Jacksonville is right place for Dogs-Gators

ga flaJust about everyone in the Bulldog Nation has an opinion on keeping the Georgia-Florida game in Jacksonville and those opinions have been aired here many times. But since the UGA Athletics Board has decided that the game should stay there, at least for another six years, I figured some of you might want to vent one way or the other on the subject.

As far as I’m concerned, they made the right decision if you want Georgia-Florida to remain one of college football’s marquee games, like Oklahoma-Texas. As I’ve written before, it’s the 50/50 split and cocktail party atmosphere that elevate this match-up above just another important game in the SEC East.

You can make a convincing case for playing the game in Athens and Gainesville or at least alternating home-and-home with Jacksonville, but in the end that would take away from what makes Georgia-Florida special and a lock every year for a national TV slot.

That’s my take. So now that they’ve made it official it will stay in Jacksonville, feel free to share your thoughts.

113 comments Add your comment

CFB fanatic

September 23rd, 2009
4:44 pm

Its not really a “neutral site”. These big games were played in sites like this due to those stadiums being larger than the on-campus stadiums. Now that UGA holds 92,000+ and UF holds 90,000+ they dwarf the 76,000 of Jax stadium. All of the big rivalries are on campus now due to these expansions of college campus stadiums. Army/Navy and Texas/OU are the only notable exceptions.

masdonjamie

September 23rd, 2009
4:46 pm

Enter your comments hereI would have prefered home and home. Many fans can not afford the cost for a trip to jacksonville nor the contribution amount required to purchase tickets. Another example of how UGA is becoming corporate and forgetting about the fans that have made this school so great

Tim

September 23rd, 2009
4:49 pm

Just goes to show you that these guys making the decisions know what they’re doing. Well done.

Okefenokee Dawg

September 23rd, 2009
4:50 pm

I hope that this blog subject is dead for 6 years. As I said in an earlier blog on this same subject, I would split the distance and play it in Vidalia.

Tim

September 23rd, 2009
4:51 pm

Playing on the fast turf of the Georgia Dome would only afford UGA fans more excuses for not winning. “The faster players of the Gators don’t need help being faster. Move it back to grass!” Jesus. The better team wins, no matter the venue. Tell your coach that.

dawgfanatic24-7

September 23rd, 2009
4:55 pm

Tradition is overrated. Let Athens roll in the money every other year. I live in north Ga and will never make the trip to Jax. I’m sure its fun but there is nothing like game day in athens.

DawgNation

September 23rd, 2009
5:20 pm

Makes no difference to me. I can’t get tickets to the game anyway if it was played in Athens or Atlanta much less Jacksonville, so unless you’re that 100,000 dollar contributor then CBS and your living room are good enough.

Shane

September 23rd, 2009
5:22 pm

Let’s keep the tradition alive and please leave the game in Jax.

RedPantsDawg

September 23rd, 2009
5:22 pm

Maybe Damon will be sucessful in moving the Georgia vs Georgia Tech game to the dome as has been rumored. Think of all the money UGA could get from playing two of the biggest games at neutral sites.

Cuz

September 23rd, 2009
5:22 pm

Just do what I do. Make a trip to the island formerly known and watch it there. Heck, I don’t even play golf. But the island is great in late October. It also helps if you have a family house there.

Really?

September 23rd, 2009
5:39 pm

Gatorzone,

Five worst passer ratings in the NFL:

Matthew Stafford, Lions, 40.5
Jake Delhomme, Panthers, 45.3
JaMarcus Russell, Raiders, 46.6
Matt Cassel, Chiefs, 66.3
Brady Quinn, Browns, 66.9
Enter your comments here

You could insert Tom Brady in at QB for Detroit and his stats wouldn’t be a whole lot better. When the team around you is horrible it is tough to put up good numbers. Tebow won’t have numbers as close to as good as Staffords numbers when he is in the NFL next year, because he won’t be throwing too much from the TE position.

Sautee Dawg

September 23rd, 2009
5:42 pm

Bill, I agree with you on the Jax game staying where it is. Not only do fans from both schools use this time every year for a short vacation but as a reunion.
Besides if the game were moved to the Ga. Dome every other year by the time all the sponsors (Coke, Budweiser, ect,) got their share of the tickets, both schools probably wouldn’t get but about 15,000 seats each. That’s what happens to the SEC championship game every year at the Dome.

mark

September 23rd, 2009
5:48 pm

it is a shame that we UGA loses money every other year by playing in jax. it means that we lose a home game every other year. it hurts the business in athens, it hurts the concessions which help fund the school. think about how much it would help hotels in athens and would keep the money local every other year. WE NEED TO PLAY THIS GAME IN A HOME AND HOME.

you can take it for what it is worth, but it will always be a home game for florida. it is only a 90 minute drive for them. they can sleep in their own dorm the night before which is something UGA can not do when it is in jax.

bottom line is it is sad that this game is played in jax every year.

