Dogs need better showings in big games

Mark Richt's program has slipped the past couple of years against Top 25 opponents. (University of Georgia)

Mark Richt's program has slipped the past couple of years against Top 25 opponents. (University of Georgia)

I wrote last week about how Georgia’s win-loss record over the past decade looked pretty good overall and against nonconference and BCS conference opponents. But if there’s one area that gives credence to the notion that Mark Richt’s program has slipped a bit, it’s in the big games, the ones against teams that finish the season ranked. In that regard, the Dogs have been only middling.

Chris Low of ESPN.com has taken a look at how SEC teams have fared over the past five seasons against teams that finished in the Top 25 of the final polls, either the AP or the coaches’ poll. As a whole, the SEC, generally considered the strongest football conference by just about any criteria, didn’t show up as well as you might have expected, with only two conference teams, Florida (14-9) and LSU (13-11), having winning records against Top 25 teams in the final polls.

Meanwhile, Arkansas, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Tennessee, South Carolina and Vanderbilt managed five or fewer wins against the final Top 25.

The Dogs did better than that. Georgia and Auburn tied for fourth place with 8-12 records, behind Alabama, which was 10-12.

That’s not too bad overall, but the trend is what has caused most of the criticism of Richt over the past couple of seasons. The Crimson Tide are 7-2 over the past two seasons and went 5-0 during their 2009 national championship season, Low points out, while Georgia has gone the other direction, posting a 2-6 mark against the final Top 25 over the last two seasons.

As the Dogs move ahead with a revamped defensive staff, Richt will be judged this coming season primarily on his team’s overall record. Will they get at least 10 wins? Will they end the season ranked, preferably in the Top 10?

But, really, the key indicator of whether Richt is getting his program back on track will be how they do against teams that wind up the year among the ranked elite. If the Dogs continue to come up short more often than not in those games, there might be more shake-ups still to come.

TAKING THE LONG VIEW ON METTENBERGER

I was off Monday and away from the Blawg when the story of Zach Mettenberger’s underage drinking arrest broke, and I can’t argue with most of what’s been said in the various online venues. It was a dumb thing for him to do, though not unusual for an 18-year-old college kid. But most 18-year-olds with fake IDs (two!!??) and a hankering to drink aren’t on full scholarship and aren’t locked in a competition for starting quarterback on a high-profile team.

(As for the most prevalent question in the wake of his arrest — why on earth he’d be spending spring break in Valdosta — Buck Belue reports that Mettenberger was in town to see some old high school buddies play in the Valdosta State spring game.)

Mettenberger’s expected suspension for at least one game pretty much precludes him being the starter in the opener, and might even make him third-string. Beyond that, he’ll have to convince his coaches that he’s capable of making better decisions than he did this past weekend.

Of course, unless the vast majority of football analysts are wrong, Mettenberger likely wasn’t going to be the starter at the beginning of this season anyway.

But the fact remains that while Aaron Murray looks like the frontrunner, he missed a lot of work last year and has a bit of a history with injuries. And Logan Gray, well, when you’ve already had discussions with your coaches about possibly switching positions, that’s not exactly a ringing endorsement of your future prospects.

So despite the general view that Mettenberger is something of a long-term “project” — a kid who has a big arm but needs to improve in a lot of areas of the game — circumstances could dictate that his time comes sooner, rather than later.

Let’s hope he takes this setback in stride and rededicates himself to being more than just another dumb 18-year-old. Because as Rex Robinson put it, “We may need him down the road.”

TWO DOGS MAKE TOP 100 LIST

Speaking of Murray, he was one of two Georgia players to crack the list of Top 100 College Players to Watch compiled by ESPN’s Joe Schad, coming in at No. 58. A.J. Green, who ranked No. 11, was the other. Alabama had seven players make the list, Oklahoma had six and Florida and North Carolina had four each.

131 comments Add your comment

noah

March 9th, 2010
11:41 am

def. needs to change

Thirty Points to your Twenty-Four Points

March 9th, 2010
11:41 am

Well, the Dawgs almost always show up for THE biggest game on one team’s schedule………

{{{{{30-24}}}}} hahahahahahaahhaha!!

It hurts you nerds SO much more than you will EVER admit!!!!

8-1
60-39-5
We Run This State

Cuz

March 9th, 2010
11:41 am

And then there were two.

TuckDAWG

March 9th, 2010
11:47 am

CMR has some work to do so some of the criticisim is deserved but we will bounce BACK!!!! and Zach needs to use his head. GATA!!! GO DAWGS!!! oh yeah and FIRST

TuckDAWG

March 9th, 2010
11:48 am

L-Dawg

March 9th, 2010
11:50 am

Bill….

YOU RE AWFULLY NEGATIVE THESE DAYS. CHEER UP. SPRING IS KICKING IN.

1 MONTH AND 1 DAY UNTIL G-DAY!!!

GLORY GLORY TO OLE’ GEORGIA!!!!

GO DAWGS!!!!

{{{{{30-24}}}}}
8-1
60-39-5
WE RUN THIS STATE

RxDawg

March 9th, 2010
12:15 pm

“In that regard, the Dogs have been only middling.”

Yeh, I guess. But how does everyone else stack up against that kind of stat? My guess would be…..middling.

RxDawg

March 9th, 2010
12:19 pm

Nevermind, I see you posted that. But even the mighty Gators aren’t jumping off the page with a 14-9 record.

ga gator

March 9th, 2010
12:34 pm

RxDawg I would not think any team (any conference) would jump off the page in this particular stat. That is why some sort of playoff would be nice.

SOUTH GA DAWG

March 9th, 2010
12:55 pm

Our time is coming young people!!!!! GATA DAWGS

Oh no, Bill

March 9th, 2010
1:06 pm

You are dumping gasoline on BuLLDawg’s fire! Lord help us!!!

