Hate not too strong a word for Dogs-Jackets rivalry

The No. 15-ranked Diamond Dogs’ 7-5 win over No. 7 Georgia Tech in front of 24,665 fans Tuesday at Turner Field was big for a couple of reasons, despite being one of those late-season midweek nonconference games that don’t really affect either team’s postseason hopes. 

First, it cemented Atlanta’s seven-year-old Spring Baseball Classic for Kids charity game as one of the nation’s best-attended college games, drawing the sixth largest regular season crowd in NCAA baseball history and the second largest crowd ever for the classic.

But more importantly to UGA fans, it was a win over our most hated rival and means the Dogs have won the last five classics in a row.

Any win over the insects, no matter the sport, is a big deal just because we hate them and they hate us. Whether it’s the “clean, old-fashioned hate” of sporting legend or the decidedly muckier version practiced by North Avenue posters to this blog, it still boils down to hate. 

Too strong a word? Maybe back in my Dad’s era when a lot of UGA fans considered Tech the second state school and would root for them except when they played the Dogs. But in my lifetime the rivalry has sharpened to the point where most fans for each school take great delight in any misfortune that befalls the other. The combination of a Georgia win and a Tech loss (preferably a blowout) makes for the finest kind of fall Saturday.

Now I’m not saying that Tech is our biggest or most important rival, especially in football. That hasn’t been the case since the Jackets bolted from the SEC. 

Just our most hated rival.

In my mind, our biggest rival (and one nearly as hated as Tech) is Florida. Especially in football, where the annual game in Jacksonville looms large in deciding the SEC East. And especially since the Spurrier era, when his obnoxious demeanor (and string of wins over the Dogs) let loose the inner jerk residing in most Gator fans. (I say most, not all, because my next-door neighbor the Gator is actually a really nice guy. Can’t say that about any Jackets fans I’ve known.)

So, as I’ve said before here, I’d list Tech and Florida as our top rivals, with Tennessee and Auburn in the next rank. (Once upon a time, Clemson was also at the top of that list, but we don’t play them that often any more.) While UT fans can be twice as obnoxious as Gator fans, particularly in Knoxville, that rivalry only really heated up when they became an every-year opponent in football and doesn’t yet match our thing with the Gators. Given a choice between beating either Florida or Tennessee in any given year, I think most fans would pick the Florida game in a heartbeat.

Auburn, of course, is our oldest rivalry, dating to 1892, and it’s an intense one for a lot of UGA fans, particularly those like my friends Steve and John who either have in the past or still live among the War Eagle types across the border. For many UGA fans, though, Auburn fans are more like our country cousins. The two schools share a lot of ties, have been known to hire each other’s graduates as coaches, and a lot of families are split, with grads from both schools. 

So I don’t really hate Auburn. (”You wouldn’t feel that way if you ever had to live over there,” Steve told me recently when a group of us were discussing our most hated rivals. And I’m sure he’s right.)

Beyond that, I don’t think hatred is really a word that applies to our other rivalries. While Gamecock fans seem to spend the entire summer keying on their September meeting with the Dogs, those UGA fans who don’t live near or among the eternally optimistic South Carolina faithful attach importance to the game mainly as our SEC opener and usually the first real challenge of the season (though far from the biggest one). So that rivalry is bigger in Augusta than in Athens.

As for our other every-year opponents, Vandy and Kentucky, they’ve never been good enough on a consistent basis in football for much of a rivalry to develop. And in basketball, while Georgia fans pack the Steg every year when the Wildcats come to Athens, it’s more of a David vs. Goliath sort of scenario than a true rivalry.

And while our rotating games against teams from the SEC West are important, aside from our permanent opponent, Auburn, no true rivalry has developed. If we played Alabama more often, that rivalry would probably zoom to the top, especially with Nick Saban there, because their fans are, let’s face it, clinically insane. But I don’t think UGA fans really work up a true hatred for Bama, at least not one to match our big four. And whenever we’ve played LSU, I’ve found their fans to be among the most likable I’ve encountered. They’re good folks to tailgate with, and coming out of the Georgia Dome after the last time the Dogs whipped them in the SEC championship, I actually had several of them say, “Good game.” One Tiger fan even high-fived me when he said it.

If that ever happened with a Tech or Gator fan, I’d be so stunned I’d have to double-check the colors they were wearing.

Then I’d rush off to wash that hand.

174 comments Add your comment

GP Burdell, Ph.D. '09

May 13th, 2009
2:29 pm

“UGAG” there I said it with a 142

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 13th, 2009
2:30 pm

Hey Hershel “This is the most unintelligent group of people to walk the face of this earth.”

…you spelled your name wrong.

