Talent not enough to win championships, Saints’ Stinchcomb says

Jon Stinchcomb was named to the Pro Bowl this past season. (New Orleans Saints)

Jon Stinchcomb was named to the Pro Bowl this past season. (New Orleans Saints)

UGA football fans’ favorite brothers, the Stinchcombs, were at the Touchdown Club of Athens meeting this week, Matt on hand to introduce featured speaker Jon of the Super Bowl-winning New Orleans Saints.

As you’d expect with brothers, there was some good-natured sibling rivalry. Matt told the assembled fans that he’d been excited to be asked to speak to the club … until he discovered it was just to talk about his little brother.

Jon, a Pro Bowl selection who looks to be about twice the size of Matt these days, was there to talk about what makes a championship team. He recalled his sophomore year at UGA when the 2000 roster was loaded with NFL-caliber talent, with the likes of Quincy Carter, Marcus Stroud, Richard Seymour, Charles Grant, Jonas Jennings, Boss Bailey, Kendrell Bell and so on.
Coach Jim Donnan told the team that “if you can’t win a national championship with talent like that, you should get out of coaching,” Stinchbomb said, pausing for a moment before adding: “That was Coach Donnan’s last year as coach.”

The problem, Stinchcomb said, was that despite all that talent, the Dogs “didn’t win because we didn’t play as a team.”

The key to a great team, Stinchcomb said, is accountability. That came into play in 2002 when Georgia was playing at Auburn for a trip to Atlanta and the SEC championship game. After a pretty poor first half, Mark Richt remembers he was trying to figure out what he was going to say to get the team fired up when he heard the loud voice of Stinchcomb doing it for him. Among other things — most of which Stincomb laughingly admitted he didn’t want to repeat — the player asked his teammates to look the guy next to them in the eyes and vow to win it for him.

Another factor in the turnaround after Richt became Georgia’s coach, Stinchcomb said, was that the players worked harder. He still smarts at the memory of the first day of mat drills, in which the players are graded on their efforts. Stinchcomb’s grade was a “D.” That was a new experience for the noted scholar-athlete. “I’d never made a ‘D’ in anything in my life!” In fact, he joked, looking over at Richt, “I’m still a little bit contentious about it.”

Jon Stinchcomb likes to remind his brother Matt that he scored against Auburn. (University of Georgia)

Jon Stinchcomb likes to remind his brother Matt that he scored against Auburn. (University of Georgia)

The same lessons have applied in New Orleans, he said, where the team and the community have bonded tightly in a way similar to college football programs in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. But while he said he’s proud of being on the Super Bowl champion, Stinchcomb drew a big cheer from the Athens fan gathering when he noted, “I’m a Saint for this period of my life, but I’ll always be a Bulldog.”

Asked his favorite moment from his UGA playing career, Stinchcomb cited two. The first was the 2001 come-from-behind win at Knoxville. He said it was “the loudest stadium I’ve ever heard” until after the Dogs scored the winning touchdown, at which point “it was the quietest stadium I’ve ever heard.”

The other UGA highlight was that Auburn game in 2002. Stinchcomb turned to brother Matt sitting beside the podium and drew a laugh when he said, “I scored a touchdown in that game, Matt. I don’t know if I told you.”

As Richt noted in thanking the Stinchcombs’ parents, who were on hand, Jon and Matt are two of the best UGA football has produced, both on and off the field. In the latter regard, the Stinchcombs, along with pal David Greene, are again putting on the Countdown to Kickoff event to raise funds for children’s healthcare charities, with this year’s fan day featuring Dogs present and past set for July 17 at the practice fields in Athens.

Another example of accountability.

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Hal

April 15th, 2010
10:22 am

@ga gator…
I didn’t say WE should have. I understand the argument against us. I said LSU as compared to UGA at that point was no better a team, season or record than UGA had. They were EXTREMELY lucky which is something UGA has NOT been, in hanging a trophy in their case that year. Look at who LSU loss to in consecutive games at the END of their season, Kentucky and Arkasas… both .500 teams

the truth hurts sometimes

April 15th, 2010
10:28 am

UGA facts:

SEC under Richt, 2001-05 = 32-11
SEC under Richt, 2006-09 = 20-12

vs AU-FL-TN 2001-05 = 7-8, 2006-09 = 6-6
vs ARK-KY-MS-MST-VANDY 2001-05 = 17-0, 2006-09 = 9-3
VS AL-LSU-SC 2001-05 = 8-3, 2006-09 = 5-3

UGA is in decline
UGA beats up on the hapless teams of the SEC
UGA is below .500 against AU-FL-TN
Since 2005 UGA is 9-3 against the lower-tier of the SEC
Since 2005 UGA is 11-9 against the upper tier of the SEC
UGA is a good football program, second-tier, but certainly not first-tier.

