Sound off on Stafford’s legacy, mix-and-match uniforms, spring stupidity

Do you consider Matthew Stafford a Damn Good Dawg or just a talented guy who spent three years in Athens? (Associated Press)

Do you consider Matthew Stafford a Damn Good Dawg or just a talented guy who spent three years in Athens? (Associated Press)

As the NFL teams take their pick of the best of the nation’s college football players again, Dogs fans’ thoughts naturally turn to a year ago and UGA’s $41 million man, Matthew Stafford, going first in the draft.

Yes, a year ago the considered opinion of the NFL brain trust was that Mark Richt’s program had produced the nation’s best quarterback, which pleased most fans in red and black. And yet Stafford doesn’t seem to hold much of a special place in the hearts of a lot of folks in the Bulldog Nation.

My son was commenting the other night on the frequency with which you see Georgia fans taking shots at Stafford, who clearly isn’t viewed with anything like the affection folks have for SEC championship winners David Greene and D.J. Shockley or even earlier quarterbacks like Eric Zeier who, like Stafford, failed to bring a conference title to Athens.

Maybe, he suggested, some Georgia fans see Stafford as getting more out of UGA than UGA got out of him. Oh, they’ll cheer for him to do well in the NFL, but he’s not beloved as you might expect a No. 1 draft pick to be.

I’ve said it here before: Stafford and Knowshon Moreno probably were the most talented quarterback-tailback tandem UGA has ever had, but I’m not sure they’ll ever enter the pantheon of Bulldog immortals because they left school early without achieving what the Bulldog Nation expected of them.

So how do you feel about Stafford a year later? If he becomes a big success in the NFL (which might require getting traded), do you think that will add some glow to his UGA legacy?

SEEING RED, BLACK AND WHITE …

Talking to the Lake Country Bulldog Club this week, Richt was asked about the possibility of another Blackout and Marc Weiszer of the Athens Banner-Herald reports he first took an applause poll of the fans in attendance (more seemed against a Blackout) and then said, “What I’m thinking is if the seniors really want one, we might do it, but they’re going to have to earn maybe making it to Atlanta or beyond to get a Blackout,” Richt said.

Which sounds like an entirely reasonable response, the key being if they earn it.

Do you ever want to see those black helmets again? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

Do you ever want to see those black helmets again? (Brant Sanderlin / AJC)

But Richt went beyond that and raised the possibility of black jerseys (or, gulp, helmets) just becoming another rotating part of the Dogs’ uniform wardrobe, much like black uniforms have for other UGA teams, including basketball.

“What I’m thinking about doing, and it won’t happen this year,” Richt said, is “it wouldn’t be a bad idea if we have red, black, white jerseys and maybe a red helmet or maybe another color helmet, I don’t know, black helmet. And then just say this is part of what we do and then maybe make them match. Not to save them for any one special game. … I think just winning games is the most important thing.”

Well, he’s right about the winning, but I think perhaps he’s on to something with demystifying the black jersey by taking it out of the “special” category. And after all those years of watching that clip of Herschel run over Bill Bates, I’m sure I’m not the only fan who’d get a kick out of seeing the red britches again. (Though definitely not with red jerseys and helmets.)

I also liked the black britches a few years back with white jerseys and red helmets, but not with red jerseys. And the black helmet? I’m not so sure about the black helmet, which I doubt would have won over many fans even if the Dogs had somehow managed to upset the Gators last year while wearing it.

What do you think? Would you favor the Dogs mixing it up a bit in their uniforms, or would you prefer to stick with the tried and true standard uniform of red helmets, silver britches, red tops at home and white jerseys on the road?

TALK ABOUT BAD TIMING …

Two thoughts on Trent Dittmer’s arrest this week in Athens for public intoxication:

First, if you consider the home page of a newspaper’s Web site to be the digital equivalent of the printed paper’s front page, it’s amazing to me that anything to do with a walk-on backup punter who’s never likely to grace the field in a game could be considered front page news, even an arrest.

And second, we all know that college students are prone to do stupid things from time to time, especially related to drinking. But how clueless does a young man have to be to go out and get drunk, get in an altercation and get arrested the same week one of his team’s quaterbacks has been publicly humiliated and kicked off the team for an alcohol-related incident?

Sounds like it’s time for one of those team meetings.

314 comments Add your comment

common sense

April 22nd, 2010
10:15 am

“Redout”!!! All red. Or red helments, black jerseys, and silver pants. No more black helments please.

common sense

April 22nd, 2010
10:17 am

I guess I was first. But who cares.

