Two-minute drill: Trustworthy receivers, special tailbacks, more

A few quick reads of interest:

Marc Weiszer of the Athens Banner-Herald talks with UGA receivers coach Tony Ball about how deep the Dogs will go into their corps of six scholarship wide receivers this season. “If you only have two that you trust, you’re only going to play two,” Ball says. “If you have four that you can trust, you’re going to play that four. … You’re going to play players that can help you win. How many is that? You don’t know that until you get going here and see who’s productive and who knows what they’re doing and who you can trust?” He knows one thing, though. Freshmen Marlon Brown and Rantavious Wooten won’t be redshirted because of the lack of depth. “We don’t have a choice,” Ball says. “We can’t get hurt. Simple.” …

Rex Robinson may have been a kicker, but he knows a great running back when he sees one, having been on the 1980 Dawgs. Assessing UGA’s current group of tailbacks, he thinks “it’s sometimes the almost imperceptible move that means the difference.” Knowshon Moreno had it, Robinson says, and he thinks Caleb King, Dontavious Jackson and Washaun Ealey have it. Richard Samuel, he says, “has not shown it at all. He runs like a tall, athletic fullback.” And little Carlton Thomas? “I swear, if he had a couple of inches and pounds on him, I would say hello Heisman in 2011 or 2012.” Robinson thinks tailback-by-committee will be fine “as long as the committee appoints Carlton Thomas to the special teams sub-committee in charge of returns. This kid needs the ball in space. … He will be a difference maker, whether on special teams, bubble screens, reverses or as a decoy.” …

UGA great Bill Stanfill shares some memories with Loran Smith in the Athens Banner-Herald. It was 40 years ago this summer, Smith writes, that Stanfill was invited to play in the old College All-Star Game in Chicago, a prelude to training camp with the Miami Dolphins with whom he would become an all-pro defensive end, having been the first $100,000 defensive player signed in the NFL. “We played the Joe Namath Jets who had upset the Baltimore Colts in the Super Bowl,” Stanfill recalls. “They barely beat us.” (Jets 26, All-Stars, 24). …

In noting that Mark Richt says he doesn’t expect Georgia to again face three nonconference BCS games in a season like they will this year, Paul Westerdawg of the Georgia Sports Blog reports: “A friend in the Athletic Department said there’s virtually no chance” of it happening again. But he adds that the difficulty of this year’s nonconference slate has been overstated: “Arizona State is nothing more than Central Michigan with hotter co-eds.”

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Trey. B

July 27th, 2009
4:09 pm

BS Patrol

July 27th, 2009
4:24 pm

Rex Robinson must have Alzheimer’s.

Uga 13'

July 27th, 2009
4:33 pm

Ha finally first…go dawgs

Uga 13'

July 27th, 2009
4:34 pm

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Ron Mexico

July 27th, 2009
4:34 pm

“Arizona State is nothing more than Central Michigan with hotter co-eds.”

That should make for some interesting locker room propaganda for ASU.

Ron Mexico

July 27th, 2009
4:37 pm

Not only were you not first but I think you have a problem with your screen name….

Uga 13 feet?? I assume you mean Uga 2013 which would be Uga ‘13.

BTW, thanks Goodell, I’m back in the league!!

Dawgs

July 27th, 2009
4:39 pm

Long Dawg

July 27th, 2009
4:51 pm

As far as the receivers, if they can play and give us the best chance to win then they should play regardless of depth. A.J. and Julio didn’t suffer from being freshmen. I think we wil see Orson Charles and Arthur Lynch as well.

I haven’t seen enough of any of those backs to say what they have and don’t have. Carlton Thomas was the most impressive in the Spring game. I have never seen Dontavious carry the ball. Caleb and Richard haven’t shown a lot of elusiveness, vision or power in the few times I have seen them. The coaches sure know the situation better than any of us, including Rex Robinson, so let’s hope these guys live up to their potential this year.