UGA fans head for the exits in the 5th inning

April 15th, 2010
10:30 am

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Hal

April 15th, 2010
10:37 am

@the truth hurts sometimes:
you’re correct in that we have been in a 2 or 3 year decline under CWM’s defense. But you’ll also like to know that in Meyer’s first 5 seasons he lost 9 games as well. He was lucky enough to win 2 titles true enough, but lets see how he does without St Tebow who imho was as good as Herschel walker in terms of dominating the game for 3 years while he was there. If Mark had had a Tebow or a Walker, he’d have his 2 or 3 titles as well.

Hal

April 15th, 2010
10:41 am

and btw, just because a few other SEC teams passed us on the way up, like Bama and UF…. doesn’t mean that UGA is in eternal decline. It means those teams got good. Unlike LSU who has been luckier than good, those 2 teams have had unbelievable seasons. Don’t discount what they accomplished by saying UGA is bad…. putting us down kind of makes you’re arguments a little weaker dumb a$$es….

it's just a crapshoot out there

April 15th, 2010
10:41 am

Hal

April 15th, 2010
10:37 am
@the truth hurts sometimes:
you’re correct in that we have been in a 2 or 3 year decline under CWM’s defense. But you’ll also like to know that in Meyer’s first 5 seasons he lost 9 games as well. He was lucky enough to win 2 titles true enough, but lets see how he does without St Tebow who imho was as good as Herschel walker in terms of dominating the game for 3 years while he was there. If Mark had had a Tebow or a Walker, he’d have his 2 or 3 titles as well.

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this is the funniest post I’ve read in a while. man that Meyer was just darn lucky and poor Richt has just been unlucky.

lack of reality

April 15th, 2010
10:46 am

crapshoot: what you’re witnessing is the disillusioned fan base that is UGA. Reality plays no role in the mindset of these people. Knowledgeable college football fans know the pecking order of the elite football programs, and UGA is nowhere near the top. IIRC this team went 8-5 last season, including a win in the Shreveport Bowl, there will be a rookie starting QB and several holes to fill on both sides of the ball, but it doesn’t matter because the dawgs were just unlucky or they would have beaten Florida!

Go Dawgs –woof-woof

Hal

April 15th, 2010
10:55 am

@lack of reality
you guys are the delusional ones… I never said UGA was in an elite state at the moment. I do argue and correctly I might add, that even though gator fans won’t admit it we have been close. They forget that they backed in when OSU lost late which they didn’t do for us when we were ranked 3rd. Tiger fans forget that they lost twice in the final 3 weeks of the season in ‘07. That is what I mean by lucky… and yes I would rather BE lucky than good in most cases.

You have hardware and you can and should celebrate that. Truthfully UGA has been hideous for at least 2 seasons, and the occasional meltdowns IE: ‘Bama first half ‘07 in Athens has been the case sine BVG left.

But you buffoons that argue that UGA is 2nd tier or irrelevant do two things: A) you weaken you own arguments as to how good your own teams are and B) You prove that wins and losses during the season don’t mean anything. You can discount what Mark has done in Athens as being over if you want to, but if you were smart, you’d hold those opinions to see what happens on the field the next season or 2. Tech fans could give you guys some advise on this subject… don’t talk too much shyt based on a season or 2 of unfulfilled promise. We’ll be back.

SaintsLSU

April 15th, 2010
11:18 am

Hal, the Kentucky game was mid October, the Arkansas game was late November. 6 weeks apart. UGA should have beaten Tenn that year and you would have had a shot at LSU. I admit, UGA was playing some great football toward the end of the ‘07 season, but it dosent matter. Win your division. We did. Geaux Tigers!

Hal

April 15th, 2010
11:42 am

oh crap you right… well that makes all the difference in the world! LMFAO…… you lost to the 2 worst teams in the 2 divisions that year. And you still can’t admit that it was luck that you played for the marbles. Look at the number of teams that lost in front of you that allowed it…. keep in mind LSU entered that last weekend ranked 7th…. 7th!!!!

The point is, UF & LSU has had some very good fortune in their respective runs. Overall records are almost identical to UGA’s over the same time period. ‘Bama… they flat earned theirs last year, can’t discount that. But both you two have been lucky where UGA just hasn’t. If you can’t see that then you’re blinded by tiger pyss….

