Hate not too strong a word for Dogs-Jackets rivalry

The No. 15-ranked Diamond Dogs’ 7-5 win over No. 7 Georgia Tech in front of 24,665 fans Tuesday at Turner Field was big for a couple of reasons, despite being one of those late-season midweek nonconference games that don’t really affect either team’s postseason hopes. 

First, it cemented Atlanta’s seven-year-old Spring Baseball Classic for Kids charity game as one of the nation’s best-attended college games, drawing the sixth largest regular season crowd in NCAA baseball history and the second largest crowd ever for the classic.

But more importantly to UGA fans, it was a win over our most hated rival and means the Dogs have won the last five classics in a row.

Any win over the insects, no matter the sport, is a big deal just because we hate them and they hate us. Whether it’s the “clean, old-fashioned hate” of sporting legend or the decidedly muckier version practiced by North Avenue posters to this blog, it still boils down to hate. 

Too strong a word? Maybe back in my Dad’s era when a lot of UGA fans considered Tech the second state school and would root for them except when they played the Dogs. But in my lifetime the rivalry has sharpened to the point where most fans for each school take great delight in any misfortune that befalls the other. The combination of a Georgia win and a Tech loss (preferably a blowout) makes for the finest kind of fall Saturday.

Now I’m not saying that Tech is our biggest or most important rival, especially in football. That hasn’t been the case since the Jackets bolted from the SEC. 

Just our most hated rival.

In my mind, our biggest rival (and one nearly as hated as Tech) is Florida. Especially in football, where the annual game in Jacksonville looms large in deciding the SEC East. And especially since the Spurrier era, when his obnoxious demeanor (and string of wins over the Dogs) let loose the inner jerk residing in most Gator fans. (I say most, not all, because my next-door neighbor the Gator is actually a really nice guy. Can’t say that about any Jackets fans I’ve known.)

So, as I’ve said before here, I’d list Tech and Florida as our top rivals, with Tennessee and Auburn in the next rank. (Once upon a time, Clemson was also at the top of that list, but we don’t play them that often any more.) While UT fans can be twice as obnoxious as Gator fans, particularly in Knoxville, that rivalry only really heated up when they became an every-year opponent in football and doesn’t yet match our thing with the Gators. Given a choice between beating either Florida or Tennessee in any given year, I think most fans would pick the Florida game in a heartbeat.

Auburn, of course, is our oldest rivalry, dating to 1892, and it’s an intense one for a lot of UGA fans, particularly those like my friends Steve and John who either have in the past or still live among the War Eagle types across the border. For many UGA fans, though, Auburn fans are more like our country cousins. The two schools share a lot of ties, have been known to hire each other’s graduates as coaches, and a lot of families are split, with grads from both schools. 

So I don’t really hate Auburn. (”You wouldn’t feel that way if you ever had to live over there,” Steve told me recently when a group of us were discussing our most hated rivals. And I’m sure he’s right.)

Beyond that, I don’t think hatred is really a word that applies to our other rivalries. While Gamecock fans seem to spend the entire summer keying on their September meeting with the Dogs, those UGA fans who don’t live near or among the eternally optimistic South Carolina faithful attach importance to the game mainly as our SEC opener and usually the first real challenge of the season (though far from the biggest one). So that rivalry is bigger in Augusta than in Athens.

As for our other every-year opponents, Vandy and Kentucky, they’ve never been good enough on a consistent basis in football for much of a rivalry to develop. And in basketball, while Georgia fans pack the Steg every year when the Wildcats come to Athens, it’s more of a David vs. Goliath sort of scenario than a true rivalry.

And while our rotating games against teams from the SEC West are important, aside from our permanent opponent, Auburn, no true rivalry has developed. If we played Alabama more often, that rivalry would probably zoom to the top, especially with Nick Saban there, because their fans are, let’s face it, clinically insane. But I don’t think UGA fans really work up a true hatred for Bama, at least not one to match our big four. And whenever we’ve played LSU, I’ve found their fans to be among the most likable I’ve encountered. They’re good folks to tailgate with, and coming out of the Georgia Dome after the last time the Dogs whipped them in the SEC championship, I actually had several of them say, “Good game.” One Tiger fan even high-fived me when he said it.

