Dogs fans want top teams in Athens

While scheduler Arthur Johnson confirmed to the Athens Banner-Herald that UGA has been approached about playing a nonconference game in Atlanta’s Georgia Dome in 2010, it’s apparently still not a done deal. Johnson said the Dogs, who travel to Colorado that season, still have two schedule spots to fill for 2010, “preferably at home.” Sounds like Georgia’s not going to jump on that dome offer unless it’s really sweet.

In the meantime, Johnson told the ABH, the New Mexico State Aggies have accepted an eye-opening payday of $925,000 to come to Athens for a Nov. 5 game in 2011, between the Florida and Auburn games. That’s the most UGA has ever bribed, er, paid a visiting team, but that’s apparently what schedule fodder costs these days. This will be the Aggies’ fourth trip to Athens, with the Dogs having posted big wins over them in 2002, 2000 and 1995. 

That will make for a less than compelling schedule in 2011, when the Dogs’ nonconference slate also will include Louisville and Coastal Carolina in addition to the Trade School, and the rotating SEC schedule has us playing the two Mississippi schools that year. 

So far, UGA’s effort in recent seasons to branch out from mostly playing designated losers with directional names in bolstering its nonconference schedule has produced middling results, with the likes of Boise State, Colorado, Okie State, Arizona State and, a few years down the road, Clemson. But in talking with Dog fans, I hear a definite yearning for the program to kick it up a notch and schedule a top name, preferably to a home-and-home deal, not a one-off in Atlanta.

The team mentioned most often by fans? Easy. Texas (where it’s still 10 to 9). Apparently a lot of the Bulldog Nation would like to see the Dogs matched up with the Longhorns and wouldn’t mind a trip to Austin at all. Other names that come up frequently in such conversations include Michigan (the Dogs were last in Ann Arbor for Vince Dooley’s major upset in 1965) and Oklahoma. USC’s Trojans, not so much. What with the distance involved, that seems like a better bowl match. 

Speaking of bowl games, Collegefootballnews.com has come up with a fanciful “way too early” set of predictions for the coming season’s BCS bowl matchups, which you can read here

And while on the subject of the BCS, I’m not a fan of that very flawed system of picking a national college football champion, but I know one thing for sure: Getting Congress involved isn’t a good idea. You probably read about last week’s hearing held by a House subcommittee in which a Republican congressman from Texas threatened the BCS with legislation preventing it from calling its title game a “national” championship unless it starts moving toward a playoff system. 

Like most fans, of course, I’d prefer a playoff to the current mess involving polls and computer rankings, but the real problem with Congress getting involved is all the talk about how the BCS, controlled by the major conferences, isn’t a fair way to divvy up the spoils. This is prompted mostly by the Mountain West folks, still pouting over Utah not being in the most recent championship game. A Mountain West Conference rep called the current distribution of money “grossly inequitable.”

I’m sorry, but all college football conferences aren’t created equal, and while the best Mountain West team can occasionally whip a good SEC or Big 12 team, the level of play in the also-ran conferences isn’t up to what the big boys play. As the ACC’s John Swofford, current head of the BCS, told the Congressional panel, the current system “represents the marketplace.” 

Eventually, the marketplace (the TV audience) will make its preference for a playoff heard loudly enough that the college presidents and bowls (the forces against a playoff) will have to come up with something along those lines. It may take a while and it no doubt won’t be a perfect system, but it’s likely to be a lot better than anything that Congressional meddlers can come up with. 

Bulldog Bites: UGA’s men’s golf team is the No. 1 seed for the NCAA Regional that will be held next week in Sorrento, Fla. The Dogs and 13 other teams will compete at the Red Tail Golf Club May 14-16 for the chance to go to the NCAA Championship May 26-30 at the Inverness Golf Club in Toledo, Ohio. … While the Diamond Dogs were imploding last week, the softball team finished out its regular season with three wins and saw sophomore Taylor Schlopy named SEC player of the week and senior Christie Hamilton selected as pitcher of the week. The softball Bulldogs enter postseason play with a 39-9 record. … Mark Richt told the Banner-Herald that he’s content with keeping an indoor practice facility on the back burner while training, weight and recruiting facilities at the Butts-Mehre building are upgraded. … Collegefootballnews.com also has come up with a ranking of the best programs for producing running backs, and UGA comes in third behind USC and Auburn. Check it out here.

