What would SEC expansion mean for UGA?

What might SEC expansion mean to the Georgia-Auburn rivalry? (Associated Press)

What might SEC expansion mean to the Georgia-Auburn rivalry? (Associated Press)

It’s like following a soap opera: Will the Aggies follow Texas wherever it goes or step out of the Longhorns’ shadow? Might Virginia Tech be lured away from the ACC? Does a mega conference deserve two BCS bids?

Amid all the cliffhanger scenarios, impassioned debates and wild speculation about what will happen in the current conference realignment upheaval, there’s a more pertinent question for the Bulldog Nation: What would an expanded SEC mean for UGA?

Or, more particularly, what would a 16-team mega SEC mean for the Dogs?

Probably a scheduling nightmare, for starters. Mark Richt has gone on record as saying his main concern is that the SEC not add an additional conference game to the eight already played, and he’s probably not alone among conference coaches in feeling that way.

If the SEC winds up as a 16-team league, that most likely means two eight-team divisions. If you play every other team in your division every year, as is now the case, and you stick to eight conference games, that leaves only one team per year from the other division. If you up it to nine conference games per year, Georgia still would only be playing two teams from the SEC West.

How would rotating the teams from the other division work, and how would this impact longtime cross-division rivalries? Currently SEC schools each have one permanent opponent from the other division. Georgia’s is Auburn. What would happen to the Deep South’s oldest football rivalry in a 16-team league?

Of course, there probably would have to be a realignment of the divisions, especially if any of the Texas or Oklahoma schools came into the conference. Might Auburn move to the SEC East? That at least would maintain the rivalry with UGA. What about Alabama, would it make sense to have them and Florida and Georgia in the same division? And what if Florida State comes in? Do you keep both Sunshine State schools in the East?

How would you feel about Georgia winding up in the SEC West?

Also, assuming that the SEC lands some big-name teams and doesn’t have to resort to adding lesser programs just to reach the 16-team level — Louisville, anyone? — you’ve got to figure it will be tougher for Georgia (and everyone else in the conference) to get to the championship game.

No wonder a lot of of SEC fans wish someone would press the reset button and this whole mega-conference idea would just go away. Unfortunately, with big-bucks TV deals behind all of this, that’s not going to happen.

So what are your thoughts (and hopes and fears) about Georgia’s place in a new-look SEC?

167 comments Add your comment

Spike

June 11th, 2010
11:16 am

I won’t say “First!”.

Spike

June 11th, 2010
11:19 am

Seriously, I think the SEC is just fine as is. We are the best and toughest football conference in the nation. This “ain’t braggin’”, it is just an undeniable fact. These other teams being mentioned need us more than we need them.

JBD

June 11th, 2010
11:22 am

Why is all of this even happening? Someone please explain to me. I’ve always lived by the idea that “if it’s not broken and everyone is happy, don’t fix it!”

JBD

June 11th, 2010
11:25 am

I guess a better questions is, “how did all of this talk of the mega conference even begin?” Who was unhappy with its conference that started all of this trouble?

bitter DAWG

June 11th, 2010
11:29 am

bitter DAWG

June 11th, 2010
11:29 am

UPDATE , 5TH

Not Saint Simons

June 11th, 2010
11:31 am

well, first let me say 30-24 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

second – i HATE the idea of 2 BCS bowls going automatically to a mega conference. the main draw the idea of 16 team conferences has for me is the idea that if there are 8 mega conferences, there are spots for 128 teams. With the winners of those 8 conferences going to the 4 BCS bowls, those plus a “plus-1″ means we have an almost legitimate national championship.

Kevin

June 11th, 2010
11:33 am

Add A&M to the West and FSU or VTech to the East and be done with it. A 14 team conference is not as chaotic.

bitter DAWG

June 11th, 2010
11:35 am

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bitter DAWG

June 11th, 2010
11:36 am

UPDATE TOP GROUP SEC NORTH

Bitter Kevin Butler

June 11th, 2010
11:39 am

give me 1 more year for the dogs and i will kick michael adams a–ss through the uprights

Mike

June 11th, 2010
11:39 am

You mean to say Ga wouldnt sacrifice a game against Louianna-Lafeyette or Idaho State to play another in conference game? Come on Man! I’m a UT fan and I am totally embarrassed at the fact we open the season against Tennessee-Martin. The Vols are gonna be mediocre at best this year, but I would much prefer a tail kickin by an SEC school instead of playing a team that the Fraternity flag football groups should beat. If the SEC expands to 16, one more “in division” game will work. Move the total conference games to 10. That leaves two games out of conference. Plenty of opportunity for a rivalry game (like GA-GA Tech) and a cupcake homecoming game. Not sure if the gators would give up their annual division II game though.