If that ever happened with a Tech or Gator fan, I’d be so stunned I’d have to double-check the colors they were wearing.

Then I’d rush off to wash that hand.

174 comments Add your comment

lastgrad

May 13th, 2009
11:07 am

RxDawg

May 13th, 2009
11:08 am

This is a fantastic post. Pretty much sums up all the rivalries very well.

I don’t hate Tech, I wish them well when they don’t play us. But this stems from my confidence in UGA. I want a highly ranked, unflawed Tech team to play the Dawgs at the end of the year. That way more people will be watching when we stomp them into the turf.

UF is big on everyone’s list due to the domintation as of late. Although the games have been much closer in the past 4 years.

AU is my number 1. I live among many of their fans.

murfdawg

May 13th, 2009
11:16 am

You are 100% right!! Living and working in Atlanta all my adult life, I absolutely HATE GT! I have some good friends who went to Tech and I have mellowed in the last few years. Florida fans are just downright annoying. They think they invented football in 1991, but they really invented jorts and tank tops. Auburn is just Auburn and nothing else needs to be said. Everybody has stories of how obnoxious Auburn fans are in Auburn and Dawg fans are in Athens. But that is like fighting with your brother. We don’t have room for USC to be a rival. They need us to give their program validation. We need them like a Techster needs another pimple.

The first eight games are just pre-season, stat building exercises. Three of the last four are what UGA is about. I don’t care if we go 3-9 as long as we beat fl, AU and GT. And this year we will do it!!!

bigdawg01

May 13th, 2009
11:20 am

While I was watching the end of the game last night, I saw one of the most annoying things in recent memory. There was a Tech fan..(sorry, a NERD) doing the gator chomp behind home plate. Obviously he was doing this to distract our pitcher. That was the most annoying, stupid, and LAME thing i have seen in a while. All i kept hoping was that someone would trip and hit him or poor a warm beer on him.

I hope that he reads this and realizes how much of a total D-bag he really is.

So, Tech or FL. You can take your pick, but for me it was summed up last night. BOTH suck equally.

bigdawg01

May 13th, 2009
11:28 am

Sorry, thats POUR a warm beer.

The Maharishi

May 13th, 2009
11:32 am

Greetings! I offer councel from the Ashram….To be free from hate is to be free from guilt! That’s what I like about sports, always winners and losers! {the winners are the ones who don’t lose their time with sports!} To quote my pal Albert Einstein: “My time is too precious to waste on sports, politics or religion” I might add “All time is to precious to hate”

But I do hate pickles, dentists, Comcast…and Neil Young.

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Peace and Love; Spay and Neuter!

MMY

Stumpy's Bear

May 13th, 2009
11:36 am

So do you see the same sort of even taking place last night if it was GA-FL or GA-Auburn? How about in basketball? But look what happens when you throw a basketball game or baseball game or volleyball game for that matter and pit GA v. TECH. That’s a rivalry.

Huh?

May 13th, 2009
12:12 pm

Here’s the difference between Georgia and Georgia Tech fans. Techies cannot stand UGA’s very existence. They hate every thing about it. The school itself, its students, its athletic teams, the janitorial staff. You name it and those crybabies hate it. If they had half as much passion for their own teams as they do for hating Georgia they might be able to fill their football stadium, but that of course is not the case. I believe that Georgia fans, on the other hand, hold very little animosity towards the institution of Georgia Tech itself and its athletic program. Its a great school for what it offers and there have been several Georgia Tech athletes and coaches over the years that I admire. The problem is the fans. That is what we hate. They are all fine human beings that I have no problem with on a personal level, but when it comes to sports they are the worst crybaby panty wastes in all of the sporting world. I mean we beat them 7 years in a row in football and all we hear from them is excuses and low life cheap shots about the integrity of our football program. Then the second they get a fluke 3 point win we’re supposed to bow down and kiss their pocket calculators. I’ll give them one thing. They’ve got a lot of nerve. There will be lots of Georgia fans that will tell you that they want to see Georgia Tech do well when they aren’t playing Georgia. I am not one of them because of their fans. I hope they fall flat on their face every time they step on a playing field, whatever that playing field might be. Nothing puts a bigger smile on my face that Georgia Tech sports fans in absolute misery. Thanks and have a great day.

daslicksta

May 13th, 2009
12:19 pm

only thing lower than a crawling in his his own slime gainsville gator is the buzzing insect from North Ave. flying over him, waiting for a dropping or 2…to land in.

