What would SEC expansion mean for UGA?

What might SEC expansion mean to the Georgia-Auburn rivalry? (Associated Press)

What might SEC expansion mean to the Georgia-Auburn rivalry? (Associated Press)

It’s like following a soap opera: Will the Aggies follow Texas wherever it goes or step out of the Longhorns’ shadow? Might Virginia Tech be lured away from the ACC? Does a mega conference deserve two BCS bids?

Amid all the cliffhanger scenarios, impassioned debates and wild speculation about what will happen in the current conference realignment upheaval, there’s a more pertinent question for the Bulldog Nation: What would an expanded SEC mean for UGA?

Or, more particularly, what would a 16-team mega SEC mean for the Dogs?

Probably a scheduling nightmare, for starters. Mark Richt has gone on record as saying his main concern is that the SEC not add an additional conference game to the eight already played, and he’s probably not alone among conference coaches in feeling that way.

If the SEC winds up as a 16-team league, that most likely means two eight-team divisions. If you play every other team in your division every year, as is now the case, and you stick to eight conference games, that leaves only one team per year from the other division. If you up it to nine conference games per year, Georgia still would only be playing two teams from the SEC West.

How would rotating the teams from the other division work, and how would this impact longtime cross-division rivalries? Currently SEC schools each have one permanent opponent from the other division. Georgia’s is Auburn. What would happen to the Deep South’s oldest football rivalry in a 16-team league?

Of course, there probably would have to be a realignment of the divisions, especially if any of the Texas or Oklahoma schools came into the conference. Might Auburn move to the SEC East? That at least would maintain the rivalry with UGA. What about Alabama, would it make sense to have them and Florida and Georgia in the same division? And what if Florida State comes in? Do you keep both Sunshine State schools in the East?

How would you feel about Georgia winding up in the SEC West?

Also, assuming that the SEC lands some big-name teams and doesn’t have to resort to adding lesser programs just to reach the 16-team level — Louisville, anyone? — you’ve got to figure it will be tougher for Georgia (and everyone else in the conference) to get to the championship game.

No wonder a lot of of SEC fans wish someone would press the reset button and this whole mega-conference idea would just go away. Unfortunately, with big-bucks TV deals behind all of this, that’s not going to happen.

So what are your thoughts (and hopes and fears) about Georgia’s place in a new-look SEC?

167 comments Add your comment

Spike

June 11th, 2010
11:16 am

I won’t say “First!”.

Spike

June 11th, 2010
11:19 am

Seriously, I think the SEC is just fine as is. We are the best and toughest football conference in the nation. This “ain’t braggin’”, it is just an undeniable fact. These other teams being mentioned need us more than we need them.

JBD

June 11th, 2010
11:22 am

Why is all of this even happening? Someone please explain to me. I’ve always lived by the idea that “if it’s not broken and everyone is happy, don’t fix it!”

JBD

June 11th, 2010
11:25 am

I guess a better questions is, “how did all of this talk of the mega conference even begin?” Who was unhappy with its conference that started all of this trouble?

bitter DAWG

June 11th, 2010
11:29 am

bitter DAWG

June 11th, 2010
11:29 am

UPDATE , 5TH

Not Saint Simons

June 11th, 2010
11:31 am

well, first let me say 30-24 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

second – i HATE the idea of 2 BCS bowls going automatically to a mega conference. the main draw the idea of 16 team conferences has for me is the idea that if there are 8 mega conferences, there are spots for 128 teams. With the winners of those 8 conferences going to the 4 BCS bowls, those plus a “plus-1″ means we have an almost legitimate national championship.

Kevin

June 11th, 2010
11:33 am

Add A&M to the West and FSU or VTech to the East and be done with it. A 14 team conference is not as chaotic.

bitter DAWG

June 11th, 2010
11:35 am

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bitter DAWG

June 11th, 2010
11:36 am

UPDATE TOP GROUP SEC NORTH

Bitter Kevin Butler

June 11th, 2010
11:39 am

give me 1 more year for the dogs and i will kick michael adams a–ss through the uprights

Mike

June 11th, 2010
11:39 am

You mean to say Ga wouldnt sacrifice a game against Louianna-Lafeyette or Idaho State to play another in conference game? Come on Man! I’m a UT fan and I am totally embarrassed at the fact we open the season against Tennessee-Martin. The Vols are gonna be mediocre at best this year, but I would much prefer a tail kickin by an SEC school instead of playing a team that the Fraternity flag football groups should beat. If the SEC expands to 16, one more “in division” game will work. Move the total conference games to 10. That leaves two games out of conference. Plenty of opportunity for a rivalry game (like GA-GA Tech) and a cupcake homecoming game. Not sure if the gators would give up their annual division II game though.

RxDawg

June 11th, 2010
11:41 am

I hope we don’t expand. We have a great thing going as it is and most conferences are just trying to keep up.

VT2SEC

June 11th, 2010
11:44 am

Enter your comments here

Chris

June 11th, 2010
11:44 am

The SEC should add the Aggies and Fl State. That gives us 1 more team on each side. We can eliminate the permenate rival from east/west and move them into the east/west rotation game.

If we do move to 16 teams, we should also add GA Tech and TX.

Bryan

June 11th, 2010
11:45 am

Is the author of this article, or SEC fans in general, aware there are other sports than Football. Louisville would be a “lesser program”? Louisville, if it joined, would immediately have the second bet b-ball program in the SEC after Kentucky. but I guess their 2 national championships and EIGHT FINAL FOURS are not on par with the great achievements of Miss. St. Ole miss, Vandy, and the like

I-DOG

June 11th, 2010
11:46 am

JBD.

The one word answer is MONEY!

Example: Colorado, the first team to move (officially) currently generates $8 Million annually from football and this is projected to go up to $22 Million annually once they start playing in the new Pac 12 or 16.

bill lumberg

June 11th, 2010
11:48 am

I agree with Mike. UGA would simply need to drop the cupcakes. As would Florida.

Kevin makes a great point—add 2 teams and be done with it.

Mike Slive will keep the SEC value-added by offering two spots.

Look for invitations to Texas A&M, possibly Missouri or Baylor (they are not the sexy pick but gives A&M a close rival, keeps the Tex politicos happy) or a wild-card such as Va. Tech (if they can cut ties with UVa)

Spike

June 11th, 2010
11:51 am

Mike.. Hard to argue with your point. It makes sense to me, if the SEC expands.

MooreUGA

June 11th, 2010
11:57 am

Oh come on, Mike! Sure we are playing LA-Lafayette this season but let’s not act like UGA has played a pansy schedule lately.

As far as expansion, if we have to add anybody, I’d go for Texas A&M for the west and Clemson for the East. Clemson just has an SEC feel and established rivalries.

East Cobb Hokie

June 11th, 2010
11:58 am

Understand from Richmond media and state of Virginia (meaning that internal state political contacts have been made by VT to cover bases after 2003 ACC debacle) that SEC has told VT that if VT applied for SEC membership, VT would be accepted. Also was told that SEC would not extend an invite and be rejected. But VT AD Jim Weaver told SEC we are happy in the ACC ……for now. Lots of integrity at SEC and VT being displayed. Shame on the B12>11>10>? and their universities couldn’t do the same.

VT2SEC

June 11th, 2010
12:00 pm

VT has been only bright spot for ACC post expansion….ACC teams/fans still view VT as outsider that had to use the Gov to get the votes for an invite….I hope the SEC offers VT and VT bolts for the SEC. May not win as many football games, but would be a good fit for SEC.

bill lumberg

June 11th, 2010
12:02 pm

Clemson brings nothing to the table.

jaglaw

June 11th, 2010
12:10 pm

the sec has been very successful, as has the big 10. If these other schools have had time to sit back and figure a way to become “powerful” we (sec) should take note. what if, in 5 years, these mega conferences are dominating the financial side of things and the NC? What would the sec do then? Would there be any big schools left if we chose to wait and see how this expansion shakes out.? By then, it may be too late.