Frank

September 23rd, 2009
6:00 pm

Mark…..you are the typical puppie fan that is ignorant when it comes to this game.

UF buses over from Gainesville the day before the game and spends the night in a hotel just like the puppies do. it’s a 2 hour bus ride to ponte vedra beach. the puppies take a 40 min flight and stay in a hotel in jax. the tix are split 50/50. the UF football team has no advantage whatsoever with the game in jax.

i would be glad to send you some cheese to go with all you whine.

GTinNashville

September 23rd, 2009
6:02 pm

I don’t have a dog in the hunt (pun intended), but moving to the Georgia dome does not make sense. Jacksonville is a stones throw from the GA border. Atlanta is not anywhere near the FL border. I know many south georgia UGA fans who do cherish that game because it is too far to drive to Athens. Same reason UT used to m\play a game in Memphis every year. If you are going to end the tradition, got to home-and-home. But I think that would be a big mistake. You may not appreciate the tradition, but your grandchildren probably will.

SwampPoodle

September 23rd, 2009
6:06 pm

Good decision. Playing the game in Jax has tradition and history. Remember Munson worrying about Dawgs destroying condos on St Simons in 1980.

Jacksonville loves the Georgia Bulldogs and the Dawgs have recruited well down there.

DawgRogue

September 23rd, 2009
6:08 pm

Hopefully, over the next 6 years of this contract, Georgia wins at least 1 or 2 games. If not, they may not renew it in 2016. Enough is enough!

45ACP

September 23rd, 2009
6:09 pm

While you’re on the Island call Captain Andy Hicks and schedule a fishing trip. Shark, tarpon, redfish.
(Andy you owe me for the plug)

mark

September 23rd, 2009
6:21 pm

frank. if you think that UGA takes a 40 minute plane ride to jax. then you need your head examined. on the way back from jax. we always have to stop in atlanta and transfer. that is the truth. get over it.

tradition needs to be abolished, swamp poodle. its time we look to the future instead of living in the past. but thats right. you want to see the game in jax, so you can go to it. why doesn’t UGA think of the fans who live in chattanooga or dalton. for them, its extremely hard to go to jax. it may be a short drive for you. but why should you get the gane. you do not live in athens just like i do not live in athens.

why dont you think of it this way…. last year UGA had 4 straight ganes away from home… NO other college team had to put up with crap like that. traveling is tiresom and hurts the team. and notice. our first game back from that 4 game road trip was ga tech. and i really believe that that road trip did play into the tech game

KJ

September 23rd, 2009
6:25 pm

Hey Gaytorzone, Stafford has played a whopping 2 games in the NFL. How did Wuerffel, Grossman and Palmer fare in their entire NFL career?

That’s right, you can STFU now.

Chopdawg

September 23rd, 2009
6:33 pm

Great news! Gonna miss the game this year (hate it, but the bad economy = bad job situation) but now I can look forward to six more years in JAX luv it bigtime: the beach at Amelia, golf on Friday, great food, best scenery in the world; no bowl game is better.

dawgstephen

September 23rd, 2009
6:38 pm

NEWS FLASH–

This is about what is best for the two schools and NOT for what is best for the fans in South Georgia. I know why you guys love it down there, but what is best for the dawgs?? What is Florida’s motivation and demanding to keep it there?? THink about that.

GT Falcon

September 23rd, 2009
6:42 pm

GatorZone:
Got to stick up for the dogs here and its a first for me.

Does UF even have starting QB in the NFL right now? Or even on a roster at that? Don’t know how you can talk trash when you don’t even have one. It would be one thing if P. Manning was a gator and not a vol. Seems silly. And I know tech doesn’t have one but I’m not talking trash.

As a Ga resident it would be great to get some of that $$$$ from the game in our state.