BIGBOY

July 27th, 2009
4:51 pm

Tony Ball has his work cut out for him this year.The talent and potential is there for sure..don’t forget Troupe..but you know something?for some reason at UGA the WR’S seem to play better as freshman than they do as soph and jr’s I have no idea why that is.Goes back to Gibson,Edwards,MoMass hopefully AJ will break this streak.I hate to say it but I have to agree about the running backs…What ANYBODY see’s in Samuel at RB is perplexing to me..he does not look comfortable at all to me.Maybe fullback…remember Henderson?he reminds me more of him than any RB we have had.People are thrusting the Danny Ware,Lars Tate,Lumpkin comparison on the kid but personally I don’t see it…he is similar in size but that’s about it.I still think he can be a great player maybe FB/LB just not RB.I also think at 17 he definitely should have been redshirted.C.Thomas will be a special teams superstar before he leaves UGA.As the starting tailback?I don’t think so..change of pace,special package or something but 15-20 carries a game?probably not.As for the BCS OOC games…we play GT every year anyway..ASU would be in last place of all SEC teams.OK State may be decent but they are not a FLA,ALA,LSU etc,so I really don’t see the big deal.

Habersham Dawg

July 27th, 2009
5:05 pm

Tavarres King will be special.

Georgia On My Mind

July 27th, 2009
5:24 pm

Just read something interesting. Georgia ranks 12th in the nation in returning OL starts. That is a lot of experience on the OL. Florida ranks 77th. I would think the Georgia coaches are planning to run the ball a lot this year behind the OL.

Renegade

July 27th, 2009
5:24 pm

I’m so sick of all this schedule talk. Win the games that are scheduled and quit complaining. The reason that we started scheduling these non-conference games was to gain a little more national noteriety in hopes that it would provide strength-of-schedule on the road to a NC. The same goes for the Florida game. Who cares where the game is played. JUST WIN THE FREAKING GAME and stop arguing about where it is played. Excuses are for losers.

saint simons

July 27th, 2009
5:32 pm

((((( 45 42 ))))) hahahahahahahaha

BKbroila

July 27th, 2009
5:34 pm

Samuel might look uncomfortable, but his avg. per carry was better than anyone else on the team and let’s not forget the fact that the kid was 17 years old last year…he is a monster. He will be fine…He is blazing fast and just needs to hold onto the ball better, but was praised more out of HS than 99% of rushers last year…he has a ton of talent and will show it very soon!

BKbroila

July 27th, 2009
5:36 pm

If florida beats UGA this year and goes 13-0, I hope USC and Texas go undefeated and get into the NC because of how pathetic Florida’s Strengh of Schedule is…..God, I am bitter! Just kidding, I always cheer for SEC when they don’t play in conference…even UF….Go Dawgs!!!

Kendawg

July 27th, 2009
5:42 pm

It will be interesting to see if Samuel has improved this year. As several bloggers have noted, he was only 17 last year. Let’s see what a year of experience and age have done for him.

Rabun Dawg

July 27th, 2009
5:42 pm

With the costs of keeping season tickets these days, I had much rather see us play OOC teams from the BCS rather than see us play the likes of Tenn. Tech, LA. Tech, etc., etc. You also get more national respect playing teams such as OK. St., AZ. St., etc. Would it not be great to get to play the likes of Michigan, Texas, Penn. St. some years? I realize scheduling those type teams would be difficult, but saying it won’t happen ever again( playing 3 BCS OOC teams) is not what I want to hear. Renegade, I agree about where we play the UF game doesn’t matter, just win the darn thing with some regularity. When the Dooley Dogs were whipping up on the Gators I didn’t hear talk about moving the game.

Fire the Coordinators

July 27th, 2009
6:03 pm

Anybody who says Carlton Thomas is not equipped to be an every-down back needs to look no further than Maurice Jones-Drew of the Jacksonville Jaguars. He is the same height as Thomas with about 20 more lbs. In today’s world Thomas could easily put on that weight within 4 years and become a star. In my opinion he has by far the most athletic ability of the backs, but he does need to gain the muscle.

His size will not be what holds him back at Georgia, rather it will be how he is utilized by the coaching staff. Jones-Drew has proved time and time again that being shorter can be a great advantage in shedding tacklers and hiding behind blockers.

45ACP

July 27th, 2009
6:05 pm

Richard Samuel is also a great linebacker. He made some outstanding plays on defence at Cass High. He has the “it” factor. We will have to wait and see “it” plays out in college football.

