Big picture needed when it comes to UGA’s recruiting

Richard Samuel's move to linebacker is welcome news. (Georgiadogs.com)

Richard Samuel's move to linebacker is welcome news. (Georgiadogs.com)

Some final thoughts on signing day.

First, you don’t shake up a program by getting rid of nearly half the coaches without expecting some fallout like this. Yes, it would have been great to add some depth at wide receiver and cornerback, but it’s not like the cupboard was exactly bare after those Top 10 recruiting classes Mark Richt has had in recent years. If the Dogs are going to suffer any from this subpar recruiting season, it’ll probably be a year or so down the road. And, who knows, if Richt bounces back in terms of recruiting next year, this hiccup might not matter much at all.

Secondly, this class might not be as impressive on first appearance as Richt’s others, but it’s not too shabby. Had Da’Rick Rogers not bolted, this likely would have been graded a Top 10 class by at least some of the recruiting analysts.

And as has been pointed out by MrSEC and others, if you average those much-hyped star ratings for the players, Georgia’s class actually ranks very nicely. Using Rivals.com’s numbers, with a point assigned for every star, Georgia finishes second in the SEC with an average of 3.68 points per player, behind only Florida’s 3.89.

Does that actually mean anything? Well, probably as much as the star ratings themselves. But those fans looking for a silver lining at least have something to latch onto.

One more point about Da’Rick. You hear a lot of whispers about what really went into his defection and off-field concerns about him, but in the wake of his putting on the orange cap, all that sounds like the same sort of sour grapes that emanated from the other side last year when Marlon Brown pulled a similar 180 and signed with the Dogs. Let’s not stoop to that level. The kid had a change of heart. Leave it at that.

Oh, and the Georgia players promising to make him pay on the playing field ought to have kept such thoughts among themselves. If he burns one of them on a long scoring play, those taunts are going to look pretty silly.

What else can we take from Wednesday? Well, he’s not a signee since he was already on the team, but a lot of fans think the Dogs’ defense got a big addition with the announcement that running back Richard Samuel is switching to linebacker, as had been rumored for months. Samuel, who played LB in high school, will bring a lot of speed to that position, something Georgia needed.

As for Logan Gray deciding to stick at quarterback for spring drills, that’s not really surprising, although I’m in the camp that feels he’s basically delaying the inevitable and probably would be better off if he went ahead and switched positions and got in more work there. Still, there’s something to be said for having at least one quarterback who actually has taken snaps in some games. And there’s always the chance that Gray will rise to the occasion and prove us naysayers wrong.

I wouldn’t lay any money on that, but the competition surely won’t hurt Aaron Murray and Zach Mettenberger and might prove a plus.

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Clarke Barr

February 4th, 2010
9:04 pm

So, Florida’s DC ‘conveniently’ waits until the day AFTER signing day to decide to bolt to the NFL to coach for the ol’ Gator quarterback, Chan Gailey. What a loser. You think Urban paid him some hush money to keep quiet until after signing day?
Bill, keep your notepad at home this year during the TD club meetings in Athens. It causes all of us to feel like we’re not getting the ’skinny’ we would otherwise get from CMR. Surely you can remember the pertinent info until you get home.

Big L

February 4th, 2010
9:33 pm

A.J. Green down the sideline. Orson Charles across the middle. Ealy and King up the gut. One more stud of an offensive line. Arron Murray got a rose of a first season coming. D will get better with new pressure. Marlon Brown will get a chance to ste. up. It’s gonna be fun , trust me.

Termigator

February 4th, 2010
9:36 pm

Clarke Barr, everything is a conspiracy to the Dawgs. Lets see, Herbstreit hates UGA, Holtz hates UGA, Mark May hates UGA (i guess that one is true), the SEC schedulers hate UGA, the Refs hate UGA. Give me a break, I wonder why the Bills didnt go after the great Grantham, maybe Gailey had some sympathy for Richt. You whiners make me sick.

Dunkley

February 4th, 2010
9:40 pm

Mark Richt is 2-7 against Florida………………solid

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GT Money

February 4th, 2010
9:56 pm

You losers are too funny. Youre not relevant anymore. You should be used to it. Your lives already sucked before football. Now, everything in your life is terrible. AHAHHHAHAHHAAHA

Termigator

February 4th, 2010
9:57 pm

GT Money, they still have gymnastics.

no doubt about it,

February 4th, 2010
10:03 pm

daugs had a sub par season with a top class last year. What will you have with a sup par new class?

just like a toyoto, daugs going down hill fast and wide open.

