What’s the verdict on Stafford?

David Hale of the Bulldogs Blog makes a good point about the way UGA fans feel about departed QB Matthew Stafford: “I’d be willing to wager there isn’t a player in recent history Georgia fans are more split on than Stafford … People either love him or hate him.”

Hale thinks that comes from Stafford’s inconsistency throughout much of his career. That’s certainly a factor,  but I believe the level of hype that accompanied Stafford’s arrival in Athens guaranteed that anything less than an SEC and even national championship during his time behind center would be viewed as disappointing.

As I’ve said here before, Stafford and Knowshon Moreno might have been the most talented quarterback-tailback tandem UGA has ever had, but they’ll probably never enter the pantheon of Bulldog immortals because they left school early without achieving what the Bulldog Nation expected of them.

What’s your take on Stafford? The most talented Georgia QB ever? An overrated player with a cannon for an arm but not much else? A potentially great quarterback who never quite fulfilled his promise before heading off to a lucrative pro career?

I wonder if those who dismiss Stafford’s UGA career now will feel differently about him if he wins a Super Bowl down the road.

221 comments Add your comment

Dawgdays

June 24th, 2009
2:05 pm

Dawgdays

June 24th, 2009
2:06 pm

too early to say, I would say that his pro career would influence your decision either way…

Scott

June 24th, 2009
2:20 pm

My thoughts are here…www.im-thinking19.blogspot.com

old gold engineer

June 24th, 2009
2:24 pm

None of my business, but just out of curiosity, does anyone know how close Stafford and Moreno were to graduating? And Bill, as a college sports fan (although not really a UGA fan), I appreciate the prolific blogging of late.

And the answer (opinion) is:

June 24th, 2009
2:27 pm

They will never enter the pantheon of Bulldog immortals because they left school early without achieving what the Bulldog Nation expected of them.

ghost dawg

June 24th, 2009
2:27 pm

best we ever had. What is over looked is how much improvement he showed every season he played., He would have a stellar senior season had he stayed A major loss for us when you look at the weapons he would have had in the freshman coming in.

Mac

June 24th, 2009
2:28 pm

He was a talented player, who worked hard, and wasn’t the second coming of Superman. I’m glad he was a Dawg and wish him success at the next level.

CDawg42

June 24th, 2009
2:30 pm

Better than decent but give me David Greene any day to win a big game.

Too Easy

June 24th, 2009
2:33 pm

Overworked topic.

Old Dawg

June 24th, 2009
2:36 pm

I was disappointed he left after his junior year. Not just because he would have been great for UGA, but too many QBs who don’t play four years of college ball are flops in the NFL. He had some great games, especially Auburn his freshman year, but he didn’t lead very well in the third quarter agains Tech last year.

Overall, a great talent, but inconsistencies in personal and OLine production limit my appreciation for Stafford as a Bulldog. I wish him well in the NFL.

Class of '98

June 24th, 2009
2:36 pm

Greatest ever? No. Most talented? Certainly. He didn’t win enough to be the greatest ever, but I’m proud of him and wish him the best.

Blackberry Cobbler

June 24th, 2009
2:36 pm

Has the arm to be a very good NFL quarterback. At UGA, he never had the offensive line needed to realize his full potential. At UGA, it was better last season but for the most part was plagued by receivers who dropped way too many passes.

Okefenokee Dawg

June 24th, 2009
2:37 pm

I don’t care for blogs that invite negative comments about players – past or present.

Money

June 24th, 2009
2:38 pm

O-line sucked…enough said…I want to cry when I think about all that the Dawgs could have accomplished had our line not been so beat up last year…

BruffDawg

June 24th, 2009
2:39 pm

He will be remembered for what he was. A 5 star prospect who gave us great expectations that were never quite met. Good or bad, that will be his legacy. If he wins a superbowl it will be as a pro.

pensacola dawg

June 24th, 2009
2:40 pm

Old Gold
what a stupid question can you say forty nine million…dah

grid_Fe

June 24th, 2009
2:40 pm

I think he is the most talented QB that Georgia has ever had. Unfortunately for him, he was never provided with enough good players to lift Georgia to a championship. He threw to mediocre WRs most of the time that he was there. The best offensive line that he had was as a freshman, and they were nothing to write home about. I think Stafford did a great job despite the shortcomings of the team around him.

gomdawg

June 24th, 2009
2:43 pm

Stafford could have been the best QB to play at Georgia but he went Pro . So lets get on with 2009 season , Bring on Oklahoma State “GO DAWGS.”

I wish Stafford success...

June 24th, 2009
2:43 pm

…and at the same time wish he had been more successful here – if you call 31 – 9 (I think) “unsuccessful”. Still, I would say he was above average, at best, though not anywhere near superstar status though he could still win that Super Bowl down the road. But, just like P. Manning and M. Jordan, his college career will always be considered “above average” and not spectacular because he did not lead the team to the promised land, despite all the hype.

Regarding Moreno, he, too, was above average. But nothing spectacular. And he did himself no favors by taking himself out everytime he got tired (which seemed to coincide with everytime he got them inside the 20 yard line) until he got called out on it late in the season. And, I will never forget how he allowed the UF linebacker to stuff him on the first carry last year, because he freakin’ stopped running and made the hit look much more than it was, and then let the guy lay on him to rub it in – which set the tone for the rest of the day! He lost much respect in that game, in my estimation!

I wish Stafford success...

June 24th, 2009
2:46 pm

…and, yes, I know Jordan led UNC to a NC his freshman year – what I meant was he was NOT Michael Jordan until he got to the pro’s!

Dan

June 24th, 2009
2:47 pm

I think he is a good quarterback but I would also take David Greene. Greene may not have have the ability that Stafford has but he certainly had more intangibles…

bull-gator

June 24th, 2009
2:48 pm

He was a good college QB with a rocket for an arm. From my limited perspective he exhibited questionable leadership skills. It seems to me it was all about Stafford, not the team. Maybe it was the offensive line, the play calling, dropped passes on critical downs or a combination of all three, but the hype never materialized in the way of championships. He’s a cut below Fran, Buck, and Eric.

Varsity Veteran

June 24th, 2009
2:50 pm

Aaaaahhhh, here we are…once again.

All the hand-wringing over the “unrealized potential” and “unfulfilled promises.” And, all the fleabag fans squabbling over…”Where’s my GD ring” Staffy ?????

Neither Staford nor Moreno gave a rats azz about UGA, or the fans. They were there just to try to get to the next level. It showed in their play. No passion, no heart, no leadership. Stafford was well known on campus for “brushing off” fellow students and fans. Paycheck players like Stafford DONT MAKE IN THE NFL. Neither do “soft” RBs like Moreno. The guy just cant take a hit. Seriously.

Think that sounds crazy? Just compare Tebow as a “Florida” guy to Stafford as a “Georgia” guy. No comparison really, on or off the field.

Varsity Veteran

June 24th, 2009
2:54 pm

NFL veterans wont take kindly to a rookie QB with a “paycheck” attitude.

Staff is gonna get BU-LASTED in Detroit.

Will

June 24th, 2009
2:55 pm

great QB, terrible leader, thought arm strength could make up for a lot….he was wrong.

RxDawg

June 24th, 2009
2:56 pm

“Hale thinks that comes from Stafford’s inconsistency throughout much of his career. That’s certainly a factor, but I believe the level of hype that accompanied Stafford’s arrival in Athens guaranteed that anything less than an SEC and even national championship during his time behind center would be viewed as disappointing.”

This. Part is his fault because of turnovers. But mostly it’s because of special teams and defense, the other 2/3 of the team.

E

June 24th, 2009
2:58 pm

Uh, what about David Greene? Winningest starting QB in College Football History. If we measure greatness on wins, is there even a discussion to be had here?

southgadawg88

June 24th, 2009
2:58 pm

It is a bit of a shame we never got to see Stafford with a solid line and good WR’s.I thought he played his best last season even though he took more hits than he ever had at UGA.Kinda reinforces the notion that in the end it is a “team” sport …sometimes you have great players but the team is lacking in enough areas to fall short of greatness.I wish him well,he came to play every time he took the field and did nothing to discredit himself or the University during his time at UGA..he was a DGD.

UGA4Life

June 24th, 2009
2:59 pm

People that say they would take Greene over Stafford or sick! Put Stafford on the teams that Greene had and UGA would have a National Championship! Greene was overrated with a great team around him and Stafford is underrated with a average team around him.

