Missing piece for Richt

Why is it that Mark Richt doesn’t get more respect?

ESPN.com recently released the results of its latest SportsNation poll on the current state of SEC football, and one thing that caught my eye was the response to the question of who is the best coach in the conference. You’d expect Urban Meyer, coming off his second BCS national championship at Florida, to top that list and he did, taking 51 percent of the 17,655 votes.

But who was next? Alabama’s Nick Saban at 22 percent, followed by LSU’s Les Miles at 15 percent. Then came Richt and South Carolina’s Steve Spurrier (whose best days are behind him), tied at 6 percent.

Looking just at the numbers, you’d think Richt might have done better. The guy has won two SEC championships in eight seasons at UGA, and with a won-loss record of 82-22, his winning percentage of .788 is fourth best in the country among active coaches. (Meyer’s  overall winning percentage is .830.) Richt is one of only seven coaches in Division 1-A history to get 80 wins in his first eight seasons. He’s also the dean of SEC coaches in terms of longevity at his current school.

Saban has a winning percentage of .683, well behind Richt’s, and so far at Bama he has only an SEC West division title. At LSU, Saban won two SEC titles, matching Richt. But he also won a BCS national championship.

Miles, who was head coach at Oklahoma State before moving to LSU, also lags behind Richt with an overall winning percentage of .693. And he has only one SEC championship. But, again, he also has a BCS national championship.  

And that, of course, is why Richt doesn’t get as much respect as you might expect from his won-loss record. He’s in a conference with coaches who have won three of the past six BCS titles, and he has none. It might not be fair, but until Richt brings one of those crystal footballs back to Athens, he’s always going to be considered not quite in the first rank of SEC coaches.

What do you think? Should winning a BCS title trump overall winning percentage? Are Saban and Miles really better coaches than Richt?

Elsewhere, it looks like the latest battleground for bragging rights among BCS schools is spring scrimmage attendance. Part of the Saban lore in Crimson Tide country has been the large crowds drawn to Alabama’s spring games since he landed in Tuscaloosa. Interestingly, though, Bama’s 84,050 for this year’s spring game was only good enough for second place behind Ohio State’s 95,722, an NCAA record according to SportsBusiness Daily. Third place went to Nebraska with 77,670, followed by Penn State (76,500), Florida (65,000), Tennessee (51,488), Michigan (50,000), Auburn (45,381), Texas (44,000) and UGA in 10th place with this year’s G-Day crowd of 42,458. 

In UGA’s defense, it’s been noted that the Dogs have a tougher time than some schools in terms of spring attendance because of all the other sporting events going on in the state at the same time, what with pro sports and a little event called the Masters. But, really, does attendance at a spring game mean anything? (Folks on North Avenue, where their game only drew 8,500, probably would say no.) Is it indicative of the strength and fervor of a school’s fan base or just proof there’s not much going on in some areas?  

Scheduling note: I’ll be gone on vacation for most of the next two weeks, but feel free to keep the discussion of all things Bulldog going in the comments.  

Go Dogs!

205 comments Add your comment

bill is a hack

May 18th, 2009
2:26 pm

whine whine whine whine. excuses excuses excuses.
win the big one and youll get some respect. getting blown out of the stadium in your two biggest hyped, nationally televised games probably isnt going to win you any national fan base. suck it up and quit the whining.

F.G.

May 18th, 2009
2:33 pm

I do not think it is winning the BCS. Richt has not produced with the talent he had through the years. Meyer, Saban, Miles and even the OBC would have more to show if they had all of uga’s talent. As far as the Spring attendance, those schools listed all have a great fan base and are always mentioned in the hunt for the BCS title.

Voice of Reason

May 18th, 2009
2:36 pm

I didn’t see any whining. Bill stated the obvious that Richt doesn’t get as much respect because he hasn’t won the MNC. I didn’t see anywhere that he said this was not fair. Can you see the difference between reasons and excuses moron.

Voice of Reason

May 18th, 2009
2:40 pm

Really? Alabama is ALWAYS mentioned in the hunt for the national title? Did you just start watching football last year? And I suppose Nebraska is ALWAYS mentioned in the hunt also? try thinking first and then commenting.

WalkerMuhDawg

May 18th, 2009
2:42 pm

Richt is never gonna get much love from ESPN types. That readership and viewership is overloaded with fans who actually think that the Big 10 is the preeminent conference in America. Both Saban and Miles, as you know, have Big 10 backgrounds and so are gods to these people. Richt is a better coach than either … and by FAR better than Miles who would rank below Nutt, Johnson and Brooks, IMO.

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
2:47 pm

FG, how is it that you list UGA talent as much better than FL, and LSU?

And while we are on it, somebody tell me how in his first 2 years at Alabama, Saban (who came in with LOTS more experience) accomplished anything more than Richt did in his 1st 2 years at UGA. He Didnt, so why is the perception that he did, even among some Dawgs fans?

ha

May 18th, 2009
2:47 pm

the espn types should be all over uga then, as their logo is stolen from the heart of big 10 country.

Herschel Talker

May 18th, 2009
2:54 pm

This guy, Bill King, is a joke. There is no reason he should have a UGA blog and representing us.

DanDawg

May 18th, 2009
2:55 pm

I’m one of the biggest Dawg fans alive, but I get it — all of the other coaches mentioned have won a national championship. Nobody is going to pay attention to the percentages and such — if you want respect, win a national championship. Just do it.

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
2:56 pm

Michigan and Tn were right there in that NC discussion.

Personally, I didn’t want to take a chance at missing the Easter Bunny.

Island Dawg

May 18th, 2009
2:57 pm

F.G., you are a moron. UGA was the2008 preseason #1. I would consider that “mentioned in the BCS hunt.” Nebraska, Auburn and UTK, not so much. Spring games are just stupid to travel to, especially on Easter/Master’s weekend. Thousands load up the R-V for Bama’s, straight laughable.

Coop

May 18th, 2009
2:58 pm

I am a huge Dawg’s fan and a season ticket holder. However, I don’t think the vote is that far off. I think Coach Richt is an outstanding coach, but but these other guys are more accomplished.
Saban absolutely gets everything from his players. He does not tolerate mistakes or underacheiving while Richt does.
I’m not sure about Les Miles. He won with Saban’s players and coaches with emotion. I’m not sure though that he is any better than Richt, but I can see the National Championship arguement.
Meyer, while a whiner and a low class coach, is a winner and has a record that cannot be disputed.
The SEC probably has 5 of the top 8 or 9 coaches in the country…bottom line.

uuugh.

May 18th, 2009
3:00 pm

I like coach Richt but we haven’t seen a team over-achieve in a while…couple that with great recruitung classes year after year and you really start to wonder. I think he is better than Les “Lucky” Miles. But Urban Meyer and Nick Saban seem to get more out of their players than Richt does. I think the list is right on the money except for Miles. I would rather have CMR than any of the other coaches…I just feel like he is about 3rd or 4th in getting the max out of his players. He may be #10 or #12 at player discipline.

Ken

May 18th, 2009
3:03 pm

To a point I agree with this article, but I think that Richt’s good guy mentality and do the right thing demeanor does not give him the attention and respect he deserves in the national media.

I personally hope CMR stays at UGA for the next 20 years or more and I do believe he will bring the NC to Athens.

Proud to be a BullDawg !!

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
3:07 pm

Dan, you are right about that. fair, unfair, it is what it is. Still, it irks the analytical types when somebody compares somebodies 1 or 2 loss season, with somebody elses. Truth be told, teams 2000 miles away opened the door for a couple of those. Not to take anything away from getting thier team into position, but a lot of it is out of thier control.

Just keep winning coach. One thing is for sure, you damn sure aren’t going to get one if you dont have the percentages.

However, if/when he does, we’ll just have to shut the blog down. Half the room won’t have thier standard line.

Bobcat

May 18th, 2009
3:10 pm

Mark Richt is an excellent coach and his character is far above anyone else in the SEC. A good, strong character is greatly needed in high profile places today. It gives the rest of the world a much needed role model. I am sick of the pompous whining attitudes of guys like Meyers, Saban and that other ‘nameless one’ (former Falcons/now Arkansas coach). These guys are not loyal to their players, fans, or school. They base their careers on disloyalty, greed, and self-publicity. I quite watching ESPN because they praise this type of self-centered behavior and promote unsportsman like behavior. Guys like Richt are ignored because good play, excellent sportsmanship, and other good character qualities do not increase viewership. After all, for ESPN and other news organizations, its all about viewership and that makes money.

Jeff

May 18th, 2009
3:14 pm

Last season has left quite a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths. I would say that 3rd best in the conference is accurate. Richt has missed on his chances at a national championship where Meyer, Saban, and Miles have cashed in the first time. The 02 team blew their chance in Jax. The 05 team couldn’t overcome Shockley’s injury. The 07 team didn’t show up against USC or UT. Until we can complete an entire season, we will never end up winning a national championship. That is definetly a function of coaching and luck (something we have not had).

That being said, I wouldn’t trade Richt for anyone else in the country. This season should be interesting. I think the OK ST game is going to set up our season. Win big and who knows what will happen. Lose and we have some serious work ahead of us the rest of the year.

dan

May 18th, 2009
3:16 pm

I’ll play devil’s advocate here: WHY DOES MARK RICHT NEED ANYONE’S RESPECT? I mean I realize BCS title is heavily influenced by the media and public perception, and I get that argument. But why does UGA need ESPN’s seal of approval? I say win the vast majority of your games, beat your rivals on a consistent basis, and win the games you’re supposed to win( all of which Richt had done) and let the cards fall where they may. Richt doesn’t owe the Lee Corso’s or Kirk Herbstreet’s of the world anything, and to be fair they don’t owe Richt anything. If Mark May want’s to talk about how great Pittsburgh is then let him do it, because those teams always crap out and he’ll eventually look like an idiot like he always does. The only thing Richt owe’s anyone is to owe to himself to make sure his team is adequetly prepared for every game they play in. If he does that, the other things will take care of themselves. If the media doesn’t respect what Mark Richt had done by now, then they never will. So I say the hell with ESPN, UGA doesn’t need them anyway. What are you really missing out on by not having ESPN suck up to your program anyway? College Gameday? That show blows!

Slow Freddie

May 18th, 2009
3:17 pm

Coop, you sound like a “whiner and a low class poster” but you may very well be a winner. Don’t be offended. That’s just my opinion.

Rob

May 18th, 2009
3:18 pm

I’m a UF fan but if I were an AD I’d hire Richt before Miles. He’d probably be my 2nd choice among SEC coaches. Houston Nutt would be on my short list as well. Saban is a great coach too but he’s shady as hell. It’s just a matter of time before Bama is back on probation. And I actually agree with Bill, which is scary, that Spurrier’s best days are way behind him.

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
3:26 pm

uuug, I dont know amny coaches that could have got as much as of his players as Richt did in 2002. I thought 2005 overachieved a bit. 2007, I think he was getting as much out of his player late as any coach in America, dont you? I dont know that ONE play in the SC game should really matter as far and who can coach and who can’t. In fact if Ky could kick a darn 30 yr FG, we might very well be on a different topic right now.

I know, shoulda coulda woulda. I’m just saying, one play here and there is too small of a sample to be making broad generalization between this coach and that. And that’s what I think it comes down to very often.

As far as Saban, what leads You to beleive his ALA teams have over achieved? Meyers team lost 4 game in 2007. So obviously it not just getting the most out of who you got.

I asked this question before and at the expence of a collective groan from the room: Who can you name to get that many wins out of a team that was that crippled as Mark Richt did last year? One example, ever?