Pumpdawg

September 23rd, 2009
6:45 pm

I’ve noticed a few of the people here saying we need to move the game because they’re tired of Georgia losing in Jacksonville.They must be too young to remember that Georgia used to win consistently down there.Florida has just had the better team the last few years.Do you people not remember the home-home series in the mid-nineties?Florida won both.A home advantage doesn’t guarantee a win.

Cuz

September 23rd, 2009
6:50 pm

Falcon, ask the business owners in the Golden Isles if they get any money on GA-FLA weekend. C’mon dude, you got to be smarter than that.

Cuz

September 23rd, 2009
6:52 pm

This is South Georgia’s homegame. The rest of the Bulldawg nation needs to realize it and quit whining like a spoiled kid.

Ma

September 23rd, 2009
7:09 pm

Cuz, since when does South Georgia dictate what the “Georgia Bulldogs” do? I don’t mind it staying in Jax but your reasoning is pathetic.

Jimdawg

September 23rd, 2009
8:01 pm

Enter your comments here
Why would we want to play at the Dome. It is smaller, hard to get to, little parking, etc.

NikkiFree

September 23rd, 2009
8:27 pm

Just beat those #### Gators! I don’t care where it’s done!

GT Falcon

September 23rd, 2009
8:30 pm

Cuz,
The money made in that area of south ga is a fraction of the money that would be made in the city of Atlanta if the game moved here. You got to be smarter that now….

Rampdawg

September 23rd, 2009
8:34 pm

Enter your comments here

Keep the damn game right where it has been(save a couple years)
since 1933.
This series goes in 20 year cycles(look it up)

Don

September 23rd, 2009
9:00 pm

For a program and following that cherishes winning at all cost and that winning is everything, this decision is disappointingly contrary to that philosophy.

I want this program to have its best chance to win every game. We should admit we cannot beat UF in a road game consistently (and not even half the time) anymore. Home and home would give us every legitimate chance to win at least on an equal basis.

I am afraid we have handicapped our SEC and national championship chances again for a number of years.

AltamahaDawg

September 23rd, 2009
9:02 pm

Mark, the head examiners have widely reported that BOTH schools would lose about 1.2 million a year to go home and home.

Take it for what its worth but they sleep in J-ville Friday night too. This aint high school. Seriously…..load the bus and drive to J-ville literally hours before the game…really…??

They have already announced that UGA wil fly directly from Athens now, including this one.

Fl fans are going to be in Tampa, and Naples, and Miami, just like Dawgs fans are going to in Dalton.

I am certain that last year’s scheduling oddity did not figure into the discussion. UGA has the week off before and 3 home game in a row after the game this year. FL will on the road 4 out of 5 games including this one.

AltamahaDawg

September 23rd, 2009
9:04 pm

Ma, you sort of contradicted your point there didn’t you?

Jeff

September 23rd, 2009
9:06 pm

Doesn’t make a dime’s bit of difference where the game is played. As long as Urban is coaching FL and Richt is coaching GA, FL will continue to win at roughly a 3 out of 4 clip.

This series goes in cycles. Dooley owned us for approximately 20 years and Spurrier and Meyer have owned the Dawgs for about the same amount of time. Until the coaches change, FL will continue to dominate. They could play every game between the hedges–doesn’t matter.

ws

September 23rd, 2009
9:09 pm

It is ashamed that we care more about the mighty dollar than a crystal ball and Mike Adams knows how to pick a puppett because he sure has one in Damon Evans.

Big Dawg 'N VA

September 23rd, 2009
9:44 pm

Keep it in JAX! It makes it that much sweeter when we beat them in their own back yard. After Tebow leaves, we get a new DC and Aaron Murray takes over the offense I predict we will win 5 straight and restore some order!

ricardo tranquillo

September 23rd, 2009
9:54 pm

to hell with the uga corporation. i will be playong golf in augusta on game day

landshark

September 23rd, 2009
10:09 pm

It’s NOT a neutral site….it favors the better team.
It runs in cycles; up until the late 80’s the Gators were wanting it changed to a home and home.
The pendulum swings, and now the ‘dogs want it changed.
Bring a better team to the game and enjoy the better results.

gtfanfrom1951

September 23rd, 2009
10:19 pm

I wish someone would beat the Gators. Fla needs the money that UGA students will spend on beer and driving tickets.

