Talent not enough to win championships, Saints’ Stinchcomb says

Jon Stinchcomb was named to the Pro Bowl this past season. (New Orleans Saints)

Jon Stinchcomb was named to the Pro Bowl this past season. (New Orleans Saints)

UGA football fans’ favorite brothers, the Stinchcombs, were at the Touchdown Club of Athens meeting this week, Matt on hand to introduce featured speaker Jon of the Super Bowl-winning New Orleans Saints.

As you’d expect with brothers, there was some good-natured sibling rivalry. Matt told the assembled fans that he’d been excited to be asked to speak to the club … until he discovered it was just to talk about his little brother.

Jon, a Pro Bowl selection who looks to be about twice the size of Matt these days, was there to talk about what makes a championship team. He recalled his sophomore year at UGA when the 2000 roster was loaded with NFL-caliber talent, with the likes of Quincy Carter, Marcus Stroud, Richard Seymour, Charles Grant, Jonas Jennings, Boss Bailey, Kendrell Bell and so on.
Coach Jim Donnan told the team that “if you can’t win a national championship with talent like that, you should get out of coaching,” Stinchbomb said, pausing for a moment before adding: “That was Coach Donnan’s last year as coach.”

The problem, Stinchcomb said, was that despite all that talent, the Dogs “didn’t win because we didn’t play as a team.”

The key to a great team, Stinchcomb said, is accountability. That came into play in 2002 when Georgia was playing at Auburn for a trip to Atlanta and the SEC championship game. After a pretty poor first half, Mark Richt remembers he was trying to figure out what he was going to say to get the team fired up when he heard the loud voice of Stinchcomb doing it for him. Among other things — most of which Stincomb laughingly admitted he didn’t want to repeat — the player asked his teammates to look the guy next to them in the eyes and vow to win it for him.

Another factor in the turnaround after Richt became Georgia’s coach, Stinchcomb said, was that the players worked harder. He still smarts at the memory of the first day of mat drills, in which the players are graded on their efforts. Stinchcomb’s grade was a “D.” That was a new experience for the noted scholar-athlete. “I’d never made a ‘D’ in anything in my life!” In fact, he joked, looking over at Richt, “I’m still a little bit contentious about it.”

Jon Stinchcomb likes to remind his brother Matt that he scored against Auburn. (University of Georgia)

Jon Stinchcomb likes to remind his brother Matt that he scored against Auburn. (University of Georgia)

The same lessons have applied in New Orleans, he said, where the team and the community have bonded tightly in a way similar to college football programs in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. But while he said he’s proud of being on the Super Bowl champion, Stinchcomb drew a big cheer from the Athens fan gathering when he noted, “I’m a Saint for this period of my life, but I’ll always be a Bulldog.”

Asked his favorite moment from his UGA playing career, Stinchcomb cited two. The first was the 2001 come-from-behind win at Knoxville. He said it was “the loudest stadium I’ve ever heard” until after the Dogs scored the winning touchdown, at which point “it was the quietest stadium I’ve ever heard.”

The other UGA highlight was that Auburn game in 2002. Stinchcomb turned to brother Matt sitting beside the podium and drew a laugh when he said, “I scored a touchdown in that game, Matt. I don’t know if I told you.”

As Richt noted in thanking the Stinchcombs’ parents, who were on hand, Jon and Matt are two of the best UGA football has produced, both on and off the field. In the latter regard, the Stinchcombs, along with pal David Greene, are again putting on the Countdown to Kickoff event to raise funds for children’s healthcare charities, with this year’s fan day featuring Dogs present and past set for July 17 at the practice fields in Athens.

Another example of accountability.

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My Boston accent is so ugly

April 14th, 2010
10:23 am

nunyabizness……

My Boston accent is so ugly

April 14th, 2010
10:23 am

yeah whatever!

April 14th, 2010
10:38 am

5Dawgs

April 14th, 2010
10:39 am

Congratulations Jon on winning the Super Bowl!! What a great guy and a great Bulldog!!!

yeah whatever!

April 14th, 2010
10:40 am

UNDER Richt

Vs. SEC foes: 43-22
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Vs. Top 25 foes: 29-18
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Vs. Top 25 foes away from home: 18-12
.
Vs. Top 10 foes: 8-6
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In postseason games (bowls and championships): 9-3
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In games decided by a touchdown or less: 34-14
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Record at home: 46-9
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Record on the road: 42-6 (including bowl games)
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Losses to unranked teams: 6
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Top 25 finishes: 8
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Top 10 finishes: 6
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Fact:………UGA was 12-1 in 2002 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Fla was 12-1 in 2006 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Not UGAs fault there were 2 unbeatens that year. “unlucky”
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Fact……….Not Flas credit that there was only one unbeaten in 2006. “Lucky”
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Fact:………Luck (not merit) had more to do with Fla getting an invite to the BCS not that Fla was more deserving to go to a NC than UGA with identical records.
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Fact:………No SEC team has ever lost a BCSNC game and if UGA would have been invited nothing indicates that it would have been different
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Fact……….UGA has 2 SEC titles..same as Fla in last 9 years and equal amount of total wins (90) over all.
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Fact……….UGA has been ranked more times top ten in last 9 years than any SEC team at 6. Fla has only been ranked top ten 3 times in 9 years (real impressive).
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Fact……….In 9 years under Richt the only SEC team with more wins is LSU

Fact………..UGA has won 4 str8 bowls….more than any other SEC team.
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Fact……..UGA has won 11 of last 13 bowls…Thats more than any team (tied with LSU and more than FLA)
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Fact…… UGA has won 8 or more games in last 13 years…more than any other team in the nation including Fla.
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Fact…….UGA is clearly as good or better than any SEC team over last 9 years. Only a fool or a fan of the mythical BCSNC selection process (non playoff) would think otherwise.
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Fact…….UGA had same record when they won the SEC title in 2002 as Fla did in 2006/8 when they won the SEC title. But UGA had the misfortune (luck) to have that record in a year that had 2 other teams with undefeated records.
Hardly an indictment on UGA but rather on the NC selection process.
6 times finished in the top 10
2 times finished in the top 3
3 SEC Championship Appearances
2 SEC Titles
3 BCS Bowls
2 Sugar Bowl wins
90-27 record over 8 seasons – 79% winning percentage (one of only 7 in the history of college ball to have ever accomplished this)
4 str8 bowl wins
7-2 in bowls (big games)
Mark Richt coached QB coach for Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke = 2 Heismans; Head Coach for David Greene = all time winningest college QB until Colt McCoy this year); and coached Matthew Stafford = very rich #1 draft pick)
No Probations
He has my respect.

SOGADOG

April 14th, 2010
11:05 am

Under CMR:
UGA is 14-11 against SEC east opponents the last 5 years.
UGA is 2-7 against Florida
UGA is 3-8 against Florida and Tenn. the last five years.
UGA is 2-3 against Tenn. the last five years.
UGA has never beaten won all its SEC east games in a season
UGA has never beaten Tenn and Fla in the same season

We can always come up with old statistics to make ourselves feel good, but the cold hard fact is the Dawgs have not been competitive against SEC east teams the last five years. Unless they can start beating Florida and Tenn, there will be no more championships. I love the Dawgs, and I wouldnt trade CMR for any other coach, but lets not kid ourselves, the Dawgs need to improve against SEC east teams to play for championships.

mark

April 14th, 2010
11:13 am

Nice story, great guys, but lets not rank brother tandems. The Bailey’s certainly deserve a mention at the top. No offense, just an observation.

Old Dawg

April 14th, 2010
11:22 am

Yes, the Stinchcomb brothers have been great for UGA, but shouldn’t the Bailey brothers be similarly regarded? They helped the Dawgs win a lot of games as well.

Will

April 14th, 2010
11:29 am

The 2000 team was so loaded… I can’t believe that was 10 years ago! Other than the 2008 team, there has never been a more talented group that came up short.

Lowcountry Bulldawg

April 14th, 2010
11:30 am

Old Dawg,

I believe they are. The article is directly related to Jon having won a Super Bowl and coming back to Athens to speak of teambuilding and its importance. Good grief!

Bill King

April 14th, 2010
11:32 am

I hold the Baileys in the highest regard for their playing days at UGA. But in their post-UGA days you don’t see nearly as much of them, while Matt and Jon have become among the most visible former players in promoting the school and doing charitable work. No knock on the Baileys intended; just praise for the Stinchcombs.

longtimesecfan

April 14th, 2010
11:37 am

yeah whatever:

you left out one stat in your selected list:
3-17 ””’

JB

April 14th, 2010
11:44 am

Waiting for some Tech Fan to raise his ugly head to say something hateful about John and Matt, two good citizens, who would of made all A’s at Tech, but will be labeled as ‘ burger flippers”

DawgFan24

April 14th, 2010
11:49 am

I agree Bill…the Stinchcombs were and still are class acts. Good article.

