Questions surround UGA receivers, NCAA rules

Mark Richt has made it clear that he expects Joe Cox to be throwing the ball for the Dogs this season, but the outlook at receiver, with MoMass gone and Kris Durham hurt, is a lot murkier. The Dogs are thin in the receiving corps and last year’s breakout star, A.J. Green, is going to see a lot of double coverage. Who can take the pressure off him? 

Michael Moore looked great in the bowl game, but can he do it consistently? It’s likely that at least one, if not more, of the incoming freshmen is going to have to come up big for Georgia’s passing game to take off. 

A lot of preseason anticipation is building up around Marlon Brown, who seems capable of an A.J.-like debut. But can lightning like that strike two seasons in a row? And highly touted tight end Orson Charles, a high school teammate of QB Aaron Murray, is expected to be more of a receiver than a blocker. Is he the answer? 

I have a sneaking suspicion the key to great things out of the receiving corps could be Georgia’s plan to use talented cornerback Branden Smith as a Champ Bailey-style two-way player.

Richt summed up the situation in an interview with Matt Hayes of the Sporting News:

“Of course we’re really comfortable with A.J., and we feel like Michael Moore is going to do an outstanding job. The rest of the guys have got some things to prove, and there aren’t many left. We’ve got Tavarres King and Israel Troupe and two true freshmen [Marlon Brown and Rantavious Wooten]. Orson Charles is more of a hybrid TE/WR, but he has great receiving skills. We also might use Branden Smith, a corner who is also a kick and punt returner, and a guy we think we can incorporate into the offense.”

So who do you see becoming Georgia’s next great receiver?

Meanwhile, the Birmingham News takes a look at the proliferation of “secondary violations” of NCAA rules and the perception that many coaches think they’re worth incurring. 

At least one football-related secondary violation gets reported to the SEC every week. UGA’s most recent ones were pretty trifling inadvertent stuff, but with Lane Kiffin throwing around secondary violations like confetti and Auburn apparently crossing the line as its Big Cat recruiting tactics get more gonzo, the question arises: Should the NCAA crack down on these “isolated” violations that “provide only a minimal recruiting, competitive or other advantage”? 

And what constitutes too many secondary violations? The News couldn’t get a clear answer from the SEC or the NCAA. Somewhere down the road, though, this situation is going to have to be resolved.

262 comments Add your comment

Dorsey Hill

June 5th, 2009
10:34 am

I got this one:

Tech Fan: 45-42!!! Georgia sucks!!!

Bama Fan: Did you know that if Jesus could play football that Saban wouldn’t recruit him, because he wouldn’t be good enough? His ability to defy all natural laws would pale in comparison to the powers of the 100 five-star recruits we have at Bama, some of whom walked on just for the privilege of playing for the Tide. In fact, Saban is the new Messiah and Bear is God in Heaven and if we all follow St. Nick it will in Tuscaloosa as it is in Heaven. We are the greatest football program ever. It is an immutable truth even though Tenn has 1 NC, UF 3 and LSU 2 since our last, but pay no attention to facts when it feels so good to be the best ever.

UF Fan: What nothing about the Gators? This Atlanta, Georgia paper is biased.

USC Fan: Wait til some year out there maybe…and then you’ll all see!!!

UT Fan: Kiffin is a mad genuis and he is gonna show all of you that we don’t suck it as hard as has appeared lately.

Auburn fan:

DAWG

June 5th, 2009
10:34 am

I say we incorporate a spread style offense, every now and again. we bring in Logan at QB, line Orson up at the slot position, and bring in the double RB package. Spread the field, and open up the running game a bit with the split backs. Or, give Logan the chance to find a mismatch on the outside, or tuck it and run. To keep the defense honest, you have to keep Orson in the mix. Run him across the middle, taking up 1 or 2 LB’s, open the running game for a RB, or for Logan. You have to work with what you have got. WR seems to be our concern (RB too)on the offensive side. Open the playing field, and take 7 or 8 yards at a time!

Jeff Stephens

June 5th, 2009
10:36 am

Bill, you seem to have a new life in your blog. I appreciate the informative and generally positive tenor of your posts. Thanks and keep up the good work, Sir. Jeff

Tide rising

June 5th, 2009
11:00 am

Bill,

There is also an article on today from the Columbus dispatch regarding secondary violations and how many is too many. Ohio State has reported 375 secondary violations since 2000, more than anyone. Sounds disturbing to the sec where programs routinely go on probation but OSU officials point out that the school reports more than anyone because they do a better job of policing and uncovering these violations.

