Cowpoke: Dogs should be ‘scared’

Preseason practice hasn’t even begun and the folks in Stillwater have already reached a fever pitch in their excitement over the opening game against Georgia. And no wonder. Because of their high-powered offense, many prognosticators are pegging Oklahoma State as probably a Top 10 team, despite the fact they’re picked third in their own conference division (such is the current media infatuation with the big guns of the Big 12). 

I checked in recently on the piece I wrote a couple of weeks ago on whether the Cowboys were overrated and the Dogs underrated, and confident Okie State fans are still posting comments. 

The beat writer who covers OSU for the Oklahoman goes so far as to predict a 21-point win over the Bulldogs. 

And now comes a bit of bulletin-board material courtesy of Andre Sexton, a senior linebacker on the Pokes’ defense, who remembers his teammates being intimidated and scared when they visited Athens two years ago for what turned into a beatdown Between the Hedges. 

This time, Sexton told the San Antonio Express-News, “Georgia’s the one that has to be scared. Not us.”

Big talk coming from a member of a defense that ranked 94th nationally last year and in the past has been the Achilles heel that has kept the Cowboys from breaking through to greatness, most recently falling apart in the second half of their Holiday Bowl loss to Oregon.

But T. Boone Pickens U. went out during the offseason and hired a big-name defensive coordinator: Bill Young, who made his name working under former Ohio State coach John Cooper and most recently coached at Kansas and Miami. 

It remains to be seen what sort of change Young has wrought in the OSU defense, but he’s at least got his players believing it’s not so much that they were bad last year as it was they were just playing in a super league.

As Sexton told Yahoo Sports: “People were bashing our defense and saying we’re not any good. It’s not that we’re not any good. We’re just playing against the top talent week in and week out. If an SEC team played in our conference for a year, they’d see. They’d totally respect it. It’s something that’s hard to understand unless you’re in the middle of it.”

Oklahoma and Texas may have the most respect outside the Big 12, but “Oklahoma State is up there with those guys now,” Sexton declared to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. 

And star quarterback Zac Robinson told the paper, “I’m real excited to see our defense play this year. I saw the improvement in the spring. … There are a ton [six starters] back and obviously Coach Young coming in is going to help us a ton with the track record he has and the defenses he’s coached. … I know if our defensive guys buy into his stuff, we’re going to be just fine.”

OK, we know Robinson, running back Kendall Hunter and receiver/punt returner Dez Bryant are among the nation’s best offensive players and OSU is going to score points. And, granted, Young’s more simplified schemes and emphasis on fundamentals probably will result in improved play on the defensive side of the ball. 

But the Pokes allowed more than 400 yards a game last year, ranked 107th nationally in sacks and are having to replace three starters in the secondary. Can one 62-year-old man on the sideline calling the defensive signals make enough of a difference that someone thinks Oklahoma State is three touchdowns better than the Dogs? I’m not convinced.

What do you think? Should Mark Richt’s team be “scared” going into Stillwater?

151 comments Add your comment

tulsa27

July 29th, 2009
12:32 pm

Pokes will win, and if Gundy has it, he’ll definitely run up the score.

cowboys_r_us

July 29th, 2009
12:32 pm

While the piece was written by the “Cowboys Beat Writer”, the newspaper is owned by the Gaylords – OU’s biggest donor. So yes, the piece was satirical and no, most OSU fans don’t believe we’ll win by 21 points. I’m thinking that we’re a 7 point favorite. And for the record, Sexton was probably laughing when he made those comments. I’ve attended numerous classes w/ him and he’s not a mouth – at all. Good luck and enjoy your time in Stillwater…

Rack

July 29th, 2009
12:32 pm

The guy is a beat writer in name only. If you understood the media hacks in our state, you would know that they are ALL almost to a man, HUGE OU homers. With that comes a disdain for the Pokes. This guy is pissed that he has to cover Oklahoma State and took it out on us by writing this SILLY article. In fact in the same piece he predicts a 21 point victory over your Dawgs he predicts a loss to BAYLOR. So take it for what it was, a stupid writer trying to pull a fast one on everyone. Looks like he was successful.