U R Right

April 14th, 2010
11:53 am

Talent goes to the Bailey Brothers. But Love for UGA (shown through actions not words) the S’s have that all the way…..

W

April 14th, 2010
12:15 pm

Maybe the Stinchcombs can leave better tips in the Downtown Athens Area. $5 on 100 is unexceptable.

Fred Mertz

April 14th, 2010
12:23 pm

W…maybe you should get a better education and a better job and you wouldn’t have to rely on tips to pay the bills.

Denver Dawg

April 14th, 2010
12:26 pm

“unexceptable” is unacceptable…

TheItalianDawg

April 14th, 2010
12:28 pm

talent is nice but requires coaching to display it. 2008 team was very talented but Martinez screw it up! couldn’t stop Bama or Tech.

Stinger

April 14th, 2010
12:31 pm

Burger flippers…

chili

April 14th, 2010
12:40 pm

…and governors.

college student working for tips

April 14th, 2010
1:04 pm

Fred Mertz you sir are unaware that many of those students who are getting and education in Athens, work in the service industry to pay their way through school. If you have a problem with tipping, do not go out to eat. The servers and cooks are working a job they hate so that they can “get a better education and a better job”
MAYBE YOU SHOULD REMOVE YOUR HEAD FROM YOUR OTHER ORIFICE BEFORE POSTING

kevin

April 14th, 2010
1:20 pm

Fred Mertz,

Maybe you should be grateful for the job you have and not poke fun at folks less fortunate than yourself–you sound like an arrogant jerk.

ugaclassof2004

April 14th, 2010
1:26 pm

Everything Jon said is absolutely correct! Everyone talks about the coaches setting the tone, but it’s up to the players to take ownership. That’s why UGA underachieved in 2008, because there was zero accountability. Stafford and Moreno should have been like Tim Tebow, who set the tone for their championship season by accepting responsibility for their loss and vowing to never let it happen again. Call the “Promise” cornball if you want, but you can’t argue with the results. Players can’t just wait around for coaches to inspire them. There has to be a sense of pride and purpose as a team, and that has to come from the players as well.

Accountability can not be underestimated. Neither can talent. That 2002 team had more talent then Jon will have us all believe. Don’t let anyone tell you that talent doesn’t matter because it does! But it’s definately not the only determining factor in winning a championship. Accountability + Hard Work +Talent+ Coaching = championships.

Johnny DangerDawg

April 14th, 2010
1:30 pm

Great article, Bill. I love the Stinchcomb brothers and enjoy hearing Jon talk about the past and the present. I love the Bailey brothers too, and I hope they will speak at Touchdown Club events in the future.

Dorsey Hill

April 14th, 2010
1:41 pm

The talent debate is a difficut one because you can’t win without it, but you can lose even though you have it. To me greatest comes from a system, for example in the cases of the Pittsburgh Steelers or the Patriots or any other great team that you can think of, where the coach sets the structure, the identity and the goals and then uses the talent at his disposal to achieve success rather than the other way around. For example, you can take the system that FSU used during its great run and give it to say, Vandy, and they will fall flat because FSU depended on talent first and last. The thing that makes a Coach like Saban so good is that he sees that difference. Its his way or no way but let’s get the best players we can to run it. That’s how you win chamionships. Or you join the ACC and outclass every team on your schedule. That doesn’t work in the NFL and it won’t work in the SEC. I thought CMR had brought that sort of structure to Athens from 2001 to 2005, then we got Stafford and Moreno, and not that its those guys fault at all, but the “team” identity kind of started to fade. I think CMR’s bringing in new blood is about getting back to the concept of playing “Georgia Football” rather than riding on the identities or talents of any one or more players. I for one think that 2010-2014 will look more like 2001-2005 than 2006-2009.

papadawg

April 14th, 2010
1:52 pm

These guys Had (have) What the Dawgs haven’t had in a while. HEART and a PASSION for the Game

The D

April 14th, 2010
2:14 pm

Rodney O’Neal. O’Neal, (5-11, 170) why have we not offered this kid Bill? He sounds just like Jon and Matt, with his love for the Dawgs. Does anyone know why?

longtimesecfan...Really?

April 14th, 2010
2:31 pm

yeah whatever as talking about the last nine years you moron. If want please tell us what the overall record is. Please go farther past Spurrier first year. what a moron…

Bill King is a ..................

April 14th, 2010
2:38 pm

I”m still waiting on that magical NEXT YEAR. It’s always ‘wait til next year.’ That year doesnt seem to coming to Athens anytime soon.

Paddy

April 14th, 2010
2:45 pm

OldDawg, it is not about the Bailey brothers because they were not there. This story would not make much sense otherwise. Hope the Bailey’s come to this event next year. I can’t wait to tell all my friends about not seeing the Stinchcombs in the audience. And their names were not even mentioned! What is wrong with CMR? My guess he does not like either family very well.

Delbert D.

April 14th, 2010
2:57 pm

“Fact…….UGA is clearly as good or better than any SEC team over last 9 years. Only a fool or a fan of the mythical BCSNC selection process (non playoff) would think otherwise.”

Not a *fact*, merely an opinion. Check the Wikipedia on what constitutes a “fact.”

Bobby

April 14th, 2010
3:02 pm

What’s with Fact boy? 50-100 years from now the only fact people are going to know is :

2006 – Florida National Champions
2007 – LSU National Champions
2008 – Florida National Champions
2009 – Alabama National Champions

RxDawg

April 14th, 2010
3:21 pm

Great article Bill. And I agree, some positive mention for the Stenchcomb’s is not a negative for the Baily’s.

yeah whatever!

April 14th, 2010
3:50 pm

BullDawg Rick

April 14th, 2010
4:04 pm

Nice write Bill.. This article is NOT a knock on Ronald, Champ & Boss Bailey.. However as far as ’student/athlete’, the Stinchcomb brothers were AA’s both on the gridiron & classroom..

BOTH famlies are DGD’s!!!

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don't take no jive!

April 14th, 2010
4:40 pm

In response to Yeah Whatever!
Fact…..Florida has 3 NC’s in the last 14 years.
Fact…..Georgia has 1 NC in the past 30 years.
All of the rest is pure speculation and useless statistics. Those things don’t go in trophy cases!!!!!

Tallcarl

April 14th, 2010
5:33 pm

Well Fred Mertz, things have changed since the ‘I love Lucy show’. Not only do some very fine students work while attending college they do it while playing sports and making decent grades. I now live in Madrid and in Europe you start off by waiting tables proceed to kitchen help then cook or Manager. It is considered a respectable trade and takes about 4 years to complete. Newt time you go out remember that 20 per cent is base line tip; more if in a good restaurant or if the waiter is friendly and professional. My mother worked hard in a small restaurant to feed 7 children and get them though school. Fred next time just go to a drive-though: you do not have to leave tips and you get what a person like you deserves.
Sorry Bill and other Dogs but some time I have to vent on ignorance.

shane#1

April 14th, 2010
5:46 pm

Siblings on the roster are nothing new to the Dawgs, now it will be the Ogletree brothers. Hale thinks Zander should be redshirted, but I disagree. I have never seen the kid play, but I understand Zander is one hard nosed player. He should play on the special teams if nowhere else. All those that saw plenty of toughness and hard tackles on the kick coverage team last year are free to disagree!

jerry

April 14th, 2010
6:12 pm

So that’s why UGA is 3-19 vs u no who.

What it takes

April 14th, 2010
6:23 pm

What it takes is focus, discipline on and off the field, drive, and determination. What we seem to have is talent but not the willpower and the on and off the field discipline that other championship teams have. Most noticeable is how undisciplined our team is compared to someone like Bama. Nick Saban may be a jerk but you don’t see his players getting arrested left and right over the past year for all kinds of stupid things. And you don’t see his teams making all the dumb, stupid penalties and turnovers that we make every single game. We got the talent. We just don’t have the focus and discipline. Richt needs to take a clue from the guy that we all love to hate Saban and learn to instill focus and discipline to our team both on and off the field. That’s the bottom line.

PT

April 14th, 2010
6:55 pm

Saban is a great coach, but he has the personality of a slug. If you are not preforming at an acceptable level by your redshirt Fr. year your not going to be around very long. Ever notice why Ala always has 25 + scholarships to offer. Saban never makes a bad choice with recruits, they just, well, transfere.

Gunner Dog

April 14th, 2010
7:49 pm

The dogs just need a light schedule to win it all, and finally, in 2010 they get it. Richt has a great record against Ark (3-0), S Car (7-2), Auburn (4-0), GaTech (8-1), and Kentucky (7-2). And he’s 7-1 against Auburn and Alabama if we get to the SEC Championship.

