Could Gray staying at UGA be a turning point for Dogs?

Logan Gray putting the team first might pay off down the road. (Associated Press)

Logan Gray putting the team first might pay off down the road. (Associated Press)

The reality for Logan Gray is that, barring injury to someone else, he’s probably not going to get a whole lot of playing time at either quarterback or receiver.

And yet he decided to remain a Georgia Bulldog. And that’s great news.

In part, Gray’s decision should be welcomed because of the depth Gray adds to both positions. Mark Richt said on Wednesday that in his mind Gray is the second-team quarterback. Whether that remains the case after true freshman Hutson Mason arrives on campus and Gray spends most of his practice time on receiver remains to be seen, but having an emergency signal-caller who has some game experience can’t be a bad thing.

As for receiver, what are Gray’s chances of passing some of the six current players at that position on the depth chart? Early on, probably pretty slim. But as people get dinged up and Gray gets the routes down, who knows? He didn’t get much of a chance last season to show us what he can do, but I recall a couple of G-Days ago when he impressed quite a few folks with his running. Maybe if he gets a shot in something resembling the old Hines Ward package he can finally live up to what was expected of him when he first came to Athens.

But even if none of that happens and Gray simply serves as “insurance” at quarterback and wide receiver, his returning to UGA might end up paying dividends in a more intangible sort of way. After a rash of folks leaving early for the NFL or throwing away their careers with stupid off-field behavior, we finally have a player putting “team” first.

Gray said he’s sticking at UGA “because I truly do love being a Georgia Bulldog. I want to be a part of this team getting back to the SEC championship game and winning it.”

Perhaps his selfless example will inspire others on the team to buckle down and think Bulldogs first. At the very least, Gray essentially ceding the starting quarterback job to Aaron Murray should allow Murray to settle down and quit pressing so hard, which seemed to be the reason for his disappointing G-Day performance.

Usually when a Georgia team has won the SEC in the past, you can go back afterward and see a moment when that team’s destiny took a turn. When they made the transition from a collection of players into a special team.

Maybe Logan Gray just gave the 2010 Dogs that moment.

OUT OF THE TWEET LIFE

I noted here on Wednesday some fan speculation that a recent Tweet by Trey Thompkins indicated some sort of crackdown on use of Twitter by UGA basketball players, and Mark Fox provided confirmation of that fact later in the day.

While Fox maintained that he thought recent Twitter postings by Thompkins and Travis Leslie were too personal and a distraction from focusing on what the basketball Bulldogs need to do this coming season, there naturally were a lot of folks wondering if maybe one of them had Tweeted something that displeased the coach.

Looking back over their Tweets in recent weeks, they’re mostly pretty innocuous. Thompkins offering Mother’s Day wishes, mentioning workouts with Leslie, bemoaning schoolwork (”Class, class, and more class…… SOMEBODY SAVE ME!!!!!”) and so on.

Leslie, who Tweeted more frequently than Thompkins, didn’t have much of interest to say, either, but he did have several Tweets in which he mentioned the he and Thompkins were hanging out at former NBA player Derek Anderson’s house. Maybe that’s what Fox considered “too much information.”

Regardless, it’s probably not going to hurt for Fox to tighten the reins on his two stars when it comes to Tweeting. And for fans it’s an encouraging sign that the guy who made the team run stadium steps last year when he didn’t think they were working hard enough in practice isn’t going to let any nonsense get in the way of his mission.

Well played, coach.

232 comments Add your comment

Tuckdawg

May 13th, 2010
11:43 am

Nice article bill GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!! GATA!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks for staying Logan it will benifit the whole team

Tuckdawg

May 13th, 2010
11:43 am

oh and First

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
11:47 am

I was thinking after reading this about Coach Richt’s record against coaches that have a MNC.

Urban Meyer: 1-4
Nick Saban: 3-3
Les Miles: 2-1
Steve Spurrier: 4-2
Phillip Fulmer: 5-3
Lou Holtz: 3-1
Bobby Bowden: 1-0
Dennis Ericson 2-0

Aside from Urban Meyer, whenever Coach Richt goes up against the best coaches in the business he usually wins (and we won’t count Tommy Tuberville, who Coach Richt went 5-3 against).

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
11:47 am

BuLLdawg (Thomas Brown) try to be more original from now on

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
11:48 am

It’s Mark Richt’s state. Paul Johnson is only living in it. Even Vince Dooley didn’t beat the Yellow Jackets at that torrid pace, and, after Bobby Dodd left the Grant Field sideline, he faced some Ramblin’ Wreck coaches a good deal worse than Chan Gailey.

nickz

May 13th, 2010
11:48 am

I like it…could be a great year for UGA Basketball.

If Thornton decides to come to UGA, it could be a big turning point in our program!

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
11:48 am

Coach Richt still can say that he is the only Georgia coach to have made it through nine seasons at the Red and Black helm with a winning record over the Crimson Tide.
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He is 2-0 in Bryant-Denny Stadium, a venue in which the Red and Black had never won prior to his arrival.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
11:50 am

Even in his worse year Mark Richt has led the Bulldogs to a win over their oldest rivals and a win over their in-state rivals (both of whom were bound for January bowl games), fired three members of his coaching staff, won a bowl game over an up-and-coming Big 12 team, hired Todd Grantham at the end of an exhaustive search for a new defensive coordinator, and gone outside his circle of acquaintances to hire Coach Grantham’s preferred secondary coach. Aside from one atrocious senior night between the hedges, it’s been all uphill since we hit rock bottom.

Me

May 13th, 2010
11:53 am

Logan Gray will probably be the starting QB by the middle of the season.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
11:54 am

In terms of “BuLLdawgs” (Thomas Brown) comments, I say thank you. Thank you for your dedication and daily concern for UGA.
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This guy wakes up every day thinking about UGA.
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That is so funny to me.
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What is more amazing to me is that you are only here in hopes of getting attention.
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that is pathetic.
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That obsessive behavior indicates just how superior you view UGA.

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You attempt to distract people from the topic at hand.
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Suggestion for “BuLLdawg” who blogs on a daily basis about UGA:

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“Please Notice Me” would be a better name.
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That would be a very fitting name because of your desperate need to get members of the CFB family to notice you.
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Before you refute that statement, ask yourself why you are not blogging on any other subject at any other time except about UGA.

he always posts these rambling, incoherent pieces that are nearly unreadable. I don’t really understand the purpose. It is to the point that I just think he was a bot or something because I couldn’t understand someone taking such a long time to craft something that no one was going to bother to read.
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You are so unoriginal and pathetic you will probably copy and paste that comment and subtly change the content to make it appear as your own work.

Lonnie

May 13th, 2010
11:59 am

Logan Gray will get playing time, he will have packages for him, he’s too good of a player to sit on the bench. He’ll make an impact on special teams, slot, wildcat, wr, and qb. He’ll be especially useful in the red zone, where we can put him in, let him run or pass. Also see him coming in on 3rd and short situations. This will keep Murray injury free, and let Logan display his skills. Really p[umped about seeing “The Logan Gray package”, gives defense YET ANOTHER THING TO PREPARE FOR besides EALEY/KING/SMITH, AJ/KING/DURHAM/WOOTEN, OLSON/WHITE/LYNCH, Murray, and now Logan Gray.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
11:59 am

Any fair evaluation of Coach Richt’s record nine years into his tenure, therefore, most begin with an acknowledgment that he has proven his willingness to make the changes that are necessary to restore the Georgia program to prominence. When even guys who hurl toasters off of balconies during Bulldog victories are urging patience, we need to give credit where credit is due. Mark Richt is a fine man, an excellent coach, and a damn good ‘Dawg.

That said, here is the tale of the tape on Coach Richt’s time in the Classic City:

Just three of Coach Richt’s 24 predecessors lasted as long as nine years as the head coach in Athens. (While Alex Cunningham technically was at the Georgia helm from 1910 to 1919, the Red and Black did not field football teams during the war years of 1917 and 1918, so Coach Cunningham oversaw only eight Georgia squads.)

Lonnie

May 13th, 2010
12:08 pm

Hey Yeah Whatever–

can you please TRY and make some of your comments relevant to Bill’s topic instead of your incessant trolling?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:09 pm

Lonnie….no.

I am merely getting a jump on everyone else that changes the topic eventually.

John

May 13th, 2010
12:11 pm

Bill-

If Murray goes down with an injury, we could look back and absolutely say this was the turning point in the season.

I think it also shows Richt is on his game this off-season, from rewarding the special teams walk on with a scholarship, to getting Lemay, to kicking guys off the team, to naming a depth chart so Murray could get more reps, the new recruiting strategy of sending all coaches to hit 300 schools, to keeping Gray, Richt’s made great moves this off-season.

