Sometimes fans are right and coaches are wrong

Mark Richt has admitted the Georgia coaching staff was wrong to try and make Richard Samuel a tailback. (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

Mark Richt has admitted the Georgia coaching staff was wrong to try and make Richard Samuel a tailback. (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

OK, we’ve established that I’m part of the vast majority of Bulldogs fans who support Mark Richt and think hot-seat talk about a coach as consistently successful as him is ridiculous.

But, as also has been established many times in the past, that doesn’t mean I think Richt is always right. On matters ranging from Willie Martinez to directional kickoffs to various decisions over who should be starting and who should be riding the bench, I’ve been among many fans critical of Richt in the past (and, conversely, encouraged by off-season moves he’s made this year to address some of those problems).

This raises an interesting point, however, about college football fans discussing their favorite teams. Every time I write something even remotely critical about the Georgia coaches or players, not only do I get my loyalty to UGA questioned by a few unnamed folks, but someone invariably puts forth the idea that if you haven’t played or coached college football, you have no right to voice an opinion.

OK, besides being downright un-American, that premise ignores the fact that most sports columnists have never been coaches. Most movie critics have never acted on the screen. And so on. …

And fans, who support the programs with their money, should be able to critique what they see on the field.

Yet even Richt, generally the most reasonable of men, ventured briefly into this territory last season when he got all prickly about some media criticisms and made his infamous statement that “if you’re a leader or a player and you are brave enough to be in the arena, there’s going to be people outside the arena that want to throw things at you and say things about you. But there’s honor in being in the arena, and a lot of people don’t understand because they’ve never been in there.”

The main problem with that idea is that often the collective wisdom of the folks sitting in the stands proves to be on the money.

David Hale of Bulldogs Blog touched on this recently when he noted that Richt had admitted to mishandling Richard Samuel by insisting on trying to make him into a tailback when all evidence pointed toward him belonging on defense, one of a number of instances over the past couple of years where Richt and his staff seemed a bit wrongheaded and inflexible.

Summed up Hale: “For all the ‘never been in the arena’ talk from the head coach, it sure seemed like the folks on the outside had a lot right. The fans understood the defense was headed in a bad direction, and the result was five games in which UGA allowed at least 34 points. Fans knew the kickoff strategy was flawed, and the result was a loss to LSU because of a bad kickoff late in the game. (And, to be fair, a ridiculous penalty on A.J. Green.) Fans knew that personnel changes needed to be made, and while Bacarri Rambo helped save the Auburn game, far too many big plays also occurred while Bryan Evans chased futilely after a receiver destined for the end zone.”

It’s reasonable to conclude that had those changes been made, Hale said, Georgia might have won at least 10 games last year.

And, he noted, “the problem wasn’t so much that fans recognized those problems last year. It was that they recognized them in 2008, when Georgia actually did win 10 games. And like with the Samuel situation, Georgia’s staff knew better and stubbornly stuck to philosophies that utterly frustrated fans.”

Hale goes on to point out that just about all of those complaints now have been dealt with by Richt. Which means we have good reason to believe things are back on the upswing in Athens.

I’m not deluding myself into thinking that Richt was swayed in any way by what my blog or anyone else’s had to say about his decisions over the past two seasons, though I do think the overall fan consensus on Martinez needing to go was a factor in that decision.

But I do think it’s fair to say that there have been instances where those of us outside the arena have made valid points about changes that needed to be made.

So maybe there’s some value in what we do here beyond the obvious enjoyment we all get out of discussing them Dawgs.

203 comments Add your comment

AltamahaDawg

May 19th, 2010
10:44 pm

I think Hale is one of the better writers covering the Dawgs, but this was pure fluff. Not ever really sure what the point is. Football fans are very informed and opinionated these days. Obviously they can witness, comment, and claim to be “right” about a number of things that they didnt like. Basically anything that doesnt lead to a decisive victory every time out on the field for thier team is “wrong” and they say so. And since winning is the object , of cource they were “right”. Duh.