Gen Neyland

February 4th, 2010
10:13 pm

From BK’s blog : “You hear a lot of whispers about what really went into his defection and off-field concerns about him, but in the wake of his putting on the orange cap, all that sounds like the same sort of sour grapes that emanated from the other side last year when Marlon Brown pulled a similar 180 and signed with the Dogs. Let’s not stoop to that level. The kid had a change of heart. Leave it at that.”

Interesting the line “Let’s not stoop to that level.” They already did, BK. Worse than I’ve ever seen. Never have I read so much anger spewed toward a kid a week before signing day until, well, it’ll never end. GBO

Jeff in Calhoun

February 4th, 2010
10:30 pm

Da’rick is the real deal! But on the hand, he can be stopped with great coaching. The Buford coaching staff made him look like a 2 star!

HardTruthSoldier...

February 4th, 2010
11:28 pm

The one Guy everybody is overlooking is Ken Malcolm,” Taiback U” just got better. Hey coach Grantham you might want to look at Zander Ogletree at Strong Safety, you know, like a Bob Sandres type

HardTruthSoldier...

February 4th, 2010
11:35 pm

Peop[le just to show ya’ll how bad these ratings can be, UT tackle Dan Williams was ranked the #97 best DT in the Country coming out of H.S. IN ‘07, he is alikely middle of the first round pick in 2010 NFL Draft. Nuff said!

Cartersville Dawg

February 4th, 2010
11:36 pm

Hate to say it but I agree with GatorNation. We are just intimidated by Florida. We get outcoached and outplayed in that game just about every year, even when we have the better team. We lost to Ron Zook for crying out loud.

As for all of you Georgia fans saying that we didn’t want Da’Rick anyways, that is a bunch of bull and we all know it. If he had committed to UGA, we would all be singing his praises. It is time to just move on from that issue and shut up about it.

People can blame Bobo for sorry play calling and I agree, there were several occasions last year where it looked like my wife was calling plays, but the truth of the matter is, we just didn’t execute. We had a QB that should have been on the bench, but due to Richt’s loyalty he started every game and our offense struggled because of it.

I do believe that moving Samuel to linebacker is going to be a big plus. I saw him chase down and lay the wood to several backs in high school and the backs were supposed to be uncatchable. He will be a stud at the linebacker position.

Now, for all of you Uga fans that want to get on here and bad mouth the program, I will make it plain and simple for you. Either shut up or become a Tech fan. It’s bad enough that I have to read all their crap on here, but it really ticks me off to read the crap I do from someone that is supposed to be a DAWG. I would rather be a DAWG fan in a 0-12 year then a fan of any other program in the world.

HardTruthSoldier...

February 4th, 2010
11:39 pm

Jonathan Crompton, ranked # 3 in Phil Steele’s ‘06 class. We know how that worked out for UT!

crazy dawg

February 5th, 2010
12:02 am

I do not understand all of the hype and hope concerning UT. The big orange did go 7 and 6 last year had players aressted and dismissed from the team for armed robbery and a Coaching staff that has bolted for the left coast and not to mention that they have several ncaa voliations pending during their one year stay in kville that could end up putting the Vols on some type of probation. The 2010 Vols have several question marks and holes to fill after most of their Star( Eric Berry ) and starters are gone. The line on both sides of the ball needs up grading. Who will play QB and will he have time to throw the ball to DaRick Rogers? Young Dooley is from a great gene pool and will do a good job I’am sure ,however it will not be next year and his first visit between the hedges as a head coach will not be one that he will want to remember. The Dawgs are in much better shape on the o-line than most of the teams in the SEC. A return to the junkyard dog style of defense will be the surprise unit in the SEC. Richard Samuel will be a beast as a OLB that will create problems and mis matches all over the field. Huston,Washington can play DE or OLB and dont be fooled the interior d – linemen will be very strong with Tyson , Woods , Jones and company. Look for some of the 2010 recruits to play big roles on the D front Thornton, Smith and the 2 big DE one from SWD and the other From Manning, SC. Will all be play makers. The secondary will be much better than last year and will take advantage of a better pass rush that will lead to more int’s and turn overs.Physical safeties like Rambo,Hamilton and O-tree make receivers think twice about comming across the middle. The only question about CB will be depth Boykin and Smith will be fine back ups must step up maybe Cummings and Pugh can step up. The running game with Washawn and King will be top notch look for Malcom to bring a pounding physical style of running into th mix. The FB’s are as good as any team has. TE’s are all beast O Charles is nothing but a nightmare for Db’s and LB’s Aaron White is comming on and the return of Bruce Figgins will only help the running game that much more with his blocking and look for big A. Lynch to pick his game up. Wide Receivers will be fine with AJ Green and T.King taking the heat off the other young wide outs look for Wooten and Brown to be game breakers the depth will get a boost from the return of a healthy Chris Durham look for Logan Gray to help here also. The big suprise is also the biggest Question Mark going into 2010 The play of Arron Murray and Zack Mettenberger will give the Dawgs much better production than last season. Murray is a winner who will lead the team with his talents and toughness. Mettenberger has the big arm and both should play a good bit much like Green and Shock did not to long ago. The kicking game may be the best in the country with both Walsh and Butler returning. Coverage teams must improve and should with new coaching. Boykin is a threat as a KR. Again I ask what is the hoopla about the Tenn. Vols. Go Dawgs

