Big picture needed when it comes to UGA’s recruiting

Richard Samuel's move to linebacker is welcome news. (Georgiadogs.com)

Richard Samuel's move to linebacker is welcome news. (Georgiadogs.com)

Some final thoughts on signing day.

First, you don’t shake up a program by getting rid of nearly half the coaches without expecting some fallout like this. Yes, it would have been great to add some depth at wide receiver and cornerback, but it’s not like the cupboard was exactly bare after those Top 10 recruiting classes Mark Richt has had in recent years. If the Dogs are going to suffer any from this subpar recruiting season, it’ll probably be a year or so down the road. And, who knows, if Richt bounces back in terms of recruiting next year, this hiccup might not matter much at all.

Secondly, this class might not be as impressive on first appearance as Richt’s others, but it’s not too shabby. Had Da’Rick Rogers not bolted, this likely would have been graded a Top 10 class by at least some of the recruiting analysts.

And as has been pointed out by MrSEC and others, if you average those much-hyped star ratings for the players, Georgia’s class actually ranks very nicely. Using Rivals.com’s numbers, with a point assigned for every star, Georgia finishes second in the SEC with an average of 3.68 points per player, behind only Florida’s 3.89.

Does that actually mean anything? Well, probably as much as the star ratings themselves. But those fans looking for a silver lining at least have something to latch onto.

One more point about Da’Rick. You hear a lot of whispers about what really went into his defection and off-field concerns about him, but in the wake of his putting on the orange cap, all that sounds like the same sort of sour grapes that emanated from the other side last year when Marlon Brown pulled a similar 180 and signed with the Dogs. Let’s not stoop to that level. The kid had a change of heart. Leave it at that.

Oh, and the Georgia players promising to make him pay on the playing field ought to have kept such thoughts among themselves. If he burns one of them on a long scoring play, those taunts are going to look pretty silly.

What else can we take from Wednesday? Well, he’s not a signee since he was already on the team, but a lot of fans think the Dogs’ defense got a big addition with the announcement that running back Richard Samuel is switching to linebacker, as had been rumored for months. Samuel, who played LB in high school, will bring a lot of speed to that position, something Georgia needed.

As for Logan Gray deciding to stick at quarterback for spring drills, that’s not really surprising, although I’m in the camp that feels he’s basically delaying the inevitable and probably would be better off if he went ahead and switched positions and got in more work there. Still, there’s something to be said for having at least one quarterback who actually has taken snaps in some games. And there’s always the chance that Gray will rise to the occasion and prove us naysayers wrong.

I wouldn’t lay any money on that, but the competition surely won’t hurt Aaron Murray and Zach Mettenberger and might prove a plus.

191 comments Add your comment

TommyP

February 4th, 2010
11:03 am

The average points per commitment has always been the best way to rate a class.

H DAWG

February 4th, 2010
11:04 am

FIRST???
The Bulldogs will be just fine boys,wait and see !!!!!!!!

CovingtonDawg

February 4th, 2010
11:05 am

CovingtonDawg

February 4th, 2010
11:08 am

Since, I wasn’t first, I’ll give a comment.
If you rated just the defensive recruites per program, would you say that the Dawgs were in the top 5 or even higher? We need the most help on Defense and we went out and got some serious players.
If you look at pro teams who spend 80% of their draft building one particular side of the ball over the other, do you say they had a bad draft or that they drafted for needs?
I’d say we are fine on Offense with what we have and what we picked up yesterday. The defense however, looks to have loaded up with some players that were much needed to bring our D back to par.
Thoughts?

JPW

February 4th, 2010
11:10 am

I personally feel that we got a great group of players and young men. I’m excited for them, their families, and the University of Georgia. The pressure will be on them in the years to come, but I am confident they will rise to the occasion.