I also guarantee, if you could systematically start plucking even a dozen (much less 2 dozen) players off that Al and Fl team last year, we wouldnt be even be talking about them now.

Huh?

May 18th, 2009
3:26 pm

College football fans are incredibly shortsighted and, lets face it, not that bright. They believe what the want to believe, facts be damned. Take this little gem for instance:

“I like coach Richt but we haven’t seen a team over-achieve in a while…”

Yeah man its been like forever. Us old foggies remember waaaaaaay back in 2007 when UGA took a preseason #13 ranking and finished #2 in the land. We rode our dinosaurs to the games back then. Holy beejeebus why do I even bother?

At any rate, the national championship argument is admittedly a fair one. He’s been at UGA eight seasons. We had a shot in 2002 but that was really our only legitimate shot since he’s been here. Its perfectly reasonable to expect him to do it again and to date he hasn’t. We all know he’s a great coach but he won’t get the respect from outsiders until they see us in the BCSCG. Just the way it is.

As for other coaches, Meyer is hands down the best at the moment. People seem to forget all the 8 and 9 win duds that Saban had at LSU and even his 6-6 mark in 2007 at Alabama. Is that “getting the best out of his players” geniuses? Like I said, shortsighted. And I don’t think Miles has any business even being mentioned among the SEC’s best. I don’t care about his fluke national title. The guy is a total dolt. If you really want to talk about the SEC’s best coaches you need to talk about guys like Bobby Johnson and Rich Brooks. Very few do more with less than those guys.

There is no National Championship in College Football

May 18th, 2009
3:27 pm

I don’t give a dang about a trophy that isn’t legitimate. The NCAA doesn’t award the thing so it’s irrelevant. The SEC is what matters. That being said, until UGA stops having multiple brainfarts every year and Richt holds his staff accountable and fires incompetant coaches….he’ll get the grief he deserves. I really don’t care how he ranks among SEC coaches, I care that Georgia comes prepared to whip teams they should whip and compete with teams with which they are evenly matched.

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
3:30 pm

Bobby Johnson would the best if that were the standard to be sure.

jason

May 18th, 2009
3:31 pm

It’s all about the rings/ championships. Nothing else matters. Meyer, Miles and Saban all cashed in on their first oppurtunity. CMR has missed on at least three.Through bad luck or whatever. UGA has to show up for 14 games. That’s all there is to it. Luck is what you make it. If they show up and play 110% every game then the lucky bounces will fall their way.

PeligroPero

May 18th, 2009
3:35 pm

Come on, guys. ESPN is in the entertainment business and our beloved Coach Richt isn’t exactly scintillating, bombastic or controversial, like say some of those other guys. Richt is competent, a true gentleman and will be successful for long time. Anyone who’d take Satan or Urby Crier over Richt is welcome to them. And anyway, ESPN’s got us all talking about them.
And, Dan, I hate to admit it but I liked seeing Game Day in Athens.

Huh?

May 18th, 2009
3:43 pm

For the record, I also think 2005 and 2007 had national title potential, but as the critics say Richt couldn’t “put it all together.” Obviously the Shockley injury in ‘05 was just bad luck, but where was that great defense that stiffled LSU in the Auburn and WVU games? And Georgia was playing as good as anyone at the end of 2007. What the hell happened at the beginning of 2007? There’s just a lot of head scratchers and “no show” moments like that. Its becoming rather routine to be quite honest.

Mac

May 18th, 2009
3:47 pm

Saban and Miles really are not better coaches than Richt. Saban has had one really good year in his career and almost followed it up with another one last year. Other than that, he hasn’t been a world-beater. Same with Miles until he proves otherwise. Richt has build a consistently stronger program than those two … so far. Could change.

dan

May 18th, 2009
3:49 pm

PeligroPero

UGA is 0-2 when Gameday is in town. If that is how the team performs when the Gameday crew is in town then perfectly okay with them never coming to Athens. Plus the show itself is just not that entertaining to me. Basically the only reason to watch Gameday is to know where to place your bets in Vegas based on the media perception.

Todd

May 18th, 2009
3:55 pm

Bill, CMR has yet and how many times does it have to be said, not beaten UF and Tenn in the same yr. He has yet to win the East straight up. He’s backed in to the title games and has won a total of one more game against the Gators than Jim Donnan.

CMR is a great man, not a great football coach. He continuues to make a great mistake in whinning about playing in Jax. when he brings 40,000 of his best friends and plays a game that last for 3 1/2 hrs.

Please, please Bill stay focused.

Ferndolin

May 18th, 2009
3:57 pm

At this level, there is a tremedous amount of luck involved in winning the BCS Championship. A near miss here and there and a key victory by another team and your in the championship game. The player and coaching talent is there at UGA but ‘ole lady luck’ has not been on our side. Besides, we have to play in Jacksonville every year. Give me a break! If they want a neutral location, move it around. Spread the love.
GO DAWGS!!!

Hunker Down

May 18th, 2009
4:00 pm

Coach Richt gets all of my respect. I would not take another coach in or out of the SEC or any other conference over Coach Richt. I do not care if he wins a BCS championship or not. He will be a stable influence in a world of crazy college athletics long after the others have had a meltdown, put their teams on probation, or embarressed their schools.

He is the only coach in the SEC who has averaged over 10 wins a season during his career and also declared “I would rather lose than cheat” and “I consider my job as not only coaching them in football but as a ministry to help my players become successful in their lives.”

Nope, I do not care about championships. I do care about winning and I love UGA, my Alma Mater. And Coach Richt is the best coach in America as far as I am concerned and I am happy that we are blessed with him.

Mike

May 18th, 2009
4:02 pm

MORE respect is what you are wanting?? They were preseason #1 last year, that’s plenty of respect there and what did they do with it…

Jeff

May 18th, 2009
4:03 pm

I agree that College Football fans are very short sighted. However, blowing 16 point leads at home to Tech, losing 49-10 against your biggest rival, and being blown out 31-0 at half of an ESPN gameday game will drop you a couple of points in a popularity poll.

Overall, it really doesn’t matter what some ESPN poll says about Richt. It matters what his players and assistant coaches think. I would say our program has grown every year under Richt. This off-season’s loyalty with Richt’s assistants speaks volumes about what the people inside the program feel about Richt.

uuugh.

May 18th, 2009
4:04 pm

I would say they over-achieved the majority of 2002…and then against Auburn in 2007 but only 1 game maybe 2. As many coaches have lost their jobs since 2002…I would consider that to be a long time. Other than Auburn and a hurt Tebow a couple years ago, when would the wise posters in here say that the dawgs have gotten up and beat someone there weren’t supposed to? I would say it has been a while…

Conversely, how many times have the dawgs just not “shown up” for a game? Consistently once or twice a season…or more frequently than the overachieving has.

Jake

May 18th, 2009
4:06 pm

One of the only flaws with Richt, is his loyalty to friends. One bad first half against Bama and one terrible second half against Tech. It all falls with the defense. Never one to offer excuses, only solutions. And this solution would be a new DC. Got to give it to Miles for picking up one of the best DC’s in the country. But the best coach in the SEC is Bobby Johnson. Give him Kentucky’s talent and he would bring a SEC Championship

TS

May 18th, 2009
4:10 pm

Hunker Down- “I would rather lose then cheat”- like in the endzone dance against UF in ‘07? Look, I like Richt. You are lucky to have him but don’t put him on some moral high ground above all the other coaches.

OZZFEST

May 18th, 2009
4:11 pm

When both #1 Mizzou and #2 West Va lost that Saturday night in December 2007, you could tell that when Richt went on ESPN around Midnight to make his case about getting UGA in the championship game …HE WAS UNPREPARED! (He sounded like Ray Goff.) Les Miles campaigned and got his team into the 2007 National Championship. Sometimes it is not about wins and losses, it is about MARKETING and making your point.

George G.

May 18th, 2009
4:12 pm

CFN had a similar column last week. Richt was fourth ahead of Spurrier and Miles.

Gator Growl

May 18th, 2009
4:13 pm

You UGA (and others as well) fans that label Urban Meyer as a whiner and low class just amaze me! I’ll bet you if he had an average record you would just think the guy was dandy, but since he’s at the top winning championships everyone wants to take their CHEAP shots. Bottom line, whether you like it or not, he has run a clean and extremely successful program. Yes, players have screwed up, just like they have at so many programs, but I DARE ANY OF YOU to cast the first stone!!! UGA, TENN, ALABAMA, LSU, SOUTH CAROLINA, FSU, MIAMI, etc etc etc etc…have all had their own problems. Unfortunately, it is all usually more indicative of our society than our football coaches.

uuugh.

May 18th, 2009
4:14 pm

And I see every one saying that there is a certain amount of luck needed to win the big game. You know what you need more than luck? Great performances against good teams on national TV. There are a whole bunch of voters that get a say in who gets to play for all the marbles that don’t reside in the Southeast. Until UGA and Coach Richt prove that they can beat the good teams on their schedule consistently, we don’t stand a chance of winning another one. Playing South Carolina in prime time on ESPN to a 3 pt victory every year doesn’t help much…

Denver Dog

May 18th, 2009
4:16 pm

As much as I like Tim Tebow as the great leader that he is. I wish ESPN would quit saying that he led UF twice to the BCS championship. Chris Leake led the first one. Perhaps Tim will do it again this year.

ESPN doesn’t want to give Richt credit for whatever reason. So it doesn’t surprise me that the poll that they do turns up like it does. I’m surprised that they dont’ show Kiffin as the top coach.

DawgGirl32

May 18th, 2009
4:16 pm

I can definitely understand Meyer as the best coach and Saban to a degree but I could NEVER understand while Miles is even in that talk. If winning a NC really meant that you could lose 2 regular season games then we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. I do agree with PeligroPero that Richt just not as obnoxious and flashy as some of these other guys that are media favorites and I prefer that. Sometimes I feel like football is more of a circus and less of a sport and I’m glad that Mark Richt isn’t involved in that. Obviously luck has A LOT to do with winning a BCS Championship and with his record luck is bound to swing his way.

Gator Growl

May 18th, 2009
4:17 pm

And I’ll bet that if/when Richt wins that first “MNC” you guys will be the first to remove that “M”!!!

jakesdad

May 18th, 2009
4:18 pm

cfb is totally a “what have you done for me lately?” job. Richt’s stock is down because a preseason #1 team laid three eggs last year (admittidly bad) but (as several others have pointed out) the 02, 05 & 07 teams did overachieve even though they didn’t bring home the mnc. my prediction: they’ll beat expectations this yr (though still no hardware), finish in the top-10 & his halo will be back in full shine in Jan. oh, & I’m 2nd generation Tech/10+ yr season tix holder (hope I’m wrong about our game)…

Denver Dog

May 18th, 2009
4:20 pm

So the question will be will MEYER be like Donavan, or Spurrier? Spurrier kept on winning big and went for a big challenge. What will Meyer do? He is a great coach and no reasonable person can fault his record or history. Even a loyal dog fan like me.

Mikey

May 18th, 2009
4:20 pm

Coach Mark Richt in 8 seasons at UGA:

6 10 win seasons
5 times finished in the top 10
2 times finished in the top 3
3 SEC Championship Appearances
2 SEC Titles
3 BCS Bowls
2 Sugar Bowl wins
27-4 on the road in the SEC over 8 seasons
82-22 record over 8 seasons – 79% winning percentage
No Probations

He has my respect. Period.

Denver Dog

May 18th, 2009
4:22 pm

What is this Gator growls problem. His team wins the championship. Who is questioning that. You don’t need to defend anything, you won!

TX DAWG

May 18th, 2009
4:24 pm

“Sometimes it is not about wins and losses, it is about MARKETING and making your point.”