But fans can fling a bunch of stuff against the wall and see what sticks. I think where Hale misses is that he categorizes a disagreement between the coach and fans, when that might not even be the case. Its more likely that its just and entirely different matter to make observations about something not working well and having to actually make changes (the option perhaps ever worse and fans no way to know that).

One thing worth mentioning is that the oft-critisized “kickoff stategy” had nothing to do with the failure on that LSU example. If anything THAT one would be the worst possible example of what folks were complaining about in a high directional kick. (A complaint BTW that outlived itself the majority of the 09 season as they had long since stopped doing that except on rare occations) He wiffed trying to use that as an example of what folks had been saying. In all fairness Bill King had been complaining about poor coverage and tackling, which is the LSU example, But thats NOT what Hale was saying is the flawed “strategy” that the fans were suposedly “right” about. Poor tackling is hardly a startegy that anybody was stubbornly clinging to.

As far as Evans, nobody was more critical of him on game day than my gang. But one has to wonder if having first year players around him had something to do with not wanting one more frosh on the filed at the same time. Also just because Rambo came in late in the year in limited duty and (no surprise) made some plays, is far from saying. See we said he should have been starting. Plus, they did bring him in, right. So how is there any right/wrong?. One thing I know for sure, Evans wasn’t playing simply because they could “see” what we were from the sidelines. It’s a far more logical conclusion that there were factors we just can’t know (and maybe even would disagree with even if we did) but its outright silly to say the coaches were unaware of the his results because of some tunnel vision. And its a major leap to say we know what some other results would have been.

This is like saying, that fans were right about not turning the ball over, or having a good running game too.

And Bill come on, the amount of folks who question your fandom when you say something remotely critical is like , what? 3 idiot? Leverage that with the multiple times a day when somebody blows a gasket if anyone ever says anthing remotely positive. I mean we have sort of ridden that oversimplification of blind homerism into the ground haven’t we?

robdawg08

May 19th, 2010
10:45 pm

I’m sure of 4 things about Mark Richt :

1)Joe Cox was not good enough to be the starter at UGA
2)Richt does not manage the clock and timeouts wisely
3)Richt does not show any fire or emotion on the sideline
4)Richt does not try to outscore teams by a wide margin in the first half of games and teams usually come back and either win or almost win

Hiram Dawg

May 19th, 2010
10:51 pm

Fans are the consumers of the college football product. Dawgs have a lot of ‘brand loyalty’, but that doesn’t mean the product is flawless. CMR definitely has gone off on strange tangents from time to time. Directional kicking. The uniform change at last year’s florida game. Playing Joe T ahead of Stafford, or Thomas Brown ahead of Ware or Knowshon. A seeming inability to get penalties under control. Using Logan Gray as a punt returner. But Richt is a very good coach when he isn’t so stubborn.

AltamahaDawg

May 19th, 2010
10:51 pm

Beating florida doesnt have a darn thing to do with “perspective”. It’s called having a better football team, and that has not been the case. Nobody but Auburn beat UF in the past many years more than once either so appearantly “perspective” is pretty hard to come by.

Bama Fan

May 19th, 2010
11:17 pm

AltamahaDawg,

We’ve beaten Florida 4 of the last 6 meetings including 3 blowouts and 2 of those blowouts were suffered by Urban Meyer 31-3 to a Mike Shula coached Bama team in 2005 and of course last year 32-13. So the idea that nobody has beaten Florida more than once lately except AU is simply not true.

Ole Miss has beaten Florida 3 of the 4 times they played in the 2000s.

MISS St has beaten them 2 out of 5 contests in the 2000s.

Its only the dawgs and the east division teams that seem to have a problem beating Florida.

Also I suspect the dawg losing to them is more mental than physical and eventually they will break through mentally. For now Florida just has a kind of mindf*$k on the dawgs.

bufbox

May 19th, 2010
11:22 pm

evans wasn’t totally surrounde by frosh … Prince miller and Reshad Jones were both veterans.

FLA DAWG

May 19th, 2010
11:23 pm

Some of us were calling for Martinez departure 3 years ago – we were right.
Samuel showed promise at RB but didn’t step up – not Richt’s fault.
Bobo has been an OC In Training and should have been released before Martinez. Bobo hasn’t the experience to OC in The SEC and we’ve said this for three years.