RxDawg

June 11th, 2010
11:41 am

I hope we don’t expand. We have a great thing going as it is and most conferences are just trying to keep up.

VT2SEC

June 11th, 2010
11:44 am

Enter your comments here

Chris

June 11th, 2010
11:44 am

The SEC should add the Aggies and Fl State. That gives us 1 more team on each side. We can eliminate the permenate rival from east/west and move them into the east/west rotation game.

If we do move to 16 teams, we should also add GA Tech and TX.

Bryan

June 11th, 2010
11:45 am

Is the author of this article, or SEC fans in general, aware there are other sports than Football. Louisville would be a “lesser program”? Louisville, if it joined, would immediately have the second bet b-ball program in the SEC after Kentucky. but I guess their 2 national championships and EIGHT FINAL FOURS are not on par with the great achievements of Miss. St. Ole miss, Vandy, and the like

I-DOG

June 11th, 2010
11:46 am

JBD.

The one word answer is MONEY!

Example: Colorado, the first team to move (officially) currently generates $8 Million annually from football and this is projected to go up to $22 Million annually once they start playing in the new Pac 12 or 16.

bill lumberg

June 11th, 2010
11:48 am

I agree with Mike. UGA would simply need to drop the cupcakes. As would Florida.

Kevin makes a great point—add 2 teams and be done with it.

Mike Slive will keep the SEC value-added by offering two spots.

Look for invitations to Texas A&M, possibly Missouri or Baylor (they are not the sexy pick but gives A&M a close rival, keeps the Tex politicos happy) or a wild-card such as Va. Tech (if they can cut ties with UVa)

Spike

June 11th, 2010
11:51 am

Mike.. Hard to argue with your point. It makes sense to me, if the SEC expands.

MooreUGA

June 11th, 2010
11:57 am

Oh come on, Mike! Sure we are playing LA-Lafayette this season but let’s not act like UGA has played a pansy schedule lately.

As far as expansion, if we have to add anybody, I’d go for Texas A&M for the west and Clemson for the East. Clemson just has an SEC feel and established rivalries.

East Cobb Hokie

June 11th, 2010
11:58 am

Understand from Richmond media and state of Virginia (meaning that internal state political contacts have been made by VT to cover bases after 2003 ACC debacle) that SEC has told VT that if VT applied for SEC membership, VT would be accepted. Also was told that SEC would not extend an invite and be rejected. But VT AD Jim Weaver told SEC we are happy in the ACC ……for now. Lots of integrity at SEC and VT being displayed. Shame on the B12>11>10>? and their universities couldn’t do the same.

VT2SEC

June 11th, 2010
12:00 pm

VT has been only bright spot for ACC post expansion….ACC teams/fans still view VT as outsider that had to use the Gov to get the votes for an invite….I hope the SEC offers VT and VT bolts for the SEC. May not win as many football games, but would be a good fit for SEC.

bill lumberg

June 11th, 2010
12:02 pm

Clemson brings nothing to the table.

jaglaw

June 11th, 2010
12:10 pm

the sec has been very successful, as has the big 10. If these other schools have had time to sit back and figure a way to become “powerful” we (sec) should take note. what if, in 5 years, these mega conferences are dominating the financial side of things and the NC? What would the sec do then? Would there be any big schools left if we chose to wait and see how this expansion shakes out.? By then, it may be too late.

The SEC is as strong as has ever been, dont think that this expansion is in many ways to break up the financial strangle hold the sec and b-10 has on college football. Just saying. Dont under estimate the risk in doing nothing.

Headlines: 2015, “Would the SEC have expanded if they new then, what they now now”

Mett's fake ID

June 11th, 2010
12:14 pm

Don’t worry about VT feeling bad about cutting ties with UVA. The Hokies and Cavs were in two different conferences for a long time until the ACC expansion came around.

In fact, the Guv forced the Cavs to demand Tech’s invite to the ACC. The conference was originally just going to take Miami, Syracuse, and BC.

I don’t think Tech would have qualms about taking more money from the SEC. Same goes for A&M whose athletic department is 16 million in debt

Spike

June 11th, 2010
12:21 pm

I don’t get the attraction to Texas A&M. Why are they being considered?