The SEC is as strong as has ever been, dont think that this expansion is in many ways to break up the financial strangle hold the sec and b-10 has on college football. Just saying. Dont under estimate the risk in doing nothing.

Headlines: 2015, “Would the SEC have expanded if they new then, what they now now”

Mett's fake ID

June 11th, 2010
12:14 pm

Don’t worry about VT feeling bad about cutting ties with UVA. The Hokies and Cavs were in two different conferences for a long time until the ACC expansion came around.

In fact, the Guv forced the Cavs to demand Tech’s invite to the ACC. The conference was originally just going to take Miami, Syracuse, and BC.

I don’t think Tech would have qualms about taking more money from the SEC. Same goes for A&M whose athletic department is 16 million in debt

Spike

June 11th, 2010
12:21 pm

I don’t get the attraction to Texas A&M. Why are they being considered?

Ed

June 11th, 2010
12:32 pm

The SEC does not need to expand just because everyone else is doing it. Back in the old days, the fact that the SEC, Pac 10, and Big 10 had ten teams each didn’t hurt the Big 8 or SWC (eight each). The SEC would remain powerful and highly marketable as a 12-team league.

The Situation

June 11th, 2010
12:33 pm

If Texas, OU, etc come to the SEC it also means that the SEC championship game would also at least rotate out of Atlanta. You know they would want something played in the new billion dollar Dallas Stadium.

oledawg

June 11th, 2010
12:38 pm

Everyone was dancing around the 800lb gorilla and Spike points it out. A&M doesn’t bring the big Texas market except when they play Texas. There ain’t that many cadets out there, folks.

Ask ND and Texas if they are interested to join. If they ain’t, then screw’em.

robodawg

June 11th, 2010
12:41 pm

The SEC has got to preserve the traditional annual rivalries. That’s where the SEC got it (mostly) right when we went to 12 teams, and where the Big 12 really screwed up. But, it would probably require adding a conference game.

If there is a national move to superconferences, it will require more conference games for everyone and put a damper on interconference play.

Dawg 39

June 11th, 2010
12:44 pm

Geography, rivalry games, & border wars (including recruiting) have made the SEC the best conference in the nation. Keep it like it is if possible.
I still believe that SEC fans would be more interested in the scores & highlights from teams such as Tech, Clemson, & FSU than TA&M or VT. There are a lot of Ga. players at those 3 schools. Tech would have instant rivalry games with Vandy & Auburn. Clemson & FSU with the Dawgs..
If we have to expand, keep it in the family (geographically), and keep the the rivalry games & border wars at a maximum. The SE is a hotbed for college football. Keep it that way.

skip

June 11th, 2010
12:53 pm

the best plan, (considering plans that have some possibility of happening) is for Tex AM, Ok state, Kan and Kan state. you pick up the Texas markets, the Oklahoma kansas markets and part of Missouri. Kansas adds basketball clout to our league.

#1 BAMA FAN

June 11th, 2010
12:54 pm

If teams like Texas and Oklahoma want to join fine….if not play the cards we have and raise two dollars. I can’t wait for SEC football.RTR

HBTD

June 11th, 2010
12:55 pm

Love to see Texas, Oklahoma, Clemson and FSU join the league.

Jeff

June 11th, 2010
1:09 pm

SEC East: UGA, Florida, SC, Clemson, Tenn, Fla St. Vandy, KY
SEC West: Bama, AuBarn, LSU, Missy, Missy St, Pigs, TxAM, Tx (or OK)

SEC East: same as above- except add Aubarn (more rivalries- UGA, UF, Clemson) and send Vandy or KY to west.

#1 hater

June 11th, 2010
1:11 pm

QB recruit LeMay could misssuspension
Submitted by Marc Weiszer on Fri, 06/11/2010 – 9:34am.
The top-rated player in Georgia’s 2011 football recruiting class is facing a possible suspension from his high school of up to 30 days that could keep him out of more than half of the upcoming season.

Quarterback Christian LeMay from Butler High School in Matthews, N.C., has a Monday hearing after being accused of breaking a Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools’ code of conduct rule, according to the Charlotte Observer, which cited unnamed sources. The suspension could be for up to 30 days.

Asked about that report this morning, LeMay’s mother, DeNae, told the Athens Banner-Herald: “I can’t give you any further information at this time.”

LeMay, rated as the No. 2 quarterback in the nation by Scout.com and the No. 39 overall prospect, announced his intention to attend Georgia in late April.

According to the Charlotte-Mecklenberg Schools’ code of conduct, a suspension of up to 30 days can result from any of more than 20 “Tier III” infractions including fighting, threatening or intimidating behavior, assaulting a student or adult, possession of a weapon, sexual behavior on school property, gambling, vandalism or theft.

“Student records are protected by state law, and I can’t discuss it,” school spokesperson Kathleen Johansen said. “In general, when a student has violated the student code of conduct, they are disciplined accordingly, and that’s all we can say. I can’t tell you what they did, I can’t tell you the length of the suspension.”

Students that are suspended can not practice or play with their school teams. They can attend different alternative programs until they return to school.

LeMay passed for 3,296 yards with 44 touchdowns and two interceptions while completing 68.5 percent of his passes last season for Butler en route to the North Carolina 4AA state championship.

TOLD ALL OF YOU HUMPERS HE WAS A ME PLAYER. ANOTHER RICHT RECRUIT THAT NEEDS INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO BE A SUCCESSFUL MAN.

Kyle

June 11th, 2010
1:15 pm

East: Dawgs, Lizzards, chickens, red necks, Hilbillies, Free Shoes, Vandy and KY
West: Blama, barnyard Birds, Missy and their sister ST, Piggies, LSWho, both cows from Texas.

Kent

June 11th, 2010
1:18 pm

Move Carolina and UT to the west and Missy St and Missy to the east and call the west: The Barnyard

JB

June 11th, 2010
1:24 pm

I’ll tell you why this is happening………..because of the SEC……Big money, bright lights, prime time and all the rage. Everyone else is looking up. they want what we got…….to be the biggest, best, most respected conference in NCAA football.

northgadawg

June 11th, 2010
1:29 pm

The sec should not expand everyone is talkn about the mega conferance where the sec should make an elite conference boot out the week bring in the strong get rid of kentucky vandy miss st bring in texas oklahoma florida st quality not quantity

Bluegrass Boy

June 11th, 2010
1:32 pm

We need to keep any expansion inside the borders. I disagree with Bryan, football is the moneytrain sport thus making it the most important sport around, Louisville has no business in the SEC…

GT, Clemson, FL State, and one other

Mike

June 11th, 2010
1:37 pm

MoreUGA, I wasn’t saying UGA has a pansy schedule. My point was that UGA, along with my Vols, the Gators, and every other SEC school will schedule at least 2 non-conference games that are less than SEC standard. Losing one of those games with lesser quality to add an extra conference game will not hurt any of the programs. The fans would, most likely, enjoy better games as well.

GeezusDawg

June 11th, 2010
1:38 pm

Keep all charter members of the SEC – boot SC and Ark and start over from there.

Will

June 11th, 2010
1:38 pm

Slive needs to understand something. If he adds a Texas, Texas A & M, Oklahoma, Clemson, etc. There will not be an SEC team in the BCSNC for several years. All of teams schedules will be too tough and the conference winner will probably have at least 2 losses per season. I mean if the SEC East has UGA, UF, Bama, Tenn, Auburn, UK and Vandy on one side how in the hell do you expect anyone to be undefeated or even have 1 loss for that matter? If Slive in not careful the SEC could be hurt by expansion. I would stand still this year and see how all of this plays out. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

dawgs01

June 11th, 2010
1:39 pm

Its all about money. One reason the SEC is so good is bc of our revenue plus we live in the South where the best high school football is played. If the Pac 10 gets 16 and TX and OK are included they will be bringing in more money than us and so would the Big 10. We make alot of money now which gives us the best facilities and best coaches whcih helps alot in recruiting. If we stay at 12 while the PAC 10 and Big 10 expand to 16 we will get left behind just as the Pac 10 and Big 10 did by not adding a championship game when the SEC did. I hate expansion it is killing regional pride but if other do we will have to just to keep up. Look if the Pac 10 adds the Big 12 south they should call themselves HALF OF AMERICA CONFERENCE or 3 TIME ZONES CONFERENCE i just hope we keep it in the South and dont bring in any yankee teams.