OZZFEST:

If College Football has turned into an election rather than a game I think I need to find a new favorite sport. Your comment is probably accurate, but really sad. I don’t know why we are obsessed with the BCS national championship. It isn’t real. Congress has basically told the BCS if they keep calling their game a national championship they will be prosecuted because it will be an anti-trust violation. The teams and players don’t decide who the champion is. Journalists do!

I think fans should focus on Conference Championships where the players actually decide who wins and not sports writers from the West Coast and the North East. The reason we care so much about the national championship is because of ESPN. And, I love football because it is a game and not a political campaign. If I want to watch politics I will turn on CSPAN.

Dawg Fud

May 18th, 2009
4:24 pm

ditto on what Jeff said at 3:14 pm

B

May 18th, 2009
4:26 pm

Richts record speaks for it self. The man is an awesome coach with a very nice record.

Gator Growl

May 18th, 2009
4:26 pm

Hey Denver Dog, don’t be talkin’ like it was Chris Leaks team that won that ‘06 Championship…You’ll only disprove the premise that so many of these “dawg” fans spew everyday…that the only reason Meyer is winning NCs is because he’s got Tebow and when Tebow is gone that will be the end of Meyer and he will be running off to Notre Dame!

George G.

May 18th, 2009
4:26 pm

Here’s CFN’s column that I referenced above…

http://cfn.scout.com/2/863827.html

Saint Simons

May 18th, 2009
4:26 pm

45-42!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahhaahaha

GaDawg

May 18th, 2009
4:27 pm

this is for Ha. The G logo, used by UGA was installed under Dooley and was later incorporated into the Greenbay logo. It was not stolen by anybody. Oh yea HA!

Dorsey Hill

May 18th, 2009
4:28 pm

Tech drew 8,500 to their spring game? That must have been an overflow crowd at Bobby Dodd Stadium. They must have thought that it was a regular season ACC game to draw that much of a crowd. The last time that many people showed up to watch an ACC team play was the 2008 ACC Conference Championship game. Man Tech is moving up. I guess there are only about 150 High School teams in Georgia that draw more fans than Tech nowadays. 8,500? That means that Tech drew about as many customers as the Varsity did that afternoon. Quite impressive. I mean there won’t ever be such a thing as “Tech Nation” but it looks like they might reach as high as “Tech small rural village.”

Jeff

May 18th, 2009
4:29 pm

Mikey-Great post…Richt has my respect as well. The same people who are complaining about Richt would never appreciate a national championship anyway. As I stated earlier, you can tell what is going on with a coach by watching what is happening inside a program. UGA seems stable and consistent. We just need to put it all together for an entire season.

BAMA STAN

May 18th, 2009
4:31 pm

12 NATIONAL TITLES – 21 SEC TITLES!!!

Rated 4th best in the SEC is not a slight and probably accurate:

Urban – 4 years in the SEC
2 SEC Title games – 2 SEC Titles
2 BCS Bowl games
2 National Titles

Nick Saban – 6 years in the SEC
3 SEC Title games – 1 SEC Title
3 BCS Bowls
1 National Title

LSU – 4 years
2 SEC Title games – 1 SEC Title
2 BCS Bowls (2-0)
1 National Title
Bama – 2 years
1 SEC Title Game
1 BCS Bowl (0-1)

Les Miles – 4 years LSU
2 SEC Title Games – 1 SEC Title
2 BCS Bowls (2-0)
1 National Title

Mark Richt – 8 years UGA
3 SEC Title games – 2 SEC Titles
3 BCS Bowl games (2-1)

UGA last SEC title game 2005 – Florida has been twice and Tennessee once.

As compared to Spurrier – 6 SEC Titles in 12 years, 7 SEC EAST Titles in 11 years, 1 national Title – well, hard to forget those numbers – and he has yet to have a losing record at South Carolina (now that is very under appreciated!!).

After the conference split – Spurrier had 6 SEC EAST Titles in the first 8 years. Richt has 3 SEC Titles in 8 years.

I would put Richt as 5th best coach in the SEC – again – not a slight when you look at the facts – but still probably in the top 10 in the nation.

ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Denver Dog

May 18th, 2009
4:33 pm

Gator Growl get the chip off of your shoulder, your school has won two national championships. If it wasn’t Chris Leake’s team whose was it Jesse Palmer? Anyone that follows College Football knows that it was. Urban Meyer is a great coach, good thing he doesn’t suffer from your insecurity.

Sanford Drive

May 18th, 2009
4:35 pm

Ga Dawg,

Regarding the logo, where did you get that information from? Just curious.

Kenny Powers

May 18th, 2009
4:36 pm

Screw respect, they are voting on who is the best in the SEC

Richt= no BCS titles

When he wins one(or I would like two) he can propel himself above all the coaches above him with winning % and longevity…before that happens, 4th best in SEC.

Richt should have fired someone for the 3rd quarter of the trade school game alone.

LSU

May 18th, 2009
4:44 pm

Coop said “I’m not sure about Les Miles. He won with Saban’s players and coaches with emotion.”

So with your way of thinking richt won his first SEC Championship with Donnan’s players.

LarryTCG

May 18th, 2009
4:45 pm

Richt still ain’t gittin in done, you bunch of what if whinners.

Denver Dog

May 18th, 2009
4:48 pm

Larry TCG/LSU I wish a pox of Jan Kemp on all of your houses

TechBuzz

May 18th, 2009
4:48 pm

Cheap personal foul stunts and blackouts to get his team motivated in big games, instead of preparation and discipline—that’s why Richt is not viewed as a top coach nationwide.

LSU

May 18th, 2009
4:48 pm

Coop you are a dumb@ss….

dawgfan1911

May 18th, 2009
4:49 pm

I agree with the poll in a way but i do realize that with the current system the way it is it will take more time for Georgia to win a National Championship. Lets face it, CMR has been at Georgia for 8 years and has already won 2 sec titles and 80 plus games. Long term, I can see Georgia winning at least 2 or maybe three national titles while he is there. They wont fire him. I just think you win national titles when its your turn. Ga will get their chance. Things have to fall in place. Last year both interior lines were banged up and we had the skill players. This year both lines have debt and are strong but the skill players are unproven. Aaron Murray’s junior year is the year when everything should fall in place.

Gator Growl

May 18th, 2009
4:50 pm

Just expressing my opinion on all the hyprocrisy I see on these blogs. And I’m not seeing any disagreement so far on my original premise that people will always try, by whatever means, to knock down the person at the top. Look, I didn’t like Vince Dooley all of those years that he was kicking out butts, but I had an (unhappy) respect for the man and never labeled him “low class”. I just think in the “brave new” anonymous world of the blogisphere that there are too many out there that like to take unnecessary cheap shots that they wouldn’t dare have the courage to say face to face, that’s all. And also…Absolutely that was Chris Leaks team in ‘06! Tebow himself would tell you that! Which, again, disproves the theory that Meyers success has been all predicated on Tebow.

Dave In Tampa

May 18th, 2009
4:52 pm

Bottom line is National Champioships. I’m a huge dawg and CMR fan and I think it’s a shame that he does not get more respect. However, it’s the same in any sports whether College or the Pro’s, it’s all about the Championships! I do believe that before CMR leaves UGA he will have 2 NC’s under his belt. He’s a class act on and off the field and would not trade him for any other coach out there and there are some good ones.

deezanutz

May 18th, 2009
4:54 pm

I am only writing this because i couldn’t post under the pertaining story. Why does Jon Gruden get so much respect? Why is he getting the spotlight? This man has accomplished nothing in football. Okay, ill give you this, he won one superbowl with dungy’s team not his. he only tweaked a couple of things and won with another mans team and he is an instant legend. suckaducks please!!! stop riding this mans coat-tails, he had done nothing….

Aj

May 18th, 2009
4:56 pm

hey Gator Growl, Do you really think that Urban will leave Fla? I had that talk with a friend of mine (fla grad) and he gave me the third degree on why Urban will never leave. I do have to agree with you that once Tebow is gone it will be hard if not impossible to find someone that can replace him. Go Dawgs!

Georgia Gator

May 18th, 2009
4:58 pm

Until The silver britches can get an entire season together, they might get a conference title.

Dawgtime

May 18th, 2009
4:58 pm

The greatest compliment that I can give a coach is that I would consider sending my son to play for him. As a parent, you have to explore what is best for your children. I don’t place winning a national title as the paramount to being a top coach. I like the idea of having a true Christian making the decisions that impacts the lives of young people. Coach Richt is someone that places what is right above winning at all cost. Yes, you could send you child to an egomaniac that requires kids to buff up with steroids, doesn’t care if you do well in school as long as you win, and teaches the idea that the other players are to be destroyed. No thanks for my child. I’d rather have a coach that encourages Christian values and being the best person you can. I just wonder if Jesus would appreciate all the bragging, taunting, and gesturing that Teebow does during games. WWJD, not that. Win and lose with class. Some coaches have no clue what class means. It is only a matter of time before those type of coaches get caught cheating. They will leave those school on probation. Ask UGA about Harrick. That was a joke. Go DAWGS.

thracer

May 18th, 2009
4:59 pm

Hey Ga Dawg – you are flat out wrong. But don’t let facts get in the way:
“The oval “G” logo was created in 1961 by Packers equipment manager George “Dad” Braisher. The team actually used a number of different logos prior to 1961, but the “G” is the only logo that has ever appeared on the helmet.[25] Although the Packers have granted limited permission to other organizations to utilize a similar logo, notably the University of Georgia and Grambling State University, the Packers hold the trademark for it.[26] Adopted in 1964, the Georgia “G”- though different in design and color- was similar to the Packer’s “G”. Then Georgia head coach Vince Dooley thought it best to clear the use of Georgia’s new emblem with the Packers. However, since its inception in 1961, the Packer’s “G” has been redesigned several times and now looks like Georgia’s original 1964 “G.”[27]”
Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers#Nickname.2C_logo.2C_and_uniforms

dd

May 18th, 2009
5:03 pm

Tech has ugly women!!

TX DAWG

May 18th, 2009
5:03 pm

I still don’t understand why we are obsessed with the BCS national title? It is not a real title. When Auburn (2004) can go 14 -0 in the SEC and not have a chance to play in the BCS title game, why should any team be worried about winning it all. What are they winning – the love of Sportswriters. Until we have a playoff – all the BCS is about is luck and when you lost last. If UF lost to Ole Miss a few weeks later in the season we wouldn’t be talking about Tebow or UF. We would be talking about Colt McCoy or Sam Bradford.

ha

May 18th, 2009
5:03 pm

GaDawg pulled that info straight out of his butt, because dooley ripped the G logo off the packers in 1964. the packers had been using it since 61.

http://www.collegefootballhistory.com/georgia/history.htm

TMC DAWG

May 18th, 2009
5:05 pm

Cmr has had the chances to at least play for the mnc, but as we all know under achieved. I for one are not happy with just 10 win seasons. Until we can go down to Jacksonville and at least compete it will be status quoe. Its about time we look at reality. We play down to the level of our opponet and when the big teams come to town we usually are not ready to play. This trend has to stop. CMR has to start kicking butt and taking names players and coaches alike.

