Athens paper favors charge for North Campus tailgating

Tailgaters leave a mess on UGA's North Campus. (Elizabeth Quillin / Special)

Tailgaters leave a mess on UGA's North Campus. (Elizabeth Quillin / Special)

In an editorial published in Sunday’s Athens Banner-Herald, the paper came out in favor of UGA beginning to charge tailgaters for access to the university’s North Campus quadrangles.

The ABH noted that UGA President Michael Adams said last week that a committee looking into how to get a handle on the trashing of North Campus on game days by tailgaters had recommended that the university consider limiting access to that area of campus if tailgating crowds get too large, or start charging a fee for the privilege of tailgating there.

Adams said he would “recoil a little bit” from the prospect of charging for tailgating, but the Banner-Herald noted that restricting access to North Campus would be a hardship for those folks simply trying to get from downtown Athens to Sanford Stadium. Plus deciding when to close off the area would be problematic.

Charging for access seems to be the most workable option, the paper concluded.

“Charging a nominal fee for a tailgating permit, and issuing individual permits for specific areas of North Campus, would also allow university and athletic association officials to identify people who are trashing the campus and to take action” such as revocation of tailgating privileges, or of the ability to buy game tickets, the Banner-Herald said. “Such sanctions would serve to ensure tailgaters’ compliance with what, frankly, already should be a common standard of cleanliness and respect for the University of Georgia.”

What do you think? Is making tailgaters pay to set up on North Campus the best way to keep the grounds from being trashed?

POOCH KICKS

Jeff Owens announced on Twitter this weekend that he’s been invited to play in the Senior Bowl. … Kudos to the Dogs who made AP’s All-SEC team: wide receiver A.J. Green, linebacker Rennie Curran and punter Drew Butler on the first team, and offensive lineman Clint Boling, kicker Blair Walsh, defensive end Justin Houston and defensive tackle Geno Atkins on the second team. Not a bad showing for an off year! … Georgia drew a single vote in USA Today’s coaches’ poll, and it wasn’t from Mark Richt. Retiring FSU legend Bobby Bowden was the only coach to list the Dogs. … My son passes along a great line about the SEC championship from the Braves & Birds blog: “Now that the Crimson Tide have blown up the Death Star, how do they get up for an encore?” … For those of you who think the color of jersey or helmet worn by a team means anything other than a fashion statement, my pal Dan notes that the Gators, who again wore that retro headgear in the SEC championship, have never won a conference title wearing white helmets. Something else to cry about.

I’ll be off Tuesday and Wednesday, but the Blawg will return on Thursday.

209 comments Add your comment

Another Dawg

December 7th, 2009
4:00 pm

Steve

December 7th, 2009
4:05 pm

Who beat out Blair for 1st team PK

Andrew

December 7th, 2009
4:05 pm

I think we need to let this sit out there for a little while and see if it discourages the littering, if it doesn’t then maybe the do need to start charging. We need to avoid discouraging tailgating but taking steps to push these guys to take it serious, if not then they will have to pay for it which will have a negative effect on tailgating, but based off what we’ve seen it appears necessary because alot of the tailgaters don’t know how to take care of their own trash

Another Dawg

December 7th, 2009
4:09 pm

Steve: Leigh Tiffin. Obviously.

Grandad

December 7th, 2009
4:10 pm

Bill: Have you heard anything in regards to Andy McCollum becoming a member of the coaching staff in any capacity?

EW

December 7th, 2009
4:13 pm

Good idea to charge…littering is a problem of the masses..if one group sees it happening around them they think nothing of doing it themselves. Before you know it, North Campus is a landfill. The jerks that act like that don’t realize the University pays people to clean up the mess they made for free. It’s a lack of respect to your team to do shi* like this.

cajdawg

December 7th, 2009
4:16 pm

Four easy steps to a solution:

1)Cops ticket underage drinking among the students.
2)More trash cans.
2)Issue cititations for littering.
4)The athletic department should make it a greater priority to get tickets into the hands of alumni. There is way too much hanger-on-redneck-skank-azz-trash at UGA games- 90% of these people have no affiliation to the school except that they “love their dogs”. Rednecks litter.

Another Dawg

December 7th, 2009
4:16 pm

EW, by that logic, since tailgaters would now be footing the cost of the cleanup crew, we have a de facto license to litter. I’m paying for the service, I should get to use it. *slow clap* Great solution.

Lindsey

December 7th, 2009
4:17 pm

My family & friends have been tailgating on North Campus since 1986. We started out where the parking deck is now, so we moved from there to the Anthropology Building. Once we got there the closed the building so we did not have access to the restrooms. Then last season they started charging for that. So we moved back up to the Lamar Dodd Art Building and purchased a parking pass to tailgate there. Although I think its embarrassing & irresponsible to see the campus trashed like it has been in resent game, when UGA has a night game, the amount of trash cans and restrooms is still the same. We always carry our own trash bags if we run out of the ones they hand out. I just hope there is another way to handle this other then adding on another fee to tailgate. With the amount of money the university gets, could they not have the campus police issues citations for those trashing the campus instead of punishing everyone? Good luck Bulldogs in the bowl game, GO DAWGS!!!

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
4:26 pm

I always thought tailgating was supposed to be in parking lots. That’s the way the TV commercials show it, too. Easy cleanup, stuff it in the trunk/truck bed.

Nate

December 7th, 2009
4:26 pm

Another Dawg, is that “obviously” because he is a great kicker or because he plays for Alabama?

To be honest, I don’t follow college kickers that closely. However, I did notice during the SEC Championship he missed an extra point, and the announcer said that was his third this year. Should a first team SEC kicker really miss three extra points?

Nate

December 7th, 2009
4:29 pm

Anotehr Dawg, I agree with you on the pay for service logic. And to be honest…UGA rakes in so much money on gamedays I can’t believe they dare open their mouths to get after us for cleanliness when they can easily afford the cleanup crew.

You invite 100,000 people eating and drinking to your campus to celebrate the dawgs…a mess is gonna happen.

How come no one ever posts pictures of LSU’s campus or Tennessee or Florida’s campus after a big game? I would just be curious to see it…

Topper

December 7th, 2009
4:33 pm

Why is there a problem. For 20+ years my tailgating groups priorities are favorite bourbon,favorite beer, ice for the cooler, ice for the mixed drinks, Ziploc Bags and Hefty Bags for trash. They first thing that is ever done is tying the damn trash bag onto a door handle, period – no trash should ever be left on campus, any campus for that matter.

Extra trash cans on campus is not the solution, that just encourages the solvenly and they are never big enough. Taxing people will just encourage the tailgaters to leave there trash in place, as the other poster said, we are paying for it – use it mentality. I dont have a problem carrying a few 55 gallon hefty bags back form UGA games at all, but it seems I am one of the few.

The only true solution is, DONT FREAKING LEAVE YOUR GARBAGE FOR OTHERS TO PICK UP.

MT

December 7th, 2009
4:35 pm

I think it is still a little premature to talk about charging for tailgating permits. We still have not seen a coordinated effort by the University to increase the number of trash cans available nor for cleanup crews to do a mid-day sweep of full trash cans during the buildup to night games.

I agree with the above view; alumni would view that payment for the space would be almost a defacto license to trash the spot if needed.

Also, with the new fraternity houses opening up on River Road and getting more established, I think we will see less students and a slightly older crowd on North Campus on a forward basis.

chemdawg

December 7th, 2009
4:35 pm

Bill King has a bi-daily article about the north campus trash, that’s why it’s a big deal.

AceDawg

December 7th, 2009
4:35 pm

I get the point that fans shouldn’t destroy the area and that a charge could maybe offset some damage. If so, charging $1 a person seems better than people reserving spots – how can you be responsible for what other people throw and do to your tailgaiting area once you’ve left for the game or even if hordes of people are simply passing by? That said, a $1 fee could pay for extensive trash bag availability and a little more cash to pay folks to clean up the area afterwards (as well as to promote cleanliness with messages to begin with.)

Then again, this may not work at all. Good luck whoever has to make a decision because most people will be mad with any changes no matter what they are.

