Bulldog Bites: Recruiting and conditioning

Everything’s a horserace these days, whether it needs to be or not. Despite Mark Richt’s string of highly ranked recruiting classes, there was grumbling on the recruitnik circuit before last week that Georgia had been slow out of the gate this year, with only four verbal commitments for the 2010 class. 

Then Da’Rick Rogers, a highly rated wide receiver announced he plans to be a Bulldog and that seems to have opened the floodgates. The Athens Banner-Herald takes a look at how the Dogs’ verbal commitments have doubled in a week, with the latest being linebacker Demetre Baker from Orange Park, Fla. Baker, who also played running back in high school, made his decision Tuesday during a tour of the campus in Athens.

I generally leave recruiting discussions to the recruiting blog, but if you’ve got any strong feelings on the job Richt is doing in that regard lately, feel free to share them.

Elsewhere, Bleacher Report asks whether some of the Dogs’ recent defensive problems are a result of deficiencies in the strength and conditioning program run by Dave Van Halanger, citing reports that there is no accountability for players working out in the weight room and other coaches have to send assistants to make sure players are working out. 

The general effectiveness of the Dogs’ conditioning was a question I heard raised a couple of times last season during the extended run of injuries. What do you think, is this maybe a problem area or should we chalk up last year to a streak of bad luck?

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RAMBLE ON!!!

June 17th, 2009
10:55 am

King must get paid per blog, or he really needs to get a life!!!

I look forward to “Who was UGAg’s greatest kick snapper”

mobetta

June 17th, 2009
10:57 am

We need more 5 star lineman in the fold, just one or two a year would be good. Superstars like the dumba$$ from Ala that just got drafted or the monster they got coming in.

Don’t know about conditioning, but I think our injuries were bad luck because of the severity; how do you work out a ACL anyway?

Oh, and hire back BVG on defense.

Kendawg

June 17th, 2009
10:58 am

I didn’t think that the strength and conditioning coach was the problem last season. If he is, then perhaps we’ll get a clearer picture this fall.

mobetta

June 17th, 2009
10:58 am

RAMBLE ON, you are even more pathetic considering you post on EVERY ONE OF KING’S BLOGS, loser.

TampaGator

June 17th, 2009
10:59 am

Hey, Dawg fans, you beat out Florida International, East Carolina, Indiana, and Michigan State for Mr. Baker. Way to go!

Kendawg

June 17th, 2009
11:00 am

As far as recruiting, I think CMR has done a very good job the last few years. He has recruited more offensive linemen in the last three years, and I think that is the heart of any program.

ThaDawgdude

June 17th, 2009
11:01 am

The players said it themselves, no one was really held accountable last season and workouts were slack because of it. We’ve got a lot of senior leadership defensively this season so that shouldn’t be an issue but the lack of conditioning really showed last season on defense. The injury thing is a combination of poor conditioning and bad luck. We weren’t in that bad of shape to warrant that many injuries. Sometimes they just happen. I’m sure the coaches want to cover their a**es this year now that there is a little bit of fire under them so I expect to see a marked improvement in conditioning and discipline.

Saint Simons

June 17th, 2009
11:08 am

45-42!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

MiltonDawg

June 17th, 2009
11:08 am

techfans: sorry your school doesn’t have their own blog. at least king keeps the fans up to date.
tampagator: your point is what? i assume every UF recruit turned down all elite schools to play @ UF. whatever..take a look at some of your recruits and the other schools that offerd scholarships. BTW, thanks for Charles, Benedict, Murray, etc etc.

kauai dawg

June 17th, 2009
11:19 am

I don’t think Vanhallenger is the problem. Just like Richt he is a high character guy who pushes them to be the best they can be. Both are interested in them becoming young men who lead productive families.

We endured an odd year for injuries. No team could have survived losing 25 players over the year. No one liked the final results of the year but you have to be honest with the situation. Florida wouldn’t have won the national with that many loses.

I am excited about this year with the players coming back it is going to be like a whole new recruiting crop. Go DAWGS!

RAMBLE ON!!!

June 17th, 2009
11:26 am

Actually tis I that needs a life, a job and a girlfriend

RAMBLE ON!!!