To the new Dawgs, welcome to the Bulldog Nation!

those games meant nothing to tech

February 4th, 2010
11:12 am

Richard Samuel’s move to Linebacker is the same as adding an allstar recruit that has game experience…….very positive

EW

February 4th, 2010
11:14 am

I think that it will be a blessing that the Da’Rick Rogers circus didn’t come to Athens. Excited for 2010 already…

kerryb

February 4th, 2010
11:14 am

Enter your comments here

Ginger

February 4th, 2010
11:15 am

Right….time to move on….I am proud of the players that UGA signed and wish them the very best in their careers at Georgia. These players can do outstanding things at UGA…It is within our team’s grasp to be one of the very best in the SEC and nation. All of our players must become better students of the game…They must know and understand their assignments…They must study film and know their opponents inside and out…They must run 1 more lap, lift 1 more set of weights, run 1 more wind sprint when they are already exhausted…They must be in better shape that anyone. They must be disciplined and not commit the costly penalities….If our new & old players will do this, UGA will win a lot of games…How BAD do you want it ?

lastgrad

February 4th, 2010
11:16 am

Go Dawgs! Great Coaching wins games. Let’s get behind the Georgia football coaching staff and support our team.

kerryb

February 4th, 2010
11:16 am

Adding Samuel as a LB is like getting a 5 star recruit at that position with some experience playing in the SEC. I believe that Samuel out of High School was projected to be a 5 star recruit at LB. Why he ever tried to play RB I’ll never know.

devildawg

February 4th, 2010
11:19 am

Whats the deal? I can’t seem to get a post thru today?

devildawg

February 4th, 2010
11:20 am

If your going to block posts, maybe send a brother an email telling them why. Nice AJC. Just like China.

chazzo

February 4th, 2010
11:21 am

LASTGRAD!!!!!

DITTO!!!!! to that. YES!!!!!

Far too much negative crap in the bulldgog nation.

Minnesota Dawg

February 4th, 2010
11:30 am

I wonder how many other players on this squad should be move to another position that will make us better. I’m glad we are getting more speed on defense with Samuels. Just like we had a few years ago when we were dominating on defense. You need speed to beat Florida!

Georgia will ALWAYS dominate GT!!!

February 4th, 2010
11:31 am

3 stars, 4 stars whatever….

We will still dominate you jealous nerdy fools…

((((((((((((((((((((30-24)))))))))))))))))))))))))

Saint Simons Caddy

February 4th, 2010
11:32 am

Kiss mah big ole ball headed pappa tech nerds. Don’t care if you spit!

The Proffessor

February 4th, 2010
11:34 am

Ginger, I want it pretty bad! How bout you shugah!

Without-a-clue

February 4th, 2010
11:34 am

We got what we got, now let’s move on. GO DAWGS!!

GatorNation

February 4th, 2010
11:36 am

I think what is disturbing most to Dawg fans is the subpar season followed by subpar recruiting. They see their rivals flourishing and having success and are wondering what the problem is. That’s understandable.

Bizzaroneck

February 4th, 2010
11:36 am

I’m not as sold on Samuel at LB. Anyone remember Brandon Miller? They are the exact same player. They look great in a t-shirt and gym shorts, but neither one of them has fluid hips. Now I hope Samuel surprises me, but his running style was ate up with no change of direction ability and that does not bode well at LB.

Without-a-clue

February 4th, 2010
11:37 am

That’s what I get for taking too long to type my entry…mixed in with the immature filth. Oh well.

Ed

February 4th, 2010
11:39 am

Texas just played in the Nat’l Championship game with a senior class that rated #20 coming into college. The ship ain’t sinking folks.

BO/CALHOUN

February 4th, 2010
11:39 am

GEORGIA MISSED OUT ON DArICK-OR DID THEY? DURING HIS CAREER HE SEEMED TO GET BETTER AND BETTER-UNTIL HIS LAST 2 GAMES. THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AGAINST BUFORD HE DID NOTHING-AND THE UNDER-ARMOR ALL-STARS-HE DID THE SAME. ONE PLAYER DOES NOT A YEAR MAKE. GEORGIA RECRUITED BY NEED AND OUR NEED WAS DEFENSE-AND PLAYERS THAT COME TO PLAY DOWN THE STRETCH. I HOPE DArICK HAS A CHANGE IN ATTITUDE AND SHOWS HE CAN PLAY AGAINST THE BEST. IF NOT…CAN ANYONE SAY BRANDON MILLER?

im not worried

February 4th, 2010
11:54 am

im not worried about the state of the bulldog nation. our main problem last year was poor defense. couple that w/stupid special teams turnovers and our record probably increases by 2 wins. i have faith in CTD and CMR. i do kind of wish mike bobo had his own playbook instead of just running richt’s favorite third and long play of a delayed hand-off up the middle. but hey, defense wins championships right?