Another Dawg

December 7th, 2009
4:36 pm

Nate: He is Alabama’s all-time leading scorer, two FGs away from tying Alabama’s FG record, and has been in the running for the Groza for the past two years. I’m not saying I wouldn’t still take Blair over him, but he certainly has a body of work to make the argument. He’s definitely not a bad choice, and when it comes to kickers in the SEC, if it’s not Blair, it’s Tiffin, and if it’s not Tiffin, it’s Blair Walsh.

UK Fan

December 7th, 2009
4:37 pm

JUST LIKE A DOG….Leaves his CRAP all over the yard, streets and etc.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
4:41 pm

A dollar? That won’t buy a regular-sized Snickers bar. After repeated publicity on the problem it seems obvious that some people go there with the clear intent to litter and trash the area.

KJ

December 7th, 2009
4:45 pm

Most of Tiffin’s kicks are chip shots due to bama’s crappy red zone offense, he only attempted one kick over 50 yards all year, and even missed 3 extra points.

I wonder if the voting was affected by Walsh missing his last kick of the season.

UK Fan

December 7th, 2009
4:46 pm

What I meant to say is, I’m a toothless hillbilly from a worthless state who should stick to basketball.

I'm sure that will fix it

December 7th, 2009
4:48 pm

Let me get this straight… UGA fans routinely trash their campus, UGA players routinely get arrested… yeah, I’m sure charging for north campus tailgating will change something. Stay classy UGA.

Georgia will ALWAYS dominate GT!!!

December 7th, 2009
4:49 pm

Bill,

Be on watch for large numbers of Vols, Gaytors and Wildcats (undercover NERDS) making daily comments on your blog….

Please be advised!!!

((((((((((((((((30-24))))))))))))))))))

Orange bowl or not WHO’S YOUR DADDY???

Jealous nerdy fools

Georgia will ALWAYS dominate GT!!!

P. Bull Terrier

December 7th, 2009
4:55 pm

The town of Athens and the Athens newspaper have had a love/hate relationship with the University and it’s students nearly forever. They love the UGA on payday, but hate it (and the students) the rest of the time. The Athens paper and the vocal citizens have always favored anything that would make Athens a less appealing place for outsiders/students. It’s not surprising they would favor a tax on tailgating. (Shhh! Don’t give Obama any ideas.)

I actually understand their position a little. I wouldn’t like if 100,000 people showed up for a party in my back yard every other weekend and left their teenagers behind unsupervised. However, I didn’t decide to live near a college campus, so it’s not the same thing.

cajdawg actually makes a good point about encouraging more alumni ticket holders. As a UGA alum, I still see the campus as an extension of my home and try to take good care of it. I’m don’t throw my trash around wherever I go, but I don’t have the same proprietary feeling about the Georgia Dome as I do Sanford Stadium. How about alumni discounts for season tickets? (Yeah, right. That’ll never happen.)

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
4:56 pm

ALWAYS – Always? Forever? Every year? There are pills that can help with those delusions. Check with the U of Georgia medical school for some free advice.

Dawg Whisperer

December 7th, 2009
4:56 pm

These blogs have degenerated into nothing more than mud-slinging catcalls from many who use them to express their pent-up frustration and hate. The AJC should seriously reconsider continuing this forum because of the abusive behavior of so many. Unfortunately, the worst behavior has become the norm instead of reasonable and insightful comments. Bill, you and your co-horts deserve a better fan blog and so do others who aren’t interested in reading graffitti.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
4:59 pm

Dawg Whisperer – Some other blogs require logging in, as opposed to leaving an email address. I wonder if that would help.

Mike

December 7th, 2009
5:03 pm

A Tailgating Permit on campus grounds is the best solution.

Olde Dawg

December 7th, 2009
5:05 pm

Graduated in ‘92, move out West-I don’t recall the campus in disarray when I attended-it’s a beautiful majestic place- local govt./university should not have to resolve this situation-shame on the trash creators…

PhilDawg

December 7th, 2009
5:06 pm

The trashing of North Campus has resulted from several factors:
1. Removal of most fraternities from Lumpkin near North Campus. Some relocated over the Rover Road, but not all. North Campus has become a tailgate spot for these fraternites who no longer have easy walking access to the stadium.
2. The phenomenon of coming to the Classic City with out a ticket (and no plan to acquire one) has led to mass congretating in areas like North Campus. The access to the bars, etc. downtown for watching the game make NC the most favorable spot for these folks.
3. Restricting parking and zoning parking for contributors or those who purchase parking passes. North Campus is the closest, accessablie taigating area as a result of these factors. South Campus our River Road and East Campus is so far away from the stadium and the UGA gameday “vibe:.

The resolution, I believe, is to model the Grove at Ole Miss, a successful operation since 1992. I have seen the Grove so crowded it was hard to meet friends in the shoulder to shoulder crowd, but the fans seem to police themselves and the place is not trashed with litter. Allow tent and other access up to a certain time of the day, then close it down except for foot traffic. Provide set up for a fee as an option (Ole Miss has this service and you pay if you need it, you set up yourself if you don’t want to buy the service). Provide plenty of trash cans and service them during the day. Issue MIP’s, littering and public drunkeness citations. It’s easy to strike a balance with a “show of uniforms” and a “good professional” game day attitude from the professionals that are hired for game day security.

This is the University’s property. The trash is the responsibility of the lazy folks who leave, but the University is foolsh to think they can embarass this problem away. They need to embrace the fans and proactively market and execute a solution that makes UGA football the game day experiecne it has always. been. Maybe Damon can do another PSA in addition to his don’t drive and drink one and ask all BullDog tailgaters to “Cleen Up Their Tailgate” before they leave campus or have Washaun do it with a “I Clean Up This State” appeal.

Go Dawg’s Drop it in the Trash Can, WOOF! WOOF! WOOF!

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
5:14 pm

A permit like those used for state parks could be part of the solution. A necessary element would be policing, like the park police. Otherwise, the permit would be paid permission to litter. Write up the offenders with misdemeanor tickets, say $250, and for the onery drunks, plastic cuffs and a trip to the pokey.

rammer jammer

December 7th, 2009
5:18 pm

that’s what you get when you cater to redneck, Wal-Mart fans – you GET redneck, Wal-Mart fans – reap what you sow UGA

GaDawg

December 7th, 2009
5:19 pm

cajdawg – Four easy steps to a solution:

1)Cops ticket underage drinking among the students.
2)More trash cans.
2)Issue cititations for littering.
4)The athletic department should make it a greater priority to get tickets into the hands of alumni. There is way too much hanger-on-redneck-skank-azz-trash at UGA games- 90% of these people have no affiliation to the school except that they “love their dogs”. Rednecks litter.

cajdawg – loving the dogs should be enough. I for one never step foot into a classroom at UGA, but I pay my Hartman Fund Donation to have the ability to buy season tickets to watch the Dogs play. We leave our tailgate area cleaner than we find on most Saturdays. So if you wish to classify me as a wanna-be-redneck fan then do it jerk.

Old Dawg

December 7th, 2009
5:19 pm

Of course they should charge a fee and a hefty deposit that they get back depending on how they keep the site up.The University should use the fee for paying for employees to assist in cleaning the site up and some security. The Dawg fans in general have shown a total lack of respect for the area, although the University needs to do a much better job of patrolling and providing receptacles.

DawgInMemphis

December 7th, 2009
5:22 pm

Don’t charge folks—Ole Miss has tinkered with that through the years, and the general consensus was that it would ruin a great tradition. Tailgating in North Campus has become a relatively new tradition that the University should embrace. They just have to figure out how to run it—the grove has taken its lumps through the years, but now they have it figured out to a science.

Make a few phone calls and you’ll have it figured out. Get the dawg version of the hotty toddy potty (portable full service restrooms) and open one or two buildings with close restroom access—close down all other points except for the area to the restroom and have an official preventing folks from bringing drinks inside. Hand out trash bags to each tent prior.

Don’t ruin a great tradition before it even grows legs.

MT

December 7th, 2009
5:23 pm

The Lumpkin St removal of the fraternities, I believe, is the biggest driver of the antecedotes of more students tailgating on North Campus, as well as young alumni.