Mike

March 9th, 2010
1:10 pm

The numbers do not lie. Even CMR’s FSU glory days as an offensive coach, FSU lost many, many BIG games. I remember several FSU meltdowns against Miami and Florida. Stop drinking the Kool Aid and start looking at the numbers.

DirtyNastyDawg

March 9th, 2010
1:24 pm

The dawgs are back once again getting drunk and locked up those were the days of CMR winning some SEC Titles thats a good sign for The Dawgs. If any technerd wants to meet at the 50 yard line this year and punch it out in Athens let me know

Falcon66

March 9th, 2010
1:26 pm

A statement wasa made that the SEC didn’t fare very well. These records are very misleading because a significant amount of these top 25 games are these teams actually playing each other. How many of UGA’s losses are against SEC teams. It doesn’t say anything about the strength of the SEC overall. Don’t mean a thing!

Elliot Garcia

March 9th, 2010
1:26 pm

Georgia is not really a high profile team…

Tailback U

March 9th, 2010
1:29 pm

Bill
Very good comments about the Dawgs shortcomings in the big
games. As much as the overall record is vital CMR has got
get the team winning the big games on a much better percentage,
or we will be looking at mid level bowls and little else.
That’s never going to cut it with the fan base nor should it.
The SEC has it’s down season every now and then but on the
whole just gets tougher and tougher to compete in the upper
echelon. This means less room for error than in the past
when it comes to decisions that can come back to bite you
for an extended space of time. As far as Met it is quite
the shame and as you have noted it could be a pretty far fall
from grace, at least in short haul.

LAKE OCONEE DAWG

March 9th, 2010
1:30 pm

Elliot Garcia:
Now that is a really stupid bit of news you just laid on us….You must have been hiding under a rock…You need a couple luke warm enemas to get your system back in order and to clear your mind…..

Techster

March 9th, 2010
1:35 pm

@DIRTYNASTY Georgia sucks and i would love to meet you at the 50 yard line to punch you in the face. Martha Richt will never win anything. He scared to fire BOZO THE Clown of a coordinator you have in BOBO. BCS bowl for us and a bowl game in louisiana for you so who run this state.

kydawg

March 9th, 2010
1:37 pm

Falcon66 has a good point…what is the breakdown between SEC Top 25 head-to-head games and Non-conference Top 25 games?

BurningRedBleedingBlack

March 9th, 2010
1:41 pm

ga gator i agree, playoff would be really nice especially the way this year in the SEC is gearin gup to be. can’t wait hope everyones team dodges those injury bugs.

NCAA

March 9th, 2010
1:58 pm

Techster, Do they teach english at Tech?

Jeff

March 9th, 2010
2:00 pm

Techster — strong words from a fan of a sissy program that sometimes struggles to beat Virginia, Duke, Wake Forest or UNC.

And if I recall, “Martha Richt” beat your team’s gold and white butts on YOUR home turf last November.

And for the record: I think it is VERY impressive that all these SEC teams HAVE 20, 22, 25 games against top-25 teams in a five year span… a lot of Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, Big Easy, and atlantic crappy conference teams may only have ONE, possibly two, games against ranked teams each year… this proves that SEC teams have 4, 5, 6 each season.

This shows once again why the SEC is the strongest overall football conference, top to bottom.

Oh, hey, Techster, just FYI… in Georgia’s last few games against ACC teams? We’ve won 8 of 9 vs. Ga. Tech, we dominated Va. Tech in a bowl game a couple years ago, beat FSU in the Sugar Bowl, have beaten Virginia several times in bowls…. need I go on? And other than Tech beating Vandy or Miss. State, what have ACC teams done against the SEC?

Carolina beat much-higher-regarded and ranked Clemson this year.
UGA thumped top-10 Tech.
Florida owns FSU.
Clemson and Va. Tech have both lost to Alabama.
Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

SEC is the best! Good luck to the ‘Dawgs and ALL our SEC bretheren this season!!!

SOGADOG

March 9th, 2010
2:01 pm

CMR’s main weakness is his performance against SEC East teams during the last five years, particularly Fla, and Tenn. If the Dawgs are going to win a National Championship, they have to win the SEC championship, and if they are going to win the SEC championship, they must win the SEC East championship. In the last 5 years, the Dawgs are only 14-11 against SEC East teams, 1-4 against Fla. and 2-3 against Tenn. CMR has never beaten Fla and Tenn in the same year either. CMR needs to focus on beating SEC East teams, especially Fla and Tenn, if he wants to reach the goal of winning SEC and Natl Championships.

NCAA

March 9th, 2010
2:01 pm

Football in a basketball conference, easy BCS.

Jim

March 9th, 2010
2:04 pm

Bill K — I have not looked. How many of the losses came in the last two years?

Too tough 44

March 9th, 2010
2:17 pm

Hey :MetDAWG……this was not a mistake, IF! YOU LEARNED FROM IT! HANG IN THERE! GO DAWGS !

Too tough 44

March 9th, 2010
2:18 pm

HEY METDAWG! THIS WAS NOT A MISTAKE IF YOU LEARNED FROM IT! GO DAWGS!!!!

FinanceBuzz

March 9th, 2010
2:19 pm

Only two teams with a winning record against top 25 teams? It is surprising only because the SEC is all about marketing hype. Reality proves – yet again – that the SEC is not heads and shoulders above other conferences. Sure, they are very good but so are most of the other BCS conferences except perhaps the Big East. The SEC aura is more about marketing. Most years the SEC is the big one or two and the rest of the conference – just like most other BCS conferences.

