Dogs’ old-fashioned August suffering

The old football maxim that the tougher the practices are the better off the team will be come game time has been questioned by some in recent years. 

The new argument goes that with the year-round conditioning programs that college players go through, particularly in summer drills, brutal two-a-days in August don’t really gain you that much, and might end up costing you in injuries, whether minor ones like hamstring pulls, or major ones that might cause a player to miss a year.

You won’t hear that kind of talk around the Woodruff Practice Fields in Athens, however. After letting up in practice last year because of the alarming number of players going down with injuries, Mark Richt saw the Dogs’ fundamentals, focus and discipline all slip. The results weren’t pretty.

Practices toughened up for the bowl game and, at least in the case of the defense, definite improvement was shown. Approaching this season, Richt vowed to stay tough in practices if at all possible.

Seems like he’s done it so far, judging by a report in the Macon Telegraph on Georgia’s “grueling” preseason drills. The head coach briefly thought about letting up a bit last Friday when it looked like it might rain because his players were so exhausted. But the rain held off and Richt went ahead with a full practice. “They are tired, they are sore, but they responded,” he said.

“My body aches, my body’s sore,” Jeff Owens told the Telegraph. “But to be great, you’ve got to keep pushing. You must get better every day.”

Added Rennie Curran: “If we don’t sacrifice now, it’s going to get ugly. The way I look at it is, I’d rather hurt now than hurt on ESPN or in front of those fans and look sloppy in front of the fans. We’ve been putting work in day in and day out, and hopefully it’s going to pay off.”

So what do you think? Can you practice too hard in August? Is the risk of injury worth it? What about all that practice time that’s being missed by Caleb King and company because of those strained hamstrings? 

Or can the shortcomings of last year’s team be attributed at least in part to not suffering enough on the practice field in August?

73 comments Add your comment

Saint Simons

August 25th, 2009
2:00 pm

((((( 45 42 ))))) hahahahahaha

chazzo

August 25th, 2009
2:15 pm

Glad to hear it. Go dawgs!

GeoffDawg

August 25th, 2009
2:21 pm

I can’t think of any better way to develop and maintain toughness, mental discipline, and team chemistry than to go through a rigourous practice schedule. Besides, if you recruit as well as Georgia does, then theoretically at least, backups should be able to step in if they’ve been adequately conditioned and coached up. Sounds like (I hope) Georgia will be more closely following the team concept this year. I’m ok with few superstars if you’ve got 22 talented, hardworking players willing to push themselves to the wall.

45ACP

August 25th, 2009
2:29 pm

Sorry to read that Bryce Ros’ football career is over.
Good luck to the young man.

Diamond Dave

August 25th, 2009
2:34 pm

Just block and tackle.

45ACP

August 25th, 2009
2:34 pm

Bill, in the picture with the nomenclature, do you have a big chew of Red Man in your cheek?

dawgfanatic24-7

August 25th, 2009
2:41 pm

These guys have to get acclimated to the heat. You can count on it being hot for the first six games. Yeah we’ve had some out with hamstring injuries but they could get those in a game. Its all part of the toughening up process.

GeoffDawg

August 25th, 2009
2:45 pm

I echo the sentiment regarding Ros’ football career ending injury. Good luck to him on his future endeavors.

Bill – a question regarding scholarships. I read that Mark Richt is going to petition the NCAA to allow Ros to stay on scholarship. If that occurs, does that count against Georgia’s total or can they recruit one extra player for the 2010 class?

billytdoogan

August 25th, 2009
2:45 pm

When did the general sissyfication in our culture begin? Practice is too hard, you might hurt someone’s feelings, or worse, their self-esteem. This is all BS. Sports are about combining the best athletes you can on a field. lf you can’t hack it, don’t play. No, Practice is not too hard, it is necessary in order to prepare for the rigors of the season.

