Consider the source of reports bad-mouthing UGA coaches

Secondhand sniping at Mark Richt isn't worth worrying about. (University of Georgia)

Secondhand sniping at Mark Richt isn't worth worrying about. (University of Georgia)

This seems to be a week for second-hand knocks on UGA’s football coaches.

First we had the much overblown report that Nash Nance, a quarterback whose main claim to a scholarship at the University of Tennessee appeared to be that he was the best friend of highly recruited receiver Da’Rick Rogers, told the Knoxville News-Sentinel that Rogers reneged on his commitment to Georgia because “the [UT] coaches are a lot more professional. He had a lot of bad dealings with Georgia coaches.”

Nash didn’t provide any specifics on those so-called bad dealings, but the natural suspicion among many in the Bulldog Nation is that what’s at the heart of Nash’s blast is that the UGA coaches wouldn’t guarantee to Rogers that they’d give his buddy a scholarship as well.

Whatever. Sounds like mean-spirited post-recruiting sour grapes.

But on top of having his professionalism questioned by a kid who UGA snubbed, Mark Richt has also gotten some blowback from a source reportedly close to former Georgia safety Makiri Pugh, who decided after spring practice to leave UGA apparently because he didn’t think he was going to get much playing time.

Pugh plans to transfer to Colorado, his high school position coach has told The Athens Banner-Herald. That in itself isn’t all that interesting since he’ll have to sit out a year and so won’t be playing against his former teammates. And Pugh is free to go to whatever school will have him since Richt gave him an unconditional release, as is his custom with transfers.

But John Kranish, one of Pugh’s former coaches at Independence High School in Charlotte, told the ABH that Pugh was “very disappointed” in Georgia because he says that some of the other Division I schools that Pugh contacted did not get a return call from Richt or former Georgia defensive coordinator Willie Martinez, now on the staff at Oklahoma. Kranish says North Carolina State and some other ACC schools wanted to talk to UGA about the circumstances behind Pugh leaving.

What Martinez does or does not do is, fortunately, no longer our concern. But Kranish’s implication is that Richt didn’t care enough about Pugh as a player to help place him at another school.

First of all, let’s acknowledge there’s always the possibility that the picture Kranish paints is incomplete or even completely inaccurate. This is another second-hand account, with nothing directly from the player involved.

But assuming that calls to Butts-Mehre about Pugh did indeed go unanswered, what can we take from this?

Richt could have put restrictions on where Pugh transferred, as some other coaches do, but he didn’t. Beyond that, does he really owe Pugh anything? The head coach of a major school is a pretty busy guy. Should he be expected to spend time trying to place a guy who has bailed on his program?

And there’s another way of looking at the situation, as the Senator touched on in Get the Picture: Perhaps this falls in the “if you don’t have anything good to say about someone, don’t say anything at all” department.

It could be that Richt decided Pugh’s chances of landing at a decent program would be improved by him not honestly discussing the reasons the player wasn’t getting much time on the field at Georgia.

So we have a disgruntled player from another school who didn’t get recruited by Richt and a disgruntled former player who mostly rode the bench bad-mouthing the UGA staff.

Stack that up against the nine years of evidence that Richt is probably the nicest and most caring guy in the SEC coaching ranks and the beaucoup testimonials from the many players who’ve stuck with his program and thrived, and I don’t think anyone in Athens needs to lose a wink of sleep over this “bad” publicity.

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Houdawg

June 8th, 2010
9:50 pm

Bama Fan …… you speak of ONLY coming here occasionally ….. when we drag ‘Bama into this blog. What a complete joke …….. you’re here all the time. Own it BOY ……. stop making idiotic excuses.

Can You Dig It

June 8th, 2010
10:24 pm

Bama Fan….please stop….. your posts are too funny…. We laugh at your Holier-than-thou attitude as if Bama does no wrong. GROW UP LITTLE BOY..Guess what your sh-t does stink…Saban is not god and the world of college football does not revolve around the state of Alabama….you blog like a little boy…I’ll bet you even sleep in Alabama PJ’s,have a Roll Tide lunch box and have at least two Bama magnets and two flags on your car.Your team is as crooked as everybody else..so are your athletes…your school is known for covering up athletes indiscreations…Just because Alabama won the NC last year doesn’t make them the best team ever or Saban better than everyone else. Grow up little boy theres a big world out there…Can You Dig It

col fot

June 8th, 2010
10:47 pm

consider the sources, jealous trash. Mark Richt and his coaching staff are a class act. That trash shouldn’t be worthy of being put on the internet!!!