Jake

May 18th, 2009
5:07 pm

It doesn’t depend on Championships in any sport. It’s the coach that gives his team the opportunity. Bobby Cox, Jeff Fisher, Bill Cowher, etc…..You can’t win if you’re not in the mix. Lloyd Carr was a good coach at Michigan, but how far did his championship take him? He got ousted when he wasn’t putting his team in a position to win. Richt keeps UGA in the mix he’ll be around a long time because none of us want to remember the GOFF and DONNAN days

Gator Growl

May 18th, 2009
5:08 pm

Aj, Yes Urban will someday leave, but not anytime in the near future. For one, he is a very dedicated family man and Nate, his son, is still very young. He told his family when he got to Florida that this was gonna be it for a long while, that this was the reason they had moved and moved and moved yet again and sacrificed. At Florida, 80% of his recruiting is done within a few hours of Gainesville and most of the time he can be home eves to watch his son or daughter(s)play ball or eat dinner with his family. At Notre Dame, it would be the opposite. Plus I think he wants to enjoy the fruits of what he has built at Florida. And it won’t end soon, just check out their 2010 recruiting class commits so far! So he will be at Florida for a long time I belieive.

Truth Hurts

May 18th, 2009
5:08 pm

Hey Bama Stain….Once again you fail to understand Bill King’s blog….you are too consumed with patting yourself and the Alabama program on the back for Bama’s one good season in the past ten years. The truth is Mark Richt could care less what you or anyone else thinks of his coaching ability….He has a winning record coaching against Saban and Miles already and before he’s through coaching he will against Meyer to. Saban and Meyer are constantly seeking media attention to feed their ego’s ……if their name is not in the press weekly… they create stories to get their names in the press…Mark Richt, on the other hand…. doesn’t care what the press thinks and is self confident enough in his own abilities as a coach that he doesn’t need anyone else telling him how good or bad he is. I can’t wait for the Tide to start losing games they are projected to win this year. The finger pointing and excuses will begin and once again the Bama faithful will blame everyone but their coach and the pitiful coaching decisions he makes during every game ( see fake punt in the SEC championship game and poor defensive ajustments in the Sugar bowl). I see Bama as an average program…. below Florida, LSU and Georgia, with Ole Miss about to pass you by and Auburn biting at your heels. When your coach can consistantly post 10 plus wins each year while at Bama for at least eight years and win at least two or three SEC Championships at Bama only then will you start getting the respect you think you deserve. Until then you sound like a little boy beating your chest!

Bill King

May 18th, 2009
5:09 pm

The Georgia helmet “G” design was done by Anne Donaldson, wife of UGA assistant coach John Donaldson. She was also my 7th grade art teacher. Dooley did indeed clear it with Green Bay. Here’s the official story:

The Georgia “G” Helmet
In 1963 after becoming the Bulldogs’ Head Football Coach, Vince Dooley redesigned the football uniform choosing a red helmet with a black “G” on a white background as the dominant feature of the new uniform for the 1964 season.

He discussed with his staff that a forward-looking “G” would be an appropriate emblem for the helmet of the Georgia team. Dooley had just hired John Donaldson, former Georgia player from 1945 to 1948, as backfield coach. John was keen on the idea of a new image and volunteered his wife, Anne, who had a BFA in commercial art from UGA to design a logo for the new Georgia helmet with the general specifications Dooley had outlined. Dooley accepted Anne’s original “G” which fit his vision for a forward look to Georgia’s new emblem.

Since the Georgia “G”- though different in design and color- was similar to Green Bay’s “G”, Coach Dooley thought it best to clear the use of Georgia’s new emblem with the NFL team. Athletic Director Joel Eaves called for permission which was granted. However, since its inception in 1961, the Green Bay “G” has been redesigned several times and now looks like Georgia’s original 1964 “G.” Georgia is proud that the Packers apparently liked the special nuances of the Bulldogs’ forward-looking “G.”

Georgia’s oval “G”, eventually replacing Georgia’s old block “G” as the official UGA symbol, has stood the test of time. It made its first appearance in the opening game in 1964 and was an immediate hit with the Georgia fans, especially after Dooley’s first three teams were so successful–highlighted by the 1966 SEC Championship.

Rebel Rouser

May 18th, 2009
5:17 pm

Hey Tech Buzz….I guess with your logic…those rings your team ordered after your one win in eight years makes CPJ an inferior coach and should not be viewed as good coach on a national level. Come beat your chest after you have a string of at least seven wins in a row going against UGA. Until then go try to sell tickets to your home games so you can fill up that 45,000 seat high school stadium of your’s.

Sanford Drive

May 18th, 2009
5:18 pm

Well, now that we’ve gotten important things out of the way, like school logos, maybe we can talk football here.

Urban isn’t going anywhere. Sorry. It just isn’t happening. It’s sad we have to worry about him leaving before we think we can beat his team. That’s not the attitude we need to have at all. For one, it sends a bad message to the team. Secondly, UGA can beat UF consistently if they worked for it. People act like it’s impossible. It’s not. If anyone has a shot to beat them this year, it is us. It’s certainly a long-shot, but it is possible.

Can’t wait to see Tebow take snaps from center. Should be interesting.

Dawg-no-more

May 18th, 2009
5:18 pm

Vito

May 18th, 2009
5:23 pm

Hey Rebel Rouser: How many UGA players can read? And how many were arrested in the last year? And how many ex-UGA players work at a Waffle House, which is owned by a TECH grad? Come to think of it, how many UGA graduates work at Waffle House?

Grouse on that for awhile.

Kenny Powers

May 18th, 2009
5:23 pm

If Meyer wins another BCS, he is South Bend bound and down; although I think that would be a stupid, look at Spurrier.

Voice of Reason

May 18th, 2009
5:24 pm

Did you read your entire post before you copped it from Wikipedia? I quote: “However, since its inception in 1961, the Packer’s [sic] “G” has been redesigned several times and now looks like Georgia’s original 1964 “G.”[27]”

Green Bay may have had something like the Georgia G first, but they liked UGA’s so much that they adapted theirs to be more like it. It can hardly be said that UGA “stole” the logo when Green Bay has since altered theirs to look more like the one UGA uses.

Thus, the reality of the story: Green Bay had a “G” logo. UGA created a new logo that was somewhat similar to the Green Bay G. As such, UGA decided to take the safe route and make sure it wasn’t an issue with Green Bay to use a similar logo. Green Bay ended up liking the UGA “version” so much that they have since adopted it in its entirety, team colors not withstanding.

Sanford Drive

May 18th, 2009
5:26 pm

I tried to work at WaHo, but they told me I was over-qualified.

ha

May 18th, 2009
5:28 pm

if you have to ask someone elses permission to use their design, id call that at least ‘borrowing’

Voice of Reason

May 18th, 2009
5:28 pm

Hey Vito – here’s the answer to the “how many UGA players can read” question: http://www.wneg32.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=843:uga-athletics-and-academics&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=18

According to this year’s APR results, UGA is one of the best, football in particular.

The new question is how many stereotypes can Vito drop in one post.

My2cents

May 18th, 2009
5:41 pm

2 league championships in 8 years? That’s a good record, but not great. and Richt is a good coach, but not great. We all like to beat your chest and say our team’s the best. But UGA fans have to know deep down inside that Richt is one of those coaches that is too good to fire, but will never be good enough to go all the way.

Steve

May 18th, 2009
5:47 pm

Rather have Richt than Urban, Saban, Miles, Nutt or Spurrier. Why? He seems to win with class and intergrity. Nobody’s perfect, but to have a better Football Academic performance than Vandy? Wow! He can win and do the student athlete thing also. And he’s come in #2 and #3, so while winning a Nat’l title would be cool, he’s still doing great.

P.S. He plays a great non-conference schedule also, unlike some of the other schools. Alabama plays VT and 3 losers. Fla. plays FSU and 3 losers. We play Oklahoma State, Ga. Tech and Arizona State and 1 loser. And for those who say ASU is not that good, we’ll trade that game to you for one of your loser games.

Gator Growl

May 18th, 2009
5:48 pm

Sanford Drive…you are one perceptive Dawg fan…I remember so clearly when Spurrier was first hired as the Florida coach that his first priority was cchanging the mindset about Georgia. And I’m not just talking about the coaches and players, but the fans mindset as well. He said that it was all in the mind that we could almost never beat Georgia, that we played in Jacksonville, FLORIDA and played in the GATOR bowl and that their team had to fly and the Gators took a short bus trip up…funny how things have gone since and now I hear Georgia fans and writers using Spurriers very own original logic to try to move the venue. We talked about that down here too, during the Dooley years, but nothing ever came of it.

jason

May 18th, 2009
5:50 pm

TS, that wasn’t cheating you boob. I think UGA got 30 yds. worth of penalties for that.

doug

May 18th, 2009
5:57 pm

Until you win it all you can only be good and no better. You have to earn that. Richt has not picked up certain skills that will put him over the top. Namely an inability to motivate his troops big games.
You cant be freinds or a Father to you players. You have to be a boss.
A very tough boss. This will never change. But he is good coach.

Fire Martinez

May 18th, 2009
6:10 pm

Mark likes to say that he has assumed the CEO role over the UGA football program. As CEO he must make the right decisions when it comes to hiring/ firing coaches and selecting which players are on the field come game day. So far Mark has been reluctant to fire Martinez and make the needed adjustments on the defense and kicking game. There have been critical times in several games over the years where Martinez looked to be lost in his defensive scheme that ultimately killed our hopes for the BCS Championship. Mark needs to grow a set and fire Martinez.

Urban Warfare

May 18th, 2009
6:12 pm

doug, I agree with you to an extent but I DO believe you can be a bit of a Father and a bit of a friend, but you have to know exactly how far you can go and with who. It’s almost an art and a fine line you have to walk and since different players respond to different methods, you have to really be able to read the person and situation. I would think that if a coach had some training in Psychology or Counseling or both, that would be a HUGE advantage. It doesn’t give you all the answers by any means, but it really helps you in “picking up cues” as to what makes many people “tick”. I think for the most part, Richt is really good at that. But you don’t always have to rule with an iron hand, but you do have to know which hand to use, when, and with who.

Urban Warfare

May 18th, 2009
6:17 pm

BTW, when I referred to knowing what “makes people tick” it would have probably been better to say “what motivates people” because if you can determine that, then 50% of the battle to achievement is already won.

shane#1

May 18th, 2009
6:33 pm

“Can’t win the big one”, is an utterly stupid statement.Noone can win the big one untill they win it. Does winning a MNC mean that you are a great coach? Ask Phil Fulmer. Does going undefeated make one a great coach? Ask the people that hustled Tubbs out of Auburn. Winning a championship takes being in the right place and a little luck.

Rebel Rouser

May 18th, 2009
6:34 pm

Hey Doug…If my memory serves me right….he motivted his team to a victory over Florida in 07′ and hurt the Florida teams and fans feelings! Was that not a big game …Florida certainly acted like it was. They cried like babies to the media with thier coach faning the flames. How soon people forget!
Just because Mark Richt doesn’t rant and rave in public so the media and football morons like yourself see it and preceive it as good coaching does not make him any less of a coach than Urban Meyer.What would you want for your son….a coach that modivates by belittleing his players in public and constantly looking for media approval or a coach that takes a personal interest in the development and well being of each member of his team…… You wouldn’t know good coaching skills if they bit you on the a$$.

we had a great gameplan but failed to execute

May 18th, 2009
6:40 pm

aaah, but had they polled on gameplanning, coach richt would have won it hands down.

FL DAWG

May 18th, 2009
6:44 pm

Richt is a great coach, his record proves the point. Urban is also a great coach, as are Miles, Saban, Spurrier and several others in the SEC. The competition in the SEC demands great coaches if you are to compete year in and year out. Myer, Miles and Saban deserve credit for their accomplishments. I would put Myer on top with his two NC in his relatively short period. The SEC demands great coaches and the SEC is lucky to have coaches of this caliber. After Myer, I am not sure you can really seperate the others. Yes Miles has the NC and so does Saban, but what are their records against Richt(I confess I don’t know), but they can’t be “dominating” Richt. I am pretty sure Saban vs. Richt is about a split head to head and Miles Vs. Richt is pretty even as well. What you can say is in the years LSU and Saban won NC they had the better team. Especially Saban NC when at LSU. Overall, they are pretty equal with the exception or Myer.