Don’t worry about it, we “unintelligent” folks do it all the time.

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 13th, 2009
2:31 pm

would you prefer UGAY Reality?

Reality

May 13th, 2009
2:35 pm

Seriously, there are many 5 year olds that are more creative and witty then you opaque troglodytes.

Wonderful

May 13th, 2009
2:35 pm

Bill please schedule a makeover with Oprah – you look SCARY. Lame topic- is this the best you can do?

Reality

May 13th, 2009
2:38 pm

142, that’s it? I thought you “Ph.D’s” were suppose to be highly intelligent?

MyWhiskeyClear

May 13th, 2009
2:41 pm

I am a current Tech student. I am not from India, Boston, or Jersey so let me try to relate to people here.

Our fans do actaully suck…a lot. I think that Tech’s socially-maladjusted fanbase is due to two main things. The first is that god-forsaken move out of the SEC. Worst idea ever. I hold that Tech football should have stayed in the money and would’ve at worst become like a Vandy or MSU for those down years instead of nearly falling to Div 2. The second is runaway academic success (not of that of the teams…but of the Institute itself). 7th place among all public schools and top five in the engineering sciences is going to garauntee nerdiness to an extant. BUT there are still well-rounded real people at Tech that are nice folks and love to dress up, head to the Dodd and enjoy some historic Southern football on a sunny afternoon. They are the type that Tech needs to figure out a way to get more of.

Now when it comes to U(sic)GA I will never apologize for basing the hatred on something far deeper than sports. There was blood in the water from the first moment that a Georgia politician stood up in the legislature and fought for Tech never to exist outside of his own alma mater in Athens. Or how about the first time Tech football players were injured because the Georgia Wildcats (back then) fans were throwing rocks at them? That was over a hundred years ago, and the Tech students that are passionate about their school vow never to forget such things. Competition should make our two schools better. And both schools are certainly well-respected…at VERY different things. HATE, however, will aways be HATE!

By the way, RealityCheck, Bama is another school that derides its historical opponents in her fight song. I believe the line is “we’ll teach those bulldogs to behave, and send the yellow jackets to a watery grave”? Just sayin…it’s not unique to Tech.

slimpickens

May 13th, 2009
2:41 pm

I am fortunate in some ways to have attended both schools. I found neither school to be far superior to the other academically. However, I found Athens to be more than just a school, it was atmosphere,friends who grew up with the same attitudes and backgrounds, along with a great place to live. Most of my Tech friends are pretty good people but these young guys come from a different planet. I get tired of the same old score posting and how dumb UGA grads and fans are. Let’s discuss football. If you want to post the hateful stuff, then start your own blog.

Reality Check

May 13th, 2009
2:41 pm

Ramble on and PHD 09′, a Tech degree does not buy you any class. You can make all of stupid references you want, a high IQ or Tech degree is just that. Most people I know that are technically smart have low common sense and have trouble relating to the real world. You are evidence of that. I know if no one with the ambition to come to the crime infested campus of yours so why would anyone be jealous.

Pi$$onaDAWG

May 13th, 2009
2:44 pm

Read your fight song and it has the OPTION to add after G-E-O-R-G-I-A to place a Team name in with to Hell with. Check it an see. UGA left their options open in the song to callout the other team. I am not defending The Tech Fight Song I an just saying.
Keep up the good work Bill. I enjoy the back and forth if it stays clean. Again I hope you had a nice Mother’s Day. I hope you went to her site and placed flowers. Sorry you lost MOM last year. I don’t know how I will feel when my mom is no longer here to talk to. Blessings and best wishes on this year. We will talk crap on the blogs later. THWG & GATA.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
2:44 pm

I have never once seen an attractive person at Tech.

Chris

May 13th, 2009
2:49 pm

What amazes me is a lot of GT fans are quick to point out about the arrests of UGA players, whether it’s for drug use, underage drinking, DUI, or whatever else. But, GT fans can’t sit there and tell me that their athletes are perfect and don’t do any of that stuff. There’s a major difference in being located in Athens and Atlanta. In Atlanta, it’s easier to hide because of how big the city is, whereas Athens is a lot different. There are just as many GT players that are smoking weed and driving drunk as there are UGA guys. Their college kids. Do you really expect everyone to be perfect angels?

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
2:49 pm

Lots of Techies with Dawg envy on here!

Charlotte Jacket

May 13th, 2009
2:49 pm

I’m fortunate enough to have lived near, gone to church with, and worked with some fine Georgia grads and fans. If I relied on anonymous internet postings and interactions with drunk game-day fans to determine my opinion of UGA, it would be an easy call to hate UGA in a big way. I occasionally leave these comments sections fired up about UGA fans, but I don’t let it define the entire fan base for me. These are anonymous comments; they bring out the worst in people.