WTF???

May 13th, 2009
12:33 pm

Huh? – You hit the nail on the head.

BamaCLT

May 13th, 2009
12:36 pm

The word “hate” appears on this page 19 times, and you call Alabama fans clinically insane? You should rename this to the “Hater’s Blog.” Alabama, Tennessee, & Florida win championships and are rich in tradition. I can see why you hate them now.

Pitbull

May 13th, 2009
12:46 pm

The sports moment that makes me the happiest is at the end of the game when Georgia has won.

The sports moment that makes me the second happiest is at the end of the game when Georgia Tech has lost.

For all of their talk of superior academics, they are the ones who went on NCAA probation for playing 11 academically ineligible football players over a 7 year period, lied about it, and then hurried and self reported when it became apparent that the truth was coming out. That personifies Tech’s character.

For all of their talk of superior academics, the are the ones who failed to meet NCAA academic standards recently in their basketball program and had scholorship reductions imposed. That personifies Tech’s character too.

And whatever became of the Joe Hamilton episode? It was never reported in the AJC.

THWGT!

Navigator

May 13th, 2009
12:50 pm

With all of the hate around the world, it’s kind of immature to resort to that in sports. My two sons graduated from Georgia, and I from Tech. I don’t hate UGA, and they don’t hate Tech. We have a good time rooting against each other when the two schools get together, but it’s over when it’s over. Maybe we should step back and look at what’s most important in our lives, and it’s sports, then maybe we should get a life.

ShutUpMutt

May 13th, 2009
12:58 pm

Great post! I hate you too! However I must argue that GT IS your biggest rival. I say this because a rival isn’t about who you’d most like to beat… it’s about who you’d least like to lose to. Anyone agree?

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
1:00 pm

To me, The word ‘rivalry’ insinuates an evenly heated match between two opponents. That’s hardly the case with UF. They’re not really our rival. We just hate them because they beat us almost every year, and their fans (in general) are among the worst in the SEC, to boot. I guess all that winning goes to their heads.

Pi$$onaDAWG

May 13th, 2009
1:01 pm

HUH? that fluke 3 point win is as funny as the fumble that sat in the pile forever that was not blown dead and turned into a UGA TD or the “FUMBLE on the Goal Line” that let TECH win. That is football. All that being said I have to agree with “HATE”. I would not Pi$$ on my own dog or on a Dawg Fan that was on Fire but other than that I would. I hate that many georgians are UGA fans and have never stepped foot in the classroom or in the “Septic Tank of the South”. I have friends & family that are UGA fans. I do love them and have Thanksgiving dinner with them but on that Saturday after the turkey is done it is on. My sister married a UGA GRAD and they lived in married housing while he went to school as they had a child. My sis drove one of the Campus buses and she wore her TECH hat everyday. One student said I think you are confused as to where you are. She smiled and said my dad is a TECH GRAD and he paid the cost for me to do a lot and go to school and I am still a Tech fan. The guy just shook his head and told my sis that he could respect that. I think bothsides respect eachother to a point, but is like talking Religion or Politics you just don’t do it if you want to stay friends. As a Tech fan this year was a great Sunday School day after the TECH win. I just wore Khaki pants, Blue Blazer, White Polo, and My Yellow Tech Tie and never said a word. It was interesting that getting coffee there was no talk about the weekends football games for the first time all season.

ShutUpMutt

May 13th, 2009
1:02 pm

Huh?,

First you say you hold little animosity towards Tech, then you say you love watching GT lose. Face it pal. If UGA goes on another 8 year dry-spell against Tech in football, you’ll hate our guts!

Quit trying to act like you’re above it. Clean, old-fashioned hate is what it’s all about!