Rusty Squidbillie

May 18th, 2009
6:45 pm

I don’t no much but i do no one thing: you caint get a good degree like my UGA Inglish degree or have a gud futball teem lessun yore futball stadiom holds at leest ninedy thuwsund! Dang, you caint evun lurn to reed an rite good. Go dawgs!

Sanford Drive

May 18th, 2009
7:00 pm

Rebel,

I also remember how the end zone fiasco (while excellent at the time) cost us a lot in 2008. I’ve never seen so many horrible calls from the refs in my life, and it happened all season long. Maybe I’m off base, but I think that endzone dance had a lot to do with those bad calls. Those calls cost us. I’m not saying we would’ve beaten UF by any stretch of the imagination, but bad calls can put a damper on momentum, which is a huge part of college football. I’m sure CMR won’t make that mistake again. UF is so disciplined; as much as we dislike them, you have to admire the way they run their football program. I’m not sure if it’s Meyer or Tebow, or some combination of both, but they’ve got a well-oiled machine down there. There’s not a huge disparity between the quality of players UF gets and the quality of the players that UGA gets. It is all about how you run the program. To me, Meyer has great ‘coaching skills’ and certainly has Richt beat in that area. 2 NCs in 3 years? Holy crap. You can’t deny the facts. I can’t stand Urban Meyer, but he’s a great coach. Period.

Not sure what Richt needs to do to beat that joker, Urban, at his own game, but he needs to figure it out. Quick.

dawgstephen

May 18th, 2009
7:06 pm

How long did it take Bowden to beat Miami regular and win NC?
How long did it take Mack Brown to beat OK regularly?
Peyton Manning NEVER beat the gators

No one questioned them!!! CMR is as good a coach as any in the conference. Shame on you Bill and anyone else who says nothing but NC’s count. Ohh nice job reporting on Jacksonville and letting us know that you havent EVER thought about the gators having a BYE before the UGA game…hadnt researched it. Do your homework before you try and be an expert. IM no expert, but at least i dont claim to be. Im kinda not liking you Bill. Not at all.

Gator Growl

May 18th, 2009
7:07 pm

Rebel Rouser…I would want my son to play for a coach that 1) Will be honest and fair 2) provide an enviornment that encourages academic achievement as well as athletics 3)maximizes his God given football potential 4)Has a genuine concern for my son as an individual and person. This is WHY Meyer is a GREAT coach, thank you very much. And if I’m relying on the coach to be some moral anchor or to teach right or wrong then I HAVE NOT DONE MY JOB AS A FATHER!

Dave

May 18th, 2009
7:24 pm

It really makes you wonder what seperates the really great coaches from the really good coaches(besides the records, of course). Someone earlier mentioned background and training. Wouldn’t it be interesting to check out the background, training or the college degrees of these coaches to see if there’s any relation to their success or lack thereof??? Anybody up for some research?

macrotech

May 18th, 2009
7:36 pm

CMR is a good man and has done a great job reinvigorating the dawg fan base… as a Tech fan, I think he SHOULD get greater respect, but recognize that he has done a good job of NOT being a lightning rod…for this, my respect for him is great! Rebel Rouser, WE DO HAVE A STREAK of eight straight wins against your pups. dd, you, obviously, HAVEN’T been on Tech’s campus…while fewer in numbers, we have a few attractive women…they’re just BRILLIANT! CMR will have the chance to earn a NC and all this talk will become mute! GO TECH!

Rebel Rouser

May 18th, 2009
7:44 pm

Hey Gator Growl…Your not getting sanctimonious on us are you? Are you trying to tell us that Urban is a saint?…..You’re forgetting that most of the players in the SEC come from broken homes… I’ll bet your athletes come from as many families without fathers as do Georgias…. Mark Richt takes a personal interest in each one he recruits and does not toss them aside if they stray while under his watch. Urban Meyer has been known to walk away from his athletes once they stray because he does not want to be personally attached to them. If you don’t believe it then why is it he is never quoted once his athletes get in trouble…he always lets an athletic department spokesman comment on all negative situations that occur with the football players under his watch….. and there have been many incidents that have gone unreported since his arrival.
Please your coach is far from great……the only thing great about Urban Meyer is his EGO! As far as academic achievement is concerned….
Georgia’s football program was recently reported to be #1 in the SEC in graduating its athletes….I believe that Florida was somewhere around 5th or 6th, which is average at best! Nice job Urban!
Encouraging your team to achieve academically and actually acheiving it are the making of a great coach? I’ll take Mark Richt any day when it comes to preparing an athlete for life after football. He also does a great job preparing his athletes to play on the next level as evident in the number of players that are drafted out of UGA each year. Florida doesn’t even come close…..gimmick football will only get you so far!

Mark Richt is a Hypocrite

May 18th, 2009
7:54 pm

Keep Richt and Martinez.UGA will never win a BCS Championship with those clowns..Just a notch above average program..as far as respect? Nobody respect UGA and your coaches.Even god and the referees don’t like UGA! Keep dancing in the endzone and to Souljaboy.

Ferndolin

May 18th, 2009
7:56 pm

Winning the BCS championship is as much about luck as it is tallent, and there is plenty of tallent at UGA, on the field and on the sidelines. A near miss here and there and a timely win by another team and you’re in the game. ‘Ole lady luck’ just hasn’t been there for the Dawgs. Hey, we play in freaking Jacksonville every year. Give me a break! If they want neutral field move it around. Spread the love, man. Don’t dis my man Richt. GO DAWGS!!

Urban Warfare

May 18th, 2009
8:15 pm

Rouser, I can answer some of your questions!..1) Meyer doesn’t make public coments in regards to players in trouble because it is against Florida statutes to do so…basically violates student privacy laws (applies to all students, not just football players). 2) Amoung top graduating rates in college football…2008 National Champ seniors top in the nation with 100% graduation rate. 3) During short tenure at Florida, Meyer has had 4 1st rounders in NFL draft including Jarvis Moss, Derrick Harvey, Reggie Nelson, Percy Harvin…Next question??? You just can’t argue with success my man, although you try.

Ferndolin

May 18th, 2009
8:20 pm

Urban Meyer is a tallented coach and a great recruiter. Florida gets by with a weak non-conference schedule. If florida plays some real tallent (Big 12, Pac 10) early, then maybe the real gators will show up in the heat of SEC battle. WEAK NON_CONFERENCE is Meyers calling card. Give me a break Warfare.

ReptilesRule

May 18th, 2009
8:21 pm

REBEL…Gimmick football??? Haven’t heard that one for a while, at least since the first Meyer NC! Nice try, please play again…

staff fan now

May 18th, 2009
8:25 pm

Hello Dorsey…how did that full stadium help the dogs last fall? On Dooley day?

ps…I like CMR.

Urban Warfare

May 18th, 2009
8:26 pm

Yeah you’re right about our schedule Ferndolin. We need to find a way to get Georgia off our schedule so we can upgrade…

DawginLex

May 18th, 2009
8:29 pm

No way Spurrier is even in the same breath with the top coaches today in the league. He is done. After NC State wipes the mat with them on opening night, watch for http://www.firespurrier.com to go wild. couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

On to Coach Richt. If ya’ll don’t mind, I say we keep him. He is better than dooley who is the best we have had in 50 years. Do you want to go back to 6-6 or 5-7? Do you want to be fighting for 5th place in the East with Kentucky every year? 2008 was a down year just like 2006. We won 19 games those 2 years people!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let him leave and then you will realize what we have.

Ferndolin

May 18th, 2009
8:39 pm

Warfare. Really. So you don’t agree that FL non-conference is weak. The Citadel? Come on. All that does is pad numbers for all those 1st rounders you speak of. Among other things, I want to see Teebow cry!! once again at the hands of Georgia before he plays on Sundays. How about FL opening up with ASU or OSU. Not a chance. They are too sqeemish early in the season and don’t want to test their boys. I get it, lets just sneak up on the SEC and surprise ‘em, all heatlhy from not playing real football. I AM A GATOR HATER!!

The Truth

May 18th, 2009
8:42 pm

Hey Urban Warfare….Way to make up the graduating stats….I take it you only had 5 or 6 prople graduating in 2008 since all you Gator fans keep telling us is how young you are and “everyone” is coming back. As far as the NFL is concerned you don’t even place in the top ten in the total number of players playing in the league.Percy Harvin is a class act though…I guess when the coach told him to “get up” for each game he took him literally….Dink and dunk football might work in college but it does not work in the NFL….if you are an offensive player and want to make it in the NFL you need to play in a big boy system.As far as Meyer making comments about his players…I looked it up and there is no such statute in the state of Florida regarding commenting on an athlete in trouble with the law….nice try though…did you not think we wouldn’t check behind you? The problem with Florida fans is that they truly believe the world of college football starts with them…just remember when your golden boy leaves and you start to lose, everyone you talked down to while you were on top is going to beat you down as hard as they can…..and enjoy every minute of it.

Ferndolin

May 18th, 2009
8:45 pm

The Truth. You the man.

DawginLex

May 18th, 2009
8:49 pm

Any florida fan that doesn’t believe there will be a dropoff when Tebow leaves is either:

1.) Delusional
2.) an idiot
3.) All of the above

I have said it before, Tebow is florida’s Herschel. He is the ultimate difference maker. Brantley and others can have all the talent in the world but they aren’t Tebow. And yes, Tebow did help Leak in 2006. Don’t you remember Leak getting booed? No Tebow=No titles.

Urban Warfare

May 18th, 2009
8:50 pm

Or the woman.

ReptilesRule

May 18th, 2009
8:53 pm

Hey Delusional Dawgs, this is scary, isn’t it…Heeeeeeeeerssss Johnny! Ho-Hum, another couple of years of doggy training!

Ferndolin

May 18th, 2009
8:55 pm

Yes, Warfare. I should have been more gender sensitive. But the Truth is, FL will NOT repeat ‘09.

Gator Growl

May 18th, 2009
8:58 pm

Wahhh! Wahhh! Wait till Tebow leaves! Wait till Meyer leaves! Wait till we get the game moved! Wait till Martinez leaves! Wait till Aaron Murray starts! Wait till Richt grows a pair! Wahhh! Wahhh!

B

May 18th, 2009
9:01 pm

How many times has Tech beat UGA since Mark Richt was hired? 1!!! HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA

Urban Warfare

May 18th, 2009
9:01 pm

Hey Techies…handle our lightwork…

The Truth

May 18th, 2009
9:01 pm

Hey Urban Warfare…Man or Woman….I’m The Truth ….and back in the slimy swamp you call your brain you know I speak “The TRUTH”. BEWARE OF “THE TRUTH”….it will eventually beat you down!

Urban Warfare

May 18th, 2009
9:10 pm

No what you need to do is go back to the Psych Ward my man (or is it my woman?). Your as close to the The Truth as an oil executive and just as slimy…And come on down to the Swamp…the waters fine…

S.E. Dawg

May 18th, 2009
9:22 pm

The people voting in the poll must be the same people that vote in the BCS standings. They rarely get it right.