Camden Mark

June 11th, 2010
1:41 pm

Don’t like it,don’t like it,don’t like it.Just leave it alone.
Only two teams I see that might fit(if forced to pick)are Clemson and Va Tech.

Ed

June 11th, 2010
1:48 pm

The SEC is already a super-conference, leave it alone.

Just saw that Boise St. bolted to the MWC. The MWC should go for its own super-conference and try to pick up Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor. Not exactly a glamour conference, but add those schools to existing members like Boise State, Utah, BYU and TCU and you have a conference that has a more legitimate claim to BCS status than does the Big East.

Jeremy Foley

June 11th, 2010
1:50 pm

FSU will join the SEC over my dead and rotting carcass. I’m too powerful to allow this to happen.

Whopper Dawg

June 11th, 2010
2:06 pm

It is all about TV sets. If the Pac 10 and Big 10 pulls off what they desire they will have a huge advantage in TV revenue in short order. The SEC has to expand.

Slive needs to go hard after Texas and A&M, if Texas doesn’t want to come, go after Oklahoma. In the East go after VA Tech North Carolina.

Gatorman

June 11th, 2010
2:12 pm

If the SEC takes in Clemson and Georgia Tech, UGA won’t have the SEC to pull players away from the ACC schools. When we play them, they’ll be crying like sheep going to the slaughter, oh yeah they do that now.

BuLLDawg full of crap

June 11th, 2010
2:14 pm

Dang another Jawga recruit with issues. LMAO. Ole Richto doesn’t realize character is a component of success. But when your desperate to fill another gimmick–see Dream Team–you continue to show your a substandard coach.

Colorado Dawg

June 11th, 2010
2:39 pm

I’m hearing from someone in Ole Miss’ AD that the SEC has or will shortly extend invitations to North Carolina, Duke, VT, and Texas A&M. Has anyone else heard anything about this??

droopydawg

June 11th, 2010
2:42 pm

We should, at most, go to 14 teams adding TX if that is possible. If not, either FSU or VT along with Tech or Clemson. I know it has no practical shot of happening, but I wish we could trade Vandy to the ACC for either Tech or Clemson and stand pat otherwise.

On a related note, I do not see why the Big 12 should crumble because they lost one of their worst teams (CO) and a team from a nothing state that hasn’t done much recently (NEB). Certainly the conference would be stronger by adding two of Utah, BYU, Boise State (in many preseason top-5s), and especially TCU. Granted none of these teams help that much in terms of TV revenue or an “expanded footprint” (who cares about UT and ID), but I find it hard to believe that losing the Omaha and Denver media markets is an earth-shatteringly big deal.

droopydawg

June 11th, 2010
2:43 pm

Hey Colorado Dawg, there is no way in hell the SEC is offering up to UNC and Duke. Also little chance of the SEC taking TAM without UT.

Colorado Dawg

June 11th, 2010
2:47 pm

It definitely surprised me a bit when I heard it. The only thing I could think of was that it would make the SEC the premier conference in both football and basketball. I’ve got no idea when it comes to A&M…

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
2:51 pm

Col Dawg-
Haven’t heard that one. Article on ESPN the other day on Slive said that, if Nebraska bolted to the bigTEN, the bigTEN would got to 16 teams in phases and the SEC would invite TX A&M, VT, FSU and GT. I’d rather have WVU or North Carolina than FSU… but who knows at this point!

Why can the bigten just add ONE team for a total of 12 and the Pac 10 add two teams and be done with it???

Next thing you know… we’ll be seeing bailouts for college football! Too big to fail! (joke)

1980 was so long ago

June 11th, 2010
2:53 pm

Will be even longer if more quality teams are added to SEC

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
3:03 pm

You know that all the “lesser teams” in the already major conferences are like: “this is just great… can we make our own league?”

East Division: Vandy, Northwestern, Duke, Indiana, Syracuse, NOTRE DAME (about the same SOS anyway…)

West Division: Baylor, Iowa State, Washington State, Missippi State and either of the Arizona schools.

like a Fox

June 11th, 2010
3:06 pm

expansion of the SEC would mean 8th place instead of 3rd !!

TidePride

June 11th, 2010
3:09 pm

If we are to expand; Texas A&M on the West with Ga Tech or Va Tech in the East would be ok. I am not a fan of expansion but I feel it will happen.

The fact is that teams could add another conf game, but the regular season should go back to 11 games. The Tide plays Ga State this year; no one wants to see that. Time to eliminate the Div 1 aa (bowl subdivision) games.

like a Fox

June 11th, 2010
3:10 pm

Texas will never come to the SEC…..

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
3:12 pm

I’m pretty sure anyone with a television set knows Texas isn’t coming b/c they can win more championships in the Pac 16/11/10 than they could in the SEC…

TX A&M on the other hand is VERY interested in joining the SEC if invited…

BEST SCENARIO

June 11th, 2010
3:16 pm

SEC should invite TX, TXAM, OK, AND OKSTATE TO WEST, MOVE ALABAMA AND AUBURN TO THE EAST, THIS CREATES A MORE ACCEPTABLE TRAVEL AND SCHEDULE FOR THE DIVISIONS. THE BEST OF ALL THE NEW SEC CHAMPIONSHIP WILL BE A MINI BCS CHAMPIONSHIP SINCE IN THE LAST 4 OR 5 YEARS, THE TEAMS IN THE NEW SEC WERE IN THE BCS CHAMPIONSHIP THEMSELVES.

17 of 20

June 11th, 2010
3:17 pm

I hope the SEC would add Florida State and Miami.

BEST SCENARIO

June 11th, 2010
3:20 pm

ADDENDUM: THE NEW SEC WEST WILL BE LIKE TO OLD BIG 12, AND THE EAST WILL BE THE ORIGINAL SEC. THAT SHOULD SELL A LOT OF TV TIME AND EXCITEMENT.

Franky Wade

June 11th, 2010
3:30 pm

Louisville is a lesser program! Does not mean that you are good in one sport that you can put down four teams from the SEC. C’mon, have you recently visited UofL? The school puts too much emphasis on its sports facilities rather than its academic structures and school grounds. If you want to be part of the SEC.. you have to have the full package! Louisville will NEVER have that SEC appeal! I sure hope you can fill up that new top tier at your football stadium!

tbone

June 11th, 2010
3:35 pm

Isn’t TA&M the only team that has shown any interest? Adding Texas as a recruiting base would be major, particularly for LSU & ARK. I do not see how adding VT or UM would benefit the SEC, even with the added TV market.
Are we getting ahead of ourselves? Not sure Texas, GT, Clemson, or FSU would accept an invitation to join the SEC.
Finally, leave it alone; it ain’t broke. But, IF we have to add 4 teams (& they agree), I would go with Texas ( they refuse), TA&M, GT, Clemson & FSU. I do not understand the anti GT theme I see here.

BEST SCENARIO

June 11th, 2010
3:45 pm

CALL THE NEW SEC —– BIG SOUTHERN CONFERENCE

BEST SCENARIO

June 11th, 2010
3:46 pm

BIG SOUTHERN CONFERENCE—– THAT SHOULD SATISFY THE BIG 12 AND SEC FANS.

Bobb Cobb

June 11th, 2010
4:03 pm

A&M would a good addition. It would bring the SEC some much needed academic credentials. It also is one of the top money generators in the country and among the winningest programs historically. Most important, it within a 3 hour radius of 3 of the largest cities and markets in the country.

NEWS FLASH

June 11th, 2010
4:14 pm

I heard that Bama would like to join the ACC. A lot of good money in future business in the ACC. Besides with Texas going to the PAC – the SEC is second best even if Slive gets 2 Miamis, 2 FSUs, or 2 Clempsons (why the SEC would want one, I don’t know). PAC-16 #1 – SEC #2 or #3 – Believe IT!