Calhoun Vol

March 9th, 2010
2:24 pm

THE DAWGS TIME IS COMING BABY! 14 – 6 (most not even CLOSE), the last 20 years and that was before Da’Rick! More beat down’s to come. Ya’ll should keep braggin’ about beatin’ schools that don’t care about football (where they care more about academics or basketball) Tech, Vandy and Kentucky, oh sorry not KENTUCKY, lol. What a national power! lol.

McDawg

March 9th, 2010
2:25 pm

so 7 or 8 of those are against UF-2 were against LSU-1 against Bama maybe a couple from UT or Auburn

lies, dang lies, and statistics

Dawg in Valdosta

March 9th, 2010
2:25 pm

Dawg 39

March 9th, 2010
2:27 pm

AGREED: The Dawgs need to beat teams from the SEC East before they can accomplish anything else. I THINK I see that happening. Also, you need to be lucky as well as good to win in the SEC.

Joe

March 9th, 2010
2:35 pm

What does the “M” in “MNC” stand for? Shouldn’t it just be “NC”, or “BCS NC” ? I just see that all the time on these blogs and I have always wondered

Bow Wow

March 9th, 2010
2:40 pm

Richt’s teams are noted for having great talent (look at the number of NFL players from UGA, non graduates, I might add) and a total lack of discipline on and off the field. Don’t expect that to change, except that Alabama and Auburn have already decimated Richt’s talent pool.

Tenn 45-19

March 9th, 2010
2:51 pm

And this just in…….Tennessee scores again!
Tennessee 45 Pups 19

SEC FANATIC

March 9th, 2010
2:51 pm

Don’t give them facts! They don’t want no stinkin’ facts!!!

BG

March 9th, 2010
2:53 pm

Well, I am so happy that Mark Richt is 8 -1 over the tech nerds!!!!!!

goalinestalker

March 9th, 2010
2:54 pm

Are we gonna always look at where teams are ranked at the end of the season or where they are ranked when we play the game? When we finished #2 in 07.I guess UT and Carolina can say they beat the #2 team in the country? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard! What is his record against the top 25 the day of the game not where they finish the season.

SEC FANATIC

March 9th, 2010
2:56 pm

Better to let sleeping (and dreaming) Dawgs lie.

Scott W.

March 9th, 2010
2:57 pm

This isn’t really news to anyone who watches UGA football.

Chris

March 9th, 2010
2:59 pm

“Tenn 45-19″ wait till this year. What a loser.

SEC FANATIC

March 9th, 2010
2:59 pm

They all think that Bama and Florida’s going to be down this year and somehow, they’re gonna be up…please don’t confuse them with facts and reality!

SEC FANATIC

March 9th, 2010
3:01 pm

Livin’ in a dream world!

Mikey

March 9th, 2010
3:06 pm

I think the M in MNC stands for mythical…

SEC FANATIC

March 9th, 2010
3:09 pm

And the “U” in UGA stands for “unrealistic”. Of course, you could also say that about the “U” itself.

goalinestalker

March 9th, 2010
3:10 pm

This is a fair comparison of CMR’s body of work at UGA compared to a really good coach and program.

SABAN
Vs. SEC foes: 35-16
Vs. Top 25 foes: 17-13
Vs. Top 25 foes away from home: 9-8
Vs. Top 10 foes: 6-6
Vs. Top 10 foes away from home: 5-3
In postseason games (bowls and championships): 6-2
In games decided by a touchdown or less: 19-9
Record at home: 35-8
Record on the road: 16-11
Losses to unranked teams: 9
Top 25 finishes: 4
Top 10 finishes: 2

RICHT
Vs. SEC foes: 43-17
Vs. Top 25 foes: 24-13
Vs. Top 25 foes away from home: 17-8
Vs. Top 10 foes: 7-4
Vs. Top 10 foes away from home: 6-4
In postseason games (bowls and championships): 7-3
In games decided by a touchdown or less: 25-14
Record at home: 40-7
Record on the road: 27-4
Losses to unranked teams: 5
Top 25 finishes: 7
Top 10 finishes: 5

HAHA

March 9th, 2010
3:12 pm

goalinestalker

Saban

National Championships = 2

Richt

National Championships = 0

goalinestalker

March 9th, 2010
3:14 pm

Wow really tool bag?

HAHA

March 9th, 2010
3:16 pm

goalinestalker

Tool bag? Are you still in highschool?

The D

March 9th, 2010
3:16 pm

AJ green #58 on the top 100, wow Joe, wonder if your secretary made this list for you. Keep kissing butts at ESPN dooche

The D

March 9th, 2010
3:16 pm

He should be in the top 20 at least.

uga1962

March 9th, 2010
3:17 pm

Well said Jeff. The URINE & WHITE are a joke of a football team and they play in a joke of a conference. They can’t even win a bowl game. Yes, they played in a BCS bowl game and they got their butts handed to them by Iowa. We did not play in a BCS bowl game but at least we showed up and won.

goalinestalker

March 9th, 2010
3:19 pm

How about sketchbag? I know Saban has 2 NC. Just trying to show where the program is compared to a good coach and program.

uga1962 is an idiot

March 9th, 2010
3:19 pm

The acc may be a joke, but so are the non-BAMA,LSU,UF SEC teams

SEC Dominance = BAMA, LSU, UF

The Wannabes = UGA et al

#1 BAMA FAN

March 9th, 2010
3:21 pm

goallinestalker….IT IS ABOUT THE CHAMPIONSHIPS. SEC, NATL, SEC East or West…RTR

HAHA

March 9th, 2010
3:23 pm

goalinestalker

It’s a moot point – irrespective of how well Richt has matched up against Saban, statistically speaking, it is pointless

When Richt wins a national championship then make the comparisons… until then your comparing the two is like comparing Reggie Miller to MJ

Sketchbag? You seriously need some lessons in ‘trash-talk’

goalinestalker

March 9th, 2010
3:31 pm

Trying to keep it rated PG…Im saying the guy is avg 10 wins a season! If it wasn’t for ESPN and 2 loss Miles crying on national tv,we would have won it all in 07! We got worked by the media! We will catch a break like the rest of the teams that have backed into the NC game soon. At least Bama ran the table. Not like UF or LSU.