Dorsey Hill

June 24th, 2009
3:00 pm

He should be remembered as the most gifted QB that every played at Georgia whose development and success was hindered by the lack of an adequate supporting cast. He should be remembered as the only #1 NFL pick we’ve had in my memory at least. (I think maybe Trippi is the only other #1 overall.) He will likely be the first NFL All-Pro QB from UGA since Tarkenton. Had the OL remained healthy, the TE position been adequately manned and a decent back up to Moreno been developed in ‘08, we may have had a very special year. I only hope that Aaron Murray will be able to show what UGA can be when all the pieces are there. If we can get a couple of quality DT’s signed up in Feb. and get some production from the TB position our future is very bright.

bushwacker

June 24th, 2009
3:08 pm

I think Stafford is going to be the next Marino or Elway in the NFL once he leaves Detroit, but its hard to argue against Eric Zier as the greatest Bulldog QB.

bigdawg01

June 24th, 2009
3:11 pm

He was a really good QB, but if he had stayed and played with a better o-line, things could be different, but oh well. He stated that he wanted the fastest way to the NFL, and he did just that.

Staffords biggest knock will be inconsistent throws…more so over throwing the receiver, but BY GOD when he was on target he was masterful. I wish him success, and cant wait to see him throw again.

However, he was not the best. I too would take Greene, who had the best fake in the game.

E

June 24th, 2009
3:14 pm

I am not saying that Greene was a better physical specimen than Stafford. But you can’t give Stafford the golden ticket because he “didn’t have the supporting cast” HUH? MoMass, Knowshon, AJ Green. I guess those aren’t enough weapons for Stafford. Maybe the TEAM was better when Greene played but you can’t discount what Greene did as a leader. Stafford never had that leadership quality. So to answer Bill’s question, UGA’s greatest quarterback for ME is the person who the most games for UGA, and that is David Greene. Will Stafford have the better overall career, including NFL experience? Well all he has to do is start one game in the NFL and the answer will be yes, but David is still better as a UGA QB, results don’t lie.

Detroit & Michigan Are Bankrupt

June 24th, 2009
3:16 pm

If you look at all of the past examples of “grossly-over-hyped” junior or senior QBs taking as #1 Draft Pick, they have ALL crahsed & burned.

As an athelete, he sucked. His attitude sucked. His leadership sucked. His decision-making sucked. All this talk of “arm-strength” is pure BS.
He sucked on the field, and off the field. The guy is HOLLOW.

Stafford is a prima-donna who’s gonna get mauled in Detroit.

The hype will crash and burn, B-A-D-L-Y in Detroit.

bigdawg01

June 24th, 2009
3:16 pm

Stafford was not a leader at all. However, the 08 team was full of followers, no one lead.

GT Class of 97

June 24th, 2009
3:16 pm

Here is my vote- an overrated player with a cannon for an arm but not much else. He has got millions and millions of reasons not to care, though. But anyone who thinks he lived up to the hype is smokin some serious crack. I think its funny to read comments from people saying he didn’t have enough talent around him to succeed. Really? ehhh, really? Look at all of the great RB’s, TE’s and WR’s he’s played with. I’m pretty sure that there were a lot of better college QB’s that didn’t have as much talent to work with.. Joe Hamilton comes to mind.

Moose

June 24th, 2009
3:19 pm

I feel the same way Varsity Veteran. I don’t think Stafford or Moreno gave Dawg fan’s what we deserved, especially Moreno, look at how he took himself outta games at crucial times(08 Ga-Fla). I feel like they thought they were above the rest of the team, just look at their play in 07 , they dominated the game then when The Bulldawg Nation embraces them and is really counting on them to help UGA win a NC, they show us what UGA meant to them. Nothing. They both walked around like they were larger than life, like they were the only 2 on the team. Compare them to Green and Pollack, they got the same kind of praise, but they never slacked off, they both played their hearts out, gave it everything they had on every down. It was all about getting to the next level for Staff and Moreno, trying not to get hurt so they could get their payday. I don’t feel like either one of them will be remembered here in 4 or 5 years, because in my opinion other than have a few great games at Ga, thay really haven’t done anything worth remembering. And another thing even though Stafford got that huge signing bonus for being the #1 pick, I had to pay extra $$ to get his autograph on a Ga helmet and then more $$ to have it signed to me. The only reason I paid the extra $$ was because he was the #1 pick in the draft and not because he was from UGA.

GT Class of 97

June 24th, 2009
3:19 pm

I am a little surprised that Cooter aka Uncle Jessie is writing this type of negative blog on his beloved Dawgs. I see you still haven’t gotten rid of the Sally Jesse Raphael glasses, Bill.

bushwacker

June 24th, 2009
3:19 pm

Oh yea, forgot about David Greene, but I agree, he had great players around him, Stafford and a great RB but mediocre talent everywhere else, and a defense that wasn’t very good and cost them more wins than anything else.

Ben Roethlisberger

June 24th, 2009
3:20 pm

There’s no friggin way that some candy-ass junior year rookie QB in Detroit is getting paid more than me. I’ve got two Super Bowl rings.

Halsey

June 24th, 2009
3:20 pm

Stafford worked hard, stayed out of trouble, and just represented the University well. Fans that hate him are idiots. Not only did he do well as a Bulldog, but he brought a lot of national attention to the program by having a good career and getting drafted #1 overall. High School QB’s looking for a place to go will take into consideration the fact the a UGA went #1 overall. Stafford is part of the reason UGA was able to go into Florida and get Aaron Murray. He’s also part of the reason a guy from Cali like Nick Montana would look at UGA.

SEC

June 24th, 2009
3:21 pm

The reason Stafford left was simply the money. His only QB competition was Mark Sanchez a one year starter. really? This next draft will have bradford and mccoy. For him personally and financially it was a smart move. Kid had a ton of talent but i really just dont think his heart was at UGA his junior year.

Tom Brady

June 24th, 2009
3:22 pm

Shut Up, Ben. I own you.

There’s no friggin way you or this Stafford punk deserve more then me.

Hell, I…AM…THE…NFL…you bunch of pretenders.

John

June 24th, 2009
3:22 pm

He’ll always be a Bulldawg and we don’t forget that. I’m glad he came, but…
But he won’t be up there with the legends. For better or worse, QB’s are measured by championships. He got zilch. And left the team with a loss to Tech. Brutal.

I think he had more raw talent than any other guy in recent history, but his heart was always at the next level. Sometimes he reminded me of the “one-and-done” college basketball players.

GT Class of 97

June 24th, 2009
3:22 pm

Bushwacker, how about AJ Green and Massaquoi? I think they’re pretty good. And aren’t some of his old TE’s in the NFL now. Which would make them pretty good.

Broad Street Al

June 24th, 2009
3:25 pm

Moose: Suckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!

Huh?

June 24th, 2009
3:26 pm

Great quarterback. Worked hard. Made some boneheaded throws every now and then, but most of all was a great asset to the team. He will be missed and would and would have had a dominant senior season at the college level, but you cannot fault him for taking the NFL money. If you do I would submit that you are a total flipping hypocrite, with all due respect of course. You would have done the same thing if you were in his shoes.

Stafford was what he was. There’s no need for this “greatest ever or total bust?” nonsense. Please leave that to the crappy AJC writers Bill. You’re better than that.

Best GA QB Trick

June 24th, 2009
3:29 pm

Eric Zeier: Master of physcial flexibility.

Managed to put his foot in his mouth…all the way up to his hip.

45-42 mutts. LOL

Can't remeber all of them

June 24th, 2009
3:31 pm

Don’t want to say “over-rated” but he never had the BIG drive … never put the team on his back and won it … D. Greene at Tennessee & Auburn, Johnson at TECH, Lastinger at Texas.

Another Yellow Jacket

June 24th, 2009
3:32 pm

Zeier, Green, Shockley- all 3 were better than Stafford at UGA.

RAMBLE ON!!!

June 24th, 2009
3:35 pm

The verdict is we need term limits on all politicans!!!

oh, wrong blog.

SIR PAUL IS COMING, SIR PAUL IS COMING!!!

And I’m not talking about Paul Johnson either.

Dawgdog

June 24th, 2009
3:39 pm

How could any UGA fan hate him? The guy went out every game and played his best. He never played behind a good OL, but he still made plays. Love him or hate him????? You love him if he is playing for your team and hate him if he is on the other side line.

Reggie Ball fan

June 24th, 2009
3:39 pm

Seems like there are more Techies here lately. They must be spending more time inside since it’s dangerous to be outside around that campus!