Then we need Fla to have a down year, and they do in 2010. Tebow, Strong, Harvin, 13 starters gne, and 4 new coaches.

2010 is the year for Richt, will never be a better opportunity..

Gunner Dog

April 14th, 2010
7:52 pm

richt already has 2 national championship rings, and he’s been to 5 national championships, more than any coach in the SEC. he’s finished 2 years at #2 or #3, and didn’t get any help from kirk herbstriet and espn in 2007, and got robbed when we went 13-1 and won the SEC. if he just keeps doing what he’s doing,m he’s had 7 national championship type of seasons so far in his 18 year coaching history.

Small Johnson

April 14th, 2010
7:53 pm

Have said for years UGA has had way to much talent to have the results that we have had.

Must start beating FL, if not changes need to be made

Gunner Dog

April 14th, 2010
7:56 pm

by the way, I am not the first person on these blogs to say it, but it’s true.

If richt wins it all in 2010, saban, meyer and spurrier will all quit, retire, or move on.

meyer and saban always leave their team after 6 years max so they’ll bot. spurrier has said he wants to retire at 65, and this year, he’s 65.

then richt can go on a run the likes of which no ne has ever seen.

Small Johnson

April 14th, 2010
7:59 pm

wanting FL to have a down year so we can get into a championship is crap

I do not want anymore SEC championships or BCS games if we cannot start beating FL

What a cop out have some pride people and learn to hit your opponent in the mouth and knock him out

Not oh please please big bad FL, how about losing for us this year, so we can go to a championship we have been good the last 20

Give me a break go pull for Vanderbilt

Gunner Dog

April 14th, 2010
8:02 pm

or how about this, quit beating yourself against florida by turning the ball over 4 times a game. stop beating yourself richt, stop turining over the ball, and committing penatlties (#117 in both) and 14-0 for many years. meyer has NEVER, NEVER, NEVER beat Georgia.

richt is 15-0 when he commits 0 turnovers.

nobody beats richt, but richt. he’s too good of coach.

One, two, free, fo, fi, dem der Gator don't take no jive!

April 14th, 2010
8:14 pm

Gunner Dog, you’re just delusional. Do you really think that Georgia is better than Florida? If they were, wouldn’t the results show on the field at least 75% of the time? Turnovers are part of the game. It’s called taking talent and making them the best they can be through hard work, hard cecisions, focus and deisre. Richt’s teams no longer show that.
Face it……you can’t compete with Florida on a regular basis until you are prepared to do the work necessary to move up to thier level. Just hoping they back down to you is for losers!!!!!

Kelly

April 14th, 2010
8:25 pm

Did this Kirk Herbstreit fellow who cost UGA a shot at the 2007 title game play for South Carolina or Tennessee?

hummdinger

April 14th, 2010
8:45 pm

gunner dog sounds an awful lot like Fatrick.

Blue Max

April 14th, 2010
8:48 pm

gunner if richt was so great then why is the following true?

Under CMR:
UGA is 14-11 against SEC east opponents the last 5 years.
UGA is 2-7 against Florida
UGA is 3-8 against Florida and Tenn. the last five years.
UGA is 2-3 against Tenn. the last five years.
UGA has never beaten won all its SEC east games in a season
UGA has never beaten Tenn and Fla in the same season

the original homer

April 14th, 2010
8:51 pm

Bill King, why is it when you dont like what someone says, you block them from your site?

Dawg Stephen

April 14th, 2010
9:11 pm

Original Homer, thats because he is a joke just like the paper he writes for.

As far as this article goes…. Talent dont win championships. I know Stinchcomb said it, but to blather on and on about it for a topic is plain stupid. Here is more insight.

Talent dont win championships.
Fans dont coach
Coaches dont make tackles
Trainers dont wear shoulder pads
Running backs dont serve powerade
Vendors dont mow the grass
Groundskeepers dont gameplan
Michael Adams dont have a clue
Neither does Bill King

yeah whatever!

April 14th, 2010
9:59 pm

under Richt

He is 24-7 against the SEC West.

He is 28-16 against the SEC East.

He is 38-4 against nonconference opponents.

He is 8-1 against Georgia Tech.

He won four of his first five games against Tennessee, but has lost three of the last four against the Vols since then.

He was born the same year as Chuck D of Public Enemy.

Ranks third in winning percentage among active college coaches that have coached for at least five years, now that Pete Carroll left USC for the NFL’s Seattle Seahawks.

He is 90-27, trailing only Urban Meyer (96-18) and Bob Stoops (117-29).\\yeah he is pretty damn good

yeah whatever!

April 14th, 2010
10:04 pm

Mark Richt is one of only six coaches to win two SEC football championships in their first five years coaching. He is also one of only five head coaches in SEC history to record four straight 10-win seasons

yeah whatever!

April 14th, 2010
10:08 pm

Coach Richt’s Red and Black outfits have never posted a losing record in conference play and six of his last eight squads have finished 6-2 or better in regular-season SEC contests.
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yeah he is pretty damn good.

yeah whatever!

April 14th, 2010
10:09 pm

Mark Richt’s overall success in Southeastern Conference action—including two SEC titles, three conference championship game appearances, and four finishes of no worse than tied for first place in the East, with no losing records in the process—is without parallel in Georgia football history.
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Yeah he is prety damn good

yeah whatever!

April 14th, 2010
10:11 pm

Ere anyone attempts to argue that Coach Richt’s superb out-of-conference ledger is the product of schedules stacked with the likes of

Northwestern State,

Western Kentucky,

Tennessee Tech, and

Hawaii in the 2008 Sugar Bowl,

I should hasten to point out that he is 21-4 against

Arizona State,

Boise State,

Boston College,

Clemson,

Colorado,

Florida State,

Georgia Tech,

Michigan State,

Oklahoma State,

Purdue,

Texas A&M,

Virginia Tech,

West Virginia, and

Wisconsin.

Even if we factor out Division I-AA teams, Sun Belt squads, and similar schedule fodder, Coach Richt is .840 against teams from automatic BCS-qualifying conferences other than the SEC. (Yes, I’m going ahead and counting the Broncos in that category because the Mountain West will get a guaranteed bid as soon as Boise State is invited to join.)

yeah whatever!

April 14th, 2010
10:11 pm

yeah..he is pretty damn good

yeah whatever!

April 14th, 2010
10:13 pm

There are those in Bulldog Nation who would like to see Mark Richt run out of town on a rail. Such people should be turned over to the custody of Mike Leach, in the hope that he will treat their obvious head trauma the way he treated Adam James’s

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 14th, 2010
10:17 pm

Yeah, I remember beating him down…kind of like this 25-5 butt whooping going on right now between the baseball teams.

I think we can get 30!!!

Chronos

April 14th, 2010
10:29 pm

No talent on the Baseball team either. Losing to Tech 25-5

Gunner Dog

April 14th, 2010
10:31 pm

I have never seen Richt focused like this before in the off-season, maybe 2002 & 2007 to an extent, when he finished in the top 3 in the nation, but he’s never been this intense. he’s in every meeting with the qb’s, he’s using sec refs to eliminate penalties, he fired 3 staff members and went after his biggest competitors staff, he has 2 freshman qb’s playing like Tom Brady already. He’s gonna bring some new stuff into the offensive game plan, a little little pistol, little zone read, little option, bringing the 3-4 defense to the SEC East, innovative. This is crazy. And I love it.

Gunner Dog

April 14th, 2010
10:55 pm

john wooden went 15 years without a national championship as a head coach. then it clicked and he went on to win 10 after that.

Gunner Dog

April 14th, 2010
10:56 pm

geno at uconn didn’t win a natl champ as a head coach his first 9 or 10 years.

now he has 7.

Pitbull

April 14th, 2010
11:14 pm

Great post “yeah whatever”, Good job and thanks for the Info my man.

DawgVoiceofReason

April 14th, 2010
11:56 pm

Tall Carl,

Where do you come up with 20% is “base” for a tip? 15% is the standard tip amount. But, then how do you really tell the difference when many people can’t/don’t do the math and just guestimate and you don’t know whether they liked or didn’t like your service based on the amount left on the table? All I want from a waiter/waitress is for them to be polite and serve our food and drinks promptly and make sure I continue to have everything I need during the meal. Tipping is one of the most idiotic concepts ever developed. The staff ought to be paid a fair wage for their work and then they ought to do their jobs like EVERYONE else who is employed.

DawgVoiceofReason

April 14th, 2010
11:57 pm

Now, back to football.