Top Dawg

March 9th, 2010
3:33 pm

HAHA:

Would head to head matchups be a releveant statistic in your eyes?

HAHA

March 9th, 2010
3:34 pm

goalinestalker

Realistically, how many regular season wins does UGA get this year?

Remember….realistically…..(i.e., still no starting QB appointed, new DC who is unproven in the SEC, no Rennie…..)

uga1962

March 9th, 2010
3:37 pm

To uga1962 is an idiot: If I’m an idiot then so is alot of other sports fans and sports analyst. Also, I believe South Carolina, which is a non BAMA,LSU,UF team, beat one half of your ACC elite, Clemson and the other non BAMA,LSU,UF team, which is UGA, beat your ACC chumpions, the URINE & WHITE. So who’s the idiot here. I believe it’s you. Our mediocre beat your best.

HAHA

March 9th, 2010
3:37 pm

Top Dawg

Ofcourse it is relevant, but I just don’t think that it is fair to make a comparison between Saban and Richt while Saban sits with two NC’s and Richt hasn’t won one – I understand what Goaline did it, but I think it is misleading….

question, if Bama plays UGA next year in the regular season (in Athens or Tuscaloosa), who wins?

Tenn 45-19

March 9th, 2010
3:38 pm

Chris-

All time UT-UGA record:
Tennessee 22 victories Pups 15 victories.
Who’s your daddy?!
Tennessee 45 Pups 19

uga1962 is an idiot

March 9th, 2010
3:41 pm

How soon you forget – In 2008 UGA was preseason #1 and was beaten at home by a 3 loss GT who was under a first year head coach running a ‘highschool’ offense and Richt had two weeks to prepare

And clearly USCe beating Clemson was a fluke (and in 2008, Clem squashed USCe who nearly beat you that year)

Clem all-time record against USCe
65-38-4

goalinestalker

March 9th, 2010
3:48 pm

Good question? 8 or 9 depends on the D. We don’t open on the road against a top 10 team like last year. Oh wait OSU didn’t finish in the top 25. With the running game and 10 starters back on Off we will not have a problem scoring. Our non conf schedule is very avg and we get UF post Tebow.

Debose

March 9th, 2010
3:48 pm

“Im saying the guy is avg 10 wins a season! If it wasn’t for ESPN and 2 loss Miles crying on national tv,we would have won it all in 07!”

What did ESPN or Miles have to do with the Tennessee beatdown and the South Carolina folly which made the Dawgs tied in the East with the Vols which led to the tiebreaker going to Tennessee?

Scott W.

March 9th, 2010
3:54 pm

2008 UGA – GT game was in the rain and you had a ground based attack (GT) against a fairly split offense (UGA) and Tech only won by 3. Weak.

goalinestalker

March 9th, 2010
3:57 pm

Nothing at all! We played into the #4 spot in the polls and one and two lost in front of us! We got jobbed we were ranked ahead of both UT and LSU by what took place on the field! There is the problem some how ESPN started with this “your not in your conf champ game so how can you play in the nc game crap!” Bottom line we played our way into that ranking and the same clowns who voted us into the #4 spot backed off and let #7 LSU jump everybody after losing at home against UNRANKED Ark! In fact LSU lost 2 in the same span UGA won 7 in a row…You dont lose your last home game of the season to a unranked team and play for the NC? ESPN put them there!

uga1962

March 9th, 2010
4:00 pm

To uga1962 is an idiot: The 45-42 was a fluke. 8 out of 9 is no fluke. I like the way you use the word “nearly”. I can say I “nearly” won the lottery.

Tim T.

March 9th, 2010
4:00 pm

Dawg 3/20

March 9th, 2010
4:04 pm

Newsflash – The rankings are updated after conference championship games.

BCS committee

March 9th, 2010
4:11 pm

2009 – Bama, SEC Champions vs. Texas, Big 12 Champion
2008 – Florida, SEC Champions vs. Oklahoma, Big 12 Champion
2007 – LSU, SEC Champions vs. Ohio State, Big 10 Champions
2006 – Florida, SEC Champions vs. Ohio State, Big 10 Champions
2005 – Texas(12-0), Big 12 Champions vs, USC(12-0), Pac 10 Champions

See the pattern, win your conference title and be undefeated or have 1 loss then you can have a chance to get in the National Title Game

goalinestalker

March 9th, 2010
4:12 pm

Wow…really? Tell that to Stoops and OK they played in the NC game without winning there conf?

What If

March 9th, 2010
4:14 pm

the Dawgs don’t improve on 8-5 this year ?

Will fans be okay with it and optimistically be looking forward to next year, as usual ?

UGA Snubbed Again by ESPN

March 9th, 2010
4:17 pm

Ding. Bias #12,342 by ESPN against UGA.

2 players on this list?

No Ealey? No Charles? No Branden Smith?

What’s new?

6 Top 10 Finishes Not Enough?

March 9th, 2010
4:21 pm

1) None of the other SEC Coaches have been around as long as Richt at one school. Low fails to mention this IMPORTANT difference.
2) In the end, wins count the most, not individual match-ups. Just Chris Low finding another way to diss UGA.
3) 6 top 10 finished at 1 place. Find another SEC coach who’s done that in the last 9 years.