7-2 this century, nerd! hahaha!

Moose

June 24th, 2009
3:40 pm

I agree Broad Street Al. I was an all day sucker that day, you live and learn. I have Pollack, Shock and Green and didn’t have to pay $$ for theirs and they will be remembered a helluva lot longer than Staff or Moreno, which I wouldn’t pay 50 cent for Moreno, he should be honored any UGA fan would want it.lol

Reggie Ball sack

June 24th, 2009
3:42 pm

1-0 under Paul Johnson, redneck.

Guys, please don't tell my mom I'm blogging and not studying for my Tech exam; she won't cut the crust off my sandwich

June 24th, 2009
3:43 pm

Don’t hate the guy, but give me David Greene any day. He WON, which is what makes you the greatest ever. Sure, the line was banged up but let’s not immortalize him yet.

Coach Paul Johnson just got mugged outside of the stadium

June 24th, 2009
3:45 pm

Enter your comments here

Otto

June 24th, 2009
3:45 pm

I do agree with Huh? this time. What happened is done. I wish him the best in the NFL and if I were in his shoes I’d go to the NFL as well. I would not risk a career ending injury or your stock falling in the draft with that much money on the table even as a lifetime UGA fan.

Nothing But The Truth

June 24th, 2009
3:49 pm

Stafford will do great in the NFL. He is a hardworker with plenty of talent. It is hard to say if Stafford would have been better than Greene had he stayed longer, but I would put Greene as #1 of all time for UGA..

RAMBLE ON!!!

June 24th, 2009
3:50 pm

Since our UGAg graduate blogger is on a 2 week vacation, we got no place to go.

Chris Boggs has a job, so he only post about once a month.

gtfanfrom1951

June 24th, 2009
3:50 pm

How about Ray Goff he was QB on NC team. No other UGA QB can say that!

gbal

June 24th, 2009
3:50 pm

I am not much on a blog that envites critisim our DAWGS… Surely there is something else??? Myybe cut back on the blog topics if we have to go here.

BESIDES>>>>>

You dont pick on kids who are out there doing their best…. If you want to point someone out, try the coaches… They are real men!

Familiar/

Stafford

June 24th, 2009
3:51 pm

You bunch of hicks dont deserve to wash my jock.

Life is sweet here in Detroit. WTF? Was that gunfire?

Hey look, the mall across from my condo is on fire. Cool.

Wow, Detroit is happening!!

blackout_dawg

June 24th, 2009
3:52 pm

This is the last time I will post about this topic.

Stafford never made me feel as if he was the leader. Great individual talent, but not great for the team. I was ok with him leaving or staying. If he stayed, he would have gotten better, but in my opinion we will be fine without him.

Knowshown I could not have asked for more. Always played with passion. A little bit of a showboat but not really taunting the defender. He did disappear from time to time, but with the risk of playing RB, I understand him leaving.

With Stafford going #1 he made the right decision as well.

Asher Allen not so much. He NEEDED another year.

Dan

June 24th, 2009
3:52 pm

A comparison of Stafford leaving UGA to Tebow staying at UF is misleading. Given what the overwhelming majority of NFL teams still want in a QB, Stafford leaving UGA early was not unexpected. Tebow, for all his prolific hybrid skills, is not a “conventional offense” QB; there’s a reason his coach was doing more conventional under-center, drop-back play scheming this past spring and more is planned for the coming season for the Gators. (Yes, some of it is for beneft of Tebow’s presumed successor; however, it’s no secret that it’s being done now, in part, also to showcase Tebow as having potential as an NFL QB.)

Ryan

June 24th, 2009
3:52 pm

I feel losing Knowshon will hurt more than losing Stafford. Early on I wasn’t that impressed with Matt. Myself and my family believed Joe Cox was the better of the two Matt’s first year. Sure Matt had that cannon of an arm, but what good will that do if you overthrow the receiver by 20 yards. Stafford did show improvement each year though. From a developement standpoint he should’ve stayed for his senior year. I can understand why he left early though and don’t blame him. He definately got the larger payday with his choice. Knowshon on the other hand…I don’t get it.

DoveDawg

June 24th, 2009
3:52 pm

Matthew Stafford was a great Georgia QB who did alot for the Georgia program. He should not be thought of less just because he opted for the NFL a year before graduation. I believe that some of the Georgia fan base, and some of the media reporters are wrong in trying to blame Matthew for the Dawgs 10-3 season. It was a very good season, certainly not what we had hoped for, but there were alot of factors, primarily the injuries. So let’s get off this blame game, appreciate both Matthew and Knowshon for the great athletes and Bulldogs they are and were, and move on to another wonderful year with the Dawgs!

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
3:54 pm

SEC is overrated. Big 12 is real college football.

RAMBLE ON!!!

June 24th, 2009
3:56 pm

Coach Johnson almost got mugged, but Roddy Jones moved him 16.5 yards from the attempt.

Seems they tried to arm tackle him or something.

Otto

June 24th, 2009
3:57 pm

Big 12 is the 2nd best Conf. Look at the BCS title game and the Cotton Bowl. The SEC beat 2 of the 3 Big 12 South Co champs.

gtfanfrom1951

June 24th, 2009
3:57 pm

Sorry that was in 1980 UGA won NC with Hershel.

Reggie Ball sack

June 24th, 2009
3:59 pm

blackout_dawg- Thanks for letting us know that this is the last time you will post on this topic. That really helped me to focus in and soak up all of the knowledge you shared later in your post.

Reggie Ball sack

June 24th, 2009
4:01 pm

I love all of the groundbreaking news from UGA fans that the Tech campus is bordered by some unsafe neighborhoods. You mean you can actually get mugged near downtown Atlanta?? Wow, that is crazy.

Bernie

June 24th, 2009
4:01 pm

Stafford’s a great talent, but falls WELL short of being the best the best Dawg at his position. He didn’t even win a championship.

I don’t care if Stafford wins 10 Super Bowls…Greene was much better.

Lets be honest

June 24th, 2009
4:03 pm

My dearest nerds… funny how you guys are on ALWAYS on UGA blogs i.e. “RAMBLE ON”. I know your program isn’t as intresting as UGAs so you guys have nothing better to do other than come onto UGA blogs and talk about your 1 hit wonder. I think I smell jealousy and envy. YOU KNOW that I KNOW that you WISH your program was a fraction as good as UGA. And no, Stafford was not the greatest. Very talented with a very very good arm. CMR vs GT… 7-1. Enough said. Geek!!

Otto

June 24th, 2009
4:04 pm

Don’t gete Moreno?

Arian Foster was a projected first rounder last year. He stays another year and goes undrafted this year. If Moreno has one injury he could pass up millions of dollars. Sadly I have to agree with his decision to leave early.

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:05 pm

SEC fans are living in the past. Auburn, TENN, LSU, are all on the downside. If it wasn’t for Florida SEC would be at the same level as the Big 10.

Reggie Ball sack

June 24th, 2009
4:07 pm

Again, lets be honest, Paul Johnson is 1-0 against UGA, redneck. And yes, I’m sure we are green with envy as we watched UGA’s football program deteriorate last year as ours was on the upswing. I think we tune in for a good laugh at all the necks on this blog talking about next year. That is what UGA fans do best, talk about next year.

Reggie Ball sack

June 24th, 2009
4:10 pm

Tell me how good you QB is going to be next year! The one who has never taken a meaningful snap in college.. Or what about Caleb King and the others? Or how UGA is going to thrive with the running back by committee after your starter was drafted in the 1st round? You guys just reload, right? uh huh.

Nothing But The Truth

June 24th, 2009
4:11 pm

Nothing but the fat boy, is nothing but full of S*%!.
SEC is college football. It is not our fault the best teams are all in one conference and beat each other up every single year.

Go eat another Krystal fatty!

Lets be honest

June 24th, 2009
4:12 pm

1-0… Wow. CMR 7-1 BWAHAHAHAHA!! I thought you guys were SUPPOSE to be smart. LOL

Coach Paul Johnson just got mugged outside of the stadium

June 24th, 2009
4:13 pm

UGA fans always talk about next year????This coming from a tech nerd???Your program on the upswing???Win 10 games in a real division and beat us consecutive years and then come back and talk.

RAMBLE ON!!!

June 24th, 2009
4:14 pm

Lets be honest, Even you are entitled to my opinion. Not that you’ve earned it or anything.

Paul Johnson, 1-0 vs UGAg with a bunch of freshmen and sophomores, against all those “Stars”.