Lonnie

May 13th, 2010
12:12 pm

Bill-

Can you please BAN Yeah Whatever for trolling, the guy’s a complete waste of time, and just stated he will troll and not respect your rules.

Thx.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:13 pm

Lonnie.You should educate yourself on what a troll is….here I will help

troll 2176 up, 373 down
buy troll mugs, tshirts and magnets
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. ‘you’re nothing but a fanboy’ is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments.

Did I attack anyone? Did I not listen to any of my peers arguments? (there has not been any so far today) Did i use a straw argument?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:14 pm

So, Lonnie, by definition you are more of a troll since you are stead fast in your attack on me and have not listened to me (a peer).

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:16 pm

Your comments lack substance (trolling) mine was full of substance. Who is the troll again?

Michael Scharff

May 13th, 2010
12:16 pm

Well, at least we still have Logan to perform fair catches on punt returns.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:19 pm

Lonnie…..you sparked an argument by use of “he is nothing but a troll”…which makes you a troll by definition.

Joe

May 13th, 2010
12:20 pm

I agree Bill, ban yeah whatever, he post off-tpoic, and disrespects you and your readers.

Dr. Phil

May 13th, 2010
12:22 pm

Patrick if you don’t CALM down, I am going to up your meds and restrict you to five minutes a day. I also warned you last night to quit obsessing about Mark Richt.

Tim

May 13th, 2010
12:22 pm

Yeah Whatever-

At 12:08, Lonnie asked you politely, to change your ways.

If you don’t Bill will ban you, you are breaking blog rules and a HUGE WASTE of my time too.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:22 pm

Now that we cleared that up Lonnie…care to make a substantive comment or would you care to continue to be the text book definition of a troll by your ad hominem attacks i.e. “he is nothing but a troll”?

11Dawg

May 13th, 2010
12:23 pm

Having Gray at wide receiver opens up the door for some great trick plays. Hopefully Bobo can take advantage of that.

O-Town

May 13th, 2010
12:23 pm

Ok, now we have someone acting like Dr. Phil. Ban them too, stealing identities is against the blog rules.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:24 pm

Tim…..you cant be considered POLITE while attacking someone as a troll.

Thirty Points To Your Twenty-Four Points

May 13th, 2010
12:25 pm

I like trasure trolls

Go Dawgs!

May 13th, 2010
12:26 pm

hey “yeah whatever” – get over yourself

The D

May 13th, 2010
12:27 pm

I am so happy to hear Gray is staying, I agree Bill, this is important for a player to put team first, and with Murray being small and injury prone, I am sure Gray will see some action at QB

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:27 pm

Nick

May 13th, 2010
12:27 pm

I agree

BAN YEAH WHATEVER—the guy is a total troll who doesn’t respect you Bill or anybody else here.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:29 pm

I wonder why only Fla fans or GT fans want me banned?

DawginLex

May 13th, 2010
12:29 pm

Agree with you bill, Logan staying is a positive thing to the football program.

I hope he gets a glory glory moment this year and realizes that his patience and hard work paid off.

Tim

May 13th, 2010
12:30 pm

Yeah Whatever-

When the guy says PLEASE in hias 12:08 post, that’s polite, and your response was “no”, you’ll continue posting off-topic, no respect for anyone here, which is reason for being banned.

Dan the Dog Guy

May 13th, 2010
12:31 pm

I’m a Dog fan, we want Yeah Whatever banned too.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:31 pm

Hmmm….so far the ad hominem attacks (trolling) continues from Nick..Joe..and Lonnie

calling someone names to spark an argument is the purest form of trolling by the way.

Dont like my comments about Richt’s success….dont read them

Go Dawgs!

May 13th, 2010
12:32 pm

“yeah whatever” – we Georgia Fans want you banned from this blog because you refused to stay on topic and went off on a tangent that did not belong on this forum. Find a blog that is relevant to your argument and post there, otherwise, stay on topic and get over yourself. Please!!!

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:32 pm

Tim…merely adding PLEASE while calling someone a name (troll) is not being polite. I could say PLEASE jump off a bridge…would that be POLITE?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:33 pm

Go Dawgs………”we” Georgia fans? Dont you mean “we impostor Georgia fans”?

Off Topic Guy

May 13th, 2010
12:35 pm

Ok, let’s all act like “yeah whatever”

What do you guys think about Obama? Let’s not talk about Bill’s topic, let’s talk politics instead.

Dr. Phil

May 13th, 2010
12:35 pm

Ban Patrick before he is discharged as my patient.

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
12:35 pm

patrick – I don’t use ‘MNC;’ I’ve switched to ‘National Poll Champions.’ May be a fine point, but reading that 124-page book convinced me.

Go Dawgs!

May 13th, 2010
12:35 pm

i guess “yeah whatever” is the all knowing Georgia. He apparently knows who is and who isn’t a GA fan. Fortunately, I don’t feel the need to justify myself to you.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:35 pm

I have been an active blogger for months on Bill’s Blog………I have yet to see a single topic not changed. Dont like the content of the comments section? Dont read them.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:36 pm

So you want to ban me? I will take my chihuaha little Wille M and go back to bed.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:36 pm

Go Dawgs…then say something positive about UGA…….

Tim

May 13th, 2010
12:36 pm

Let’s talk about the automotive industry, what we can do to turn it around.

Why discuss Bill’s Topic? Yeah whatever.

Off Topic Guy

May 13th, 2010
12:37 pm

How’s the weather today in your city guys?

Tim

May 13th, 2010
12:38 pm

Don’t like a troll blogging off-topic, suggest them for banning.

calidawg

May 13th, 2010
12:38 pm

Leave Mr. Patrick alone, he has made great strides in his therapy.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:39 pm

Now the “yeah whatever” from 12:36 is breaking Bill’s rules. He is stealing my name…Do you want him banned for violating policy Lonnie…Joe…Go Dawgs? Where is you righteous indignation over that violation…or do you merely pick and choose what violation you champion?

Go Dawgs!

May 13th, 2010
12:39 pm

Logan making the decision to stay is great news for us. It gives us more depth at both QB and WR. I am glad to see him put the team first.

Satisfied “yeah whatever” – now go back to bed

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:39 pm

Now I know why I moved from Georgia.

yeah whatever!= the Real Patrick

May 13th, 2010
12:40 pm

I bet it is Urban Meyer stealing my name.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:41 pm

Tim…I dont hear from you about Yeah Whatever from 12:36 breaking rules….where is your input? Shouldnt you (as a champion of Bills rules) be clamoring for his banning?

Cory

May 13th, 2010
12:43 pm

I would say Logan is a class act…..maybe just maybe….HE is the leader of this team- you dont have to be a starter to have a profound impact on a team- only time will tell but this could be the start. UGA football hasnt really had a true leader since David, David and DJ….which is one of the reasons for the lackluster play. we had a guy that was a great example of “SELF”….thankfully, he has moved on….

Off Topic Guy

May 13th, 2010
12:43 pm

Any of you ever eaten squirrell?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:43 pm

Well? Tim? Joe? Go Dawgs? Lonnie? There are 3 more name stealing violations? Where is all that energy you just wasted on me for them? LOL. Lets admit you are Fla or GT fans and get it over with. You dont like me proving Richt as the better field general and you know it.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:45 pm

the topic is about UGA….Is Mark Richt not the coach of UGA? How was me discussing UGA football on an UGA blog off topic? Just curious…please explain…seems like all of you wnet off topc discussing me.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:46 pm

Oh I get it….this is not really an UGA blog….how dare I post about UGA (Mark Richt) on an UGA blog…yeah dastardly

Go Dawgs!

May 13th, 2010
12:46 pm

“yeah whatever” – if your name was stolen, the ban them as well, as for your arguments regarding Richt, I actually agree with you, but this simply wasn’t the forum for it. Richt is a great coach and I hope he stays a very long time at Georgia, but that isn’t what this blog was about. Just stay on topic dude! Go Dawgs!

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
12:47 pm

Use of multiple screen names on the same email account can be easily blocked or removed.

Use of multiple email accounts is more difficult to spot and control.

Use of multiple IP addresses is really difficult if someone is using a proxy server.

I’m not sure the average troll is that smart.

Go Dawgs!

May 13th, 2010
12:47 pm

ok, let it go, i’m done with this one

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:48 pm

UGA blog

UGA comments

Yep off topic for sure

or

UGA blog

Comments about me

Yep comments about me is definitely on topic on an UGA blog….

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:49 pm

an UGA blog not the forum for discussing an UGA coach????? WOW what a stretch

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:51 pm

stay on topic…….UGA is the topic……….Richt is UGAs coach….yeah I was WAY OFF TOPIC on this blog

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
12:52 pm

I don’t usually cross post, but I think this is on-topic here. I posted it on Chip
Towers’ recruiting blog this morning.