This stat is as useless as Urban Meyer’s record against Auburn being 0-2.

76-Dawg

March 9th, 2010
4:35 pm

The top 25 rankings at the end of the year are a joke. Georgia would have beaten at least half of the final poll. When each team of the SEC has to play 5 or 6, really, top 12 teams every year and then each team has to play maybe 3 more team that are good enough that they should end in the bottom half of the polls you are going to have 2 to 5 losses at the end of the year and many SEC teams that don’t make the final top 25 poll are better than 10 to 15 teams who only has 2 or 3 losses and end up in the final poll. The only SEC that shouldn’t have been in the final poll was Vanderbilt,Mississippi State, and maybe Arkansas. To much consideration is given to win loss record and not enough on who the teams play. One example is when Florida killed Cincinnati in their bowl and Cincinnati ended up 8th. GA, TENN, LSU, AUBURN, ALABAMA, MISS, and maybe SC and KY could have all beaten Cincinnati in a bowl game.The final poll had 4 SEC teams in the it . WHAT A JOKE.

WHO CARES

March 9th, 2010
4:38 pm

BLA BLA BLA OH YEAH, 30-24 all year.

Still better to be a Dawg

March 9th, 2010
4:54 pm

Whats sad is that 4 of florida’s top 25 wins probably were against the dawgs.

UA Alum92

March 9th, 2010
5:03 pm

BCS Committee, absolutely spot on post.

atlien052

March 9th, 2010
5:15 pm

Mike said, “The numbers do not lie. Even CMR’s FSU glory days as an offensive coach, FSU lost many, many BIG games. I remember several FSU meltdowns against Miami and Florida. Stop drinking the Kool Aid and start looking at the numbers.”

CMR lost 13 games in 10 years as the FSU coordinator (1990-99). If you say that 13 games in 10 years is “many, many BIG games” then you need to have your head examined.

HanDAWG

March 9th, 2010
5:28 pm

That is very good analysis but in reality, we need to fix only 2 major trends to skew that number to where it should be: BEAT FLORIDA at least half the time and win EVERY big HOME game. Remaining state champs is also vital, but we’ve done okay in that series. Road losses in the SEC hurt but are not one of our glaring problems. http://www.bighairyblawg.com

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

March 9th, 2010
5:30 pm

Still Better, and 6 of CMR’s top 25, losses are to the Hated Gators. Solve the Gator problem and solve all of Ga’s problems. Of course, that is not an easy task, but yes it’s sill better to be a Dawg

oakwood dawg

March 9th, 2010
5:39 pm

ok all you know it all’s. let’s go ahead and fire richt now and we can bring back donnon as head coach and goff can be the o.d. and man the the good days are back the not ranked every year days and all the great recuits going to tenn and fl while we sit around and cry about no players wanting to come to athens and play, man i wouldn’t want to play for you crybabies either, and before you get all crazy i bleed red and black everyday. oh and if you haven’t noticed bama is being investagated by the ncaa and we all know it will come out one day that florida is cheating tebow probley got a condo at the beach and some cash every week in an envelope from the alum at fl. but hey let’s call the press conference and send richt packing and weclome back jimbo and ray ray man can’t wait for next season. go dogs.

Thuga

March 9th, 2010
5:56 pm

Well boys, the plan to destroy ourselves is working. Lets go out there and be stupid in public and get our season started right. We want to be number 1 this year in arrests and ya’ll are already making us coaches proud. Don’t worry, you may have to sit out a few minutes or run an extra lap but it’ll be OK. When I was at Free Shoes U, we excelled at the good stuff. We just want to show our slobbering humping fans how we do it “dawgy style” now in Athens. See you at the club!

Greg

March 9th, 2010
5:59 pm

Is 2-6 the past two years really surprising when 3 of those 6 losses came to UF and Bama, teams that have dominated the conference the past two years. Another of those top 25 losses came to GT(the only time they’ve beaten us this decade after we relaxed with a 16 pt lead at halftime). Another loss came in the closing seconds vs LSU in a game that turned on a horrible calls by the officials after it appeared that we had the game won. What was the other one? At OK State? Tough opening game on the road….they could have very easily finished in the top 10 if they hadn’t lost Dez Bryant mid-year and he was the guy who beat us on that day.

ozzfest

March 9th, 2010
6:00 pm

WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH HUTSON MASON….I THOUGH A PARADE ALL-AMERICA WOULD MAKE WAVES ON A TEAM WITH NO APPARENT QB?

NO ONE EVER SEEMS TO MENTION THE DUDE.

shane#1

March 9th, 2010
6:26 pm

I spoke my piece about Mett yesterday, so I am letting go of that. The kid screwded up and most likely cost himself the slim chance he had of starting this season. Richt’s record against top teams is understandable, that’s why they are top teams. Florida and UT are bitter rivals of UGA, they might go to sleep against an Ol’ Miss or UK, but they are wide awake when the Dawgs show up. Fulmer owned the Dawgs untill Richt came to Athens, and Richt is the first UGA coach to beat the Gators more than once since Dooley.

never dull

March 9th, 2010
6:31 pm

One thing everyone should agree on, the comments on Junkyard Blawg are usually better than the story.

DP

March 9th, 2010
6:31 pm

“As a whole, the SEC, generally considered the strongest football conference by just about any criteria, didn’t show up as well as you might have expected”

I’m not sure what you expected. When 2 SEC teams in the top 25 play each other the outcome will be 1-1 for the league. When the lower echelon teams like Vandy and Miss. St. play SEC teams rated in the top 25 they’ll generally lose and that will be 0-1 for the league for each of those games. So the SEC (or any other league) overall will start out with a big negative record on this measure before out of conference games are considered.

