Water cooler topics: In what universe is Petrino a better coach than Richt?

Yes, someone actually thinks Bobby Petrino is a better coach than Mark Richt. (Associated Press)

Yes, someone actually thinks Bobby Petrino is a better coach than Mark Richt. (Associated Press)

The water cooler’s a pretty good place to be this time of year, so here are some choice topics for those conversations around the fountain …

Paul Finebaum, the Alabama-based columnist/talk show host known for stirring the pot when he’s not genuflecting to Nick Saban, put out his annual ranking of SEC coaches. The list being topped by Saban and Urban Meyer is no surprise and certainly easily justified.

But then Finebaum gets out his ladle and lists Arkansas’ Bobby Petrino (!) third and South Carolina’s Steve Spurrier fourth, with Mark Richt in fifth place. Snipes Finebaum: “Everyone loves Mark Richt (blah, blah, blah), but can the guy coach? That’s a strong question to ask for someone with two SEC titles and a glittering résumé. However, Georgia fans have stuck their heads in the sand recently, giving Richt a blank check while blaming everyone else.”

So apparently, in Finebaum’s universe, unrealized potential (Petrino) and a past record at another school that hasn’t been repeated in his current job (Spurrier) outranks consistent winning (Richt). I mean, when an eight-win season has everyone in an uproar and wondering what’s gone wrong, you’ve obviously set the bar pretty high.

As MrSEC put it: “If we’re going on accomplishments, Richt should be #3 on this list. The only reason not to rank him there — and to put him behind Spurrier — is to stir the pot with thousands of Georgia readers and listeners.”

ISNER’S TOP 10

Former tennis Dawg John Isner appeared on CBS’ “Late Show With David Letterman” Monday night to do the Top 10 thoughts that went through his mind during the 11-hour tennis match. It was a pretty funny list, though I must say I’d bet that Nos. 10, 8 and 2 really did go through Isner’s mind during the marathon at Wimbledon.

Below is the list, and you can watch Isner present it here.

Top 10 Thoughts That Went Through John Isner’s Mind During the 11-Hour Tennis Match

10. “I’m exhausted.”

9. “We’ve been playing so long, I’ve forgotten — am I Isner or Mahut?”

8. “Remember when I said I’m exhausted? That was 8 hours ago!”

7. “Wonder if I’ll be sore tomorrow.”

6. “I’m gonna lay back until 51-50, then make my move.”

5. “I’m asleep.”

4. “Why couldn’t I have played Federer? It would have been over in 15 minutes.”

3. “Cramp!”

2. “Honestly, I don’t care if I win or lose — I just don’t want to die.”

1. “Larry King has had marriages that didn’t last this long.”

DIFFERING EXPECTATIONS

While the Orlando Sentinel was showing its true colors (orange and blue) with that ridiculous ranking of UGA at No. 64, Chris Low of ESPN.com offered a more reality-based appraisal of the Dawgs in an online chat. Asked who he thinks could have the biggest surprise season this year among SEC teams, Low answered: “Georgia, especially if the Bulldogs get steady play from redshirt freshman quarterback Aaron Murray. My prediction for the Bulldogs is 10-3, which includes winning their bowl game.”

AUTHORIZED SCALPING

So UGA has agreed to make StubHub “the Official Fan to Fan Ticket Marketplace for the University of Georgia.” I’ve never used StubHub, but I’ve got to think it’s probably more reliable than the Wild West atmosphere of Craig’s List. If you’ve ever bought or sold tickets through StubHub, I’d be interested in hearing what you think of this development.

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373 comments Add your comment

kevin

June 29th, 2010
11:10 am

Yeah, cause nothing says good coach like leaving a team before the end of the season. Petrino is superlame.

dawg doc

June 29th, 2010
11:12 am

stub hub is excellent. It guarantees the tix are authentic.

law dawg

June 29th, 2010
11:12 am

stubhub works great. I have been using it for the past few years. Best setup out there.

dap01

June 29th, 2010
11:21 am

That sports write from Alabama needs to be given a little slack, most of Alabama still does not have cable tv.