June 17th, 2009
11:35 am

Dungeons and Dragons gets me wet!!!

how2fish

June 17th, 2009
11:41 am

Doubt we can blame the injuries on the coach he’s been here since 2001 and we have done pretty well with him…unless they continue…CMR and staff do a great job recruiting…Ramble ON….same old song..I got no life so I Ramble on….

BlackSmoke

June 17th, 2009
11:51 am

Ramble….Since you asked, I would have to say Andy Hogan as the best long snapper…:)

Tech will be national champions

June 17th, 2009
11:53 am

Georgia sucks.

JayRoot

June 17th, 2009
11:53 am

Getting you butts pounded by Paul Johnson’s Yellow Jackets had nothing to do with conditioning and there will be more of it this November,Pal!

Maybe some mental conditioning is order for the bulldogs – Like a grief counselor to help cope with all the enevitable losses that will be piling up this year.

The Grinch

June 17th, 2009
11:54 am

To RAMBLE ON

Say, aren’t you the dude who often cries about UGA fans “getting on our blogs” about tech? What’s up with that? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I do find it funny, however, that you say King needs to get a life yet you are posting on each and every one of his blogs. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

What’s the matter, bored with the new Star Trek movie after the 39th viewing? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

BlackSmoke

June 17th, 2009
11:54 am

“…Other programs such as Miami-Florida, South Carolina, Missouri, Michigan State, Indiana, Southern Mississippi, East Carolina and Florida International have also offered the 6-foot-0, 205-pound prospect….”

Not all cream-puffs that were after him there TG

BlackSmoke

June 17th, 2009
11:56 am

“Arguably one of the most explosive linebackers in the Sunshine State this year; Baker reminds us of fellow undersized linebacker Frankie Telfort (USC) from last year’s class. Like Telfort, Baker lacks ideal measurables but simply wreaks havoc on the football field with striking explosiveness, physicality and blitzing ability.”

I’ll take players like that ALL DAY long! Go Dawgs!

Ramble_Off

June 17th, 2009
11:57 am

Hey ramble–at least Bill king gets paid for hanging out here and creating topics. I heard you hang out here and “rest areas”–or am I wrong?

Mobile Dawg

June 17th, 2009
11:58 am

Kendawg, I beleive your post is right on. We will get a gauge of how the entire program is going this fall. I don’t want to hear excuses for injuries, poor tackling, lack of discipline, poor execution, poor game planning/play calling in the red zone, conditioning, depth, or anything else.

Let’s strap on the helments and get prepared to play SEC style, smashmouth football. Line up and go straight at them. If I have any criticism of Richt, and it’s just my personal philosophy or preference, it’s that he recruits and trys to employ to flashy a style. Don’t get me wrong, I like some surprise or flash, but we should be able to line up physically with any program in the conference, or country and be competitive. We shouldn’t be run off the field by anyone.

I expect a couple of losses this year, maybe more, maybe less, but bottom line is we have to be “competitive” or make some changes. Richt and staff have had the “benefit of the doubt and patience” long enough. It’s time to produce. GATA Dawgs….

The Grinch

June 17th, 2009
11:59 am

To JayRoot

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You are either (1) a tech fan who never attended the college, or (2) a techmite who spent so much time on calculus that you ignore basic grammar. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

You said “Getting you butts pounded…”. Getting “you” butts pounded? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Then you said “…mental conditioning is order…”. “Is order”?? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

You then ended with the classis “…enevitable…”. “Enevitable”?? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Looks like YOU need some mental conditioning. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Joe Paterno

June 17th, 2009
12:00 pm

Tired players get hurt. Conditioning is vital in preventing injuries.

Really?

June 17th, 2009
12:00 pm

Tampa Gator- Are you seriously still on our blog bashing our recruits? I told you yesterday don’t worry about us we will be just fine. I just don’t understand why you are so worried about who we recruit and how many stars are next to their name and who else offered them scholarships. Have you been banned from all Gator blogs or something?

clever_advertising

June 17th, 2009
12:00 pm

Bill King is actually “St Simons” and “Ramble_on!!” I bet you money. He’s just igniting a lot of blog controversy.