BigDawg9

June 8th, 2010
11:04 pm

Bama Fan go blog on your inbred BAMA blog. Oh thats right BAMA doesn’t have a blog because most of the toothless fans don’t know what a computer is. Or are you really a nerd fan on here bad mouthing our team and coach hoping some of those prize recruits will consider your pitiful school? Stay jealous of the best team and coach in the country! Go Dawgs!!

Payback time

June 9th, 2010
1:04 am

Richt’s taking all this down and marking his calendar for the big games—he’s ready for payback against Florida and Tennessee—the dawgs are loaded on the Oline—look for easy wins over uf and ut and a blowout win over tech. GA plays bama for the SEC—-you heard it here first.

BuLLdawg

June 9th, 2010
1:59 am

You miss the point, Bill King.

Makiri Pugh is a high school All-America player repored in the Georgia Football Media Guide to have made an interception and 4 tackles in the Orange Bowl All-America Game. We have made great strides at Charlotte Independence High School of Tom Knotts. We really don’t need you making up excuses for why you suggest might be the excuse for why Coach Richt didn’t return phone calls to Colorado or other schools. This is a big-time # 22 Defensive Back in the nation recruit to UGA. He is a physical secondary player. He played in 9 games for UGA last year making several tackles even though he and Joe Cox caught the Swine Flu. Pugh was on scholarship, after redshirting 2008, and this too will add to the # 9 in The SEC Graduation Rates for our Football Players. If he isn’t any good, then why did Mike Bobo recruit Makiri Pugh here with his 4.4 speed in the 40-yard dash ? If he isn’t any good, why did he play in 9 games last year ?

1580 SAT and 3.55 GPA Makiri Pugh would have significantly helped our Graduation Rates, among the worst in SEC football.

Virginia Tech gave him a scholarship offer, Georgia’s Mike Bobo did, Clemson did, Georgia tek did, and there were a lot more who gave him scholarship offers. This was going to be his sophomore year. His best football was ahead of him.

Consider the sources. Excuse me the source is Charlotte’s Independence High School, clearly 1 of the most important sources of top-notch football players we recruit from.

This is not good.

As for Nash Nance, everyone on this blog yelped about not getting his wide receiver Rogers. Instead DEREK DOOLEY did. The DISNYEdawgs.com who try to make up excuses and paint everything bad as good or doesn’t matter makes you look like you are trying to whistle in the graveyard. Hutson Mason will probably never play a down for UGA; that is what was said when we recruited him instead of Nance. Nance actually has a chance to get on the field this season with the vols, as they have issues at QB in case you haven’t noticed. We do too and Mason might have to play; if he does, our season is shot. If Nance plays there, he certainly has proved that he can get the football to Rogers, hasn’t he ? We needed Rogers. We have 1 wide receiver on the team and no one behind him. He leaves after this season.

I am telling you there is a lot more fire where this smoke is coming from about multiple recruits to The Georgia Bulldogs speaking ILL of the coaching staff here. Note if you will, we are talking about Rogers and the Offensive Coaching Staff at UGA today still, and we are talking about Makiri Pugh recruited by Offensive Coordinator Mike Bobo. That is who recruited Pugh.

You have to keep players like Pugh, Rogers, Mettenberger, Robinson. A football team cannot continue to lose these players. You expect your coaching staff, Mike Bobo recruited Pugh, Mike Bobo recruited Mettenberger and Mike Bobo recruited Rogers, to coach these players and to make sure they represent us well and graduate. We also would like them to be here when they are most productive which is their Junior and Senior seasons. None of these Mike Bobo recruits will be. And, it makes us look like crap.

Now, go make your excuses up.

Habanero

June 9th, 2010
5:42 am

I think that Damon Evans should tell the coaches and the players on all teams, that if they want to transfer and the coaches for whateve reason are not answering phone calls from interested schools, that the player should contact Damon Evans and he will get involved and assist the player in accomplishing the transfer. Coaches not returning these phone calls is not acceptable! Damon Evans should get involved in this for all athletes.