DCJohn

April 22nd, 2010
10:18 am

If Matt and Knowshon had David or D.J.’s defense, then Bill King would need a new subject to write about.

ATL XMAN

April 22nd, 2010
10:19 am

i like staff just as much as the other bulldog alum…true bulldog fans should. Matt has more talent than all the other qb’s and it showed and the NFL agreed. and as great as he is and moreno, football is still a team sport and those other guys had a alll around better team and were full of jrs and seniors which moreno and stafford didnt really ever have.

as far as the uni’s,,you cant really screw up red , black and silver they all look good.

DCJohn

April 22nd, 2010
10:25 am

Not a dig at ya Bill because I love your take on everything going on with Georgia. If I could recommend another topic to write about, how bout a game by game break down of how 2007 would have turned out with the 2002 or 2003 defense? The best parts would probably be lighting up LSWho? and then the Buckeyes!

Kasie

April 22nd, 2010
10:28 am

Matthew & Knowshon did not have the help on the field – from players & coaches – that they deserved for the talent they possess. They did all they could for us – can’t win a national championship with just 2 players. I hope they both excel in the NFL – on the field & in their wallets.

Thirty Points to your Twenty-Four Points

April 22nd, 2010
10:29 am

Oh, what a day it will be today!! I cannot wait for the Tech Nerds to show up on our blog tonight and tomorrow ranting about their “success” in the NFL Draft tonight. It makes me smile just thinking about it!!!

Come on Techies!! Let’s hear your denial!!! Please include ANY 8 of the last 9 scores of the State Championship game held the Saturday after Thanksgiving with your rant!!!

I’ll get you started with one…….. {{{{{30-24}}}} Now it’s your turn! But remember!!! you must include 8….. not just the score in 2008.

Finally…. I would like to congratulate the Dawg Nation for having more fans show up at our Spring Game than the average attendance at a regular season home game at Bubba Dudd stadium.

TO HELL WITH GEORGIA TECH!!!!!

Saint Simons

April 22nd, 2010
10:31 am

UGA = Thug U

The Other St. Simons

April 22nd, 2010
10:32 am

I HATE black helmets almost as much as I hate anything orange and blue.

calibre lake dawg

April 22nd, 2010
10:32 am

1. common sense you do care sense you made it a point to mention.
2. DCJohn is spot on with his comment
3. How bout have Nike design a completely different uniform? Oregon has 20something diffrent kinds

Thirty Points to your Twenty-Four Points

April 22nd, 2010
10:32 am

What do Marijuana and Georgia Tech Football have in common?

They are both frequently SMOKED in bowls.

Terry

April 22nd, 2010
10:33 am

Staff and Moreno had great individual stats, and got Georgia to a a pre-season #1 ranking and a #3 finish in the nation. Both went in the 1st round, so you can’t blame them for leaving early. Plus, Richt wasted a year with Moreno because he misjudged his talent early.

If we would have handed the ball to Moreno more, and thrown less interceptions with Stafford, richt would have a national chasmpionship. Of course Willie’s D didn’t help a lot either.

calibre lake dawg

April 22nd, 2010
10:34 am

GT= school in atlanta slum
GT= can’t stop posting on Dawg blogs
GT= people like st simon who is an obvious idiot

hayden thomas

April 22nd, 2010
10:37 am

lets just stick to our regular uniforms! weve always opened up a can of whoop in them!

Standing on the sidelines

April 22nd, 2010
10:40 am

Richt ought to quit worrying about uniforms so much and concentrate on winning more games and improving homeboy’s coaching abilities. I said last season and still say now that one of the main reasons, although not the paramount one, that Stafford left early was probably because he did not think it would do him any good to hang around homeboy for another year. Why waste time?

kbbink

April 22nd, 2010
10:42 am

Silver Helments, White Jersey, Silver Britch’s.

Do the Dirty Nerd

April 22nd, 2010
10:43 am

I like the traditional uniforms, but I do agree that if we’re going to where alternate jerseys/pants (keep the red helmets no matter what, that is our identity), they need to be more of a regular occurence. We shouldn’t wear uniforms to get players excited; the opportunity to play big time college football should accomplish that end. I say wear uniforms that look sharp, shelf (donate to a highschool maybe?) the dorky Grambling helmets, and quit worrying about the damn laundry all the time.

JR

April 22nd, 2010
10:44 am

Stafford was UGA’s best QB ever. He came in during a transitional period and really was not to blame for why the entire team did not win the SEC during his 3 years, despite having a stellar sophomore year. I also like his continued compliments and promotion of the Georgia program and his appearing back on the sidelines several times last season.