38-3

June 17th, 2009
12:02 pm

RAMBLE ON!!! still waiting on those chick-fil-a bowl rings…LOSER!

The Grinch

June 17th, 2009
12:02 pm

To Ramble_Off

That was a good one. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Maybe RAMBLE ON has that Larry Craig foot tapping thing mastered and on display at the rest stops.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

June 17th, 2009
12:04 pm

it never gets old. hehe

Huh?

June 17th, 2009
12:04 pm

I don’t know what the hell was wrong with our defense last year but I am confident that back luck had nothing to do with it. Bad luck doesn’t get you schooled by a freshmen Kentucky quarterback. Bad luck doesn’t get you beaten by 39 points at the hands of the Gators. Bad luck doesn’t give up 26 freaking points in one quarter to Georgia Tech after you held them to 12 in the first half. No, there is probably a little more involved than mere bad luck when things like this happen.

With that said, I am also confident that Dave Van Halanger has very little to do with our defense’s performance last year. He has been the strength and conditioning coach at Georgia since Richt arrived. Strength and conditioning did not seem to be a problem when guys like David Pollack, Thomas Davis, Odell Thurman, Jonathan Sullivan, etc. etc. etc. were smacking our opponents absolutely silly week after week. I don’t recall strength and conditioning being a problem then, nor was it a problem with Van Halanger held the same position at Florida State when they were finishing top 5 in the polls without breaking a sweat.

Has it ever once occurred to anyone that the problem may not be with the coaches, strength and conditioning program, or injuries? Could the problem possibly be the players themselves? Hardly anyone ever mentions this. Why is this so taboo? I mean Matthew Stafford threw for about a gazillion yards last ,despite running for his life half the time, and most of you have never had any problem throwing him under the bus. Why does the defense get a free pass? Where are our David Pollacks and Thomas Davises? I don’t see any. I see a bunch of guys that had a lot of stars by their name before they even played a down of college football. That’s about it. Do you think its possible that we’ve got a bunch of overrated primadonnas right now that have no idea what it takes to win championships? I think that’s very possible. Meanwhile, our opponents have guys like Brandon Spikes, Rolando Mcclain, and Terrance Cody. I submit that we don’t have guys like that and that’s why we got our tails handed to us last year on several occasions.

Please people stop making pathetic excuses for our defense. I am begging you. You are doing them no favors. Good day.

yellow_jercket

June 17th, 2009
12:05 pm

is our car fixed yet?

DesertDawg

June 17th, 2009
12:05 pm

Baker is from Orange Park which is right outside of Jacksonville. We are starting a nice trend here. Go Dawgs!

Nolabigdawg

June 17th, 2009
12:09 pm

Hey Bill,
Really enjoy your posts each day. As a Dawg living here in the heart of Bayou Bengal land, your help me part the purple and gold shroud that I have to endure each day. Please, don’t let the intense immaturity of some of the posters discourage you. You will always have a fan here in Nawlins. Another great recuiting class shaping up. GO YOU HAIRY DAWGS!!!

DoGGoNE

June 17th, 2009
12:11 pm

Huh? You make a great point here–they lack intensity–my coach used to say they lack “piss and vinegar” —-Pollack had an amazing work ethic–really hard to teach that.

Nolabigdawg

June 17th, 2009
12:11 pm

REALLY, REALLY miss Munson on Saturdays!!!

DR

June 17th, 2009
12:12 pm

Tampagator are you a homo? Are you still upset that Brent Benedict committed to us? No, I know why you are so mad. I bet you are still pissed that we got Da’Rick Rogers. Get off our blog homo!

getthepicturenow

June 17th, 2009
12:14 pm

obviously tampa gator hasn’t watched film of Mr. Baker. kid can flat out play, super athlete. i like the way our class is shaping up. i’ve heard woot is untouchable in the summer “pass skeletons” so far. can’t wait to see him in the slot! Go Dawgs!!

sswinfordawg

June 17th, 2009
12:14 pm

Bash this kid all you want but you will soon see he is one of the best players in the state of Florida. This kid runs a 4.45 in the fourty and has a 41 inch vertical. I have read several reviews on him and the consensus is that this kid is a PUNISHING linebacker. I think you can see from his vertical that he has extremely strong legs and judging from him winning the shot put (sp?) he is extremely strong up top. He hasn’t been evaluated by rivals because they just got his video a week or two ago but scout has him as a 4 star prospect. This is a great pickup for the dawgs.

rlinaug

June 17th, 2009
12:15 pm

Ramble On, you’re the one with no life—reading blogs about a team you can’t stand them asserting that the guy writing the column needs to get a life. What could be better for King: writing a blog where even the people who make fun of him read his blog.