This season sets Richt up for the following year. If he fails to produce (and I don’t see how he can with a new QB and D) then the next year his rear will be heated.

FLA DAWG

May 19th, 2010
11:25 pm

Bama Fan,

Try playing them EVERY YEAR IN FLORIDA and then tell us what your win / loss record is.

Bama Fan

May 19th, 2010
11:46 pm

FLA DAWG,

Your point is illogical. What does that matter? We’ve played them 4 times in the last 5 years and split and we beat them the 2 times before that. Why would it be any different playing them every year?

minnesota dawg

May 19th, 2010
11:52 pm

We all know that hindsight is always 100%. After a coach tries something and he suceeds, he’s a genious. If he fails, well, we all knew that it wouldn’t work didn’t we? I like your articles, Bill. It’s a balm to this Minnesota DAWG.

dagnabit

May 20th, 2010
12:14 am

Joe Cox played better than the support around him last year. It was the defensive coachs who were fired.

Jefferson Davis

May 20th, 2010
12:17 am

Georgia has always been a mid-pack SEC team which randomly wins a SEC crown because of talent. They feel 10 win seasons and a bowl game constitutes a great season. NC’s aren’t a factor with most Georgia fans. So it’s understandable that Dawg Junkyard and most Ga backers are very happy to have Richt and keep him till he retires.

Foot Note:

The boys in Athens and around South Georgia deer camps have complained loudly the last two years about UGA’s tough, tough schedule. The addition of Arizona State suddenly made Dawg backers everywhere squeal about the unfairness of the schedule. Think about that–Arizona State–a .500 club in the weak Pac 10.

You have to go back to 1965 to find a worthy opponent played outside the southeast by Georgia. Fla, LSU, Bama and UT have all played many tough teams away during that time.
For example a few teams played by Bama during the same period: Oklahoma, Missouri, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Penn State, UCLA, BYU, FSU, Southern Cal, GT, Clemson, Virginia Tech.

uggadogg

May 20th, 2010
12:17 am

fans that want BoBo fired are a super majority and right again
Fans that think the Forida game should be in Athens every other year
are right. The Athens businesses and all the local economy need more
home games

RED DOG 77

May 20th, 2010
12:37 am

Mark Richt being the coach of “my ” Georgia Bulldogs makes me stand just a little taller with pride. Yes, coach Richt puts his players on the field, they are the “product”, we, be we grads or just simply fans of our team are the consumers. With that said, sure, it is the very nature of the game to cheer a good game and be frustrated when we lose, but I understand the coach when he talks about not being in the arena ! and thus not completely understanding the very nuts and bolts of the game !!!……………I played the game of football from the time I was about eight years old until an unfortunate injury kept me from realizing my dream of trotting out onto the sod of Sanford stadium………All I ever wanted to do was play football for Vince Dooley, and mabe, just mabe have a crack at the likes of “Bear” Bryant……..But it wasn’t to be. I never questioned, I just played my best. One of the greatest lessons I learned from the “Grand” game was team-work and chemistry, the way the ball bounced was never predictable, that it was indeed a game of inches, and that often “luck” did play a role in how the game or in coach Richt’s case goes, the season went………Coach Mark Richt is in my opinion the greatest coach in the nation…………..he is also probubly the un-luckiest !!! 2010 brings a brand new season, one with great potential, lets those of us citizens of BULLDOG NATION……..just hope that the ball will bounce our way this year, because we have the talent, and “Ol Lady Luck”…………will be kind to us, and coach Richt !!! GO DOGS !! GATA SIC’ ‘EM WOOF……….WOOF………WOOF………WOOF !!!!!!!!!

yeehaw8687

May 20th, 2010
1:53 am

I think this is a great article and you guys would lay off bill’s back. We fans do see things sometimes that isn’t as evident to the coaches. For example how many many F****** times do we run the draw on third and long. For Christ’s sake, throw the D*** ball, or run a play that will get the yards. In the last two years (after teh departure of Mikey) how many times do we return the God foresaken punt. And most of all Mark, when are you gonna show some passion for the game and get fired up when your team does something great. Emotion and passion are contageous and lead to better play. Ask Saban and Carrol and Meyer and heck even ask Miles if he could keep up with clock work. Richt is a good coach ( not great ) and he has turned the program uspide down in a good way but he still has flaws that he might not recognize that fans could help out with. Fans keep up the fire and passion and keep him on his heels. As for that (off discussion) I like the hot seat discussion to keep him on his feet. As Saban always states “We expect to dominate our oponents.