SaintsLSU

April 15th, 2010
11:58 am

Hal, I never said it did not take some luck. It was shocking to see WVU lose to Pitt at home. And the other teams ahead of us were you and Va Tech, who we beat 48-7 earlier that year. I would have loved to play UGA in the SEC Championship, because those were the two best teams in the SEC and country that year. But the chips fell where they did, and I am very happy about it. So keep on complaining about your team does not get any breaks. You sound like a whinney Falcons fan after the Saints won the Superbowl, Oh wait, you probably are a Falcons fan. My condolances for you having to watch your arch rival win the big one, LOL. Anyway, enough arguing. Im sure we can both agree, that in ‘07 LSU and UGA had very fine football teams, and it worked out in LSU’s favor. Both of our past two years have been unacceptable to our standards, and need to chase Bama/Florida. Geaux Tigers!

termigator

April 15th, 2010
12:31 pm

Hal, its typical for you to use the luck word. If UGA would of taken care of business in 07 by either beating SC or Tenn they would of played for the SEC Championship. Instead it was woulda coulda shoulda.

John Wooden

April 15th, 2010
12:32 pm

Always said I would rather be lucky than good.

Hal

April 15th, 2010
2:06 pm

@termigator,
you must have gone to UF and learned cognition there. I didn’t blame our losses on bad luck, I said for what seems like the 10th time… UF and LSU where beneficiaries (that means y’all benefited from) of GOOD LUCK whereas UGA did not have the same fortune with identical and even better schedules and records on their respective seasons. I know gators have thick skins, but didn’t realize it had grown into your ears as well…

yeah whatever!

April 15th, 2010
2:31 pm

ummmm UGA is in decline over last 4 years?????

Wait a minute I am confused.

Didnt UGA finish SECOND IN THE NATION in 2007?

Isn’t 2007 within the last FOUR YEARS?

Didnt UGA finish 10th/13th in 2008?

So in last 4 years UGA has finished 4th and 10th and thats a decline????

Wow where was UGA ranked higher than SECOND IN THE NATION before that you would claim that SECOND IN THE NATION is a decline.

Wouldn’t UGA have to have finished at NUMBER ONE IN THE NATION at some point for SECOND IN THE NATION to be a decline. Some people are kinda ……well moronic.

Hal

April 15th, 2010
3:20 pm

@yeahwhatever…
its semantics to say we aren’t experiencing a decline overall.
‘07= #2
‘08= #10
‘09= #432

so yeah we’re declining. It’s debatable as to whether or not it’s a 4 year decline depending on what one personally measures as success. IE: yes we finished #2 in ‘07, but failed to win the east let alone the SEC. So if you prefer banners, then the decline goes back to ‘05.

We’ve had an erosion of defensive prowess that yes we even experienced in 2007. If not for that erosion we would have almost certainly played for the BCS that year. But what was sporadic (the defensive meltdowns) became the norm over the course of years.

So yes my friend, as much as I hate to admit it… we have been in a state of decline for a couple seasons at least.

Joe

April 15th, 2010
3:41 pm

So now the NCAA is banning messages on eye black…..they can do that now that Teblow is gone…..they would have never done that if he were still here-…

Tony

April 15th, 2010
4:11 pm

like what stinchomb said about accountability.

hopefully richt will hold murray ‘accountable’ for throwing those 3 interceptions in the spring scrimmages by dropping him on the depth chart.

1 interception every 17 passes will put murray on track to beat out joe cox’s year.

Dawghater

April 15th, 2010
8:19 pm

yeah whatever!

Saban has 2 national titles to his name, CMR has none. You cannot defend your program, and fans like you are the reason that UGA is the joke of D-1 football.

No major media outlet respects this program, and matter of fact, you dropped 2 consecutive weeks from your number 1 ranking with wins…what does that tell you? Hello?

yeah whatever!

April 15th, 2010
8:24 pm

national titles? Its interesting to note that UF and LSU have won national titles with the same record UGA had when it won its two SEC titles. Its not that UGA is not as good of a program as either of the two, they have just been luckier than UGA. And that’s the truth.
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You dont seem very knowledgeable

BS Patrol

April 15th, 2010
8:46 pm

This entire matter reeks of luckism.

Sec observor

April 15th, 2010
10:01 pm

yeah whatever!,

Its all luck that UF and LSU won those titles? If that makes you feel better than feel free to believe it.

As for 2007 LSU lost 2 double ot games on the road to bowl teams. Georgia got beat at home by a bowlless and unranked Carolina team and got blown out by a UT team that lost by LSU by 10 in the seccg. Championship teams may lose a game or even 2. But championship teams do not get BLOWN OUT the way UGA got BLOWN OUT by UT.

Last, LSU also had a quality ooc win in whupping VT which ended up 4th in the country. They not only beat them beat beat them 48-7. Now shut up delusional dawg fans. We’re all tired of your whining and your bool sheet.

Tony

April 16th, 2010
12:25 am

It’s not real hard.