BuLLdawg

June 9th, 2010
6:48 am

Was it Mike Bobo, since he is the coach who recruited these players here, who is getting the heat poored upon him for not then returning the calls, and who they are putting the heat on for his statements that caused these players to be playing elsewhere when we really needed these players.

It is not like we are kicking booty vs SEC East the last 4 years at 10-10 good for # 3 vs SEC East the last 4 years, and it is not like we are kicking booty vs SEC teams the last 4 years at 20-12 good for # 4 vs SEC the last 4 years.

We just cannot afford to be losing all these top-rated recruits. We need them.

Who are the coaches that the top-rated recruits are upset at. Mike Bobo

And, Pugh is an Academic All-America in addition. It is not like we can afford any of those to go to Colorado when we are # 9 in Football Graduation Rates in The SEC.

stuckinatl

June 9th, 2010
7:06 am

Who cares if Poo leaves…. it always struck a nerve why we recruited a midget at corner. I’m sure the new db coach has more sense about the size corner he wants on the field than martinez did.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

June 9th, 2010
7:19 am

Sorry Pugh didn’t work out at UGA… he was a 4 star recruit. He didn’t get the best coaching in the world from Martinez who also poorly trained our 5 star safety that has since turned pro. That is water under the dam now and we finally have some decent defensive coaches that can TEACH the proper techniques. Richt’s worst error in judgement since coming to UGA was to make Martinez his DC instead of seeking an outsider that could actually IMPROVE the defense. Richt meant well but his loyalty to his friends and coaches is both a plus and a liability at times.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

June 9th, 2010
7:25 am

Bull Dawg – who got your panties in a wad? Nash Nance couldn’t hit a target if it was the size of the Titanic. Duh’Rick made him and now Nance wants to hang on to his coat tails. Not going to happen- Duh’Rck will eventually see the light and Nancy Pants will transfer to Furman – where he will ride the bench.

joe

June 9th, 2010
7:30 am

Man, ya’ll just can’t let a slow news (sports) day go by without throwing these two kids under the bus. I”d bet 99.9% of UG fans have no clue how the coaching staff deals with recruiting or coaching. But 100% of you sure have an opinion on it. The fact that you keep spouting off at the mouth on this lame non-story reaffirms that you still hate losing the #1 recruit from GA. Get over it already.

Milledgeville DAWG

June 9th, 2010
7:31 am

Da-Rick followed his rich friend to UT, and now is Da-fool.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

June 9th, 2010
7:31 am

By reading my comments above you may think I am anti-Richt. That would be wrong. I am a big supporter. I believe that he has learned a lot and now realizes that busines is business and friendship is something you have off the field. By the way, congratulations on your new commit Nick Marshall…. he is a great talent and should be considered at QB before you move him to DB. Fox knows his program just got a boost. He needs big time guards and he just got one.

Truth

June 9th, 2010
8:23 am

Who in their right mind can really say that being a top recruit ALWAYS (ALWAYS) has a direct transfer to the field of play? Seriously, it JUST doesn’t happen that way!

Our program is fine, our coaches are fine. Pugh wasn’t going to get much playing time, so what. If the DC doesn’t think he rates the time then he doesn’t rate the time…period. Maybe Martinez thought more of him than our current DC does. In my mind, that alone warrants letting him transfer.

I wish him the best and don’t care past that.

As far as Nance, who really cares? The facts there speak for themselves. I mean, really, Lane Kiffin? Lane freakin Kiffin? More professional….riiiiiiiight.

Nance will have his chance to back up his story when he wins the starting QB spot and leads UT to a National Championship (not). Otherwise, people will see what really happened and how he got that scholarship.