Richt is has a great winning percentage while being an ethical, STABLE, and nice head coach. Can Saban or Meyer claim all of those attributes?

EJ

June 29th, 2010
11:22 am

Why does the UGA athletic association have a deal with legal scalpers? How much is UGA making from dealing with these legal scalpers? And is StubHub getting any tickets to sell from the athletic association in order to do this legal scalping? Surely StubHub is paying for the rights to be the legal ticket scalper for UGA, what are they getting in return? Somehow the organization that controls the tickets shouldn’t be working with an organization which charges up to 10 times the amount for those tickets. If you want more money for your tickets, UGA, raise the price.

Ed

June 29th, 2010
11:24 am

Spurrier’s lucky to still have a job. You can’t live off past success at another school forever. He sure hasn’t made anyone at S. Carolina forget Lou Holtz.

Spurrier may have just been the right man in the right place at the right time at UF. Galen Hall knocked the lid off the program in the mid-80s, but he was hampered by major probation and stripped conference titles. Spurrier recognized the unbelievable talent at UF and brought the right attitude for consistent winning, but Urban Meyer has actually raised the bar and done something Spurrier could never do – outrecruit FSU and Miami.

In any event, it has been fun to see him humbled a bit.

GaDawg

June 29th, 2010
11:25 am

Based on the O.S.(Orlando S@##)the crocks should be lower. Offence unproven (at least Georgia has a veteran OL returning), defense unproven
BLA,BLA, BLA. Guess you have to consider the source

Coachdawg 2000

June 29th, 2010
11:27 am

Ignore Finebaum! He is an attention hound who is the sports talk/writer equivalent to Lady Gaga. Petrino isn’t even as successful as Houston Nutt at Arkansas and Spurrier isn’t an “Evil Genius” he just had better players! Look at what UM has done in half the time (2NC’s)!

SOGADOG

June 29th, 2010
11:30 am

Richt is clearly ahead of Petrino no doubt. But there is a valid argument to place Spurrier ahead of Richt since he has won a national championship and had a strong run at Florida. He has also beaten Richt and given him a run for his money in other games with less talent at South Carolina.

DawgInPA

June 29th, 2010
11:32 am

StubHub is a great service. Guarantees tickets are authentic, and takes Visa/MC/PayPal. Nice move by the folks in the ticket office!

Jack

June 29th, 2010
11:34 am

Are you kidding me Finebomb. The only thing Petrino is better at is being a Jack#@$#$. Finebomb needs to go back and write about something he knows like rusted cars in the front yard.

Jack

June 29th, 2010
11:35 am

SOGADOG I agree with you.

Erked Russell

June 29th, 2010
11:35 am

Paul Finebaum=Terrance Moore

SOGADOG, Say what?

June 29th, 2010
11:36 am

Run for his money? Now does that go under the W or L column?

LOL

Native Atlantan

June 29th, 2010
11:36 am

All I have to say to the Orlando and Birmingham media is “keep it up”. I love the low expectations and keeping the target on someone else.

Innocent Bystander

June 29th, 2010
11:37 am

Bill this is the best article you’ve ever written. Loved the Finebaum/Lady Gaga analogy from Coach Dawg.It really doesn’t matter who wins the Pre-Season debates. UGA and Coach RIcht have been dissed this pre-season. No doubt about it. And there’s only one way to stop that. GO Aaron Murray, go O-Line, Go 3-4,Go Dawgs!

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June 29th, 2010
11:38 am

it was petrinos nfl experience that makes him better. i know it was a short addition to his resume. it also improved saban. maybe if richt coached at a higher level it would be the difference.
just for a few games, like petrino and saban…….

Carla

June 29th, 2010
11:39 am

I would agree with Finebaum’s coaches’ ratings. It will be interesting to see if Richt will ever be able to take us to the level of Alabama or Florida.

Waitin' to see

June 29th, 2010
11:39 am

1) Well, the old ball coach does have a national title and no other coach has won at Carolina, to include Paul Dietzel. Maybe when Spurrier goes the Carolina crowd can put up 10 million and hire Saban. 2) The verdict on Petrino in the SEC has yet to be rendered. GA and Richt better not take either ARK or Carolina lightly. We all know what an easy time Richt has in Columbia.