BuLLdawg

May 20th, 2010
3:00 am

Gut wrenching losses in the Coach Richt Era.

Our success in the Coach Richt Era has been against teams in the middle.

Our failures have been not only to lose to 8 of the 11 Top 10 Final AP Poll opponents we have played since Coach Richt got here, but even more importantly for the 8 losses to teams not ranked in the Top 25 Final AP Poll.

And, there is no question that for all our success in the first 5 years of the Coach Richt Era, we have absolutely dropped off the face of the map in this second 5 years of the Coach Richt Era, this season up-coming 2010 included.

28 games where we scored no more than 2 touchdowns in the Coach Richt Era, and we lost 23 of those. So, it has not been the defense. It has been the offense.

The fumbles, the interceptions, the penalties, coupled with the off-field issues of being # 9 in The SEC in football graduation rates in the Coach Richt Era according to the latest 2010 release by the NCAA and the 39 arrested / suspended in just the last 3 years according to David Hale macon.com have left us entering 2010 with Coach Richt admitting that the offensive coaching staff is just simply unable to seemingly do anything right.

Coach Richt last month said he was taking over complete control of the offense. He is going to do this while he tries to do something about 2-7 vs. Florida in the Coach Richt Era. He is going to do this while he tries to help Mike Bobo prepare a quarterback for next year. He is going to do this while he also personally takes over recruiting offensive players, especially in this state, where in 2010, we failed to sign this state’s offensive stars, who seemingly have made a huge statement to everyone that there is something rotten about our offense, mostly playing favorites instead of the obviously better player behind him.

While we don’t seem to be able to teach wide receivers a thing here.

While we don’t seem to be able to teach running backs a thing here.

While we don’t seem to be able to teach quarterbacks a thing here.

BuLLdawg

May 20th, 2010
3:04 am

38-14 the last 4 years has put UGA # 19 in the nation over these last 4 years.

Success is what we enjoyed prior to that.

We “KNOCKED THE LID” off this program Coach Richt announced in beating # 4 Final AP Poll Tennessee vols in 2001. But, we lost 4 games 2001 including Boston College who would not have been ranked had they not beat us, South Carolina where we scored 9 points total, Florida where we scored 10 points and gave up 24 in a blow-out, followed by the loss to an also ran Auburn at Home. Pardon me, how is that knocking the lid off the UGA football program ?

2002 we scored 13 points against South Carolina, followed that up with just 18 against the vols, and amassed only 13 against Florida in that 13-20 loss where David Greene converted zero of 13 third down conversions. 0. Our offense has been the issue from the get-go.

2002 why did we lose to Florida ? Because of our offense. How can you score 13 vs South Carolina, 18 vs the vols and 13 vs Florida, 3 SEC East Opponents we just have to do well against to get recognition outside our own division of our own conference, let alone the national stage then being awarded a great football opponent to beat in a big huge national stage bowl game – a win against a Top 10 Final AP Poll team in the last game any season – a big bowl win over a Top 10 Final AP Poll team. We have never done that in the Coach Richt Era.

14-game seasons nowadays.

38-14 the last 4 years, good for only # 19 in the nation for UGA.

52 wins the first 5 years, but only 38 the last 4 years.

BuLLdawg

May 20th, 2010
3:07 am

2004, don’t forget David Greene’s horrid senior season. We have been ranked preseason at the top of the polls, or at the end of the season we would not have been ranked at all, beating NO ONE.

The hobnail boot win 2001 David Greene never duplicated it. Not 1 other game against any Top 10 Final AP Poll team did David Greene beat. Not 1 other after that his redshirt freshman year.

No year has Coach Richt beat both Florida and the vols.