As far as the game, I think Oklahoma State wins and covers in a very close down to the 4th quarter type barn burner of a game. Should be fun and that’s how it’s suppose to be.

Go Pokes.

DawginLex

July 29th, 2009
12:35 pm

Dawg in la la land? Real original trade school flunkie.

Barnhart predicted those games, not me.
It was last year.

Okie state is not an SEC team and Richt has an excellent record on the road.

66-16 is delusional, even for a flunkie.

Gumby

July 29th, 2009
12:36 pm

OSU’s defense gave up a lot ground last year, no doubt. But they did hold their opponent’s offenses to 42 yards below their opponents average offensive output.

BTW – UGA’s all-world defense held it’s opponents offenses to 23 yards below their opponents average offensive output.

getthepicturenow

July 29th, 2009
12:38 pm

cowboysrus, dude, he’s cited in 3 different articles running that mouth about how “good” okst’s D is?????? not a mouth????????? come on now!!!

chazzo

July 29th, 2009
12:40 pm

PS, A painful reminder, though. The dawgs also lost to two top ten teams and a bottom ten team. Over confidence will kill the dawg in this one, but nobody better be scared.

Gatorzone

July 29th, 2009
12:41 pm

I look for UGA to come out swinging here and the Dline to really get their QB off of his game.
UGA should then be able to put the clamps on their offense.
UGA wins 28-14.

Drew-G-A

July 29th, 2009
12:43 pm

Not scared at all. Concerned Yes. Scared no. This whole argument about them playing against the best competition is BS. The reason all of those Big 12 Offenses put up such big numbers is because they all play against horrible defenses like OK State’s. Case and Point, the national Chamionship game. You put our best SEC team against their best Big 12 team, and what do you know, there offense doesn’t do anything. Yes, Texas did crush Arkansas last year, but that’s like putting Georgia against Baylor and using it as an example in the conference argument.

OK Sate is gonna be good, and probably better than last year. But I’m confident in our ability to feild a very good football team against them on Sept. 5th.

chazzo

July 29th, 2009
12:44 pm

PSS. Every OSU fan that I know and for the most part the ones who have contributed to these blogs seem like really great fans. They show class. So let’s not show our collective arse when we go “to take over that stadium” and wind up getting beat.

Dooley's Cardiologist

July 29th, 2009
12:48 pm

This game alone will make or break Joe Ter…I mean Cox. I am actually looking forward to a good, old fashioned sloberknocker in this one.

Jefferson

July 29th, 2009
12:49 pm

UGA should not even practice since they are so good. Why even play, just give them the SEC runner up medal and get the cows in the barn. They ain’t scared of nobody.

cffreak

July 29th, 2009
12:55 pm

doggies start out 09 season with a loss. Get’s worse as the season goes on. richt has to wear helmet during games in second half of the season as fans call for his head. Much laughter ensues around the SEC.

AltamahaDawg

July 29th, 2009
12:58 pm

Thank goodness we have tech fans to come in here and tell us all what we think. Thanks.

21 point win? I assume he gives UGA credit for actually scoring something, a few times. Against thier defense thats “not that bad”……OK, whatwever. I know one thing, our offense is not going to be terrible. So he is saying OSU can score say 5,6,7 TD? Depends.

Pretty simple, don’t give them the ball, unless its after killing 8 minutes.

Our defense IS going to be better, even if only, as was said, cant be worse than last year. What was it Richt said, fall camp we will have something like 50 more player availible. Even an injury rash isn’t going to start to mount up till later. We WILL roll into Stillwater with the ability to substitute unlike the last half of 2008. I think that’s what folks are not fully grasping. Even if you had your entire first string (which was certainly not the case) they cannot hold up the entire game. That’s why we didnt have a pass rush, we didnt have fresh guys rolling in. We’ll see if we can hang on enough to keep OSU from running up and down the field on us. Even ol’ Dumb Willie can at least pester the other team.