NEWNANDAWG

August 25th, 2009
2:45 pm

Practice should be tough and greuling, it is afterall football isn’t it? Players who do not practice hard do not play hard. I think this group of Dawgs seems or atleast seem to be accepting the challange. When the whistle blows in stillwater I think that the gloves will come off of what i expect to be a hardnosed, helmet busting defense this year. By the way I predict that the TE’s we are used to at UGA are back and will play hell on the opposing LB’s.GO DAWGS

BoiseDawg

August 25th, 2009
2:47 pm

With year round conditioning I would think they should be better prepared to handle the toughness of August workouts. It seems to me you would have had more injury problems in the past with athletes that haven’t done as much conditioning in the off-season to then be exposed to “brutal two-a-day” practices.

As long as they are preparing them properly so they are rested and fresh come game time, working them hard in August should only strengthen this team mentally and physically.

bill dart

August 25th, 2009
2:51 pm

i am st. simons

Dawg Pound

August 25th, 2009
2:55 pm

I don’t care what we do now. Lets just GATA come sept!!! Go Dawgs!!!!!!!!

Pago Flyer

August 25th, 2009
2:57 pm

You mean to tell us that Bryce Ros father is too poor to pay for his kids college tuition?!?! Wow….

Jeff

August 25th, 2009
3:00 pm

Guys that work hard together stick together when things go bad because they have already been in adverse situations before. That was our problem last year. We let every bad situation snowball because our team was not a unified machine. Hopefully some blood, sweat, and tears will solve that problem. I say keep it up and let the chips fall.

NORRIS

August 25th, 2009
3:01 pm

Saint Simons has no job!! Typical for GT fans. They claim that they have a tough school but they cant work. They must want that insurance. You know the one that you can get because you dont work. And if you dont work and get hurt it doesnt matter because the govt can print you some new money.

Bill King

August 25th, 2009
3:02 pm

I am St. Simons.

smashmouth

August 25th, 2009
3:04 pm

is marine boot camp too hard?

Nate

August 25th, 2009
3:05 pm

As a Tech fan, the only reason I came on here was to say to please not listen to my fellow dillusional Jacket, Saint Simons.

DamnGoodDawg

August 25th, 2009
3:07 pm

Won’t somebody Paleeeze buy some Tech tickets!

superDawg

August 25th, 2009
3:08 pm

Tuffness is what comes out of practice,and if you earn the badge it will bring everyone on board and together working for the same cause.GATA and show us what you are made of.GO DAWGS!

Lew Dawg

August 25th, 2009
3:09 pm

Pago Flyer …what does that have to do with anything??? Coach Richt is such a principled man that he is honoring the scholarship originally offered to Bryce. It is the right thing to do. When you are given a 4 year scholarship, it doesn’t say…”unless you get hurt”. Kudos to Coach Richt & UGA.

snot bubble

August 25th, 2009
3:11 pm

You leave Bill alone or I’m gonna kick some serious butt!!!! Was that good cousin Bill…..Was it? Now where’s my dollar and pass the spit cup……

superDawg

August 25th, 2009
3:11 pm

bill dart if you are a real person and not saint simons I would sue the nerd out of him.

xl.dawg

August 25th, 2009
3:11 pm

Bought my Yech tickets. Came in the mail last week. Forgot they were $75 each. Guess you have to get it while you can. There will be more Red @ north avenue trade school again anyway!

Portland Dawg

August 25th, 2009
3:12 pm

Yes, it’s worth it. Just look at last year for evidence.

Come On...

August 25th, 2009
3:13 pm

What you guys don’t understand is that if you don’t mention the ignorant poster, he will go away, or at least, not get his satisfaction. Mentioning him fuels the fire…We got 11 posts in before someone had to mention him.

Hey Dogtards

August 25th, 2009
3:17 pm

“Saint Simons has no job!! Typical for GT fans. They claim that they have a tough school but they cant work. They must want that insurance. You know the one that you can get because you dont work. And if you dont work and get hurt it doesnt matter because the govt can print you some new money.”