Denver Dog

July 27th, 2009
6:16 pm

It is a fine line, and I too would rather see good OOC teams for us to play. I would also like to see us play some of the other state schools. It is great to see such interest abound because we are playing some pretty good OOC teams.

Ga/FLA well maybe we could play it Atlanta, at Grant Field, and they would have two sellouts this year, without much of the Old Gold and White being there. In all serousness, play it in JAX and then figure out a better place, but going to to the Ga Dome is not improvement there. I’d bet that if you just left it alone and quit talking about it, most of us wouldn’t evern care. It really never was an issue til Vince left and Dark Visor got there.

Recievers, I think we are better off than some are saying. Great freshmen coming in though they are truly untested. The corp we have did a pretty good job last year when the others were out are hurt.

Play the best schedule which we can play, and in the end the rewards will be ours. We can lose to few good teams and one bad one and still get to the best NonBCS bowl that the conference has. Think about that we lost to Tech on a fluke and still ended up at a better bowl and higher ranked than they were.

Dont pull my chain Dawg

July 27th, 2009
6:56 pm

Big Boy……I agree , Samuel really hasn’t shown me too much either. Remember too the three backs Tate, Warec and Lumpkin in comparison all started out with hype and like a spit ball of fire. Oh yeah even Jasper Stanks. They all were like Ripley’s race horse before they crossed the finish line, Fizzled,Farted then Fell. The Wide Receivers is another story in that can they catch since the spring game? Sure made the defense look good too huh….Will AJ avoid the Sophomore jinx’s or will he be like Fred Gibson and Momass that had down years and didnt really live up to the expectations. Hope the dawgs prove me wrong because Ive really been waiting for a while like many other dawg fans to see this potential come to fruition since CMR has arrived at UGA.

Blind Side

July 27th, 2009
6:59 pm

With this o-line, several great backs, and a relative unknown at QB, what we need to do against OKSt is just like the beginning of the 2007 UGA/Fl game. Cram the ball down their weak D’s throat by running the ball on every play right into the inzone, no inzone celebration, and on our 2nd poss. go 80-something yards with a Cox to Green or Brown pass.

Dawg Tired

July 27th, 2009
7:53 pm

Let’s see – whom do I think has a better understanding of college football and what it takes to be a good player at that level; (1) BS Patrol; or (2) Rex Robinson?

Cuz

July 27th, 2009
8:21 pm

Quick, someone ask Kevin Butler who would be the best running back. Anybody got Coutu’s number?

CHARLOTTE DAWG

July 27th, 2009
9:11 pm

The sleeper: Dontavious Jackson. I always look for the guy nobody is talking about to excel the most. Life is funny like that.

I wish Caleb King the best obviously but his high school injury still seems to be playing with his head. He doesn’t seem to finish runs. Moreno would lower his pads and put his head down and try to deliver as much punishment as he could to the tackler. Remember the Tennessee game? Caleb seems to be running not to get hurt.
And Samuel is blessed with speed and power but does not make the necessary cuts. He also seems to have “no vision” in the backfield.

I think King and Samuel will start against Okie State but as the season progresses, I think you might see Jackson and Thomas in there more and more. Jackson was the #5 RB I believe by rivals out of high school. He’s not exactly chopped liver. If his knee is fully healed, he could be what we need. And if you think small RB’s like Thomas can’t succeed, ask the USC defenders about that 5′6″ back at Oregon State that ran all over them.

Ealey could redshirt unless the others don’t produce. I hope Richt and Staff can keep that guy in school.

Sanford Drive

July 27th, 2009
9:16 pm

Blindside,

It’s “End zone.” Good God.

FL Dawg

July 27th, 2009
10:01 pm

As I recall, Lars Tate was a pretty good back.

Receiving corps will be the difference for us this season. Far more than RB and QB. The running game and the QB will be fine behind the O-line that Searels will have on the field. The O-line just can’t help those receivers catch. Time to man up…and until one of the other receivers step up, Green will be doubled and maybe even tripled covered. Tripled covered…we will be in serious trouble in the receiving corps.