RED DOG 77

April 14th, 2010
11:58 pm

” Playing together as a team “………Yes, Jon Stinchcomb, you are absolutley right !!!…….I post on this site just about every night before I retire for the evening. Not at all trying to say that I am a knowitall, however I have posted repeatedly concerning the philosophy of chemistry in college football. It is my opinion that everything, especially college football runs in cycles. With that said, as an optomist, I believe without any doubt, 2010 is UGA’s year to rip everyone we play a brand new one. We may well lose a game, mabe two, but everything has come full circle for the DOGS to have a championship calibre year………………..Just look at what we have going for us: Probubly the deepest most talented offensive line in the SEC, O line play wins or loses games. I would take Washaun Ealey as my #1 RB over just about anyone in the country……..and he will be backed up by Caleb King who is way over due for a breakout year, and he will indeed, breakout. Then you have Dontavious Jackson, who is also primed for a great year, and now your running game is second to none !!…….Now look at the WRs……..not much depth, ok, but did anyone notice our tight ends ? The WRs we do have are tremendous, and our tight ends are enough to make any defensive coach shake in his shoes. Now flip on over to the Defense, Coach Todd Grantham, Garner, Belin, and Lakatos are all superior coaches, and therein lies the CHAMPIONSHIP. Defense wins championships, and though Grantham may not have all the players he wants [ tall corners, big LBs] he does have a very talented bunch of defenders…………….With a great big ol fire lit right under their butts !!! Infact, that Grantham fire is so big, that it has spread to not only the defense but is fully ingulfing the offense as well…………Therin lies the ” teamwork” or ” chemistry ” as I like to call it………….Through the years of watching, and studying college football, I have seen average teams do great things with chemistry [ see Boise State] . And one thing is for sure this year with the University of GEORGIA BULLDOGS, they are not any average team, they have talent, plus that winning edge………CHEMISTRY !!! GO DOGS !!! GATA !!! SIC’ ‘EM WOOOF……….WOOOF………….WOOOF……..WOOOF…..!!!!!!!!

All Cupcakes Conference

April 15th, 2010
12:19 am

“I think we can get 30!!!”

You can get 30 what, ramble on, twinkies into your fat piehole? No worries, you’re still skinnier than most of the NATS coeds.

BuLLdawg

April 15th, 2010
1:04 am

Sometimes, the problem with a program is that it has poor coaches, like we have in football.

25-6.

20-3 to Auburn I thought was inexcusable for a program that 3 times has been to the College World Series under David Perno.

25-6 is worse.

Don’t give me this discussion about 1-run games.

13-2 Alabama.
12-1 FSU.
17-5 FSU.
11-1 Kennesaw State.
20-3 Auburn.
19-3 Auburn.
15-5 LSU.
15-5 Climpsum Farmers.
14-6 Climpsum Farmers.
25-6 Georgia tek nerds.

10 games this season given up 161 runs.

Scored 37.

161-37.

161-37. That is just about what our record is against Georgia tek in Baseball at Foley Field in Athens, and we go out and lose.

10 games giving up 161 runs 16 runs a game for 10 of our games this season, already.

Scored 3 runs a game and give up 16.

16 to 3 score in double-digit of our baseball games.

ERA of entire Georgia Bulldogs’ Pitching Staff :

Cooper Moseley 5.19
Alex McRee 6.14
Steve Esmonde 7.06
Justin Earls 7.71
Chase Hawkins 8.37
Zach Laughlin 10.80
Patrick Boling 12.27 1
John Herman 13.50
Malcolm Clapsaddle 14.04
Eric Swegman 14.21
Blake Dieterich 14.77
Cecil Tanner 14.79
Evan Tieles 17.18
Ben Cornwell 20.25

That is a pitching coach issue. Fire him now Coach David Perno, sir, please.

Why do we have an 11-22 record for a team who started the season in the Top 25.

We are 0-16 in games in which we score 5 runs or fewer.

Duh.

We are 0-18 in games in which we are losing at the end of 6 innings.

We are 0-13 in games in which we gave up 10 runs or more.

Eric Swegman walked the 1st two batters of the game. They both scored. The game was over.

We pitched 10 pitchers.

We gave up 25 runs to Georgia tek nerds at Foley Field in Athens Georgia on TV tonight.

What good does it do to send the pitching coach out bobbing his head on TV jawing at the pitcher after he just walked to opening 2 batters in a row. 90 percent of the time you walk the leadoff hitter, he scores. We walked 14 Georgia tek batters tonight. 14. And, lost 25-6 to a team we hold an advantage on all-time of over 50 more wins than Georgia tek nerds in baseball.

Fire the pitching coach.

Fire him before 8 o’clock in the morning.

The opposing hitters are hitting .an average of 329 on the season against all UGA pitchers.

Oh, I forget. You are not allowed to say anything but positive spins on Georgia Bulldogs’ Sports in here. How silly of me to forget that.

We are better than Georgia tek. 25-6 and we’re the better team. How’s that ?

BuLLdawg

April 15th, 2010
1:44 am

QUOTE

by

SOGADOG

April 14th, 2010 11:05 am

“Under CMR:
UGA is 14-11 against SEC east opponents the last 5 years.
UGA is 2-7 against Florida
UGA is 3-8 against Florida and Tenn. the last five years.
UGA is 2-3 against Tenn. the last five years.
UGA has never beaten won all its SEC east games in a season
UGA has never beaten Tenn and Fla in the same season”

“We can always come up with old statistics to make ourselves feel good, but the cold hard fact is the Dawgs have not been competitive against SEC east teams the last five years. Unless they can start beating Florida and Tenn, there will be no more championships. I love the Dawgs, and I wouldnt trade CMR for any other coach, but lets not kid ourselves, the Dawgs need to improve against SEC east teams to play for championships.”

END QUOTE

YOU, sir, are NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT IN HERE.

You cannot discuss that we average on Offense 14 interceptions per year every year of the last 4 years in a row and now feature 3 freshmen QB and one 4-year QB whom the Offensive Coaching Staff and Head Coach want to move to WR, but he doesn’t want to with his 5 completions in his now 4th year career here, 0 TD passes and 2 interceptions. Aaron Murray has now thrown 5 Interceptions in the 3 scrimmages this Spring Practice. Is his arm still sore with his 5 overthrows on every one of his 5 deep passes in the G-Day Game ? We average 21 fumbles a year for the last 4 years in a row and had 5 more fumbles in the G-Day Game of 4 quarters lasting only 12 minutes each with officials told to call 1 penalty of the 15 committed – including 0 when Nick Williams was thrown out of the game by his Defensive Coordinator and when on the same play then Washaun Ealey in a bush league play punched him in the face in retaliation. We average Number 96 in Penalties every year of the last 4 years.

5 Years ago, we won The SEC Championship.

Adding that year to the total is not nearly as conclusive. And, it falsely reports 2005 as a bad year SOGADOG.

Sir.

10-10 last 4 years vs SEC East that is MY STAT

That is NOT a winning record, as you report for 5 years.

We LOST to ALL 5 SEC EAST OPPONENTS IN A ROW in the last 4 years.

Want to tell them when we last accomplished that ?

We are fixing to go 1-6 vs Urban Meyer.

In the last 4 years we are 1-3 vs BOTH Florida and the vols. The vols have SUCKED.

It is redundant to state that we have never beaten all SEC East teams in the Coach Richt Era ANY SEASON and to then say that we have NEVER beaten both Florida and the vols ANY SEASON of the Coach Richt Era. The point is that we have NOT been on the National Stage in the Coach Richt Era BEATING a Top 10 Final AP Poll team in ANY BOWL GAME the ENTIRE Coach Richt Era.

FACT : you don’t seem to get to SOGADOG, sir, we have a QB coaching TE who in game 12 of the 13-game season last year finally figured out to start Orson Charles with 23 catches not Aaron White who had 3 his freshmen year the year before; we have a great RB coaching WR who called for the football to be thrown to Marlon Brown 2 times all season yet is given credit for making AJ Green great – yeah right, he also had the ball thrown only 2 times to Branden Smith all season last year also inexcusable; we have a former WR for us whose DAD was a great RB for us one of the best ever for us, who is coaching RB; and we have an Offensive Coordinator whose claim to fame is being the QB coach at JAX State for 1 season; and now Coach Richt has admitted he cannot give him free reign like Bobby Bowden did him at FSU and has in public said that he will call the plays, name the QB, coach the QBs himself and determine every player on the Depth Chart HIMSELF in addition to doing something about getting the TEAM to beat Florida.

Coach Richt has 3 times beat a Top 10 Final AP Poll team David Greene in 2001 beat # 4 vols, DJ Shockley beat # 6 LSU for SEC Championship 5 years ago 2005, and Matthew Stafford beat # 9 Auburn in 2006. We have played 11 games vs Top 10 Final AP Poll teams in the Coach Richt Era and won 3.

