What can be done about the Georgia defense?

Dogs can stop the run but look clueless in pass coverage. (Associated Press)

Dogs can stop the run but look clueless in pass coverage. (Associated Press)

First, there’s no point in calling for Willie Martinez to be fired. Even if Mark Richt were to conclude a change is in order, he’s not going to do it three games into the season. If the situation is the same at season’s end, that’s the time for a change.

Secondly, as awful as the Dogs looked on pass defense the past two games, they’ve been pretty good against the run, pretty good in the red zone and decent on third down.

Against South Carolina, they simply gave too much of a cushion on receivers, allowing the Gamecocks to dink and dunk their way down the field. Against Arkansas, the problem was bigger: susceptibility to the long ball. And what made it worse was that so much of the time the receiver was virtually uncovered.

Macon/Columbus beat writer David Hale has an extremely lengthy but insightful dissection of the Georgia defensive problems at Bulldogs Blog. Essentially what it boils down to is poor fundamentals in pass coverage and lack of pressure on the quarterback.

As I said the other night, even if Martinez calls the right scheme, if the players on the field don’t execute it properly, you’re sunk. So it’s not all on the coordinator.

But as my brothers pointed out while we were discussing all this yesterday, when players are repeatedly not getting into the right coverage or don’t seem to know whether they should be playing the run or the pass, that ultimately means they’re not very well coached. And that falls on Martinez.

Obviously, Martinez and his staff need to figure out:

1. Why can’t Georgia consistently mount an effective pass rush? More specifically, why couldn’t the Dogs’ defensive front get to a fairly traditional stationary passer like Ryan Mallett? If the linemen we’re playing aren’t capable of getting more pressure on opposing QBs, do the Dogs need to shake up their lineup?

2. Why are so many receivers going uncovered?

It’s been suggested that instead of going with a stop-the-run-first mentality, that Martinez needs to drop more players back into coverage. It was notable that late Saturday night when Georgia did just that, they not only frustrated Mallett but they got to him. Yes, they gave up more running yards in the fourth quarter, but not enough to matter that much.

As a fan, I don’t know what the answer is. But I assume that, at least in a theoretical sense, the Georgia coaching staff does.

Now they need to not only institute whatever changes are in order, but light a fire under some of our underperforming defenders. Or perhaps bench a few folks. Could relatively inexperienced but eager backups do any worse than what the Dogs are getting now?

171 comments Add your comment

GW

September 21st, 2009
2:03 pm

I’d like to see more blitzing if for no other reason the backs and tight ends may stay in to block rather than running wide open drag routes, flats and curls.

Robert

September 21st, 2009
2:06 pm

LSU at Georgia – Oct. 3 – CBS – 3:30

Gameday?

BlackSmoke

September 21st, 2009
2:10 pm

I have been pleased with our run defense and the way we are swarming to the ball…but the pass defense needs major help. You’re exactly right Bill, gave too much cushion to Garcia and SC, then got toasted on the long ball against Mallett and ARK. Bryan Evans got absolutely smoked. Have you heard anything about Cuff and his injury? We need all the bodies we can get to be healthy back there!

J Dub

September 21st, 2009
2:10 pm

Robert, I may be wrong but I think that ESPN is only doing gameday now for games that they televise or their sister station ABC. Not positive on that though.

M, Ramble On, St Simons, G&G

September 21st, 2009
2:14 pm

(((((((( 33 – 17 )))))))))))))
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

To answer your question, I think we could bring back Van Gorder.

WaycrossDawg

September 21st, 2009
2:15 pm

Enter your comments here
Willie Martinez and the Touchdown Factory

Chris

September 21st, 2009
2:17 pm

J Dub
That’s been the trend so far this year hasn’t it? If it’s true, then it stinks. I understand the tie in but they caught lightning in a bottle with that show when they first broadcast from the Notre Dame campus some 20 years ago. It was meant to be the the site of the clear best matchup of the week.

WaycrossDawg

September 21st, 2009
2:20 pm

Is our defense Willie this bad?

Doyouknowshon

September 21st, 2009
2:21 pm

Bryan Evans has the Keith Brooking Disease. The only thing you ever see is the back of his jersey…

Cuz

September 21st, 2009
2:25 pm

The answer is to get the electric bass back in the band and play “Dooley’s Junkyard Dawgs”.

Saint Simons

September 21st, 2009
2:27 pm

(((((((( 45 – 42 )))))) hahahahahahahahahahaha

CyberDawg

September 21st, 2009
2:28 pm

As we know there are a lot of CWM haters out there. It’s just disappointing that they are so quick to complain and always blame the coaches and not the players. I just wish we knew how each player graded out after a game. At least then we would know if it was really the coaches or more on the players. I’m sure it’s a little bit of both, but considering that CMR defends WM so much I’ve got to believe much of the fault is the player execution on the field and not necessarily WM.

WaycrossDawg

September 21st, 2009
2:31 pm

Earth to CyberDawg, come in . . .

JB

September 21st, 2009
2:35 pm

devans@sports.uga.edu I just did……it’s a start………

Cuz

September 21st, 2009
2:36 pm

My guess Cyberdawg is that it is a little of both, but I only played sandlot football, what do I know?

Hicks

September 21st, 2009
2:39 pm

Yes the DBs are giving too much cushion and when defending on a deep pattern they never look back for the ball. They never have a clue where the ball is.

True Bulldog Fan

September 21st, 2009
2:41 pm

I know this is a silly question, but could they use Logan Gray as a defensive back? What ever happened to AJ Harmon?

Cuz

September 21st, 2009
2:43 pm

Start Arron Murray now! Joe Cox will never complete more than 69% of his passes or throw for over five touchdowns per game.

Sorry, I could not help myself.

uuugh...

September 21st, 2009
2:46 pm

Defense was horrible last year. We were told it was all the injuries and gave the guy in charge of that horrible defense a raise. Now we have less injuries and the defense is worse than last year!

This is why you don’t give a guy doing a bad job a raise…because he’ll want to do even worse the following year to earn another raise!

D Tech-Fan!

September 21st, 2009
2:49 pm

24-10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO Oklahoma State!

Big Bad John

September 21st, 2009
2:50 pm

Does anyone know what happened to Cuff when he went down with the leg injury?

MtnDawg

September 21st, 2009
2:54 pm

Unless Aaron Murray is ready to play in a SEC game, in NO WAY should Logan Gray EVER step onto a defense or special teams field. I hold my breath every time L.G. returns punts–even though he is just going to fair catch. If he ever takes a hit because some hot-headed special teams player for the other team makes a bonehead move and hits him anyway, well, he is a sitting duck!!

Saint Simons

September 21st, 2009
2:54 pm

(((((1-7)))))Hahahahahahahahahaha

T Rav

September 21st, 2009
2:55 pm

Enter your comments here

filtar21

September 21st, 2009
2:55 pm

hey True Logan Gray dosent sound bad on the “D”, A.J. Harmon is a backup on teh O-line. I had the same idea last year put harmon at the center of a 3-4 with and put owens or weston on the other side and put a rush end opposite and let georgia put 4 backers on the field and use our speed with the blitz. We need cox back there but i wonder what next season will be like bc if murray starts we are gonna be starting over again and maybe waster a.j. greens junior but final season.

Michael Scharff

September 21st, 2009
2:56 pm

I think that playing against such a tall and strong-armed opposing QB as Mallett would give most defenses fits – time will tell for Petrino and AK. It also didn’t help that they have a 6′3″ receiver. We are sorely lacking in size and speed in our secondary. And I would imagine that Bryan Evans is a nice enough young man, but I just don’t think he has the skills to be a first team SEC defender.

T Rav

September 21st, 2009
2:56 pm

J Dub shouldn’t you be working? Anyway we have got to step it up on DEF. Let’s go dawgs. Also, I’d like to report that the real Saint Simons is missing…..

MrDan

September 21st, 2009
2:56 pm

TOO MANY PENALTIES!!!!!!
When Coach Richt said after last season there would be some changes, I presumed he meant fewer penalties. Seriously, I believe the coaches are doing the best they can, the kids are doing the best they can. Both I’m sure will agree there’s some work to be done. Joe Cox, you’re a winner in my book! Go Dawgs!

UGA student

September 21st, 2009
2:58 pm

Cuff has an MCL sprain and is day to day. According to Claude Felton

AC in Boulder

September 21st, 2009
2:58 pm

cuff only has sprained mcl and they list him as day to day. thought he was gone for sure, so that’s good news…

Dooley

September 21st, 2009
2:59 pm

CWM basically needs to dial up a few more blitzes, and not panic. Obviously, CMR is NOT going to fire him during the season. If we have so many good atheletes, blitzing more should only help. Getting beat on long touchdown looks a lot better if there is a jailhouse blitz going on.