This is one of the those unintended consequences of pushing out those groups to the perimeter of campus. Why walk all the way across campus to tailgate at a River Road fraternity when you pass right through North Campus?

Somehow, make tailgating out toward East Campus more appealing. There’s more space and pushing more people out that way would have less of an impact. I don’t however advocate using a fee system to push them in that direction.

Charging a tailgate setup fee across the board would simply create more informal of a tailgating atmosphere without removing the crowds. The Ole Miss system should be more of a model than any other proposal out there.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
5:26 pm

People that show up with $49 plastic & aluminum tents, beer kegs and plastic coolers in a “walking area” have the intent of leaving them behind, never mind the cost. Write the expense off as part of the “game experience.” Let the “hired help” take care of that problem.

University of Georgia, welcome to the “plantation mentality.” It spreads like mold.

SadDawg

December 7th, 2009
5:28 pm

At least we’re not the only team to get embarrassed with a uni-change-beatdown!!

AltamahaDawg

December 7th, 2009
5:40 pm

Who cares about charging. Its not a money issue. Its a responsibility issue. Just make North campus a reserved tailgating area. First come, first serve. Or offer advanced registration too. Anybody who thinks tailgating on North Campus is worthy, shouldnt mind a simple matter of picking up a pass, and showing an ID. Nothing like your NAME on a pile of garbage to make you remember a damn hefty bag.

DCJohn

December 7th, 2009
5:41 pm

How bout setting up a dumpster area where people can dump their trash? At the Souf Carolina game, right before the game when people were beginning to break down their tents, not much trash strewn about. After the game and the homeless ripped open trash bags looking for things of value, trash was everywhere. Even if someone picks up their spot to the point where it is delightful, all it takes is one bum to rip open a bag and ruin it. Charging a fee for tailgating will not prevent someone else from blowing up your spot long after you have taken responsibility for it and left it “so fresh and so clean, clean”.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
5:44 pm

Off topic, but….huh? From the ajc.com headlines:

Georgia death row inmate dies 4:23 p.m.
No charges for chimp attack 4:15 p.m.

1) Isn’t he supposed to die?
2) How do you arrest a chimp? Did they Mirandize it?

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
5:47 pm

A part of the plantation mentality is to blame it on the lower classes.

Richard Hamilton

December 7th, 2009
5:48 pm

I agree with limiting the access to this area and fining people for littering. I don’t understand why Adams is so inclined to sit on his ass about this whole situation. It’s illegal to litter anyways, start handing out $500 fines and it all goes away. If people complain, who cares??? Stop trashing the campus!

Jefferson

December 7th, 2009
5:50 pm

They will pay, just ask for it.

go dawgs

December 7th, 2009
5:57 pm

cajdawg-
Four easy steps to a solution:

1)Cops ticket underage drinking among the students.
2)More trash cans.
2)Issue cititations for littering.
4)The athletic department should make it a greater priority to get tickets into the hands of alumni. There is way too much hanger-on-redneck-skank-azz-trash at UGA games- 90% of these people have no affiliation to the school except that they “love their dogs”. Rednecks litter.

1. What would ticketing underage drinkers accomplish besides putting money in the pockets of worthless, misguided, inept police departments? You should also know that they don’t just ticket underage drinkers, they send them to jail. Don’t think that is how the police need to be spending their time.
4. Do you have any evidence that these “rednecks” litter anymore than alumni? I certainly have never seen this trend.

Old Dawg

December 7th, 2009
5:58 pm

For the life of me, I can’t believe anyone would leave trash behind in an area like the north campus. I’ve always picked up my own trash and in many instances picked up others trash. It’s obvious a lot of folks haven’t had good home training, and don’t care what they do. The solution is simple: have campus cops ticket folks for a couple of hundred bucks when they see trash piling up around their area and the problem will quickly end. And others should use casual comments as peer pressure to clean up.

There will always be some trash whenever 100,000 folks show up, but this season was out of control. Take control UGA, or you’ll continue to be the laugh of the SEC and the nation. And we all want that to happen, don’t we?

Kingfish

December 7th, 2009
6:03 pm

Adams doesn’t want to charge? Please child. Adams would charge for air if he could get away with it. The north campus is too nice an area to become a garbage dump. It is still a college. Close it off, Mike, and put a your palace guards out there to enforce it.

FalconUGAFan

December 7th, 2009
6:04 pm

Charge..Permits..Arrests…whatever it takes…clean it up…its an embarrassment….

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
6:06 pm

This just in. The Climate Change Convention in Copenhagen has blamed UGA tailgaters for Global Warming.

Dawgstyle

December 7th, 2009
6:06 pm

One of the major problems with the scattered trash on North Campus is the scavengers who go from tailgate site to tailgate site during the game.They scatter the trash looking for alcohol, food and any thing else of value left behind. A greater police presence in the area during the game would help.
Also, the University has effectively concentrated the tailgating areas on campus by a number of things that it has done. Moving the fraternities to River Road is just one of them. I’m sure that the concentration of frats tailgating on N. Campus was an unintended consequence but in other areas of the campus they are roping off areas to make tailgating off limits.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
6:11 pm

Cuz – As a counter, the Heritage Foundation has just blamed the University of Hawaii for global cooling. Institutional lack of control over volcanoes.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
6:13 pm

“scavengers who go from tailgate site to tailgate site during the game.They scatter the trash looking for alcohol, food and any thing else of value left behind”

Trash it, and they will come…

Bill King

December 7th, 2009
6:13 pm

Grandad:

Haven’t heard anything but rumors about the coaching staff.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
6:19 pm

There will be coaching changes and rumors of coaches changing. Satan will play for the BCS trophy. I saw a brown longhorned steer being led by a Colt.
Sounds like Revelations to me.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
6:20 pm

“scavengers who go from tailgate site to tailgate site”

I wonder if those are the indigenous North American scavengers, or the Norway variety that came over in the holds of sailing ships during the 17th and 18th centuries.

Oh, rats.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
6:23 pm

Is “Pasadena” Spanish for “Meggido?”

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
6:26 pm

Cuz – I thought the crimson tide was one of the 10 plagues of Egypt.

frank james

December 7th, 2009
6:33 pm

Heck you need to charge or fine them. There is no excuse for what I have seen left. There is one thing about it, Willie Martinez and the other coaches can’t be blamed for this.

UGA student

December 7th, 2009
6:39 pm

As a current student, I’ve done my fair share of tailgating on North Campus. However, it absolutely disgusts me to see the amount of trash left on my campus after the Saturday home games. Even more so, to look out on campus from the library as I type essays and see nothing but dirt. All season, UGA has done an incredible job of getting the mess cleaned up by the time classes start back on Monday mornings, but its still disheartning to see people treat our campus this way.

I’m aware that as alcohol level rises, common sense drops. I’ve seen my fair share of students (male and female) relieving themselves in the bushes. More often than not, there are alumni and loyal Bulldog fans doing the exact same thing. We’re all guilty in our own ways here… but aren’t you guys supposed to be the grown-ups that help set an example?

There are over 30,000 students who live here year round and attend classes on campus throughout the week. How would you like it if I came to your home, dumped my trash in your yard, and proceeded to “pitch a loaf” on the floor of your bathroom?

UGA has tried announcements on the stadium scoreboard, they’ve increased the number of trash cans, they’ve tried to make people more aware of this problem… nobody seems to listen. If anything, the trash situation has gotten worse instead of better.

If grown individuals, students and adults alike, can’t do something as elementary as throwing away trash, the right to tailgate on North Campus should be restricted (hopefully not taken away). Nothing wrong with charging a fee if the folks who are going to tailgate there will actually take care of the spot around them.

If you’re worried about access to the stadium, walk down Lumpkin Street or Jackson Street. If anyone has seen where the fraternities are on River Road, you’ll know that they’re all within sight (and walking distance) of the Stadium. If they’re going to charge, I hope some of that money will be used to pay security to keep a watch over campus during the game to prevent all the homeless drifters from swooping in and raiding peoples’ tailgates.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
6:39 pm

frank, you may have something there. The tailgaters were just doing their part of civil disobedience wanting a change. Well they got the coaching change they demanded. I expect them to cleanup after themselves from now on.