Take this year for example. There were 4 SEC teams in the final top 25. The rest of the SEC went 0-9 against Alabama, 1-8 against Florida, 3-5 against LSU and 4-4 against Ole Miss. That’s an 8-26 record for SEC teams against top 25 teams inside the conference. A lot of the out of conference games against top 25 teams for the league will be a non-ranked SEC team (since 2/3 of the teams weren’t ranked in the final poll) against a top 25 non-SEC team while fewer will be a top 25 SEC team against an out of conference top 25 team.

Every conference will have a lousy overall record on this meaningless measure.

dawgfan

March 9th, 2010
6:33 pm

Its not that we’re just losing big games. We’re getting absolutely CREAMED in big games. We haven’t been able to even stay on the field with the SEC’s best the past two seasons. I shudder to think at what Bama would have done to us if we had crossed paths with them last year. It would have been a bloodbath.

I don’t mind losing to teams like Florida and Bama that end up winning the national championship. I do however have a problem when they absolutely blow our doors off and humiliate us on national TV. That should never happen to us. I repeat NEVER. Spare me any excuses about injuries, Joe Cox, or Willie Martinez. Those excuses don’t hold any water when Bama is up 30-0…AT THE HALF!!! Those excuses don’t hold any water when Florida drops almost half a hundred on us two seasons in a row. And my god almighty what drug were our players on in last year’s Tennessee game? Hey fellas, you think they might run a bootleg again? They’ve only been doing it the entire freaking game. Holy bejeebus what an embarrassing performance. That was the worst of all the beatdowns over the past two seasons handsdown. Say what you will about Martinez, but the players simply looked disinterested.

Long story short, we’re not going to win them all. But what I’ve seen over the past two seasons is an absolute disgrace. Nobody should ever handle us like that. Never ever ever in a million years.

No excuses please. Leave that to the Techies.

yeah right

March 9th, 2010
6:40 pm

actually, UGA is 9-3 in championships and bowls not 7-3……..2-1 in SEC title games and 7-2 in bowls. Thats 9-3 in BIG games duh.

yeah right

March 9th, 2010
6:44 pm

as far as using how a team finished??? Ummm those games that Bill uses were not played against those teams on the last week of the year. You have to use how they were ranked at the time. Tex was not really number 2 last year after they lost McCoy.
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The problem using “how they finished” is it does not take into account circumstances (injuries) that didnt exist at the time UGA played them. The real record against ranked team is 29-18.
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Also, a 9-3 record in bowls and championships are not big games??? Come on Bill get with reality please.

yeah right

March 9th, 2010
6:46 pm

Even ESPN says UGA is 29-18 against ranked teams….you know the “world wide leader in sports”. Bill go back on vacation please.

yeah right

March 9th, 2010
6:49 pm

also, bill…….ESPN reports UGA is 8-6 Vs. Top 10 foes. I guess those are not big games hmmmmmmmm

kauai dawg

March 9th, 2010
6:49 pm

The SEC facing the SEC in the top 25 is why those numbers look the way they do. Take out the SEC games and what will the numbers be against just top 25 teams outside the SEC? The SEC beats up on each other. NO questions asked…. go DAWGS! 30-24

yeah right

March 9th, 2010
6:50 pm

those above numbers are UGA under Richt by the way

i just dont care

March 9th, 2010
6:55 pm

ALABAMA has 2 defencive players on that espn list thats never played a down,whats with that

SC_DAWG

March 9th, 2010
7:30 pm

Elliot Garcia, are you here legally, sir?

Spike

March 9th, 2010
7:35 pm

Until we start beating the Gators all this talk is academic. For the love of Pete, start beating the Gators!! Why do we crap in our pants every time we play them? I just don’t get it.

Bill King

March 9th, 2010
7:40 pm

Yeah right:

Look again. I didn’t decide to go by the final season rankings (as opposed to how they were ranked at the time of the game). Chris Low of ESPN.com decided that. He wanted to use the final ranking as the criteria because a lot of teams are ranked at some point during the season but don’t wind up that way. The list was also limited to the past five seasons.

Bill King

March 9th, 2010
7:45 pm

Ozzfest:

Hutson Mason is still in high school. He won’t start at UGA until the fall semester.

A. Murray

March 9th, 2010
7:55 pm

“WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH HUTSON MASON….I THOUGH A PARADE ALL-AMERICA WOULD MAKE WAVES ON A TEAM WITH NO APPARENT QB

ESPN 150 – No Hutson
Rivals 100 – No Hutson
Rivals 250 – No Hutson
Scout – 53rd ranked QB in the country

Oh but he is one of six QBs on the Parade “All American Team”

Hutson Mason Can Play QB

March 9th, 2010
8:53 pm

Mason’s stock went up after Mett’s went down. Hutson won’t get to athens until summer, but he’ll end up backing up Murray and if Murray gets hurt AGAIN Mason will be starting in 2010. He can handle it too, working very hard with pro QB’s, play-book, etc. Just needs reps. 5000 yards, 55 td’s, Parade All-American, he can play.

Hutson Mason Can Play QB

March 9th, 2010
10:21 pm

ESPN 150–all went to Notre Dame–didn’t work out too well. Espn not the best evaluator of talent.

Big D Dawg

March 9th, 2010
10:26 pm

In 2001 Nebraska was chosen to play in the Rose Bowl vs Miami for the MNC. That year they got beat badly (62-36) by #14 Colorado in the last game of the season and did not play in the Big 12 Championship and #9 Colorado beat # 3 Texas. However, Nebraska finished ranked #4??? for some reason and still played #1 Miami. They were embarrassed 37 -14. So, don’t hand me the crap about …. you don’t win your conference you don’t play in the MNC! UGA didn’t lose their last game of the season in 2007. LSU lost 2 of their last 5. UGA won 7 in a row to end their season. So, there is precedence for a team to not play in their conference championship game and still play in the MNC.
UGA should have played in the MNC in 2007. Don’t embarrass yourself saying it never happened before.