8 losses in 9 years of the Coach Richt Era to-date against teams not ranked in the Top 25 Final AP Poll.

Great year 2002, with 3 games of no more than 2 touchdowns and we won 2 of those bailing the offense out.

2002 two teams went coast to coast all season long. Georgia was not in that. We had played 3 games on national TV scoring 2 touchdowns all 3 games, and the pitiful overthrown pass to Terrence Edwards wide open in Jacksonville over the middle to win the game, typified our offensive game play 0 for 13 on 3rd down conversions in the game. Our reward for these 3 nationally televised games of 2002 where we scored only 13 points vs South Carolina, only 18 points vs the vols and only 13 points against Florida was to play a 5-Loss Florida State Creminoles team in an after-thought bowl game that year. There were several undefeated teams and we pulled out of our offensive hat 3 games of 13, 18 and 13 points. No we were not national champions and we were not unlucky. We had a poor offense. Your memory is fuzzy. Mine clear.

2003, we followed that up with 3 losses. You can whistle in the night that we won 11 games in 2003 all you want. We scored 13 points in The SEC Championship Game and were BLOWN OUT on national stage by LSU 34-13. It was devastating.

13 points SEC Championship Game, gave up 34 in 2003.

10 points vs LSU at their house with David Greene meekly fumbling the football.

Our defense gave up only 17, and we LOST in Baton Rouge too 10-17.

Our defense gave up only 16 to Florida in JAX and we LOST that one too in 2003.

BuLLdawg

May 20th, 2010
3:12 am

2003, was by all measures a poor offensive team, too.

11 wins ?

We played 14 games.

That is 3 losses. LSU in Baton Rouge, Florida at JAX, and LSU in Atlanta.

Our reward on the national stage for these devastating 3 losses ? Purdue Bowl game, whoop-tee-do.

2004 David Greene’s senior year, we lost to the vols and to Auburn.

10 wins 2004. I am supposed to be oh so damned happy about 10 wins 2004 ?

Our offense absolutely got worse in 2004.

13 points vs Marshall, you have got to be kidding me. 20 against South Carolina, 14 vs the vols, 20 vs Arkansas, 6 against Auburn, and 19 points against Georgia tek. God Almighty.

Our problems are and have been ON OFFENSE.

Not Defense.

10-wins again in 2005.

I am supposed to be consoled by that.

pcsjax1

May 20th, 2010
4:32 am

Mark Richt’s own words he should be held responsable. In the Gladitorial “Arena” , the gladiator must win to live! So be it for Mark Richt! The “Bar” in the SEC has been raised. Now he must win “Championships Plural” to stay at the table with LSU,Florida and Alabama.

chazzo

May 20th, 2010
7:08 am

A coach listening to fans?????? LMFAO. To which ones should he listen? A coach can’t be a leaf in the wind, folks. Sometimes fans are right????? Which ones? And, there aint a darn thing a Coach can do with fan advice after the fact. I think Richt needs to be more like Dick Chaney or Bear Bryant when it comes to fans. We just aren’t that darn important.

Buckhead Bulldog

May 20th, 2010
7:18 am

A fan, sometimes also called aficionado or supporter, is a person with an intense, occasionally overwhelming liking and enthusiasm for something. Fans of a particular thing or person constitute its fanbase or fandom. They often show their enthusiasm by starting a fan club, holding fan conventions, creating fanzines, writing fan mail, or promoting the object of their interest and attention.

Buckhead Bulldog

May 20th, 2010
7:18 am

Fans usually have a strong enough interest that some changes in their lifestyles are made to accommodate devotion to the focal object. As well, fans have a desire for external involvement – are motivated to demonstrate their involvement with the area of interest through certain behaviors (attending conventions, posting online, etc.). Fans often have a “wish to acquire” material objects related to the area of interest, such as a baseball hit by a famous slugger or a used guitar pick from their musical hero. As well, some fans have a desire for social interaction with other fans. This again may take many forms, from casual conversation, e-mail, chat rooms, and electronic mailing lists to regular face-to-face meetings such as fan club meetings and organized conventions.