Logan Gray is not the ‘threat’ to anyone who actually signs the paper for 2011. He should be established by then as backup WR and special teams player. Any incoming freshmen will be competing among themselves, with soph Aaron Murray, and hopefully redshirt freshman Hutson Mason. Of course walkons as well.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
12:53 pm

So to recap…I was talking UGA football on an UGA blog (dastardly)

Tim, Lonnie, Go Dawgs et al was discussing ME on the UGA blog (completely on topic)

I get it now. How silly of me.

yeah whatever!= the Real Patrick

May 13th, 2010
12:53 pm

Lets salute general richt he is the field general and I am the rear admiral

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
12:57 pm

It isn’t conceivable to me that CMR will use Logan Gray early in the season for anything other than victory formation snaps. Once Mason or one of the walkons has developed competence in the offense that may change.

cloudy

May 13th, 2010
12:58 pm

A turning point??? A sign of the times? A faux pas? A pig in a poke?
What a stretch!!!

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:02 pm

and finally, as defined, a troll uses ad hominem attacks to spark a argument off topic…hmmm lets see…an attack?

“He is a troll”…

an off topic lengthy argument sparked by that ad hominem attack? (the rather lengthy off topic debate about me)

hmmmmm who is the troll?

Paddy

May 13th, 2010
1:05 pm

Bill and others, I believe Gray will see more min than we expect. wr, dual threat out of the backfield, punt returns even, if we could get him to run instead of fair catch. But that might have been a coaching decision. Anyway, glad he stayed and he is a top athlete. I think it helped the program but a turning point, not so much.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:08 pm

The turning point? Cox not being there…Grantham being there…Murray being the starter…..Martinez getting fired.

A back up wide receiver? Not so much

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
1:13 pm

It could certainly be a turning point if looking back on a situation where Murray was injured. I guess that would be future hindsight.

Murray the midget

May 13th, 2010
1:16 pm

It was a turning point for me when Mett stepped on himself.

Bam-a-Gata

May 13th, 2010
1:20 pm

Turning point ?! The Dawgs were ALREADY going to win the SEC and National Championship. I guess now they’ll win the SUPER BOWL too.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:20 pm

Darn…this debate is no longer about me??? I am taking my football and going home

Sure patrick whatever you say buddy

May 13th, 2010
1:21 pm

yeah whatever,

You’re pretty good at stats. Can you do a statistical breakdown for us for Mark Richt. Break it down in 2 segments. The first being his first 5 years from 2001-2005 and the second tenure from 2006-2009.

The first 5 years were excellent when the sec was down and there was no Urban Meyer and Alabama was on probation.

What has Richt done in the last 4 years since recent history is far more pertinent than the early 2000s? What is the trend and general direction of the program over the last 4 years? That is what truly counts.

Is it true we are only 10-10 in the sec east over the last 4 years?

Is there a reason for all the humiliating blowouts where our team just up and gives up? 3 blowout losses to UT in the last 4 years 35-7 and 45-16 to the boy blunder, 41-17 and 49-10 blowout losses to UF, the embarrassing 31-0 halftime blowout on blackout night, how many embarrassing blowouts must we suffer?

Speaking of blowouts Richt is now 2-7 against Florida and 1-4 against Urban with several blowout losses. At what point will we have had enough? 2-8 overall and 1-5 against Urban. 2-9 overall and 1-6? 2-10 overall and 1-7 against Meyer? At what point do we get tired of not only losing to but getting blown out by our biggest rival? When is enough enough?

Oh yeah, how have we done against Kentucky the last 4 years? Freaking kentucky which ran our fans out of our own stadium last year? Have we had any embarrassing losses to Vandy or the chickens in the last 4 years?

Does our team look and play like a well coached team? How did we do last year in turnover margin? Can we blame that all on the now departed defensive coordinator since half of the turnover margin stats are attributed to our offensive play also?

Is it true that we were in the bottom 6 in the country in penalties committed? Is that the mark of a disciplined, well coached football team? Can we beat the gators playing sloppy, undisciplined football where we committ numerous turnovers and penalties? Can we even beat Kentucky with this brand of poor play?

Is it true that we are the runaway winners in the Fulmer cup awarded to the SEC program with the most arrests? I read something like 36 arrests over the last 3 years. Is that true. I know we’ve had a number of players arrested just in the last few months. Did Richt get the message through to our team after Mett got arrested and kicked off? When our backup punter got arrested a couple days later did he get the memo on not embarrassing us further?

Does it seem that Richt’s classiness and good Christian values are rubbing off on this team that probably leads the nation in arrests over the last 3 years?

Last are we currently in position to seriously contend for a national championship going into coach Richt’s 10th year which should be his golden age? Does anyone in 2010 seriously consider us as competing on a national level for bcs championships in the same way Bama and UF are? If not then why is it that going into Mark Richt’s 10th year we aren’t even on the radar as far as being considered a legitimate national title contender? To go along with that why is it that perennial top 10 recruiting classes are not translating into a bcs title contender this year?

I don’t want stats that make coach Richt look good from 5-10 years ago. Answer me this one question. Why is it that going into Mark Richt’s 10th year that this team is not a serious national title contender while Alabama and Florida are?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:30 pm

No Thomas Brown…

I am not breaking it down into 2 segments. Richt didnt leave and come back. His whole tenure is considered.
But if you go back to just the last 4 years Richt lead UGA to a number 2 final ranking (higher than any UGA squad in 30 years) and in 2008 he finished top ten with ten wins and a bowl victory despite 18 scholly players gong out prior to game three with season ending injury.

If that (over the last 4 years) is not a sign of a great coach what is?

Another Dawg

May 13th, 2010
1:31 pm

It’s hardly fair to say Kentucky “ran our fans out of our stadium” last year. What really happened was it was a dominant first half performance after a long day of drinking and a crappy night to watch us play mop up. Not saying we didn’t blow the mop up, but most fans were leaving at halftime and end of the 3rd because the game was over.

Downtown was already rocking by the time we got gingered in the 4th.

ol' seadawg

May 13th, 2010
1:33 pm

I agree with Lonnie, with Gray staying around there is absolutely no reason, why he can’t be set up with some with Hines Ward type packages and drive defenses crazy.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:36 pm

Not a national title contender?

UGA was in a better position to play in the NC in 2002 than Fla in 2006

UGA was 12-1 and a SEC champ and only needed OSU to lose its final game to get in.

Fla (Meyer) was in 2006 was 12-1 and a SEC champ and a number 4 in the BCS standing and needing both USC (at number two) and Mich (at number 3) to lose to get in

Meyer didnt have anything to do with Mich losing nor did he have anything to do with USC losing.

Richt had UGA in a better place in 2002 than Meyer had fla in 2006. OSU didnt lose but Mich and USC did.

Where is the other difference as it relates to being in contention to NCs? Answer me that.

Convienient with stats

May 13th, 2010
1:38 pm

Patrick is gay for CMR I think.

Convienient with stats

May 13th, 2010
1:40 pm

How about this stat Patrick unless you will ignore it as always: Richt has lost to Kentucky and FREAKING Vandy at home. To use your quote:answer me that.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:40 pm

How is USC and Mich losing in 2006 and USC losing in 2008 making Meyer a better coach at getting into NCs?

That is the only difference….What did he do?

Did he take Fla players to UCLA and change uniforms and beat USC? No.

Did he do it against Mich? No.

In fact Mich destroyed Fla the very next year in the bowl game.

To say Meyer has been lucky to get in is an understatement to say the least

Urban

May 13th, 2010
1:41 pm

Patrick, I would rather be lucky than good when given the choice. But I have been both!!

Willie the chihuaha

May 13th, 2010
1:41 pm

Patrick please come outside and play with me and my Urban doll.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:43 pm

Now Thomas Brown ( aka BuLLdawg) take your skewed pick and choose stats and go away.