NEWS FLASH

June 11th, 2010
4:24 pm

IM DUMB AS A BRICK

meh

June 11th, 2010
4:34 pm

I say the SEC should give Arkansas to the Big 12 since they’ll need a replacement for Colorado. Then the SEC should take Clemson or UNC to fill Arkansas’ spot. And the ACC should take Rutgers or South Florida from the Big East. The Big East can pick up ECU or to fill their hole. any whatever conference ECU currently resides in is just SOL.

meh

June 11th, 2010
4:35 pm

I think Texas is scared of the SEC

John H.

June 11th, 2010
4:36 pm

***EALEY FOR HEISMAN***

Jim Doanan as in Doans Pills

June 11th, 2010
4:45 pm

Lemay Kid may be an addict for luv…..

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
4:47 pm

Anybody that says such and such a team wouldn’t go to the SEC if offered is fooling themselves… SEC = $$$

Barring a “combo deal”, like what seems to be Texas’ intent here or the state governments getting involved or it’s decided it would be easier to win championships in their current league… VT, UNC, TX A&M, GT, CLEM, FSU, WVU, Miami,(Insert team here)… would all be packing their bags for greener pastures of the SEC.

Whiskeydawg

June 11th, 2010
4:50 pm

SINCE IT’S ALL GOING TO END UP “FKD” ANYWAY, HOW ABOUT THIS:
SEC EAST: GA / FL / Faber College / Vndy/ SC /William & Mary / KY / TN
SEC WEST: ALA / AUB / Michigan State / AK / MS / MST/ Missouri Beautician Institute /LSU

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
4:58 pm

Newflash-

Pipedream.

SEC is in a position where they don’t have to do anything if they don’t want to…

If they SEC were to add any combo of VT, FSU, CLEM, GT, TX A&M, WVU, UNC, Miami… it would be a gauntlet and the SEC champion would be in the BCS every year regardless of their record. Any team in that conference would most likely play anywhere from (low end) 6-7 to (high end) 8-9 teams that would be in the Top 25, depending on schedule rotation.

The SEC winning 4 BCS titles in a row has ALOT to do with whats going on right now. SEC officials didn’t start this stuff, but if forced to react with other conferences going to 16 teams… they’ll sure as heck finish it.

Cobra41

June 11th, 2010
5:04 pm

A couple of thoughts about expansion …

1. The SEC has been the best for the last few years, but we should not plan our future by looking in the rearview mirror. Expansion must be done.

2. Population growth is to the South and West, with FL and GA leading growth in the South. Picking up enough sensible rivalries to the West are unlikely (TX, TXAM, etc.), however, Locking the ACC or any other conference out of the rapid growth states of FL,GA & SC by adding GA Tech, Clemson, FLS and Miami makes a lot of sense. All of these already have great intrastate rivalry games with SEC counterparts. The SEC should defend its growing lucrative Southeastern territory.

GaDawg

June 11th, 2010
5:12 pm

This is a MUST READ for the politics behind the mega conference concept. Basically, the Big 12 blew it!!! http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-expansion060610

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
5:29 pm

Breaking news! SEC expansion talks!
http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2010/6/10/1509040/why-sec-expansion-might-not-be

Every SEC fans will enjoy this… except maybe Auburn.

Bibble

June 11th, 2010
5:29 pm

How about this alignment for a new-look SEC:

East: Georgia, Iowa State, Florida, Florida State, Syracuse, Vandy, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, Rutgers, Kansas, Kansas State, Utah State, and Baylor

West: LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Missouri, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss. St., Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Notre Dame, Houston, West Virginia, and New Mexico State (lock up the Las Cruces, NM market)

College football could go to an 18-game schedule. Each team could play a 13-game division schedule and add 4 games from the other division each year, on a rotating basis. That would leave one game a year for a non-conference rival, a directional school, or a I-AA patsy.

A conference championship game could then be played, and the winner gets a birth in the national semifinals against the survivor of the Big 22, or Pac 20, or the (Really) Big East Conference. The winners of the two semifinals could then advance to the Progressive Insurance National Championship Game co-sponsored by UPS in late February in the New Meadowlands stadium, where it is hoped that, despite the horrible NY-area weather, the game will attract a lot of local interest among TV viewers in the New York – Jersey market.

Although the eventual champion would have to play a 21-game schedule, the danger of losing half your team to injuries could be mitigated by allowing roster sizes to expand to 150 and each team could sign 40 players on signing day. That would allow teams like Florida, Texas and USC to have 5-star recruits throughout their 3-deep charts. Besides, losing 2 or 3 games would be irrelevant, as no one could argue the merits of say an 18-3 Alabama team taking the crown after it defeated a 17-4 USC team for all the marbles, even if a 20-0 Utah or TCU team gets snubbed from time to time.

Oldtimers would then be nostalgic for ‘07, when a two-loss LSU team took a make-believe title.

I mean, if we are going to go big, then let’s go big.

Standing on the sidelines

June 11th, 2010
5:32 pm

Unless Richt can figure out a way to beat Urban, it won’t make any difference.

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
5:37 pm

Dave In Tampa

June 11th, 2010
5:41 pm

Awesome! Bring on OU and A&M. That would be all that the SEC would need to do. This way the ACC stays in tact as well.

Bibble

June 11th, 2010
5:42 pm

Oklahoma to the SEC (probably the East division). In today’s environment, makes perfect sense. About as much sense as Oklahoma in the Pac 10. Who doesn’t think of the Pacific Ocean when conjuring up images of Norman, Oklahoma?

The Braves once played in the NL West, so in sports, absolutely anything is possible.

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
5:48 pm

Urban had one of the best COLLEGE players of all-time for 4 years… let’s see what he does now after losing pretty much everyone. Don’t crown his butt just yet, success comes and goes…

He’s a great coach, not exactly my favorite and he’ll still be successful… but it’s very hard to maintain that kind’ve success he’s had over the last few years… unless you pull a USC… and even I don’t think Urban is as bad as Pete “cut-n-run” Carroll, who was SHOCKED by the NCAA ruling the other day… just SHOCKED.

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
5:53 pm

If the BigTen and Pac10 go to 16 teams… and the SEC adds OU and A&m, i’d like to see VT and either WVU or UNC come to the SEC as well.

FSU turned down the SEC once, Miami… nuff said and GT/Clemson… they’d be okay. Just not on par with VT’s program.

Sam Robards, Dawg Fan

June 11th, 2010
6:16 pm

First of all, I don’t think the SEC needs to expand UNLESS an unfair advantage is given to 16-team conferences (2 AUTOMATIC BCS slots). If they give the 16-team conferences that unfair advantage, then the SEC has to get on the offensive

But NOT at the expense of the UGA/Auburn rivalry. Move ‘em to the SEC East, keep ‘em as our cross-division rival, whatever. UGA MUST play Auburn year-in and year-out.

Now that that’s outta the way, who would I add if/when the SEC expands?
-If we only add two teams: Texas A&M and VA Tech.
Both add new markets (expecially A&M) and both fit culturally with the SEC (the Bear coached
at A&M, too, if I recall correctly). Also, who wouldn’t wanna see a Tennessee/Va Tech game
in Bristol with 150,000 fans? That’d be great.
-If we add four teams: Texas A&M, VA Tech, Oklahoma and Clemson. Oklahoma, while not part
of huge tv markets, recruits HEAVILY from TEXAS, which would open that area up to SEC teams
playing in Norman (besides, my best friend is a Sooner [They're my 3rd fave since I was born in
Lawton, OK], and I’d love to have bragging rights over him). As for Clemson, they wouldn’t open
new markets, either, but they’re such a good cultural fit with the SEC, and I want the
UGA/Clemson rivalry resumed.