But as the Birmingham news article pointed out if there is no penalty for how many secondary violations you accumulate then there certainly is an incentive to commit them, apologize later, and reap the benefits and small edges that you get in recruiting.

Good one, Dorsey...

June 5th, 2009
11:01 am

…they couldn’t have said it better themselves – and now they do not have to!

GeoffDawg

June 5th, 2009
11:15 am

With Marlon Brown, Rantavious Wooten, and Orson Charles looking to get some decent playing time as freshmen, I don’t necessarily see the incentive in getting Branden Smith involved in the offense so early. Unless these guys all fall flat on their face which is very unlikely, let Smith acclimate to college and focus on learning his primary position. Lest we forget, with Asher Allen gone, corner’s going to be a somewhat questionable position this year as well.

Also, good one from Dorsey Hill – that made me lolfle.

Cuz

June 5th, 2009
11:18 am

Dorsey, Lewis is smiling from above.

Marlon Brown will get the opportunity to see if lightning strikes twice in the same place.

I like Orson cause he has a cool name. Orson Welles, Orson, Mork’s boss. Not a long list.

Cuz

June 5th, 2009
11:21 am

Bill are you trying to make up for lost time. Watch out, your keyboard is smoking.

BE#3

June 5th, 2009
11:22 am

Orson Charles & Marlon Brown

AJ Green on one side and Marlon Brown on the other. Then throw in Orson Charles as a TE/Slot receiver. Hopefully Charles will be a lot like J. Cook at Carolina — too fast for a LB to cover and too big for a DB to handle.

And if the OL stays healthy, there won’t be a need to keep a TE in to block, which is good considering our biggest TE is out for half the season!

BruffDawg

June 5th, 2009
11:28 am

We don’t need another great reciever, we just need one or two who can catch the ball consistently when AJ is not double-covered. A spread offense is not the answer when we have a line like we do. I think the depth chart will be 1-aj 2-moore 3-brown 4-king 5-charles 6-wooten 7-troupe and we don’t need any more wr than that.

JaxDawg

June 5th, 2009
11:35 am

M.Moore should step into the MoMass role to take pressure off AJ until Marlon Brown gets going. Wooten will be a M.Henderson reset, O.Charles will most likely move to WR at least for this season for depth. Don’t sleep on King and Troupe, both were highly touted and have shown flashes of how good they can be, just need to keep them healthy.
Double coverage or not AJ is going to get his. He just needs one of the others to step up and take at least some pressure off him.

-GeoffDawg couldn’t agree with you more on B.Smith. We’re just as thin at corner as we are WR so let Smith stay at CB at least for this season.

ReptilesRule!

June 5th, 2009
11:38 am

The NCAA does need to take a closer look at the schools that have a large amount of secondary violations. Usually where there’s smoke, there’s fire and I think it should raise a red flag that something more sinister could be going on.

Obama, please beg the Saudis for lower gas prices.

June 5th, 2009
11:38 am

BROWN, BROWN, BROWN…THEN O. CHARLES BABY!!!

Columbus Dawg

June 5th, 2009
11:40 am

According to UGA’S Rivals site, Phil Steele is regarded as the top college “picks magazine”. They say he thinks the Dawgs are in for an excellent year. I am not a member of Rivals, and I have not seen Steele’s publication. Anyone know what he’s saying about the team?

Cuz

June 5th, 2009
11:42 am

I agree Reptile about the sinister going ons. They might be dancing.

THE Ohio State University with violations, whodda thunk it.

J Smurf

June 5th, 2009
11:43 am

T. King is legit. A MoMass and Edwards hybrid, if you will. His deep threat and breakaway speed is rare. With a safety always helping on A.J., expect lots of big plays out of TK and MM. Plain and simple, Marlon ain’t college ready lik A.J. was. A.J. could’ve started for us as a Soph in High School. Marlon played against GISA talent and is not nearly as polished of a WR, but his potential is limitless. Expect to see him in more of a Red Zone capacity earlier on.

Pi$$onaDAWG

June 5th, 2009
12:01 pm

Murry will be the QB by game 3 and having to learn the college game speed. Cox will show his fear in the OKIE State Game. Logan is a mike Vick wannabe not your everydown QB. C. King is a bust, but you have other backs to take his place. Use the o-line that is older and healthy to run the ball. I hate that pitch and catch to the TE but UGA has lived on it for years and should get 1st downs again this year with too.

Winningest team of the last 100 years 754 wins

June 5th, 2009
12:05 pm

Dorsey Hill,

I’m glad someone like yourself finally recognizes that there can certainly be made the argument that Bama is the premiere program of all time.