That said, I get more fired up for any Tech-UGA game than any other event on the schedule. I respect Coach Richt and think many (if not most) of the kids in the program seem like good people, but nothing is more important (in sports) to me than beating UGA. Getting the FSU monkey off our backs was important this year, too, but it can’t compete with the UGA win for putting some confidence back in the program. A baseball sweep would have been fun, but now we can look to the ACC tournament and try to have a productive postseason for a change.

Here’s to Richard, Dan, Tate, Dean, Matt, and the rest of the decent Dawg fans out there. Go Jackets!

Reality Check

May 13th, 2009
2:50 pm

Pi$$onaDAWG, despite what may be written, I have been to some games and do not recall the THW? words being openly sung/sang and I have been to Tech games against other teams when the song comes to the end it still says THWG. I may be wrong but my point is that TECH goes out of its way in everything it does to pronounce its hate with Georgia, whereas most Georgia fans and students that I have visited on campus did not really care one way or the other about Tech until game day.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
2:53 pm

Tech hates us so much because they want to be us. It’s obvious to everyone.

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 13th, 2009
2:55 pm

Reality Check, is this why I can’t tie my shoes?

Middle GA Dawg

May 13th, 2009
2:57 pm

Bill, this is you best blog ever! You hit the nail on the head.

Right On Time

May 13th, 2009
2:57 pm

Does’nt everyone hate tech?

Middle GA Dawg

May 13th, 2009
2:57 pm

Correction. This was “your” best blog ever!

Charlotte Dawg

May 13th, 2009
3:01 pm

No posts from Ramble On? I must be coming down with a fever or something.

If people like him didn’t post on here all the time with the attitude and arrogance, I would probably hate Tech less.

The pathetic thing though is how Tech fans think they’ve turned the rivalry around. Techies, we were not going to beat you forever! The way you are acting tells me you thought we would!

I went home to Marietta at Christmas and never saw more Tech garb worn in the malls and restaurants in my entire life! They all came out of the woodwork after the one rare victory. After Christmas day, it was worse. It was like they finally had Santa Claus bring them their techie gear b/c they were finally not ashamed. So how’s the weather outside guys? Pretty fair?

Pathetic.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
3:01 pm

Of course everyone hates Tech. They’re the red-headed step child of college football. People forget they exist until game day.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
3:03 pm

Correction – red-headed step child of life.

Charlotte Dawg

May 13th, 2009
3:03 pm

Just saw a post. I stand corrected

Island Dawg

May 13th, 2009
3:04 pm

Sissy, you really need to check the record, choadbag.

Charlotte Jacket

May 13th, 2009
3:06 pm

The “Ramblin’ Wreck” fight song is a tradition dating back, in its current form, to 1911. (http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/trads/geot-trads.html) Take a read through the Tech traditions; most of them started in the late 19th century when Tech first played Georgia in one sport or another. But one pesky aspect of traditions is that when you change them, they’re not traditional anymore. I’ve had people literally all over the world hum or sing the Ramblin’ Wreck fight song to me when they find out that I’m a fan/grad. It’s unique and famous, and we’ll keep it just the way it is, thanks.

Hershel

May 13th, 2009
3:07 pm

Right on Sanford Drive!! Spellcheck that Ramble On.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
3:07 pm

Yeah, sing some more about Engineering. That’s pertinent to the athletic event at hand.

Pi$$onaDAWG

May 13th, 2009
3:10 pm

Reality Check you could be right. I just know what the words in the Glory Glory to Old Georgia SONG says and it keeps the option open to the team being played to say TO HELL WITH. Yes, GIT has(for sure) “To Hell With Georgia” in our song. Have a good year and I will see you(?)in the sea of red & black come this NOV. I hate that Ole Miss backed out this year & Army last year, so dad and I will go to Nashville for a nice travel game. I spent almost a yr. in Nashville during the mid-90’s so I can show dad around. I will never go to MIAMI again. I went to Military School in Ga. that spent our winters in Hollywood, FLA and If you ain’t rich So.Fla. is a getto like areas of Downtown ATL. I have friends in Tallahassee and I get to go to the good seats with my friend and Dad doesn’t get to go to that one. Have you been to Starkville? I know nothing about that town.

Island Dawg

May 13th, 2009
3:12 pm

Sanford, I bagged my share of Tech sorority tail back in the day, far from all bad. I just hate that they had to import guys from Athens, poor things.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
3:13 pm

Island Dawg -

Gross.