Blackberry Cobbler

September 21st, 2009
3:00 pm

Cuz

September 21st, 2009
2:25 pm

The answer is to get the electric bass back in the band and play “Dooley’s Junkyard Dawgs”.

No there’s a good idea. That would excite the crowd for sure and hopefully light a fire under the defense. I DARE UGA to try this. They don’t have the balls.

Blackberry Cobbler

September 21st, 2009
3:00 pm

Cuz

September 21st, 2009
2:25 pm

The answer is to get the electric bass back in the band and play “Dooley’s Junkyard Dawgs”.

Now there’s a good idea. That would excite the crowd for sure and hopefully light a fire under the defense. I DARE UGA to try this. They don’t have the balls.

Dawggongood

September 21st, 2009
3:02 pm

Bring us Bud foster!!! That would solve our defensive problems

Dawg fan for life

September 21st, 2009
3:03 pm

Yeah are pass D is getting torched every game. Who is responsible for coaching the secondary? Thats right Willie!! So my answer to our D’s problem “Free Willie” let him go and let someone else take over until the end of the year. He has got to be the worst D cordinator UGA has ever had. I think that the play of the players reflects the coaching they are getting. As the D cordinator and more importantly secondary coach it’s Willie’s job to instruct them on how much space to give the receivers and how to play the ball when it’s in the air. There are some pee wee coaches that could coach better than Willie. I don’t think its to early to call for willie to be fired, this has been going on for longer than just the first 3 games. Mark Richt buy a clue fire Martinez now!!!!!!

lamar

September 21st, 2009
3:03 pm

Any IDIOT can see that the defense is in the wrong formation. HOW MANY TIMESA HAVE YOU SEEN GA LINE UP ON RECEIVERS WITH A PRESS COVERAGE?? NEVER!! They line up 15 yds off the receivers & ALL THE QB HAS TO DO IS PITCH & CATCH!! MARTINEZ IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF GARBAGE THAT EVER COACKED A DEFENSE! SINCE HE TOOK OVER GA HAS WENT DOWN HILL EVERY YEAR & THE SOONER HE IS KICKED TO THE CURB THE BETTER! HE IS A PATHETIC PIECE OF JUNK BUT DONT FORGET “” HE IS RICHTS BEST FRIEND”"! PATHETIC!!!!!

squat

September 21st, 2009
3:05 pm

33-17 hahahahaha….out of the top 25 hahahaha

Class of '98

September 21st, 2009
3:05 pm

YOUR BROTHERS pointed out to you that it is the coach’s responsibility to get the players in the right place at the right time?

Maybe one of them should be writing this blog.

EngrDawg

September 21st, 2009
3:06 pm

re:Robert

Gameday is going to be USC at Cal for Oct 3rd.
Personally I don’t want them to come back to Athens for a while..that was a disastrous showing last against Bama. Also, Don’t expect the Seiler’s to bring Uga on the set again.. not after Corso’s comment “thats an ugly dog! I”m picking Alabama!”

Dawggongood

September 21st, 2009
3:07 pm

Bring Bud Foster, I’m sure he would leave Va tech for the Dawgs!

AC

September 21st, 2009
3:08 pm

Sometimes I am ashamed to be a fan of UGA because of all the fans that overreact game in and game out. All I hear at games is that “Joe needs to go” or Willie “needs to be fired.” And if Richt doesn’t fire Willie, Richt needs to go. Yes, that is the answer. Get rid of one of the most succesful coaches in college football who runs a respected and classy football program.

Here are the facts.

Count’em, half of the points given up by the defense have been as a result of the defense having to play on a short field. Offenses are more aggressive and willing to take more chances. When offenses start deep in their terroritory, the defense does very well.

The defense has made plays when they needed too. Without the defense, we do not get back into both games we win.

We simply have had too many turnovers. Turnovers kill a defense.

Fact – We have a razor thin secondary with a lot of youth or inexperienced players. I think that Asher Allen’s early departure to the NFL will end up hurting UGA more than Stafford and Moreno. We do not have a physical corner. PERIOD.

Fact – Players have got to play. Yeah, I know that coaches have to coach them up, but it seems there are a lot of mistakes being made by the secondary.

Fact – We are not getting a pass rush. Which leads me to previous statement, players have got to play.

I think the defensive play calling has been conservative, but that may be by design because of the youth, inexperience and lack of play makers in the secondary. Hopefully, in a few weeks, that will change.

I am not by any means saying CWM does not need to go, I am just saying that it is not all his fault.

squat

September 21st, 2009
3:09 pm

corso is a idiot…he sux as much as lou..

EW

September 21st, 2009
3:11 pm

Saint Simons, what is GT ranked this week? Riiiiiggghhhtttt. Keep livin in the past, it’s so much less painful than reality.

Saint Simons

September 21st, 2009
3:11 pm

(((((( 33-17 )))))) boohooboohooboohooboohoo!!!!

FLA DAWG

September 21st, 2009
3:11 pm

Lighting a fire under players that are poorly coached causes more mistakes, points against us and penalties. Fix the problem first. If Richt had taken a clear look at the D problem last season and made the change then (as I and many others begged for) we wouldn’t have this mess right now.

I’m glad we’re 2 – 1 but we haven’t played anyone of caliber. I don’t even want to think about what UF is going to do to our D.

Dawg Props

September 21st, 2009
3:13 pm

In the offseason, Richt needs to fire martinez and offer Van Gorder huge money to coach the D back to where it should be. It may take $1-2 million, but UGA’s loaded with cash—money is no object! Martinez must go!

Will

September 21st, 2009
3:14 pm

I thought Marcus Washington and Sanders Commings would have much more of an impact on this defense. I was definitely wrong about that one. Sweet Willie barely plays them.

I also thought our CEO CMR would tell Coach Fabris to go stick his pooch kick-off scheme where the sun doesn’t shine. Again, dead wrong by me.

Finally, I thought we would be a better disciplined, less penalized unit. Boy am I a dumb-ass for thinking that. We are the NCAA version of the Oakland Raiders. Simply inexcusable.

But hey, were leading the SEC East at 2-0 and we control our own destiny to make it to Atlanta. So what more can you ask for?

Summit Dawg

September 21st, 2009
3:15 pm

Hey D Tech-Fan, why bring up Georgia/Oklahoma State score when you are still licking your wounds coming out of Miami????

FLA DAWG

September 21st, 2009
3:18 pm

MtnDawg,
I’ve been wondering the same thing. Why is Gray fielding punts? I keep waiting for some guy to absolutely cut him in half after a fair catch. He has great hands but is this all we’ll use him for?

EW

September 21st, 2009
3:19 pm

Just to follow up AC’s point

FACTS:
9 Arkansas possesions inside their own 40
5 punts
1 fumble
1 TD
1 FG
10 total points.

6 Arkansas possesions outside their own 40
1 punt
4 TDs
1 FG
31 total points

3 of these drives started after Ga TDs with the kickoffs going out of bounds or a big run back.
1 started after a fumbled punt return

carolina dawg

September 21st, 2009
3:20 pm

What if the d-lineman just aren’t good enough? Schemes, play calling and strategy try and accentuate what you have, but what if the best we have is what we’re seeing? Interior lineman are supposed to be good, but we’ve heard for two years how we’re just not getting the play out of the ends. I don’t think how we’re coaching them has changed, but talent could have. Mistakes in the secondary are magnified when you don’t get good pressure.

You take young corners combine them w/ average defensive ends (they do get some pressure, just not dominant) and this migh be what you get. Provides little room for error (turnovers by the offense).

Funny how our offense must be so good for scoring all those points and our defense must be so bad for letting USC and UA score all their points. We can certainly get better on defense, no question, but just like our O got better from week 1, some (not all) of the offensive plays against were just good offense on the other team’s part.

41 38 49 38 45 24 37 41

September 21st, 2009
3:20 pm

If CMR had a pair he would have fired Willie after the game Saturday night. Saban, Miles and Meyer wouldn’t put up with this crap and that’s why they win championships and CMR don’t. Just wait and see in a few weeks and the inbred nation will be realy screaming when offense bogs down against strong competition. Bank on it!

EW

September 21st, 2009
3:21 pm

And for the record we are giving up 100 to Florida unless Tebow gets Swine Flu

Dawgs 73

September 21st, 2009
3:21 pm

Bill, this issue is like expecting our government to make a smart, educated decisions….ain’t gonna happen. Willie is simply not good enough and has had several years/talent to prove his worth. If we are going to say “he can only coach the players and can’t tackle for them” then you are missing the point. A coach’s title is just that…coach. We are not asking Willie to put on pads and make tackles we are asking him to take the talent base he has been provided and “coach them up”. That means making your players understand your defensive scheme, putting them (the players) in the best possible position to make plays, buy into your “mantra/system”, and get the absolute most out every player.