Urban

May 13th, 2010
1:44 pm

Paddy boy, can you explain Richts stats against the gators since you love him so much?

yeah whatever

May 13th, 2010
1:45 pm

And Thomas Brown, quit sending my chihuahua pictures of Willie Martinez.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:46 pm

BuLLdawg..you ask what has Richt done in his last four years? Only taken UGA to a number 2 ranking in the AP final poll….better than ANY UGA coach since 1980…thats all…thats 30 years by the way

Dr. Phil

May 13th, 2010
1:47 pm

Patrick in our last session, you never explained why when I made the statement that a man’s choice of a pet is a reflection on himself. Why did you choose Willie the Chihuahua?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:47 pm

2 and 7 is not good…….ever heard of Achilles? Greatest warrior of all time? He had a bad heel….thats Fla (not just Meyer) to Richt….but you have to be an Achilles to have an Achilles heel.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:50 pm

Ok its been fun exposing BuLLdawgs real name and disproving his “last 4 years have not been good” myth (2007 is in last 4 years and UGA finished 2nd in the nation and most believe they were the best in the nation)

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
1:52 pm

But I need to go to Best Buy to pick up a 3D TV. See ya when I get back….just talk among yourselves until then LOL

Zeus

May 13th, 2010
1:52 pm

yeah whatever! I knew Achilles and Mark Richt is no Achilles!

bigdawg

May 13th, 2010
1:54 pm

@meyer

I love how UGA has ONE 5-loss season and everybody all of a sudden thinks the dawgs are completely finished when they still return 10 offensive starters including the best reciever in college football and are actually IMPROVING at quarterback.

who is the only team in the Eastern division expected to IMPROVE from last year…Georgia
UT and UF are predicted to have down years, (as delusional as you are you cant deny that you don’t lose Tebow, Cooper, Dunlap, Wright, Stamper, Spikes, Pierre-Louis, Haden, Moody, Pouncey among others and dont have a down year. as much as you brag about your freshman class lets face it it will be 1-2 years before half of them even see the field. and for Brantley, I wouldnt call one half against Kentucky and one game against Vandy SUFFICIENT game experience.)

bigdawg

May 13th, 2010
1:59 pm

@sure patrick whatever you say buddy

I find your point that Florida is our biggest rival interesting…

we may be YOUR biggest rival, but OUR biggest at least to me is either UT or GT

and yes I would have said that in the 80s as well.

The Urban legend

May 13th, 2010
2:02 pm

bigdawg,

The chickens are supposed to be improved given that they have 19 starters back. As for us we are not rebuilding. We are reloading and if you don’t believe that then take a look at our recruiting classes the last few years and look at our monster recruiting no. 1 ranked class coming in the fall. 3 of the top 4 rated defensive lineman in the country coming in the fall.

CHDawg

May 13th, 2010
2:03 pm

Great news. We need to use Logan at receiver and run him on a lot of end arounds, giving him the opportunity to run or throw. Rolling out is his strength and running is his big threat. Use him to enhance the team’s capability. That helps the dawgs, keeps him interested, and adds another threat package to the offense. It also gives him playing time with the ball in his hands, should Murray get hurt.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
2:07 pm

Big Dawg…I dont recall saying Fla was our biggest…

Zues…now THAT was funny

The Urban legend

May 13th, 2010
2:11 pm

“It’s hardly fair to say Kentucky “ran our fans out of our stadium” last year. What really happened was it was a dominant first half performance after a long day of drinking and a crappy night to watch us play mop up. Not saying we didn’t blow the mop up, but most fans were leaving at halftime and end of the 3rd because the game was over.”

“Downtown was already rocking by the time we got gingered in the 4th.”

No. What I’m talking about is the tv cameras and Buck Belue and the commentators talking about all the Georgia fans leaving midway through the 4th qtr when Kentucky took a one score lead. Buck was particularly disgusted because the game still hung in the balance. You’re saying that dog fans left in the first half because it was a blowout in Georgia’s favor and dog fans didn’t want to stay around for mop up duty as you call it after a day of drinking. I got news for you. That is a lie.

Georgia was never up by enough points for the game to be a blowout. How could the game ever have been a blowout if Kentucky tied it and then took the lead in the 4th qtr? Georgia might have been in the lead at the end of the 3rd but if so it was only by a couple points or by one td at the most. That’s not enough to be calling in the reserves for “mop up” duty.

Bottom line is that Kentucky started laying the wood to the dawgs, you quitter dog fans were being humiliated, and you up and quit on your time. Ask Buck Belue. He’ll tell you so as he was totally disgusted.

The Urban legend

May 13th, 2010
2:15 pm

Patrick,

Is Willie the chihuaha your dog or is it the “You quiero taco bell” chihuaha your dog? Hardy hardy har har!

Albert the Alligator

May 13th, 2010
2:23 pm

Bigdawg you might be returning 10 starters on offense but other than AJ and Orson the rest sucked so who cares if they are coming back.

17 of 20

May 13th, 2010
2:24 pm

Did you know that since 1980 when Georgia won their one and only National Championship they win 65% of the conference games they play in? This is good for 3rd place in the conference during that span of years.

The Ol Bawl Coach

May 13th, 2010
2:25 pm

Gray will be the starter after Murray throws 4 pics in Columbia because he could’nt see over the line.

Urban

May 13th, 2010
2:26 pm

Patrick I am not good at stats. Could you give me the breakdown on my SEC record as opposed to CMR’s?

The Urban legend

May 13th, 2010
2:43 pm

Patrick,

This is the other Urban. Can you also break down how many sec titles I have in 5 years vs Richt in 9 years?

Could you also break down how many bcs championships I have in 5 years vs Richt in 9 years?

Last, could you help me out on my head to head record vs. Richt?

Oh, one more thing. How many 13 win seasons have I had in my 5 years at UF? Is it 3?

How many 13 win seasons did Richt have in 9 years at UGA? Get back to me when you compile those numbers.

how2fish

May 13th, 2010
2:57 pm

Glad Logan is staying, he makes us a better team. I will be even happier when the season starts and STATS aren’t the only thing we seem to be able to discuss.

Brandon Spikes

May 13th, 2010
3:01 pm

I miss Logan already, he throws such a catchable ball.

how2fish

May 13th, 2010
3:07 pm

Brandon Spikes enjoy your cup of coffee in the NFL..you eye gouging piece of rotten Gator meat you…your a disgrace to the entire SEC? Have a nice day.

Brandon Spikes

May 13th, 2010
3:35 pm

how2miss

It will be enjoyable in the NFL, but I will miss not only Logan but Ealey who was man enough (unlike whining dawg fans) to say it was no big deal. It will be nice though when I play my buddy Tebow and can knock Knowshon on his back again. hahahahahaha this is so funny ridiculing pathetic pups.

DawginLex

May 13th, 2010
3:44 pm

Try not to get arrested Brandon.

Your gaytors are gonna miss Tebow too.

no Tebow=No title

how2fish

May 13th, 2010
3:50 pm

Brandon Spikes you’ll never make it on the field in a regular season NFL game..face it your slow,fat and without his linemen pulling him off off you Ealey would have stomped a county wide mudhole in your over rated butt..but I hope Tebow does well…he is everything your not.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:02 pm

The Urban legend
May 13th, 2010
2:43 pm

Patrick,

This is the other Urban. Can you also break down how many sec titles I have in 5 years vs Richt in 9 years?
=====================================

absolutely…in Meyers first 5 seasons he has 2 SEC titles

In Richts first 5 seasons he has 2 SEC titles

Next question

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
4:04 pm

Brandon Spikes needs to try it just once. Then, no more Brandon Spikes in the NFL.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:07 pm

the BCS championship you backed into due to USC and Mich losing (having nothing to do with you) you mean that BCS championship?

The one where you wer 12-1 and needing two teams to lose to get unlike Richt when he was 12-1 and needing one team to lose?
You mean that BCS championship?

Hey Urban…………remind me of how many SEC titles UGA has compared to Fla

Hey Urban remeind me of how many unbeaten untied seasons Fla has in its history

Hey Urban remind me of how Fla’s record is in bowls compared to UGA all time and in last 9 years and in last 4 years?

Get back to me when you compile those numbers.

I will help

UGA 12 SEC titles..Fla 8

UGA 6th best winning percentage in bowl in history…Fla losing bowl record

UGA 7-2 in bowls last 9 years…Fla 5-4

UGA has won four in a row…Fla 2 in a row

Next question

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
4:08 pm

Gray coming back will do absolutely nothing to help the dawgs beat Florida. Georgia will be double digit underdogs to the Gators with 2 and possibly 3 SEC loses. Until the dawgs cut Mr. Nice loose they will be average at best.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:09 pm

Oh I forgot….UGA has multiple unbeaten seasons to Fla’s ZERO

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
4:12 pm

Patrick, aka “yeah whatever!”, how did you get out of the mental ward
so soon. These are the same posts you have been making for a year and a half.
Go get a pill and chill.

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
4:14 pm

Either you are, or you’re not….

“No Thomas Brown…

I am not breaking it down into 2 segments. Richt didnt leave and come back. His whole tenure is considered.”

2:43 pm

Patrick,

This is the other Urban. Can you also break down how many sec titles I have in 5 years vs Richt in 9 years?
=====================================

“absolutely…in Meyers first 5 seasons he has 2 SEC titles

In Richts first 5 seasons he has 2 SEC titles

Next question”

Same question (please answer it this time; I’m curious now) -”Can you also break down how many sec titles I have in 5 years vs Richt in 9 years?”

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:15 pm

Gator bait…….same stats apply so its no use changing them unless you would like me to lie and change facts to support your version of reality

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:17 pm

Delbert………….Meyer has not coached 9 years…so to have a fair coparison you have to use his five years and Richts first 5

both have 2 SEC titles during the same time frame of the coaching tenure.