Except the fact that the average starting salary of a Tech grad is 33% (or 15,000) higher than the average starting salary of a uga grad. ~60k v. ~ 45k. Not that it really matters because I didn’t go to either, but to be a uga fan and try to talk anything about money with Tech fans is plain stupid. Tech owns you guys in that category.

toccoadawg

August 25th, 2009
3:21 pm

2 Tech vs Clemson tickets 2 free cokes 2 free hotdogs and 2 free MARTA passes

Dan A.

August 25th, 2009
3:22 pm

Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Yeah, another cliche, I know. But when the 3rd and 4th quarter rolls around, I’d like to know that our guys are not going to be out of shape. They aren’t going to be tired. I completely buy into rigorous conditioning programs in fall practice… I think it can make all the difference in the world.

swimdawg68

August 25th, 2009
3:25 pm

I am a club level season ticket houlder at UGA. I have purchased Fla. tickets for 30 years. When I saw the $75.00 price for the tech ticket I just laughed. I can well afford the tickets but did not purchase any because I was so offended by the price.

I told our ticket manager Tim at UGA, that we need to charge the “nerds” $100 for our tickets next year. A visitor ticket in Sanford is $42 and we don’t charge extra if it is a big game.

Once again the “trade school folks” demonstrate a severe lack of class quite frankly, I’m not surprised.

The Last Believer

August 25th, 2009
3:28 pm

Back in the 40’s, Wally Butts never called off practice until there was enough blood flowing. But then, that was back when UGA football players were expected to act like men, and not be coddled and courted like royalty.

Saint Simons

August 25th, 2009
3:30 pm

just reminder!!!!!!!!!! 45 – 42!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

samuel clemens

August 25th, 2009
3:33 pm

i am saint simons..

bird dawg

August 25th, 2009
3:37 pm

bill, i asked tim yesterday which numbers/jerseys will be available to buy at the stores, didn’t see where he had an answer yet. do you have any idea…i know, i know, there are more important things in life, but i was just wondering.. i would think 8 and 35 would be two of em.. let us know..thx

needums

August 25th, 2009
3:44 pm

We’re lucky to have a leader on UGA’s defence like Rennie Curran, this kid is a class act. When players play for the pride of their school,their state, their community and as he pointed out[ for the fans ] that’s what it’s all about and thats why I love this game. I can’t wait for this season to start and it’s great to be a Georgia Bulldog!!!!!!!!!!

Snellville DAWG

August 25th, 2009
3:45 pm

I think that Saint Simons has something wrong between his ears. What Tech fan doesn’t… Last 8 years. Ga 7 GT 1.

L-Dawg

August 25th, 2009
3:48 pm

GLORY GLORY TO OLE’ GEORGIA!!!

ENJOY MY FALL SATURDAYS CHEERING INSTAED OF BOOING!!!!

GO DAWGS!!!

11 SHORT DAYS MY FRIENDS!!!!!!

L-Dawg

August 25th, 2009
3:49 pm

Little Richard

August 25th, 2009
3:54 pm

St Simons was my stunt double in gay porn. Give him a break; he did a great job getting the tan on before the shoot.

old gold

August 25th, 2009
3:54 pm

st simons, you have run your course and you are an embarassment to the jacket nation.

shane#1

August 25th, 2009
3:55 pm

Did you guys note the time of St Simons first post? Two PM, the exact time of Bill’s post. St Simons is an AJC plant. Too bad about Frank’s kid, I hope he gets a Medical. The tough practice sessions should help prepare for the game day stress because of the confidence surviving such practices builds.

Bill King

August 25th, 2009
3:56 pm

Bird Dog: Last week in Athens I saw jerseys for #s 8, 35 and 22.

(45-42) wORLD TOUr

August 25th, 2009
3:56 pm

Mine eyes have seen the glory
of the stomping of the dawgs.
We will make those poor, dumb farm boys
Wish they’d stuck to slopping hogs.
When our team is victorious
We will sing a mighty cheer:
“We’ll do the same next year!”