DogGoneGaDawg

December 7th, 2009
6:39 pm

There might be something to that white helmet deal. About the only time UGA dominated Steve Spurrier was when he was wearing one. I am in favor of the white helmet!

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
6:41 pm

homeless drifters, Clint Eastwood?

Florida Dawg

December 7th, 2009
6:42 pm

If a cop can catch a football player on a scooter without a license, certainly they can catch a litter bug. It wouldn’t take too many fines and publicity to reduce litter.
Put them in jail for 24 hours…

DogGoneGaDawg

December 7th, 2009
6:42 pm

Good call Cuz. Let’s bring in the “High Plains Drifter” and clean up the north campus!

DogGoneGaDawg

December 7th, 2009
6:46 pm

In order to be able to tailgate on the north campus we might be better off requiring proof of non-residency in a trailer park.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
6:54 pm

I have an amazing idea. How about showing a ticket to the game being held that day for the ability to tailgate on North Campus. Sure it puts the screws to the students that the University won’t let into the game, but they should be used to getting screwed by the University.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
6:58 pm

Florida Dawg – Then they’d have to bring in trailers to use for temporary jails on game days.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
7:00 pm

Well that shoots DogGoneGaDawg’s idea down Delbert.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
7:02 pm

Cuz – the odd thing would be that the inmates would feel right at home. They might not want to leave. Could haul them out to Bogart and release them there.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
7:04 pm

Bad idea. Oconee county would sue.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
7:06 pm

If we can’t get Katrina victims out of trailers what makes us think we can get illiterate littering tailgaters out.

I just used illiterate littering cause it sounded nice.

Chan Gailey

December 7th, 2009
7:15 pm

Dirty filthy mutts deserves to go play a bowl in:

Shreveport: Home of the Funnel Cake

hahahahahahahahahahaha

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
7:17 pm

Cuz – “illiterate littering”…it’s almost alliterative!

Paul in RDU

December 7th, 2009
7:21 pm

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
6:26 pm
Cuz – I thought the crimson tide was one of the 10 plagues of Egypt.

A classic post Delbert – bravo.
Aren’t frogs also one of the 10 plagues?
Mmm – Take TCU over Cincy

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
7:25 pm

It could have been worse. If the SEC bowl arrangements had been different, it could have been the ultimate diss: The Emerald Nut Bowl. Tech fans refer to it as the “Chan Bowl.”

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
7:31 pm

Paul in RDU – Right about the frogs. Those were the wet and slimy kind, though. The TCU kind are spiny and aggressive. Close enough, Take the Texas Christian PlagueFrogs over the Egyptian BearCats.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
7:36 pm

Okay, I fell for that. As we know, the Cincygyptians play the Gators. The Boys of Boise play the Horny Frogs.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
7:52 pm

I think TCU beats the snot out of the Backstreet Boise Boys. Have you seen that one as a temp on the Geico commercial. Man I don’t want to be in the same room.

Funny, we played Texas A&M and TCU back in 1980. UGA beat A&M 42-0 and TCU 34-3. We put up a banner at our house on Milledge that said UGA 76 the State of Texas 3.

Paul in RDU

December 7th, 2009
7:56 pm

Del – It’s looking bad for Texas. I looked up the 10 plagues and one of them is the Plague of Livestock Death (sounds line anthrax to me!)

Plague of Livestock Death (דֶּבֶר): Ex. 9:1–7
“ This is what the LORD, the God of the Hebrews, says: “Let my people go, so that they may worship me.” If you refuse to let them go and continue to hold them back, the hand of the LORD will bring a terrible plague on your livestock in the field—on your horses and donkeys and camels and on your cattle and sheep and goats. ”
— Exodus 9:1–

Paul in RDU

December 7th, 2009
7:57 pm

like anthrax

UGA '01

December 7th, 2009
7:59 pm

I remember about 5 or 6 years ago my friends and I would tailgate before games on North Campus right outside the Law Library and there was only a minimal amount of people around us. We could set up just about anywhere we wanted (and this was during the Pollack/Green era so it wasn’t like we didn’t have some good teams).

The last few years though N. Campus has become a madhouse…what changed? Did some other part of campus get closed off for tailgating?

Bawney Fwank

December 7th, 2009
8:01 pm

Charge them. They were nicely asked to start cleaning up their garbage and they continue to trash the tailgating areas. If you pack it in you can pack it out!

Jdawg

December 7th, 2009
8:04 pm

I think the cops should set up a couple of tents of their own. Not only ticket litter bugs but put them in time out, an hour or so would do it. Make the tent an open one so everyone that walks by gets to see them. A little Public embarassment would do the trick. Or maybe instead of a ticket, make the offendors walk around and pick up trash.

Brad

December 7th, 2009
8:08 pm

I can’t believe some of you slobs are defending littering on campus. Take some pride in your school. The university makes tons of money because of a loyal fan base. That should not entitle you to trash it. You don’t litter and crap your own yard do you? On second thought, don’t answer that.

DirtyDawg

December 7th, 2009
8:09 pm

Have tried to say something nice about Shreveport a couple of times here today, but for some reason my posts haven’t been, er, posted. Maybe it was because I said something really ugly about Lame Lane…hope not, because I intend to continue to do so every chance I get.

Wife and I went to the ‘91 Independence Bowl and had a fine time. Since then Shreveport has added a lot of more stuff do to. In addition to a pleasant town, they’ve got more cajun/creole restaurants than Atlanta has high-priced steak places and BBQs combined…plus they’ve got casinos and horse racing – Atlanta has neither the last time I checked…

For those that feel put upon about being ‘tail-end Charlie’ in the SEC bowl selections, you lose five, blow the KY game, allow Lame Lane to whup-ya big-time, get jobbed by the officials in the LSU game, and seem to have done something to Pee-Oh the Outback Bowl people, along with the Chicky-Bowlers not wanting Georgians to come to town cause not enough will stay in the Downtown hotels (for a two or three night minimum…and just who does the Atlanta Sports Council think would come to a Georgia/GT Kickoff event? Martians?), then you have to just be thankful for whatever you get.

Go the Shreveport and have fun…guarantee it’ll be a better time than Hot-lanta or Miami. As much or more to do, plus the folks there are glad to see us coming – and not for pan-handling or mugging either.

Laissez les bons temps rouler!

BS Patrol

December 7th, 2009
8:14 pm

I think it’s a good idea that they should be charged. Indecent exposure would be a good place to start. Then maybe public intoxication?

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
8:31 pm

Paul in RDU – Sorry, I was distracted for awhile trying to fix something. Plumb forgot about the plague on livestock. Now with the rivers run with blood (crimson tide), this looks like a rock/paper/scissors problem.

UGA

December 7th, 2009
8:36 pm

Delbert……………….your a goober

UGA

December 7th, 2009
8:37 pm

Delbert……………I mean your a tool

UGA

December 7th, 2009
8:38 pm

Delbert………….What I meant was your a tard.

UGA

December 7th, 2009
8:39 pm

Delbert…….with all your catchy sayings you must be in yhe t-shirt business

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
8:40 pm

DirtyDawg – Historically, the New Orleans mob controls their associated areas better than the Miami mob, which is an open city, therefore beset by uncontrolled gangbangers. Whenever I’ve had to stay in the Miami area on business, it has been up in Jupiter or down in Key Largo. The one time I decided to stay in Miami proper, I got nervous and locked myself outside my hotel room in my underwear. You do *not* want to do that, ever!

Dawgs

December 7th, 2009
8:41 pm

Paying to park there won’t work. The only people willing to pay would be OLD folks and thats to far for them to walk. Have some police presence and fine people.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
8:44 pm

Somebody is knocking at my door.

Fat, Drunk and Stupid is no way to go through life, son.

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TechBuzz

December 7th, 2009
8:49 pm

Ga has to charge their redneck fans so they stop trashing their own university? Amazing!!! At Tech, there are no trashy rednecks throwing their trash everywhere. Academic quality—not evident at the university of football in athens.