JB

May 13th, 2009
1:05 pm

The die hards show up on this blog….most Tech people I know or are friends with are good people…..
But, it’s the good looking sister syndrome for most Tech fans. Uga, being the State flagship University, gets all the ink, all the talk and Most Tech Grads move back to Boston, Jersey and India and don’t really support the teams after they leave. Tech has a wonderful history, with Bobby Dodd, which I admire greatly, and Tech people hold on to that, as we do Herschel. I do agree with the previous poster, I really think there is a culture at Tech of Hating everything UGA 365 days a year, while most Georgia people think of Tech only when we play them. Too many pretty girls and fun in Athens to worry about Tech. I’m serious. not bashing…..

GTMike

May 13th, 2009
1:05 pm

Huh?

May 13th, 2009
1:07 pm

“First you say you hold little animosity towards Tech, then you say you love watching GT lose.”

That is correct. I hold very little animosity towards the Georgia Institute of Technology or its athletic programs. I hope my child is lucky enough to go there should that be their path. As for the athletic programs, what’s to hate? Its just a bunch of college kids working their butts off. Hard to hate that. If only they had better fans though. Its really a shame. They deserve so much better.

Reality Check

May 13th, 2009
1:10 pm

To sum it up, tech fans and school show their feelings with THWG in their school fight song. What other school shows such an inferior little brother complex that they have to put down another rival in their own fight song? I hope they lose every game they play but other than that don’t feel the need to take cheap shots at the school or academics. Huh said it best, but the bottom line is that a lot of tech fans feel they have to pull UGA down to boost themselves up. I can see the two schools for what they are, two vastly different academic programs that both offer good education for a wide range of fields.

The Maharishi

May 13th, 2009
1:10 pm

Mia Farrow’s sister WAS kinda cute!

It’s such a joy, joy…..

Herschel Talker

May 13th, 2009
1:11 pm

SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHO THE HECK BILL KING IS? I DON’T GET HOW HE GOT THIS BLOG. SCARY PICTURE.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
1:13 pm

Tech would get zero publicity if it wasn’t for UGA. They should be thanking us. Sure, the AJC will occasionally throw them a bone and do a story on them, and that’s cute. But on a national level? Please. Tech gets no love from major media outlets in terms of news. They’ll have to become relevant first, which is going to take 20 straight wins against UGA. Also, FSU and Miami will have to take complete nose-dives in order for Tech to help its case. Even though these two programs haven’t been good recently, they still get more coverage than Tech because nobody gives a crap about the rest of the ACC. Period.

Sorry, but it’s true.

fay-dawg

May 13th, 2009
1:16 pm

I agree with Pitbull…..tech folks act like they are exempt from problems or issues within their program. Guess they forgot about their lineman punching a chick in the Mellow Mushroom, numerous ineligible athletes participating in varsity sports, their defensive back who was busted in a major drug ring…not to mention their favorite QB Joe Hamilton being arrested for DUI and under the influence of drugs.

BLAZER

May 13th, 2009
1:20 pm

TECHIE’S CRYBABIES-WHY IS A THREE POINT WIN CALL A FLUKE INSTEAD

OF SAYING IT WAS A WIN!! IT STILL 45-42!

chris o bomb

May 13th, 2009
1:20 pm

uga football is the braves of baseball(besides the one world series ring).

i guarantee uga fans(i am one now- read last paragraph) during a football game is only secured about victory just 25% of the time. the other 75% is a nail-biting/yelling at mark richt or coordinators. yes… the sec is the toughest, but do you think fl, al, or lsu goes through the mental and emotional ups and downs during the game as the dogs? no… they punish their opponents and kill their “hatred” teams so bad that after the game they will drink the rest of their whiskey in sorrow.

this blog is more of being a “hater” than hate(good blog though). always thinking you’re a top program, but… history proves otherwise(barring gymnastics and tennis:)
Why was there even mentioning of the lesser teams in the sec? david vs. goliath? guess florida would think in the same terms vs. UGA. lol.

Personally I grew up HATING UGA!!! I wouldnt even wear red until high school. Since I started watching pollack and co. their senior season, I’ve really became a “fan” of the football program. Up until this recruiting season, I wanted the GA’s elite high school football players to stay in state and play for Richt(a class act). Now we have one of our own, and Bobby Dodd stadium will be more gold and white than red… well slightly more.

uga_b

May 13th, 2009
1:22 pm

I always viewed Tech as the little brother. You are supposed to beat them and take no joy in it, but you don’t want to lose to your little brother. I never viewed them as equals when we played them in Rugby; just little nerdy kids.