Ed

June 11th, 2010
12:32 pm

The SEC does not need to expand just because everyone else is doing it. Back in the old days, the fact that the SEC, Pac 10, and Big 10 had ten teams each didn’t hurt the Big 8 or SWC (eight each). The SEC would remain powerful and highly marketable as a 12-team league.

The Situation

June 11th, 2010
12:33 pm

If Texas, OU, etc come to the SEC it also means that the SEC championship game would also at least rotate out of Atlanta. You know they would want something played in the new billion dollar Dallas Stadium.

oledawg

June 11th, 2010
12:38 pm

Everyone was dancing around the 800lb gorilla and Spike points it out. A&M doesn’t bring the big Texas market except when they play Texas. There ain’t that many cadets out there, folks.

Ask ND and Texas if they are interested to join. If they ain’t, then screw’em.

robodawg

June 11th, 2010
12:41 pm

The SEC has got to preserve the traditional annual rivalries. That’s where the SEC got it (mostly) right when we went to 12 teams, and where the Big 12 really screwed up. But, it would probably require adding a conference game.

If there is a national move to superconferences, it will require more conference games for everyone and put a damper on interconference play.

Dawg 39

June 11th, 2010
12:44 pm

Geography, rivalry games, & border wars (including recruiting) have made the SEC the best conference in the nation. Keep it like it is if possible.
I still believe that SEC fans would be more interested in the scores & highlights from teams such as Tech, Clemson, & FSU than TA&M or VT. There are a lot of Ga. players at those 3 schools. Tech would have instant rivalry games with Vandy & Auburn. Clemson & FSU with the Dawgs..
If we have to expand, keep it in the family (geographically), and keep the the rivalry games & border wars at a maximum. The SE is a hotbed for college football. Keep it that way.

skip

June 11th, 2010
12:53 pm

the best plan, (considering plans that have some possibility of happening) is for Tex AM, Ok state, Kan and Kan state. you pick up the Texas markets, the Oklahoma kansas markets and part of Missouri. Kansas adds basketball clout to our league.

#1 BAMA FAN

June 11th, 2010
12:54 pm

If teams like Texas and Oklahoma want to join fine….if not play the cards we have and raise two dollars. I can’t wait for SEC football.RTR

HBTD

June 11th, 2010
12:55 pm

Love to see Texas, Oklahoma, Clemson and FSU join the league.

Jeff

June 11th, 2010
1:09 pm

SEC East: UGA, Florida, SC, Clemson, Tenn, Fla St. Vandy, KY
SEC West: Bama, AuBarn, LSU, Missy, Missy St, Pigs, TxAM, Tx (or OK)

SEC East: same as above- except add Aubarn (more rivalries- UGA, UF, Clemson) and send Vandy or KY to west.

#1 hater

June 11th, 2010
1:11 pm

QB recruit LeMay could misssuspension
Submitted by Marc Weiszer on Fri, 06/11/2010 – 9:34am.
The top-rated player in Georgia’s 2011 football recruiting class is facing a possible suspension from his high school of up to 30 days that could keep him out of more than half of the upcoming season.

Quarterback Christian LeMay from Butler High School in Matthews, N.C., has a Monday hearing after being accused of breaking a Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools’ code of conduct rule, according to the Charlotte Observer, which cited unnamed sources. The suspension could be for up to 30 days.

Asked about that report this morning, LeMay’s mother, DeNae, told the Athens Banner-Herald: “I can’t give you any further information at this time.”

LeMay, rated as the No. 2 quarterback in the nation by Scout.com and the No. 39 overall prospect, announced his intention to attend Georgia in late April.

According to the Charlotte-Mecklenberg Schools’ code of conduct, a suspension of up to 30 days can result from any of more than 20 “Tier III” infractions including fighting, threatening or intimidating behavior, assaulting a student or adult, possession of a weapon, sexual behavior on school property, gambling, vandalism or theft.

“Student records are protected by state law, and I can’t discuss it,” school spokesperson Kathleen Johansen said. “In general, when a student has violated the student code of conduct, they are disciplined accordingly, and that’s all we can say. I can’t tell you what they did, I can’t tell you the length of the suspension.”

Students that are suspended can not practice or play with their school teams. They can attend different alternative programs until they return to school.

LeMay passed for 3,296 yards with 44 touchdowns and two interceptions while completing 68.5 percent of his passes last season for Butler en route to the North Carolina 4AA state championship.