Johnny DangerDawg

December 7th, 2009
8:51 pm

If you make people pay money, they’re not suddenly going to want to be tidier. If you make people pay money AND you assign them a designated space, then when you find trash in their area, they will just say that the trash was put there by someone else who was walking through the area but didn’t have his own tent. If you prevent independents (people who don’t have their own tent set up) from entering North Campus altogether, then you reduce the hustle and bustle of tailgating and ruin it for everyone.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
8:57 pm

Johnny DangerDawg – I think you are correct on the first point; there will always be people with more money than brains (or decency). Second point, I can see that as well…the old “soddit” defense…some other dude did it. Unsure about the third. Sort of like camping as opposed to tailgating, I guess.

Joseph

December 7th, 2009
9:04 pm

I am against the idea of having to pay but the atmosphere on North Campus the past few years has been different than what normally constitutes “tailgating”. Some of the people have used the games as an excuse to have large DJ parties that attract a hundred or so people. I think that something must be done but I feel like my $2000.00 for tickets and parking spot a deck that gets farther and farther away covers me. For the people that want to call the our fans that litter rednecks get over yourselves we live in Georgia and to many people around the country we are rednecks no matter if you live in Sugarloaf or in East Dublin. Redneck Solidarity!

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
9:10 pm

TechBuzz, Raj and Ali do not know how to tailgate. They think two for a dollar hotdogs and a big slurpee are tailgating, hence no mess.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
9:11 pm

I am with you Joseph. What do you use to keep your neck from peeling. Aloe gives me a rash.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
9:12 pm

First!!! Oh my God first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wait, it is on the second page.

Nevermind.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
9:13 pm

If the University is really concerned, there are enough intelligent people available to figure out a solution. Hopefully something short of fire hoses and rubber bullets.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
9:18 pm

I guess the 14?-year old from 45 minutes ago was sent to bed. If you don’t know the different from your possessive pronouns and contractions, you’re not fully educated yet.

And my Fat, Drunk and Stupid quote was from “Animal House.”

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
9:20 pm

Difference, not different. This computer is so dumb.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
9:22 pm

Cuz – any truth to the rumor that Ford is introducing an F-150 line of skin care products? Soft, mild and gentle?

RajinDawg

December 7th, 2009
9:23 pm

Just charge $1,000 per year to tailgate anywhere on campus. Pay up, or go to jail for any trespassing on game days anywhere on campus. The athens / university police need to get tough to enforce this ordinance, and UGA can make big money to hire people to clean up all the mess left behind.

BE#3

December 7th, 2009
9:24 pm

It’s the current students and “young” alumni that are the one’s responsible for the beast that has become litter fest on N. Campus.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
9:27 pm

RajinDawg – The favorite catchall for cops, “loitering.”

ApopkaDawg

December 7th, 2009
9:30 pm

Bill:
Are we really talking about Tailgating and garbage right now? Where are the blogs about who the Dawgs are going to get as a new DC????!!!! I realize we are in pure speculation mode here, but c’mon man!!! What is CMR saying about a replacement? What is Kirby Smart saying about coming back to Athens? Who is on CMR’s short list and who is showing some interest. Enough about the garbage already! Yes it stinks when fans abuse the campus, yes the University needs to crack down on offenders, but we’ve got some shoes to fill here and the Bulldog Nation needs some updates! Get off the garbage and get back on Coordinators.

john

December 7th, 2009
9:32 pm

The problem on North campus stems from ONE issue. When I was a freshmen 1997, students tailgated near their dorms and parking lots. My Sophmore or Junior year the university changed their parking policy to where students had to move their cars away from dorm lots mid day on Fridays before home games. This caused a shift in where students tailgated at. The university forced the students to congregate in the one place on campus where alumni tailgating wasn’t a priority…NORTH CAMPUS QUAD. The breakdown up there on gameday is about 85% students vs Alumni/Season ticket holders. Students have to walk up to the North Campus Quad so whatever is carried up there is left behind as garbage. They aren’t going back by the dorm after the tailgate on the way to the game or the bars downtown. I get to North Campus about 6:30am every Saturday. For the 8pm Kentucky kick off there was 50 of the temporary garbage cans set out. Thats not nearly enough for 10-15 thousand that show up to tailgate up there.

Its a simple issue of CAUSE and EFFECT. Kick the students out of their Dorm area and they congregate on North Campus.

trashy

December 7th, 2009
9:34 pm

Delbert D. :: that’s the best movie quote of ALL TIME!! [c/o the movie "Animal House"]

“Fat, Drunk and Stupid is no way to go through life Son” [Dean Vernon Wormer}

I can’t think of a more applicable phrase for the trash on campus situation at UGA. Get a grip on it no matter what it takes … adults trashing the campus worse than fraternity guys is just pathetic. Have some pride in your beautiful campus Bulldogs!!

Paul in RDU

December 7th, 2009
9:34 pm

Cuz – Raj and Ali won’t have hot dogs because don’t eat meat – it is against their religion.
They prefer Aloo Dali Wahe with Naan washed down with Meethe Laasi.

Yang and Li prefer rice with fish oil washed down with beer (Gambai!!)

You really don’t want to know what Nguyen and Kim have at their tailgate – suffice to say it may be related to UGA’s mascot.

uuugh...

December 7th, 2009
9:39 pm

Here we go…of course. Adams, mis-manages the tailgating on purpose, so that a huge mess is created by not providing enough services. Then a huge mess is left and the tailgators are at fault. So next year there will be a fee for tailgating on North Campus…and there will be no outcry. Instead there will only be support for the very person that created the problem in the first place. This is as crooked as crooked can be…and you suckers are just lapping it up willingly. Way to think for yourselves Bulldog nation! Most of you are just reacting to some admittedly awful pictures in the paper in support of the very person that stands to gain from charging to tailgate!!

Fools.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
9:44 pm

uuugh… – Scenario #2: Adams proclaims that previous administrations and the evil Dooley overbuilt the stadium for the available parking capacity, and requires that 45,000 seats be removed. It becomes central to his plan to deemphasize athletics.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
10:18 pm

Paul, what was I thinking. On those two for one dogs Raj might be eating his ancestor and Ali would go straight to Hades if they snuck in pork product on his all beef wieners. Kwon would probably want some nuc mom sauce before the game. I hear the Varsity has it on their “Charlie Dog Walkin”.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
10:21 pm

Amazing how we went from tailgating to college biblical prophecies back to tailgating. Aint America great!

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
10:23 pm

“Charlie Dog Walkin”…I’m still laughing….

Paul in RDU

December 7th, 2009
10:33 pm

Cuz – I’m rolling on the floor.

BuLLdawg

December 7th, 2009
10:33 pm

Georgia Tech should cover the 3.5.

Iowa’s NCAA SoS is Number 17 to Georgia Tech at Number 51.

Iowa’s wins are all 3 over very questionable teams. Penn State, Arizona, and Wisconsin – none of whom beat anyone else.

Iowa cannot run the football to save their soul, and that is how you beat Georgia Tech. They can light up the Tech secondary, but Tech has a month to figure out to never put 7 in the box and to drop back 5, assuming Tech can find a nickel back to drop back.

Iowa just is not a good match-up for Georgia Tech. A Conference Champion should not have to face a team who LOST 2 of their last 3 games, including hapless Ohio State whom The SEC owns and highly questionable Northwestern who played SoS Number 112 and therefore somehow is facing Auburn in the Outback Bowl.

Northwestern LOST 4 games against SoS Number 112, just wait until you see whom it is Northwestern LOST to, but Northwestern beat Iowa. Good Lord, Northwestern LOST to Syracuse 4-8, Minnesota 6-6, Penn State whose ONLY WIN is over Northwestern BCS Number 35, and 6-6 hapless too Michigan State. But, this Northwestern crap team beat Iowa.

Iowa should have no hope.

The Big Ten (11) is such a joke a conference, none of them playing any one, and worse yet, all of them losing to nobodies and beating highly questionable therefore, teams.

Now, if Georgia Tech gives up on its run, and tries to pass the football with a “qb” who in 34 games over 3 years has thrown a grand total of 12 TD passes to 11 interceptions, Tech would be playing straight into the hands of the only thing Iowa can do, and that is to defend the pass. Iowa gets lots of practice practicing against themselves, and Iowa can pass the football.