Is this that hard to understand?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:18 pm

Meyer has nt coached more than 5 years in the SEC I should say…beating up on mid majors dont count.

But if you look at entire record Meyer has 2 SEC titles in 10 years to Richts 2 SEC titles in 9 years

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
4:18 pm

Patrick, the only record that counts is Richt vs the Gators (2-7) and Richt vs Meyers (1-4)

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:22 pm

Surely you are not going to consider his 2 Mountain West titles when comparing the level of talent Richt has coached against in the SEC to Meyer first five years at B Green and UTAH

So to answer your question even better

Meyer has been a HC for ten years…he has 2 SEC titles

Richt has been HC for 9 years he has 2 SEC titles

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
4:22 pm

That isn’t, but the comparison you are avoiding (unusual, since you refused to split Richt’s tenure before) is what has Meyer done in 5 years and Richt has done in 9 years. Statistically, how many should Richt have by now based on his first 5 year’s accomplishments?

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
4:22 pm

If Alabama had its pick of coaches between Meyer and Richt, who do you think they would take—end of discussion.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:24 pm

Gator bait………I never said his record against Fla is good.

But his traditional rivalry Auburn and GT he is 14-4 Fla only recently became a rivalry

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:26 pm

Delbert
You cant compare Meyer and five years to Richt in 9 years…You have to use comparable time frame…Meyer has only been a HC in the SEC for five years…we dont know how he will do in his next 4.

So in the frame that is available…five years…Meyer has 2…Richt has 2.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:27 pm

Gatorbait 17-3
May 13th, 2010
4:22 pm

If Alabama had its pick of coaches between Meyer and Richt, who do you think they would take—end of discussion.
=================================

Really?

Nick Saban went 6-5, 6-6, 6-6, 7-5 at Mich St.

He went 8-5 at LSU 2x

He went 7-6 at Alabama.

Saban has gone 5-3 or worse in conference 8 times.

Richt has only gone 5-3 or worse in conference 3 times in his first 9 years.

Compare that to Saban’s record and consistency in his 1st 9 years.

Richt has NEVER had a 7-6 or 6-6 season, Saban’s done it 5 times, including once at Alabama.

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
4:27 pm

Patrick,

To say Meyer has been a HC for 10 years and only has 2 SEC titles is beyond stupid. You are truely nuts.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:27 pm

also, Richt is 3-3 against him

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:28 pm

ummmm he has been a HC for 10 years…and he only has 2 SEC titles….how is facts being nutty?
What was incorrect?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:29 pm

he was HC at B Green for 2 years…no SEC title
He was HC at UTAH 3 years…no SEC title
he has been coach at Fla for 5 years …2 SEC titles

10 years…2 SEC titles…whats nutty about the truth?

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
4:30 pm

Patrick,

What’s your point? Saban had nothing to do with my statement. Read this real slow———–IF BAMA HAD IT CHOICE OF HEAD COACHES BETWEEN MEYER AND RICHT, WHO WOULD THEY PICK———-GET IT NOW?

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
4:30 pm

I understand that, but it’s an unsatisfying answer to one who extrapolates based on previous results. But then again, I’m much more familiar with probabilistic assessments that have 1 in 10,000 / per year as a goal.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:32 pm

Meyer in ten years as HC he has 97 wins…less than 10 wins a year average

Richt in 9 years has 90 wins (that with a collapse last year) a 10 win average

Yep less than a ten win average is better than a ten win ave…How silly of me

How many of you have ever gone to

May 13th, 2010
4:32 pm

Amazing with this banter back and forth. UGA is just a school, like Auburn or Tech or Florida or UT or Ole Miss or LSU. Give me a break. Me thinks that the haters are JEALOUS.

Think about this: IS THIS all that you whiners have going on in your lives? I am retired and I STILL fill me day with other things.

I am convinced that 85% of you all have no job, no life, no education and sit and plink away all day long. Did any of you attend any major school? I will count U of W Ga too or Valdosta State or G Southern ……….did any of you??

If/When UGA wins or loses, we go home, re load and look forward to the next game. I have done this since the mid 1960s and I am simply not obsessed with this subject like you clowns. Get a life and go to college. geeeeeeeez.

Gooooooooooooooooooooooo Dogs. Sic em!

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
4:33 pm

Patrick,

When your doctors sees this post he is going to double your meds and take away all you computer time–

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:29 pm
he was HC at B Green for 2 years…no SEC title
He was HC at UTAH 3 years…no SEC title
he has been coach at Fla for 5 years …2 SEC titles

10 years…2 SEC titles…whats nutty about the truth?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:33 pm

Gaitor bait…other than backing in to a NC due to USC and Mich losing….Meyer has less than a ten win a year average

Richt has a ten win a year average

I believe ALA fans (since Richt is 3-1 against them) would pick Richt

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
4:33 pm

Jim Tressel has 4 NCs. Won on the field.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:34 pm

Gaitor bait…sorry facts dont support your reality….

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
4:37 pm

Delbert…no NC is won on the field…all are awarded…Since the BCS an invitation to play in that Bowl is awarded. Not “won”

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
4:39 pm

Yeah, I know. I read the whole 124 pages. But Tressel won 4 NCs on the field. Div. 1AA . Unfortunately he can’t ever repeat that at Ohio St., since the best he can do is a National Poll Chapionship.

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
4:45 pm

Patrick,

Why do conveniently forget that Meyer has 2 National Championships, Richt ZERO.
And don’t go whining about how Georgia was cheated out of their chance to go. The following year that were the consensus #1 and we all know how that turned out.

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
4:56 pm

Based solely on # of SEC championships won divided by opportunity in years as an SEC head coach,
the probability for Urban Meyer winning an SEC championship is 40% and for Mark Richt is 22.22%.

It’s not nearly that simple, but evaluating probabilities (or odds) that are frequently posted on thes blogs use such simple data for prediction.

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
4:59 pm

Hey Patrick you genius, since you are so in love with records, try this
one on pal. How many 13-1 seasons has Richt had in his last 9 years————ONE
1 OUT 9. How many has Meyer had in his 5 years? THREE, that’s 3 out of 5 years pal
How about 2004, his last year at Utah:

Overall
12-0 record
12 wins is the most in school history
First unbeaten, untied season at Utah since 1930
16-game win streak ties the school record

One last thing to keep you quite, he is the only coach in history to win 13 games,
in back to back seasons. Think about that.

DawginLex

May 13th, 2010
5:05 pm

No Tebow=no title

Wait and see.

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
5:09 pm

Brantley beats Georgia easily, and by the way the Gators won the National
Championship is 96 without Tebow-it can be done.

Brandon Spikes

May 13th, 2010
5:09 pm

Oh boy! We play 16 games in the NFL. That gives me several more games to gouge eyes. Woo Hoo! When’s the first game!

DawginLex

May 13th, 2010
5:21 pm

You mean 1996 when visor boy backed into the title by LOSING to your arch rival on the last game of the regular season? The lucking up and getting to play them again.

no Tebow=No titles

Write it down
book it
Bet the ranch
Bet the farm

Your coach isn’t even healthy enough to be coaching. He needs to stop before it kills him. Seriously. You don’t mess with that.

DawginLex

May 13th, 2010
5:23 pm

Tebow=Florida’s Herschel

You might not go 20 years like we did but it’s gonna be awhile.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
5:26 pm

I didnt forget about Meyer and 2 BCS titles…I clearly pointed out that he had no more to do with getting in than Richt had being left out…both needed circumstances out of their control to happen. One got it..the other didnt..thats the only difference

and did you really just use Meyer’s mid major record to compare a nine year tenure in the SEC ?Really????

In ten years (half against subpar competition in a mid major confeence) Meyer averages 9.7 wins a year

In the hardest conference in CFB and there for 9 years Richt has managed to average 10 wins.

10 wins a year average all the while in teh SEC is MILES better than 9.7 a year when half was against the likes of Kent State, Miami of OHIO, Akron, Eastern Mich, and Northern Ill.

I mean he couldnt average ten wins against those guys and Richt has a higher average over the same time coaching in the SEC against ALA, Auburn, Tenn and AZ St, FSU, VT etc etc etc.

Puhleese

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
5:28 pm

I am really impressed with backing into a NC because another team lost and his awesome record against Akron….yeah he is da bomb

Lance

May 13th, 2010
5:35 pm

You guys should know by now, yeah whatever likes to troll, he does not like to stay on focus with the blog topic. He tries to thwart theblog writer’s purposes.

Ok, back to the topic for the real bloggers.