TOLD ALL OF YOU HUMPERS HE WAS A ME PLAYER. ANOTHER RICHT RECRUIT THAT NEEDS INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO BE A SUCCESSFUL MAN.

Kyle

June 11th, 2010
1:15 pm

East: Dawgs, Lizzards, chickens, red necks, Hilbillies, Free Shoes, Vandy and KY
West: Blama, barnyard Birds, Missy and their sister ST, Piggies, LSWho, both cows from Texas.

Kent

June 11th, 2010
1:18 pm

Move Carolina and UT to the west and Missy St and Missy to the east and call the west: The Barnyard

JB

June 11th, 2010
1:24 pm

I’ll tell you why this is happening………..because of the SEC……Big money, bright lights, prime time and all the rage. Everyone else is looking up. they want what we got…….to be the biggest, best, most respected conference in NCAA football.

northgadawg

June 11th, 2010
1:29 pm

The sec should not expand everyone is talkn about the mega conferance where the sec should make an elite conference boot out the week bring in the strong get rid of kentucky vandy miss st bring in texas oklahoma florida st quality not quantity

Bluegrass Boy

June 11th, 2010
1:32 pm

We need to keep any expansion inside the borders. I disagree with Bryan, football is the moneytrain sport thus making it the most important sport around, Louisville has no business in the SEC…

GT, Clemson, FL State, and one other

Mike

June 11th, 2010
1:37 pm

MoreUGA, I wasn’t saying UGA has a pansy schedule. My point was that UGA, along with my Vols, the Gators, and every other SEC school will schedule at least 2 non-conference games that are less than SEC standard. Losing one of those games with lesser quality to add an extra conference game will not hurt any of the programs. The fans would, most likely, enjoy better games as well.

GeezusDawg

June 11th, 2010
1:38 pm

Keep all charter members of the SEC – boot SC and Ark and start over from there.

Will

June 11th, 2010
1:38 pm

Slive needs to understand something. If he adds a Texas, Texas A & M, Oklahoma, Clemson, etc. There will not be an SEC team in the BCSNC for several years. All of teams schedules will be too tough and the conference winner will probably have at least 2 losses per season. I mean if the SEC East has UGA, UF, Bama, Tenn, Auburn, UK and Vandy on one side how in the hell do you expect anyone to be undefeated or even have 1 loss for that matter? If Slive in not careful the SEC could be hurt by expansion. I would stand still this year and see how all of this plays out. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

dawgs01

June 11th, 2010
1:39 pm

Its all about money. One reason the SEC is so good is bc of our revenue plus we live in the South where the best high school football is played. If the Pac 10 gets 16 and TX and OK are included they will be bringing in more money than us and so would the Big 10. We make alot of money now which gives us the best facilities and best coaches whcih helps alot in recruiting. If we stay at 12 while the PAC 10 and Big 10 expand to 16 we will get left behind just as the Pac 10 and Big 10 did by not adding a championship game when the SEC did. I hate expansion it is killing regional pride but if other do we will have to just to keep up. Look if the Pac 10 adds the Big 12 south they should call themselves HALF OF AMERICA CONFERENCE or 3 TIME ZONES CONFERENCE i just hope we keep it in the South and dont bring in any yankee teams.

Camden Mark

June 11th, 2010
1:41 pm

Don’t like it,don’t like it,don’t like it.Just leave it alone.
Only two teams I see that might fit(if forced to pick)are Clemson and Va Tech.

Ed

June 11th, 2010
1:48 pm

The SEC is already a super-conference, leave it alone.

Just saw that Boise St. bolted to the MWC. The MWC should go for its own super-conference and try to pick up Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor. Not exactly a glamour conference, but add those schools to existing members like Boise State, Utah, BYU and TCU and you have a conference that has a more legitimate claim to BCS status than does the Big East.

Jeremy Foley

June 11th, 2010
1:50 pm

FSU will join the SEC over my dead and rotting carcass. I’m too powerful to allow this to happen.

Whopper Dawg

June 11th, 2010
2:06 pm

It is all about TV sets. If the Pac 10 and Big 10 pulls off what they desire they will have a huge advantage in TV revenue in short order. The SEC has to expand.

Slive needs to go hard after Texas and A&M, if Texas doesn’t want to come, go after Oklahoma. In the East go after VA Tech North Carolina.

Gatorman

June 11th, 2010
2:12 pm

If the SEC takes in Clemson and Georgia Tech, UGA won’t have the SEC to pull players away from the ACC schools. When we play them, they’ll be crying like sheep going to the slaughter, oh yeah they do that now.