Saint Simons

April 22nd, 2010
10:45 am

UGA should wear black and white striped uniforms!!!!!

Barack Dawg

April 22nd, 2010
10:45 am

Stafford and Moreno were great for Georgia but did let down a little in 2008. However, that was not totally their fault. Our wonderful DC did not do his job of coaching the defensive talent that he had and he failed again in 2009. Hence he was fired. I am looking forward to seeing the coaching talent we have on the defensive side of the ball at work this fall. I think it will be tremendous and UGA fans will be both surprised and proud.

However, we are going to have to deal with the same issue on the offensive side of the ball if Bobo does not step it up. Last year could have been different had we figured out before the 5th game what the correct offensive line alignment should be. Likewise, we had issues with the defensive coaching abilities and we struggled. But Bobo and Richt seemed determined to put Cox in the spot light. Why did Gray not play more or not use one of the redshirt QBs more. If you have a player that is supposed to be a star – he needs to play early. Redshirt is useless if he can go pro – see Stafford and Moreno. Moreno was redshirted – imagine him playing his freshman year.

We need to focus on running the ball and have an Alabama offensive type year. Of course, I don’t expect our defense to be as good as Alabama’s was last year but if we have strong improvement on D then we can make large strides this year.

Simple Simons

April 22nd, 2010
10:46 am

dawgs01

April 22nd, 2010
10:47 am

If they would have had a better defense then stafford and moreno would have done a lot better our defense was awful when they were here. I love the black jerseys. Those black helmets did not look good with the red facemask and white jerseys.

Michael

April 22nd, 2010
10:48 am

I’d also like to see the red pants on the road again. That was a good look. I hated the black helmets. It looked like they stole them from a south Georgia high school on the way down to Jax.

chazzo

April 22nd, 2010
10:48 am

Stafford and Moreno ditched out on the expectations… expectations that were unrealistic. I don’t think they deserve discredit because they didn’t play for teams like the others. Even Zier playing under Goff played on a team. From the outside looking in, mind you, Stafford and Moreno just didn’t appear to be on a team. They were really bright stars in a collection of individuals. It wasn’t just the QB and RB that ditched out. Everyone ditched out, got kicked out, or injured out. I think it is all on the coaches. Richt deserves some criticism here. I will always suspected that his support staff were a bunch of bickering ninnies and ego heads who lacked leadership and destroyed morale. I think Richt responded to the criticism. He is a good HC, who has been willing to learn and make changes. But, hey I have never set foot in the locker room. There just seemed to be a lack of chemistry in ‘07-’08 and ‘09 was a rebuilder. It happens.

Stafford and Moreno will eventually be recognized once we are over the disappointment of the not #1 season. Look at their stats.

AceDawg

April 22nd, 2010
10:48 am

I would hate to see UGA turn into an Oregon corporate uniform circus. It really DOES work for a team like Oregon, but UGA should stay somewhat traditional. (we don’t have to be exactly like an Alabama or Penn State, but let’s keep it within reason). That said, even a team like Florida has switched up the helmet in recent years, and as long as UGA sticks to the basics (red, white, silver, and black), a few color combos would not kill me. AND, although I think the blackout against Auburn was amazing, more often than not it is special when you see the Dawgs kick some tail in the good ole red jersey.

Thirty Points to your Twenty-Four Points

April 22nd, 2010
10:49 am

What’s the best way to avoid being mugged at Tech on a Thursday Night??

Attend the football game.

Don't encourage him...

April 22nd, 2010
10:51 am

Saint Simons is the most successful “troll” I’ve ever encountered. You guys constantly play into his hands. You’ve even copied his annoying score annotation followed by digital laughter. Just ignore the little worm and he’ll eventually go away. If you keep paying him attention, you’re giving him exactly what he wants. And please, stop stooping to his level by copying his annoying habits. Remeber, Tech fans have to talk smack on the internet because they’re too yellow (pun intended) to do it at the stadium.

Go Dawgs.

TUCK FECK

April 22nd, 2010
10:52 am

Have to agree with DCjohn about Stafford and Moreno’s defense!

And Tech …Iowa and GEORGIA have BCS Wins ..What about U?

Jasper Sanks

April 22nd, 2010
10:55 am

Cuz

April 22nd, 2010
10:56 am

If we are going to have a black jersey then I am not against a black helmet with a white or silver grill. I would like to see what a silver helmet would like like with a road uniform of white jersey and silver britches. Get Fran to lead them on the field.