Now, for those saying, “But Texas A&M? What have they done lately?” Not much, admittedly, but if they could say they were an SEC school, you can bet they’d be a HELLUVA lot more competitive on the recruiting trail against Texas, TTU, etc., and they’d be back in prime shape before you know it. Also, A&M has history with a couple SEC schools (Arkansas and LSU), so the shoe fits. Their geography also isn’t completely outta the way to schools in the SEC West (except for Auburn and maybe ‘Bama, but that’s why they have airplanes).

“Why not Texas,” you ask? Well, for one, Texas has no interest in the SEC, unlike A&M. And two, Texas wants to be the boss, which wouldn’t (and SHOULDN’T) happen in the SEC.

Who else shouldn’t be in the SEC?

Georgia Tech

Not only are they NOT a cultural fit in the conference, they also burned their SEC bridges when they left in ‘64. For those who try to point out Vandy as a cultural mis-match, Vandy was a founding member that DIDN’T bail on the conference in a p!ssing match with Bear Bryant and is immune from said argument, in my humble opinion.

But, to reiterate, I don’t think the SEC should expand unless not doing so puts it at a direct disadvantage in relation to 16-team conferences. Though I wouldn’t mind staying at 12 teams, dropping South Carolina and picking up Clemson … oh, the possibilities…

Cobra41

June 11th, 2010
6:33 pm

All talk about “kicking out” or “dropping” a conference member is pure idiot-talk.

GaDawg

June 11th, 2010
6:45 pm

I’m thinking it will be OU, and aTm in the West, as for the East, IF we can get VT, what other eastern school would be a real “value added” candidate for the SEC? By “value added”, I’m referring to a school who is financially strong, and will increase our TV footprint the most.

andrew

June 11th, 2010
6:49 pm

Three 6 team divisions: SEC West: Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Texas Tech; SEC Central: LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St., Auburn, Alabama, UK, SEC East: UGA, Tenn, UF, USC, Vandy, Clemson

Psycho Analyst

June 11th, 2010
6:55 pm

You are a sick dude, Bibble.

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
7:02 pm

GaDawg-

What do you think about adding VT and UNC to the EAST in your scenario?

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
7:05 pm

Oh crap… nevermind this expansion stuff…

The SEC just merged with the NFL…

Pac10 and Big10, knock yourselves out.

GTax

June 11th, 2010
7:28 pm

If the Pac-16 comes to fruition adding Texas, TT, TAMU, Ok St., and OK, which it looks like it might just do on Tuesday, you can forget the SEC being the dominant conference.

If the SEC wants to remain dominant they too will have to expand to keep up the Pac-16 and possibly the Big-16.

GaDawg

June 11th, 2010
7:38 pm

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
7:02 pm
I’ ve thought about UNC, but from what I have read they would probably have to be a package deal. I am not sure that they would increase the TV viewing footprint. Do you know if we are already in the NC area?

GaDawg

June 11th, 2010
8:12 pm

I just learned that the SEC-TV Network footprint includes only the nine states where the member institutions are located. The addition of VT, UNC,OU, and A&M would increase that footprint to a thirteen state area. I’m not yet sure about ESPN, CBS etc.

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Joe Mac

June 11th, 2010
8:28 pm

my thoughts are simple. No matter what happens, GET BETTER & HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS. I’m sick and tired of Richt’s scheduling remarks. Freakin get better and play ball.

I hope expansion happens and I wish like heck it’d be Texas, A&M, Ok., & Ok. St. And they move Bama & Auburn over. It won’t, but that’s my desire.

GET BETTER and be a big boy about it!

Customary Fact Checker

June 11th, 2010
8:31 pm

Interesting….UGA could and would not want to be in the West with the powers there.

Here is what the SEC will look like with 16 Teams:

East

UGA
Florida
Tennessee
S.C
Kentucky
**Clemson
** Miami
** GT

West

Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Miss.St.
Ole Miss
Arkansas
*Vanderbilt
** Florida State

You can bank on these and this alignment.

The SEC will not miss out on FSU and Miami(large Television Market)
GT is the Atlanta market, and Clemson will be the only one that might just might be replaced with Virginia Tech..but doubtful…Clemson makes a very good package…with great logistics…

What do you call a team without a QB?

June 11th, 2010
9:03 pm

Mr Bill, whatcha’ think about Lemay?

Customary Fact Checker

June 11th, 2010
9:05 pm

What do you call a team without a QB…

Wild Hog?….and a team that is required to run the ball for 80 plays a game…otherwise…..a losing program….

chris byard

June 11th, 2010
9:39 pm

this is a logistical “mega-nightmare.” first, let me state, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. then i have to say, leave the best conference in the land as is. if the pac 10 grows to 14 or 16 teams, it wont bother me. if the big ten has 15 member schools, i wont care. if the big twelve, wait….. 11,.wait….10, drops to the big(but not) 4, so be it. but wilth all the possible bcs bid ramifications aside, a 12 school sec(12 is 2 too many in my opinion(simply the number, dont infer reference to any schools)) is good the way it is. the sec does not need expansion. period. GOOOO DAWGS! SIC EM, WOOF,WOOF,WOOF,WOOF,WOOF!!!

Cap

June 11th, 2010
9:54 pm

Not sure why Bill King would be down on Louisville. The SEC doesn’t have the academic standards for institutions like the ACC. Louisville would be another mediocre football team like Kentucky but like Duke does for the ACC, Louisville and UK would actually make the SEC national contenders in basketball.

The SEC should go after West Virginia. WVU, Va Tech, Kentucky, and Tennessee have always belonged in the same conference (Appalachian Division?). I don’t think the SEC can get Va Tech though. Contrary to popular belief, Va Tech does not deliver the Washington DC market. There is no more presence of Va Tech in DC than Maryland, UVa, or WVU. Also, why would VaTech leave the ACC where they are a powerhouse to have to scrap in the same division with Georgia and Florida just for the right to play in the SEC Championship game?

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
10:19 pm

GTax-

There are a lot of rumorS (with links, I posted one of them) that might delay the announcement on Tuesday. Some or most of the Big12 South might go with Texas but TX A&M is a big hangup in the process. Apparently an OU coach has said OU is looking at the SEC (link above). To think the Pac 16 is signed and in the mail is a little premature at this point with all these other stories floating around.

If the SEC decides to expand, there will be teams waiting in line for offers to join the conference…

I dont like the 16 team idea and don’t understand the obsession with it… championships will be less for many, traditions/rivalries will suffer and the “wholesome” appeal of college athletics will be smashed by the almight dollar sign.

Big10 has 12. Pac10 go get up to 12 teams. Big 12 add TCU and another university… and everyone should be happy. Everything about college football i’ve come to know in my 27 years will disappear overnight with this expansion idea. Sad really.

tckr83

June 11th, 2010
10:28 pm

Fact checker-

Well lets see here… Nashville is 200 some odd miles WEST of Athens so…

col fot

June 11th, 2010
10:35 pm

UGA would still be a @ss kicking machine!!!

Customary Fact Checker

June 11th, 2010
10:50 pm

Just some pre-pre discussions on if, how, who, where, and why by the SEC Executive Committee. The first gestures were sent to prospective schools last week. The SEC really does not want to expand, however the economic pressures are the only reasons, and CBS, ESPN have had some conversations on how the expansion will increase the revenue for EACH school has taken place.
There is a core group that want FSU, MIAMI, CLEMSON, and GT. There is a second group that entertain the idea of growing the Basketball side of it, they want 18 to 20 teams with Divisions and Sub Divisions while bringing in N.C, DUKE, VIRGINIA, N.C. State along with the FSU, MIAMI, GT, CLEMSON schools. The talks are on going and now Texas A&M is throwing a monkey wrench into the pot, they want to get out of the TEXAS machine and all about TEXAS Attitude. The executive committee with the SEC is really chummy with some Texas A&M leadership….so it may add some flavor to some of the discussions.

The best thing TEXAS could do would to be start a Texas Conference, allow each school to add supplemental media contracts to a new Conference Televsion Network, the network would show High school events and championships and provide the recruiting edge that will keep those prospects in Texas. The A&M’s, Tech, TCU, U of Houston, Baylors are really tired of UT and their demands…..so I guess we will see.