More_fun_than_working

June 17th, 2009
12:17 pm

It would be nice to see some intensity on Defense this year not to mention a decent kicker—-and watch the dang penalties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how2fish

June 17th, 2009
12:20 pm

Really ..Rennie Curry lacks intenisty?? I think DL injuries and middling talent at the corners and a lack of a Tom Davies didn’t help..the one the thing the Dawgs HAVE to address is the number of penalties…we killed our drives and helped our opponents maintain their drive WAY too many times….

cjbreed

June 17th, 2009
12:20 pm

Hey all tech fans you didn’t win a National Championship you SPLIT it. You worthless nerds.

TampaGator

June 17th, 2009
12:26 pm

Go Gatuh Go Percy Harvey and Go Corch Urban Meyahs

JaxDawg

June 17th, 2009
12:33 pm

This Baker kid will end up playing Safety for the Dawgs. He will be the next Thomas Davis or Greg Blue. He is a big time hitter.

JaxDawg

June 17th, 2009
12:35 pm

Strength and conditioning isn’t where the finger needs to be pointed for the following reasons:

1. Most of the injuries involved ligaments, tendons or seperated shoulders, and no amount of condidtioning can prevent those.

2. Many of our problems on defense last year had more to do with poor tackling, and penalties from a lack of discipline again not a conditioning issue.

3. Look at the number of UGA weight lifting records that have been broken under Van Hallenger. We haven’t had as many in the past couple of years, but if you look at the current weight lifting records I wouldn’t expect to see many broken as the bar has been set pretty high. Also we’ve had more sub-4.4 guys than any other period.

The strength and conditioning program is fine, and definitely one of the last places anyone should be looking to point fingers at as a weakness to the program, if anything it’s been one of the more consistant strengths.
GO DAWGS!

GaBulldawg79

June 17th, 2009
12:42 pm

Tampagator,
We also beat out Miami and South Carolina who had offered Baker also. He is listed as a 4 star OLB on scout.com that runs a 4.45 40. That’s the fastest 40 time of the top 30 OLBs listed on scout including the 5 star guys. Isn’t it your coaches philosophy to have the “fastest team in the nation”? Quit hating man.

Gen Neyland

June 17th, 2009
12:55 pm

Doing outside work this fine Wednesday listening to the Atlanta sports radio station and it was mentioned CMR will be on Buck and Kincade today if anybody’s interested…

Whopper Dawg

June 17th, 2009
1:00 pm

If what the article said about the conditioning program is true, then it is a huge problem and could explain in part the injuries. You can bet the other elite programs don’t do it that way and there is accountability for the conditioning programs.

Nerdsville

June 17th, 2009
1:01 pm

I think I’ll “RAMBLE ON” over to “Saint Simons” and see if I can find “Tampa Gator” and his gay shorts!

Carl Marks

June 17th, 2009
1:03 pm

Any thoughts on the CB from S. Paulding, Ryan Ayers? He was supposed to be visiting UGA this week and is expected to commit soon. 4.4 speed.

Robert

June 17th, 2009
1:08 pm

I was one of those complaining about recruiting. I will still complain, just less. Bennett kid probably won’t play. Losing too many top recruits this year, even some top boys from GA. Still wondering what happened with Lattimore. Still gotta long way to go recruiting wise.
Scout has Baker as a 4-star but he’s not even rated on Rivals. Kinda strange. His speed is what excites me about him. He should be a beast.
Van Halanger is not the problem (cough, cough Willie Martinez) he is one of the best S&C coaches in the nation.