There are several groups of fans that can be differentiated by the intensity level of their level of involvement or interest in the hobby (level of fanaticism)[1] The likelihood for a subject of interest to be elevated to the level of fandom appears to be dictated by its complexity. Complexity allows further involvement of fans for a longer period of time because of the time needed to work the subject of interest ‘out.’ It also contributes to a greater sense of belonging because of the mental effort invested in the subject.

AltamahaDawg

May 20th, 2010
7:22 am

I didnt say “surrended by frosh”, I said we had first year player around him. Not just at DB. Not just at defense. And Rambo, would have been one more of them. More importantly, I don’t recall anybody mentioning his name till late in the season. “Evans aint’ getting it done” is far from fans knowing what to do.

Buckhead Bulldog

May 20th, 2010
7:22 am

Sooooo…..CMR should embrace us! : )

FLA DAWG

May 20th, 2010
7:37 am

Bama Fan,

Play Auburn at Auburn every year for the next twenty years then comment here about logic. To believe it makes no difference is illogical and just plain dumb.

oledawg

May 20th, 2010
10:51 am

Why should the writers’s and a few fan’s criticisms of Richt be taken more seriously than fan’s criticisms of writers? We are outside reading your writings and you should be open to criticism as well. Just call us writing consultants who can see more clearly about your writings because we are more objective. Haven’t seen where you or other writers have appreciated “objective” (no such thing exists on blogs) criticisms of your teleological thinking and unobjective arguments. If you were objective, you would have copied some of the irate replies to Hale’s article instead of tryting to shore up and bolster a poor article about Richt and those Monday-morning-QBs who assail him. Why is a writer’s opinion more pertinent, objective or correct than the fans replying to it?

None of you writers can ever admit that your opinion is wrong whereas the readers and/or fans can see it from the git-go. You accused Richt of being “whiny” about the schedule last year, but you fail to mention that it could have something to do with the down year. Nope, all you guys see are the after-the-fact criticisms as the reasons Richt has done what he normally does and pat yourself on the back like the self-righteous hackers that you are. Objective my butt!

38 Yardline Dawg

May 20th, 2010
10:53 am

A lot of the opinions posted here are flawed by an apparent lack of memory. For example, Samuel was tried at running back because we needed better running backs (before that kid Moreno got the ball). Samuel played last year at RB because nobody was stepping up and being the main ball carrier. Now that we have 4 strong running backs, Samuel is better used in the new defensive scheme (which he played in high school, but UGA did not play since he arrived).

However, regarding fans’ opinions and the advantage of hind-sight…our coaches DID have the hind-sight of problems in 2008 (penalties and poor defensive coaching, for example), but it still took another entire season before changes were really made.

Bottom line, I like Richt and my money still goes to support his coaching of my team. But he will never make tough decisions to better the team as fast as Meyer & Saban. We’ll just have to catch FL and AL on an off day or something to beat them.

PowerDawg

May 20th, 2010
10:58 am

Congratulations, Bill. You get to be BMOC for a day.

Comment or opinion, fine.

Criticism? No.

A critique requires expert knowledge of a system or procedure and it’s application during specific scenarios.

That movie critic crap won’t wash.

Regardless of their title, they simply watch others do something and write their opinion about whether they liked it or not.

You might know a little about the game or even a lot about our program. None of that makes you qualified to tell someone how to do something you have never done yourself.

Yeah, yeah…I know. Contributing fans want a bang for their buck. I don’t blame them because I’m one of them. But my money and support entitle me to an opinion and nothing else.

Fans who have never attended a game but dutifully watch the Dawgs on TV every saturday, wear their UGA apparel, and put that logo on their car window…deserve the same as those of us that sit in the same seats every game. We all deserve a quality product on the field.

But do we have the level of knowledge required to think we know more than those on the field?

Not no, but hell no.

I built a pretty nice treehouse for my kids. Doesn’t make me qualified to build a high rise condo complex. Or to question the guy who has been doing just that for twenty years.