I would say it’s one of many turning points Richt has made during this off-season, the firing of his 3 defensive coaches being the biggest one, but yes, if Gray beats out Murray and has a huge year, or if Aaron get injured, it was a big turning point.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
5:38 pm

Lance…….UGA blog……Richt is UGAs coach……not off topic.

Now you using an ad hominem attack “He is a troll” hoping to spark an argument not related to UGA (me being a troll) makes you the very definition of a troll.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
5:39 pm

the topic of an UGA blog is UGA…not my being or not being a troll. Since you just did what you accused me of doing (going off topic to discuss me) makes you a what?

Tide Rising

May 13th, 2010
5:41 pm

Gatorbait 17-3,

Who would Bama fans choose between Meyer and Richt. I genuinely admire Richt as a coach and as a good Christian man. And us Bama fans for the most part root for Georgia in the east over Florida and UT. UT we hate as our 2nd biggest rival and Florida we have to pull against because they’ve been so dominant for 20 years. We need the dogs to try and counterbalance Florida’s power in the east.

But I digress. Back to your question. 99% of Bama fans would much rather have Meyer. It aint even close. The remaining 1 % we would just beat them up for being stupid. Its nothing against Richt but to me how do you argue with 2 bcs titles in 5 years and a 3rd year of finishing 13-1? How? Their is no argument. Meyer is hands down a more successful coach and that doesn’t even factor in his building of the Utah program into a formidable football team.

I like Richt and I’m pulling for him to get it together and present at least some semblance of a challenge to the gators in the east. I’m especially pulling for them this year since if we win the west it would be especially difficult to beat UF once let alone twice in one season if we win the regular season game. Beating UF twice in one season is a lot to ask so I would rather play UF once and then play Georgai in the seccg.

I just don’t have any confidence in Richt anymore. I think his window of opportunity was in the early 2000s when we were decimated from probation and UF had the Zooker. As it stands now that window has closed. Its clear to me that the dogs program is in major decline. The team completely lacks focus and discipline not just on but also off the field. As for recruiting Georgia has had good classes but lately the gator classes especially this year have been nothing short of incredible.I hope I’m wrong but probably not. I just don’t see Richt ever beating Meyer again and while Richt will hold onto his job this year and win 10 games because of an easy schedule that division will be dominated by UF for years to come. Sorry if this offends dog fans. Its just the way I see it.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
5:50 pm

Tide Rising……show me the poll that you used to reach 99%

Oh you cant? I wonder then….did you just completely make up a stat…we are trying to be factual in this debate….save your personal feelings on the matter…show the poll or admit making it up

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
5:52 pm

so 99% of you would pick Meyer.

Richt is 3-1 against you

Meyer is 1-2 against you

Meyer is under ten wins a year on average (half was against Akron and the like)

Richt is at ten wins a year on average against the SEC

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
5:52 pm

99% of you not y’all…you

O-Town

May 13th, 2010
5:54 pm

Lance-

I agree, Logan could be a big turning point, but it depend son what he does this year.

Einsteindawg

May 13th, 2010
5:54 pm

Bill, thanks for your article and I know it’s difficult to come up with a challenging topic each time, but…………….. Logan Gray staying at UGA and being a turning point is like giving a walk-on (although they deserve it) a scholarship and it being a turning point. A real turning point would be for Richt to admit that he needs help. Just my opinion.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
5:55 pm

how do you argue with 2 BCS titles?

How did he get there?

What did he do differently than Richt to get there?

Both were 12-1 and a SEC champ and needing help to get in by a team (two for Fla) on the last week losing.

Meyer didnt beat USC or Mich…did he?

tinyness.

May 13th, 2010
5:55 pm

amazing, yet again, how florida and alabama fans LOVE to comment on uga sites.

Guys….we know of your teams greatness. National championships galore.
Heisman Trophies….star coaches….

Your constant blathering on how UGA will always be crushed under the greatness of your teams is the internet equivalent of men who drive outlandishly big trucks or really really expensive sports cars….it is usually to make up for deficiency in other areas.

As for LG being a turning point? I will say that it is nice to see SOMEONE being unselfish and thinking TEAM first. I don’t know if that will translated to wins….ask me in December….

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
5:56 pm

so you are saying Meyer getting a NC by default (someone else doing something to put him in) makes him better than Rciht…who needed the EXACT same thing to happen?

Gatorbait 17-3

May 13th, 2010
6:04 pm

Patrick,

Yeah, Tide Rising probably did pick that number (99%) without a poll, he was only trying to emphasize how stupid you statement was that Bama would pick Richt because he is 3-1 against them. You truly don’t get it do you? Only an idiot would pick Richt
over Meyer

Tide Rising

May 13th, 2010
6:08 pm

yeah whatever,

No poll. Totally my opinion and not factual but it seems to be shared by just about every fellow Bama fan that I know. If you could in fact take a scientific poll though I think its pretty obviously our fans or any other team’s fans would vote overwhelmingly for Meyer, particularly in light of his 4-1 record head to head over richt.

As for Florida or anybody getting lucky to get into a national title game its a silly point. For that matter any team that starts out ranked #3 or worse is lucky because in order for them to eventually move up to #2 the teams in front of them have to lose. Looking back at all the teams that started the season ranked in the mid to late teens and won a national title by moving to no. 1 or no. 2 you can make the argument that they were all lucky that the 15 or so teams in front of them lost so that they could gradually climb the rankings. Its an absurd point really.

true tide fan

May 13th, 2010
6:08 pm

I dont think want a guy that complains of chest pains only after losing his bid at a NC and considers quitting because of a loss…or a guy that dresses down a reporter doing his job…or a guy the lies to each employer saying I am staying no matter what then up and leaves as he did at B Green and Utah.

Naw I will take Mark anytime

Ben

May 13th, 2010
6:09 pm

Wow, your homering knows no bounds. Logan Gray is a complete bust. Period. Our coaching staff has a serious problem in the talent evaluation dept. Total whiff on gray. We watched joe cox for 4 years in practice and thought he could play? He had the arm strength of a high school sophomore. I wonder how many walk ons saban has offered in his time at bama? I bet the answer is zero and we give out three in one week. I’m fed up with the gimmicks,blow outs and overall softness of the program. You’ve got to be mean and nasty to win in the sec and we’re neither. Keep writing puff pieces…

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don't take no jive!

May 13th, 2010
6:11 pm

Patrick, I think we’ll agree that we’re glad you love coach Richt so much. I have one question for you though. If Richt is as great as you say he is, then why do you have to get on every blog you can find everyday to sell his accomplishments and try to tear down the accomplishments of his rivals?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:11 pm

well well well…..

I see there is at least some intelligence coming out of the crimson state.

Not to mention a better winning aver in games per year…in bowls… and more top ten finishes 6-3

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:12 pm

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don’t take no jive!
May 13th, 2010
6:11 pm

Patrick, I think we’ll agree that we’re glad you love coach Richt so much. I have one question for you though. If Richt is as great as you say he is, then why do you have to get on every blog you can find everyday to sell his accomplishments and try to tear down the accomplishments of his rivals?
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If by “tearing down accomplishments” means posting facts then what would you have me do…lie to make their reality fit?

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don't take no jive!

May 13th, 2010
6:14 pm

Why not just say that the best team won? That’s how I feel about Bama last year. They beat my beloved Gators and desrved the trpohy. You still didn’t answer my question. Nice dodge though.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:15 pm

Fact………Meyer didnt do anything more than Richt to get invited to a BCSNC…both HAD TO HAVE a team ahead of them lose on the last week….

should I change the reality by saying Meyer used the Jedi mind trick on USC to have them lose to UCLA?

Me

May 13th, 2010
6:16 pm

Patrick…why don’t you use you’re real name. You’ve done on here before. Is it because people have caught on to you’re tired act and you have lost all credibility??? Even Dawg fans are sick and tired of your statistical spew.

Tide Rising

May 13th, 2010
6:17 pm

yeah whatever,

Come to think of it perhaps I exxagerate. You might get 10% of Bama fans who would rather have Richt over Meyer. But that would be because a lot of Bama fans admire and respect Richt because of his Christian values and the fact that he’s a very likeable man. But going solely on record, accomplishment, head to head, bcs titles, etc. Meyer wins hands down. Why is that so difficult for you to accept?

If 90% of dawg fans told me they would prefer Richt over Saban I would have no problem with that. Saban is gruff, all business and not a friendly, personalable guy like Richt. That’s fine with me. I don’t care. All I care about is that he put us back on top, he’s restocked the talent base, and that he runs a disciplined program where only 1 player has been arrested in the past year. I’m more about the discipline of not having guys continuously getting arrested and embarrassing our program than anything else and so I’m fine with Saban even if does agitate the news media people.