Z.Itchy

September 23rd, 2009
10:23 pm

I don’t think it’s fair. The home game advantage is well documented and Georgia suffers from this disadvantage. Jacksonville’s proximity to Gainesville makes it a slam dunk home game every time. And as far as the TV lock goes, do you really think the GA-FL game, wherever they play, will not be televised? That just won’t happen. They should swap home games just like everybody else in the UNIVERSE!!!

mark

September 23rd, 2009
10:47 pm

AltamahaDawg, please explain how UGA will lose 1.2 million dollers by hosting the game in athens when the school does not make money already? the jax stadium is smaller and we get less tickets, plus we have to pay a portion of every ticket sold to the jax stadium. PLEASE EXPLAIN YOURSELF.

bottom line is season games should never be in alternate site. its the same with the oklahoma and texas game. that game should also be played on a home and home site.

and you can look it up. a couple years ago, after we beat florida, larry munson said after the game that UGA would have to transfer in atlanta before heading to athens and told the people who wanted to welcome UGA back that the team would not arrive back until 5am. go look that up. he did say it on radio. look it up in the georgia archieve if you do not believe me

Slick Willard

September 23rd, 2009
10:49 pm

Dawgstephen, have you always been this irrational or did you just spend the weekend in the drunk tank and wind up with a sore AH?

Coyote

September 23rd, 2009
11:00 pm

I’m not surprised but I’m disappointed. Been attending UGA games for 13 years and still have never seen this game in person because it will take me another 20-30 years, maybe longer, before this game will be included in my season ticket package. The problem with “tradition” is that it excludes more than half the fan base every year.

Yeah, I know there’s always scalpers but how many people are really going to plan a major road trip with their family without knowing they’ve got tickets in hand?

Plus, I wonder if Richt really wants the game to stay there since it means we’ll continue to play fewer home games than just about any major team in the country.

Slick Willard

September 23rd, 2009
11:15 pm

CFB fanatic, please get your facts straight. If you will check the attendance each year at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium, I believe you will see that it exceeds 85,000…………..not the 76,000 you claim.

AltamahaDawg

September 23rd, 2009
11:24 pm

The facts about the exact payouts are easily found. It’s late, I’m tired. Try the internet. As a matter of fact, I think the details were even in some article in the AJC just today. But it’s not even a disputed issue, the schools would lose money. In short half of slightly less every time is more than all of slightly more half the time.

One of the things I have always found funny about our agreement with the stadium is that we pay one dollar to rent the place for the game. Has to be some present considerations to make it a legal contract I guess.
And J-ville pays the total cost for all expenses to put on a game, an expence each school would suffer to stage thier own. J-ville also reimburses the travel expences, which each school would have to pay for each year.

They extended the runways at the Athens airport this past year. Flying direct now. Did not use to, will now. Larry wasn’t predicting the future. I don’t need to look it up.

BTW, “bottom line” is really a poor choice of words to qualify an opinion. That sort of defeats the purpose of calling something the “bottom line”.

AltamahaDawg

September 23rd, 2009
11:29 pm

76k is the G-Dome in fact.

AltamahaDawg

September 23rd, 2009
11:41 pm

And there isn’t a major program out there that would give up what UGA gets out of this game for one more home game every other year.

Denver Dog

September 24th, 2009
12:43 am

Every one is jealous of the Ga Fla game. It is fun and it is ours. Gatorzone, you are not so correct in your stats, but like they say “figures don’t lie, but liars can figure”. So we have a UGA guy starting at Detroit at QB, Rb at Denver, and 3 TE starting in the league, a number of lineman, in the pro bowl, and the best corner in the league. So we will see how young Matthew will do in the end. He did manage to beat the Mighty Gators while he was starting at UGA, and that is more than 95% of the teams that have played UF in the last 3 years have done.

As far as the game, it is great, I’ve been going for over 30 years, and I love to see the excitement around the game. The 70’s 80’s when we won everything, and now the last 2 decades the tables have turned. No doubt you guys have ruled the nest of late. The greatest games though have been those which had MNC implications. 1966 when we kept Spurrier from winning it as a QB, the 76 game when we got to play for the MNC, 68 when we got to play for the MNC, of course 8081 and 82, and 84 whe we kept UF from going undefeated, you guys were # 1 then, and of course 96 06 and 08.

Glad it is still in Jax, and hopefully, we can be competitive to you guys sometime in the future. We don’t even belong on the same field with you as best I can read what you say. Maybe we will get back up there some day. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Go dogs someday we will be as good as the Gators, until then, Go Dogs.

Urban Meyer

September 24th, 2009
12:55 am

I cannot believe that UGA agreed to play all the games in Florida. What a bunch of idiots!