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Aggie Here

May 5th, 2009
5:04 pm

Voice of Reason — you are on it. Gators closing with FLA International and FSU. It will be like spring practice

If you have UGAY on your scedule , you have a weak schedule

May 5th, 2009
5:07 pm

right voice of reason? what a moron…

seagorath

May 5th, 2009
5:07 pm

Why can’t the Dawgs play UCLA or Notre Dame…or even BYU? That would attract fans!!!

Bill King

May 5th, 2009
5:09 pm

Just as a point of reference: Most of the anti-UGA comments in the past hour have been posted by the same person under various names.

Bo Williams

May 5th, 2009
5:10 pm

Who had you rather have as your QB, Joe Cox (NC native), or TJ Yates (Ga. native)?

Brokenknuckle

May 5th, 2009
5:12 pm

Georgia fans win something, stop your crying.

OldTech

May 5th, 2009
5:13 pm

seagorath….I haven’t noticed UGA having trouble attracting fans. In fact, that was the point of my first post….they can make more money against teams that will come to Athens every year rather than home-and-home. You UGA fans are kinda victims of your success.

Aggie Here

May 5th, 2009
5:14 pm

Oledawg — Tee Martin was recently hired on staff at UNM; which is a great hire for the Lobos. Wish we had at NMSU awesome talent and great teacher of the game from what I heard.

Vandy

May 5th, 2009
5:21 pm

I love how every other post is “so and so will beat so and so, MARK IT DOWN”……ok I marked it down. Now what? Wipe my a$$ with it?

This blog is the worst.

College football rocks

May 5th, 2009
5:23 pm

Everyone is picking on UF’s OOC schedule last year. They did play Miami, Hawaii, and FSU. I agree that this year it sucks and many fans have complained. It looks like UGA is trying to duplicate it the next year.
I guess I don’t mind UF or UGA playing 2 cupcakes and their instate rival as 3 of the games. I just wish that the 4th game was a good game that everyone would like to see. I think that most fans would love to see any of the following: Michigan, Ohio St, Penn St, Wisconsin, Boston College, VT, Clemson, FSU, Miami, Texas, A&M, Texas Tech, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, or even some pac 10 teams.
I agree with a prior comment that if UGA was giving a million away it should have gone to Ga State. Keep the money here.

Aggie Here

May 5th, 2009
5:27 pm

College football rocks OK .. so how you feeling on the 09 gator matchup with Charleston Southern. What’s your breaking a sweat meter showing ??

OldTech

May 5th, 2009
5:30 pm

It will be years, decades maybe, before Georgia State will be able to field a team that could survive a game against UGA. I don’t mean lose, I mean players die on the field. Look at your best high school player against kids that don’t even talk to a recruiter, who are attending college on their own dime and playing football for fun. Then consider the speed and strength that those best kids develope at UGA on top of the skills they had in high school.

FLDAWG

May 5th, 2009
5:31 pm

Money drives the scheduling four or five years out. Don’t think otherwise. If we could see the future, we would schedule teams in the top 20 annually. As for Michigan, USC, Texas etc., how much would it benefit us to play them? We already play in the toughest conference in the NCAA. Take care of the conference games and throw in wins over teams like GT, ASU, Boise St, and Okie ST., in various years and we will be fine.

KNelson

May 5th, 2009
5:31 pm

You cant have it both ways? Apparently you go both ways and it has done further damage to your thought process. What has UT done? Well they have never opened a season as Uga does every year with purchased wins. They have fired the one coach ga fans loved to call Phat Phil because you couldnt beat him ! Now UT has put together one of the best coaching crews in all of college football. Georgia is pathetic with your attempts at stats as long as they favor your program. Once again UT this year will be back to its normal domination of Ga. I would say that of Florida but no one on the Georgia team was even born since Ga could be UF twice in a row. Keep barking because after this year you will be on your hands and knees crying like a whipped dog.

How many ACC teams did UGA beat in 08

May 5th, 2009
5:32 pm

Georgia didn’t. not even 1 ACC Team.. UF Beat three ACC teams and GEORGIA AS ALWAYS.

The police could not make the georgia poodles play texas tech

May 5th, 2009
5:41 pm

man up girls!

dawgstephen

May 5th, 2009
5:51 pm

Well, thats 10 out of 12 games from BCS conference schools. We have Lousville, and Tech that year as well as 8 SEC games. UGA has committed to play one OOC game a year from a BCS conference, and with Tech being decent again, i think its fine for C-Car, and NMSU to be on the schedule…Go dawgs

AltamahaDawg

May 5th, 2009
5:57 pm

FLDawg, you are 100% correct. Would playing TX be interesting , sure, but it does UGA no good.