Oh yeah, we’re really jealous.

uga_b

June 24th, 2009
4:14 pm

I will just point this out: these 2 players’ “TEAM” finished Number 2 in the NATION as sophomores. I believe that is the 2nd highest finish this team has EVER had. LOL.

Coach Paul Johnson just got mugged outside of the stadium

June 24th, 2009
4:15 pm

Your option will be shut down by midseason along with your cro-magnon coach. Thank god and greyhound for getting rid of CPJ!!! BWWWWAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:16 pm

Attention UGA Fans: You know, when you were a baby in your crib, your father looked down at you, he had but one hope – some day my son will grow to be a man. Well look at you now. You just got your asses whipped by a bunch of goddamn nerds. Nerds! Well, if I was you, I’d do something about it. I would get up and redeem myself in the eyes of my father, my maker, and my coach!

Reggie Ball sack

June 24th, 2009
4:17 pm

Yes, UGA fans always talk about next year and have delusions of grandeur about being the NC hunt. Everyone on the planet realizes it except for ignorant Dawg fans. I love how you are questioning the fact that the GT football program is on the upswing. I guess you must have been held hostage by Somalian pirates since Paul Johnson arrived on campus. And as for beating you consecutive years I would reply: that is exactly what we plan to do.

turkey

June 24th, 2009
4:20 pm

David Greene had the brains and Stafford the physical ability. If you could put Greene’s head on Stafford’s body, just imagine the player he could have become.

Long Dawg

June 24th, 2009
4:20 pm

I’d take D.J Shockley any day.
Has Tech sold any tickets to any of their games yet for 2009 yet? I heard they had to hire an outside company to sell tickets and no donation needed for season tickets. What a joke of a program.

Nothing But The Truth

June 24th, 2009
4:21 pm

Overall Record Georgia leads, 59-39-5

GT cant protect their students or their QB.

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:21 pm

Which one of the dumps of a stadium is the UGA vs GT game being played this year?

Paul Johnson is your daddy

June 24th, 2009
4:22 pm

My money is on Paul Johnson against the mugger. Same goes for Paul Johnson against St. Richt.

Coach Paul Johnson just got mugged outside of the stadium

June 24th, 2009
4:23 pm

Beat us consective years: WHAT YOUR ARE PLANNING TO DO NEXT YEAR, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, ALL YOU DO IS TALK ABOUT IT!!!!!!!WE TALK ABOUT THE NC HUNT; YOU ONLY TALK ABOUT BEATING US!!!!pathetic.

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:23 pm

What if you could put Greene’s head on Stafford’s body with sugar on top. Wouldn’t that be sweet !!!!!

Lets be honest

June 24th, 2009
4:24 pm

The 1 and ONLY. GT. Make sure you bring a glock and leave the women and children at home. LOL

E

June 24th, 2009
4:25 pm

All the tech nerds on this blog have Pen1s envy.

TampaDawg

June 24th, 2009
4:26 pm

I think Stafford and Moreno showed they weren’t playing for the “G” on their helmet. They were thinking about themselves. Loyalty flew out the window. They had one of the best offensive lines in the coutnry coming back. The $$ would’ve been there after next year. I just think its sad. And don’t say “that’s not fair to say about them, you’re not in their shoes”. Bottom line they showed us what’s more important to them. I say we stop talking about them and move on to Joe Cox and the Dawgs this year. This years team will play with more heart and passion than last year’s, mark it down.

GT, where nerds get shot and robbed everyday

June 24th, 2009
4:26 pm

You nerds need to be worried about getting mugged on the Flats.

BIG DAWG

June 24th, 2009
4:26 pm

as far as stafford goes, third best…behind greene and zeier…we are talking college career right? and i’m pretty sure that our qb can count to 4.. now go engineer some more carpet fibers or something.

Little Dog

June 24th, 2009
4:26 pm

Hey little dog, I just paid my donation for GT season tickets and we outsourced our whole ticket department. So stop talking that garbage. I will take our joke of a program over yours right now. And for the foreseeable future. You guys hate it that the tides have turned, don’t you? Tell me about how good Cox is going to be! He should be a Heisman candidate according to UGA fans. Stupid is as stupid does.

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:27 pm

Nerds vs Rednecks…..We’re talking football not Halo and fishing !

GT, where nerds get shot and robbed everyday

June 24th, 2009
4:27 pm

Reggie Ball-sack, nice name, is that a place you frequent often?

gtforever

June 24th, 2009
4:29 pm

UGA fans, You just have to wonder how they make it through the day…….

GT Nerd

June 24th, 2009
4:30 pm

People have been getting mugged at Tech for years and years, its part of the tradition. I love how this is a breaking news flash.

BIG DAWG

June 24th, 2009
4:30 pm

i know the mugger down on the flats, he’s a backup d-lineman there at tech.

Reggie Ball sack

June 24th, 2009
4:32 pm

No, a sack is something Mark Richt wishes he had.

Sanjaya and Rosie O'Donell Love GT

June 24th, 2009
4:32 pm

The dawgs are going to destroy Tech this year. You nerds cannot win two in a row.

dbc

June 24th, 2009
4:32 pm

I, for one, won’t miss seeing Stafford throw the ball 80 yards down the field and ten yards over the receivers head. I also won’t miss seeing him drill a receiver with an uncatchable bullet from five yards away. Or how about throwing a pick six from his own endzone? Hopefully, this year Bobo will focus on moving the chains instead of the low percentage quick strike. I think of Joe Cox as David Greene with more intensity. IMO Greene set the standard.

jdizzle

June 24th, 2009
4:34 pm

STAFFORD = RYAN LEAF…Just another stong arm, over-hyped, bad decision making punk who will not amount to anything in the pros, just like he FAILED in college. STAFFORD = FAIL, LIONS = FAIL, SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD COMBO

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:34 pm

Stafford is from Texas. Where real football is played. He’ll be great in the NFL.

Reggie Ball sack

June 24th, 2009
4:35 pm

Big Dawg, there actually was an off campus mugging by a player years ago, but it was the O-line. There are always some bad apples everywhere.. its nice to know that UGA runs such a clean, classy, Christian program where no athletes get involved in criminal activities. Uh huh. Right.

RAMBLE ON!!!

June 24th, 2009
4:35 pm

That’s all you do fleabag is talk about NC!!!

TALK, TALK, TALK don’t you think it’s about time to WALK, WALK, WALK about a NC?

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:37 pm

What does NC stand for?

Nerds rule

June 24th, 2009
4:37 pm

I bet Willie Martinez’s D gets mugged this year in Atlanta. Joe Cox for Heisman!

Sanjaya and Rosie O'Donell Love GT

June 24th, 2009
4:38 pm

Nick Cannon. He is a tool and a Tech fan too

Nerds rule

June 24th, 2009
4:40 pm

Nothing but the frat boy- NC stands for National Championship. In the case of the Bulldogs, it stands for “No Chance”, “National Chumps”, or “Next Choke”

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:41 pm

Cox & Ball. I wonder if they are friends.

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:42 pm

I though NC stood for Nice Cooter

Dawggoneit

June 24th, 2009
4:43 pm

Joe Cox is the best! He will win the Heisman, write it down. Lets go Cox!! We can’t lose with our new backfield. Mark it down.

uuugh.

June 24th, 2009
4:44 pm

Stafford certainly wasn’t the greatest at Georgia…but he wasn’t the Jeff George a lot of you clowns make him out to be either. Bill shouldn’t invite the harsh statements by posting this crap either. It is hard enough to have a positive, constructive discussion on these blogs because of all of the tech idiots…but to invite ire from our own folks is just wrong.

Bad blog today Bill…and thanks for taking away from the exchange techies!

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:46 pm

Who’s Bill? Is he the guy in the picture?

Dawggoneit

June 24th, 2009
4:46 pm

Yeah, uuugh, you guys never comment on our blogs. uh huh. Joe Cox for Heisman!! He’s going to be the best ever!

Dawggoneit

June 24th, 2009
4:47 pm

Yes, that is Bill in the picture with the Sally Jesse Raphael glasses. He is the illegimate love child of Uncle Jessie and Cooter.

Peach Pie

June 24th, 2009
4:47 pm

Great talent, certainly, but a winner? Not quite. He had too many misses within the 20-yard line. Great quarterbacks consistently show leadership, through good times and bad.

I got your cox right here!

June 24th, 2009
4:48 pm

Joe Cox for Heisman! Caleb King for runner up!! woof, woof.