Our offence had flash last year but a major component in our 3 losses was that it’s all we had. We could not convert a 3rd and short, (or a goal to go), when it matter the most and that is O-line, plain and simple. Mistakes and TOs happen, but when your offense goes 3 and out for a quarter and a half, when your D is already in trouble…who cares what your “stars” are doing over on the sidelines? Hopefully our “grunts” are still going to be on the field this year picking up a very unspectacular 4 yrds all day long. And I think we do have some flash left.

Okie st

July 29th, 2009
1:04 pm

Ga is in for a rude awakening. Can’t wait to see the looks on their faces when we go up 14-0 in the first quarter. You’re wasting money coming out here thinking it will be a win for you. You’re so high on yourself dawg fans. New qb. Lousy defense. We’re going to roll over your team.

38-17.

gratefuldawghead

July 29th, 2009
1:12 pm

Okie St….It will be about normal for us to be down 14-0 in the first quarter..I think we can make the adjustments and have a big comeback. We are excited to open in Stillwater!

Josh

July 29th, 2009
1:14 pm

Beat the hell out of those ignorrant cowpokes.

YoungDawg

July 29th, 2009
1:18 pm

This is the 2nd day in a row there’s a post or reports where OK St fans, alums, players or media is being over confident. I hope it stays that way! They just might blow us out but if they believe the hype then don’t prepare properly they just might get blown out! I think us Dawgs know how that deal works & would love to flip it on somebody! Someone mentioned Red Britches those or Dooley are Whites would be fine by me. GO DAWGS! SIC’EM!

Josh

July 29th, 2009
1:18 pm

Wow the guy a few spots above me is a failure. Georgia could have been in the National Championship game in 2002 and 2005 and 2007. Idiot.

athensdawg

July 29th, 2009
1:18 pm

althamaha, i agree. O-Line is the key to this game. That, and throwing to thee tight ends.

D has got to be better…..but even if it is not, if we can play Dooleyball, we should win.

People forget that Dooleyball worked against this upstart young quarterback named Steve Young and his BYU cougars, and tons of run/shoot teams…which is all this spread stuff is.

Ball control, running game, defense. The three things that georgia football is known for….and we have gotten away from in the last few years.

honestly, we all should be more worried about spurrier coming to town the next week. remember what happened after our ‘high profile’ win against ASU……

Funny

July 29th, 2009
1:19 pm

Josh calls OSU “ignorrant” and he can’t even spell it right. Typical of a uga fan. Hay my name is Josh. I dont have no duhgree from that thar school in Athens but I shar do like them football team. Idiots.

Okie st

July 29th, 2009
1:22 pm

Good luck and enjoy your visit. I will be at the game and am looking forward to it too.

"War Eagle" is a battle cry, not a mascot

July 29th, 2009
1:25 pm

Custer: “Hell, those Indians should be scared of US!”

Ali Akbar Allah

July 29th, 2009
1:25 pm

Georgia will lost by 4 TD’s to Okie St and by 5 TD’s to Georgia Tech. Not only will Willie Martinez head be on a stake, calls will be for Mark Ricks also. It’s great to be a yellow jacket!

Josh

July 29th, 2009
1:25 pm

JaxDawg, we beat LSU 52-38 not 34-14 WTH?