PeachJam

June 11th, 2010
10:51 pm

Let’s keep it at 12 teams and let the Pac 16 implode.

DavidSDawg

June 11th, 2010
11:05 pm

I’l Take Tx A&M in the West and first dibs to GT in the East (Georgia homer thing) then FSU, then Clem & Son. We got GTU anyway, so ClemPson would be a good fit for Dawg fans and SC if the Mustard Nation Gnats were a no go.I’;d probably take Clemson over FSU in reality UF may be too in the way. I do not like the idea of UGA moving into the West.Nor do I like the idea of Bama in the East. Send Vanderbilt or Tennessee over there. Lets just trade Auburn for Tennessee since Bama and the Vols are like UGA and Auburn.No to the Sooner Nation and the Cow Pokes. Va Tech, again NO. I really do not care to see Va Tech anywhere, I’l turn the channel not to watch them.

Ok, My SEC would be : 16 team structure
West (Central TZ) East (Eastern TZ)
Alabama Georgia
Auburn Georgia Tech
Mississippi Florida
Miss State Florida State
LSU Clemson
Arkansas South Carolina
Texas A&M Tennessee
Vanderbilt Kentucky
14 team structure: drop two ACC additions probably FSU, Clemson
I prefer our in state rival to be in conference. If GT moved in we could pick up Clemson as a permanent Out of Conference opponent or keep the status quo with GT if Clem & Sons moved in.
As A Dawg Fan, some how in this I’d like to see the Georgia-Clemson Game resurrected as an annual tilt.
Go Dawgs, GATA

DavidSDawg

June 11th, 2010
11:09 pm

Well that list was botched
West, Central Time Zone
Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Missy State, LSU, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Tx A&M

East Eastern Time Zone
UGA, GT, Clem and his Sons, South Carolina, Florida, FSU, Tennessee, Kentucky

Dawg 39

June 11th, 2010
11:23 pm

If absolutely necessary to expand: I like TA&M for the west & anyone mentioned but VT for the east. Outside of a new tv market which is not needed for continued SEC success, VT brings absolutely nothing to the SEC but long road trips & recruiting in what is already SEC territory.

Mike

June 11th, 2010
11:49 pm

Why A&M?
Top athletics (currently #12 Learfield all sports, above Texas)
Prestigious research school (#21 nationally,
including all ivy League schools, also above Texas). Top facilities. Ninth largest
endowment of all American universities (including Ivy League). Passionate fan base.
Great school with friendly fans that treat visiting teams with
respect. Texas $$$$$ for TV package.
#18 all time most successful in football. Granted A&M has
been lousy in football for past decade. But a win win for SEC IF SEC can
get them.
it would be a huge win-

tckr83

June 12th, 2010
12:09 am

I am of the group that thinks the SEC doesn’t HAVE to do anything in response to any of this expansion stuff.

But if the SEC were to expand… how could you not want VT? They’re the premier program of the ACC since joining.

VT is in a state that is currently without an SEC member, there will be new eyeballs everywhere for the SEC, they have a crazy fanbase that travels well (sounds familiar) and finally maybe this will lead to the answer for all SEC fans of what a freaking HOKIE actually is!

Money first of all is driving this, then football. Basketball is on the afterburners… hence Kansas’ most likely demotion to who knows where, just not anywhere near a top-notch conference, thats for sure.

Basketball just doesn’t bring da money.

See ya Duke and NCST, enjoy the ACC. Virginia? Add “Tech” onto that and you’re in. GT? You left the SEC once, we have UGA, and… you’re still nerds. Clemson? Maybe, I wouldn’t mind this one… but we have USC(east) and there’s already enough Orange and Tigers in the SEC.

North Carolina would be the only NC school to possibly join the SEC. Their football program actually has a heartbeat, their stadium is SEC worthy and just joining the SEC would improve it immediately… recruiting/more money/etc. Yea… their basketball team is pretty good too.

UNC’s Dean Dome capacity 22,000. Duke’s Wallace-Wade stadium for football? 33,000. Oh, and Duke wants equal share of the revenue given out every year too… NEXT!

tckr83

June 12th, 2010
12:23 am

Lynchburg is no further from the rest of the SEC East (which is where they would be) than Tallahassee is, and much closer than Miami. GT and Clemson are ideal, geographically… but do you really want Clemson and GT when VT, FSU, possibly either WVU or UNC would also be available?

minnesota dawg

June 12th, 2010
12:46 am

It’s starting to remind you of all the airline mergers! Why can’t we stick by regions. Whoever heard of inviting a Southwest team to be in the Pacific? I can see inviting Florida State and Miami to the SEC. What did the Big 12 do to make teams want to bolt? They were the second best conference! Go DAWGS and go SEC!

Rob

June 12th, 2010
12:50 am

The SEC paid out $17.3 million per school this year. If you add a school, then that school must increase conference revenue by $17.3 million or more; otherwise, the payout per team goes down. Maybe Texas does that, but I’m not convinced that anyone else does and frankly I don’t want to deal with Texas. The SEC should sit this one out. It will be fine at 12 teams – there is no need to dilute the brand. Bigger is not always better.

Uga 68

June 12th, 2010
1:41 am

I have a real fear Missouri may end up in the SEC. Texas schools aren’t coming. Texas has an ego way too big for the SEC. They would be just another power program among many…they can own the pathetic PAC-16. A&M doesn’t have the nerve not to do what the Longhorns tell them. The SEC will grab a few ACC teams to round it out. This will all hurt college football. Some programs like Texas just demand too much and destroy everything around them. Hey Mike…be strong and just stick with your current 12 members!!!!!

An idea

June 12th, 2010
2:15 am

Add these teams to SEC
Texas A&M, Missouri, Baylor, and (FSU or Clemson)
SEC goes to 4 pods instead of divisions

North Pod
Tennessee
Missouri
Kentucky
Vandy

West Pod
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Baylor

East Pod
Florida
Georgia
FSU or Clemson
South Carolina

South/Mid Pod
Alabama
Ole Miss
Auburn
Miss State

Good scheduling potentials exist with this setup and it extends the footprint of SEC

An idea further

June 12th, 2010
2:38 am

Schedule
Play every team in your pod
Play all teams in one other pod (rotate thru a 3 year cycle)
Plus a set rival game from one of the other two pods
8 conference games total
play 3 outside conf games
11 total
At end of season have a mini playoff ie
North champ vs West champ
South vs East
Then an SEC championship game – this would bring in the $$$$$ and viewers then onto the National championship game

An idea - now make it happen

June 12th, 2010
2:44 am

How to make a good thing better.
you are welcome SEC – Larry Scott

dawgs23

June 12th, 2010
3:29 am

i think we should keep every thing how it is we have made it this far so yeah

PDawg

June 12th, 2010
5:27 am

Money is to the SEC what the SUN is to your skin….too much causes cancer…..cancer is uncontrolled, nonhealthy growth.

bob smyrna

June 12th, 2010
6:44 am

Look at it logically.
Texas and OU are thing only schools worth pursuing. Great athletics and large audience additions. Of course, they would cause long travel for minor sports.
FSU and Miami are now 2nd tier teams in a state the SEC already owns.
Va Tech is having a nice run under Beamer, but expect a return to Bill Dooley level success in a few years. The DC area audience might be consideration.
Ga Tech . lol SEC owns Atlanta already. High school Stadium.

dabo

June 12th, 2010
7:25 am

So the Big 10 now has 12 teams and the Big 12 now has 10 teams. If it stays like this, they could just trade logos.

Gen Neyland

June 12th, 2010
7:40 am

Rumor out of the SEC Commissioner’s office is that talks are under-way to acquire the ACC ‘ By any means necessary ‘, including the secret ‘ Hostile Takeover Masterplan ‘. There will be 4 divisions : The East, West, Them and Those. Teams from the Them and Those Divisions will not be eligible to play in the SECCG for 20 years but will be allowed to purchase tickets to the SECCG game. Also as part of the deal, GT must begin selling it’s consessions and quit giving them away…More to follow…

Bart

June 12th, 2010
7:55 am

Serious Dawg fans need to start organizing and demanding that D. Evans fire Richt.