Reality Check

May 13th, 2009
3:15 pm

I have not been to Starkville but hear it is harder to get to and worse than Auburn or Clemson for traffic. For sure we will show up in November, but with CPJ there now tickets for UGA fans will be harder to come by. I would be surprised if GT has more than 2 losses when we pplay ya’ll. All jokes aside, be proud you have the best coach you have probably had since Bobby Dodd.

45-42

May 13th, 2009
3:15 pm

haha, but a good article, i respect most uga fans, but everyone knows the fans techies hate: those obnoxious drunks who talk trash regardless and are too retarded to even attend uga. the uga students are cool, its the dumb bandwagon hicks that us techies stereotype against. and i am pretty sure many of these commenters above are the fans i hate because the knowledgeable, actual uga grads do not resort to blogs to talk trash.

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 13th, 2009
3:20 pm

Charlotte Dawg, thanks, glad I can keep your hate coming.

All of my love.

Charlotte Jacket

May 13th, 2009
3:20 pm

Well, Sanford & Son, how’s this for relevant: 45-42.

Nerdus Maximus

May 13th, 2009
3:22 pm

What Huh? said at 12:12 except substitute Tech for Ga & vice versa.

But the simple truth is ga fans will never get over their feeling of inferiority to Tech & when they lose at sports too it just kills them.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
3:22 pm

What was that, Charlotte? I couldn’t hear you over the 7 to 5

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 13th, 2009
3:27 pm

I agree Reality Check, I’m getting extra UGAg tickets, 75$ face value. How much you think I can get for them?

Pi$$onaDAWG

May 13th, 2009
3:28 pm

I will ask UGA fans to realize a few thing about TECH football. We were GREAT after the MEN came back from WWII, ARMY was great During the war. Many men came back from the WAR, using the GI Bill, to get an education and they picked Enginerring to advance this country. Now, with IT and Bio-Tech engineering the “MEN” are not 6′2″ and football or basketball players build as much. A 5′5″ student dosen’t a football player make. We do get our fiar share of players but UGA offers classes that more people can pass. That is not a Hit it is a Fact. How many VETs and Lawyers do you have on your teams? As many as we have Areospace Engs. right?

JB

May 13th, 2009
3:29 pm

Bobby Ross was a hellva coach at Tech……Ross would not have lost to Richt 7 times in a row, and most of you know I’m a DAWG……

Top Dawg

May 13th, 2009
3:29 pm

Hey ramble on, thought you had dropped off the face of the Earth!
Missed reading your …stuff. NOT!!
I think there should be a state amendment that takes the name Georgia off of Georgia Tech because tech doesn’t deserve to have Georgia in their name. All Georgia fans should join me and only say tech when referring to the NATS!

austindog

May 13th, 2009
3:30 pm

I hear you on that, Charlotte. If men like Ramble On didn’t post in here I may like GT a little more myself. It’s a man like Ramble On who makes me dislike Tech. He is the type of guy I hate. No one really likes him, yet Ramble On always tries to prove his manhood. He posts constantly, his computer must be next to his urinal or something.

JB

May 13th, 2009
3:35 pm

did not like the chubby Irishman….what was his name……He was a charlatan.
Ya’ll need to thank God he had Ralph……He’s was ya’lls success against us back then….oh yea, O’liar.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
3:35 pm

I hope Ramble makes another racist comment about one of our players. Always a classy lady.

Voice of Reason

May 13th, 2009
3:36 pm

pi$$onadawg- touche’

Charlotte Jacket

May 13th, 2009
3:36 pm

Right on, Sanford. I’ll let the “most recent win” rule take over here. I think that’ll work to our advantage in the future at Tech. You win.

But I’d say it’s a good day for Tech when UGA fans are using their sweep-saving split baseball series as trash-talking material.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
3:38 pm

Actually, that 7 to 5 win makes us world beaters. So, it’s a good day for us both I guess.

Voice of Reason

May 13th, 2009
3:39 pm

Folks seriously, do you think Ramble On is really offended by your insults? He comes on here to talk crap and make UGA fans mad and you guys are just giving him exactly what he wants. I would bet that most of what he says is simply aimed at getting under our skin. Who cares? No points go to the team whose fans are the best smack talkers.

Huh?

May 13th, 2009
3:40 pm

You also have to remember folks that anything a UGA athletic team ever accomplishes simply comes down to one of two things according to Tech fans: a) luck or b) cheating of some form or another (the refs gave it to us or we recruit a bunch of thugs, etc. etc.) To hear a Tech fan tell it, UGA athletic teams have never accomplished anything on their own merits, particularly the football team. If this isn’t pure unadulterated jealousy I’m not sure what is.

kcgtfan

May 13th, 2009
3:42 pm

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