Shankit

September 21st, 2009
3:24 pm

Blitz, Blitz, Blitz.
Kill the opposing quarterback on the first series
of downs. Put him on his arse every play, especially
the first series. He will be tippy toes the rest of the game.
Stunt, Stunt, Stunt.
Our defensive lineman never stunt or move around,
they just line up and get blocked.

Cajun Injector

September 21st, 2009
3:25 pm

“Bulldogs taste like CHICKEN……Bama-toilet paper that Tide can’t help!” Quoted: LSU’s Mike the Tiger, Sept.21, 2009

Ed

September 21st, 2009
3:32 pm

There appears to be little motivation and no consequences for terrible or undisciplined play. Reshad Jones’ inability to bump a Tech runner out of bounds on a long touchdown run last year apparently didn’t cost him a single play of time. One of our lineman made a stupid penalty in last year’s UF game (basically, a right cross to a Gator lineman’s face mask) that nullified an early interception. I don’t recall him getting benched. On another play in that game, Harvin took an option pitch from Tebow and trotted into the endzone untouched and unchallenged – obviously a huge blown assignment from a corner, DE, or linebacker, or some combo of the above. I don’t recall anyone sitting down after that. This has been the trend since the 4th and 10 blown coverage that lost the ‘05 Auburn game.

And the inability to pressure the qb is mystifying. Surely there is someone on Georgia’s roster – a scrappy transfer or walk-on, maybe a former blue-chip recruit that finds himself buried on the depth chart at his current position, or if all else fails, a tough kid from the freakin’ student body who’s willing to strap it on, pin his ears back, and get after the other team’s quarterback down after down (don’t laugh – Rudy got a sack on his only play from scrimmage).

You can talk about execution, discipline, etc. all you want, but the truth is that Georgia lacks a GATA mentality on defense. If that’s not a coaching issue, I don’t know what is. Remember, we have a roster full of players that were recruited by all the other conference and regional powers, including some that were recruited by the whole country. “The players aren’t executing” crap just doesn’t cut it any more.

That being said, kudos to Richt and Bobo for apparently taking the offense to a new level. I give them a pass for the Oklahoma State game – long road trip, sick quarterback playing on a very hot day, first game, etc. Unless the last two games are an aberration, I have to say that this is the most explosive offense UGA has had since the Zeir days. From the looks of things, they better not have many off-days this year.

hamburger lips

September 21st, 2009
3:33 pm

Problem at UGA as well is the recruiting coordinator. He cannot evaluate good talent and keep recruiting these hot dogs that want to play games on signing day. I get tired of this crap with the hat and jersey switching while loaded down with their thug bling. CMR needs to stop coddling players and get serious.

The next two weeks CMR needs to have CLOSED practices and NOT allow players to talk to the media. Players like Jeff Owens needs to quit making videos and doing silly blogs. It time to put up or shut up DAWGS!!! UGA nation deserves a much better product on the field. CMR will pi$$ the media off if he would take this approach but I’ll guarantee you he will get through to the players and coaches.

MoDawg

September 21st, 2009
3:37 pm

Shankit….good call on the stunt. You are right…our D-line lines up and charges straight at them. We don’t crossover or stunt and create blitzing lanes for our linebackers, at all. If we bring heat, it comes from the corner where it gets picked up by the running back, every time.

Good call!

WTF???

September 21st, 2009
3:37 pm

I have YET to see our defensive backs play press coverage. I have yet to see our defense stop an offense from throwing the ball all over the place. Hmmm, is there a correlation there? MARTINEZ SUCKS!!! BAD!!! FIRE HIM TODAY!!! We have WAY too much talent on defense to be giving up this many points. UT is going to beat us like a f-ing DRUM!!!

UGAKev {true dawg fan}

September 21st, 2009
3:40 pm

It just goes to show that it really was coaching on offense week 1 against Ok St when we only scored 10 pts. The playcalling that game was a joke except the first drive. But look at how great the offense was the past two games with BoBo changing his approach on offense and really just opening things up. I think the same thing can be done on defense atleast to improve it somewhat. One thing I really notice on defense is that when Willie Martinez blitzes, the other team seems to pick it up well and we never can get back to the QB in time. He has got to come up with ALOT better schemes. His schemes are really what bothers me more than anything. I look at how Van Gorder Blitzes and he always more times than not would get his defense to get to the Qb OR make the qb do something stupid.

Topp Dogg

September 21st, 2009
3:41 pm

Bud Foster would replace Soft Willie if the money were to be favorable enough

Donkeyfied

September 21st, 2009
3:42 pm

Someone call up Dr. Lou, Im sure he can fix our defense!!!!!!

LifelongDawg

September 21st, 2009
3:42 pm

I don’t think it’s ever the wrong time to get rid of someone for failing to do their job. I worked at a company that terminated one long-term employee on Christmas Eve, then followed that up by terminating another on Christmas Day. It may not have been politically correct, but they simply had to go. Same thing applies to Martinez. Give someone a battlefield promotion, but get him off the staff.

Palmetto State Dawg

September 21st, 2009
3:42 pm

Hey Saint Simons, Richt is 7-1 against you pathetic dorks! HAHAHA!!!!! Hilarious that you hang your hat on a 3 pt victory from last year. First one in, what 7 tries. That in itself speaks VOLUMES about your little football program at Tech. HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ashburn Dawg

September 21st, 2009
3:43 pm

Can someone please tell me why Bryan Evans has started for 8 years now? I have never seen him do anything other than chase defenders to the goal line. Why is he still in there? He is horrible!

Donkeyfied

September 21st, 2009
3:43 pm

Dr. Louuuuuuuuuu Dr Lou!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enter your comments here

LifelongDawg

September 21st, 2009
3:44 pm

This can’t continue. I’d rather give up 30+ points a game without Martinez than I would with him.

The 'Ole Ball Coach (aka The Evil "Genius")

September 21st, 2009
3:45 pm

Corso’s jealous, the wrinkly old Seminole bast#$%

I hate Georgia, but even I have to hand it to UGA. UGA scores more tail in 5 years than Corso has in a lifetime. And Lee has no business critiquing others’ looks…

I’ll say this for Georgia – even though I can’t beat them anymore, I appreciate the fact that they showed I can still teach kids to pitch ‘n catch a little. How many yards we get on Sept. 12 – 500?

When your career is in the toilet like mine, you’ll dish out the needling wherever you can.

Shankit

September 21st, 2009
3:47 pm

ARkansas Gazette
“Coach Petrino can coach offense but doesn’t know crap about defense..”
“Petrino needs to fire defensive coordinator.”
“Hawgs a young team, but plenty of experience except on defense.”

SOUND FAMILIAR?

GaCracker

September 21st, 2009
3:48 pm

Simple fix: Multiple blitz schemes; press receiver (right up in his face at the line of scrimmage) man to man coverage. The scree pass has not hurt us! And I’d as soon have “Water Girl” coach the D as Unslick Willie!

hamburger lips

September 21st, 2009
3:48 pm

Clemson got rid of Tommy B. last year 3 or 4 games into the season and seems to be turning things around. So surley UGA can show Willie the door. WHY not?

GaCracker

September 21st, 2009
3:51 pm

May the ghost of Erk Russell haunt Willie Martinez and Mark Richt! Remember the “wide tackle 6′?

Palmetto State Dawg

September 21st, 2009
3:52 pm

Hey Saint Simons, Richt is 7-1 against you pathetic dorks! HAHAHA!!!!! Hilarious that you hang your hat on a 3 pt victory from last year. First one in, what 7 tries. That in itself speaks VOLUMES about your little football program at Tech. HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous 'Cos

September 21st, 2009
3:54 pm

Hello Dawg Nation…
Just wanted to chime in with a question/thought that it seems we are overlooking with respect to Willie Martinez. I, too am getting a bit ansy watching CWM and his defensive schemes, as well as our overall defensive attempts game-in-game-out. I, too would like to see us get back to the defense UGA SHOULD have being a top-tier program. However, i MUST ask the following…
Our recruiting this year has targeted mostly defensive players, and some fine good ones to be honest. Do we lose their commitments if we get rid of Martinez? I mean, if a change is in order, i support it. But at what cost?! In my opinion, it seems as if we might lose recruits this year, yet if we can get a respected DC in here to replace CWM, then we might recruit again well next year…or two. What do you think? Would this hinder our recruiting efforts and/or commitments for next year and beyond? Regardless…i love my Dawgs. Bring on Arizona State.

Joey Joe Joe Shabadoo Jr.