Otherwise, sports writers will be asking the same question this time a year from now.

Richt represents mediocrity. Saban and Meyer represent excellence and championships. Richt simply isn’t in their class, nor will he ever be. Richt would have to be incredibly lucky to win the division, and the odds against him winning the SEC championship go up to at least 20:1.

Those are the simple facts, and there’s no amount of enthusiasm or cheerleading or Top 5 recruiting classes that can get around it.

As they say in poker, “Read ‘em and weep.”

ATL G8R

June 12th, 2010
9:01 am

SEC adding 2 schools makes sense…make it a 9 game schedule instead of 8…each school loses one patsy game but can still have at least 7 home games (they will either have 4 or 5 league games every year).

A&M to the West makes sense…could be Mizzou as the 2nd school….Aub and Bama move to the East. This protects the rivalries of Aub/GA and Bama/UT.

Does Mizzou make the biggest splash though? They may be the best option. VT doesn’t come without UVA…doesn’t sound like a ton of interest in adding FSU or UM as UF already delivers the larger TV markets in FL (Tampa/St Pete, Orlando/Daytona/Melbourne, Miami/Ft Laud)

Of course…don’t put it past Mike Slive…maybe he is secretly making a play for ND…..

Chris

June 12th, 2010
9:14 am

I don’t believe the SEC needs the Texas Schools, it is Legitimate without them. If I am the SEC, I go after Oklahoma & Oklahoma St and then Add either Clemson & Virginia Tech OR Florida State and Clemson.

I also would go 4 divisions…..Have a Semi Final and then a conference Championship and begin to give the fans and the College Football world the playoff system we all want.

minnesota dawg

June 12th, 2010
9:41 am

Bart, I don’t agree with you. Richt is a legitimate threat to every SEC team. Look at the records! Florida is the only one we have had trouble with and that will change starting this year.

Texas Jacket

June 12th, 2010
10:29 am

bitterDAWG: you are forgetting LSU to your list. Maybe you can’t count. SEC should just stay the way it is.

wildbill

June 12th, 2010
10:40 am

What about Georgia State? Just a matter of time……. It sure would be better than some teachers college in Timbuctoo, New Mexico. I kinda like the sound of Georgia State!

Bryan Edwards

June 12th, 2010
10:56 am

Keep the SEC as it is! Why mess with a good thing….. It’s only the best conference in college football!

GaDawg

June 12th, 2010
11:03 am

@Uga 68
I have the same feeling about Missouri. I think the main question we need to know about any school that the SEC picks up, as Rob pointed out, is can they bring with them $17.3 million or more? I’m sure that Mike Slive knows what he is doing,so well just have to wait for his decision on who comes in.

KeithB

June 12th, 2010
11:14 am

“We are the best and toughest football conference in the nation”

By “we” you mean UF and Bama. I love how UGA fans are so quick to take credit for something they haven’t done. Even when you won the SEC back when, you were relegated to playing WVU and Hawaii, and not a NC. Please quit with all this conference talk and hope that UGA can play for a title in the next 30 years. That or become a Gator or Tide fan. Tough, right? Like Vandy tough, MSU tough, Kentucky tough, Tenn tough, South Carolina tough. Please stop leaning on the SEC crutch, and accept the fact that UGA underachieves year after year. If you want to tell me how good Florida and Bama are, I am all ears. At least you get a nice amount of money from their success.

Customary Fact Checker

June 12th, 2010
11:18 am

Lets get some Facts Straight…the SEC as of today only wants FSU and Miami. The entire state of Florida would be in the SEC. The Television markets will be covered. The Conference will get major pressure to take GT and Clemson.

Taking Texas will bring alot of high maintenance……and Oklahoma really wants to go to a conference where THEY can win Championships…..the SEC is not the answer for them….

Greenhulk

June 12th, 2010
11:32 am

Reports have SEC offering Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia.

LT Hokie

June 12th, 2010
11:42 am

Cap,

Since VT joined the ACC they now have DC radio stations broadcasting football and basketball games. About 40% of VT alumni are in the DC market. VT would bring VA, DC, and MD suburbs into the television market.

Life Coach

June 12th, 2010
11:56 am

SEC dreamers: Forget Ga Tech joining the SEC! They left for good reason. Also if you check the records you will find that GT has more SEC championships than most of the SEC teams. And they have been out of the SEC almost 50 years!

Life Coach

June 12th, 2010
12:01 pm

Georgia has been getting a lot of hype for their “new dream” team. It will turn out to be another 7/5 season. As always, another disappointment. Thirty years and counting!

1eyedJack

June 12th, 2010
12:26 pm

The ACC could be savaged by the SEC. What does that say for the relavancy of that conference?

1eyedJack

June 12th, 2010
12:27 pm

Rats will desert a sinking ship.

chris

June 12th, 2010
1:11 pm

Potential New SEC Conference

EAST- Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, S. Carolina, Kentucky
CENTRAL- Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss. St., Vanderbilt
WEST- Arkansas, LSU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Texas A&M

Total Teams 15

1. Play all in your division (4 games)
2. Play 3 outside your division (1 permanent + 2 on rotation)
3. Play 3 whoever you want

Road to championship
2 weeks before conference championship…every team plays in conference except top team in conference overall (must be division champ)…also the #2 & 3 in conference (must be division champ) play each other…schedule determined by conferenced and announced on Monday.

Championship
Winner of #2 & 3 vs #1

Chickasaw

June 12th, 2010
1:35 pm

Put me down in the “why fix what ain’t broken?” camp, but if we must add, limit it to 2. Best ideas I’ve seen here are to add 2 current Big 12 programs and move UA and AU to SEC East. Preserves AU-UGA and UA-UT rivalries, re-lights the old AU-UF, AU-UT, UA-UGA, LSU-A&M rivalry games, and reinforces the already re-ignited Ark-A&M rivalry game. Rivalry games matter–the fans love them and they preserve what is most unique to college f’ball v other sports: ancient traditions steeped in legend and lore, passed down thru generations. There is a cost, tho: UA’s rivalry games with the Miss schools and LSU are diminished. Also, at least for near future, East would become nastier than West–perfect seasons practically impossible! AND NO NAME CHANGE–SEC is SEC forever!

boots

June 12th, 2010
7:17 pm

This move towards several mega-conferences will make it much harder to NOT have a NC tourney. If the SEC adds either TX school and VT or FL State, it will be virtually impossible to have any SEC go through the schedule undefeated. (The Pac-10 and Big 10, on the otherhand, will not have that problem.) Here’s why: the SEC East could be: UGA, FL, VA Tech, TN, FL State, UK, USC and Vandy. That would be 4 tough games, plus the Western team (say, Bama, LSU, Auburn, Texas A&M), PLUS the SEC Championship. No way a team runs that schedule. Now, the PAC-10 is basically the Big 12, minus Nebraska (maybe Tex A&M), and a much weakened Southern Cal. The Big 10 just adds Nebraska. Both conferences don’t have a championship game, which is odd.

The SEC would be lucky to have a team with one loss, and the National Championship cannot exist without an SEC team in it with those schedules. If it did, it would be a joke.

boots

June 12th, 2010
7:26 pm

What if the SEC added… Texas, Texas A&M, OK, OK State, FL State, Miami, Louisville, and VA Tech? Create an SEC North & South conference, along with the East & West. Each has 5 teams. Then at the end of the year, you have a four-team playoff. Winner = National Champion.

Matt Holcomb

June 12th, 2010
8:00 pm

SEC will need to respond to the Pac 10 (16) expansion…but why to 16 teams…why not a 14 team SEC? Just add Texas A&M and West Virgina, if they accepted of course. Texas A&M would play in the West and West Virgina plays in the East.