Surely, Georgia Tech is not going to be that stupid, again, like they were against us on their last 4 plays in a row, which cost them the game. And, we don’t even have a secondary.

Paul in RDU

December 7th, 2009
10:38 pm

Cuz – that last one of yours deserves a Gambei! (as the Chinese would say)

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
10:55 pm

BuLLdawg – Sagarin’s SOS rankings are Tech #15, Iowa #49. Whatever. Same point, in reverse, I guess.

I’ve been ranting about Iowa’s ranking all season. They beat Northern Iowa in the opener by blocking 2 attempts at a winning FG, 17-16. They beat Ark. St. 24-21. I actually watched parts of 2 of their games after that, and they set a new standard for desperation football in the Big-10. I never imagined that they would be playing Tech in a bowl game, or in any major bowl losing 2 of their last 3 games.

They were rumored for the Fiesta because of “a big fan base there” and “they travel well.”

Well, I can’t diss them anymore, because they are the next opponent. Tech has to play very well, as always with Tech’s lack of defensive prowess.

uuugh...

December 7th, 2009
11:08 pm

I apologize to the Junkyard Blawg nation…I made a few sarcastic posts using double entendre directed at Tech fans and the good Bill King saw fit to block one of my IP addresses. I have apologized and asked Bill to remove the block…but no dice. Thanks again Bill!.

The moral of the story is that the feelings of Tech fans are apparently more important than a true bulldog fan, here on the Junkyard Blawg.

I guess I understand.

bendawgs

December 7th, 2009
11:20 pm

I think it is a good idea. It is sad how bad the trash was this season. It will not look good in recruiting if the campus is trashed after games. That is the only way I see to solve it is by selling permits. It is sad that the fans can’t seem to show some respect for one of the best schools in the nation. I also think Walsh should have gotten first team honors. It is only because the Bama kicker plays for Bama. Walsh is the better kicker and should win Groza Award. Tech fans you lost 30-24. GO DAWGS!!!

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
11:21 pm

uuugh… – Don’t know what got you blocked, but I added my sarcasm following your opener. I assumed that most Georgia football fans are somewhat peeved with the current president. Even I was during the Dooley-pushed-out-the door episode, due to my respect for the man. I’m a Tech fan first, but I follow the Dawgs and I like to discuss football stuff.

UGA_2001

December 7th, 2009
11:22 pm

I am sick and tired of UGA fans and players acting like uniforms don’t matter.

The team I grew up cheering for has always had red jerseys, silver britches, and red helmets. They are generally considered one of the best looking uniforms in CFB and one of the most recognizeable.

It is the uniform Frank Sinkwich, Charlie Trippi, Fran Tarkenton, Herschel, Eric Zeier, Garrison Hearst, David Green, David Pollacks, etc, etc, etc wore.

Why change it and cheapen the program? Just wear the red and silver and stop entertaining calls to change it.

I thought most of our serious, ole school fans would like this but apparently not. Too many of our fans are just a bunch of wishy-washy flakes.

SOUTHGADAWG88

December 7th, 2009
11:23 pm

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
11:26 pm

Understand, Uzbekiestan, Afghanistan. Just get with the plan, Stan.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
11:27 pm

Paul, that was a high floater tossed my way.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
11:28 pm

SOUTHGADAWG88 – Really? Buck and Kincaid had Herbstreit on the show today, talking about Kelly. Kirk says he is the perfect fit: Irish-Catholic and likeable. He had recently talked with Kelly before Kelly’s interview today.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
11:31 pm

UGA2001, hate to burst your righteous indignation but Sinkwich, Trippi and Fran had silver helmets.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
11:32 pm

UGA_2001 – I’m “ole” school, back to the Wally Butts days, and silver britches really were silver, not gray, and the helmets were silver, too. Silver numbers on the jerseys, and that was it. Nobody decorated much in those days, pretty much like Notre Dame today.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
11:36 pm

Cuz – “Understand, Uzbekiestan, Afghanistan. Just get with the plan, Stan.”

Thanks, now I’ll have that song in my head all night.

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
11:38 pm

least I could do Del.
your pal,
Cuz

Cuz

December 7th, 2009
11:40 pm

Hey Del, I only saw it on the black and white. But one Dawg fan said in the Butts-Dodd era, watching the game was like watching a game at the US Mint. all gold and silver. I bet that was something.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
11:48 pm

Cuz – In fact, that was me. I saw the Georgia-Georgia Tech game at Sanford when Lothridge was a soph (1960 or 61?) I could check, but that would be boring. I was ushering with the Boy Scouts that day. The hedge at the railroad end had an arbor, I guess you’d call it, and both teams ran under that. Spectacular highlights off the gold and silver helmets.

Delbert D.

December 7th, 2009
11:50 pm

The helmets were actual gold and silver paint, not the plastic-perma-clearcoat that Tech uses now. Notre Dame still paints after every game, just like in “Rudy”.

Delbert D.

December 8th, 2009
12:06 am

Midnight, Cuz…got to check out soon, before I go face down on the keyboard…

Cuz

December 8th, 2009
12:06 am

The only Notre Dame film I have ever seen was Knute Rockne. They could never make one better than that. It had a President and a guy that owned a bar I got drunk in in Nawlins.

Cuz

December 8th, 2009
12:08 am

uuugghh, that is ugh. They are here, they just use different names. Del aint so bad for a Jacket. Served his country by ushering and repeling boarders on a submarine.

uuugh...

December 8th, 2009
12:14 am

blocked again. Perfect. Bill is Sofa King Wee Todd Did…and My Dixie Wrecked thinking of the attractive girl at Tech.

Signing off.

Delbert D.

December 8th, 2009
12:16 am

uuugh…Those two are no friends of mine. I auto-skip them on any blog. There’s a line, and it’s different with the blogs. The Chris Boggs Tech blog, which I don’t care much for, blocked m for posting his old 3-paragraph Chan and Greyhound garbage. That was a couple of weeks back, and I haven’t checked since. I stick with the front page AJC blogs, and I watch my language and poke only humorous jabs.

Delbert D.

December 8th, 2009
12:19 am

Cuz – the only one I *remember* getting drunk in in “Nawlins” is Pat O’Brien’s. Somewhere, I vaguely recall sitting in on bass horn with a jazz band…

uuugh...

December 8th, 2009
12:20 am

Del…the irony is that my last post was far more offensive than anything I have ever posted before. I am done. Enjoy yourself…you really seem like most tech fans that I knew prior to this last year. Keep up the good work!

Delbert D.

December 8th, 2009
12:26 am

Sometimes it’s an automatic censor-bot. I finally had to s-p-e-l-l out a word that means “having keen mental perception and understanding”. The bots don’t like big words.

Delbert D.

December 8th, 2009
12:27 am

uuugh… – will do, take care.

Delbert D.

December 8th, 2009
12:39 am

I’m outta here…

Neutral observor

December 8th, 2009
12:40 am

Just how dumb are you Georgia people? Why don’t you take a cue from some other SEC fans. At other campuses they don’t have this problem and if they do its much smaller in scope. Why? Because on game day they go around the tailgate area handing out trash bags for people to put their garbage. And then they come back around after the game or the next day and collect the full trash bags. How darn hard is that???

Maddawg

December 8th, 2009
2:14 am

Absolutely! $50.00 is a good starting price, I say.

ozzfest

December 8th, 2009
4:12 am

HERSCHEL NEVER CRIED.
HERSCHEL WON 3 SEC TITLES.
THE END.

BuLLdawg

December 8th, 2009
4:51 am

Look, Tech only beat 1 team in the BCS Top 25.

Tech played 6 opponents who do not even go to a bowl game.

Your campus is in the slums where the crime is, and the guns, and the drugs.

Tech’s SoS is Number 51 by The NCAA itself.

Iowa is a horrible opponent for any conference CHUMPionship game winner to have to play.