Thirty Points to your Twenty-Four Points

April 22nd, 2010
10:57 am

Dear Tech “Fans”,

Could you please be considerate, and stop leaving your empty asthma inhalers in the upper parking lot before all your home games.

Thanks.

The Varsity

JT

April 22nd, 2010
10:57 am

Red? Black? White? Silver? Hows about just win. Could care less what they wear while doing so.

LAKE OCONEE DAWG

April 22nd, 2010
10:57 am

ST. SIMONS:
Like the Geico commercial says, on November 28, we brought the bees to their knees….and to be honest, no one could have predicted that…..

DawginOH

April 22nd, 2010
10:57 am

It was a proud day for all Dawg fans when Stafford was selected #1 overall. That being said, he will never hold the same place in this fan’s heart as, say, Greene or Shockley, who both brought an SEC title to Athens. No more gimmick, jerseys. Please. The Dawgs wear red helmets, red jerseys and silver britches. CMR needs to focus on better ways to motivate his players for big games rather than dressing them up like science fiction characters (see last season’s debacle against the Gators, who looked like a women’s softball team in all blue). If he sees the need to shake things up, why not put Uga in a black jersey? Just not the players.

chazzo

April 22nd, 2010
11:01 am

It’s not really the color of the uniform; it’s how you accessorize. LOL Why is this the major issue? Are the guys reading 17 magazine?

cutty

April 22nd, 2010
11:03 am

I remember watching Fran Tarkenton and cast play and how each fall when they played Tech how spectacular those silver and gold helmets looked.Why not honor tradition and play some of your games w/silver? After all, hasn’t UGA won just as many nat’l championships with silver as red?

ChewDawg

April 22nd, 2010
11:07 am

Red Britches, Black Jersey, Black Helmet = Awesome.

I love the black jersey…it just looks awesome. But we’ve got to get rid of the hype that goes with it. I’d love to see them pick one home game a year and black it out. Get rid of the mystery. Get rid of the questions…just call on the fans to black it out at the beginning of the season and make it a fun game.

OldDawg

April 22nd, 2010
11:10 am

Black helments….NEVER AGAIN! PLEASE!

On the other hand, I dont mind a switch in color schemes from time to time, although I hated the red pants almost as much as the black helments!

Would ,love to see the white pants from time to time….very crisp and clean and very good contrast to the red! And while on the subject…maybe it is just me…but our “silver britches” dont really look silver to me…more of a dull gray!

PMC

April 22nd, 2010
11:12 am

Stafford was great to have while he was there but he said it himself. He’s always wanted to be a pro guy. Zeier and David Greene bleed for the school.

SoCal Dawg

April 22nd, 2010
11:12 am

Silver britches always.

SoCal Dawg

April 22nd, 2010
11:15 am

Also could the baseball team get rid of the white helmets.

RJ

April 22nd, 2010
11:16 am

Stafford and Moreno accomplished NOTHING. Of course there is a lack of love. These guys were celebrated as the best QB and best RB in their class. They were the first players drafted at their position when they went pro. They just are not winners.

RJ

April 22nd, 2010
11:17 am

Zeier and David Greene also weren’t good enough to be any good in the pros. They didn’t leave early because they weren’t good enough. Stafford was.

Bryan G.

April 22nd, 2010
11:19 am

I like the black jerseys and the black pants with white jerseys.

I’m with you, though, Bill….I’d like to see red pants on the road.

Cmill

April 22nd, 2010
11:20 am

NOOOOOO!!!!!!

SILVER BRITCHES, RED AND WHITE JERSEYS.

black every now and then is ok, but NO BLACK HELMETS AND ALWAYS WEAR SILVER BRITCHES!!!!

#1 BAMA FAN

April 22nd, 2010
11:20 am

If the DAWGS get to ATLANTA and BAMA is there I would not go with the “blackout”…I’m just say’in….RTR

Ryan

April 22nd, 2010
11:23 am

Why is everybody so obssessed with UGA’s uniforms? Who cares?

WonderDawg

April 22nd, 2010
11:25 am

BVG woulda got Stafford and Moreno to the ATL.

WonderDawg

April 22nd, 2010
11:27 am

Richt better check with his boss. Damen Evans said last year after Jax that there would be no more uniform changes or something to that effect.

Put me in coach

April 22nd, 2010
11:29 am

It is my belief that Stafford never really embraced or had pride in being a Bulldog. I met him once and thought he was very arrogent. He will never be even close to my favorite UGA player ever.

Uniforms??? I think it is a great idea to mix ‘em up. Wear different combinations but not for special games…