This way it doesnt mess up the west/east rivarly game, and an east team would still play 2 west teams…keeping it 8 SEC games per year for each team.

Matt Holcomb

June 12th, 2010
8:18 pm

GO for a 14 TEAM SEC…not 16…quality not quanity

SEC East
Florida
Georgia
Tenn
Vandy
Kentucy
South Carolina
WEST VIRGINA

SEC west
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Ole Miss
Miss State
Arkansas
TEXAS A&M

greenhulk

June 12th, 2010
8:30 pm

Has everyone seen the out from a SEC director. They will not be offering Miami, FSU, Clemson, or Ga. Tech to join the SEC. There is one thing everyone has been forgetting about….Chic-fil-a. My sources tell me that Chic-Fi-la will not stand by and let the SEC raid the ACC. There is a lot of money tied up in the SEC / ACC Kickoff and bowl game. I heard that if the SEC raids the ACC, the games will become the Big Ten / ACC challenge. Chic-Fila will open the Atlanta market to the Big Ten Network, the last thing the SEC wants to happen. No ACC team will be moving…..you can take it to the bank.

BuLLdawg

June 13th, 2010
2:29 am

20-12 over the last 4 years vs SEC teams good for 4th place

10-10 over the last 4 years vs SEC East teams good for 3rd place

By Chris Low June 11, 2010 :

One of the best ways to evaluate a coach is to look at his record against nationally ranked teams.

Coaches in the SEC against what was on game day Top 25 foes at their current schools

No. 1 : Urban Meyer, Florida — 19-6 (.760)
No. 2 : Nick Saban, Alabama — 11-5 (.688)
No. 3 : Houston Nutt, Ole Miss — 5-3 (.625)
No. 4 : Les Miles, LSU — 18-11 (.621)
No. 5 : Mark Richt, Georgia — 29-19 (.604)

What we should do is get out of The SEC since we can’t compete.

Who the hell wants to be 3rd best in their division of their conference and 4th or 5th best in their conference.

Oh, yeah, right the Bible Thumping DISNEYdawgs.com do.

savannadawg

June 13th, 2010
9:17 am

JEZ PLEASE, LET THEM HAVE THIER 16 TEAM CONFERENCE. IT WILL NOT WORK!!! THERE WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH MONEY 2 MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY. NEVER.

savannadawg

June 13th, 2010
9:18 am

12 is the right number of teams in a conference.

savannadawg

June 13th, 2010
9:26 am

Big 12 does not have to die! La. Tech, Baylor, Houston, UTEP, TCU, Texas A & M, Kansas, Kansas St., MIssouri, SMU, RICE and Tulsa. All these teams could actually get stronger by calling themselves THE NEW B12 confrence. This keeps some identity with the old yet also gives these guys a fresh start.

savannadawg

June 13th, 2010
9:32 am

I’ll tell everyone this too. The SEC does NOT have to respond to what these other conferences are doing. And if the PAC 16 things they deserve 2 at large BCS bids then the NCAA and the BCS should step up RIGHT NOW! And tell these folks that the only guaranteed BCS bid will go to THE conference champion, which WILL BE determined in a championship game. If Mike Slive and the other Presidents of the SEC schools don’t voice their opinions about this, then maybe they all need to be wearing thongs!!!!!!!

DoubleG

June 13th, 2010
9:33 am

to Bitter DWAG….your MEGA SEC conference is lacking,,,you forgot LSU.
i guess you are still bitter from this years’ loss in football at the “hedges”

for what its worth i think the SEC should add just two schools to get to a 14 team conference. hopefully one from the west and one from the east.

savannadawg

June 13th, 2010
9:46 am

IF THE SEC IS COMPELED TO MOVE, these are my thoughts. I know florida would not like this but too me its the only senario that makes since. For purposes of economics and keeping it simple stupid. One. I don’t particulary like inviting Texas A&M. They are now where as strong as they used to be. Is the market really there for us to get that much (as far as recruiting goes) out of Texas? As far as VA. TECH is concerned. There is nothing in Blacksburg Va. i am overly Inammored with. TOO far away. See Texas A&M. Lets stick close to home so we can have SOLD OUT venuse and make alot of money that way. So I had to break up the ACC but if we are going to do this here it is. FSU and South Florida from the sunshine state. Clemson and North Carolina from the Carolinas.

savannadawg

June 13th, 2010
9:54 am

Oh, greenhulk I didn’t read your blog before I put my two cents worth in. I agree with that senario 100%, And dn’t forget I believe the Gator is going back to an SEC vs. ACC aren’t they?

savannadawg

June 13th, 2010
10:04 am

Chris, Your getting there. Ilike your idea. Is it fair to have the #2 and 3 teams to vie who will play the #1. Senario sounds just O.K. but puts way too much stress on the 2 & 3 ranked teams. they would have to play the extra game to get to the conf. champ. game then play the conf. champ. game and then a bowl game. So thats 12 + 1 + 1 + 1 or 15 games. Anybody who plays 15 games deserves a piece of the National Championship.

GoDawgs

June 13th, 2010
3:23 pm

UGA will be a lock in the east due to location. If any team would be vunerable to a move to the west based on location it would be Vandy. What happens if we add one team to the west which seems like it may happen with Texas A&M? Who do we invite to join the east or do we keep the west with 7 teams and the east with 6?

Tim Morris

June 13th, 2010
10:13 pm

The Big Ten will not add more than 14 teams. Consequently neither will the SEC, Big East, ACC and probably the Mountain West. Conference USA may actually acquire more than 16, and of course the Pac 10 is set to become the PAC 16. Probable candidates for SEC expansion, in my opinion, include Texas A&M, VA Tech, Missouri, and of course the regular suspects in the deep south ACC.

HANK

June 14th, 2010
12:58 am

Some of these posts are made by idiots. One guy said A&M doesn’t have that many fans/cadets? A&M is not a military school and has more fans than over half the SEC schools. Here is how it will go down.

SEC offers Texas, Texas will Stay in own Conf, or move to Pac 10 or SEC. If they stay put, expantion stops. If they goto SEC the next move will be A&M, then Oklahoma and Virginia Tech or OSU.

If Texas goes Pac-10, SEC will fight for A&M. If A&M comes look for UNC, Duke, Kansas (if not forced for KSU)

IF A&M goes PAC-10 SEC goes UNC, Kansas, Duke, V-tech (super BB conf now with KY, UNC, Duke, Florida, Kansas.

I am tired of people talking about big-10 going after rutgers. No one in NYC cares about rutgers. Id argue there are more UGA fans in NYC than Rutgers. Big 10 should go after Kansas and MO to add 2 big cities that actually watch College sports. NY is a pro-team state.

SEC will not add GT, FSU, Miami, Clemson

Paddy

June 14th, 2010
10:02 am

That old adage of “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” is again a often repeated line that carries no truth. Of course you fix (tweek) a good thing. It happens every day of your life in commerce. Why not football? People love those old sayings. They rarely ever tell the whole story and to live by most of them is living with blinders on!

Paddy

June 14th, 2010
10:18 am

customary fact checker….I must disagree with your additions to the SEC. GT, Miami, Clemson and Fla St add nothing to the tv package. And this is what this expansion is all about ($$$). In fact those 4 teams could actually hurt the SEC tv revenue stream. The SEC must go out of their region to garner subscribers that they now can’t get. The last thing conferences are looking at right now is good logistics and doing something good for its fan base! We all want this to be a nice tidy process, it won’t. It will be nothing more than a blood bath!

coach smith

June 14th, 2010
11:18 am

look for the SEC to add 2 teams only for now…VaTech and TexasAM….

A&M will be in the west and VaTech in the East

You will then play the other 6 teams in your division + a perminant rival from the West and there will then be only 1 rotating oppenant from the West

Very simple

DG

June 16th, 2010
6:06 pm

I do not think it is in the best interest fro any conference to go over 14 teams. I look at this as a way fro the big BCS conferences to keep control of the money and to make sure that those teams in those conferences gets the best games in order to make the best money on bowl games its time to bring the spirit of football back