SamoanDawg

February 5th, 2010
12:14 am

Todd, I think the reason why we didn’t offer Nash is bc we already have Hutson Mason committed. We didn’t need 2 QB in this class. The only other position Nash is prolly suit for is fullback, imo. But, I doubted he’d want move to fullback.

Btw, we got a package deal to land Alec Ogletree and his twin bro Alexander. Alexander projected at FB or LB. He may redshirt to gain mass or play on special teams.

Samuel is best suit at Mike/Moe position, imo. He can add some bulk to his frame at 240 w/out losing speed. He’ll get some PTs behind Daryll Gamble, Akeem Dent Marcus Dowtin and Chase Vasser. Akeem Hebron prolly best suit at MLB.

Nick Williams may move back to safety.

We got several good candidates for the OLB. Cornelius Washington, Justin Houston, Demarcus Dobbs, Kiante Tripp(5th time he has changed positions), Jeremy Longo and new comers Brandon Burrows and TJ Stripling.. to name a few.

gadawg

February 5th, 2010
1:05 am

Ginger, how many wind sprints did you run today?

col fot

February 5th, 2010
2:05 am

UGA will be just fine. They got a great group of kids, Rodney Garner and Mark Richt know exactly what their doing. Next year they will be able to sign 24-28. They have depth up the ying-yang on offense and this guy Granthem or whatever his name is must be quite a coach. Georgia will lose two games next season and they will beat Florida. They will lose South Carolina and Auburn, but will still finish in the top 10.

tennesee tom

February 5th, 2010
5:40 am

tennessee got 4 4star receivers besides rodgers,bur this recruiting thing is just a beauty contest,who knows,some want get in,some want work out and some will leave,i think the 2007 class has 10 guys left on this team,if you get 10 than wind up playing,thats about average,probley the only guy to play a lot in year 1,is a kicker

BuLLdawg

February 5th, 2010
6:49 am

It is not a good recruiting class on Offense, our lone question mark for this season, yet again.

Smittie

February 5th, 2010
6:58 am

Samuels will be a needed addition to the LBs. Recruiting good athletes is not that hard. Getting guys who will produce at SEC standards is something else. Georgia fans saw that even with 3 stars on a team and expected to contend for the National Championship, winning is a team effort with disciplined well coached players. The D has to be rebuilt and it looks like Coach Richt got the right guy to do it.

willie

February 5th, 2010
7:02 am

What is the over/under number for how many of these guys will not qualify, even at Georgia?

How do you like my new job?

Paddy

February 5th, 2010
8:43 am

Bernie Matt……I agree and have said so. It is the offense that needs to be more creative. We are SO predictable!

I know I am in the minority, but I like our class of 2010!

lagadawg

February 5th, 2010
8:48 am

Seems like 90% of football Diva’s are wide receivers.

Dynamicbigboy

February 5th, 2010
9:09 am

What are you talking about concerning Marlon Brown? He NEVER did a 180. He was never committed to anyone. To compare him with Rogerts is idiotic at best. I expected better from you.

Todd

February 5th, 2010
9:50 am

Why are Ga fans going after Da’Rick Rogers now?

I didn’t hear a single bad word about the kid until now.

How foolish you sound, you should be going after Mark Richt and Bobo for not having the sense to understand they needed to offer Nance like Tenn. did.

Instead they swapped out for Hutson Mason.