September 21st, 2009
3:54 pm

We need pressure on the QB period! Give Montez Robinson a shot! Bryan Evans looks clueless in pass coverage. Isn’t he a Sr?

JB

September 21st, 2009
3:54 pm

we are way to easy to prepare for , for the opposing OC. We need to mix some things up. I know we are big on assignment football, cause our run D does a pretty good job. When we play someone who can fling it around , we are in trouble. Watch how little success Garcia has passing when he plays a strong defensive team. he looked like Pat Sullivan against us. ( sorry, great Qb at Auburn awhile back for all you young guys). Giving up 35-45 points a week calls for something new. Hell, we haven’t played anybody real good yet.

AdMan

September 21st, 2009
3:55 pm

Hamburger lips…..you are are pathetic….. you don’t have any idea what you are talking about….we recruit the same players that every other school does including Florida…they seem to be doing alright don’t they?Players need to be held accountable on and off the field. If you want results limit their playing time…thats where it will hurt them the most. Our scheme on defense will never work if the players don’t execute and thats the coaches job. CMR needs to hold every coach on his staff accountable for the results of the teams play. Now is not the time to start pointing fingers and calling people out. Let the season play out….if the play on the field continues to stink then changes will be made at the end of the season….I guarantee CMR will get rid of coaches who do not perform because if he doesn’t his boss won’t keep him around long.No team in the SEC is perfect…just look at Florida…their offense right now is pathetic….they are a one man team. If Tebow goes down they will lose.If you watched their game against Tenn….Tebow was a one man team..if Tenn had any offense at all Florida would have been in trouble. So relax this might be the most fun football season you’ve ever seen.

Thunderlips

September 21st, 2009
3:58 pm

Doesn’t a company fire its employees is they continue to underperform? That’s what Willie is doing! Someone needs to teach these guys how to rush the passer! Go Fabris needs to quit and enter the Betty Ford clinic for aenorexic coaches.

reebok

September 21st, 2009
4:00 pm

Tech fan here…your offense is doing enough to win, and your team sure looks like it is starting to believe in itself…your Dogs should flatten Azzy State, and the LSU game will be one to kick back & enjoy…good luck, avoid the injuries, and we’ll see you on the Flats in November!

the glass is half fulll

September 21st, 2009
4:06 pm

the problem is that we have underclassmen playing in key positions in the secondary. they are still out there in la la land. who else is going to play?

we went from a bunch of overhyped ego players who were auditioning for the nfl (asher allen, etc.,) masters of the deion sanders tackling tecnique, to a bunch of freshmen and sophs. and now, the georgia faithful want them to behave as if they are all-conference players…..right out of the chute….and if they don’t well…fire all the coaches.

everyone needs to chill out. two years ago vs. hawaii, willie didn’t have any problems on defense.
BVG was long gone, and we seemed to be tough enough. the d is swarming like it hasn’t in quite a while and the d backs are laying the wood on people.

did anyone not notice the difficulty of some of those catches the arkansas recievers were making – one td was a fingertip grab…..an NFL play…and yet our d-backs are supposed to stop that?

when we needed to, we got to mallett.

if we would quit turning the ball over, things would be different…….

you all may think i am crazy, but i believe we are on the verge of becoming the next dominant program in college football.

we have a quarterback that isn’t quite “the man” that you would want, but if he manages the games and makes the throws, the cast of characters surrounding him makes him look like joe friggin montana…….

if they could stop fumbling the ball, and make a few special teams plays….things would be much different.

when and if that happens, all you dummies will be back on the bandwagon.

look for another tough game vs. the devil this week….no practice outside due to the rain.

GaCracker

September 21st, 2009
4:11 pm

The A.D. or Adams can go right over Richt’s head and fire Willie. Do they have the gonads to do it?

Sanford Drive

September 21st, 2009
4:15 pm

is your glass half-full of crack and pipe dreams?

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

September 21st, 2009
4:16 pm

There is hope that Coach Martinez will find a way to improve the schemes he has been running but I’m not holding my breath. The offense and special teams could help the defense by KICKING THE BALL DEEP ON KICKOFFS and not turning the ball over on our side of the field especially early in the game which gives the other guys confidence and momentum. But I’m afraid the die is cast for this year. We can hope for a change after the season but it is apparently CMR’s decision unless Willie decides to quit and I don’t think CMR will fire Willie. But we can hope. Actually when it comes down to it, the defense has done what they had to(in the 4th qtr) to get the win.

DamnGoodDawg

September 21st, 2009
4:21 pm

It’s just possible that the DL and DB’s aren’t that good…just a thought.

HH

September 21st, 2009
4:24 pm

Surely, King, you can figure out what needs to be done!!!!!!!

DawgFan4Life

September 21st, 2009
4:26 pm

First of all the answer to the QB pressure they need to do more stunts. The front seven need to more around more mess with the other teams offinsive line head make them think more instead of just coming straing head up on them. The front four needs to stunt more. i mean pinch down more or crossing. Also the DE’s need to get more physical. They need to get there hands on the lines and just man handle them. They need to watch the NEW YORK GIANTS DE’s and see how they get down.

Far as the secondary they need to just take care of there own responsibilies before they help the next guy. Plus it would help if we had some more high at corner. The speed is there but what good is speed if you are like 5 foot 8-11 inches tall going against a WR that is 6 feet and taller. Corners must be able to jump as well as cover.

Lastly we need Brian Van Gorger back and a desent secondary coach. I mean someone who is going to whole a person accountable for there mess up. Like the Gators did durning the off-season before the 08 season I dont know how true that was about a push up for every yard Moreno got on them the year before. I tell you if that was me I would have been just like them out for blood.

ovadatop34

September 21st, 2009
4:28 pm

I’d like to see us play more man so that it is skill on skill and not scheme on scheme. I feel like the young guys can cover but they are not quite there on responsibilities yet.

DawgFan4Life

September 21st, 2009
4:30 pm

so true ovadatop34

GGTOG&THWGT

September 21st, 2009
4:39 pm

(don’t laugh – Rudy got a sack on his only play from scrimmage).
Ed- This comment is of no use in reality. Rudy was playing against GA TECH!

DawgNation

September 21st, 2009
4:44 pm

Reebok,

One of the only intelligent Tech fans I’ve seen here. Thanks for not spitting out the usual BS. I to hope Tech rebounds as I want the highest ranked Tech team to play against in Nov. Good luck with North Carolinian Saturday. I’ll be watching from my tailgating at Sanford Stadium. (Yes I have plenty of garbage bags)

Cuz

September 21st, 2009
4:52 pm

For God’s sake people. BVG is gone and is not coming back. Just leave him out of the equation.

Now back to our “Fire Willie” commentary.

Denver Dog

September 21st, 2009
4:52 pm

Bring back richard Bell, or Bill Lewis, or Marion Campbell.

How about if we just played run defense and went to a soft zone. People forget that Erk made his killing that way. It is alot more complicated than that, but if we mixed up the stunts, like wed did in the 4th quarter last week, we may find that we can pull off a victory or two on the defensive side. Mike Ditka said today, talking about the NO Saints “If you give me an offense that scores 35 points a game, I’m not worried about the defense”. He is a defensive minded coach. Maybe we have all been thinking that our offense is too predictable, maybe it is our defense. We know that Ark practiced spring and summer for this game. We beat them. That is the best passer we will see all year. If you don’t think that these kids are trying and playing thier hearts out, you need to look at yourself in the mirror. The schemes seem to be easy to read and pick apart by the other coaches and QB. If you think it is just a coach think again. Maybe we need to “free Willy” let’s see how the year goes on. If replacement is needed, it will not be because we want it to happen, but becuase he is not getting the job done. Right now, he is not. Let’s support the team and the staff through the year, because nothing is going to happen until the year is over. GO DOGS

Sherlock Holmes

September 21st, 2009
4:57 pm

If CMR is not willing to join the lynch mob,the least he could do is bring in some fresh eyes and attitude to his staff to help stop the bleeding.Anybody got John Gruddens ear.

Go dawgs

September 21st, 2009
5:05 pm

Players have to play period! – You guys can blame the coach all you want and yes sometimes he may call the wrong scheme or have the players in the wrong lineup at the wrong time – but as a college player you have to adjust and be “football smart” –

Does anyone remember Atkins and Owens running off at the mouth how good they were going to be? – I do and it seems their bark is bigger than their bite –

It does not appear that anyone on the defense is hungry and wants to stand out and that is what it comes down too – and yes CWM is the dc and db coach but these guys have been playing football their whole life and should understand a zone coverage from a man coverage – I do not believe it is the coaches fault when a receiver from the other team is 15 yards open –

Also, on some plays our corners were in position it is just that Mallet threw the ball where it needed to be and the receivers for AR made some outstanding catches – a db can only cover a receiver so long –

the dline and ends need to get a pass rush going and back up their big mouth.