AltamahaDawg

March 9th, 2010
10:33 pm

haha, I think what would be relevant that Saban has been coaching an entire decade longer too. Today, Saban is more accomplished, experienced and wiser. You would expect him to be. Richt still has 4 yrs before he would be at the mark in Saban’s career when he won a NC. In fact if you wanted to really compare the 2, Richt was in position twice to do so in his first 8 yrs ever as a HC, Putting him way ahead of Saban’s pace.

AltamahaDawg

March 9th, 2010
10:35 pm

Spike, it’s because the gators have had better teams.

Big D Dawg

March 9th, 2010
10:52 pm

And just in case Bama Stan or any other Bama fan comes on here harping about their “13 MNC”…….Here’s the AP listing. And yes, as far as AP goes UGA only has 1 but if we count like “bama” we’ve got 5…….. and according to the AP poll GT has 00000

Team Total Seasons

Notre Dame 8 1943, 1946-1947, 1949, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988
Alabama 7 1961, 1964-1965, 1978-1979, 1992, 2009
Oklahoma 7 1950, 1955-1956, 1974-1975, 1985, 2000
USC 5 1962, 1967, 1972, 2003-2004
Miami-FL 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
Ohio State 4 1942, 1954, 1968, 2002
Nebraska 4 1970-1971, 1994-1995
Minnesota 4 1936, 1940-1941, 1960
Florida 3 1996, 2006, 2008
Texas 3 1963, 1969, 2005
LSU 2 1958, 2007
Florida State 2 1993, 1999
Tennessee 2 1951, 1998
Michigan 2 1948, 1997
Penn State 2 1982, 1986
Pittsburgh 2 1937, 1976
Army 2 1944-1945
Colorado 1 1990
BYU 1 1984
Clemson 1 1981
Georgia 1 1980
Syracuse 1 1959
Auburn 1 1957
Maryland 1 1953
Michigan State 1 1952
Texas A&M 1 1939
TCU 1 1938

ATLGA Dawg

March 9th, 2010
11:18 pm

Oakwood Dawg, you sound like a crybaby. Just like all the other people who bring out the tired, unfounded, and pointless ‘argument’ about bringing back Donnan and Goff anytime Mark Richt is even remotely criticized.

Grow up.

Observor

March 10th, 2010
12:09 am

Saban vs Richt comparison isn’t really that fair. Saban took over an LSU program that had 8 losing seasons in the previous 11 years and at Alabama he took over a program that was still suffering scholarship issues from the second worst probation ever. Both were rebuilding jobs whereas Richt stepped into a program that had very good talent and was going 8-3 every year under Donnan.

Tide fan

March 10th, 2010
12:24 am

Richt is 10-10 against the sec east over the last 4 years including losing 2 of 3 to UK of all people and suffering humiliating blowouts to UT, Florida, Bama, etc.

Bama got embarrassed in Saban’s first year in a loss to LA-Monroe but I just now noticed something fascinating about Saban’s Bama teams.

In Saban’s tenure they have lost only 2 games by more than 7 pts. One was the 14 pt loss to Utah in which they looked like they clearly just didn’t want to show up. The other was an 11 pt loss to Florida in the 08 seccg in a game that was much closer than the score indicated since Bama was leading the game in the 4th qtr.

My only point is that Saban’s teams do not get blown out by 20-30-40 pts. It just doesn’t happen. And while Utah dominated us people forget that the game was 21-17 midway through the 3rd qtr.

Conversely Richt’s teams have the habit of getting repeatedly blown out and humiliated. It happened last year at UT 45-19 and earlier in 07 35-14 in 2 games that weren’t even that close, UF has blasted UGA several times, and the blackout game was over at halftime. That’s at least 6 games just in the last 4 years where Richt coached teams lost in embarrassing fashion.

My only point is that one of the signs a coach is slipping is when his teams are consistently giving up on him and getting blown out. That is never a good sign.

Hmmmm

March 10th, 2010
1:24 am

So if there are 5-6 teams in the SEC ranked in the top 25, there will be 6-7 SEC teams having losing records against top 25 teams. There isn’t another conference that has so many teams ranked, so of course, there will be teams that have losing records against top 25 teams in the SEC.

This is a dumb argument. Let’s look at the big east. How many teams do they have ranked in the top 25 consistently? 2-3? They aren’t going to have as many losses against top 25 teams.

Let’s look at the WAC. They can beat the crap out of the PAC 10 and end up having a good record against top 25 teams.

Do these records mean that they are better teams? No.

Using final season rankings is a bunch of crap as well. This was a dumb article.

76-Dawg

March 10th, 2010
2:57 am

I would be willing to endorse cutting back on league play in the SEC with no more than 6 inter league matches if in the SEC Ga, Tenn, Ala, Fla. Auburn, and LSU has too play OKLAHOMA, NEB, TEXAS, IOWA ,Miami, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Oregon and especially teams like Boise State, Fresno State, Southern Cal, Boston College Notre Dame. Any team that only plays 1 or two hard teams all year and think they are good. When the average Sec team has to play 5 or 6 very hard teams its not fair for a team like Cincinnati, Boise State and about 5 more to end up with 1 or 2 losses and a lot more recognition. A few years ago I heard Ga. tried to get Southern Cal to play a home and away but SC refused the offer. The only requirement is the games can’t be the first 4 ball games of the year. I want some of the so called elite teams of the other league to play 5 or 6 really hard teams and see how many more of their great players get hurt or when you have to get your team phyiced