Not to knock Hutson Mason, I hope he’s lights out for GA by the time his 4 yrs. are up.

Logan Grey appeared to have a great potential coming out of high school.

He has 100 net punt return yrds. to his credit to date.

Will see where this goes in the next 4 yrs. my beat is Da’Rick is the real deal, stop beating up on the kid, he’s 18, Mark Richt is 48 or whatever he is and Bobo is 38 or whatever with 5 kids and a can of dip.

Bob Stoops picked up Willie M. that all you brilliant Dawg fans said couldn’t coach a lick.

Where going to find out where all this ends up real soon.

Logic

February 5th, 2010
10:09 am

Nice rationalization!

Feel better?

It is what it is… a DOWN class that WILL have implications in the FUTURE.

Dawghater

February 5th, 2010
10:38 am

Well Bill, new tune for 2010! It’s always been the pump the chest out and go on and on about GA’s recruiting class rankings. Now it’s about the “Big Picture”. Is that code for we did not have a good recruiting class and need to put a better spin on that. Unbelieveable! And for the idiot “Montgomery Burns”. You don’t know anything aobut Rodgers. It’s ignorant for you and others to say anything about a kid just because he signs with another school! Get over it! Rogers can signe with who he wants and he wanted to go to school with his friend. It’s that simple. But I’m sure you have a degree that qualifies you to analyze a kids “character” when you’ve never met him.

papadawg

February 5th, 2010
10:47 am

Dang it get over it Dawg Fans, you win some you lose some that’s recruiting every year. I hope one of the things Coach Richt has learned is you need a strong running game then a passing game in the SEC so losing a WR shouldn’t be a big deal the way our backs started running at the end of last year. We have some good WR already and we got some needed studs on the defensive side. Gone are the days of the pass happy offense like they ran at FSU.

BigDawg

February 5th, 2010
12:59 pm

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Dostoyevskiy

February 5th, 2010
2:25 pm

Is UGa recruiting LeMay out of Charlotte? Is he from the same school from where Cox was from? If so, then do we really want him? I heard we had burned our bridges there since he got so much criticism from his performance at UGa.

BDAWG

February 5th, 2010
7:18 pm

Logan Gray should save us a schlorship and transfer to a JC. He wasn’t prepared last year and won’t be prepared next year, but then that also brings a question about the OC. Why wasn’t the second string QB ready to step in and play?

Neubi

February 6th, 2010
1:03 pm

Bill King

This is not you best reporting, it’s more like putting lip stick
on that pig class. First of all go to MrSEC web site and this is what you will
find:

School Signees 5-stars 4-stars 3-stars 2-stars 1- & 0-stars Total Points

Georgia 19 1 9 9 1 0 70

I get 20 recruits when I add it up, also UGA signed no 5 Star recruits which he shows.
Then you can go to the Rivals.com web site and look at the averages they have the
SEC, the dawgs are the 6th rated class in the SEC, sorry, but facts are facts.
Take a look at these:

Fla 3.89
Ala 3.62
LSU 3.59
Aub. 3.5
Tenn 3.44
UGA 3.42

Bill King

February 6th, 2010
6:05 pm

Neubi:

The star average I quoted came from MrSEC.com.

RED DOG 77

February 7th, 2010
2:27 am

Alabama had great years in 2008 and 2009 with two average, manager type QBs. In 2008 their WR corps consisted of one Julio Jones, with just slightly more depth in 2009. They won on the back of a hard running young man on O and an agressive 3-4 D that believed they not only could, but would win come game day [confidence] . Every coach has his style, his personality,and any coach worth his salt, and is motivated knows that he must continue to learn, grow, and be flexable if he expects to be a winner. That said : I have the greatest respect for CMR. He realizes his style won UGA alot of games, and kept us atop the heap for most of his time at UGA. I sincerily believe he is taking his game to the next level now. I hope he will keep his style, because it wins games. I further hope he will continue to be flexable, and play to his strengths, trying some varyations from time to time……….Me ? I am a 58yr old businessman that has learned if I dont change with the times, my business will fail……I believe CMR has learned this valuable lesson. I hope and pray BULLDOG NATION will support CMR and his GEORGIA BULLDOGS with all they have….GO DOGS !!!! GATA