BIG DAWG

June 24th, 2009
4:50 pm

mr.ballsack, i never said stuff doesn’t happen in athens, but according to most nerds, gt is the cleanest program in the country. glad to hear you tell it like it is. i know a few guys that played at tech, and they still couldn’t tell you who the 16th president was….and that’s an easy one.

Best in state

June 24th, 2009
4:51 pm

to be the best, you gotta beat the best. Space mountain, baby!! Whoooo!! come and get our state title belts, beotches! Try not to get mugged on your way to Atlanta.

DawgTruth

June 24th, 2009
4:51 pm

I think he will be remembered as a great quarterback with poor leadership skills who put the programs ambitions 2nd to his own.

uuugh.

June 24th, 2009
4:52 pm

Dawggoneit: I posted yesterday for the first and last time. I was investigating whether or not you had your own blog or were forced to be on ours…I believe my post went something like this: “So you do have a blog of your own…Good for you guys!”

I’ll not go back now that the mystery is solved. I am sorry that we have people wrecking your blog!

BIG DAWG

June 24th, 2009
4:53 pm

not friends just neighbors………

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
4:53 pm

I’ll give a hundred dollars to anyone who can tell me who Tech’s QB is this year. Do they still use a quarterback. Their offense reminds me of my first day at Pee Wee football.

David

June 24th, 2009
4:54 pm

With the Detroit Lions we are to expect a world championship?
He will probably spend the rest of his career on his back.
He could fill up the stats, just couldn’t win any championships.
I still think he was a great kid and I am glad to see him get paid.

TechGrad08

June 24th, 2009
4:55 pm

Stafford is a very talented QB, but I can’t really recall him winning many big games (07 Alabama in OT comes to mind). His best game statistically was against Tech last year but that will be forgotten. That being said, he definitely made the right choice by leaving early and getting his huge contract. Maybe Detroit will win some games this year but I don’t think he is the second coming of Matt Ryan.

BIG DAWG

June 24th, 2009
4:56 pm

met some of staffords family at the beach this weekend, says that he’s been studying film with troy aikman almost daily, for whatever its worth..

Best in state

June 24th, 2009
4:58 pm

fat boy, so our high school offense is now a pee wee offense? How does it feel to get beat by an 80 lb team, you idiot?

Jack Lord

June 24th, 2009
4:58 pm

Come November, our Cox will beat your Johnson. Book it Dano.

Milledgeville DAWG

June 24th, 2009
4:59 pm

As a lifelong fan, who really cares? Lets talk about 09 with Joe Cox and company.

Best in state

June 24th, 2009
5:00 pm

Here is something I think we can all agree on: it will be fun watching Stafford throw to Calvin in Detroit! I hope Stafford lives up to the hype so Calvin can finally know what its like to play with a real QB.

Long Dawg

June 24th, 2009
5:02 pm

Tech outsourced the program because they can’t give away tickets. Can’t fill the stadium except when they play Georgia. GT lives for one game each year- Georgia. Your entire programs view of itself is based on the Georgia Game. That’s toobad because we own you. Always have and always will.

BIG DAWG

June 24th, 2009
5:02 pm

they said all was going according to plan, go to uga(for 3 yrs), learn from CMR(who puts qbs in the nfl), get drafted 1st, except the detroit part, says he is a lil disappointed about that part…

Jack Lord Have Mercy

June 24th, 2009
5:02 pm

I’m not even sure Cox will be playing come November. And neither are you. Book this.

Nothing but the fat boy

June 24th, 2009
5:02 pm

If tech players are supposed to be so smart, how come their offense is so dumbed down. Handoff left, handoff right, handoff up the middle.

Little Dawg

June 24th, 2009
5:04 pm

We’re wearing the strap Long Dawg. You gotta come take it from us. Until then, shut your trap.

RAMBLE ON!!!

June 24th, 2009
5:06 pm

Nothing but the fat boy, are you really that stupid?

Says a lot about you and your football team for letting a pee wee football offense “Handoff left, handoff right, handoff up the middle” run for 409 yards and scoring 45 points.

fat boy

June 24th, 2009
5:06 pm

I think you’re right, we ran right, we ran left, and we ran up the middle against the Dawgs. And we’ll do it again. Stylin, profiliin, space mountain! Whooo!

Cox for Heisman

June 24th, 2009
5:08 pm

Joe Cox is my hero. He is the best. Caleb King will be better than Herschel. Mark it down and book it dano.

Richt calling for a pink out

June 24th, 2009
5:10 pm

And he loves Cox, too.

Four horsemen

June 24th, 2009
5:11 pm

Come try and take the state title strap from us. We will slap the taste out your mouth in Atlanta this year.

jeff

June 24th, 2009
5:13 pm

best ever??????????? you’ve got to be kidding me with that stupid headline. This is a QB that could not even lead his team to the SEC East. What a slap in the face to other great UGA QBs. over rated in my book…VERY overrated…..and all about himself and the NFL

Long Dawg

June 24th, 2009
5:14 pm

I’ll shake some nectur off my little dog for you bee boy. Georgia ownes Tech. You’ll win one or two occassionally which keeps it interesting but in the long haul we own you. What is so pitiful is that your program has no meaning without the Georgia rivalry.

Sanjaya and Rosie O'Donell Love GT

June 24th, 2009
5:14 pm

Teachers orders: In order to safely get to class; run left, run right and run up the middle.

larrymunsonthe3rd

June 24th, 2009
5:17 pm

He is gone and joe c is the quaterback i wish him well lets keep the dawg talk about current players not former player and what might have been!!!!!!

jeff

June 24th, 2009
5:18 pm

why would we feel different if he wins a super bowl????? he could not win the SEC East. It’s always been about the NFL for him. UGA was a necessary step in the process- if he had his way, he would have preferred to go straight to the NFL. who cares if he wins a superbowl….bottom line…we should have gone after Tebow or someone else that WANTED to play college ball

Long Dawg

June 24th, 2009
5:18 pm

Hey bee boy. Licked anybody’s nectur lately? You are wearing the strap alright. You’ve been strapped 59 times and 7 out of the last 8. How does it feel to be owned and ignored?

Little Dawg

June 24th, 2009
5:24 pm

yeah, we don’t care about Clemson, Va Tech, Florida State or Miami.. Its all about UGA. Sure. What is so pitiful about your program is that you actually consider Florida to be your biggest rival. That team that “ownes” you. Some rival that is. Pot, meet kettle.

Little Dawg

June 24th, 2009
5:25 pm

You tell me. How does it feel to be owned and ignored by Florida? Come and get the strap little man- its in Atlanta near all of the muggers. Beotch.

Little Dawg

June 24th, 2009
5:27 pm

You don’t “owne” us anymore since PJ arrived and you sure aren’t doing a good job of ignoring me on this blog. Wrong on both counts. State champs.

bank walker

June 24th, 2009
5:34 pm

Stafford was a pretty good QB for us, not stellar. Although having tons of potential, he lacked the drive to be mega successful. I hate to say this, but if he had the desire to win like Tebow, he would have been awesome! I appreciate the time he put in at Georgia, and wish him a very prosperous pro career.

RAMBLE ON!!!

June 24th, 2009
5:38 pm

WHHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Keep taking them to school Little Dawg.

Spence

June 24th, 2009
5:51 pm

Anyone that thinks Knowshon didn’t play with heart is a complete moron. No discussion necessary.

Here is a great blog post on Staff:

http://im-thinking19.blogspot.com/2009/06/stafford-was-pretty-good.html

Bulldog Bob

June 24th, 2009
5:53 pm

As a college QB, Stafford was mediocre at best. Great potential but it was never realized due to his o line and terrible receiving core. I would take Greene and Shockley over Stafford anyday. I don’t think stafford embraced the UGA team and leadership role the way he needed too. I believe that Joe Cox will give 1,000% every play and all season. Stafford never really showed any moxy in motivating his team (Blackout vs. Alabama last season).

DOUG

June 24th, 2009
6:01 pm

To me Stafford will be remembered as a player who had all the tools including brains but did not have a supporting defense to help him out.
Had we had a division 1 caliber defense (D coordinator) Stafford would have been far more respected. I think we tend throw off on guys who don’t win SEC titles. Stafford was great. Guys with big guns take longer to utilize the strength they have. He will be a star in the NFL. Unfortunately he will have a janother junk defense again in Detroit.