Bulldog59

June 9th, 2010
8:33 am

Flo-Ri-Duh, thanks for the heads up on Nick Marshall, had no idea he committed. A great pick-up for the Dawgs. And, agreed, he’s got talent at QB as well.

hatfieldgeoff

June 9th, 2010
8:35 am

Nance’s father joined these two at the hip. The Knoxville News story says Rogers relationship with Nance’s father began before their college recruitment. Well I am sure it was obvious Rogers was a D-1 recruit when he was in the 7th grade, so it wasn’t hard to start positioning your son as his best friend by moving Rogers into your house for long stretches of time. But the the most obvious fact is how many other SEC schools were offering Nance a scholarship, just Vanderbilt. Even with Tennessee’s bad situation at QB Nance will probably never leave the bench.

Bulldog59

June 9th, 2010
8:50 am

BuLLdawg, Pugh wants to start but won’t, so he’s looking elsewhere, not a big deal, it speaks to our depth in DBs.

If he is such a talent at DB, and has an unconditional release, why is he going to Colorado of all places? Expecting the coaches to help “sell” your ablities for you, to other schools, is a bit much IMHO. Most likely there is more to this situation than we know, and as usual, CMR will not air internal matters in the press.

As for Mett (sexual assault and lying to coaches repeatedly) and Robinson (multiple offenses, including hitting his girlfriend on two separate occasions), they had to go, end of story. CMR expects accountability and responsibility from his players.

Fillin' up @ Juniors

June 9th, 2010
8:55 am

The greatest part of this is in about 2-3 years when UT plays UGA, they will run one of those heart warming stories about these two kids, how they choose to play together, and blah blah, and UGA and their fans are totally going to be painted the evil ones in that story…You know they will…and I will laugh.

80 kids on the team and only 33-40 see the field, do the math, there are plenty of kids who never see the field, and thus don’t get their “Rudy” moment… A few I am sure blow up about it and blame whom ever they can, I won’t lose sleep over it. You went to a SEC school, you could have gone almost anywhere else and probably played. Let that be a lesson to recruits.

Loco Cabesa

June 9th, 2010
9:12 am

I love it when I hear comments like “we’re gonna win it all! You heard it here first.” Sorry, no I didn’t, I’ve been hearing it for 30 years. Humpers crack me up.

CTDawg

June 9th, 2010
9:19 am

Why is this even a story? These are two players that don’t want to be here or were not wanted here. I guess this is all there is to talk about in June.

Bulldog59

June 9th, 2010
9:24 am

hatfieldgeoff, Nance’s 15 minutes of fame have already passed and he is infamous not famous, so he has to keep stirring the pot to keep his name out there.

Too bad for Rogers, he’s going to a team that is years away from being competitive in the SEC. I read the UT O-line has no returning starters, and we know they have no QB. Even if Rogers is wide-open, no way to get him the ball.

Enough about those two, onward and upward for the Dawgs. We should see a much improved team in 2010.

Jborodawg

June 9th, 2010
9:34 am

Once again, a non-issue that with, so far, 3 pages of comments, becomes an “issue” some how. Before ya know it, Bill and other AJC writers will make up another story about “discontent in Dawg Nation”.

Amen papadawg: “Why do you even report what a high schooler has to say anyway.”

Ditto FLA DAWG: “You should be above this Bill. This kind of non story commenting amounts to absolutely nothing.”

I can’t imagine CMR not returning phone calls, unless he’s out of the country building a school or clinic or church or something.

Loco Cabesa

June 9th, 2010
9:41 am

can’t imagine CMR not returning phone calls, unless he’s out of the country building a school or clinic or church or something.

You sure are getting your 3 million per years worth out of CMR.

How2fish

June 9th, 2010
10:11 am

Bama fan you stated I overstated the textbook incident..really ?? Just for clarity lets review the Bama probation issues from well the mid 90’s shall we while your tossing rocks in glass houses shall we.. NCAA sanctions
In August 1995, the NCAA Infractions Committee claimed four violations of NCAA rules by the Alabama football program. Alabama cornerback Antonio Langham signed with a sports agent and applied to enter the NFL draft in January 1993. Alabama’s football program was placed on probation, suffered scholarship limitations, a one year post-season ban (1995), and forfeiture of eight wins and one tie from the 9-3-1 1993 season.