To Hell, to Hell, to Hell with Georgia!
To Hell, to Hell, to Hell with Georgia!
To Hell, to Hell, to Hell with Georgia!
The cess pool of the South!

Breaking News:

August 25th, 2009
4:09 pm

Fort Jackson just call a halt to basic training until it cools!
Now back to the regular blog.

Rabun Dawg

August 25th, 2009
4:17 pm

(45-42) wORLD TOUr, Did you dig that out of the archives from the 50’s? Seems to have been a long drought since 1957!

JaxDawg

August 25th, 2009
4:17 pm

Okay, back to the discussion at hand. I think any time a team is facing a tough BCS conference opponent on the road to open the season, you have to practice hard. The OkSt game isn’t a “tune-up” like a traditional cupcake. The Dawgs, Cowboys, Tide, & Hokies all have to be at or very close to mid-season form considering their respective matchups, and if practices are the only way to get ready for that challenge then they have no choice but to go hard to make sure they will be ready.

I think in August teams have to consider their opponent in the first week as to how hard they have to go. Obviously going easy in practice isn’t the answer as the Dawgs proved last year, hopefully tough ones will have a positive effect on the team as a whole.

Dave In Tampa

August 25th, 2009
4:17 pm

Hard work will Always pay off. If the defense can quickly forget about last year and play Bulldawg football Okie Dokie State should be worried. Man, just one game at a time. I hope ESPN keeps building up OSU’s head. Like us last year, hate to say, they will not be able to handle the presure. GATA!!

cheese

August 25th, 2009
4:22 pm

The hardest steel is forged in the hottest heat! Work your butt off anf get better dawgs! Last year was a joke!

ticklepile

August 25th, 2009
4:29 pm

St. Simons has a job. He’s my official rim cleaner.

Frank Wren

August 25th, 2009
4:33 pm

Free Cokes

Free Hotdogs here !!!!

godawg

August 25th, 2009
4:41 pm

I like what Rennie says…

Paddy

August 25th, 2009
5:53 pm

Of course practice is too hard. It is planned that way. If you never played you can’t answer this question. And who was it that said UGA practices were too hard? The “NOW” gang. Maybe PETA?

Minnesota Dawg

August 25th, 2009
6:13 pm

Hard practices keep the guys in shape for the game. Every aspect of the game hinges on the practices. Practice makes perfect. I wonder how many injuries wouldn’t happen if the players stayed in shape with tough but reasonable practices.

SugarHillDawg

August 25th, 2009
6:31 pm

Saint Simon’s mother needs to limit his computer time but I guess she has too many Johns to service.

Big time?? Not

August 25th, 2009
6:35 pm

Four tickets, four hot dogs, four cokes

Buster

August 25th, 2009
6:36 pm

We’re talking about practice.

john

August 25th, 2009
6:57 pm

Obviously, poor tackling and poor discipline (penalties) cost the dogs dearly last year. If harder practices can improve those two things, I expect great things from the dogs this year. And that doesn’t mean a national championship and maybe not even a conference championship, but it means competing like champions every game.

AltamahaDawg

August 25th, 2009
7:54 pm

This whole story is very “the chicken or the egg”. And mercifully in 2 weeks we wont have to cover, and recover, and recover old stories.

Every coach in the country goes as as hard as they, WHILE they can. Obviously we are going harder now, when we have a 99% healthy team. But too difficult was not the story of blown knees and broken bones last year. That was just Freakish. Even after cutting back, they still mounted, so obviously there is no magic formula, and its not even a matter of philosophy.

And the lack of (fill in the blank with subjective term) was just as much a result of a player having absolutely no back ups during the game as it was how they practiced during the week.

Let’s just keep a 3 deep rotation and not speak of this dark chapter again.

Saint Simons

August 25th, 2009
10:16 pm

HI everyone, when I post the numbers 45-42, I am actually telling everyone my penis size in inches (3).

Mike T.