Chris

July 29th, 2009
1:27 pm

Oklahoma State is just trying to talk themselves up. That is what scared teams do. They think if they keep saying all the bull they may believe too. I saw Ok. State hust two years ago get destroyed at Troy with Zac Robinson at the helm. Ok State is rising but their not there yet. People are wondering why Georgia picked them well it might be the other way around. Mark Richt is smarter than all of the Big 12 coaches combined. He knew what he was doing when he signed this game. Georgia is doubted in these big non-conference games every year and every year Georgia comes out with a victory. Stillwater will be quite Still when Georgia blows right through town. The Cowboys will at least know after the game that the schedule will not get tougher the rest of the year. If anybody should be worried about OK. State its because of their runningback “Hunter”. I respect that kid and he is very talented. He is an SEC type back who got lost when he was picking schools. Georgia will win 35-24.

PBR=America in a can

July 29th, 2009
1:28 pm

Trade school junkie needs to come up for air, he has been on the bottom of the tickle pile way too long. I know OKSU wants to make a statement but i think the Dawgs want to make a bigger statement considering how things went last year. Games are won in the trenches and i think we have the advantage on both sides.

"War Eagle" is a battle cry, not a mascot

July 29th, 2009
1:29 pm

and by the way, to the poster above, I bleed Auburn orange as an Auburn alum, but I don’t think USC (whose team that year is generally considered one of the best college football teams in the past 25 years) would have been a “gimmie” game if we got to play them in ‘04 :) I sure would have loved to had seen it, though.

Urban's husband

July 29th, 2009
1:38 pm

Oh brother,

OSU is this years Clemson. All the hype and then they will get run over by a more talented SEC team with less experience. Plus look at CMR’s road record at UGA. Then again, with all those 2 and 3 star prospects OSU lands every year maybe than give us a game. “I’m a man, I’m 40!!!” LOL!

Do you wear jorts?

July 29th, 2009
1:47 pm

PBR=America in a can

You are 100% correct. Do you think Alabama won 11 games last year on the arm of JPW? No way. The trenches is where it will get done.

The truth

July 29th, 2009
1:51 pm

Again, OSU returns a veteran offensive line starting 5 seniors including at least one NFL 1st round pick. They are either the best or second best oline in the big 12. OSU returns players who have more than 5500 career rushing yards. UGA returns players who have about 500 career rushing yards. OSU returns a veteran quarterback who was one of the nation’s leaders in passing efficiency last year and who has more than 6000 career psasing yards(in addition to 1500 yards rushing). Joe Cox has something like 500 career passing yards.

Our running backs:Kendall Hunter, all conference, all american. Keith Toston, 1500+ career yards. Beau Johnson, our 3rd stringer, has more yards than caleb king. Behind them are RS freshman Kye Staley, a 4* recruit 6′3 230 4.5 powerback. Dezter Pratt 5* 6′3″ 225, Jeremy Smith, one of the top 10 HS RB’s last year, Travis Miller, 4.3 speedster, etc. etc.

UGA fans need to realize, OSU was injury plagued the last two games last year. Hunter was injured versus Colorado and played hurt versus OU, had knee surgery before the bowl game…the bowl game is not indicative of his ability. Zac seperated his shoulder against Oregon, and Dez hurt his knee versus oregon. These injuries killed our chances in the Holiday Bowl, but we still had the lead in the 4th quarter. Likewise versus OU.

A healthy Kendall Hunter gashed Texas in Austin last year for 160 yards. Our guys are more than capable of gashing the UGA defense. Nobody including OU and Texas stopped us last year on offense, and both of these teams have superior talent on defense compared to UGA.

I am pretty certain that OSU is going to run the ball right at your defense. Good luck stopping that. You’re not playing a passing team, you are playing a running team that has a good wr. As for our other wr, they are talented, but unproven, like the rest of your recievers aside from AJ green.

OSU returns all of its LBs going 2 deep. Andre Sexton is actually a very good player, he is all conference caliber. Remember, OSU played 6 of the top 10 offenses last year and this is skewing the stats. If UGA went up every week against chase daniel, sam bradford, colt mccoy, graham harrell, case keenum, etc, your defensive stats would drop down a bit too. Instead you are playing john parker wilson (who btw osu defeated a couple years back in the independence bowl), and, frankly, a bunch of other subpar qbs in the SEC. Beyond Tebow, what good quarterback did you play last year?