After all we are the winningest team of the last 100 years in college football with 754 wins. ND is second with I believe something like 750 and OU also has 750 I think. Stassen.com is where you can find those stats.

Glad to see that you were looking up the fact that Bama has more bowl appearances than anyone at 56(no one else is close), more bowl victories than anyone at 30(USC may actually be tied with us), more national championships than anyone (4 consensus, 5 split), ND has 8 and OU has 7 or 8. Of course it depends on who is counting. Lets see. We are 2nd in number of double digit winning seasons with 29, OU has 30.

Bama has 25 conference titles(21 SEC and 4 Southern conference which was the predecessor to the SEC). UT is a distant 2nd with 13.

I chose the last 100 years since everyone had their programs up and running by the early 1900s. We are only in the top 5 though in all time wins though since we didn’t start our program until the 1890s while Michigan started in the 1860s. We are also top 5 in alltime winning %. Michigan has the alltime wins total simply because they started earlier than everyone else. But just comparing everyone over the last 100 years its blatantly obvious that Bama is the nation’s winningest team.

But over the last 100 years of football by any measure Alabama is the most dominant program in the nation in terms of # of wins, bowls, double digit winning seasons, national and conference titles. Sorry Dorsey but the pure, raw FACTS back it up.

And Bear Bryant is not God. He merely sits to the right hand side of God.

Yes. We are that arrogant, we are that prestigious, and Alabama is the center of the football universe. Deal with it!

Allow me to leave you with a quote from Damon Evans.

“We need to understand there’s a guy named Saban over at Alabama that came in here and went undefeated”

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smell the fear of the children of a lesser football God!!!!!!

nwizzle dawg

June 5th, 2009
12:07 pm

I agree alot with JaxDawg about Troupe and King. I was really surprised at Troupe at the spring game. Granted, he could have made some plays that he didnt, the burst and balance with which he ran his routes was very impressive. King is probably the fastest, but i dont know. Hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I think Brown will be very good….early.

I think Charles would/will, but with A.White starting to gain momentum in my opinion, where and how? I like Moore’s toughness alot and expect him to be the leader for that group.

Brown just reminds me so much of Calvin Johnson with better upper body strength(compared to when Johnson was an incoming freshman off course), so I think you shouldnt be surprised of lightning strikes twice if you sign tall trees. I mean think about it. All trees are green and brown. Its only nature if lightning strikes twice.

MaconKnight

June 5th, 2009
12:08 pm

King and Troupe are ones who need to step up. I would not continue counting on true freshmen every year to come in and have a season like we just witnessed with Green. With that being said Brown will get a shot at playing right away, as well as Charles and Wooten. I think we are all forgetting about the TE’S White and Kid from CA. We all know that the TE position was very valuable to our offense in past years. just look at the nfl on sunday’s(mc michael, watson, pope) if we can somehow get back to what worked from 02-05, then i think green won’t see double teams.

nwizzle dawg

June 5th, 2009
12:12 pm

And i dont know what Phil Steele is saying about us this year, but he’s usually right. Check the record. His assesment are eerily accurate.

theTruth

June 5th, 2009
12:19 pm

Dorsey Hill, I’m still laughing and you are 100% correct.

Winningest Team-it’s odd that you put Saban and undefeated in the same sentence since the two have never happened together. St Nick has NEVER had back to back 10 win seasons in his career and only 3/4 for his entire career (can’t remember which).

So why choose the last 100 years? You do not have the all time wins so why pretend like you do? Bama has a lot to be proud of but to pick a certain period of time to say “we’re the best” makes you look stupid. Hmm, UGA has the best winning percentage and most wins since he arrived, so I like your logic, UGA is the best for this century. Everyone finds it funny how Bama went ‘retroactive’ in some of their MNC’s. Just be proud of what is earned on the field, 21 SEC ships…

theTruth

June 5th, 2009
12:21 pm

Phil Steele writes an entire book. It’s college football overload.

And yes, I meant Richt in my above post, sorry.

BruffDawg

June 5th, 2009
12:25 pm

As georgia fans let us all rejoice in the fact that we do not have to rely on our history (which is above average at least) to demand respect. Richt has averaged 10 wins over the last 8 seasons so were doing ok this past deacde. Don’t have to dip into the projectors and vhs tapes to find some good georgia football (but there is some there anyway).

jimmy

June 5th, 2009
12:26 pm

we have depth at wr the three coming in are going to play and play big. we are going to have a huge size advantage

TW

June 5th, 2009
12:30 pm

Jancek must step up, and CWM must jump him if he don’t. I have no confidence that either of those things will happen, but if it did it would mean 1-3 games – huge.