Richt is 40-3 when he gets a 100 yards rusher, and 62-7 when the defense hold the other team to 19 ot less points.

Focus.

RED DOG 77

April 16th, 2010
12:40 am

” BuLLdawg ” aka ” Miss Debbie Downer ” aka ” yeLLoW jACkeT ” Why might I ask are you picking on Patrick ? Have you forgotten about me ?………..”BuLLdawg”…..my dear friend I’m lonely for your mean-spirited jabs at me………All I can say is, ” BuLLdawg”………….What about me ? Have you forgotten the good times we have had ?………Have you forgotten the ” she said, she said ” ? or the ” he said he said ” ?………..Come back to me “BuLLdawg” and lets fight some more…………..I promise, I will hide behind my keyboard !! Regards, RED

yeah whatever!

April 16th, 2010
12:55 am

ummmm SEC what happened at LSU the very next year?

Hal

April 16th, 2010
8:18 am

@Sec Observor…
if you’re tired of it, then why subject yourself to it by coming and reading OUR blog? You did see the headline right? If not surely the name of the blog didn’t escape you? I mean, I know you guys are fairly stupid but dang….

You’ll never find my tail on anything called “tigerblog” or “gatorbait” etc. Because I’m smart enough to know that it’ll be riddled with guess who??? You got it, tiger fans or gator fans respectively(that means in order). I bet your one of those idiots when you come to a game in Athens you wander why all the guys in the stands have on Red aren’t you?

Wipe the drool off your chin you retard, and turn the stop stick around to “slow”…. traffic is backing up at your construction site while you read OUR blog.

Tony's Mentor

April 16th, 2010
9:23 am

Yea its not real hard Tony; what was Richts record vs a very poor coach in Ron Zook?

FOCUS

TommyJack

April 16th, 2010
10:11 am

Lousy thread this time.

Stuart

April 16th, 2010
10:20 am

Those of you that releasing facts, come up for air.

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April 17th, 2010
1:08 am

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uuugh...

April 17th, 2010
1:31 am

Lo Siento Amigos for my previous post…Bill has had me blocked for a long while and I was testing.

Dawghater…I am in no way defending the AJC because their coverage is not good. But saying the AJC is worse than periodicals in Boston or New York solely based on sales is just not fair. Both of those cities have a higher populaion much less dispersed geographically than Atlanta. Your post was idiotic. methinks you hate the dawgs so badly that you are lashing out at the messenger, ignorantly at that.

Stinchcombs = DGDs. Baileys = DGDs..though in a less public manner.

Richt is a good coach and I believe he is here for the long haul…which is good for us Dawg fans. While we may not have reached the heights of a Saban or Meyer quickly with their 5-6 year views of their career stops (I see them both as Petrinos only with a bit of patience), I think Richt genuinely has a 1 stop mentality. By that I mean narrow the peaks and valleys across 2-3 years while increasing the quality of the program consistently over 25 years. The Martinez stage was indeed a debacle and a step back…but I think we are still in a better spot than we have been. I have been a Richt critic for a long while because his style is not Saban’s or Meyer’s that brings immediate results. I continue to question his ability to instill disciline to a bunch of, frankly, rowdy kids, however, I recognize that coaches like Bowden and Paterno don’t look at coaching for the short term.
They see coaching from a long term program perspective…and if Richt will stay as long as he says he plans to stay, the best is yet to come. Further, when i gets to that point, we won’t see these down years anymore.

Stick with it Coach Richt…I am a Richt doubter that is beginnig to believe! Make it happen coach!

GaGator

April 18th, 2010
8:14 am

yeah whatever!

SAID……..

Fact:………UGA was 12-1 in 2002 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Fla was 12-1 in 2006 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Not UGAs fault there were 2 unbeatens that year. “unlucky”
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Fact……….Not Flas credit that there was only one unbeaten in 2006. “Lucky”
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Fact:………Luck (not merit) had more to do with Fla getting an invite to the BCS not that Fla was more deserving to go to a NC than UGA with identical records.

I guess I would be paranoid too if I loss to the Gators 17 out of 20 years.

Just take a pill and get over it. Oh, did I tell you Florida is loaded again, may
want to sell those Jacksonville tickets.

NashDawg

April 18th, 2010
10:10 am

Stats are for the past. The future is what counts and lets see what happens now that we have a new def coordinator and CMR paying more attention to the offense like he did before Bobo. I suspect will start doing just fine and for beating Tenn. Are you kidding it is going to take a long time for those folks to get their act together.

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So True

April 19th, 2010
12:26 am

What could we have done without these three great UGA families ?: Robert and Terrence Edwards, Matt and Jon Stinchcomb, Ronald, Champ, and Boss Bailey ? Not much.