You’re happy with Richt who I think is a fine coach. Good for you. I like Richt also. I just think Meyer is a much better coach and between the 2 I would take Meyer in a heartbeat. No reason for you to get upset about it.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:17 pm

Why do I get on these blogs?….I sat here for months listening (reading) to half truths and outright lies about records and Richt ability…I could not take it any more and decided to correct the misinformed. How am doing? Can you point to a SINGLE error on any comment I made?

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don't take no jive!

May 13th, 2010
6:17 pm

Fact….Meyer won his division, conference and the NC.
Fact….Richt did not.
Still dodging the question. If he is so great, why do you feel the need to try and sell him like a telemarketer?

Me

May 13th, 2010
6:18 pm

Or maybe Patrick you can just use your initials…P.M.S. Says it all, doesn’t it??

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:18 pm

If by “being upset” you mean posting fact…..then I am upset.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:20 pm

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don’t take no jive!
May 13th, 2010
6:17 pm

Fact….Meyer won his division, conference and the NC.
Fact….Richt did not.
Still dodging the question. If he is so great, why do you feel the need to try and sell him like a telemarketer?
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in 2002 UGA won its division and conference and needed OSU to lose

in 2006 Fla won its division, conference and needed two teams to lose (Mich and USC)

No difference

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:21 pm

So Richt didnt win his division or conference in 2002???? Well then…who did? LOL

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:23 pm

both needed help on the last week of their 12-1 seasons to get in

Myer averages 9.7 wins a year against teams like Akron

Richt ave 10 wins a year all in the SEC

Richts squad has finished top ten 6 times

Meyer’s squad has finished top ten 3 times

No contest

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don't take no jive!

May 13th, 2010
6:24 pm

Patrick, you will never sell EVERYONE (especially rivals) on ANY coaches ability. Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion. Mine is that Richt is too soft to win it all. He can change that and I think he is trying to (finally). The fact of the matter is that most of his damage was done when the SEC was somewhat watered down with Shula at Bama, Zook at UF and UT on the delcine with Fulmer. Once again, I think he can change that beacuse UGA is a great school, tons of fan support and an excellent area to recruit from. He just needs to instill more discipline and accountability.

Me

May 13th, 2010
6:25 pm

Man, who is selling who like a telemarketer?? That’s what they do, get on the phone talking crap at 90 miles an hour about how they’re pproduct does this and that while not getting to the bottom line. You know, the bottom line… Richt 1-4 against Meyer, 2-7 vs Florida. NO…Not bringing up something he did 5 or 6 or 9 years ago in order to “sell” your story. You know, beating around the bush to make the sale…like a telemarketer.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:26 pm

last week of 2002 Richt and UGA was ranked 3rd in the BCS needing OSU or Miami to lose

Last week of 2006 Meyer and Fla was ranked 4th in the BCS and needed 2 of three teams to lose (Mich and USC did)

Did Meyer use teh Jedi mind trick on USC and Mich causing them to lose? If not then he had no more to do with getting in than Richt did on being left out

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:27 pm

Ok I answered your question…answer mine…did Meyer use the Jedi mind trick on USC and Mich?

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don't take no jive!

May 13th, 2010
6:27 pm

Patrick, as I said earlier, the SEC was watered down in 2002. Still was in 2004 when Auburn went undefeated. I’m not saying that either one of those teams couldn’t have won the big game. They didn’t get the chance because thier conference wasn’t as strong. When Richt can do it with Saban at Bama and Meyer at UF then trust me he’ll get his chance. So far, he has shown that he can’t compete on the same level with those teams…..and it’s gotten worse the last 2 years in a row.

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don't take no jive!

May 13th, 2010
6:29 pm

No mind tricks. Just crystal trophies!

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:29 pm

SEC was watered down????

simply by you saying it does not make it so…

also, UGA was 3rd in the BCS on the last week of the season REGARDLESS of whether the SEC was or was not watered down and had OSU lost (like USC and Mich in 2006) UGA would have gone to the BCSNC

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:31 pm

so how was he responsible more than Richt for getting in the BCSNC to get that trophy if he had nothing to do with Mich or USC losing with the exact same record and teh EXACT same circumstance needed?

How is he better at getting a NC than Richt when both needed a team to lose that they didnt play?

Tide Rising

May 13th, 2010
6:32 pm

yeah whatever,

I think we’re all in agreement that everybody is happy with Richt as your coach. Most dawg fans are still happy with him. I’m happy with him cause I like the guy and think he’s a good Christian man. I follow the dogs secondarily since I’ve lived in Atl for 20 years. And the gators are happy with him because they differ with you on how good a coach he is and they want him to be around a long time. If I were a gator fan I guess I would be happy too and I don’t say that as a smart aleck. I say that in the same way that AU fans loved Mike Shula and were hoping he would be the Bama coach forever. Richt just has to prove the gator fans wrong in their giddiness over having him as coach at UGA. And if Richt is as good as you think he is then I’m certain you’ve no doubt that he will turn the tables and begin immediately dominating Meyer the same way Meyer has dominated him. So everyone likes him and wants him to remain at UGA albeit for different reasons. Peace and love. I’m out.

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:33 pm

in 2002 the conference being weak or strong had nothing to do with it…OSU not losing did…UGA was 3rd in teh BCS and OSU was 2nd…. separated by .75 points. Had OSU lost UGA would have been in. No SEC team has ever lost a BCSNC and last I looked UGA is in teh SEC

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:35 pm

So your entire premise is that Meyer is better at getting into a NC due solely on USC losing? How did Meyer get USC to lose? What did he do directly to control that?

NOTHING

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
6:36 pm

Tide Rising…he is not good because I say he is, he is good because of his record.

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don't take no jive!

May 13th, 2010
6:46 pm

Patrick, everyone agrees he is a good coach. I haven’t seen many disagree with that statement other than a few rivals rubbing it in last year and a few disgruntled Dawgs. But I have to disagree with you about Richt being on the same level as Meyer or Saban. I fell that until he can win a NC he doesn’t deserve to be in the same class with them. Both have won 2. For that matter, even on the same level w/ Mack Brown, Pete Carroll, Spurrier, Miles, Tressel, etc. They’ve all achieved the highest accomplishment that a HC in Div 1 football can on the field. That’s just my opinion, but it is shared by many.

Tide Rising

May 13th, 2010
6:56 pm

yeah whatever,

Agreed. Richt has been a good coach because of his overall record. Be happy with that and let it go with all this ranting about how the gators won bcs titles in 06 and 08 cause they “got lucky and we didn’t”. All that matters is that at the end of a complete season when all the dust had settled Florida was no. 2 in the bcs both years. USC losing in the last game of the season as opposed to losing in the 5th game or 8th game or last game doesn’t matter. All that matters is that when all the games were played out UF was no. 2 in the bcs. As for 2002 if you wanted into the bcs title game you should have taken care of business and beaten UF rather than hoping that OSU would lose. An unbeaten sec team would have gotten in over OSU so its your fault that you didn’t take care of business in a year when 2 other teams finished unbeaten. And don’t blame them getting into title games and you not on “luck”. It just makes you look like a sore loser. Dis time I really am outta here!

kb

May 13th, 2010
6:58 pm

If at times you ignore stupidity, It’s lack of attention will cause it to fade away. This refers to the blogger who continues to crave for attention with an array of silly posts. After reading a couple of his posts, I’ve learned to just bypass them altogheter.

patrick

May 13th, 2010
7:26 pm

Tide rising…..actually it would have no effect if UGA beat FLA in 2002 as OSU was not only ahead of UGA at the time of the FLA game but OSU played (and beat) a top ten and a 11th ranked team after the fla game and UGA finished only playin only oneranked team (24 Auburn). No way UGA jumps over a team that beat two top eleven teams in the final five weeks of the season. UGA (like FLA) needed OSU to lose.

17 of 20

May 13th, 2010
7:38 pm

Did you know that since 2001 Georgia wins a conference game 69% of the time? Florida wins 75% of the time and that includes the 3 years of the Zooker.

KM

May 13th, 2010
8:02 pm

LG staying being a turning point that leads to an SEC title? Put down the booze old man. If UGA wins the SEC this year, it will be behind great OL play, a solid running game, and AM not giving games away. So basically the Bama ‘09 blueprint. I guess they actually had a defense though……

If LG gets significant playing time this year at QB or WR, UGA is in trouble.

delaGATOR

May 13th, 2010
8:02 pm

Just how tall [or short] is Murray?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
8:12 pm

17 of 20
May 13th, 2010
7:38 pm

Did you know that since 2001 Georgia wins a conference game 69% of the time? Florida wins 75% of the time and that includes the 3 years of the Zooker.
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did you know UGA finished top ten 6 of those years to Fla’s 3?

Did you know UGA won 7 bowl games to Fla’s 5?

Delbert D.