RedMan

September 21st, 2009
5:06 pm

It’s supposed to rain like this through the weekend. The game will probably look like scenes from “Leatherheads”.

DawgNation

September 21st, 2009
5:07 pm

Bill,

You are correct in that CMR will not change anything on the coaching staff three games into the season. I would however like to hear from him that he does see the failures and he will be addressing them. You can not keep on giving up 400 to 500 passing yards a game and 30 to40 points in this conference and expect to win very many. As some have pointed out CWM is not to blame for all the defensives called due to poor execution by the players but he is responsible for coaching these players to not make those mistakes in coverage and to correct how to play a position. He has not done that in the time I’ve have seen him. I don’t know if he does not know how to make adjustments during a game or his scheme does not allow for it except during halftime, but CMR needs to get someone in as an Assistant DC to help with adjustments and to take over the coaching of DB’s. On special teams I don’t know why CMR allows the directional kick still as this has caused more stress on the defenses as much as the turnovers have. No imagination on the schemes for the D-line as well. The big guys up front have done well on the middle ground attack but nothing on the pass rush. Also if Georgia can kick a 50+ yard field goal there is no reason they can not kick it deep or through the end zone. Baffling to say the least. On offence not much to complain about though some here has. I was glad to see Joe measure up to his abilities and show he does deserve to be in the SEC. I’m happy that Georgia is on to of the SEC east right now at 2-0 but see a very hard road coming up fast. Hope CMR takes a hard look at his staff and his team and insists on better execution from both his coach’s and players. Can’t wait for Arizona State. Go Dawgs!!!

DawgNation

September 21st, 2009
5:09 pm

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shane#1

September 21st, 2009
5:16 pm

Denver Dog, UGA played a soft zone against South Carolina and SOS took advantage of it with that huge tight end they have. People were ready to lynch Willie for that, he came out of the soft zone against Arky and got killed by their simple crossing pattern. So as long as you don’t have any pressure on the QB it is a matter of choosing your poison as a DC. Richt discussed QB pressure from the DEs repeatably in the summer and yet nothing has changed,. This leads me to believe that the Dawgs just don’t have the horses at DE. Once Houston gets his sea legs things may improve, but with Battle out I doubt it. When UGA gets some LBs back from injury Washington could help some after switching back to DE. The problem I see with the line is that all of UGAs DEs were recruited as LBs and are somewhat undersized for their posistion. I would have prefered that the Dogs had switched to the 3-4 in the off season to take advantage of their depth at LB and DT, but it’s too late for that now. We can just hope that the O and special teams will cut down on turnovers and give the D a hand. I don’t think you can win in the SEC and have almost 3 turnovers per game.

Cajun Injector

September 21st, 2009
5:17 pm

All you PUPPIES—pass the salt. All you armchair QB’s, better check your springs, they sound loose to me. Geaux Tigers

Sherlock Holmes

September 21st, 2009
5:19 pm

Furlough Willie for ASU and see if the bleeding stops.

GT Nerds Are a Joke

September 21st, 2009
5:40 pm

I’d really like to see UGA get a defensive guy like Miami has (John Lovett??) who can coach players to get after the QB & RBs. Did you see what the Miami defense did to the Jacquettes? Made them look like the puzzies that they are!! You have to pressure the QB & knock the pi$$ out of any RB who even looks like he is going to get the ball. UGA’s defense has the players, no question about that. It’s too bad that they’re being coached by a total retard with a show size IQ.

SlimG

September 21st, 2009
5:42 pm

This 2 deep zone is always prone to the deep fly on each corner. The Vols killed us with those passes under Cutcliffe and any good O.C. knows that weakness. The Hogs QB made some nice throws and that WR is a baller, but to me the problems lies in adjustments. The base defense is fine, but have a few wrinkles would u. O.C. must love to see the dawgs on the schedule. Our offense must score tons of points for us to be in the game. See Alabama game last year.

Get dreaming if you think Van Gorder is coming back. Falcons need him more, and look how there defense continues to improve. Would love to see some improvements from our dawgs. Sic’Um.

gomdawg

September 21st, 2009
5:44 pm

I DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU FANS YOU ARE NOT HAPPEN WITH NOTHING A WIN IS A WIN AT THE END OF THE SEASON MOST OF YOU WILL EAT YOUR WORDS. IT EASN’T TWO WEEKS A GO YA’LL WANTED TO BENCH COX GIVEN TIME NOW WE HAVE A GREAT QB. GIVE THIS DEFENSE A GAME OR TWO THEY WILL GET BETTER.
DAWG FAN LOVE MY DAWGS

gomdawg

September 21st, 2009
5:48 pm

CMR DON’T HAVE TO GO FAR TO FIND A DC JUST LOOK ON THIS BLOG SEEMS TO BE PLENTY COUCH COACHES

Bushwacker

September 21st, 2009
5:49 pm

All these people wanting to get rid of Coach Martinez are exposing thier lack of football knowledge or they are new fans to the program.

It’s not the coaching!!!

We simply do not have the star athletes on defense that we did for so long.
There are no nfl players on the team , much less all pro players like we got spoiled having year after year under Donnan and Richt’s first 4 or 5 years.

How many defensive players from last years team got drafted, maybe one.

Its talent, not coaching

icedawg

September 21st, 2009
5:52 pm

Frank Lane

September 21st, 2009
5:58 pm

To add to AC’s comments. Two keys. Field Position and CONFUSION. 1) make the opposition go a long way. We don’t from turnovers, kick returns and out of bounds kickoffs. The kickoff team shares the blame. 2) CONFUSE the offense. Take away what they do best. Tall quarterback, strong arm, tall fast receivers, he can’t run, so Take away the pass first with heavy blitzes. Make Arkansas run. We stop the run which they can’t do anyway and let them pass like they want to. That part is ineffective coaching.

DOWN SOUTH DAWG

September 21st, 2009
6:00 pm

—GO JOE-GO JOE-GO JOE — ! ! ! JOE’S ALWAYS BEEN A WINNER —

—YE of SO LITTLE FAITH — !

—GO JOE—!

savanadawg

September 21st, 2009
6:01 pm

We can’t start here. Lets go back to when Mark Richt was hired. It was in the slap dab middle of recruiting and he had to hang on to Rodney Garner. He put himself in a “I owe you If you stay” situation. Brian Van Gorder left for a reason, that reason has never been discussed. But, my thought is that I believe Brian Van Gorder was not given free rain over some of his position coaches and his philosophy and CMRs philosophy just went in different directions. Van Gorder left at an awkward time to allow UGA to get a top notch DC. So CMR promoted CWM to the position. So now you’ve got a former position coach as the UGA DC. And he is either affraid to put the hammer down on his coaches or he just can’t do it, he doesn’t know how!!! Either way all this falls back to Coach Richt. Hell, who knows maybe he could be a great DC. Maybe he is not allowed to sweep the rug off (so to speak).

savanadawg

September 21st, 2009
6:04 pm

Ooops. Forgot. I mean doesn’t our Defensive Philosophy start on the line of scrimmage?????????

Patrick

September 21st, 2009
6:04 pm

Bushwacker, it’s hard to believe that you actually typed and posted such nonsense. If you were watching the same game then please explain why the UGA defenders were not even on the TV screen when Mallet completed his passes to WIDE OPEN receivers. There’s no excuse for that especially given the fact that Ark is a passing team. It’s not the talent. It’s the coaching.

77DAWG

September 21st, 2009
6:05 pm

One of our priority is to beat UF. Sound impossible now. Unless they take Willy and a few bucks. If we are using Will as a yard stick, anybody can coach D at UGA. CMR is poking around til Stafford and Morino gone with out championship. He still is doing now too until Cox, Green, Brown, and co gone. During the game I spot Willy send a dry smile to CMR while ran pass by him. I afraid CMR would jump and kiss Willy said ” it’s OK buddy, we will sink together”. We got all the great kids now and they will make us look good anyhow.

chazzo

September 21st, 2009
6:09 pm

Shane#1,

Excellent points. I think you hit the nail on the head: “The problem I see with the line is that all of UGAs DEs were recruited as LBs and are somewhat undersized for their position.”

Quite frankly, I have wondered, based on some comments Fabris made, if this wasn’t an ill-conceived plan to defense the spread, sacrificing bulk for speed. Does anyone else remember him saying that D-linemen don’t necessarily have to be big because it is a game of balance?

I still see some bright spots on the D, and I am glad that BK pointed out some plusses. I am looking forward to seeing how SC and Ark do this week. I think it will be very telling.

I see the dawgs getting a little better each week on both sides of the ball. Is “Q” coming back?

savanadawg

September 21st, 2009
6:09 pm

By the way. WHAT EXACTLEY IS “THE GEORGIA WAY” of doing things. It should be to win football games I suppose.