H.I. McDunnough

June 29th, 2010
11:40 am

Seriously, why do people continue to put any stock into what this radio shock jock from Birmingham thinks? My local meatcutter’s ranking of coaches is just as relevent and newsworthy.

Jack

June 29th, 2010
11:41 am

Carla seriously?????????????????

HOUDAWG

June 29th, 2010
11:44 am

Finebaum is a moron ……… Petrino ranks around 7th or 8th in most folks opinion. He’s accomplished jack-squat in the SEC & is a dillweed to boot !

Barnacle Bill Bavasi

June 29th, 2010
11:45 am

I used to live in Birmingham and listened to Finebaum on the radio. One day he was picking apart an Alabama college basketball coach, when that coach’s wife called in, crying. He backpedaled for just a minute, but then once he’d recovered proceeded to pull her wings off. He is truly Satan’s disciple.

Jack

June 29th, 2010
11:45 am

How could parents honestly want Petrino to be their son’s coach after what he did with the Falcons.

tim

June 29th, 2010
11:46 am

the Orlando Sentinel was wrong to say UGA was # 64…….the puppies are at least 26 or 27th in the nation, now and at the end of the season with 8 wins. Puppies will get beaten by UF ofcourse but also mark up USC, Ark, Miss State, and Tech…probably Auburn as well…face it you middle of the pack teams couls all be 6 and 6….BTW keep cmr he’s the best thing that ever happened for the Gators..give him a long contract extension

Delbert D.

June 29th, 2010
11:47 am

Maybe that’s Finebaum’s perception of actual coaching vs. being a CEO.

Nachos

June 29th, 2010
11:49 am

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Saban is number 1….. losers

y

June 29th, 2010
11:52 am

Wow people in Arkansas and Florida dont care much for our football team. Why should they? They were 8-5 last year and no better until they prove it on the field.

Crackheads

June 29th, 2010
11:52 am

<——- That is what these writers are.

1eyedJack

June 29th, 2010
11:53 am

Puketrio is a scumbag.

joe

June 29th, 2010
11:53 am

all starts at SC…if the pups lose, a 5 loss season looms large…if they win, perhaps they go 10-3.

Jack

June 29th, 2010
11:54 am

Sorry Nachos Saban is the one that whines. 2 reasons.

1. He complains that all his oppnents have a bye week when they play them. If Alabama is truly the best then they should want to play them whenever wherever

2. You refuse to play Ga Tech but you will play Ga State at the very end of your schedule because UA is afraid to put real competition on the field before you play Aubrn. FYI, If you did not realize it GSU is in their first year.

Mikey in SAV

June 29th, 2010
11:57 am

I would rank Bobby Johnson ahead of Petrino.
Bobby has done more with less than anyone could ever hope for.
Finebum = idiot

Mikey in SAV

June 29th, 2010
11:58 am

Even Les Miles ahead of Petrino.
Finebum = moron

Mikey in SAV

June 29th, 2010
12:00 pm

Petrino = 13-12 and 5-11 in SEC.
Yeah, that guy can coach…is he still there? THAT is the most remarkable thing with him. He actually has made it 25 games!!!

Finebum = moron

uga_b

June 29th, 2010
12:02 pm

You can keep Petrino, Arkansas. Thank you!

Murray County Mystic

June 29th, 2010
12:02 pm

Finebaum is absolutely correct; don’t know why UGA hasn’t run CMR yet…little respect in the SEC, no respect nationally. But, UGA is huge in Calhoun and Dalton….ha ha ha ha ha ha….who cares…

Steve

June 29th, 2010
12:03 pm

This is Spurrier’s year at SC – if not, he needs to retire. Lot’s of speed and experience on both sides of the ball. Petrino is a great coach, and he sets his schedule up to win championships – just like UF, ‘Bama, and the rest. Damon Evans, listen up, make UGA a national brand by scheduling patsies like the rest of our competition – not by making Richt do the Bataan death march every year, then complaining about 5 losses.