The game is in Miami, where the crime approximates that of Tech’s own campus. It is a The BCS Game which always has the dead last worst rating, and this match-up with Iowa is a horrible match-up with Iowa, who lost to Northwestern for God’s sake with their SoS Number 112 in the nation. Iowa is a horrible football team, whose only strength is stopping the pass, which is what Georgia Tech did to lose to UGA.

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Russ GATA

December 8th, 2009
6:37 am

UGA sold their soul to ESPN with the rest of the SEC.
They can afford the clean up their night game greed caused.

Russ GATA

December 8th, 2009
6:39 am

UGA can aford to pay the clean up.
Their greed caused it to go night game for $.

Ask ESPN to clean it.
Herbstreet then could be useful in life.

LawDawg

December 8th, 2009
7:02 am

I have been tailgating on North Campus since the 80’s. There were no problems there until the hoards of young tailgaters arrived with their beer pong tables. It is not the older crowd trashing the place. It is not non-alum red necks either. It appears to me that it is recent grads who can’t afford a ticket and just show up to party. If they restricted North Campus to ticket holders the problem would go away. I know that it is the place to be on game day. However, when you trash the place, you lose your privilege. At homecoming when the area is blocked off for homecoming functions, everything is clean in those areas. They could plan more functions and restrict the area to those with a purchased ticket for the area.

AltamahaDawg

December 8th, 2009
7:21 am

I understand the Tech admin made sure they didn’t have this issue with thier football crowd. They went out and purchased a third trash can for the parking lot.

71 Dawg

December 8th, 2009
7:34 am

Most of the partying and trashing of the Old College portion of the campus is student or student wannabes who likely don’t even have intentions of going to the game. They are only there for the party – I would imagine their apartments and dorm rooms probably look the same as the campus does after game day. Most season ticket holders would never be that irresponsible! From the main library to the edge of town would have to be off-limits to “tailgateing” for everyone if you really want to be fair about it. I usually walk throught that area after games and I think it’s horrible what happens to the grounds, but that is the way it is with a “big-time” program – lots of people = lots of trash. With the new SEC television deal, there will be more and more night games so people will have more and more time to create trash – and to get soused! Maybe the big bucks from the TV deal can be used to fund the hiring of more “clean up” employees – help the campus and the economy all at once!

71 Dawg

December 8th, 2009
7:46 am

To UGA2001 – You better go look at some old videos man – Hershell wore red pants in away games during some of his time here dude! The helmets used to be silver back when Tarkenton played. the 1997 Outback Bowl featured UGA wearing black pants and the helmets all had black face masks and that team kicked Ron Dayne and Wisconsin all over the Big Sombrero. You might be too young to have a worthwhile opinion about some subjects but keep trying !

SimpleDawg

December 8th, 2009
8:39 am

Why not, they charge for everything else.

corey

December 8th, 2009
8:46 am

wait…is rammer jammer an alabama fan…and is criticizing schools for having redneck sidewalk alumni LOL didn’t alabama write the book on that?

Seriously??

December 8th, 2009
9:06 am

That is Class right there. If the president is smart he won’t let these scumbags tailgate on campus anymore. I am ashamed!!! And it’s not the so called “redneck” fans doing it, it is the Students and Alumni.

Dawgblitz

December 8th, 2009
9:14 am

I think it’s a dang disgrace! Why would a respectable Dawg fan trash the campus? Show some dang respect for your university and pick up after yourself. It’s crazy … They give you the trashbags. How hard is it to place your trash in the bag? At our tailgates, we tie a trashbag on the side of the popup tent. We also make sure all the trash is placed in the bags. Come on guys! Don’t screw it up for everybody! Be respectful of the greatest university in the land! Go Dawgs!!!!

Shreveport Bound & Down

December 8th, 2009
9:34 am

I got my tickets on the 50 yard line…. soooo excited ;P

I say its great to be a Georgia Bulldawg in Shreveport!

Hushull

December 8th, 2009
9:36 am

Lots of trash on the North Campus. Plus look at all the litter it leaves.

JimboDawg

December 8th, 2009
9:44 am

I just got punched in the face by a Yellow Jacket Fan and it HURT…I cried.

clemkudtlhopr

December 8th, 2009
9:49 am

I don’t do well with change. Leave it like it is. The U has already taken away my favorite place to tailgate. I hope at some point the garbage gets cleaned up during the week.Does the garbage just keep piling up like a landfill. Whats the worry. Blair Walsh is All-SEC in my book!

RxDawg

December 8th, 2009
10:14 am

I duno…that sounds a little tough. It’s not really fair to the students. Don’t turn Athen’s on gameday into a NFL team on gameday.

Just hire more help, put out more trash bins. They have the money. Most people do not want to litter.

RammaBama

December 8th, 2009
10:39 am

Redneck georgia fans are used to just throwing stuff on the ground around their trailers, so when they show up on campus on gameday, it’s more of the same. At bama, the fans keep the campus clean.

collegeballfan

December 8th, 2009
10:41 am

” Most people do not want to litter.”

Bull. My experience in Athens is that most people just don’t give a damn about the campus.

Crying shame, one of the more attractive campuses in the south.

Will

December 8th, 2009
11:39 am

Understand that the only way a liberal knows how to solve a problem is to tax-

Tiger's Wood

December 8th, 2009
11:52 am

Psst….Thug-dawg fans….

…if you lookin for a GOOOOOD time in Shreveport, I have some names…

…just hide your caller ID when you give me a call.

- Tiger

Shreveport Shorty

December 8th, 2009
12:58 pm

In shreveport, they got some purty women, boiled crawfish and cold beer. Come on down ga fans!

Billy Bennett

December 8th, 2009
1:04 pm

They should have thought of this before accepting the billion dollar tv package from ESPN making so many games start at night!

Typical hypocrisy of the NCAA!

cajdawg

December 8th, 2009
1:18 pm

To highlight how bad the problem has become, an Alabama fan is calling UGA redneck.

RamahissisterBama:
“Redneck georgia fans are used to just throwing stuff on the ground around their trailers, so when they show up on campus on gameday, it’s more of the same. At bama, the fans keep the campus clean.”

Doctor Dawg

December 8th, 2009
1:47 pm

Georgia officials shouldn’t be complaining about all this trash all over campus. They make millions each game day and can afford to hire a bunch of people to go clean it all up. Who has time to throw away all the beer cans and food after a heavy day of drinking and eating at tailgate parties. Just hire some bums in the ghettos near campus to come clean it up and take whatever leftovers they want.

Delbert D.

December 8th, 2009
2:43 pm

BuLLDawg “Look, Tech only beat 1 team in the BCS Top 25.”

So?
Texas beat only 1 team in the top 25.
Florida beat only 1 team in the top 25.
Alabama beat only 2 teams in the top 25.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-final-coaches-ballots.htm

Elin Queen Of The '3 Iron'

December 8th, 2009
3:40 pm

I can solve the litter problem on North Campus…

When anybody litters, just turn me loose on them with my 3-iron…

…I have some time on my hands these days anyway.

moonshadow

December 8th, 2009
3:52 pm

I think its an excellent idea charge them for a permit that way if there is a problem you know who to contact.

Wow

December 8th, 2009
6:30 pm

Being an alumn and season ticket holder, I am ashamed of NC….I have met friends there (older folks in thier 40’s) and watched all of these young punks…..Yea we drink/party etc, but we do throw things in a bag etc. The problem today is with the yound punks <25….and the folks like someone earlier said…the folks who just show up to party with no intention of going to the game….Face it 60% of tickets holders never attended UGA, nor anywhere ,and it is funny to watch how much they put into game day…..The solution is to have more police and trash service ongoing in that area..then the party folks will leave for somewhere else. I personally get embarassed when I see the "typical" dog fan hanging around spewing their knowledge and those are the ones that get interviewed on T.V. Hell, maybe stop selling tix to non alumni

Joshua

December 8th, 2009
7:15 pm

yeah most people on North Campus tailgating do or did pay…its called $10,000 a year for tuition…

Joshua

December 8th, 2009
7:19 pm

But don’t get me wrong the trash on North Campus is out of control…and something needs to be done…mainly personal responsibility…something to many people lack these days.