DeputtyDawg

September 21st, 2009
6:09 pm

gomdawg, PLEASE STOP YELLING. There is a ‘Caps Lock’ key on your keyboard – use it!!!

TybeeDawg

September 21st, 2009
6:10 pm

Why do we always set up for the return on a punt…even when Logan Gray is back there for a fair catch we have 2 guys out on the wings covering the gunners instead of goigng for the block. If you are going to fair catch, everyone should be going for the block…anyone notice this?

Scout Dawg

September 21st, 2009
6:11 pm

Reebok, thanks for your post. It is nice to not have to read some of the inane, hateful vitriol oftentimes found on these blogs, from both sides. You are welcome anytime here my friend.

southgadawg88

September 21st, 2009
6:21 pm

The problem with the D is something I have been saying since last year…without an elite pass rusher this pass defense will suffer every time we play a team with big WR and a strong arm QB.The corners are too small…period….you take a 5-8 guy and put him on a 6-3 or better guy the little guy will NOT be able to defend a well thrown ball.IMO the age of little corners are over…sure there are exceptional little guys out there that can get it done but they are the exception not the rule.The best on ball defenders we have right now would be Boykin and Smith and they are both smallish themselves…neither has much experience as a fulltime corner so both will make some coverage mistakes as they learn..they do have the athletic ability to fight bigger guys for the ball though but we must upgrade for more size at corner.I’ve been telling folks look at ALA,LSU even Tenn they started going after 6 ft or better corners 2 years ago and now we are behind.The scheme depends on a strong pass rush which we all know has not materialized yet.DE recruitment has been poor the last few seasons as well.C.Washington looks like a player though…give him some time and he and Houston could be effective as a duo…lord help us if we suffer an injury at the position.Busted coverages with wide open WR’s are not to be excused!!I put that on Willie no doubt…but there are too many times where the defenders are there but can’t make a play on the ball.We are left with Jones and Evans looking to make big hits all the time to at least try to intimidate but that’s not going to work enough to have an impact.Watch the games…the kids come up and bump at the LOS but are mostly brushed off by bigger WR and now they are open…play off them and we give up too much cushion and get burned by that..I don’t know what can be done honestly without more pressure.Maybe we can play a safety in nickel instead of a CB..One bright spot here is we have already played all the passing teams on the schedule…every one else is more run oriented than pass so things should settle down.The flip side of this is to look at OUR WR’s…size and speed at our WR’s creates mismatches they WE exploit…like I said I say the little man’s day at CB

Monticello Dawg

September 21st, 2009
6:22 pm

To those who think Willie is the worst DC UGA has ever had, you must be too young to remember Kevin Ramsey.

FRED

September 21st, 2009
6:23 pm

DID SOMEONE SAY WERE IS THE PASS RUSH. WELL IT’S THE SAME PLACE IT WAS LAST YEAR IT’S NON-EXISTENCE THE GAME HAS PASSED WILLIE BUY. IT TRULY IS TIME FOR WILLIE TO EITHER RETIRE OR GO TO A SMALL COLLEGE SOMEWARE IN THE MIDWEST. WILLIE IS JUST NOT A BIG TIME COACH. AND THE SOONER WE ALL AGREE ON THAT THE BETTER.

GTDog

September 21st, 2009
6:27 pm

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS? This defense is TERRIBLE! We have to FIRE the DC NOW!!! Don’t even wait until the end of the season!!

Just look at these numbers:

1. 5 (yes FIVE) times giving up over 30 points!
2. 2 (yes TWO) times giving up more than FORTY POINTS!
3. Over the past 13 games giving up more than 12 points per game MORE than the
previous season!
4. More 30+ point defensive efforts in the past year than any other year in memory!
5. A great offense, but the D is keeping us from winning it all.

The fact that the DC is working in youthful/inexperienced players in the secondary is NO EXCUSE! The fact that he has coached some pretty good defenses at this school in the past is NO EXCUSE! He must go……we have to…

…fire CHARLIE STRONG, DC, UF 2007.

I’m nervous about the defensive play at times this year, but it’s a little too early to get hysterical and moaning about how “terrible” things are on defense. The D is making in-gane adjustments better than they have in recent years. The effort of the players is off the charts. Young players are getting needed experience. The O and ST are hurting the D stats SOME. All in all, I’m not satisfied with the performance on the defensive side of the ball thus far. And I believe that we have to do better. But I also know that it’s not realistic to compare WM to Van Gorder. There’s not a DC in college football today who is as good as the man we were so very fortunate to have running the show from 2001-2005.

Patience….that 2007 UF defense grew up, and I believe that the UGA defense will also improve.

southgadawg88

September 21st, 2009
6:33 pm

The problem with the D is something I have been saying since last year…without an elite pass rusher this pass defense will suffer every time we play a team with big WR and a strong arm QB.The corners are too small…period….you take a 5-8 guy and put him on a 6-3 or better guy the little guy will NOT be able to defend a well thrown ball.IMO the age of little corners are over…sure there are exceptional little guys out there that can get it done but they are the exception not the rule.The best on ball defenders we have right now would be Boykin and Smith and they are both smallish themselves…neither has much experience as a fulltime corner so both will make some coverage mistakes as they learn..they do have the athletic ability to fight bigger guys for the ball though but we must upgrade for more size at corner.I’ve been telling folks look at ALA,LSU even Tenn they started going after 6 ft or better corners 2 years ago and now we are behind.The scheme depends on a strong pass rush which we all know has not materialized yet.DE recruitment has been poor the last few seasons as well.C.Washington looks like a player though…give him some time and he and Houston could be effective as a duo…lord help us if we suffer an injury at the position.Busted coverages with wide open WR’s are not to be excused!!I put that on Willie no doubt…but there are too many times where the defenders are there but can’t make a play on the ball.We are left with Jones and Evans looking to make big hits all the time to at least try to intimidate but that’s not going to work enough to have an impact.Watch the games…the kids come up and bump at the LOS but are mostly brushed off by bigger WR and now they are open…play off them and we give up too much cushion and get burned by that..I don’t know what can be done honestly without more pressure.Maybe we can play a safety in nickel instead of a CB..One bright spot here is we have already played all the passing teams on the schedule…every one else is more run oriented than pass so things should settle down.The flip side of this is to look at OUR WR’s…size and speed at our WR’s creates mismatches that WE exploit…like I said the little man’s day at CB is drawing to a close…you got 6-5 6-8 280LB TE’s out here running routes on 6 ft and under CB’s and LB’s?Not much is going to change in that picture.Lemon,Longo,Ball even Toby Jackson(I include him because we were counting on this kid for TWO STRAIGHT years to be our next star DE)We have been coming up short in recruiting DE’s for a while now.I know….fire Willie!!!…more to it than that.

DeputtyDawg

September 21st, 2009
6:36 pm

southgadawg88, did you happen to notice UT’s defense against UF? That was some gooooood defense and the reason that UF didn’t put up 50+ points as some folks suggested before the game was played. I agree with the things that you pointed out and yes, our CBs are quick but not tall enough to defend a good QB – WR combo. Time will tell but this UGA defense has some serious problems. Florida will absolutely abuse UGA this year unless there is a marked improvement in the pass defense. As long as Willie is at UGA there will be no improvement in the defense. Too bad.

newguy

September 21st, 2009
6:42 pm

Maybe we should go ahead and load up on the line and put more pressure on the QB, since our backfield is getting burnt anyway. A three man pass-rush seems like it’s not working. play with the QB’s mind and he will make bad decisions.

savanadawg

September 21st, 2009
6:48 pm

I think Owens is still suffering from the knee. He doesn’t run as well as he did. He didn’t rehab properly and he is way over weight. He more than any other player needs to back up his words, get in the fight, and start making things happen.

savanadawg

September 21st, 2009
6:51 pm

When is the last time we actually confused a QB?? I can’t remember. Damn!

mdawg

September 21st, 2009
6:58 pm

just a couple questions….

1. when is georgia going to have some defensive back with some height?
prince miller and boykin and evans are good. but lets face it. they are to short to cover a 6′3 or a 6′4 receiver when they are 5′10. thats a mismatch no matter how well you execute…. that is CWM fault.
2. dont we have someone else with some height? cant we put one of our tall receivers in a CB and move boykin and prince miller somewhere more suitable?
3. against south carloina i heard that they played soft because they were tired… well does it make a difference in how tired you are if you run a stunt or a corner blitz rather than the zone that they ran? sorry but being tired should not determine your play calling.. you should play every play at 100% no matter what play is called.

fire CWM

savanadawg

September 21st, 2009
7:01 pm

Geez. I don’t have anything better to do so here I go again. All this stuff is fun. This bantering. But seriously we have got to do a better job of recruiting the line of scrimmage players. I really thought our O-line was supposed to be GREAT! and our D-line Awsome. WE AIN’T EVEN CLOSE!!!! I’m not saying we can’t get their, But I havn’t really seen that much improvement each week. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY IDEA HOW GOOD WE CAN BE?????? If these guys in the treanches decide they’ve had enough mediocrity WE ARE GOING TO KILL PEOPLE.