PHIL

April 15th, 2010
4:01 am

I don’t ever read other schools blogs as many of you do. I have a question. Does any school have as many stupid people who claim to be fans? Or does UGA have a patent on that?

BuLLdawg

April 15th, 2010
6:07 am

UGA has the patent. Here is the perfect example above :

QUOTE :

“Fact…….UGA is clearly as good or better than any SEC team over last 9 years.”

QUOTE

by

patrick

April 7th, 2010 5:26 pm

“Fact……….UGA has 2 SEC titles..same as Fla in last 9 years and equal amount of total wins (90) over all.”

END QUOTE

91-27 LSU last 9 years all games total wins overall 2 NC

90-27 Florida last 9 years all games total wins overall 2 NC

90-27 UGA last 9 years all games total wins overall 0 NC

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And,

Florida is 7-2 vs. UGA. Read your B.S. certainly think otherwise.

LSU has MORE WINS than UGA and Florida in last 9 years (Coach Richt Era) and BOTH

LSU and Florida BOTH have Two (2) National Championships Coach Richt Era.

Therefore CLEARLY LSU & Florida BOTH have done BETTER than UGA last 9 yr

Alabama, now too, has passed UGA by – Reigning National Champions.

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QUOTE by Patrick

“Vs. SEC foes: 43-22”

Bold-faced LIE.

Coach Richt is

52-23 Coach Richt vs SEC foes, not 43-22.

AND :

56-19 Florida last 9 years (Coach Richt Era) vs SEC foes

53-23 LSU last 9 years (Coach Richt Era) vs SEC foes

52-23 UGA last 9 years (Coach Richt Era) vs SEC foes.

LIAR.

UGA is AGAIN 3rd best in The SEC vs SEC foes last 9 years

Where in the LIVING HELL did you get 43-22 ?

And, WHY discuss 43-22 in the 1st place WITHOUT proving how much

BETTER

BOTH

FLORIDA

AND

LSU again have been vs SEC foes last 9 years Coach Richt Era.

And, don’t forget that now Alabama has PASSED US BY TOO.

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QUOTE by Patrick :

“Record at home: 46-9”
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“Record on the road: 42-6 (including bowl games)”

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Try to be consistent Patrick.

If UGA vs SEC foes last 9 years is 43-22 you say, THEN :

UGA vs SEC foes last 9 years is

26 Home Wins LSU last 9 years vs SEC foes

24 Home Wins Florida last 9 years vs SEC foes

24 Home Wins Auburn last 9 years vs SEC foes

23 Home Wins Tennessee last 9 years vs SEC foes

22 Home Wins Alabama last 9 years vs SEC foes

22 Home Wins UGA last 9 years vs SEC foes.

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6th place UGA vs SEC foes in Home Wins last 9 years

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And, you talk about

HOME WINS

ROAD WINS

Last 9 years but FAIL again TOTALLY to point out the OTHERS :

What about the games NOT HOME and NOT ROAD vs SEC ?

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9-3 Florida Neutral site games last 9 years vs SEC foes

3-1 LSU Neutral site games last 9 years vs SEC foes

1-0 Auburn Neutral site games last 9 years vs SEC foes

1-1 Alabama Neutral site games last 9 years vs SEC foes

4-8 UGA Neutral site games last 9 years vs SEC foes

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5th place UGA vs SEC foes last 9 years Neutral Site Games.

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“Record at home 46-9”

LIAR.

UGA has Lost MORE than 9 games at HOME vs just SEC last 9 yrs

Date Opponent (record) Result Score Site

10/3/2009 vs. Louisiana State (9-4) L 13 20 home loss 1
11/21/2009 vs. Kentucky (7-6) L 27 34 home loss 2
09/27/2008 vs. Alabama (12-2) L 30 41 home loss 3
09/8/2007 vs. South Carolina (6-6) L 12 16 home loss 4
10/7/2006 vs. Tennessee (9-4) L 33 51 home loss 5
10/14/2006 vs. Vanderbilt (4-8) L 22 24 home loss 6
11/12/2005 vs. Auburn (9-3) L 30 31 home loss 7
10/9/2004 vs. Tennessee (10-3) L 14 19 home loss 8
09/8/2001 vs. South Carolina (9-3) L 9 14 home loss 9
11/10/2001 vs. Auburn (7-5) L 17 24 home loss 10

“Record at home 46-9”

Which of these 10 SEC LOSSES at Home are you

LEAVING OUT ?

And, let’s see last home game vs Georgia tek ?

11 LOSSES at HOME Patrick.

LIAR.

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“Record at home: 46-9”
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“Record on the road: 42-6 (including bowl games)”

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“Record on the road 42-6”

WHY DO YOU HAVE THIS BLIND SPOT FOR NEUTRAL SITES ?

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duh

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“Record at home: 46-9”
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“Record on the road: 42-6 (including bowl games)”

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If you ADD up your 2

88-15

Let’s see now. According to you Patrick

WHO MAKES UP EVERY LINE OF YOUR POST

ALL LIES

91-27 LSU last 9 years all games total wins overall 2 NC

90-27 Florida last 9 years all games total wins overall 2 NC

90-27 UGA last 9 years all games total wins overall 0 NC

90-27 minus your 88-15 leaves OUT 2-12

Where is this 2-12 record according to you Patrick ?

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LOOK, we are number 3, number 4, number 5, number 6 somewhere in there in The SEC last 9 years ANYWAY YOU SLICE IT.

Never mind we cannot get out of our own DIVISION of our own CONFERENCE.

There are a MYRIAD of teams doing FAR BETTER last 9 years

Not the least of which are

LSU

Florida

Only then Georgia in The SEC alone.

There are :

Texas

Boise State

Southern California

Oklahoma

Ohio State

LSU

Florida

We are NOT on the National Stage.

QUIT your lies.

You have been CALLED OUT on your LIES IN THIS POST

Patrick

Oh yeah Georgia has been as good or better than any SEC team in the Coach Richt Era with Florida 7-2 against him and 2 National Championships and LSU with more wins in the Coach Richt Era and 2 National Championships too. Then, Alabama passed us by too now and are the Reigning National Champions. But, according to this nimrod, UGA is as good or better than every team in The SEC, which certainly explains why we are 1-3 vs Florida the last 4 years and 1-3 vs the vols the last 4 years, too.

BuLLdawg

April 15th, 2010
6:23 am

PHIL – We have a patent on stupid fans. Does that make you feel better?

Reality

April 15th, 2010
7:35 am

25-6….How bout them DAWGS??????????

HAHAHAHAHA

April 15th, 2010
7:54 am

25-6 in Athens What a bunch of losers.

Joe

April 15th, 2010
8:23 am

hmmm…maybe Jon and Matt can shed some light on what has changed since they both left UGA…..it has been a downhill slide for 3-4 years now

Joe

April 15th, 2010
8:25 am

Hey Jackettes….enjoy the 25-6……even that doesnt compare to 51-7………or an even sweeter 30-24. We are having a down year in Baseball. You were having your best in football…….LMAO……

Dawghater

April 15th, 2010
8:26 am

AJC nor UGA can stand criticism….sad…very sad and the reason the Dogs are in the tank. Move to NY or Boston and try and take it easy on a program and watch what happens.

The NY press is much more effective and professional as compared to the AJC, and the reason they can sell more papers.

Dawghater

April 15th, 2010
8:29 am

Stinchcomb hit the nail on the head and the lack of discipline is the reason this program is in the tank. Everyone is in love with CMR, because there was nowhere to go but up when CMR arrived on the scene.

If you want to accept mediocrity to sell tickets fine, but do not boast about a program that is tanked. You now have to compete with Saban, Miles and Meyer, which will cost CMR his job in 2 years or less.

Get out of love with CMR had put some pressure on the program to win.

Dawghater

April 15th, 2010
8:39 am

Stick with Tennis and Gymnastics, and leave the big boy sports like football to USC, UT, UA, and UF. This is a level you cannot reach, so it is best to shoot for 8-4 each year.

Matter of fact, if CMR does not go 11-1 (1 being GT), which is excusable, this will cost him based on one of the easiest schedules in D-1.

“If you can’t run with the big dogs, stay off the porch.” Dogs need to stay on the porch.

the sec east

April 15th, 2010
8:40 am

Whatever you do, please dont fire CMR

Dawghater

April 15th, 2010
8:49 am

How is baseball working for you…..? Just another record set for victory. Head on back to the SEC (junior league) and pick up a few victories over there.

It is best for you to avoid FSU, VT and GT…this is major league.

It happens ....... look at Tarkenton and Kelley

April 15th, 2010
9:06 am

Fran Tarkenton and Jim Kelly never won the Super Bowl but they led teams there about 4 times EACH. Are they NFL failures??? I do not think so.