BruffDawg

June 5th, 2009
12:34 pm

PS Alabama did not go undefeated Mr. Evans. As I remember, Bama got beat by the annual powerhouse Utah. They made bama look slow.

David

June 5th, 2009
12:35 pm

Tavarres King is MoMass only quicker. Just wait. Best HS WR I have ever seen play live in the state of GA. Never saw Calvin play. Saw Hastings and I am telling you this kid has it.

Winningest team of the last 100 years 754 wins

June 5th, 2009
12:37 pm

The truth,

Maybe you just need to read the post again. I picked 100 years because by that time pretty much every major program in the bcs conferences had their program going. Hence it is a much more accurate measuring point than say 1869 when only Michigan and a handful of other teams were playing. Exactly what is it about this that you don’t understand?

Your point about picking a point in time is somewhat accurate. Georgia fans use it a lot to talk about 2002 through 2005. Nevermind the 20 years between 1982 and 2002.

Also, I mentioned 9 ncs, not the 12 of which 3 are considered retroactive.

Richt is certainly a fine coach but without an nc I sincerely doubt anyone is going to call UGA the best of this century over teams like USC, UF, LSU, etc.

In reference to Saban never winning back to back 10 game seasons what does that have to do with anything. I think we only recently went to the 12 game season in the last few years so at least part of the time he was at LSU they were playing still playing the 11 game seasons. I could be wrong but even if I am so what. You have to remember that MSU was always the little brother to UM and is always going to be tougher to win at and that its always going to be a challenge just to win 10 games at MSU. When Saban took over LSU he had to spend part of the time rebuilding a pathetic program that had 8 losing seasons in 11 years before he got there. Your stats that he has never won 10 games or more in consecutive years is misleading and doesn’t take into account the circumstances and that every new coaching job he went into required a rebuilding effort.

Dorsey is just trying to ridicule Bama because he can plainly see what’s going on and he’s just ticked that the sleeping giant has awoken. He knows what kind of a juggernaut Saban is building over at Bama. We all know.

HH

June 5th, 2009
12:38 pm

Looks like Coach Overpaid is always “thin” somewhere.

mcdawg

June 5th, 2009
12:44 pm

we are loaded at this position-just need to catch the ball

Winningest team of the last 100 years 754 wins

June 5th, 2009
12:48 pm

Bruffdawg,

We don’t have to pull up old vhs tapes. We just look at what we just did and also are looking at the golden future. When Damon said that it was just after we had completed an undefeated regular season. No small feat to do that in the sec and no, we don’t need vhs tapes to look at that. And in case you haven’t noticed yet we don’t need to spend a lot of time talking about our rich and storied history. I for one would much rather talk about the present and future. I notice you’re already living in the past as in 4 and 7 years ago. Good grief!

You can bring up the Utah game but the last time I checked they were the nation’s only unbeaten team and they finished ranked #2. Losing your last 2 games to 2 teams that went 26-1 is nothing to be ashamed of. And from I recollect our game with UF was competitive. We were winning that game in the 4th qtr before Tebow pulled his magic. The Utah game was just a letdown for a team that was 15 minutes from playing for a national title and wasn’t in any way excited about a ‘consolation” game. If you were a Bama fan you would understand those kinds of expectations. But since you are not you cannot possibly understand that our goal is not to win 10 games and say it was a good season. Our goal is the conference and then national championship. There’s a difference in having the championship mentality that we demand versus just having the good season mentality that you are apparently satisfied with.

59bulldawg

June 5th, 2009
12:48 pm

LOL! Thanks Dorsey! Man you crack me up!

Bob

June 5th, 2009
12:53 pm

Phil Steele’s preseason magazine has GA #12 one spot ahead of Oklahoma State and he mentions GA as one of his darkhorse contender’s for the national title.

Festus

June 5th, 2009
1:05 pm

I alriidy towld yawl cuzzin Bill can rite sum. Dang gummit yawl rekons UGA wants a remaitch with Waste Virgiiny. Georgee seems to haive truble with them thare Big Eaist teams in bowal gaimes.

nwizzle dawg

June 5th, 2009
1:10 pm

Da Truth

June 5th, 2009
1:12 pm

Georgia: Cant win a National Championship or even play for one with the #1 NFL draft pick and best RB in the nation.