Dorsey Hill

September 21st, 2009
7:09 pm

The answer is right there in your write up. When we drop people into coverage the other team’s QB struggles. We know that. The next question is: when can you afford to drop people in coverage? In two different scenarios: 1) when you have a sizable lead and the other team must throw to catch up and running will cost too much clock and 2) when you have an advantage in down and distance so that a first down is a low percentage via the run.

Now what did we see Sat. night? We got killed on 1st and second down when we were playing man coverage and had to protect the box against the run. Arky’s 3rd down percentange was very low. When we played man we played it badly. Evans scorched again, the freshman got beat deep and so did Boykin, all in man coverage.

Also note that when we were ahead by two scores and Arky HAD to throw all of a sudden we had pressure and the QB looked flustered because we had the passing lanes clogged up.

The lesson in all of this is that:

1) we aren’t recruiting well, or

2) we aren’t developing talent well, and

3) we need to quit the stupid turnovers.

4) Its not schematic. It is poor performance, but the offense and PR are not helping with the turnovers.

With Butler punting and Cox and crew lighting up the scoreboard, if we can just not make so many stupid early turnovers I think that magically the defense will look a lot better.

We need to get early leads, control field position and make the other team earn what they get. Our front seven is pretty good, but our DB’s are terrible right now and we can’t make it that easy on the other team. If we are as good on offense in teh first quarter in the next game as we were in the last 3 Sat. night, the defense will all of a sudden look like a good unit.

DeputtyDawg

September 21st, 2009
7:15 pm

Amen, savanadawg. There is a lack of fire in the UGA team. Hey, watch Miami play ball and you’ll see some fire and a genuine desire to get to the qb & backfield. Now I’m not suggesting that the UGA defense has that much speed but if there was a REAL defensive coach for the Dawgs then at LEAST there would be some different looks on each play. Willie does the same crap every play and expects a different result. Remember Albert Eienstein’s definition of insanity? Yup….that’s Willie.

dawgone

September 21st, 2009
7:16 pm

Why not try something like Dowtin at DE. It worked well when we put Marcus Howard there. He seems to be doing alright on Sunday also. I would try anything at this point to get a pass rush. Where are all these DE’s we are signing every year. Either we can’t coach them or we can’t evaluate talent.

T'ville Dawg

September 21st, 2009
7:17 pm

Upside and there is always an upside, we’ve got one heck of a punter, Butler’s a boomer like Kilgo was.

big dawg 89

September 21st, 2009
7:44 pm

all i heard last week is that we HAD to get pressure on the QB. well, rushing 3 or 4 guys obviously isn’t getting it done. and if you can’t pressure the QB, well, you better be able to cover somebody. and if you can’t do either, you’re screwed. and here’s the thing, MARTINEZ IS THE DB’s COACH…and then there’s the kick-off problem, heck, i just assume try an onside kick if the other team is going to start at mid-field everytime…

all that being said, i know that playing the perfect game is very improbable, but i sure would like to see one of these three areas improve…

Lost Dawg

September 21st, 2009
7:58 pm

CMW was a good secondary coach until he became defensive coordinator. Now, he’s doing a half ass job at both. It seems to me that he can’t handle the duty of both jobs. CMW needs one of his former players as a grad assistant to coach the defensive backs.

Patrick

September 21st, 2009
8:04 pm

big dawg 89, you will see no improvement until Willie parts ways with UGA. The Dawgs won Saturday night in spite of the coaches. Joe Cox cannot and will not continue to throw 5 TDs per game and that’s what it seems that UGA needs to win. Defense wins championships and CWM’s defense is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Plenty of quality players on both sides of the ball but sort of like Spurrier commented several years ago, “Georgia recruits a lot a great players but I don’t know what happens to them.” There you go. It’s a lack of coaching and if Richt doesn’t make some changes then he will soon follow Fulmer’s path – dismissed. Fulmer was a good coach but like Richt refused to jettison his underperforming coaching staff. There is a point where sanity trumps loyalty or friendship and it seems that we have reached that point. Fire Martinez and Bobo.

tony

September 21st, 2009
9:21 pm

Mark Richt should have replace Martinez after we lost to West Virginia in the 2005 Sugar Bowl. It’s obvious that Mark Richt doesn’t care how poorly our defense is performing and the outrage coming from the fans concernining Martinez lackluster way of coaching our talentive kids.

If anybody believe that Martinez isn’t to blame for our defense lackluster performance each week need to have their heads examine. I saw how poorly our kids started performing under Martinez half way through the 2004 season. There is a big different between Martinez and VanGorder in the way they coach. It’s too bad that we don’t have a no nonsense type of head coach. It’s really sad.

David Johnson

September 21st, 2009
9:33 pm

Please Fire Willie Martinez………..He doesn’t know what he is doing……..There is no wayout but firing him…….

chazzo

September 21st, 2009
9:34 pm

tybee,
I have noticed we don’t go after punts or field goals. I figure someone would at least sprint in there waving their arms once in a while. It is a little odd.

Kyle T

September 21st, 2009
9:40 pm

I feel sorry to say this……but Coach Richt should fire Willie Martinez………Enough is Enough!!!!!!!!

swhite1115

September 21st, 2009
9:47 pm

Some interesting comments. Thanks to all of you who make constructive comments. My biggest concern over the past several years has been in the inability of the defensive players to tackle properly. Runners seem to easily escape the “grasp” of Georgia defenders with alarming regularity, turning potential losses into three or four yard gains…or worse. A little emphasis on the fundamentals would be nice. That being said, way to go Joe Cox! What a game!!!

southgadawg88

September 21st, 2009
9:47 pm

Actually we should be fine against spread run teams like Fla…the small quick DB is an asset going against their small guys in space.Like I said when you look at the schedule LSU,FLA,Tenn,AUB and GT are running teams first pass second so we should tighten up on D but I say it’s more to do with their offensive schemes than our improvement in pass coverage.Kids have the ability to improve to be sure yet I feel better knowing we don’t have any more big arm QB’s with several big wide outs to work with left to face.

swhite1115

September 21st, 2009
9:51 pm

Oh, and Tony and some of you others…we appreciate your passion, but there’s this thing called “editing” that you might want to check out. There’s nothing quite so amusing as to see you call Martinez or Richt “a idiot” or to see your comments rife with spelling and grammar errors.
Years ago I saw a great cartoon that fits this blog. The scene was from the football stands looking down at the field. The coach was turned around to the stands pointing at a guy. “You!” the coach was yelling, “with all the advice. YOU go in for Kowalski.” It’s easy to say all this stuff from the sidelines. It’s quite another to BE on the actual sidelines coaching 75 or 80 young men.

pete g

September 21st, 2009
9:55 pm

Enter your comments here play man D and rush everybody else

pete g

September 21st, 2009
9:55 pm

Enter your comments here

Cuz

September 21st, 2009
10:12 pm

Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high.
There’s a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

Wishing on rainbows aint going to change defensive coordinators. It just won’t happen in mid season. Give up and move to another subject. Like blackouts! Yeah baby!

dawgstephen

September 21st, 2009
10:50 pm

What do bama fans and maggots have in common??

Both live years on a dead bear.

Sea Island

September 21st, 2009
11:17 pm

Miss Saint Simons,

Please don’t forget to pick up my dry cleaning.

Signed,

Sea Island

33-17

AZDawg5

September 22nd, 2009
12:16 am

Coach Bozo has got to be loving all of the focus on Willie Vanille….talk about flying under the radar for the moment….This week against a very average Hack 10 Devils team should seal the fate of both these knuckle heads for the balance of the season….

Buckskin

September 22nd, 2009
4:46 am

Willie, Willie needs to go! We need a fired up DC that can motivate the best out of players. Where can we find the next Eric Russell – he was a motivator.