Richt is a gamer. He overcame the no recruiting of OL by his former OC. He is overcoming his own weaknesses at penalties, turnovers and not being deep enough on the OL that he learned at FSU. He’s got a shot to be better than Saban or Meyer – we’ll see, time will tell.

Steve

June 29th, 2010
12:08 pm

P.S. If we win this year, OL is the main reason, Murray is the second, and Grantham will be the 3rd. But I don’t see us winning big with a totally new defense – 3 years out on D. But the OL may dominate games. They are that good, unlike the much hyped OL’s of the last 2 seasons.

JB

June 29th, 2010
12:17 pm

I’m a true life long Dawg fan and I think Mark has got us to a place where we haven’t been in a while( excluding last two years), And I think he’s a better coach than Petrino………but……….Mark does things with our program than involve more than football, and that’s a quality of life for ALL of his , familyand players, and to some Georgia folks, that approach has caused some things to be left on the table.
We get hammered by the hater’s on here, ” we’ll , if ya’ll are happy being 9-3 and going to a nice bowl” blah blah blah……” We fire coach’s over here or down here with those results, blah blah blah.

Are we happy? I really don’t think Saban or Meyer would have kept Martinez after the 2008 meltdown. Mark put Willie and his family before the University of Georgia football team. That’s OK if we’re happy……because a stable, level, above average program is what we have. If you’re happy, then all is well.

JB

June 29th, 2010
12:18 pm

That’s ” ALL of his staff, family and players”

How2fish

June 29th, 2010
12:22 pm

Murray County Mystic you really a moron or do you just play one on TV? If CMR had no respect in the SEC these UGA blogs wouldn’t be slap full of Bugs,Bama and Gator fans..there would be more UT fans but there are only so many computers available in the Tenn Public Library System for use by the Coon Dog Nation…and for the record you care.

Lenny

June 29th, 2010
12:22 pm

Mr. Finebaum is a provocateur and I’m sorry Mr. King brought his crimson-laced drivel across the state line into Georgia.

Bama fan

June 29th, 2010
12:26 pm

dap01

June 29th, 2010
11:21 am
“That sports write from Alabama needs to be given a little slack, most of Alabama still does not have cable tv.”

“Richt is has a great winning percentage while being an ethical, STABLE, and nice head coach. Can Saban or Meyer claim all of those attributes?”

You’re right dap01. We don’t have cable yet in Bama. Just like I don’t have a laptop or the internet either do we?

So Richt is ethical, stable and nice? Can you show me where Saban or Meyer are unethical, unstable, or not nice? Do you know the 2 men personally? Does taking a job promotion such as from Utah to Florida mean you’re unstable?

How2fish

June 29th, 2010
12:27 pm

JB you hit the nail on the head. CMR is as much about the life experience of his players and coaches as he is about winning and he averages 10 wins a year. And JB the haters all say if your happy with 9-3 blah blah we fire coaches that go 9-3…really who did that? Except for Bama running off Stallings but that was more about upcoming probation than wins/losses.

OL is the key

June 29th, 2010
12:27 pm

Our O line needs to be nasty and rugged and bring it every game with toughness and more attituude like we are gonna grind it out all day, all night and all the next day, if need be.

This can allow Murray go to run the show and stay calm and controlled. The several backs that UGA has can move the chains and with a few quick flicks of his wrist, Murray can torch some teams. I also see him as the season wears one, rolling our and throwing on the move. It believe that is his game and with our tons of really good to great wide outs and the three tight ends and two excellent fullbacks, it ought to be successful.

D need to show a new found tough attitude and show that they mean it with rugged play in every game and get turn overs like never before.

UGA really needs to be different this year.

WayDog

June 29th, 2010
12:28 pm

The only think Petrino is better at than Richt is screwing people, being dishonest, and putting himself above all else.

bruce mac

June 29th, 2010
12:31 pm

Jack, Tech called and cancelled, did you not read the press release? Bama has no fear of a weak ACC opponent. Are you kidding, they beat Clemson and VPI like red headed step children. They would beat Tech by 5 or 6 touchdowns and pull the first string by half time. Wishbone, my azz.

Guess Who

June 29th, 2010
12:31 pm

FINEBAUM FOR GOVERNOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!