The Truth

May 18th, 2009
9:27 pm

I can tell right now that you will be sweating out every game the Gators play this year…knowing that if they lose…you won’t be able to show your face in public for a long time….remember “The Truth” knows all and eventually wins out.
Since you know everything about Gator football you must answer one question for me.How are you keeping Lawrence Marsh in school….his grades were so bad in high school… Georgia,S.Carolina and Clemson didn’t even recruit him because he couldn’t get into their schools….but he got in Florida…how’d that happen? Someone once said if it smells fishy it must be fishy…or Florida.

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
9:35 pm

…”he should have fired somebody for the 3rd quarter against the trade school alone”…. Richt blames himself for that, as it was HE who made the decision to walk through drills rather than live tackling in practise for the last half of the season. That’s going to be awkward.

PTC Jacket

May 18th, 2009
9:37 pm

CMR gets enough respect for his position. I honestly think he gets a lot of publicity for having an outstanding winning percentage AND not winning an NC’s. Sorry, but in today’s world of college football, it’s about the now, and not the “who has been doing good in the past 8 years”. CMR is a great coach, don’t get me wrong, but he gets enough respect for what he does (and doesn’t do).

B:
How many times has UGA beaten Tech since CPJ was hired? None.

staff fan now

May 18th, 2009
9:51 pm

Mr Alt dog….I loved that third quarter!

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
9:59 pm

Worst 2 years totaled 19 wins. Great point DawginLex.

Still waiting an answer as to how so many Dawg fans know Nick Saban so well. “he doesnt except anything but perfection”. PLEASE! What, He said it while talking in third party about himself in an ESPN interview? Hasnt really worked very well, has it?

I think one of the things to note is that Coach Richt just doesnt pat himself on the back as much as some of the other guys do. But don’t try to read into who demands what behind closed doors, from a couple of sound bytes

Paddy

May 18th, 2009
10:05 pm

Meyer is not going anywhere. Where would you rather live, Gainsville,Fl or Notre Dame,In?

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
10:10 pm

Somebody was telling me yesterday, that he knows about what Richt “demands” based on what he said after a couple of closer than needed victories last year. Really? (as if anyone really know everything he said last year, and it’s always in context) He didn’t blast his team in the local media after the game. He didn’t throw his players under the bus publically, so he is just not insisting on perfection. geez.

Oddly when he did suggest last year, and as i recall he didnt offer it up, but was answering persistant questions about who he was going to fire midseason, that part of the equation was that player had to perform, along with his coaches had to put them into position, he got ripped in here for suggesting that his players could do any better.

frogator

May 18th, 2009
10:25 pm

Even though I’m a Gator grad I must admit that I like CMR as a coach and person. He’s got an incredible record on the field and seems to be a great person off the field. I don’t understand the UGA fans on this post that aren’t happy with him. So he hasn’t won a national title yet. I think we all understand that a lot of luck goes into that. See UCLA beating USC in ‘06. No way that should have happened. We (UF) got lucky there. In ‘07 UGA was unfortunate in that they picked the wrong day to lay an egg against UT. I have no doubt that UGA would have beaten LSU (without their starting QB) in the SECCG and then they’d be the ones that would have beaten the crap out of Ohio State for the NC.

So he’s only 2-6 against UF. He would be 3-5 if Shockley hadn’t got hurt (But then again, if Tebow wasn’t hurt in ‘07 he might still only be 2-6, but that’s not my point). My point is that we (UF) have been the best team in the country for 2 of those games, and the better team between the two of us in 3 other games. The only game I can think of that he should have won but didn’t was ‘05.

I believe CMR will win a national title in the next 4 years. Probably not this year, but it could be as early as 2010. You all should really hope that we (UF) wins it again this year because with every title an SEC team wins it makes it that much easier for everyone else in the conference. If we win it in ‘09 that will be 4 in a row for the SEC. Then in 2010 when we are in a rebuild/reload year, all you or any other team in the SEC will have to do is win the SEC and you’ll almost certainly be in the title game. I always want an SEC team to win it all. I was pulling for LSU big time in ‘07. I’ll pull for UGA when they get there. Not sure I’d pull for UT though. Kiffen’s a douche! True story: A friend of mine went to the supermarket to buy a douche. When she got home and opened the box……..Lane Kiffin was inside!

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
10:30 pm

Everyone deserves to enjoy 1 quarter every 8 years or so.

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
10:34 pm

frogator, hellooooo…trying to hate the gators here…you’re confusing us.

frogator

May 18th, 2009
10:39 pm

AltamahaDawg, sorry for the confusion. UGA SUCKS! Is that better?

AltamahaDawg

May 18th, 2009
10:43 pm

You bet your jorts.

Tide rising

May 18th, 2009
10:44 pm

I think just about everyone agrees that CMR is an excellent coach but there are 2 reasons why he’s not getting the full respect he deserves. The first is obvious. Fair or unfair the lack of a national title while the other aforementioned coaches have one is the biggest obstacle.

The other one that no one seems to be talking about or clued in on is his inability to beat his biggest rival the gators on a consistent basis. He is living in Urban Meyer’s shadow and if his futility against the gators continues another 2-3 years it will probably be his downfall. Even the most ardent CMR supporters have to agree that there are only so many losses you can have against your biggest rival despite his overall success.

He is a good man and an excellent coach but unless he can start beating the Urban legend on a more consistent basis.

CMR reminds me of Mack Brown at Texas. Nice guy, very well respected but never getting his full respect because of domination by his biggest rival and the lack of a national title on top of that. Mack Brown at UT was getting whipped by Bob Stoops at OU for the first 4 or maybe 5 years he was there from 2000-2004. Then he broke through in 2005, whipped OU and in the process won the national title. He has now won 3 of 4 against OU, the monkey is off his back, he has the full nationwide respect that he deserves, and he has teams that now are now consistently in the talk for a run at the national title.

Will Richt do the same?

Tide rising

May 18th, 2009
10:52 pm

frogator,

Good joke on Lane Kiffin. Now THAT is a guy who will never garner the respect of his peers or of the nation in general. He has managed to turn the entire fan base of the sec against him and is gonna take some serious beatdowns this year. I think he’s gone in 2 years and I certainly hope so. A big time program like Tennessee certainly deserves better than this azzclown.

Sanford Drive

May 18th, 2009
10:53 pm

Whether we like it or not, the bottom line is, people won’t give Richt any credit until he wins the crystal trophy.

Next topic.

BS Patrol

May 18th, 2009
10:58 pm

Swimmin’ pools, bowlin’ balls. Like I said before last season started, soft practices = soft teams. Way too many no-touch jerseys, doggies.

Rebel Rouser,
Revelation! The football coach doesn’t prepare these students for life. The school does. And in that vein, I think we all know which ones are serious about that.

dan

May 19th, 2009
12:03 am

Hey Gator Fans,

Congrats on beating UGA last season, but let’s have some perspective here, Your team is one season removed from losing to UGA, and you’re 3-2 versus the Dawgs the last 5 years. And except for the last two meetings, the games are usually pretty even match ups. You Gators act like you’re going to win the next 6 in a row, and I’m here to tell you that that is just not going to happen. UGA will get a few wins here and there, and don’t be surprised if this game this season is closer than you think, even with Tebow.

Chuck Uga

May 19th, 2009
12:05 am

Spring game attendance means nothing. UGA will never have 90,000 in the stands. Plus, injuries to so many players dampens the enthusiasm of traveling 3-5 hours to see the game.

As far as the Crystal Ball, as much as I hate to say it, Richt may or may not win a NC during his career in Athens. If he does, it will only be one title. Why? Because our schedule is always a problem. Florida, Auburn and Tech to end the year is a HUGE issue. Also, we’ve only beaten Tennessee and Florida in the same season ONE TIME in 20 years (1988). Circumstances play against us (UF up while Miami and FSU are WAY down), Auburn always plays well against us when they are a poor team, Tech is now a much better program than they were and the rest of the conference is LOADED with great coaches. We will make a title game by sheer luck…just like UF and LSU have done recently. I also am not completely sold on CMR’s staff. We will see what happens, but I think we can be very thankful that we are in the mix annually whereas before Richt we were not a serious contender.

In fact, don’t expect Saban to have the same degree of success at Bama as he had at LSU. LSU always had a much easier schedule because of the “placement” of key games on their schedule. Bama doesn’t have that luxury. Plus, Bear has been dead for years(!)

dawg fan that hates Kool-aid

May 19th, 2009
12:46 am

Richt will never win it all. Way too soft on the players and the coaching staff around him. He is a very good OC, but lacks the steel to make the tough decisions necessary to reach a MNC. VanGorder experienced this and read the writing on the wall,went back to coordinator.

dawg3fan4

May 19th, 2009
12:52 am

The only difference was that for Saban, Spurrier and Meyer a 1 loss season got them into the NCG so I don’t want to hear how they cashed in when Richt didn’t. Other than how other teams around the country did in the year that each of the coaches had a 1 loss season the coaches of the other teams did nothing more than Richt did in his second season to earn a trip to the NCG. As for Miles he had a 2 loss season to win it all, that is defiantly a matter of luck more than being better than Richt’s 13-1 season. So yes you can count the national titles but that is not the only measure of a coach. Tubbberville at AU is the only coach currently in the SEC who has had an undefeated season and did not slip up at all during a season. If the other coaches were so good why did they all lose one in the season they won it all. Give me a break. Thanks for coming out…

dawg3fan4

May 19th, 2009
12:56 am

Tide Rising- Before I posted I missed your post. Great thoughts. Others to include in that group are Tom Osborne until his last 4 years coaching was considered someone who couldn’t win the big one, then won 3 titles in 4 years. Bowden at FSU prior to 1993 was in that group. If Richt keeps putting together 10+ win seasons eventually he will have his break through then people will question if it was a fluke and can he do it again.

dawg fan that hates Kool-aid

May 19th, 2009
1:11 am

Saban,Meyer,& Spurrier( at least in the past ) are prepared to win the Big games. I think Richt struggles in this catagory.

dawg3fan4

May 19th, 2009
2:50 am

What big games have they won (other than the NCG which you can’t say how he will do because he hasn’t coached in one) that Richt hasn’t? 6-2 in bowl games, 2-1 in SEC championship games. Winning record against every team in SEC except UF. 7-1 against GA Tech. 30-4 on the road. What big games is he doing so terrible in?

Cuz

May 19th, 2009
7:18 am

I remember it like it was yesterday, was it yesterday? I went over to CMR’s after covering a practice. I told him I was thirsty and asked for water. He poured me som kool-aid. I said I wanted water. He told me to drink. Not wanting to raise a stink, I had already done that in his downstairs bathroom, I drank the kool-aid. Funny flavor, cross between almonds anc bovine fecal matter. He then told me crystal footballs break, ask Orson Charles. He spoke and I went into a dream,
AHHHHH. AHHH,AHHHH,AHHHH,AHHHHH.AHHHHHH

I read the news today oh boy. The 80 Dawgs had just won the war. A crowd of people turned away. But I just had to look, Dooley signed my book. I need to turn—the—-light—-on…….

And that is all I remember. But I have a strange craving to go to Britain and ride a double decker bus. And walk barefoot across Abbey Road. Gotta go, Bill Shatner is on the phone about my air-fare.

AltamahaDawg

May 19th, 2009
7:32 am

prepared to win the Big game…….could you say anything more made up and pointless? What the heck does that even mean?

I could say that any loss during the midseason that kept those guy from being in the MNC game on any particular year was the Big game, and they blew it, just totally unprepared I guess. That includes losses that SHOULD have kept them out of the NC picture until some other team’s loss, coached by an equally unprepared coach, cleared the way.

If you are talking about the actual NC game, I’m not sure how you judge Richt’s struggle in that. If you mean the Big game that gets you in, he has won the SECCG a couple of time, which is exactly what the other guy needed to do to get in. What Big games are you talking about?