#2 BAMA FAN

March 10th, 2010
3:04 am

The real good football programs some times has to take 2 steps back to get the program headed in the right direction. Take the sooners and dawgs as examples, Bob Stoopes and Saban are buddies
and he has been in Tuscaloosa a lot over the past year in trying to learn how to stop the Texas and
gators offense. The dawgs of course had to hire a new DC after Richt fired 3 defense coaches and
payed big bucks for the DC. CMR needs to get the dawgs mentally tougher and focus on how not to beat yourself!! RTR

76-Dawg

March 10th, 2010
3:30 am

To finish: to get your team mentally really to play 6 great teams, how hard it is, then they may appreciate how special and hard the SEC is. A good example is when in the Oklahoma State game last year GA. started hitting like a typical SEC contest the officials started throwing unnecessary roughness penalty’s on every play like GA was playing a team of girls. The elite teams of other leagues don’t want any part of the great SEC teams unless it in the first few games of the year. They only care about win loss record. It’s amazing how the polls don’t reflect how great the SEC teams are but last year 10 teams in the SEC went to bowl games. Sorry about the rant but it is my opinion that the SEC don’t nearly get the recognition they deserve.

76-Dawg

March 10th, 2010
3:44 am

#2 Bama Fan . I love my Dawgs but I totally agree with you that GA biggest problem is mental toughness. That why Spurrier is a great coach and all ways will be. He takes 20 recruits that either has no stars or just 1 star and get his team ready to compete against the best teams in the SEC. He may not win but the best teams know they can’t over look South Carolina or they can get beat. I hope Granthem will help with the mental part.

Dawg Olvinist

March 10th, 2010
4:15 am

With the new, retooled D, look for the Dawgs to take over games early in 2010—florida’s way down, so I’m not worried about them and tennessee has no talent and made a questionable hire in dooley. Richt should be able to easily win the SEC east and play bama for the title this year. The Dawgs are back on top–mark it down!

BuLLdawg

March 10th, 2010
6:02 am

I’ve been saying that all along.

2-6 vs. teams ranked in the final polls the last 2 years.

1-3 vs. Florida the last 4 years

1-3 vs. Tennessee the last 4 years

10-10 vs. SEC East teams the last 4 years.

tdog

March 10th, 2010
7:12 am

Hopefully we can eek out five wins this year.

AltamahaDawg

March 10th, 2010
7:22 am

So you’re saying you have been listing the record?

Standing on the sidelines

March 10th, 2010
7:47 am

Well, a lot of people have said that “Richt could not win the big one”. However, what cannot be said, is that Richt “does not get paid like he cannot win the big one”. Richt—the most overrated and overpaid coach in the SEC. At least until proven otherwise.

Hey, The D...

March 10th, 2010
7:55 am

…stands for “The DumbAzz” – learn to read – in this article AJ was listed as number 11 – Murray was # 58! Your UGA education is showing…but you were correct that AJ belongs in the top 20! DOH!

76-Dawg

March 10th, 2010
8:08 am

With a very good running back already in place and if a QB can show up UGA could very easily be 12-0 or at worst 10-2. The Dawgs can’t under estimate Spurrier and for once don’t under play Tenn. Florida and Auburn game are toss up’s. This is the easiest schedule UGA has had in a long time and with Boykin, A.J Green and Charles back and a great field goal kicker this could be the year of ‘THE DAWG’. How else could it get any better to christian UGA VIII by starting his carrier off with a great year.

Urban Meyer: The 5-3 SEC Coach

March 10th, 2010
8:20 am

Urban Meyer goes 5-3 in the SEC 40% of his seasons at Florida.

Richt has only done a season like that 2x in 9 years.

Meyer 2x in 5 years.

When Meyer goes 5-3 in the SEC in 2010, this will be the 3rd time in only 6 years.

Not impressive.

Nick Saban: The 5-3 Coach 8 Years

March 10th, 2010
8:29 am

Nick Saban went 6-5, 6-6, 6-6, 7-5 at Mich St.

He went 8-5 at LSU 2x

He went 7-6 at Alabama.

Saban has gone 5-3 or worse in conference 8 times.

Richt has only gone 5-3 or worse in conference 3 times in his first 9 years.

Compare that to Saban’s record and consistency in his 1st 9 years.

Richt has NEVER had a 7-6 or 6-6 season, Saban’s done it 5 times, including once at Alabama.

ATLGA Dawg

March 10th, 2010
9:47 am

I appreciate your arbitrary stats on Meyer and Saban, although they conveniently leave out the NCs. Statistics can be skewed to support any opinion.

No one knows what’s going to happen next year, but as of today, Richt and Co. have the most to prove and need a big season more than the other two.

ATLGA Dawg

March 10th, 2010
9:50 am

Oh yeah, and compared to Richt, how are their records against Kentucky?

jdawg

March 10th, 2010
10:00 am

what does gata stand for

Relax Dawg Fans

March 10th, 2010
10:55 am

Good points. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. We have not recently. But go from giving up under 20 points a game to over 27 and you lose games. But, in fairness, the offense has gone from 22 points a game early in Richt’s career at UGA to 27+ a game average.

Richt better than Saban or Meyer

March 10th, 2010
1:14 pm

Richt has less bad seasons than Meyer or Saban.

Richt is one of only 7 coaches EVER to get 90 wins in 9 seasons.

Richt’s consistency is PEERLESS in the SEC. Saban and Meyer are both too inconsistent to be called “great” coaches. Both have been pucky 2 times in their 24 year careers.

Richt has coached in 5 National Championships.

RED DOG 77

March 11th, 2010
1:18 am

OK BuLLdawg…………this is your time to shine son, let us have it, but go easy, please? no one wants to read a book…….Regards, RED