Bill

February 4th, 2010
11:55 am

Recruiting stars are, at best, merely some scribe’s opinion and bear little weight in playing ability. David Greene and David Pollack were 3 star, and they did reasonably well playing for Georgia

LAKE OCONEE DAWG

February 4th, 2010
11:57 am

De’relict won’t be missed in Athens….He was twice as big as all the defenders in high school…Wait till one of the big safeties in the SEC tags him….Entire different league of ball….no more 5′9″ Buford cornerback and safety types….and he will certainly, after all the shenanigans and the picture peering over the sunglasses, have his oil checked in the SEC…..Shame on the carpet exec…..De’relict tried to say yesterday that it was Coach Dooley who sold him on Tennessee….I say it was Mr. Carpet man with the new car…..his son will be the loser….And De’relict is already hearing footsteps, and will be soon to display the alligator arms…..

im not worried

February 4th, 2010
11:59 am

does anyone know what knowshon’s recruting stars were? if they were anything less than 5, id say that makes a good case to not pay attention to most recruits ratings.

ringthebell

February 4th, 2010
11:59 am

I’m glad to see most people have climbed back in off ledge. Don’t see why anyone was out there anyway. The rogers(linebacker from FLA.)and robey(USC)bacically told to look elsewhere,grantham didn’t want them.Next year there is more talant in the state. 2010 is an important year on the field. This class isn’t as bad as it looks,football games are won in the trenches and we got som good ones their. Also,give granthamn a year on the feld and a whole year to recruit!

jdawg

February 4th, 2010
12:01 pm

Can you imagine the loss of business for a carpet company in Calhoun…wow…the dawgs do stick together….I have always said, that you want a player to want to play for you…if they do not…move on…

Minnesota Dawg

February 4th, 2010
12:02 pm

Recruiting is your best guess. Each level of football (high school, college, pro) has it new tests. How a player responds to it means whether he will excel at that level. I played fairly well at the high school level, but couldn’t even begin to make it at the college level. Only a few make it to the next level and still less to the pros. If you start winning, you have a better chance to get the best players because more will be coming to your school. We will continue to get some of the best because we are winners. One day, we will celebrate another National Championship. Flordia will go down and so will Alabama. It’s just how it goes in sports, not because they plan to but because you can’t always get the pieces in place all at once.

Otto

February 4th, 2010
12:03 pm

Samuel will be getting some great coaching at LB.

What I am more concerned about is the RB corp. Caleb underachived until Ealey put the pressure on. Jackson has hardly taken a snap. Bobo can’t figure out how to use Carlton and 1 new recruit is coming in.

LAKE OCONEE DAWG

February 4th, 2010
12:04 pm

GatorNation:
Worry about the Gators and your Head Coach….He didn’t tell the truth about what happened at 4:30 in the am because he didn’t want his players and coaches worrying about him…..If you buy that, I got ocean front property in Arizona, from the front porch you can see the sea….Something fishy about that whole episode at the bowl game and the circus about being gone, coming back, leave of absence….Instead of worrying about the dawgs, how about coming back and telling us exactly what is going on with ole Urbansky…..

noodle

February 4th, 2010
12:05 pm

Was Marlon Brown ever verbally committed to Tenn?

Dean

February 4th, 2010
12:08 pm

I didn’t hear anything about Georgia players commenting on Da’Rick.

SEC Football

February 4th, 2010
12:08 pm

I think we have some receivers that will step up this year. People forget Marlon Brown was rated just as high as Rogers and he has a year under his belt. King and the tight ends we have along with AJ coming back healthy. If the QB’s can get them the ball we should be OK. If Graham gets the defense playing aggressive with minimal mistakes we could surprise some people. Let’s get behind the guys that wanted to be dawgs.