Cuz

July 27th, 2009
10:51 pm

Double coverage sure, triple coverage and we have the Herschel decoy play in the 1982 Clemson game. Dump it to Thomas and he gains twenty.

Cuz

July 27th, 2009
10:53 pm

Lars was a good one dontcha know? Practicing my Minnesottan, they talk funny up there.

Johnny DangerDawg

July 28th, 2009
12:02 am

Thanks for the link to Rex Robinson’s article. Rex said his opinions are based on watching YouTube clips. I would like for him to attend a practice and report back after he’s actually watched the running backs in person.

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July 28th, 2009
2:47 am

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BigGAdawg

July 28th, 2009
6:45 am

I remember last year a reporter asking Knowshon who the fastest RB on the team was and without a moments delay he said Samuel. If he does not quite make it at RB then make him a FB or a Slot Back if he has the hands for it. Get that speed in the open on a slant across the middle etc.

The RB who deserves to be mentioned, but is so rarely, is Daniels. If he played a down last year I did not see it but in the Spring game last year his yards per carry were on par with Knowshon and Caleb. Would like to see him get some carries this year as part of the extended committee.

Another Dawg

July 28th, 2009
8:04 am

I agree that Caleb King isn’t finishing runs. He gets the ball and looks like “Oh, got back to the line of scrimmage, don’t care any more.” He was a fantastic recruit Junior year before he got hurt and between missing his Senior season and redshirting, I think it’s safe to say that he’s just a bust.

That’ll be my stance until I see him doing the hitting.

Doggoneit

July 28th, 2009
8:09 am

St. Simons is a dogs’ fan. He is always reading great articles about the Dogs. Thats awesome! Mr. Simons :)

cursive

July 28th, 2009
9:02 am

Ha ha ha… Central Michigan with hotter co-eds… Classic!

JaxDawg

July 28th, 2009
9:27 am

Why does everyone keep bringing up the drops in the spring game? 2 of the drops came from A.White, 1 was by M.Moore when Mettenberger threw the ball 5 yds like he was zipping it downfield 60yds, not sure many nfl’ers could have caught that one, and 2 were by Vernon Spellman who was playing due to depth issues since the freshmen hadn’t arrived. White made a couple of catches later, as did M.Moore, and Spellman probably won’t see much playing time.

I swear I think some fans just aren’t happy unless there is something to complain about. At least keep complaints to things that are actual issues. The recievers are young and unproven, but this small group may be the most talented group we’ve had in a while. AJ is solid, M.Moore is steady, reports about O.Charles seem to be very positive so it looks like we’ll have a top TE once again. So we only need 1-2 out of T.King, I.Troupe, R.Wooten & M.Brown to step up. I don’t think that will be a problem. As for AJ & the sophmore jinx, go back and compare what he did in his fresh season to MoMass & F.Gibson, it’s not even close. Both were good but still looked raw. AJ on the other hand looked more like an experienced soph or jr. We will be fine in the WR corps and I don’t think drops will be the issue some are trying to make it.

Charlotte Dawg – I think you’re dead on with the RB situation. MoJo Drew & the OreSt RB are good comparrisons to C.Thomas. People always worry about smaller backs being able to take the punishment, but shifty smaller backs can last because it’s a lot harder to get a clean hit on them. Jackson could be the one that emerges, he was tearing it up in practices last year before the injury.

RxDawg

July 28th, 2009
11:23 am

Interesting comment about Richard Samuel. I agree that he doesn’t seem to have a lot of elusiveness. I’ve said before that I feel like he is more of a natural LB then a RB. I remember some recruiting interview that talked about how much he liked to hit too. I’m sure there is a reason the coaches want him in at RB though.

1eyedJack

July 28th, 2009
11:51 am

I seem to remember during the recruitment of Samuels that most services rated him a better linebacker than running back. Maybe if one or two of the other RBs works out we might think of moving him to LB???

chazzo

July 29th, 2009
5:06 pm

It dawns on me, UGA could have a bruiser squad. Line that new TE up at receiver. Put in Samuel. There’s already Chapas and Munzenmeir. Line ‘em up and tell them to hit somebody hard. Then put in the speed squad with Logan Gray and Carlton Thomas and the new kid that’s slated to play D and O. There is a lot of potential.