Long Dawg

June 24th, 2009
6:03 pm

Ok you bunch of nectur lickers, change the subject to Florida. I could bring up your record vs Florida State but that would be cruel.
We also lead in the Florida series. I am not talking about me ignoring you I am talking about fan support you nit wit. You guys can’t fill a 55,000 seat stadium unless your are playing Georgia. You have to hire an outside company to sell tickets for you and you have to basically give them away because nobody but a bunch of nectur lickers like you would be caught dead at a Tech game unless they are playing Georgia.
You guys are pitiful. You win one game ever 7 years and then s__t your pants against LSU and you wanna run your mouth. Lap that nectur boys till you get your next beating.

BIG DAWG

June 24th, 2009
6:17 pm

just go play gardner-webb… and win by one!!! and learn to count, at least to 4

BIG DAWG

June 24th, 2009
6:19 pm

heard brain oliver talking on tv the other day, didn’t understand a word he said, but i did hear him, didn’t he go to the smartest school in the country??

Dawg Days

June 24th, 2009
6:55 pm

Its not relevent what he does in the NFL regarding his play at UGA. He never reached his “potential” while at UGA. You can make the arguement that he was always playing behind a young offensive line, but I saw plenty of bad balls from him when he didn’t have any pressure. He was just inconsistent and threw a difficult ball to catch, and I don’t mean too much juice on it. They would be low, high, out front, behind the receiver, rarely would he hit a receiver in stride. There’s no virtue for having a cannon if it can’t hit its target…I wish him well in the NFL, but it won’t change anything about how he played at UGA.

SoCal Dawg

June 24th, 2009
6:55 pm

Greene was greatest. Stafford had the most unreached potential. OVERRATED!

Bulldog Bob

June 24th, 2009
6:57 pm

Tech deserves our recognition for a prophalatic program!!!! or is it prolific? I know they can engineer one of the aforementioned.

Central Fl Dawg

June 24th, 2009
7:00 pm

In my heart Eric Zier and David Green were the 2 best QB’s in recent history. Matt Stafford had his opportunity to become the best, but squandered it all. Stafford certainly was talented, no question about that, but both Green and Zier had better leadership and decison making abilities compared to Stafford. As sad as it is, all the hype (and the hope by UGA fans) that Stafford had when he came to UGA was never fullfilled. Zier and Greene never had the hype, they just produced beyond everyones expectations.

GO DAWGS SIC ‘EM

jg

June 24th, 2009
7:37 pm

as i read these words it becomes clear that not many people on this damn blog played football, except in the back yard. lets face it stafford played behind a line with 2 true and 1 redshirt freshman and led the sec with 3,450 yards passing he also threw 25 td,s .even cmr said since i have been here ,we have not caught the ball. if tony wilson catches the ball in the sc game in 2007 , the hardware in in the case as we would have destroyed lsu and ohio state.look at our defense since bvg left. how many games did uga win in those years holding teams to less tha 17 pts. fla is much stronger now .stafford played behind average lines and had average pass catchers (until last year)when our best is a true fresh.there is a reason that he went # 1 overall .Ga had the best team in the usa in 2007 we just didnt get to play for it.people that say stafford is overated are just flat out ignorant and are perhaps the same brain surgens that say coach mark is on the hot seat. as i read these lines i think there should be a chip inserted into your tv and make you answer 8 out of 10 questions before one is allowed to watch college ball .other wise just watch the abc news ,or the hill street blues or the nba and leave the comments to people that know better.

Timmy Teebs

June 24th, 2009
7:49 pm

Stafford was overrated and will flop in the NFL. No touch on on short or on swing passes. Good riddance!

GT Dog

June 24th, 2009
7:50 pm

Gotta love it! Over the two years that they were the established starting Qbs at their respective schools, their records were virtually identical with one exception. And that exception was largely beyond their control. OVERALL RECORD: 21-5 v. 22-5. CONFERENCE RECORD: 12-4 v. 13-4. BOWL RECORD: 2-0 v. 1-1.

Of course I’m referring to Stafford v. Teebow. Very simlar results, with the exception being that UF won the SEC East and played for the MNC last year. How close did UGA come to being in that game 2 years ago?

2 college QBs, in the same conference at the same time…almost identical performances…one is hailed as possibly the “Greatest College FB Player Ever”, while the other is dismissed as a failure?

Go figure…

Lets be honest

June 24th, 2009
8:07 pm

Damn… You dirt dobbers are still on here (RAMBLE ON)? Still talking about your one hit wonder? Once again, 1-0 vs 7-1. Dirt dobbers are good at math. Discuss amongst yourselves.

Lets be honest

June 24th, 2009
8:19 pm

Little Dawg – “What is so pitiful about your program is that you actually consider Florida to be your biggest rival. That team that “ownes” you.” Sounds familiar. Please!! We own Tech and you know it. 1 win…wow. Try 7-1 BWAHAHAHAH!! Answer me this. What is the longest winning streak in the UGA vs GT? What is the overall record? Who is your biggest rival? Here, I’ll give you a hint. A team that OWNES you. LOL!!!!

weston

June 24th, 2009
8:34 pm

Miss Ramble On, you’re on this blog even if your blogger is NOT on vacation. Nice try dumb broad.

Stafford is GONE. Why does it matter what he does in the NFL? Geez will football season ever start?

Dawg_Em_Out

June 24th, 2009
8:36 pm

i like what stafford did for uga, though i think he wont go down as the best ever in uga history. thats far fetched imo. i think stafford will have a tough time in detroit, though could it get any worse for the lions than last season?

AltamahaDawg

June 24th, 2009
8:38 pm

Did anyone cover the “it” factor yet?

weston

June 24th, 2009
8:49 pm

>>You don’t “owne” us anymore since PJ arrived >>

Now that’s funny. What is your definition of “own” then? One 3 point win over UGA? If so then LMAO. Since 1980 UGA has beaten Bug Univ 21 times to 8. I call that “own”. It’s the same kind of lopsided dominance that FL has had over UGA since 1980. In other words, GeeTee is UGA’s beeotch.

dawgbuzz

June 24th, 2009
9:02 pm

The NFL experts judged Stafford to be the better quarterback. Being the #1 pick and being given a contract worth $41.7m means something. History may prove them wrong but the betting money is obviously on Stafford. Where is Greene now? Greene had the greatest of college careers and Dawg fans love a winner but Greene played on teams that played as teams. TN didn’t win the National Championship with Peyton Manning but with T. Martin. Joe Cox has a chance to win more games than expected with a cohesive team. Last year, Stafford excelled but there was no way to overcome a makeshift OL and an indifferent defense.

Dawg in VA

June 24th, 2009
9:15 pm

I like Stafford and will be a fan of his in the NFL. We had some nationally prominent teams with him, but some hard luck to go along with it. However, while he may be the most talented Bulldog QB ever, the guys who’ve won championships need to lead the list – Belue, Greene, Shockley and a few others. I love Zeir too even without the titles. At the end though, if you’re talking about the Bulldog QB who went on to the greatest pro career, hands down that’s Fran Tarkenton.

HH

June 24th, 2009
9:30 pm

A question of overrated or simply undercoached?

Camden Mark

June 24th, 2009
9:46 pm

Frans the man alright.9 allpros,7 pro bowls,NFL MVP etc.
Like Tarkenten I think Stafford will make a better pro than collage QB.
When Cox finishs up this upcoming season I think folks will be wondering why he wasn’t the stater all along.

My take

June 24th, 2009
9:54 pm

Stafford – Can you say John Elway, the good arm and the bad inconsistency.

Moreno – Barry Sanderish, all the moves, no top end speed. Great between the tackles and making the first man miss. If healthy a potential starter within 2 years. A few pro bowl’s or at least a top ten rusher in the league. If his body holds up, those backs only have so many carries in them.

S.E. Dawg

June 24th, 2009
10:13 pm

Many on here say that Stafford didn’t care. I certainly remember the night at Alabama, in overtime, Mickey Henderson hauling in the winning score thrown by Stafford. If I remember correctly Stafford threw his helmet off running wide open to be one of the first in the dog pile. If he didn’t care he would have arrogantly walked off the field with the body language of, look what I did.

And I guarantee that if anyone offered you $41,000,000 to bypass your junior year you would take it in a heart beat.

Dawg79/83

June 24th, 2009
10:13 pm

I liked Stafford initially. He never seemed to improve. I also never really saw him getting coached on the sideline. I saw him talk on the phone but never really saw him have commardeship with other players. Maybe I’m wrong. I wish him the best.