BTW, what decisions necessary to reach a NC did VanGorder realize that he didnt have the Steel for in his one year as a HC of D1AA school? That’s some damn acidic decisions there, I got to tell you.

GaDawg

May 19th, 2009
7:34 am

It’s a fact. Dooley was a big Lombardi fan so so he incorpratd the “G” logo for his Dawgs, but he tweeked it to the Oval “G” that we still use today. Greenbay liked the new “G” logo and decided to copy it.Check it out on the official University of Georgia Website. Now shut up! oh yea and HA!

Saint Simons

May 19th, 2009
7:39 am

i see UGA bought them another win, playing louisiana-lafyette!

AltamahaDawg

May 19th, 2009
7:48 am

Jacksonville State was busy.

MyBigOldHairyButt

May 19th, 2009
7:55 am

The toothless dog fans whistling when they speak do not seem to realize you are not jack. Richt winning 10 but not the SEC nor BCS, will cost him his job. You have the talent but lack the heart and substance to win the big prize. Kiss it!!

YoMama

May 19th, 2009
7:58 am

No one can deny that Mark Richt is a fine coach. And, what he has done to improve the UGA football team and the fan base after the dissapointing years of Goff and Donnan is undeniable. Until Georgia is able to consistently beat Florida, win more SEC crowns, and win a National Championship will Mark Richt move into the “great” or “best” profile. Nevertheless, at least as I am concerned, what he has done for Georgia, should be appreciated by every Georgia fan. If Goff or Donnan were still in charge we would be wondering if we would ever make it to an SEC Championship Game. Thanks to Richt we are a competitive program and even with an embarrasing loss to, for example, Alabama, we have beaten the Crimson Tide in the prior three games, and twice in Tuscaloosa; something no other Georgia coach has ever done. And even in the loss this year, the team never quit and at least made an effort to come back. Most teams would have given up after the way Alabama took control of that game. We may not have a “great” coach, but we sure do have a far superior coach then what we have had to endure since Coach Dooley retired.

dawgstephen

May 19th, 2009
8:25 am

Pete Carroll has 7 straight 11 win seasons But only 1 NC.
Is he a failure too??

NC’s are not the measure of a big time coach.
With luck just like LSU and FLA have had in 02, 05, 07, then we have played for 3 NC’s and probably won 1 0r 2.

Well well said FROgator.

richtfan

May 19th, 2009
8:31 am

Mark Richt has not won the mnc yet, but he has produced sustained excellence as shown by his overall record. ESPN is a me-generation type of medium, and it’s all about what you’ve done for me lately or who can be put on the screen or in a soundbyte that can make them some ratings quickly. That’s all they care about. They know that Saban and Meyer will say anything to hype their team or to use their excessive arrogance and braggadoccio to quip about their team or another one. They are both the modern day Spurrier. Mark Richt is a background, reserved, blue collar type coach not seeking the media spotlight. that’s why he doesn’t get the respect he’s rightfully earned.

Vero Beach Gator

May 19th, 2009
9:24 am

Mark Richt is a good coach, probably #3 or #4 in the SEC. But, with all the talent that Meyer has at UF and with his coaching staff, Richt will not beat UF while Meyer is there–not enough talent, plus Richt tightens up in that game, and UgA never seems to play up to their level of talent. The only year that Richt beat Meyer, Tebow was hurt and was ineffective and Florida’s defense was terrible due to Zook’s recruiting.

FalconUGAFan

May 19th, 2009
9:41 am

CMR is a tremendous coach and I hope he stays at UGA as long as he wants and we continue being successful. There is a vast difference between Richt and the other coaches mentioned. His mentality seems to be serve His God, raise his players into men and have fun winning games. His opposition (Meyer, Saban, not sure about Miles) seem to be win the games, win the NC. He will never get the media and national respect that the other coaches get. And frankly I don’t think he cares as long as the things I mentioned occur. He just isn’t a bottom line guy like the others, IMHO. He will always keep the DAWGs competitive and Lord willing, give us a NC someday. Go Dawgs!

MyBigOldHairyButt

May 19th, 2009
10:00 am

The oval G on my hat stands for Go Kiss MyBigOldHairyButt.

Jake

May 19th, 2009
10:20 am

UGA plays in the same conference as those other great coaches. Yes Richt hasn’t won a championship, but with that arguement why does Tressel get all the hype he does? Do you think Pete Carroll, Mack Brown, Bob Stoops, or Tressel would be as good as they are if they played in the SEC? I personally don’t think so. I believe you would still be seeing the same leaderboard. I’ll keep our winning coach!!

GaDawg

May 19th, 2009
10:21 am

The Georgia “G” Helmet
In 1963 after becoming the Bulldogs’ Head Football Coach, Vince Dooley redesigned the football uniform choosing a red helmet with a black “G” on a white background as the dominant feature of the new uniform for the 1964 season.

He discussed with his staff that a forward-looking “G” would be an appropriate emblem for the helmet of the Georgia team. Dooley had just hired John Donaldson, former Georgia player from 1945 to 1948, as backfield coach. John was keen on the idea of a new image and volunteered his wife, Anne, who had a BFA in commercial art from UGA to design a logo for the new Georgia helmet with the general specifications Dooley had outlined. Dooley accepted Anne’s original “G” which fit his vision for a forward look to Georgia’s new emblem.

Since the Georgia “G”- though different in design and color- was similar to Green Bay’s “G”, Coach Dooley thought it best to clear the use of Georgia’s new emblem with the NFL team. Athletic Director Joel Eaves called for permission which was granted. However, since its inception in 1961, the Green Bay “G” has been redesigned several times and now looks like Georgia’s original 1964 “G.” Georgia is proud that the Packers apparently liked the special nuances of the Bulldogs’ forward-looking “G.”

Georgia’s oval “G”, eventually replacing Georgia’s old block “G” as the official UGA symbol, has stood the test of time. It made its first appearance in the opening game in 1964 and was an immediate hit with the Georgia fans, especially after Dooley’s first three teams were so successful–highlighted by the 1966 SEC Championship

tom

May 19th, 2009
10:40 am

I’ve been saying this for a couple years now. Mark Richt just doesn’t have the same mentality as Saban or Spurrier. Nick Saban has a killer instinct. I watched Bama beat down on us like it was an unmatched street fight. Spurrier just doesn’t have the talent. I guess all those years of running up the score at Florida comes back to haunt you. I regret to agree, but until Coach Richt wins the crystal football, he’ll always be that good ole christian coach. But hey, Bowden did it. Why can’t Mark?

uuugh.

May 19th, 2009
11:09 am

If we can all agree that an early loss is not as hurtful as a late loss in respect to playing for the MNC…why don’t we move the UGA UF game to the first game of the season. It is the game UGA is most likely to lose every year…and should be UF’s biggest test every year too. Both teams have a bunch of off-weeks before hand…and the jean short crew should love the idea of starting the season with the superbowl a-la the Daytona 500. This would help both teams chances of reaching a BCS game regardless of who wins.

dawgrific

May 19th, 2009
11:13 am

Coach Richt is a GREAT person, and a GREAT fottball coach, and UGA will get their crystal piece soon enough. I totallt agree with the sentiment that he is the knid of guy that you , or any decent parent, would want to send their kid to play for for 4-5 years. I can’t say that about many of the supposed superior coaches that rank above him. the arrogant Meyer has NO class (see 3 timeouts last year) and NO integrity (see him cussing out his punter on field on national tv), and rules his program like a grumpy king, and God help you if you criticize him for ANYTHING (ask Shane Matthews). Florida fans would , or at least should, admit that he is a great football coach, but an a-hole who is obviously allowed to be one because he wins. He makes the old Steve Spurrier seem laid back and humble, which I believe says it all. Miles is a clown, and that will become more and more obvious as time goes by, and Saban wears himself and everyone else around him out in a 3-4 year span. Anyways, I certainly want a NC badly, and I do believe that CMR’s loyalty may hurt him, as evidenced with the Willie Martinez situation, but I wouldn’t trade him and all of the correct things he stands for for any other coach in America. He loves our school, and he loves his job, and he loves his community, but most of all he loves his players (surrogate children) and that leads to stability and long-term success. GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kendawg

May 19th, 2009
11:38 am

Considering what happened to Tuberville and Fulmer, Coach Richt has done an amazing job of consistently winning. Personally, I wouldn’t trade him for any other coach in football, college or pro. The key must be recruiting, as well as coaching, for he gets very good talent every year. I can’t wait until Marlon Brown, Orson Charles, and Aaron Murray have matured and are contributing to the program. It may be this fall. Regardless of polls, we are lucky to have CMR at UGA.

FalconUGAFan

May 19th, 2009
11:46 am

dawgrific, Very well said. That is what I tried to say, but you stated it very well. Go Dawgs!!!

rabiddawg

May 19th, 2009
12:47 pm

dawgrific is 100% correct in his post. Coach Richt will have a crystal football eventually. Heck if either Fred Gibson OR Damien Gary play in the 2002 GA FLA game or if Edwards doesn’t drop that pass than UGA would have been undefeated. Instead we lose 20 – 13 to FLA and settle for FSU in the Sugar Bowl. In 2005, if JD Stokely (just kidding) would have played, we would have beaten FLA and maybe not lost to Auburn with him coming off an injury and definetely not lost to WVU. Instead we lose 14 -10 to FLA, and 31 to 30 to Aubie. We have the best and classiest coach in the sec BY FAR. When other schools are after assistant coaches and they stay at UGA for Richt and less money, that says it all. In a long round about way, I’m saying that we will win a Championship under Richt. There is no doubt in my mind. When that finally happens, and Urban Meyer has jumped to Notre Dame to inflate his ego further, and Saban has left Bama for another job, and Miles is still clowning around, and Spurrier has retired (finally), and Tenn is about on their third coach after the disater that will be Kiffin, we UGA fans will still have a top tier program, with a top tier coach, a coach who loves Athens and our program.

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May 19th, 2009
1:28 pm

I’ll take Mark Richt over any coach out there today. He’s bought into what we love so much about our Dawgs, made them better over a longer period of time than any coach since Vince, and has adopted Athens and the University of Georgia as his own. He’s not looking for a job every off season or pretending to in order to leverage his position and increase his salary. He’s happy here! He provides the right example for our young men and tries to instill a sense of moral direction and responsibility in their lives. I know some will respond with ignorance and hate by pointing out athlete arrests but in the end each of us are responsible for ourselves. Richt can only lead. But it’s up to the player to follow. And most of them do. I have no problem with him taking a chance on a deserving athlete who’s a marginal but well-behaved student. A kid like that who’s trying hard and successfully earns his degree can have a heck of an impact in this world . . . and I’m not talking about just in sports. Richt understands the possibilities of positively affecting the lives of others through his position as Head Football Coach of the University of Georgia better than anyone who has ever held that position. He doesn’t just talk the talk . . . he also walks the walk. He’s active in his faith. He’s honest and he personally cares about each of his players. He wins and I’m convinced that he will win a national championship at Georgia before he’s through. And I hope he has a Paterno-like career at Georgia in terms of longevity and overall success. What else could we ever ask for in a coach? The only time I ever get a little upset with CMR is when I think he might be better served by being more demanding and a little less loyal to assistant coaches who don’t consistently bring out the best in their charges. And only then it’s because I know such efforts can bring unexpected losses and eventually cause some, even though Richt’s proven himself time and time again, to lose confidence in his abilities. Make no doubt about it I want to win another NC so bad I can’t stand it. But I want to win it with Mark Richt at the helm and don’t give a rat’s hiney what ESPN or anyone else says about him. The University of Georgia has prospered under CMR but the best is yet to come.