OSU has good talent on defense…returning 10 of top 12 tacklers. Among our ‘new’ players on defense are several 4 and 5 * recruits who turned down SEC and OU, Texas…victor johnson, markelle martin, richetti jones, ugo chinhasa. Swanson Miller is a beast on the DL. Perrish Cox is an NFL pick at cornerback. so it is not like these guys suck.

The other factor to keep in mind is the return game, both Dez Bryant and Perrish Cox are all americans here.

The bottom line: OSU has proven commodoties, NFL picks at skill positions, and vast experience all over the field. UGA has AJ Green and a career benchwarmer at qb and what looks to be a decent defense. You’ll probably hold us to somewhere between 30 and 45 points. Last year, playing at home, our lowest point output was 34 versus Baylor. Second best was OU, they held us to 41.

and it is dumb to think UGA is better than OU on defense, or texas. ever heard of Bryan Orakpo? Travis Lewis? Gerald McCoy? Demarcus Granger? Sergio Kindle? oh heaven’s no, we aren’t used to playing these SEC defenders. They are so much better than the NFL players fielded by Texas and Oklahoma.

Good luck. This ain’t 2007. Zac Robinson isn’t Bobby Reid and OSU is about 1000x better this time around.

Buddy El

July 29th, 2009
1:54 pm

Jay Root: Why would UGA want to discard an opponent who has managed to put up a 1-7 record over the last 8 years?

Huh?

July 29th, 2009
1:55 pm

Okie State is a hyped pretender. Real programs don’t talk trash in the media about their opponents getting scared. That is totally amateur hour and that clown will be crapping his pants after Chapas earholes his a$$ into another dimension. Not much else to say besides that. Okie State is a soft and sissified football team and this game will be over by middle of the 3rd quarter at the latest. The real season begins against South Carolina the next week…

Pago Flyer

July 29th, 2009
1:56 pm

We just hope and pray that our defense and special teams show up!

charliedawg

July 29th, 2009
1:59 pm

YAWN……………………………sounds lke hawaii or boise state all over again to me, or myabe it was Arizona State…

and give the trade schoolers a break, they don’t have their own blog site

Gatorzone

July 29th, 2009
1:59 pm

Just dont pull a UT out in Stillwater!

GO DAWGS, make the SEC proud!

godawg

July 29th, 2009
2:01 pm

Okey dokey…

PBR=America in a can

July 29th, 2009
2:07 pm

the truth im glad you did all your research on okie state but im really not impressed. When it comes down to we have a better line on both sides of the ball. Im not saying Georgia is going to stomp OKSU but we have the advantage in the trenches. Look at the last time Georgia opened up on the road against a good team (Clemson 33-0) in 03. Richt will have the Dawgs ready and they sure as hell wont be scared to play in your stadium. So tell your players to keep talking trash and we will see what happens when the whistle blows. i dont think your going to like the outcome

mcdawg

July 29th, 2009
2:17 pm

I hope P. Miller is ready to cover Dez Bryant-i think the reemergence of the Big 12 (Big 8) is the best thing to happen to college football in a long-time but i simply was not impressed by any of the Defenses in the Big 12 OU UT included

if we play a fundamentally sound game-we win 31-14, 28-21 ????

1983Dawg

July 29th, 2009
2:31 pm

Remember that Florida limited Oklahoma’s vaunted offense to 14 points. SEC defenses are an entirely different commodity than the Big 12 defenses!

DamnGoodDawg

July 29th, 2009
2:32 pm

The Truth (UGA fans need to realize, OSU was injury plagued the last two games last year.),

I think you fail to realize that UGA had 30 players sidelined to injury last season. And still only lost 3 games in the toughest conference in the nation. If you guys lost 30+ players could you do as good?