Mark dawg-Odessa FL

September 22nd, 2009
6:37 am

Enter your comments here
D-Tech Fan and Saint Simons
If your brains were dynomite you would’nt be able to blow your nose.

ceph

September 22nd, 2009
7:02 am

why is everyone analyzing to death what is wrong with the defense. Every week it is a different scenario, not enough pressure, wrong coverage, dada, dada, dada. There is only one thing wrong with the defense and that is the guy coaching it!!!!!! These are things that Martinez has had five years to correct and it only gets worse. When Spurrier fired Zook he said. ” I looked at every programs defensive co-ordinator and Stoops stood out above everyone else so I went after Him” This is what Richt needs to do but, I am afraid it will never happen. Martinez made a statement in the spring that he didn’t look at other programs schemes because there is nothing wrong with his schemes> So if there is nothing wrong with his schemes then there must be something wrong with his coaching because there is no other alternative. UGA has great players (check how many are in the NFL) they just simply don’t know what to do under Martinez!!!!!

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AltamahaDawg

September 22nd, 2009
7:16 am

On the positive, this is the second week in a row that the TEAM gave up a big lead early on pure mistakes and turnovers, fought back and by the middle of the third quarter, after getting a lead the defense did make the adjustments to basicaly stop the bleeding and gave up very little after that. That is new.

NC Dawg

September 22nd, 2009
7:37 am

Constant blitzing can’t fix a defense; if anything, it becomes so predictable that the blitz is relatively easy to scorch for big plays. What we need is an interior lineman or two who can manhandle the guy in front of him and get to the QB.

J Dub

September 22nd, 2009
9:13 am

Chris, I know its been a while since you posted, but when you said that College Gameday was supposed to be held at the site of the clear best matchup of the day, I agree with you and thought that was how it was supposed to be. That being said, with all of the controversy and hype, why would they not have had it in Gainesville for the Fla-TN game? Maybe on paper that wasn’t going to be a close game, but it turned out to be one, and you can’t match the intensity of that game with a Texas-TT game in my opinion. That is when I made up in my mind that they were only having gameday for ESPN or ABC affiliated games.

D&D fan

September 22nd, 2009
9:59 am

41 38 49 38 45 24 37 41 bank on it? Yea, just like the Loss to SC? Or like the loss to Arky? Keep your day job polishing door knobs, nerd turd.

Hey how’s that Hi-powered passing attack working out with your high school offensive scheme? What’s that you say; you got a mud hole stomped in your back side by LSU and Miami? And you have completely dropped off the national radar? Awwww, well don’t feel too bad; you should be used to this by now, I mean only one win in 7 years vs. your in-state rival really sux, but then you’re used to that too right? LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Gt the joke of GA gone national! LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

toole

September 22nd, 2009
10:04 am

Bryan Evans and Reshard Jones are killing us in the secondary. Evans is trying to find someone he can cover, but offensive lineman don’t go out for passes. Jones is so blood thirsty he doesn’t care if the pass is completed he wants to hit someone. Maybe we should move him to DE or LB. Move Evans out to the intramural fields. I hear some soroities need help in flag football. Maybe if Evans cut that 50 lbs of hair he might gain a step or two. Put Rambo back there. He has the speed and desire to play the position.

mdawg

September 22nd, 2009
10:09 am

J Dub, everytime college gameday has been in athens, we have lost. they are a distraction for the home team.

you ask why they would not have it in the UGA-FL game? because the game is rarely close.

fire willie now. im sure he can find a job at mcdonalds

Justin

September 22nd, 2009
10:27 am

“Geaux” = “G’est”

Kelly's a Dawg

September 22nd, 2009
10:37 am

Heck, maybe Cox can throw 8 touchdowns against Florida and our offense score, say, 78 points…then we won’t have to worry about our defense. Right, Bill?

Come on. The title of this article is what can be done about the defense, right? Anyone want to bench our first string players and let the second team play? Heck no. Even if you’re as loyal to Martinez as CMR, the answer is still the same…a change in DC is needed. Fire Martinez.

Ed

September 22nd, 2009
11:31 am

I agree with Tony. Even though we somehow won the SEC in ‘05, there were signs of hard times on defense to come. Such as…the complete lack of preparation at the start of the UF game when it was 14-0 before the seats were warm, then UF went ultra-conservative knowing that Joe T wasn’t going to beat them…the blown assignment that allowed Auburn to easily convert a 4th and long, setting up a chip-shot field goal, the complete meltdown in the first half of the Sugar Bowl against W. Va.

More of the same in ‘06 – surrendering long, time-consuming drives to the worst Colorado team in decades, second-half collapse against Tennessee, inability to make stops against Vandy and UK. On to ‘07, and another complete collapse against Tennessee, inability to stop UF even with the Howard sacks (thank God their defense was even worse that day), giving up big yards and points against what should have been an outmanned Troy team, etc. And of course, ‘08, and the collapse against Alabama, surrendering to UF at the first sign of adversity, and the complete lack of defensive resistance against a Tech team that ran the ball on every down.

What happened to “Finish the Drill?” I think that mentality left with BVG. We need to get it back if we are to contend for the SEC title again.

Dentaldawg

September 22nd, 2009
11:46 am

just keep winning, dawgs, and you can give up as many passing yards as you like! Go Dawgs!

Wise ol Dawg

September 22nd, 2009
12:18 pm

I still wonder what happened to all those star recruits UGA signed for so many years. If our defense is short of qualified help, just dip in that pool of stars that ostensibly are just sitting on the sidelines waiting for their number to be called. But, of course ’somebody’ might have been telling the same BIG FAT LIE year after year of recruiting average players, or even below average players.

Kendawg

September 22nd, 2009
1:32 pm

Cutting down on turnovers, especially those that give the opponent a short field, would help the defense immeasureably. It will be interesting to see if this is a point of emphasis against Arizona State.

BILLY JACK

September 22nd, 2009
4:28 pm

The secondary is clearly not being coached,players look confused and clearly dont know what coverage they are in.Corners are releasing with no safety help behind them and Bryan Evans lets recievers run by him once or twice a game for big plays.If UGA wins 10 games or so this year Willie still has to go.Kirby Smart the DC at Alabama needs to come back home.

Sanford Drive

September 22nd, 2009
7:56 pm

Blair Walsh, stop kicking it out of bounds

chazzo

September 23rd, 2009
7:37 am

Van Gorder was at the helm (at least defensive helm) of a very special team for his three season with the dogs. Spurrier ran off to the NFL. So, he didn’t face him at SC and only faced him at UF his first year. There was no Urban Meyer. Nick Saban was a LSU and ran up 34 points on us in the SEC championship. Alabama was at a crossroad all three of those years. The two years we played Bama, they were mediocre under Price and Shula and rang up 24 points or so on us. Tech had two different coaches, so he went against Chan Gailey’s first two offences. I liked Van Gorder. I liked his intensity. But, he was hardly a the god that some make him out to be. Bottom line, he never faced the fire power Willie faced last year and with half of his first string lost to injury.

Willie may not be the man. I will fully concede that someone else may be better. But, someone else may be worse, and making a any kind of major coaching change at this point in the season would most likely be disastrous. He is what we got, folks. I think we should all get behind him and our team and support them through this season.

I still say we end up in the top ten be season’s end. Go Dawgs!

Jeff

September 23rd, 2009
8:12 am

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((33-17 LMAO))))))))))))))))0ut of Polls))))))))LMAO………..GOOOOO St. Simons!

AceDawg

September 23rd, 2009
11:21 am

If talented players aren’t doing their job, you could argue that UGA recruited the wrong ones. I don’t believe that is the case though, so let’s not ignore the fact that the D-Coordinator is responsible for training the players to be prepared and properly execute a gameplan. Why in the heck do we need to stick to a traditional pass rush when we have lots of speed on defense? We ought to send more blitzing pressure and rely on team speed to make plays on the ball. Let’s have a little more man coverage where our fast cover guys can stick to one man and worry less about zone schemes. I know it ain’t that easy, but clearly UGA recruiting is at a higher level than UGA performance.

We shouldn’t be like a Ron Zook team with talent and no performance! Willie – good luck, and I hope things improve, but don’t be afraid to look for a fresh start somewhere else in 2010!!

atlfalcon

September 23rd, 2009
12:19 pm

lamar said…
“Any IDIOT can see that the defense is in the wrong formation. HOW MANY TIMESA HAVE YOU SEEN GA LINE UP ON RECEIVERS WITH A PRESS COVERAGE?? NEVER!! They line up 15 yds off the receivers & ALL THE QB HAS TO DO IS PITCH & CATCH!! MARTINEZ IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF GARBAGE THAT EVER COACKED A DEFENSE! SINCE HE TOOK OVER GA HAS WENT DOWN HILL EVERY YEAR & THE SOONER HE IS KICKED TO THE CURB THE BETTER! HE IS A PATHETIC PIECE OF JUNK BUT DONT FORGET “” HE IS RICHTS BEST FRIEND””! PATHETIC!!!!!”

- Took the words right out of my mouth nice one.

chazzo

September 24th, 2009
2:57 pm

AceDawg,

Bad example man. Ron Zook’s underachieving team beat the Van Gorder D two years straight.