AWJ (UGA Alumni)

May 19th, 2009
1:38 pm

I would rather wait for the DAWGS to win a MNC the right way, than to win it the wrong way sooner. If you don’t understand what I mean by that, don’t bother asking because you would not understand anyway.

Go DAWGS and CMR!!!!!

Saint Simons

May 19th, 2009
2:24 pm

Roddy Jones just scored again!!!!!!!!! hahahhahahahahaahaahaha

richtfan

May 19th, 2009
3:28 pm

HEY dAVE IN tAMPA

do you think Tom Osborne was a “loser” all those years that he wasn’t winning national titles? And then finally, suddenly, overnight he was a “winner” the day after he won his first title?

shards1967

May 19th, 2009
3:32 pm

Winning and losing is what it is all about. A national title is KEY to high ratings for any coach. Frankly, Vince Dooley was so over rated in his time. I was a student at UGA in late 60s, early 70s and Dooley was not considered great, at that time. By then, he had won at least two or three SEC titles. Auburn and Oklahoma and maybe one other school tried to lure Vince away and most of us then, hoped that he would leave. In 1980 and 81,82,83 he had great teams with one TITLE. Today, he is by all standards of evaluating coaches, very highly respected.
With Richt, one national TITLE and then, another great year before or after THE TITLE year, he too will be a lock on being considred great, all things considered. The TITLE is what is holding him back.

TS

May 19th, 2009
3:36 pm

CMR’s farts smell like a Tahitian breeze and he poops gold dubloons.

UGA ALWAYS CHOKE

May 19th, 2009
5:59 pm

CHOKE!!! THE OFFICAL DRINK OF THE GEORGIA BULLDAWGS !

beanuga

May 19th, 2009
7:12 pm

Saban came into Alabama with a huge talent on both sides of the ball. Meyer also stepped into a gold mine. MR will win a NC. MR is a outstanding coach. Go Dawgs!

Richt = Richard Simmons

May 19th, 2009
9:04 pm

That is why Richt gets zero respect. He is a darn cheer leader.

BobDog

May 19th, 2009
10:13 pm

Give me a break. Richt is a great coach. I wouldn’t swap him for any of the other three ahead of him. Just another lackluster ten-win year.

The spring game doesn’t tell you a thing about the team. I watched the spring game on TV. Glad I recorded it because I fell asleep two nights trying to get through it before I could finish it the third night. I am glad I didn’t waste my time going. Plus, it was Masters weekend.

wreckmaniac

May 19th, 2009
10:36 pm

Winning the nat champ may mean something for some UGA fans but Richt realizes that he can stay in Athens forever as long as he has a top 10 recruting class and beats Tech most of the time. That is all that is required. Why make life harder than it has to be ?

dawg fan that hates Kool-aid

May 20th, 2009
1:48 am

Alt-dawg,
The big games I am refering to include the regular season UF & UT games.If we can’t win both of these games in the same year we can,t win the sec east, if we can’t win the sec east we can’t win the sec.If we can’t win the sec we can’t win a MNC.I do not expect to win these games every year,but his percentages in these two games are not so good.
That said,I think CMR is the best coach UGA has had in recent history.
As for VanGorder,I never said he was a MNC contender,I said he realized he was not a head coach after his experiences at GA. Southern.

dawg fan that hates Kool-aid

May 20th, 2009
3:14 am

Dawg3fan4
Thanks for your civility,disagreement is what a blog is all about.Some children think personal attacks are necessary when they have opposing opinions.
Richt has a very good road record,and a very good bowl record.However,his record at Sanford (SEC games)& his record in JAX are not so good.

jerry

May 20th, 2009
7:39 am

What Dawg fans want is another 1980 powerhouse-you know the one that recovered their own kickoff on the ND two yard line,(which put a big dent in the “luck of the Irish myth”). The powerhouse that was out gained almost 2-1, punted more times than they had 1st downs, and whose QB was 1-12 for 7 yards . That is the powerhouse that they long for. A real f–king juggernaught. At least Richt can recruit a decent QB.

Preston

May 20th, 2009
8:50 am

As far as I’m concerned, UGA has won 2 MNC’s in the Richt era. The SEC champ is the best team in the country hands down. They just don’t always get to play for the crystal. When they do…they win! USC, Ohio State, and Oklahoma are overrated every freakin year and they get exposed in bowl season. SEC Champ=National Champ.

KB

May 20th, 2009
10:01 am

When you play weak non conference teams do you want respect?

KB

May 20th, 2009
10:02 am

win a national championship and stop dreaming about the days of Doley

Mobile Dawg

May 20th, 2009
10:30 am

What’s the definition of insanity? Most of the bloggers who come on here, sometimes I don’t even know why I continue to read some of this nonsense.

Mark Richt is a class guy who for some reason hasn’t had all the breaks yet. Hopefully that will come. What’s the alternative, fire him? Who are you going to get? I don’t agree with a lot of the decisions or what I see on the field at times, but sour grapes get me nowhere except down. The day I let the results of a football game cloud my perspective on what’s truly important in life will be the day I run down and see the shrink for some mind altering meds.

Until then I will continue to support my Dawgs through thick and thin and enjoy Autumn weekends for what they are, glorious. A new year brings us eternal hope. Good luck Dawgs.

Cuz, I read your 0718 post and you must have been deep in the solvent last night brother.

K

May 20th, 2009
11:04 am

Coach Richt is a great guy. We all know that. We know he has integrity and is a wonderful family man. But, Richt lacks killer instinct. And that will continue to plague Georgia as long as here is here. We play down to the level of our competition, so when it’s time to get up for big games we don’t even show up! That is sad for a school with as much talent as Georgia.

Wes Stansbury

May 20th, 2009
2:00 pm

Mark is just the best. He wins,but not at any cost. He could have made 22 excuses last year, but he didn’t. These dawgs (09) are going to bite.

59bulldawg

May 20th, 2009
2:04 pm

I hear you K about the killer instinct. I’d love to see us go full-bore for 4 quarters and not let up until the final whistle. But most teams, even great ones sometimes have these problems. Do you remember back in 1976 when we turned one of Bear’s Bama teams every which way but loose and beat them 21-0 in Athens? Yes I know it wasn’t one of the Tide’s best but it was very decent 9-3 team. And then the next week we traveled to Ole Miss and lost 21-17. Dooley’s teams also had occasional problems staying motivated and playing down to the competition. 48-10 smackdowns like the Hawaii game are rare and even then Hawaii should have never been in the Sugar Bowl to begin with because they were tremendously overmatched. I realize that for the last several years we seem to have played down to the competition in a lot of games. But also consider that we have had a number of key injuries and suspensions as well. We’ve also had to move a lot of other players around into other positions. That’s certainly enough reason for players to play tentatively but throw that in with a couple of assistant coaches whose problems are well documented on this blog and I think it goes a long way towards explaining the absence of a consistently high level of play. Assistant coaches are just like players in that you must have the right people in key places to have a chance to be good. In short Willie’s got to get it done this season. And one final thing we should remember is that it always take a certain amount of luck no matter how good you are. Just ask the 2008 Texas team. Heck just think back to the breaks LSU had in winning the NC a few years back. So far in Richt’s tenure, Lady Luck has not often been on our side. Hopefully that will change and I am optimistic. But hey I’m like most Georgia fans in that inconsistency or lack of killer instinct or whatever you want to call it drives me absolutely bonkers.

PHIL

May 21st, 2009
4:39 pm

Mickey Mouse could coach winners at Florida. If Spurrier weer still there, he’d have won those championships. Cryer did do well at Utah, but he wins at UF because he has the players, period. Our defensive players were OVER RATED last year as far as talent, not to mention the injuries. Offense put up record numbers so I can’t say they under achieved, other than Staffords blunders.

I wouldn’t have that weasel Saban represent my school if he won 50 in a row. If he’s so smart, why didn’t he do better in the pro’s? Houston Nutt is the most underrated coach in the SEC. He does more with less than anyone. Why AR would let him go for the loser they have is beyond reasoning. People who judge a D1 college coach by his MNC only, wins only for that matter, are idiots.

Jim

May 22nd, 2009
10:34 pm

While I bleed Red and Black of the Bulldogs the fact remains that respect is earned. It’s hard to get that respect when Florida, Alabama, and Georgia Tech whipped us as they did last year.

pit bull

May 22nd, 2009
11:22 pm

Mark Richt used to coach hard. He doesn’t anymore. I think he will in the future. But he did take it easy last year for sure. He gave the offense to Bobo, the defense away, and he just relaxed. The results were to be expected!

Mike Bobo 17 INT

May 23rd, 2009
10:01 am

The media confirms what I have been saying all along, CMR does not have the respect of the media because he cannot win the big ones. UGA will always be viewed as an overrated program, and winning 2 SEC titles does not bring much respect to CMR; however, winning a national title (See UF, USC and Texas) brings much more respect to a coach.

I cannot figure out why the UGA fan base has no clue about CMR. FSU let him go for a reason, he does not have what it takes to get you a title. He does not have the intensity, discpiline, drive and coaches to create a championship program at UGAY.

Like I said, CMR will be gone in 5 years or less from today, and it could be 3, unless you learn how to beat UF. GT is not a great program, but P Johnson is a superior coach. Example: he took the leftovers from Gailey and throttled a preseason #1 pick on their home turf. This is the biggest reason CMR gets no respect, nor does the UGAY program.

All the yelling, and blogging in the world cannot remove the fact that UGAY has only won 1 absolute national title in 116 years, which is a piss poor winning percentage. But please, keep paying those booster fees and buying those tickets, which is the reason UGAY can just keep doing what they are doing…

Mike Bobo 17 INT

May 23rd, 2009
10:02 am

Thank you Jim, I respect your opinion. Until the UGAY fan base starts hammering on their program and coaching staff, they are going nowhere…I mean nowhere….

Mike Bobo 17 INT

May 23rd, 2009
10:04 am

Sanford Drive

You could have had every referee in your backpocket, and you still would have gotten drilled by UF. This is what I am talking about. UGAY gets drilled by UA and UF with what was suppose to be a top-talented team, and UGAY fans start throwing around excuses.

This is also why UA, UF, Texas, and USC have championship programs….the fan base makes no excuses and keeps pressure on the program at all times.

My god!! UGAY fans really do not have a clue..

Mike Bobo 17 INT

May 23rd, 2009
10:06 am

Rebel Rouser

Meyers gets it done, plain and simple. He is not there to be there buddies, he is there to win.

braveshater

May 24th, 2009
2:07 pm

Until he wins a Championship with the immense level of talent that he has, he is right where he needs to be ranked. No crystal ball, No love. Win a big game for once.

Georgia Dawg By Way Of Las Vegas

June 3rd, 2009
9:21 pm

Why do we have to fight about? (trying to do my best stewie griffin impression)

Look people. Mark Richt took a medium level team that Jim (couldn’t get them over the hump) Donnan left and made them a SEC contender on a regular basis.

He is a great coach and even though he’s made some decisions that weren’t exactly the smartest he’s learned from his mistakes and the Dawgs will be ok. Trust me on this.

Urban Meyer is a great coach also and I admire the way he gets his boys up for the challenges on a consistent basis. I only wish the Bulldogs could be ready for their challenges.

That’s a coaching issue and Mark will get it done. Eventually … sigh …

As for Willly Martinez? He better get his Poo together or eventually Mark will have to bow to the pressure of the Dawg nation and handle his business … friendship or not.

DAWGS UP! JACKETS DOWN! … under a big steaming pile of BullDawg poo … Believe it (O_O)