Mark Richt may never win the NC ( he will win the SEC East and the SEC Ch. from time to time ) but if we add only one or two wins per year to his average, then he will be like 9-1 every year. Folks, there must be some coaching legends that NEVER,EVER won a NC. Thta poor guy is probably at your ala mater ……….IF you even have one.

CMR is the current UGA coach. He, when comapred to Dooley and Donnan is far above their level and Dooley won a NC after about 17 or 18 years at UGA. He also won about 4 SEC Championships. He arrived in 1963 and won it in 80. It takes, skill, MOTIVATED PLAYERS and skill and motivated players and the intangibles ………like scheduling and luck to win the NC.

To say that “Richt is a loser” is to show your ignorance. Name one school that has won at least 8 games for 13 years in a row and soon to be 14 years in a row. Not Oklahoma, not Alabama, not Florida, not Southern Cal, not Michigan, not FSU, not Texas, not Nebraska, not Penn State, not Ohio State, NOR ANY SCHOOL has accomplished this record beyond UGA. Name one??

Tarkenton and Jim Kelly were two of the greatest NFL Qbs but they NEVER WON the Super Bowl. This is how you evaluate success. Richt might end up as a Jim Kelley type of coach. He played with him at Miami, co incidentally.

Gooooooooooooooooooooo Dogs.

Dawghater

April 15th, 2010
9:07 am

Actually I hear that most SEC coaches and GT are taking up a collection to extend CMR’s contract. Everyone who beats this program loves CMR, especially Meyer.

How is that UF vs. UGA record going for you?

ga gator

April 15th, 2010
9:11 am

Richt is not a loser by any stretch of the term. He is however making 3-4 million per year and it is only natural for the fan base to expect championships when you are paying that kind of salary.

Hal

April 15th, 2010
9:12 am

Guys,
Here we go again where I get embarrassed to be lumped in with a bunch of you um… guys as UGA fans. Some of Patrick’s statistics are questionable, no doubt he pulled some of them in haste. But his underlying theory is correct. At least twice if not 3 times we have had the team who sniffed the BCS Championship. Case in point:

2002 13-1 and finished the year hotter than any team in the country. The problem was two other very good teams ran wire to wire ranked #1 & #2. Stinks but that’s just the way it broke.

2005 11-3 but if you’ll recall, we lost DJ Shockley in the Arkansas game and he misses the Florida game. We lose to UF by 4 points with a walk-on backup QB and still go on to win the SEC Title. One could argue with a healthy DJ, we win not only the UF game but the Auburn game and play for the BCS. Keep your arguments about what WVU did to us in The Sugar Bowl, and I will ignore what Utah did to ‘Bama saying neither of us “wanted to be there”.

2007 11-2 and without any doubt we were the BEST team left at the end of the season. We lose twice in September and LSU loses twice in November…. shear luck or a lack thereof that both ours were in the east and LSU split their losses 1 east & 1 west to stay in the SEC Championship game.

Now, the problems…. YES we have a terrible issue with Florida. We can all speculate as to what it is but no one truly knows. It’s going to take wins, consecutive wins and both teams will start to believe the cycle is turning. Keep in mind, if we could have won last year we would have split the previous 6. As it is now we’re 2-4 in the last 6. Hey if UF fans and media can pick when they start recording history (IE they start @ 1990, when they started winning) we can too. We need 2 straight, period.

Tennessee has always been back and forth with UGA, probably not going to change much. We’ll win one and they will. We’ll get ours.

LSU we’re dead even with

Bama has only beaten CMR once, sure they had a magical season last year and earned every accolade… but that doesn’t make the “program” better than ours. Shoot we all know Lord Sabanator won’t even be there in 3 years.

Auburn, Carolina, Kentucky, Ole Miss…. they’ve all beaten Florida, Tennessee and ‘Bama (with the exception of KY) too so does that mean the end of their football programs too? Or do we just want to over-react to our program?

Darn guys, yes they have some shiny trophies in glass cases that they were very lucky to win. They worked hard, kept their noses in it and got there. We will too. But stop being such marks to point out everything bad about UGA Football.

Everyone of us that has watched our teams play knows the last 2 or 3 seasons we have slid slowly backward in terms of defensive prowess. We were under BVG a team that other teams feared playing. Some of that stayed in CWM’s early days but by the time BVG’s touch had completely dissolved and it was Willie’s D… we were in trouble. We saw it, and Mark saw it and he went and fixed it.

So can we play some football before you bury the guy? Currently, he is the BEST coach in the country w/o a ring as a HC. The Best… and UGA IS the BEST program in the last 9 seasons w/o a NC… Be glad, be proud that as long as CMR is our coach we walk into any stadium on any day against any team and expect to win. Remember in ‘07 when we were begging USC to play us in the Rose Bowl? Ever hear UF beg for that game? I’ve not.

We’ll get ours, and if Grantham is Mark’s Erk…. it’ll be sooner rather than later!

Goo Dawgs!

SaintsLSU

April 15th, 2010
9:19 am

You tell em Jon. Team first is the way to win. Finish Strong! Im sure you know about that phrase. You are on the best TEAM in the league, with the best LEADER in Drew Brees, and the best CITY of New Orleans. You will forever be remembered in Saints History. Well, it would be cooler if you had went to LSU, but hey, nobodys perfect, LOL. At least you are a SEC brother UGA. Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers!!!

ga gator

April 15th, 2010
9:28 am

Hal, you had me until you brought up the 2007 season. You lose to who, Tenn and SC, finish 2nd in the SEC East and then think you should play for the NC? Not hardly.

F.A.C.T.S.

April 15th, 2010
9:29 am

UGA facts:

SEC under Richt, 2001-05 = 32-11
SEC under Richt, 2006-09 = 20-12

vs AU-FL-TN 2001-05 = 7-8, 2006-09 = 6-6
vs ARK-KY-MS-MST-VANDY 2001-05 = 17-0, 2006-09 = 9-3
VS AL-LSU-SC 2001-05 = 8-3, 2006-09 = 5-3

UGA is in decline
UGA beats up on the hapless teams of the SEC
UGA is below .500 against AU-FL-TN
Since 2005 UGA is 9-3 against the lower-tier of the SEC
Since 2005 UGA is 11-9 against the upper tier of the SEC
UGA is a good football program, second-tier, but certainly not first-tier.

Gunner Dog

April 15th, 2010
9:35 am

If you really think Georgia will not be a competitor for you, you wouldn’t be wasting hours a day on this blog, now would you? we all know your true feelings.

urban meyer wouldn’t schedule georgia on his 2 weeks bye if he wasn’t afraid f mark richt.

dream on.

we all know the truth.

FB

April 15th, 2010
9:43 am

I have participated in the countdown to kickoff events for several years. You will not find better people than Jon and Matt Stinchcomb. Both will speak to you by name and thank you for participating in the fundraisers. They spend a lot of time helping put this event together.
I thank them both!

Gunner Dog

April 15th, 2010
9:57 am

if richt has a 100 yard rusher, he’s 40-3.

if richt has 0 turnovers, he’s 15-0.

not real hard to see how georgia will win 14 games in 2010.

yeah whatever!

April 15th, 2010
10:01 am

UNDER Richt

Vs. SEC foes: 52-23

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Vs. Top 25 foes: 29-18
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Vs. Top 25 foes away from home: 18-12
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Vs. Top 10 foes: 8-6
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In postseason games (bowls and championships): 9-3
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In games decided by a touchdown or less: 34-14
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Record at home: 46-10
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Record on the road: 42-6 (including bowl games)
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Losses to unranked teams: 6
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Top 25 finishes: 8
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Top 10 finishes: 6
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Fact:………UGA was 12-1 in 2002 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Fla was 12-1 in 2006 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Not UGAs fault there were 2 unbeatens that year. “unlucky”
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Fact……….Not Flas credit that there was only one unbeaten in 2006. “Lucky”
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Fact:………Luck (not merit) had more to do with Fla getting an invite to the BCS not that Fla was more deserving to go to a NC than UGA with identical records.
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Fact:………No SEC team has ever lost a BCSNC game and if UGA would have been invited nothing indicates that it would have been different
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Fact……….UGA has 2 SEC titles..same as Fla in last 9 years and equal amount of total wins (90) over all.
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Fact……….UGA has been ranked more times top ten in last 9 years than any SEC team at 6. Fla has only been ranked top ten 3 times in 9 years (real impressive).
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Fact……….In 9 years under Richt the only SEC team with more wins is LSU

Fact………..UGA has won 4 str8 bowls….more than any other SEC team.
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Fact……..UGA has won 11 of last 13 bowls…Thats more than any team (tied with LSU and more than FLA)
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Fact…… UGA has won 8 or more games in last 13 years…more than any other team in the nation including Fla.
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Fact…….UGA is clearly as good or better than any SEC team over last 9 years. Only a fool or a fan of the mythical BCSNC selection process (non playoff) would think otherwise.
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Fact…….UGA had same record when they won the SEC title in 2002 as Fla did in 2006/8 when they won the SEC title. But UGA had the misfortune (luck) to have that record in a year that had 2 other teams with undefeated records.
Hardly an indictment on UGA but rather on the NC selection process.
6 times finished in the top 10
2 times finished in the top 3
3 SEC Championship Appearances
2 SEC Titles
3 BCS Bowls
2 Sugar Bowl wins
90-27 record over 8 seasons – 79% winning percentage (one of only 7 in the history of college ball to have ever accomplished this)
4 str8 bowl wins
7-2 in bowls (big games)
Mark Richt coached QB coach for Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke = 2 Heismans; Head Coach for David Greene = all time winningest college QB until Colt McCoy this year); and coached Matthew Stafford = very rich #1 draft pick)
No Probations
He has my respect.
Period.

corrections noted by BuLLdawg added

yeah whatever!