I know it was different when they had the great Bobby Dodd. But just like you don’t consider your little brother a true rival, i don’t consider Tech one right now. I would love it if they came on, and Johnson appears to be giving them a shot. You root for your little brother, but you don’t want to lose to them.

WOW

May 13th, 2009
1:23 pm

Hey Bama why are you on here talking about alabama, tennessee, and florida IDIOT? First of all when was the last time bama won any kind of championship? The difference is to me that there are also pro sports here. People can go to the UGA/tech game on Sat and sit next to each other the next day pulling on the coons. In alabama you have nothing but college sports. What kind of losers at life get 100,000 to go to a spring game? It must suck to be an Alabama fan.

uuugh.

May 13th, 2009
1:24 pm

Before this year, I thought that losing to Florida was worse than losing to GT. In the past few years, Florida is the roadblock to a special football season and we lose a lot more of those than we win. In that respect I consider Florida our biggest rival.

More recently, however, I have found tech fans to be even more intolerable than Florida fans. Reading this blog each day has had a large impact on my opinion of Tech fans. I have found the tech people that I meet in person to be generally personal folks that like to exchange a barb or two about football in good fun, which I is what I like about rivalries. The Tech fans I find on this blog are mean spirited and much more bold than their success should afford them, which is what I dislike about rivalries.

Basically Florida is the bigger kid in the neighborhood that you enjoy beating when you can. Tech is your younger brother that you consistently beat but wins one every now and again…just enough to keep him coming back.

Out of curiosity…the years that Georgia beats Tech in football, is one of our fans trolling the Tech blogs posting the score of the last game every single day? I sure hope not.

Hill Dawg

May 13th, 2009
1:26 pm

The battles between UGA and tech have now ended for this school year. However, rather than waste time, start now and hate tech early! You’ll enjoy it!

Bulldawg

May 13th, 2009
1:29 pm

HUH? said it best. It is the fans. Having grown up in Georgia, accepted to both Tech and UGA and ultimately attending UGA, I found myself always pulling for Tech except against UGA. But, then I moved to the city. And then I started reading these blogs. And due tot he behavior of the tech fans and their ugly posts, well, now they can all go to hell.

Joe D.

May 13th, 2009
1:33 pm

Reading this blog gives me the proof why I am no UGA fan!

Brooks

May 13th, 2009
1:37 pm

Tech is our biggest rival period. If you go 11-1 in football and you beat Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, and South Carolina but lose to Tech is the season really a success. I say no. You have to take care of the bees without question. I really can’t believe that Bill King thinks that Florida is our biggest rival considering he is older. Most old time Dawg fans I talk to would tell me without thinking about it that Tech the rival for Georgia. Florida is a big rivalry yes but not the rivalry. GO DAWGS!

Reality Check

May 13th, 2009
1:44 pm

The biggest thing that makes me mad is the constant referrals to UGA fans as rednecks, that primarily never go to class or the school. There are a lot more Georgia fans out here that never went to UGA or become fans while they are growing up and remain UGA fans for life. Also, this is a sport we are talking about so it is not a requirement that anyone graduate from the School to be a fan. I find it insulting that constant references to ‘non graduates’ are all rednecks and if you do not go to the school you are an inferior fan. I went to a college that had lower level football and remained a fan of UGA along with the many policeman, firemem, etc. that did not go to UGA but have elected to support our BIGGEST IN STATE SCHOOL. All of the high minded tech fans that think you are intellectual superior you remember your lives often depend on the group of people that you make fun of the most.

rezmang

May 13th, 2009
1:46 pm

chris o bomb, I agree with your point that UGA is not a strong enough team to single out a real rival, so they pick on poor tech. However, I disagree with your point that you are a great dart player. I wouldnt even consider you a decent dart player. Retire already.