FLA DAWG

December 8th, 2009
7:59 pm

Hey Dawgs,

I’m in the camp that Tebow is a damn good talent and would do well in the NFL. But I think the Jax Jags trying to pull him in for attendance would be disasterous for this guy.

He’d be a sideshow for two years then gone. He needs to go somewhere he can get some top notch NFL QB coaching. Not so sure Jax is the place.

TCwho

December 8th, 2009
8:23 pm

I wouldn’t show many of those pictures, that is a disgrace to the University and the football program. The fans that do that to a college campus must have absolutely no class, like they were raised in a barn or something. Get it together. 41-17

New Rules

December 8th, 2009
8:45 pm

Allow only UGA alumni to tailgate on north campus and require a permit, that costs $100 per game, which is renewed only if all trash in the reserved area is completed picked up before the game.

simple

December 8th, 2009
8:54 pm

since BuLL has so much spare time (as an investigator), pay him to clean your campus.

Morgan Bearden

December 8th, 2009
9:53 pm

Auction off sections of North Campus like the government does oil leases. Require a fee to bid and another heavy fee per game. Also, require a deposit based on the area of the lease.

Do not restrict free passage of non-tailgaters. The sidewalks should be used to define the leased areas and should be open for free passage.

If this doesn’t work shut it down and protect it with a (well rested) contingent from the Georgia National Guard.

I have no sympathy for these people. Trash breeds trash and this proves it!

Meredith

December 8th, 2009
11:36 pm

UGA should follow what many popular beach towns do- anyone caught for underage possession/public intoxication/etc. should have to serve trash duty for the next week’s game. They wear orange vests and spend the day/night picking up trash on North Campus. Hopefully both the abuse of alcohol and the tailgating trash will begin to decline.

Taco

December 9th, 2009
9:01 am

Let them tail gate wherever they wish. These are same drunks that have to pick it anyway when they go back to their trash collectors jobs on Mondays anywho! Sanitation Engineers…..sorry.

Big Booster

December 9th, 2009
9:57 am

UGA should allow only high dollar boosters to park and tailgate on campus and keep all the other rif raf off campus completely. They are the ones throwing trash everywhere.

Enough Already!

December 9th, 2009
12:58 pm

How about we block off the grassy areas of North Campus completely!!!! Tailgating is for parking lots. I get to Athens for about one a game a year and now that I am an alumni, I have an appreciation for the beauty of north campus. I understand that this is prime real estate (between downtown & the stadium) however, I don’t want my memories of historic north campus to be of public urination and beer pong. I enjoy a tailgate party as much as the next guy – but not at the expense of the campus. Party on – just somewhere else!

BBB

December 9th, 2009
2:45 pm

I could CARE LESS what the Athens Banner Herald or The Red and Black think!!! Actually, I could CARE LESS what the AJC thinks as well!

TR

December 9th, 2009
3:49 pm

Considering that UGA had to close the library on North Campus on game day due to fans throwing up in the stairwells and peeing in the stacks, I really doubt that adding more trash bags is going to help.

ugaaccountant

December 9th, 2009
4:12 pm

This is simply not an issue. Cleanup is the price any university has to pay for hosting a football game.

party crasher where are you?

December 9th, 2009
4:30 pm

Atlanta Motor Speedway charges around $1000.00 for a parking weekend for one of those motorhomes that cost 2-4 hundred thousand dollars. the owners pay it to get a reserved spot.

it won't matter

December 9th, 2009
4:58 pm

The idiots who are too sorry, lazy, trashy, to pick up their own garbage could care less that the University has to pay people to pick it up. They think that it is their lot in life to have others pick up after them, wait on them, do for them. The campus police have no trouble getting out in force to check on middle aged fans sitting around a flat screen television to see if the red cups are holding alcohol or not, while they sit at a spotless tailgate site, bothering no one and causing no ruckus. Let the police patrol the North Campus spot, and if a tailgate spot is trashed, determine who is the owner of the tent, television, etc.. in short, whose tailgate it is, and fine them say, 50 bucks, or 100 bucks. Or better yet, fine every person there 50 bucks. Maybe teach these spoiled morons to pick up after themselves.

it won't matter

December 9th, 2009
5:01 pm

My guess is that ‘ugaaccountant’ is less than 30-35 years old. Why? That seems to be the age that most feels others should clean up their messes. Your parents did a poor job of teaching you how to fit into society, and we would all benefit from your early demise.

it won't matter

December 9th, 2009
5:04 pm

BBB, it’s ‘couldn’t care less’, it means there is no possible way it could mean less to you what those entities think. Geesh,

Mikadams

December 9th, 2009
5:05 pm

Meredith, now there’s a simple idea that could work. Nicely done!

nevr argue with a fool 'cause ...

December 9th, 2009
6:19 pm

Even though I am not a dog fan, I am a fan of the school of environmental design, one of the best anywhere. The attitude that ” It’s OK to be an idiot & a slob if I pay for the privilege” is while pathetic, all too common in the Bulldog nation. Just like an “undisciplined team”, we are our toughest opponent. To disrespect a proud legacy as the oldest land grant institution in the country and one of the most beautiful schools in the country by tolerating this is a shame. ‘Bama doesn’t do it. Ole Miss wouldn’t THINK of it…
I am not saying that there isn’t litter on Saturdays in these places, but there is definitely NOT reckless disregard at those schools, I have seen it the last 3 or 4 years. WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT UGA ?

Sanford Drive

December 9th, 2009
7:16 pm

The trash issue has gone down significantly since the University decided to put more than 8 trashcans around campus. Honestly, I don’t condone littering, but garbage will happen if you don’t give fans enough trash recepticles. We always put the trash in the car & emptied it when we got home because we couldn’t ever find any trash cans. The University brought this problem on themselves.

Bill King

December 9th, 2009
7:31 pm

BBB:

If you could care less, that means you care.

I believe what you meant to say was that you couldn’t care less.

espn

December 9th, 2009
7:54 pm

just wait until we schedule Thursday night dog games

question

December 9th, 2009
8:00 pm

Bill, can the dogs play a freshman in the bowl and lose the redshirt?

PS DAWG

December 9th, 2009
8:25 pm

There is certainly a problem. People do need to have more respect. Pay to tailgate may be an answer, but before that. Try having some security on North Campus after 7pm. As reported to me by the officer that spends the day there, at kick-off everyone is reassigned. There are periodic patrols through the area, but no one there consistent. I asked because we have people stay at the tailgate and watch the game and I needed to know where they would go to get help if needed. When security leaves, the area changes–mostly drunks left up there wandering and homeless people rumaging hrough trash looking for cans–dumping it out. We need responsibility, but the University needs to help.

DPDawg

December 9th, 2009
9:20 pm

I say make North Campus a no alcohol tailgating area. Don’t allow alcohol and police it like crazy (more on this later). That way only responsible tailgaters will be attracted to North Campus.

The root cause is irresponsible drunks who don’t care about the mess they leave behind. I happen to tailgate with responsible drunks. We drink plently but take our trash home with us and leave our area neat. Most of our neighbors do the same. It’s sad that alcohol is always linked to the mess left on North Campus. Sad, but true!

Any solution will not be successfull until Uga gets the police involved. Without enfourcement, no rule is effective.

The Lizard

December 10th, 2009
3:44 am

It’s simple-User abusers pay!

BuLLdawg

December 10th, 2009
7:05 am

We work on not having trash on our Top 10 beautiful campus in the world.

Tech, instead, has nothing but CRIME and drugs on their campus, in the slums of a city of 6 million where their students are held up all the time by gunmen who break down their doors to rob them.

toga

December 10th, 2009
8:27 am

More determined than ever the ELEPHANTS they came,
Saban clapped and shouted and called them by name,
Now Cody! Now Mark! Now G-Mac and Ro!
On Tiffin! On Javy! On Trent! On Julio!
To the TOP of the conference! To the TOP of the poll!
Rammer Jammer,Yellowhammer and ROLL TIDE ROLL!

billdawg

December 10th, 2009
9:45 am

Does anyone ever notice that the NC “mess” is always the crowd that tailgates in the library/law library area? The area near the arch has been cleaned up substantially. The pictures are always of the “library” area. Don’t know the logic of that, but it is a good question.