CvilleDawg

February 4th, 2010
12:10 pm

I believe moreno was a 4 star.

CvilleDawg

February 4th, 2010
12:10 pm

and yes dean, linebacker christian robinson tweeted about rogers yesterday.

Dean

February 4th, 2010
12:11 pm

Okay, well I wouldn’t have advised it but it’s good to know the players are involved in the program and are fired up about it.

how2fish

February 4th, 2010
12:13 pm

GatorNation define subpar? We signed 19 players only 18 of which will count against this class. UF signed 28 10 more players more points more stars. UGA was ranked 6th in the SEC and had the least number of players signed by a good margin. We got D help and that is what was needed most Da’Rick may he do the Vols proud was a WR we have a few of those..more than D linemen so losing him hurt less that getting Thornton helped us. So not so quick my friend….but being ranked with the No.1 class you now have a lock on the NC correct?

CvilleDawg

February 4th, 2010
12:16 pm

I thought it was funny what christian said though. this what he said exactly. “So you didn’t wanna have to compete against A.J. Green, fine you gotta deal with our whole defense on October 9th, 2010.”

CvilleDawg

February 4th, 2010
12:17 pm

would we put samuel at olb or mlb ? He runs a 4.56 forty.

Dean

February 4th, 2010
12:17 pm

The Gators should be somewhat worried. Remember how that 2007 team flopped after the NC year. Well, this class is coming in hearing how great they are. They may not work as hard as they should and then they flater. The best will leave after sophomor and junior years. Granted, you wnat the number 1 class but I’d hate to have the media syaing it’s the greatest class ever signed like they are doing right now. Of course, they say that every year for the number one class. Just saying, these men have to want to work. Will they after hearing how great they are?

tizzle82286

February 4th, 2010
12:18 pm

Richard Samuel move to LB is huge. He was a better propect as an LB than RB coming out of H.S. This is CMR recovering from the Brandon Miller situation. Remember he was the big fish who signed on S.D. 04′, Miller played LB, TE, DE and RB in H.S. He started out as SLB that was in and out of the starting line-up for 3 yrs. Then he was moved to MLB in fall camp to be a Patrick Willis type figure. Brandon was 6-4 230 in H.S. then grew to 6-5 258 before his senior yr. The coaching staff want to play the younger guys at the time(Gamble and Dent) more playing time at SLB as the yr went on. Miller’s 1st game at DE was UF 07′, he played sparingly the rest of the yr, having his biggest game in Sugar Bowl. Definsive Coaching Staff all said that he should have been crossed-trained in spring. So this Samuel decision was thought about greatly with Ealey and King both dominating the latter part of the season. Richard fits right now because now he start at zero all along all the other LBs in Spring. My prediction of this move is He’ll play ILB. Won’t start til next yr along side with Dowtin. Buts needs to gain some weights right now he is about 215-220 so he needs to be 230 plus. What do you think of the future of Samuel at LB next season Mark?

Dean

February 4th, 2010
12:19 pm

I like Christian’s comments but after getting torched by who- Crompton they should just keep quiet and make up for it on the field next year.

Otto

February 4th, 2010
12:22 pm

Dean, Agreed a simple we’ll seem him on the field next year if you’re going to say anything will due. No need to turn this into locker room material. Let your actions due the talking.

tizzle82286

February 4th, 2010
12:22 pm

sorry about that Bill King what do you think of the future of Samuel at ILB?

Cuz

February 4th, 2010
12:24 pm

Minnesota Dawg, good statement on the next levels. I was a backyard football star that never made it to the next level. I changed sports, I took up frisbee.

Logan may change his mind in Spring practice. I guess there is always a chance he will change our minds.

Minnesota Dawg

February 4th, 2010
12:28 pm

Hey Cuz,

Have you seen the movie “The Rookie” He played backyard ball. Maybe you should try out for the Falcons like that guy did for Philadelphia. You might suprise yourself!

CvilleDawg

February 4th, 2010
12:29 pm

I’ll tell you one thing I think we should look out for mike gilliard, akeem hebron & chase vasser in the spring game.