Andrew Miller

May 13th, 2009
1:49 pm

I’ll agree with you with that I’d rather beat Florida than Tennessee. . . but, lets not forget that UT is the only SEC east team that owns a winning overall series record against us and they clean swept us out of the 1990’s . I actually wrote a blog about loathing UT today: http://www.bulldawgillustrated.com/blog/274/Anytime-of-the-year-or-day-is-the-right-time-to-loathe-the-Vols-

The Tech game is mostly irrelevant these days and I never spend any bit of time worrying about them.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
1:51 pm

Bulldawg,

Completely agree with you and Huh. Never really had a problem with techies until the bandwagon fans jumped on the blog. My good friend is actually a big-name Tech person, so I never hated the school. However, the blithering Tech idiots on here have convinced me otherwise.

Sanford Drive

May 13th, 2009
1:56 pm

Andrew Miller,

I see you have a picture of that guy (Paula Deen’s kid) from food network on your blog. Why? That guy in no way makes UGA look good.

Nice post, though.

Otto

May 13th, 2009
1:59 pm

uga_b I agree GT is little Brother and you are supposed to beat them more times than not which UGA does. They don’t like you because of it and try to justify everything they ever did to be better than you.

Florida is UGA’s most hated football rival at the moment and as a whole the most heated of all UGA matchups. If you don’t think so go down to Jax on game day.

In the 80’s when Dooley owned UF, Auburn was rival #1. I remember some real hate being there. We rolled up in our van to tail gate and some Auburn fans came up wanting to kick the doors in. My father and uncle put an end to that along with my 2 older cousins. Auburn is now more like our cousin. The histories and families of the schools are both very mixed.

Going into last season I wanted to beat UF 1st, then in order UT, LSU, Auburn, and then GT. GT is now fighting for 2nd. It is a close call between hearing m and Ramble On for another year or that clown Kiffen.

Otto

May 13th, 2009
2:04 pm

Brooks if UGA went on to play for and won a BCs title then yes I’ll take that loss to GT. GT is far down on my list of top rivals.

wes

May 13th, 2009
2:05 pm

Bill King is uglier than hell and we hate him.

Sincerely,

wes and all other Tech fans

Hershel

May 13th, 2009
2:07 pm

I literally hate Tech because of their fans. This is the most unintelligent group of people to walk the face of this earth. They do not go to their games and their ballpark is half full for home games. They beat Georgia about once every 7 or 8 years and pound their chests like some rabid gorilla. Bunch of pathetic twits and definite losers.

Karl Childers

May 13th, 2009
2:10 pm

I like dem Tech bees. Their uniforms remind me of my favorite thing, mustard…

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm………

Sissy Dawg

May 13th, 2009
2:14 pm

Georgia has no rivalry with Florida. The Gators have won 14 out of the last 15. That is plain old dominance. Georgia is on it’s way down. One baseball win out of two games is the best UGA has done against Tech this year. The future is very bright for Tech athletics especially in football. The streak is now 1 in a row and soon to will be 2 in a row and on and on from there.

GP Burdell, Ph.D. '09

May 13th, 2009
2:14 pm

All of this Joe Hamilton talk makes me wonder if any of y’all read the paper. He is a good guy that messed up. See the article on the local middle school football program he is starting up. I’m sure some of your own mutts that have been in stupid trouble in recent years are good guys too.

On a similar topic…what has Quincy Carter done for you lately?

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 13th, 2009
2:24 pm

“Gold Digger” comes from UGAg women trying to married GT men, for those wondering.

UGAg fans are jealous of GT. That’s why you hate us so much. It’s understandable though, smarter, prettier, more accomplished, etc…

Now we have taken the most precious and only thing that matters from them (Football) and clearly won’t be giving that back for years to come so the hate has gotten even more intensive.

Jealously breeds hate.

I for one am a lover not a hater. I just don’t have a Whole Lotta Love for UGAg.

JoeV

May 13th, 2009
2:25 pm

LOL, I still can’t believe they call themselves the “Diamond Dogs.” HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Sounds like a GIRLS softball team. LOL!

observation

May 13th, 2009
2:26 pm

Sissy Dawg, you are an ignorant fool with obviously no grasp of the facts or reality. Here’s a tip you dunder head, do a just a little bit of fact checking and reasearch before posting on a blog and showing the world just how big of a fool you are.

Reality

May 13th, 2009
2:27 pm

Anyone, especially an adult, that ever uses the term ‘UGAG’, is an unmitigated idiot with a double digit I.Q. at best.