Sorry, Bill. Just because you and some of the fans were right about a couple of things doesn’t make your resume for the next coaching vacancy all that attractive. Not at all, really.

oledawg

May 20th, 2010
11:02 am

Alt-

Let’s get outta here and go fishing for the rest of the summer. These hacks don’t know any more about football than you or I do except we can admit it!

oledawg

May 20th, 2010
11:07 am

Sic’em PowerDawg!!

Jroc

May 20th, 2010
11:20 am

“The main problem with that idea is that often the collective wisdom of the folks sitting in the stands proves to be on the money.” Dude…I don’t know where you sit, but the obnoxious rednecks around me seem to think we live in the 1980’s and that we need to (and I quote) “Run the damn football” well that was genius! Considering that 1…you have to PASS to open the run and 2…you have to RUN to pass. Anyone who played football more than one season in high school knows this but yet our redneck fan base thinks everyone is Herschel Walker and our line can block for him. So in short…you’re wrong! You gray haired; been sitting in the same seats since 1895 are WRONG! Go home and watch it on TV! We’re tired of your crap! If you’re older than 35 you shouldn’t be allowed to show up unless your going to CHEER not complain and tell everyone else how YOU could do it better!

TybeeDawg

May 20th, 2010
11:52 am

Bill, you never seem to have an original idea for a story. All you EVER do is read other journalists’ columns and then rewrite it (barely). Can you come up with your OWN story/idea just once?????

how2fish

May 20th, 2010
11:58 am

BuLLdawg and I mean this with much love and respect…I just wish you would go away..pull a St.Simon, a Amelia Earhart,get lost like the lost colony of Roanoke..just GO! I’m sure you a great person , love your kids , a good provider and husband and a hell of a dancer…but you write the most long winded,disturbed drivel I have ever read. Please for the love of the Bull Dog Nation…take a vacation or better yet switch teams..I hear the Bugs need some more doom and gloom.

Top DAWGS FAN #1

May 20th, 2010
12:15 pm

We as DAWGS fans do have a right to say our opinions but opinions are like butt holes we all have one and they all stink!!! Now let CMR do his job and we as fans should do ours and that is to support him and the team. Thank you and have a wonderful and blessed day.

lionel hutz

May 20th, 2010
4:06 pm

Even a blind squirrel every once in awhile finds a nut. A stopped clock is right twice a day. You can’t try to make a point of fandom’s successful ideas without also analyzing the number of times the coaches were ultimately right to ignore the fans’ advice.

GaDawg

May 20th, 2010
4:41 pm

NOW THIS IS A POWERFUL POST…….somehow, I don’t believe that STEINER is your typical blogger. Those words are too insightful, too full of emotion, and so very articulate.
I think that it would be a good idea for all of us to make a copy of the following words, save them in our document file, and refer to them every time we think about posting a comment. I, like so many others, needed to hear these words. Accentuate the POSITIVE; Eliminate the NEGATIVE!!! Back our Coaches, Back our Dawgs come Hell or High Water!!! Awesome, I feel like we just had a Visitation!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…….DAWGS!!!….SIC’EM!!! Do you remember?……..

STEINER
March 20th, 2010
2:24 pm

Sometimes I like to read your blog, Bill, then other times I think you are a “POT STIRRER”….You’re like a lot of UGA fans, when the Dawgs lose a couple they are favored in, its time to question or run off the coaches…But then when they do good and end up #2 in the nation, we want to get on the “love train.” I’m with the coaches and the Dawgs in either situation, cause I know the coaches involved and know they are doing the best they possibly can….GOT A LITTLE DEAL FOR YOU BILL THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ, HERE GOES: It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

GoGators!

May 20th, 2010
6:11 pm

Going to be a long season for the Doggies.

savannadawg

May 21st, 2010
12:12 am

O.K. folks. gonna give it too you strait up. The coaching’s been ok. Granted at UGA with the money we have, higher quality should have never been the problem. The FACT is this. We never had the right # of players in the right places at the right time. And the quality of those players have been better in the past. There is nothing special about Floriida’s players except their SPEED. Which has been a lot better than ours as of late. And, the fact that they can fail a drug test without consequences dosn’t hurt. lol. When you lose games because the team can’t replace a player it looses. That one player is way too valuable. And that means the stock hasn’t been replenished. That “stock” is the most critical part of a successful program. GOT TO HAVE THE BODIES. periiod. This year will be the first in a while were we will see this come to fruition. But we cannot be imbellished to believe we have turned a corner just because we play Florida close or even beat them. All people I ever hear talk about is Ga. pride. We’ll I havn’t seen much of it lately. It is time to get it back. And I mean in a BIG way. We don’t just need to G.A.T.A. We need to put some nails in some coffins. Get a chip on the shoulder and keep it there for ever and here on out.