Archie

July 29th, 2009
2:36 pm

The things Georgia should be scared about is the momentum and tempo. Georgia is as fast as it gets, so I’m not saying they’re slow, but spread offenses play at a game tempo that Georgia isn’t used to. That’s the biggest reason for huge offensive numbers in the Big 12, they run more plays per game in that conference. They’re snapping the ball with 15 or 20 seconds left on the play clock. The game just happens faster in the Big 12, and it’s not the footspeed kind of fast, it’s the rapid sequence of events. It makes it so that momentum swings can be fast and brutal, you can go from a tie game to a 21 point deficit in two minutes. Georgia isn’t used to that style of play, but with a summer to prepare they can certainly be ready. That also works in the other direction against Oklahoma State. For spread teams that are used to their nonstop pace, teams that slow down the action and use the entire play clock and grind the ball with their running game can really bog down the offense and stop it before it ever starts.

Jeff

July 29th, 2009
2:37 pm

WRITE IT DOWN……..OUR DEFENSE (even WITHOUT a GREAT DC) will WRECK havoc on hefferpoks.There is NO comparison in talent….

dan

July 29th, 2009
2:46 pm

Maybe that’s what UGA needs to hear instead of everyone sucking up to them like they did last year. I hope everyone expects us to lose by 21 points. I want OSU to talk as much trash as they want. I want them to say that they will run up the score if UGA doesn’t bring their A game. I want them to say that UGA is soft and isn’t “Man Enough”. Honestly if I were OSU, I wouldn’t be scared of the Dawgs either. I like trash talk, and I like the fact that teams aren’t giving us respect until we earn it. It gives us something to prove come gameday, and that’s a good thing!

Huh?

July 29th, 2009
2:48 pm

“but spread offenses play at a game tempo that Georgia isn’t used to.”

Uh, Florida, Troy, Hawaii, or Central Michigan ring a bell? All employ some variation of the spread offense and Georgia has played all of them in the past two seasons. Although none of the current players were around at the time, Martinez was leading the defense when West Virginia ran wild on us in 2005 too. We’ve played the spread.

Jeff

July 29th, 2009
2:56 pm

TRUTH,
NICE essay ON YOUR TEAM……BUT the TRUTH is you guys are OVERRATED!!
You WILL not be able to RUN on our D .The BIG 3 in the middle will shut you down….soooo you will have to run WIDE and our LB’s are TOOOO quick.So I guess you will have to PASS…….interceptions.Joe Cox is NOT a freshman….when STAFFORD could’t get it done ,he came to the rescue!

AltamahaDawg

July 29th, 2009
3:03 pm

athensdawg, I agree with you across the board. I tried to find something to dispute but couldn’t. Mark that down. AND good point, I forgot we never had a TE last year.

The fact that an OSU player would even talk about any game in terms of who is, was, or should be “scared” tells me all I need to know about where they are as a program.

DOGGIE IN NC

July 29th, 2009
3:11 pm

Doggies are going to ride them Cowpokes all the way up broke back mountain. By the time Joe finishes with them, they will be calling him “Mule” with the frigg’n they are going to get! GO DOGGIES!

GO DAWGS

July 29th, 2009
3:12 pm

TRADE SCHOOL JUNKIE WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING, PLEASW SHARE !!!!!!!!!!

AltamahaDawg

July 29th, 2009
3:18 pm

I am by no means an expect on the spread BUT why is anyone conceeding that it’s trademark is “faster tempo”. What does that even mean? I alway saw it as speading the field (thus the name) in formations that makes give a QB more options. But spread out or not, the rules still require the players to be set at the time the ball is snapped, does it not. What is this “tempo” that we havent seen before? Grated it take a mobile QB, and maybe that is where that perception comes from. Although I don’t consider Tebow as “fast”. We see fast, mobile QBs all the time. I guess 4 WR would represent overall faster player on the field at the time. But its not like we are trotting over D-lineman to cover them. Oh hell, we werent ready for that tempo!