April 15th, 2010
10:05 am

“record at home 46-10″ thanks BuLLdawg for the updated numbers. The ones I was using was from ESPN of the week prior to the ALA game in 2008 when they compared Saban to Richt. Here is the link
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So not lying just didnt properly extrapolate the numbers from then. Now go argue with the world wide leader in sports. Moron

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/467/nick-saban-vs-mark-richt

yeah whatever!

April 15th, 2010
10:08 am

but here is more about Saban and Richt for your entertainment BuLLdawg.

Nick Saban went 6-5, 6-6, 6-6, 7-5 at Mich St.

He went 8-5 at LSU 2x

He went 7-6 at Alabama.

Saban has gone 5-3 or worse in conference 8 times.

Richt has only gone 5-3 or worse in conference 3 times in his first 9 years.

Compare that to Saban’s record and consistency in his 1st 9 years.

Richt has NEVER had a 7-6 or 6-6 season, Saban’s done it 5 times, including once at Alabama.

Reality Check

April 15th, 2010
10:19 am

Reading these recent comments, it seems as though SOME Georgia fans are coming to the conclusion that Richt won’t take the program to the promised land. The rest of you will settle for 2nd or 3rd best.

Coach Cool

April 15th, 2010
10:20 am

25-6.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Hal

April 15th, 2010
10:22 am

@ga gator…
I didn’t say WE should have. I understand the argument against us. I said LSU as compared to UGA at that point was no better a team, season or record than UGA had. They were EXTREMELY lucky which is something UGA has NOT been, in hanging a trophy in their case that year. Look at who LSU loss to in consecutive games at the END of their season, Kentucky and Arkasas… both .500 teams

the truth hurts sometimes

April 15th, 2010
10:28 am

UGA facts:

SEC under Richt, 2001-05 = 32-11
SEC under Richt, 2006-09 = 20-12

vs AU-FL-TN 2001-05 = 7-8, 2006-09 = 6-6
vs ARK-KY-MS-MST-VANDY 2001-05 = 17-0, 2006-09 = 9-3
VS AL-LSU-SC 2001-05 = 8-3, 2006-09 = 5-3

UGA is in decline
UGA beats up on the hapless teams of the SEC
UGA is below .500 against AU-FL-TN
Since 2005 UGA is 9-3 against the lower-tier of the SEC
Since 2005 UGA is 11-9 against the upper tier of the SEC
UGA is a good football program, second-tier, but certainly not first-tier.

UGA fans head for the exits in the 5th inning

April 15th, 2010
10:30 am

!!–25-6–!!
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!!–25-6–!!

Hal

April 15th, 2010
10:37 am

@the truth hurts sometimes:
you’re correct in that we have been in a 2 or 3 year decline under CWM’s defense. But you’ll also like to know that in Meyer’s first 5 seasons he lost 9 games as well. He was lucky enough to win 2 titles true enough, but lets see how he does without St Tebow who imho was as good as Herschel walker in terms of dominating the game for 3 years while he was there. If Mark had had a Tebow or a Walker, he’d have his 2 or 3 titles as well.

Hal

April 15th, 2010
10:41 am

and btw, just because a few other SEC teams passed us on the way up, like Bama and UF…. doesn’t mean that UGA is in eternal decline. It means those teams got good. Unlike LSU who has been luckier than good, those 2 teams have had unbelievable seasons. Don’t discount what they accomplished by saying UGA is bad…. putting us down kind of makes you’re arguments a little weaker dumb a$$es….

it's just a crapshoot out there

April 15th, 2010
10:41 am

Hal

April 15th, 2010
10:37 am
@the truth hurts sometimes:
you’re correct in that we have been in a 2 or 3 year decline under CWM’s defense. But you’ll also like to know that in Meyer’s first 5 seasons he lost 9 games as well. He was lucky enough to win 2 titles true enough, but lets see how he does without St Tebow who imho was as good as Herschel walker in terms of dominating the game for 3 years while he was there. If Mark had had a Tebow or a Walker, he’d have his 2 or 3 titles as well.

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this is the funniest post I’ve read in a while. man that Meyer was just darn lucky and poor Richt has just been unlucky.

lack of reality

April 15th, 2010
10:46 am

crapshoot: what you’re witnessing is the disillusioned fan base that is UGA. Reality plays no role in the mindset of these people. Knowledgeable college football fans know the pecking order of the elite football programs, and UGA is nowhere near the top. IIRC this team went 8-5 last season, including a win in the Shreveport Bowl, there will be a rookie starting QB and several holes to fill on both sides of the ball, but it doesn’t matter because the dawgs were just unlucky or they would have beaten Florida!

Go Dawgs –woof-woof

Hal

April 15th, 2010
10:55 am

@lack of reality
you guys are the delusional ones… I never said UGA was in an elite state at the moment. I do argue and correctly I might add, that even though gator fans won’t admit it we have been close. They forget that they backed in when OSU lost late which they didn’t do for us when we were ranked 3rd. Tiger fans forget that they lost twice in the final 3 weeks of the season in ‘07. That is what I mean by lucky… and yes I would rather BE lucky than good in most cases.

You have hardware and you can and should celebrate that. Truthfully UGA has been hideous for at least 2 seasons, and the occasional meltdowns IE: ‘Bama first half ‘07 in Athens has been the case sine BVG left.

But you buffoons that argue that UGA is 2nd tier or irrelevant do two things: A) you weaken you own arguments as to how good your own teams are and B) You prove that wins and losses during the season don’t mean anything. You can discount what Mark has done in Athens as being over if you want to, but if you were smart, you’d hold those opinions to see what happens on the field the next season or 2. Tech fans could give you guys some advise on this subject… don’t talk too much shyt based on a season or 2 of unfulfilled promise. We’ll be back.

SaintsLSU

April 15th, 2010
11:18 am

Hal, the Kentucky game was mid October, the Arkansas game was late November. 6 weeks apart. UGA should have beaten Tenn that year and you would have had a shot at LSU. I admit, UGA was playing some great football toward the end of the ‘07 season, but it dosent matter. Win your division. We did. Geaux Tigers!

Hal

April 15th, 2010
11:42 am

oh crap you right… well that makes all the difference in the world! LMFAO…… you lost to the 2 worst teams in the 2 divisions that year. And you still can’t admit that it was luck that you played for the marbles. Look at the number of teams that lost in front of you that allowed it…. keep in mind LSU entered that last weekend ranked 7th…. 7th!!!!

The point is, UF & LSU has had some very good fortune in their respective runs. Overall records are almost identical to UGA’s over the same time period. ‘Bama… they flat earned theirs last year, can’t discount that. But both you two have been lucky where UGA just hasn’t. If you can’t see that then you’re blinded by tiger pyss….

SaintsLSU

April 15th, 2010
11:58 am

Hal, I never said it did not take some luck. It was shocking to see WVU lose to Pitt at home. And the other teams ahead of us were you and Va Tech, who we beat 48-7 earlier that year. I would have loved to play UGA in the SEC Championship, because those were the two best teams in the SEC and country that year. But the chips fell where they did, and I am very happy about it. So keep on complaining about your team does not get any breaks. You sound like a whinney Falcons fan after the Saints won the Superbowl, Oh wait, you probably are a Falcons fan. My condolances for you having to watch your arch rival win the big one, LOL. Anyway, enough arguing. Im sure we can both agree, that in ‘07 LSU and UGA had very fine football teams, and it worked out in LSU’s favor. Both of our past two years have been unacceptable to our standards, and need to chase Bama/Florida. Geaux Tigers!

termigator

April 15th, 2010
12:31 pm

Hal, its typical for you to use the luck word. If UGA would of taken care of business in 07 by either beating SC or Tenn they would of played for the SEC Championship. Instead it was woulda coulda shoulda.