August 26th, 2009
12:22 am

Mine eyes have seen the glory
of the stomping of the dawgs.
We will make those poor, dumb farm boys
Wish they’d stuck to slopping hogs.
When our team is victorious
We will sing a mighty cheer:
“We’ll do the same next year!”

Now that is poetry there nerd.
Now this!
How about them Dawgs! 59-36-5, we own Georgia Tech, even with last years fluke 3 point Tech win.
Only a couple of more months to enjoy it, then the Dawgs start another win streak, against the team with the world’s ugliest uniforms.

87dawg

August 26th, 2009
5:26 am

And if I had a daughter, I’d dress her in white and gold.
And stand her on the corner her virginity to be sold.
And if I had a son, sir, I tell you what I’d do
I say “Sell yourself for money!”
Like your mother used to do

41 38 49 38 45

August 26th, 2009
6:28 am

Its the DEFENSE stupid!

Turd Kennedy

August 26th, 2009
6:31 am

Yall are a bunch of dawg turds!

Harpoon

August 26th, 2009
8:09 am

GAWD…bunch of lame ass bozos

Dawgs Fan

August 26th, 2009
9:09 am

Of course you can’t practice to hard in August. King’s injury is just one in a long list of problems he has had since he broke his leg in high school. I don’t think he has the fire inside for football anymore. It is very evident in the way he runs. Compare Samuels and Kings running style. Samuels wants it bad, King is just trying to be careful.

Habersham Dawg

August 26th, 2009
9:10 am

As long as the Dawgs are healthy enough to practice at near game conditions, then they need to hit and hit and hit during these practices. But for the cliches, here’s the rebuttals, “Practice doesn’t make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect”. Second, and my biggest pet peeve for a saying is the one by Nietzche, “That which does not kill us makes us stronger.” That saying is crap. There are many things that don’t kill us that weaken us and harm us. Remember, Nietzche also said “God is dead.”

Dawg Tired

August 26th, 2009
10:02 am

An old coach here. Tough practices make players mentally tougher. Absolutely necessary.

dan

August 26th, 2009
10:32 am

Speaking as a former football player, I think practices need to be hard AND smart. It’s less about beating the ever living hell out of each other and more about practicing the technique at a variety of speeds( half speed, full speed, slow speed). Doing something fast or hard doesn’t mean you’re doing it right. ” Slow and Strong” can be better than ” Fast and Wrong” in some situations because when someone is in an adverse situation, it’s the fundamentals that they will fall back on. If the foundation is weak, the house will crumble.

I think the bigger issue for the Dawgs is going back to the ” Finishing the Drill” mentality that Richt’s earlier teams had. In every single one of their losses last season, the Dawgs got hit in the mouth and DID NOT respond. This was the first team under Richt that has performed in such a way. They were very weak mentally, like they were scared out there. I’m not 100% sure how you fix that, but they better otherwise it will be a LONG season.

AltamahaDawg

August 26th, 2009
10:51 am

Habersham, a few more of those worn out cliches’ and we would have lost 2 more games last year.

Richt said this morning that they are basically doing what they always done in camp, including last year.

Simply lost too many players during the year, and in an effort to field a team, he did what every coach in America would do. And could only win 10 games in a tough schedule. <- my words

Next.

AceDawg

August 26th, 2009
10:58 am

Gotta practice hard. Certainly Saban is. Certainly Meyer is. Even most ultimate of pricks like Bob Stoops are.

Habersham Dawg

August 26th, 2009
2:25 pm

Altahama, glad you agreed with me.

Cheese

August 30th, 2009
12:32 am

Don’t send my boy to MIT
The dying mother said,
Don’t send my boy to Emory
I’d rather see him dead,
Send my boy to Georgia Tech
T’is better than Cornell
As for the University of Georgia
I’d rather see him in Hell

To Hell, To Hell, To Hell with Georgia
To Hell, To Hell, To Hell with Georgia
To Hell, To Hell, To Hell with Georgia
The Cess Pool of the South