NashvilleforUGA

June 24th, 2009
10:27 pm

Varsity veteran, i’m not sure what RB you were watching but Moreno was actually the heart and soul of the offense, high motor, got straight up and ran back to the huddle after being hit hard, created most of his yards on his own….I’m not sure what else you could ask for from a running back. What i’m reading on here are a bunch of hypocrites….tell me if you were sure that you would go in the top 15 in the draft coming out as a junior that you would not turn pro and I’d call you a damn liar….I don’t fault Moreno or Stafford for going pro early. Stafford is probably the most talented QB UGA has ever had, but the truth is only one QB from one school can win a national title each year….those aren’t good odds. If you are judging by that then Stafford is not the greatest. If you are judging by him doing more with less than alot of QB’s we’ve had then yes…Green had two NFL draft picks to throw to, that actually caught the ball. Stafford didn’t have that kind of supporting cast. I wonder what the career completion and win % would be had the receivers caught the ball when the ball was thrown perfectly. Enough of this talk though, is it football time yet?

Coach D

June 24th, 2009
10:57 pm

My thoughts on Stafford:

It always seemed to me that Stafford had kind of a business mentality that works for the pros but not college. I think Stafford’s way of ” leading” was ” hey if you do your job and I do mine, we’ll be successful”. Granted, it’s not the emotional cheerleading of a Tim Tebow, but when the players around him did their assignments like they were suppossed to; and when Stafford stayed within himself instead of trying to force things,I felt he lived up to the hype. When he tried to do too much, he was very mediocre and at times horrendous.

Also, I hate to break it to everyone, but not everyone is cut out to be a leader. Some people have it and some people don’t, and that is as true on the football field as it is in any other profession. Leadership is always kind of a subjective argument anyway. There are more than one way to achieve the same goal, and the “best way” is the one that gets the job done. Nick Saban wrote in his book that his championship team at LSU had a “wolfpack” leadership mentality, meaning every member on the team worked on being the best they could be individually and in doing so, it produced a bunch of players that were self-motivated to be the best.They didn’t wait on other people to lead them, they pretty much led themselves. It’s nice to have a star Michael Jordan or a Tim Tebow to motivate everyone by their play,but that’s not a luxury every team is going to have. At some point every member needs to be accountable for a team’s success. That’s what wins championships.

Pete

June 24th, 2009
11:08 pm

Yes he is talented but talent also means being a good leader and motivator which he was below average. I loved to watch him throw the ball but I’ll take Greene or DJ any day to lead a team. Let’s forget about it, move on and look for good things from Aaron Murray.

Delvis

June 24th, 2009
11:14 pm

David Greene could connect on the long pass which helped to beat Bama in Tuscaloosa. Stafford could not hit the deep pass. He would throw it 20 yards too deep every time. The receivers were spotty at best for Greene. I choose Greene and Zeire. Stafford made some wonderful throws but also made some bone headed decisions. To be successful in the Pros, Stafford will have to have a great offensive line and be able to hit the deep pass. Calvin Johnson will have to run routes over the middle, which until now, he can’t do.

dan

June 24th, 2009
11:52 pm

This is in response to previous bloggers who fussed at Bill King for singling out poor Matthew Stafford. The guy has $41million of GUARANTEED money in the bank, and we’re supposed to be sensitive of his feelings? Forgive me if I don’t feel sorry for “poor Matt Stafford”, when there are millions of people out of work in this country.And I’m sorry, but criticism comes with the territory. If I was making $41 million I wouldn’t give two damns what anyone on an AJC blog said about me: good, bad or other.So why would Stafford care? Does anyone actually think he’s reading blogs in Atlanta, a place he doesn’t even live anymore? I’m pretty sure he has more important things to do like be a franchise QB in the NFL. So I say the hell with all the self righteous critics Bill! I think this is a great summer blog topic.

Showdog

June 25th, 2009
12:10 am

Cannon arm,but if he thinks throwing into double and triple coverage produced bad results in the SEC,just wait until those NFL CBs get to him. He was still trying to make stupid throws after Three years,that he was making as a Freshman. I hope he finally gets it,but for now he’s a million dollar arm with a 10 cent head.

Coach BoBo

June 25th, 2009
7:11 am

Fear is brewing in Muttville…

bigshot

June 25th, 2009
7:18 am

Great talent and has all the tools, but he was selfish. Stafford was all about making himself look good. He did not come to UGA to win championships and he used UGA to get his ultimate goal of becoming a pro qb.

Dawg Fud

June 25th, 2009
7:56 am

damn good dawg. i wish him the very best at the next level. no division or conference titles so the stat book is irrelevant. however, he would have shattered the 400 yd games record had he been more consistent. that tells me he still has a lot to learn and should be fun to watch in the pros.

GO DAWGS!

Dawg Fud

June 25th, 2009
7:57 am

bigshot – there is nothing wrong with having goals. would you turn down an opportunity to play for Mark Richt is you were a highly touted QB? that’s why he came UGA…duh.

emdawg

June 25th, 2009
8:00 am

One of the best arms UGA has ever seen. He could make throws many excellent QBs could only dream of. He was severely handicapped his entire 3 years with a undermanned and inexperienced O Line. This often led to hurried and ill advised throws.and odd interceptions. He also did not have a true game breaker with experience at WR. MoMas was good but not a real burner that put pressure on a defense and eliminated double coverages. We can only guess what he could have done with a bigger and more experinced A J Green along with the other weapons. Such is the life of a Dawg fan waiting till next year. When will next year come?

NoVols

June 25th, 2009
8:35 am

Certainly not the best the school has ever had at the position. Stafford may have been the most naturally gifted or talented player. But that does not make him the best. His career has to be looked at as a bust. He made strides towards improvement each season while the team declined during his junior campaign. Many other quaterbacks at UGA have done more with less. And the entire offensive effort was geared towards improving Stafford’s draft status. When did Georgia become a spread offense? How many times was there an empty backfield and four or five wide-outs? Bobo was going to make sure Stafford had the chance to get the Bulldogs a win. Still came up short overall. He’ll be a nice pro, but you cannot honestly say he’s the best UGA quaterback ever. That’s a slap in the face to a lot of other quaterbacks who may not have been as physically talented but accomplished so much more.

OSDawg

June 25th, 2009
8:38 am

Stafford never seemed to quite get over that hump that kept him from being a great QB. As you stated, that hump being consistency. He missed the long man many more times than he hit, and his strength made even the short passes difficult to catch. His mechanics seem sound and his strength is above all others, and he’s smart, but he doesn’t have the touch with the football as David Green, nor the leadership or determination.

His time at UGA was just another period in history that won’t stand out in my mind as dominate. However, I’m certainly giving respect to CMR for putting together 10+ wins seasons, though. Stafford was overrated and accomplished nothing more and possibly less than any starting QB during CMR’s time at UGA.

I’m as hardcore as any UGA faithful, but it’s good to see a change and I’m looking forward to Cox’s leadership and ability come through on the field. He has determination like no other. If one of the new kids comes through, that’d be great too. It’d be nice to see a QB as highly regarded as Stafford have a shot to do what Stafford couldn’t accomplish with an SEC Championship and a potential run at the MNC. I had gotten burned out and disappointed with Stafford.

It’ll be nice to see our TEAM pulling together as a TEAM again, instead of it being the Stafford/Moreno show. There’s been too much focus on those two for a team to act as one unit. A TEAM mentality and good health will contribute to another great season put together by CMR.

September can’t get here fast enough.

OSD

response to I wish stafford success

June 25th, 2009
9:07 am

Dude you are an idiot. First of all, Michael Jordan was considered the best college in the country during his time at North Carolina. So don’t act like his career was a disappointment there, he was on the cover of every major magazine every year. Secondly, Stafford and Moreno were both great players in my opinion. To say you lost respect for Moreno for a hit he took from a player is flat out stupid. Its one play man and thats football. Nobody wins every battle. There was a play later in the game where he absolutely jooked Spikes out of his shoes.

I get so sick of so called GA fans bashing on Stafford and Moreno because we had a disappointing year. Sure the expectations were high, but we had so many issues on the O-line, defense, and penalties to be a championship team. And don’t forget, we’re not losing to rags of a team. Florida and Bama were both top five teams all year long. Tech was a horrible loss because of our defense, not Stafford who threw for over 400 yards and 5 Td’s. He was the only person on our team who actually showed up that day. (and Massaquoi). Stafford is one of the best we’ve ever had in my opinion. The inconsistency was not there in 2008. One bad game vs. Florida cannot sway someone’s opinion on his entire career. Moreno was absolutely spectacular. Any UGA fan who doesn’t think so is retarded. What he did for our team in 2007 and 2008 was unbelievable. No doubt they are the best QB-TB tandem ever at Georgia.