Brags about beating Hawaii as a BCS win…
Is OWNED by the Gators
Loses to upstart Ga Tech giving up 500 rushing yards with “elite” talent
Is the most underachieving SEC team of the last decade with top 5 recruiting classes and ZERO BCS championship appearances

Fools Gold

June 5th, 2009
1:13 pm

Dark Horse? Why surely phil steel is smokin something. Nah he just wants to sell magazines. If I were you mutt fans save your 7 bucks and listen to Herbstreit and the boys on espn. UGA just dont have what it takes to win the MNC.

Milburn Drysdale

June 5th, 2009
1:14 pm

Sorry WinningestTeam……Dorsey ate your lunch. You sound just like 99% of all Alabama fans….throwing out numbers from a hundred years ago, Bear is at God’s right, Please. The fact is this has been an average at best program for the last 15-20 years. I’ll give you they had a good team last year (good not great). I am thinking the Tide will be losing to the SEC EAST any year they get lucky enough to win the WEST. LSU and Ole Miss will be winning the West for a while methinks.

Boss Dog 1

June 5th, 2009
1:14 pm

Should have not kicked Walter Hill off the team.

Perspective

June 5th, 2009
1:22 pm

Meanwhile Tim Tebow is peforming surgery on some kid in Africa & Mark Richt is holding bible study in Sanford Stadium. What did you do today?

BruffDawg

June 5th, 2009
1:22 pm

Since when was alabama a national title contender? Week ten last season? The early 90’s?

Obama, please beg the Saudis for lower gas prices....

June 5th, 2009
1:24 pm

and make Alabama re-cecede from the union so they can take all the houndstooth homos with them. I mean, talk about constantley digging up old sh!t….oh yeah, UTAH UP IN YOUR A$$!!!!

Jim Doannan as in Doans Pills

June 5th, 2009
1:25 pm

Those boys cant even catch a cold at UGA. Spring game was an embarrassment on ESPN. Defense is a huge problem, just wait and see folks. UGA need some recruiters who can evaluate talent. Spurrier will have UGAs number between the hedges again this year Im afraid.

Perspective

June 5th, 2009
1:27 pm

You are a great program, when other teams hang their season’s on beating you. ESPN recited an article that UGA was targeted by 4 teams last year as the team to beat to make their season. You are an even better team, when fan’s of other teams brag on blogs about beating you. That means you have had some level of success. I may not like Florida, but boy I wish my team played like them and I wish I had Tim Tebow and Paul Johnson as a coach = 4 consecutive BCS games.

Winningest team of the last 100 years 754 wins

June 5th, 2009
1:30 pm

Milburn Drysdale,

So I sound like a typical Bama fan just throwing out numbers from a hundred years ago. Sorry buddy but facts is facts. Dorsey ate my lunch? Fraid not. Dorsey engaged in juvenile humor that was just silliness. I engaged in real FACTS. Apparently the FACTS are on my side. I’ll leave juvenality to him and you.

You must not know much. Alabama has been an average team over the last 15-20 years? What?We’ve won a national title in the 90s and the whole 90s was a 2 horse race between us and Florida. Gene Stallings won 70 games in 7 years for an average of 10 wins. And this was in the days of an 11 game schedule and not a 12 game schedule which adds another patsy to the schedule. What planet are you living on? If and undefeated regular season and 12 wins doesn’t qualify you as a great team or at least as a very good team then what does? I guess that means UGA hasn’t had a great team since 1980. I guess UGA’s 13-1 team in 2002 was only good since they didn’t complete an undefeated regular season.

Ole Miss and LSU will dominate the west for years to come? Sir, exactly how many times ever has Ole Miss won the division? Get back to me when you can count that high. And LSU? The team that won all of 3 of their 8 conference games last year is all of a sudden supposed to jump back to superpower status just because of win good game against Tech. Surely you jest?

Perspective

June 5th, 2009
1:31 pm

Tim Tebow in Paul Johnson’s b-back system with UGA tailbacks. That is my dream SEC/ACC team. Put in Julio Jones and AJ Green. Have Nick Saben as D-Coordinator. Houston Nutt as recruiter. Untouchable.

braveswin

June 5th, 2009
1:33 pm

Winningest, Bear Bryant was a drunkard and I somehow doubt he is at Gods right hand.Bama is about on par with S car as far as recent success. Go ahead and live in the past. We appreciate the laughs.

J Smurf

June 5th, 2009
1:33 pm

Bama fan, how long has UL Monroe had a football team?

Pi$$onaDAWG

June 5th, 2009
1:35 pm

Willie M. for the Sec. of Defense and the US will never be safe.