PTC DAWG

May 21st, 2010
12:16 am

Re the comment about Miami firing Coker…and how he deserved it…exactly what has Miami done since then?

AltamahaDawg

May 21st, 2010
6:14 am

Good Job Bama Fan. Its so damn difficult to get any kind of a real debate going in here. I appreciate being corected whenever possible. I am either always right or nobody ever cares what I say. I think the first and since I am, I must be right on that too.

I did say “many years”, so I stand corrected but I was actually only thinking about the past few 3/4. If you go back into that fime frame you are refering to, even the Dawgs have beaten UF twice. I tend not to worry too much about the early part of the decade. (and certainly not before than) If there was a mental deal going on then, that understandable from a guy who had been head coaching all of a couple of year in his life. I sincerely do not believe that is the case lately. UF have just plain been a better team and beat UGA as they have most everybody else too, which is the point I was tryign to make.

Really LSU would have been a good example to correct me more than the others you mentioned.

papadawg

May 21st, 2010
8:22 am

Ther is notning wrong with trying out players at new positions. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t but you don’t know unless you try. I like Coach Richt as a person but I think his loyaty to his coaches have burned him but with the recent firings I hope he’s made a turn for the good. I know he’s a fine Christiian man but football at a major College is a BIG Deal and I think sometimes he’s just to soft to his players & coaches

chazzo

May 21st, 2010
8:26 am

I recommend everyone watch the movie Hoosiers. There is a wonderful dramatization about fans that know better.

HanDAWG

May 21st, 2010
10:12 am

What an utterly boring, solipsistic non-story. Since we are so way into the offseason that this type of “journalism” is all these so-called major media pundits have to offer, I decided to instead post a historical analysis of UGA football versus World Cup soccer. Found some fun facts for you to give your soccer friends: http://www.bighairyblawg.com (the trademark and copyright owner of the word that I created in the sports’ lexicon, “BLAWG”)

Preston

May 21st, 2010
3:23 pm

Duh. The coaches are human too.

Hey GaDawg...so you like that quote du ya!!

May 22nd, 2010
8:06 am

GaDawg post of the following…
May 20th, 2010
4:41 pm
NOW THIS IS A POWERFUL POST…….somehow, I don’t believe that STEINER is your typical blogger. Those words are too insightful, too full of emotion, and so very articulate.

” It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles,…”

Might want to read some more of quotes from the source…just go to Google and enter…”Theodore Roosevelt Quotes”…it will have the one above that you favor so much, plus a whole bunch more.

KimZ's Package

May 22nd, 2010
10:22 pm

I made Charlie WARD a Heisman Trophy Winning NBA Point Guard. I raised Chris Weinke to be a 30 yr old QB with the BASEBALL ARM. I tought those guys how to be HEISMAN WINNERS. I am as good as Dale Earnhardt JR. I look damn good, you UGA sheep buy the crap I sell on TV, and I win just enought to make you think I an worth all my money. Don’t forget My water Girl is Hot and I am married to her.

KimZ's Package

May 22nd, 2010
10:26 pm

Don’t listen to me because I threw rocks at Christ as he carried his cross to die on. Richt however is not God Christ or a good SEC coach.

Joe 5-Star Recruit

May 22nd, 2010
11:17 pm

Long as Coach Rich lets me grow out my long corn rows, and lets me dance on the sideline to MY KIND of gansta rap no matta the score, and makes sure to visit me when I am in the Clarke County Jail….I’m good.

We good. Coach Rich, he my dawg. We good. We good.

daddo

May 22nd, 2010
11:21 pm

He is the fool that put a redshirt on No Show. Nuff said.