Dave-O

June 25th, 2009
9:21 am

Stafford wasn’t that great folks. A strong arm yes, but I felt his entire collegiate career was just a stepping stone to the NFL. As a dawg fan I almost feel used by him. Moreno gets the grade for me as running backs don’t have the same sort of shelf life other football players have. For 3 years it just felt like Stafford was going through the motions, never getting fired up, never being a leader, always trying too hard to not screw up. He should have been trying to win the game, to carry the team, to be “the man”. Sort of like a certain heisman QB residing in Florida. I hate Tebow as much as the next GA fan, but I’m not going to delude myself-I would have taken him over Stafford as a college QB. These kids play off emotion and leadership, Stafford was just getting tail, drinking, and thinking about the dollar signs. Georgia will be much tougher to beat as a team and not a highlight reel.

Stafford holds no special place for me in Georgia lore. DJ Shockley was twice the QB Stafford was in my book. Greene is probably my favorite recent QB. Stafford will be an afterthought, time to move on folks. Let’s get ready for the fire Cox will bring, and the youngsters that will hopefully get UGA the attitude and luck needed to get to the MNC.

Mark

June 25th, 2009
9:23 am

Can’t say Stafford wasn’t talented don’t think there is a question about his talent. He was drafted #1 based off the talent. THe bottom line is that never even won the EAST let alone the SEC…will I follow his pro career…yes…was he one of the most talented…yes….was he one of the best QB at GA….not by a long shot for me….believe Cox would have gotten just as many wins over that periord…if not more

Hey Ramble On

June 25th, 2009
9:35 am

I guess you and all of those recruits that are coming over there to the Trade School better start carrying their Glocks with them.

Yeah, that is just where I want to go if I am big time recruit! Oh, wait that’s right you guys don’t get many big time recruits.

By the way, one win does not a rivalry make. We OWN TECH and ALWAYS WILL!

33-12 in last 45 games DB! 14 out of last 18! WE OWN TECH!! That is why RAMBLE OWN has such ENVY OF UGA!

And that is why he posts on EVERY SINGLE UGA ARTICLE! Loser! But hey, we actually enjoy it, because you are the typical Tech fan, you have a chip on your shoulder about UGA. I call it pen!s envy.

What is funny is that I have heard more crap from Tech fans over the last 8 months than we gave them over the last 8 years!! That goes to show what kind of program we are dealing with!

But hey, I get it, you guys live to beat UGA while we live to win the SEC and go to BCS games and compete for NC’s, 10 win seasons, and Top 10 finishes.

Meanwhile Tech fans could care less what they do the rest of the year as long as they beat UGA. HILLARIOUS!!!

Best all time -- Not

June 25th, 2009
9:39 am

My vote goes to the QBs who actually won the championships and big games.

Fran Tarkenton, Buck Belew, and David Green all had less talent and hype, but they won when they weren’t supposed to win.

MattDawg

June 25th, 2009
9:39 am

Here is the thing about Stafford. Yes, he is very talented and will probably be an amazing pro player. Although, he never rallied the troops to win a big game like I have seen Tebow do. Joe Cox had an amazing comeback win against Colorado. David Greene did it against UT in 2001. Yes I like Stafford’s throw against Alabama to win in OT but it was one play, not a series. Stafford would get a deer-in-headlights look if we got down by more than one score. Instead of rallying the troops he would go sit on the bench by himself and then look lost on the field. I appreciate what he did at UGA, but he doesnt have the leadership skills of DJ Shockley, David Greene, or Joe Cox. I honestly believe we will look a lot like Alabama did last year. Strong O-line, Strong Defense, good receivers and running backs with just a little bit better QB than Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson. Thanks.

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Go Gators

June 25th, 2009
10:01 am

To Hey Ramble on

Matt “pic six” Staffod never cared about UGA and by the way THE GATORS OWN YOU MUTTS

Herman Archie

June 25th, 2009
10:20 am

David Dukes was undefeated as UGA’s starting QB. Fact.

austindog

June 25th, 2009
10:20 am

Last year GT football proved “Georgia can’t beat us EVERY year.” Bravo.

But best of all is GT’s bravery to schedule two additional SEC opponents this year. Vandy and Miss St. These aren’t two teams which happen to be in down years, these are perennial doormats. GT specifically chose the two worst teams just so they could claim SEC wins in some later statistic.

AC

June 25th, 2009
10:33 am

I think Stafford’s legacy is more defined by the inconsistency in the play calling via Mike Bobo. You cannot try to through the ball down field 50 percent of the time and hope that your QB will be consistent. Stafford did well dumping the ball and we always seemed to move down field. Then we would get to the goal line and run some stupid play like Stafford running the ball. I also feel that we abandoned the running game way to early and often in games.

dawgfan1911

June 25th, 2009
10:43 am

Let this guy GO! I know there is not a lot to talk about but D**. Who Cares about Stafford. He never won anything at Georgia he was like a college basketbnall player staying for one year to build his pro status. He never cared about winning anything at Georgia. Look at Tebow two national championships and he still comes back to florida, Stafford won nuthing for Georgia. David Greene is the best qb Georgia had for everything he gave to the university and all the big games he won.

Lew Hege

June 25th, 2009
10:50 am

Matthew will be remembered as a great QB with a great arm and talent.
His record back up that assessment!

bamadawg

June 25th, 2009
11:17 am

best raw talent ever at UGA…games are won and lost in the trenches…can’t win championships with freshmen linemen…we are loaded and if Stafford and Moreno came back, it would be championship time in Athens for sure, however, we will win the SEC and push for the MNC this year if the linemen stay healthy…it is won and lost in the trenches my man, you all know that…good times are ahead for UGA, we are loaded!!!

BMDPD

June 25th, 2009
11:49 am

I don’t feel nearly as enamored with Stafford as many fans. The truth is that he was not a good leader and made poor decisions! I don’t think you can continually blame the line or the Defense. Stafford personally (in the 2008 season) gave opposing teams the ball on our side of the 50 several times. (See GT and UF). He was highly over-rated. If he makes as many poor decisions in the NFL, then his career may be really short. He may be the next Ryan Leaf! He seems to excel on the practice field, but not so much in the game. Thus, he has a ton of raw talent, but he doesn’t have the HEART or decision making capability to lead and NFL team to the promise land.

BMDPD

June 25th, 2009
11:50 am

Sorry, I meant promised land.

dawgfanatic24-7

June 25th, 2009
2:49 pm

Stafford had his flaws at UGA but the biggest flaw was the BCS in 2007. Our lack of popularity screwed us out of the national championship game. Also during Stafford’s three years at UGA it was an SEC team that won the NC all three years.A tough schedule follows UGA every year.

chazzo

June 25th, 2009
5:17 pm

Look at the numbers. They certainly tell a story. My take is real darn good but not necessarily great. He had a rocket arm, but couldn’t seem to connect on the bomb. The team just didn’t seem to gel around him either, but then again, the team just didn’t gel. He certainly worked hard and improved, but seems to me it was always just a stepping stone for him. I think Cox will prove to be a better leader. Everyone is absolutely correct in that had he and Moreno stuck around, they would have been legendary. What is with the Tech fans on these blogs? Did they finally tear themselves away from dungeons and dragons and realize they had a team over there? Perhaps they should get a blog, too.

chazzo

June 25th, 2009
5:25 pm

Reading over the thread here, I am reminded why I love college football so much. It is all timing and chemistry. Sometimes having the best players doesn’t always when it if the best players don’t mesh. The right mix of coaches and players, the right schedule, and some dumb luck gets the championship. Sure, there are those stacked super teams, UF being one of them and USC a few years back, UGA in 1980-83… they happen once in a while, and they all had some squeakers and/or setbacks.

Hey Ramble On

June 26th, 2009
11:39 am

To Go Gators…It is obvious that you are indeed Ramble On. The only comeback the Nerd Nation ever has is to say something about UF.

Dan

June 26th, 2009
2:12 pm

Talented kid, great arm. However not best ever, no east, SEC titles. When he got frustrated, the wheels came off 2008 Florida? South Carolina 2007?

yellow fuzz

June 26th, 2009
9:49 pm

“What’s the verdict on Stafford?” he can buy the AJC I know that. But he can’t buy a defense that can stop Tech’s option offense.

Red Dawg

June 28th, 2009
9:04 am

throwing the ball sooooo hard has a bad side. You can’t catch the damn thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!