Carl Spackler

February 7th, 2010
10:11 am

Could someone who knows the defensive players enlighten me who will be part of the 3-4 defensive scheme that I hear will be used…curious as to who will be playing the critical NT position, how about the DE’s (are they big enough), who will be the ILB’s & how fast are they, are the 4 LB’s fast enough to run down running backs & provide pass coverage…does this team have the make-up to run this defense? does it have the depth (injuries, etc.)? Does UGA have the players now, or will this be a wait until next year…did CMR recruit the kind of players, or are they already on the team, needed to run Grantham’s 3-4…I don’t see these kinds of players from this recruiting class, but then again maybe Grantham can coach the existing players up to the job…the present team seems to have been built for a 4-3…Grantham may have been one of the best out there, but was he the best for UGA’s talent…hope this isn’t a wait until next year, if it is CMR needs to have his head examined

Justin Kase

February 7th, 2010
12:38 pm

Bill King – Are you related to Howard Cosell, because you’re the master of the obvious?

RED DOG 77

February 7th, 2010
3:13 pm

Carl S…….IMHO, There is always a pretty significant adjustment period going from the 4-3 to the 3-4.However, given the players we already have on the D side of the ball ,I sincerily believe our adjustment will be but a minor hickup. Many scholarships were used on the D side in the 09 class, the 2010 was almost all D. With that said, one of the challenges will be to bulk up some weight on some, and either remain the same or lose a little weight with others. Because of our lack of a bonified pass rush in recent years, one position that we are now loaded at is D END.Many of the kids coming out of HS are tall and fast ,but not very heavy. The fastest of these may be used as stand up OLBs, with only a minor bulk up to say 220lbs-to 240lbs. The D ends will be the kids who have a frame that can carry 250lbs- to 280lbs, we already have a number of those on our roster. The NT should be the easiest, we have some big strong studs in the 300lb range that should be able to step right in. Bottom line IMO, yes we have the personel, but that doesnt mean we wont be looking for additional LBs in future yrs. Some say the adjustment to the 3-4 is tough because it is a more complicated D.I on the other hand, as a former player believe that given the 3-4 is a much more agressive D it is more fun. Kids seem to learn easier when they are having fun. I dont think these kids are nearly as motivated with a bend dont break D as they are with a blowem up ,blitz, and rip their heads off style D.This D should also help in our recruting in the future, just look at Alabama, those kids were having a ball confusing the other guys O.The 3-4 is only used by a minority of college football teams…..but I believe most will begin to trend that way. It tends to contain the spread O better than any other D, and is flexible enough to handle the toughest downhill running O with run blitzs etc. Me ? even if we screw up a little at first, it will be well worth it in the future to go back to the ‘Junk Yard Dog’ style D. The state of Georgia has some of the best HS talent in the nation, the 3-4 will be how we can begin to keep more of them, and also cherry pick some of the best nationally………Defense wins championships, no ifs ands or buts about it…..CMR made what I believe to be the best move he has made since coming to UGA, with his statement that he was going to go back to a more hands on coach with the QBs and O, like he did when he first got here[get away from the CEO mode] I believe DOG NATION is going to be looking at championship contention on a regular basis very soon………Just my opinion, but I believe it in my heart, and as a former player, I know for a fact the kids love it ! and when they are motivated….watch out ! Regards, RED

Go to Wrightsville Again!

February 7th, 2010
5:52 pm

There is a Walker Kid in Wrightsville that is a heck of a receiver. Zack Walker 6′1″ around 180. Zack was among the state leaders with 72 receptions for 1,172 yards and 14 touchdowns.

How about another Walker on the roster from Wrightsville.

Carl Spackler

February 7th, 2010
10:07 pm

RED DOG 77…thanks for the clarification on the team talent…here’s hoping they can reload and come out swinging…

RED DOG 77

February 7th, 2010
11:08 pm

Carl Spackler…..There is usually an icon at the top of the main page that gives the roster, you can scroll through it and pretty much see what we have. One question you asked that I did not answer was the NT position. There has been some talk regarding the stellar play of Kwamee Gathers who red shirted last year. Acording to what I have read, Kwamee had some problems with his studies that aparently have been straightened out. From what I read he was singled out as the MVP for the defense on the scout team. Big Kwamee Gathers is 6ft6in and weighs better than 330lbs, dont know if he will start over the likes of a De Angelo Tyson, also a giant, but the talent we will have at NT should make ‘Mt Cody’ green with envy. Our big ugly guys are not only big ,but we have always recruted atheletic big men in the past……..To me ? wouldnt really matter where on the line these guys played…..they are pretty tough, Again ,just my opinion, but I am sticking to it…..Regards, RED