John Wooden

April 15th, 2010
12:32 pm

Always said I would rather be lucky than good.

Hal

April 15th, 2010
2:06 pm

@termigator,
you must have gone to UF and learned cognition there. I didn’t blame our losses on bad luck, I said for what seems like the 10th time… UF and LSU where beneficiaries (that means y’all benefited from) of GOOD LUCK whereas UGA did not have the same fortune with identical and even better schedules and records on their respective seasons. I know gators have thick skins, but didn’t realize it had grown into your ears as well…

yeah whatever!

April 15th, 2010
2:31 pm

ummmm UGA is in decline over last 4 years?????

Wait a minute I am confused.

Didnt UGA finish SECOND IN THE NATION in 2007?

Isn’t 2007 within the last FOUR YEARS?

Didnt UGA finish 10th/13th in 2008?

So in last 4 years UGA has finished 4th and 10th and thats a decline????

Wow where was UGA ranked higher than SECOND IN THE NATION before that you would claim that SECOND IN THE NATION is a decline.

Wouldn’t UGA have to have finished at NUMBER ONE IN THE NATION at some point for SECOND IN THE NATION to be a decline. Some people are kinda ……well moronic.

Hal

April 15th, 2010
3:20 pm

@yeahwhatever…
its semantics to say we aren’t experiencing a decline overall.
‘07= #2
‘08= #10
‘09= #432

so yeah we’re declining. It’s debatable as to whether or not it’s a 4 year decline depending on what one personally measures as success. IE: yes we finished #2 in ‘07, but failed to win the east let alone the SEC. So if you prefer banners, then the decline goes back to ‘05.

We’ve had an erosion of defensive prowess that yes we even experienced in 2007. If not for that erosion we would have almost certainly played for the BCS that year. But what was sporadic (the defensive meltdowns) became the norm over the course of years.

So yes my friend, as much as I hate to admit it… we have been in a state of decline for a couple seasons at least.

Joe

April 15th, 2010
3:41 pm

So now the NCAA is banning messages on eye black…..they can do that now that Teblow is gone…..they would have never done that if he were still here-…

Tony

April 15th, 2010
4:11 pm

like what stinchomb said about accountability.

hopefully richt will hold murray ‘accountable’ for throwing those 3 interceptions in the spring scrimmages by dropping him on the depth chart.

1 interception every 17 passes will put murray on track to beat out joe cox’s year.

Dawghater

April 15th, 2010
8:19 pm

yeah whatever!

Saban has 2 national titles to his name, CMR has none. You cannot defend your program, and fans like you are the reason that UGA is the joke of D-1 football.

No major media outlet respects this program, and matter of fact, you dropped 2 consecutive weeks from your number 1 ranking with wins…what does that tell you? Hello?

yeah whatever!

April 15th, 2010
8:24 pm

national titles? Its interesting to note that UF and LSU have won national titles with the same record UGA had when it won its two SEC titles. Its not that UGA is not as good of a program as either of the two, they have just been luckier than UGA. And that’s the truth.
.
You dont seem very knowledgeable

BS Patrol

April 15th, 2010
8:46 pm

This entire matter reeks of luckism.

Sec observor

April 15th, 2010
10:01 pm

yeah whatever!,

Its all luck that UF and LSU won those titles? If that makes you feel better than feel free to believe it.

As for 2007 LSU lost 2 double ot games on the road to bowl teams. Georgia got beat at home by a bowlless and unranked Carolina team and got blown out by a UT team that lost by LSU by 10 in the seccg. Championship teams may lose a game or even 2. But championship teams do not get BLOWN OUT the way UGA got BLOWN OUT by UT.

Last, LSU also had a quality ooc win in whupping VT which ended up 4th in the country. They not only beat them beat beat them 48-7. Now shut up delusional dawg fans. We’re all tired of your whining and your bool sheet.

Tony

April 16th, 2010
12:25 am

It’s not real hard.

Richt is 40-3 when he gets a 100 yards rusher, and 62-7 when the defense hold the other team to 19 ot less points.

Focus.

RED DOG 77

April 16th, 2010
12:40 am

” BuLLdawg ” aka ” Miss Debbie Downer ” aka ” yeLLoW jACkeT ” Why might I ask are you picking on Patrick ? Have you forgotten about me ?………..”BuLLdawg”…..my dear friend I’m lonely for your mean-spirited jabs at me………All I can say is, ” BuLLdawg”………….What about me ? Have you forgotten the good times we have had ?………Have you forgotten the ” she said, she said ” ? or the ” he said he said ” ?………..Come back to me “BuLLdawg” and lets fight some more…………..I promise, I will hide behind my keyboard !! Regards, RED

yeah whatever!

April 16th, 2010
12:55 am

ummmm SEC what happened at LSU the very next year?

Hal

April 16th, 2010
8:18 am

@Sec Observor…
if you’re tired of it, then why subject yourself to it by coming and reading OUR blog? You did see the headline right? If not surely the name of the blog didn’t escape you? I mean, I know you guys are fairly stupid but dang….

You’ll never find my tail on anything called “tigerblog” or “gatorbait” etc. Because I’m smart enough to know that it’ll be riddled with guess who??? You got it, tiger fans or gator fans respectively(that means in order). I bet your one of those idiots when you come to a game in Athens you wander why all the guys in the stands have on Red aren’t you?

Wipe the drool off your chin you retard, and turn the stop stick around to “slow”…. traffic is backing up at your construction site while you read OUR blog.

Tony's Mentor

April 16th, 2010
9:23 am

Yea its not real hard Tony; what was Richts record vs a very poor coach in Ron Zook?

FOCUS

TommyJack

April 16th, 2010
10:11 am

Lousy thread this time.

Stuart

April 16th, 2010
10:20 am

Those of you that releasing facts, come up for air.

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April 17th, 2010
1:08 am

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uuugh...

April 17th, 2010
1:31 am

Lo Siento Amigos for my previous post…Bill has had me blocked for a long while and I was testing.

Dawghater…I am in no way defending the AJC because their coverage is not good. But saying the AJC is worse than periodicals in Boston or New York solely based on sales is just not fair. Both of those cities have a higher populaion much less dispersed geographically than Atlanta. Your post was idiotic. methinks you hate the dawgs so badly that you are lashing out at the messenger, ignorantly at that.

Stinchcombs = DGDs. Baileys = DGDs..though in a less public manner.

Richt is a good coach and I believe he is here for the long haul…which is good for us Dawg fans. While we may not have reached the heights of a Saban or Meyer quickly with their 5-6 year views of their career stops (I see them both as Petrinos only with a bit of patience), I think Richt genuinely has a 1 stop mentality. By that I mean narrow the peaks and valleys across 2-3 years while increasing the quality of the program consistently over 25 years. The Martinez stage was indeed a debacle and a step back…but I think we are still in a better spot than we have been. I have been a Richt critic for a long while because his style is not Saban’s or Meyer’s that brings immediate results. I continue to question his ability to instill disciline to a bunch of, frankly, rowdy kids, however, I recognize that coaches like Bowden and Paterno don’t look at coaching for the short term.
They see coaching from a long term program perspective…and if Richt will stay as long as he says he plans to stay, the best is yet to come. Further, when i gets to that point, we won’t see these down years anymore.

Stick with it Coach Richt…I am a Richt doubter that is beginnig to believe! Make it happen coach!

GaGator

April 18th, 2010
8:14 am

yeah whatever!

SAID……..

Fact:………UGA was 12-1 in 2002 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Fla was 12-1 in 2006 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Not UGAs fault there were 2 unbeatens that year. “unlucky”
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Fact……….Not Flas credit that there was only one unbeaten in 2006. “Lucky”
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Fact:………Luck (not merit) had more to do with Fla getting an invite to the BCS not that Fla was more deserving to go to a NC than UGA with identical records.

I guess I would be paranoid too if I loss to the Gators 17 out of 20 years.

Just take a pill and get over it. Oh, did I tell you Florida is loaded again, may
want to sell those Jacksonville tickets.

NashDawg

April 18th, 2010
10:10 am

Stats are for the past. The future is what counts and lets see what happens now that we have a new def coordinator and CMR paying more attention to the offense like he did before Bobo. I suspect will start doing just fine and for beating Tenn. Are you kidding it is going to take a long time for those folks to get their act together.

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So True

April 19th, 2010
12:26 am

What could we have done without these three great UGA families ?: Robert and Terrence Edwards, Matt and Jon Stinchcomb, Ronald, Champ, and Boss Bailey ? Not much.