During the 2000 season, an assistant football coach in Memphis, Tennessee claimed that an Alabama booster had paid him $50,000 to encourage one of his players to sign with the Crimson Tide.[118] Following the NCAA investigation, Alabama received a probation from 2002 to 2006, a two-year post-season ban (2002 and 2003), and scholarship reductions.[119] A secret witness was later revealed to be Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer.[120][121]

On June 11, 2009, Alabama was sanctioned for textbook-related infractions involving 16 of 19 sports, including football. They were forced to vacate 21 wins from the 2005, 2006, and 2007 seasons and were put on three years probation, ending in June 2012.[122] The university stated “none of the textbooks or materials was used for profit or to get items not related to academics, and that the athletes involved who still have eligibility remaining have had to pay restitution.”[123] Alabama’s appeal of the ruling was unsuccessful.[124]
So as you see I didn’t really overstate a damn thing.And how many times do I have to remind you Bamamites I never said Saban was leaving..I just think given the man’s history that your nuts if you take his word that he is not. I think he is good for the SEC and would much rather he be here than say next year at Michigan.

BG

June 9th, 2010
11:10 am

GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dawg Trainer

June 9th, 2010
3:40 pm

Let me put it like this to you Dawgs. Yep, yer 6-4 against us this decade. Gotcha. Having said that, the only score of the 6 that is considered an ass-whipping is the 41-14.

Now let us ponder 51-33. 51. In Athens. I believe we spotted you 21 points, decided it was high time we took over Sanford, and won going away.

I now proffer 35-14. If there was anything you can call a run of the mill buttkicking, this was it. I believe this was the season you were declaring you could beat Hawaii in the AM, then LSU in the PM. I see 35-14. I believe you would be wrong.

Last, but certainly not least, I give you 45-19. Your defense got Jonathan Crompton paid by the Chargers, and I’m sure he appreciates it! And the Jawja offense? 2 field goals. Never crossed the Tennessee 30 yard line.

So I’ll let 41-14 and 35-14 cancel each other out. When you Dawgs put up 51 in Neyland, OR keep us from crossing the 30 in Sanford (oops, Neyland South), then you can bark. Until then, HEEL! Good Dawg.

just wondering

June 9th, 2010
3:47 pm

are nash and rogers a ” couple “???????????

gdawginkalamazoo

June 9th, 2010
4:22 pm

Dawg Trainer, you won’t see this fan running smack on UT for those reasons. We didn’t even get off the damn bus for those games. That 07′ game kept us out of the SECCG and possibly the NC game. Hopefully the bulldog staying on the porch will over with and we will be competitive against UT in the future. I hate it, I hate that you spell it out that way but the truth hurts.

gdawginkalamazoo

June 9th, 2010
4:28 pm

Bulldog59, good post at 8:50am. Knowing Richt being quiet is the best policy. It doesn’t matter how high the kid scored on his SAT or how many stars he has. Has to be more to the story. Like you say unconditional release and he goes to Colorado? Nothing against Colorado mind you but there are higher ranked, high exposure programs that could use somebody that good.

squat

June 9th, 2010
6:00 pm

nance get used to riding that pine….u will never play in the sec..

Dawg Trainer

June 10th, 2010
10:36 am

gdawginkalamazoo…you’re a true fan. My snide remarks aren’t meant for fans like yourself. FWIW, looking back at 2007, we were the spoilers for you guys, and we really and truly lucked out in at least 3 of our wins.

bitter RAY GOOFF

June 10th, 2010
1:38 pm

all this talk about replacing m.r. has taken alot of the hate mail away from me. thanks to the bulldawg nation for hating somebody besides me!! p.s. i think i was as good as wally butts? what you think???

a.c.c. is # 1

June 10th, 2010
9:49 pm

bulldogs are a poodle team

a.c.c. is # 1

June 10th, 2010
9:52 pm

tech is a much better team,,,georgia should jump to the big east cause maybe they could win a game or 2

'94 UGA Grad

June 11th, 2010
8:36 am

Hey Sam,

You hit the nail on the head. Well said. These kids get a quality education for free and then have the audacity to complain and criticize their coaches because they aren’t performing well enough to start.

wildbill

June 22nd, 2010
5:43 pm

I keep hoping for miracles re the dawgs. I hope everyone in the dawgs camp, from Richt to the water girl has an epiphany, and they all come out growling and gnashing their teeth for a great season and top tier bowl. Will it happen? We will see what we will see………..