May 13th, 2010
8:47 pm

Beware of multiple handles.
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Chip Towers

May 13th, 2010
2:36 pm

“Al E. Gator” and “dave” are the same person using different handles to talk to themselves. FWIW. . . . He also goes by “Bama Stan” and “Hokie Man.”
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Joe 5-Star Recruit

May 13th, 2010
8:48 pm

I would HATE to play basketball at UGA and deal with the coach who won’t let me tweet.

I am glad to be on the football team, where we can grow our corn-rows out, dance to our gansta rap on the sidelines no matta’ the score, straighten out our women when they need correction, get visits from our coach when we in the Clark County Jail, and enjoy our football coaches who know how to make it real.

Paul (You doesn't have to call me Johnson).

May 13th, 2010
9:02 pm

Great dialog between 17 of 20 and Yeah whatever. Eventually Florida may catch UGA in wins and SEC titles ( I doubt it ) I don’t think National Titles should be in the discussion since they are all mythical and dependent on luck. UGA had 9 SEC titles before Florida won its first and Alabama is more noted for its NCAA rules infractions and recruiting violations than its National Titles ( What were those titles anyway?) Florida has been on a good roll over the past 20 years. Can they keep it up?

But Richt needs to step it up. He has the best recruiting base in the country next to USC and Texas.
UGA has more players in the NFL now than any SEC school, more Super Bowl MVP’s than any SEC school ( Jake Scott, Terrell Davis and HInes Ward). With this kind of talent that UGA has first pick, it’s no wonder that they have ended up in the top ten more than any school in the SEC over the past 10 years.

YeahWhateverTheIdiot

May 13th, 2010
9:10 pm

And yes Richt did most of that damage with Jim Donnon’s recruits. He had one good year with his own and since then………….
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He has slid badly and needs to go. Why didn’t you mention he had the number one team in the nation and was scalded badly to Bama, UF, and even YECH! Why not mention his horrid losses to UK and UT last year???
He was very good several years ago but the fact is the SEC has upgraded. Spurrier is now at South Carolina where we can beat him. Saban has talent now unlike the years we creamed him. For all his glory he certainly hasn’t done anything against UF without being unprofessional and calling for the massed celebration (would that be a sin in the eyes of Christ?).

Setting the record straight. I personally was all for firing him last year, but if the DC position was turned down so readily by so many…maybe we better keep him or go hire Vince’s son. Nobody else worthy may want to come to Athens?!

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
9:11 pm

Actually LSU has 57 players in the NFL and UGA has 48 according to ESPN. But 48 is pretty damn good

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
9:13 pm

2005 Richt again won the SEC with his players and in 2007 Richt used his players and finished higher than any UGA squad since 1980…and you call me an idiot?

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
9:14 pm

2005 Richt won the SEC with Richt players not Donnan moron.

He also finished higher than any squad since 1980…you are truly and idiot

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
9:19 pm

In 2008 he finished with ten wins and a top ten finish and a bowl win WITHOUT Donnans players while 18 scholly players (HIS) were out by game three with season ending injuries. Now THATS a piece of coaching

Name another team in the history of CFB with 18 Scholly players out by game three with season ending injury that finished top ten with ten wins…I will wait idiot

Attn: Yeah, whatever

May 13th, 2010
9:21 pm

About Richt’s record vs Big NAME and MNC coaches, sir, you are so correct. He is fabulous vs them. Facts like these get in the way of saying ” UGA lost 5 games, so they are toast.” That might work for most major schools but ………… UGA is the ONLY SCHOOL to win 8 games or more over the last 13 years, with two coachces and soon to be 14 years.

UGA Detractors: Name one school other than UGA to achieve this milestone. Not one can y’all name. If it IS “no big deal”, then UGA is the ONLY SCHOOL to do that. Why are all the other schools “no big deal” and in fact, worse than UGA in achieving this “no big deal” status??? Think about that.

When I write these facts, no one is MAN enough TO CHALLENGE IT BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. One MNC does not make a program. Look at UT and say tech over the last 20+ years. The won it once then went underground for many, many years. Sad ………….no 8 or more over 13 and soon to be 14 years of WINNING> WINNING GAMES ands going to MAJOR BOWLS is the key.

Sugar, Cap One and Outback are UGA’s playgrounds. Urange Bowl once in 43 years is sadly, tech’s. I had one great time in Shreveport. Really fun with family there and playing golf.

Compare “8 or more over 13 years” to golf. Say a golfer novice hits a tee shot that in fact is a HOLE IN ONE. CONGRATS THAT DAY and maybe for a few weeks, depending on what golf club that you belong to. Then, over the years w.o. any significant wins or real great score cards ( like Tech ) you become a laughing stock ……..like UT and tech. AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHA

Season is fasssssssssssssssssst approaching fans. CPJ is in his 3rd year and every 3.5 years over the last 43 years, including Dodd, Tech’s coaches leave.

30-24 and it kills all my tech pals that we physically man handled tech with UGA’s worst team since Goff. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Marc G

May 13th, 2010
9:41 pm

Typical Georgia fan wishful thinking…

Lane Pimpin

May 13th, 2010
9:48 pm

All Logan will accomplish is to join the now growing group of UGA QBs who never beat UF during their career. Eric Zeier soon will be contacting Logan with a membership application. Dues are waive the first year for the career losers to the Gators.

Me

May 13th, 2010
10:20 pm

Well, it’s a little after 10PM and yes I did…I went back and counted how many posts this “yeah whatever” (AKA Patrick?) dude has thrown up (and I mean that literally) on this blog today and just a quick count yielded……91 POSTS!!!!!!! And that was just under THAT name alone. There were a few others that sure had a strong resemblance. Can we ALL agree that if you spend almost 10 HOURS consistantly spewing crap over at least 91 POSTS(!) on ONE BLOG…that you have used up your allocation and are DONE FOR THE YEAR!!!! Anybody else agree with that?? How about we form an alliance called the “Posters against Patrick” You know… “PAP”…after all his intials ARE P.M.S.!! We could call it a PAP smear campaign….

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
10:36 pm

Hey moron….I have a Droid that I carry with me everywhere that is full HTML compatible…maybe you should get out of the woods hick and realize this world has technology

yeah whatever!

May 13th, 2010
10:39 pm

U even know what a droid is?

Paul (You doesn't have to call me Johnson).

May 13th, 2010
10:42 pm

ESPN is wrong. Miami, 50, Ohio State 48, UGA 47 NFL currant players. LSU and Florida have 38 and Alabama has less than 30

Gator On The Loose

May 13th, 2010
10:48 pm

Turning point, Logan Gray staying, you gotta be kidding.

The QB situation is tenuous at best in athens. Let’s hope CMR can keep these boys off the police blotter – that first game is a nasty one :-) .

Me

May 14th, 2010
12:22 am

You need to put that droid down and go drive a truck or something………

[...] Logan Gray's decision will be a huge benefit for 2010 – as Bill King says: … as people get dinged up and Gray gets the routes down, who knows? He didn't get much of a chance last season to show us what he can do, but I recall a couple of G-Days ago when he impressed quite a few folks with his running. Maybe if he gets a shot in something resembling the old Hines Ward package he can finally live up to what was expected of him when he first came to Athens. But even if none of that happens and Gray simply serves as «insurance» at quarterback and wide receiver, his returning to UGA might end up paying dividends in a more intangible sort of way. After a rash of folks leaving early for the NFL or throwing away their careers with stupid off-field behavior, we finally have a player putting «team» first. [...]

Turning point?

May 14th, 2010
6:25 am

As a Georgia fan one has to look a little farther down the road to see a turning point than weather or not one guy chooses to stay or leave. One guy who may or may not have any playing time this year is not the guy to focus on when trying to identify a teams turning point. I will acknowledge a turning point for UGA when they can beat UF, UT, SC, Auburn and Tech all in the same year. That’s when change will have happened for UGA. Everything short of that will just be preseason excitement with a dash of hope.

James T. Kirk

May 14th, 2010
7:44 am

It is a turning point. A point in which the mutt nation realizes they are stuck with bottom tier thrower of the balls, while GT is blossoming with their thrower of the ball talent.

A turning point will be when you quit losing to teams like Kentucky and Vandy at home

May 14th, 2010
10:57 am

yeah whatever!

May 14th, 2010
1:54 pm

what the heck?

Dawg Rule

May 15th, 2010
4:30 pm

With gray staying and the new 3-4 D, the dawgs can make some noise in the SEC east this year.

ca dawg

May 16th, 2010
10:50 pm

it’s a very big deal that he decided to stay, imo. i like the versatility gray gives us at WR and the depth he gives us at QB; the fact that he can throw the ball with reasonable accuracy gives defenses one more thing to think about when he is on the field. they will be taxed as it is (trying to slow down king/ealey, charles/aron white, and aj green on the outside is no easy task), and having gray on the field will stretch them even thinner.