You schedule OOC for only 3 reasons. 1.) To fill in home games to make money. How we doing in that money making dept? anyone? 2.) To get national exposure for recruiting. Like TX and NJ? or 3.) To balance out a conference schedule just enough to maintain voter credibility. Uh, yea, not so much of an issue here.

Can somebody please give me examples where ANYBODIES OOC schedule does not fit into one of those 3 categories?

AltamahaDawg

May 5th, 2009
6:25 pm

“Well they have NEVER opened a season as Uga does EVERY year with purchased wins”

Knelson, how long have you been a VOL fan? Even if you can count that one one hand, does Fresno State, Wyoming, and UAB ring a bell? Never huh? Should I look back a few more year and list those UT openers for ya?

It wasn’t that long ago, that UGA was the ONLY SEC team that had to open with back to back conference games against SC and TN, and did so for years.

DawgGirl32

May 5th, 2009
6:28 pm

KNelson- what is this dominance of UGA that you speak of? Mark Richt’s record against Tennessee is 5-3.

DawgGirl32

May 5th, 2009
6:29 pm

Bill King: Just as a point of reference: Most of the anti-UGA comments in the past hour have been posted by the same person under various names.

Wow what a loser. I would bet a million dollars that it’s a Tech fan.

PTC Jacket

May 5th, 2009
6:52 pm

DawgGirl: He probably meant overall dominance of UGA. Idk Tennessee’s record against UGA ever since they started playing each other, but not everyone refers to the Mark Richt era. Might wanna think about that.

NashvilleforUGA

May 5th, 2009
7:07 pm

google college football future schedules and click on the first link, these comments are ludricrous until you look at some of the teams that other schools play out of conference. So what, we get a gimme win between Auburn and Florida next year. No AD in his right mind would schedule a big time OOC game that week and that late in the season.

NashvilleforUGA

May 5th, 2009
7:09 pm

KNELSON: UT opens next year with UT Martin….is that not considered a purchased win?

Saint Simons

May 5th, 2009
7:12 pm

45-42!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahaha

Come on

May 5th, 2009
7:29 pm

Thats it, everyone attack UGA because they scheduled New Mexico State. Ignore the fact that UGA has one of the hardest schedules in the country, and nobody in the country would schedule a tough game between UF and AU. Also there is the issue that UCLA and Texas prob arent jumping out of their skirts to fly here to play UGA either.

PTC Jacket

May 5th, 2009
7:32 pm

Yeah, the same reason why UCLA won’t play Tech either *rolls eyes*

shane#1

May 5th, 2009
7:37 pm

Schedule schmedule. Man you guys are dumb! All you have to do is play a, I repeat, A, stromg OOC opponent and win a tough conference and you are in like Flynn! Unless you are Auburn! Then again you could be like tOSU and play one tough OOC opponent and win a conference that USED to be strong and you are in the MNCG. Can anyone else see that the BCS is a joke?

Aggie Here

May 5th, 2009
8:01 pm

shane#1 your comment —– Can anyone else see that the BCS is a joke?

I believe we all do and that’s why the OCC is a landmine for the top 20 NCAA football schools. There is nothing we can do about it as fans unless we stop watching it. supporting it and / or going to conference and bowl games. If we all stop supporting this current system with our real dollars; the money stream will stop.

Old Money then will be damned. They [Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, ESPN, ABC, FOX. NBC ] are not that blind to it.

so Let’s do it, empty seats, low ratings do send a message.

DawgGirl32

May 5th, 2009
8:23 pm

Well PTC Jacket, some of us actually like to live in the present. I referred to Mark Richt because he will still be our head coach next year when we play them. Might wanna think about that.

KNelson

May 5th, 2009
8:55 pm

I wear Tebow panties b/c I can’t stand that my beloved UT only has a 33% win percentage against Richt. Please overlook the 3-6 record.

AltamahaDawg

May 5th, 2009
9:02 pm

Knelson, I believe a few people have directly called you out tonight.

So basically, you either have no idea who The University of Tennessee plays in football, or you just toss out random comments with total disregard for how dumb it makes you look. We would like to know which one of those you would like to claim. Personally, I think it’s both.

Aggie Here

May 5th, 2009
9:08 pm

I am sorry everyone, I should not have written post at all today. I am a idiot and forgot to take my pills today. I know that my lame school that I barely gradeated from will lose almost all of our games. I also want to go on and say that I am a gay. Plus, there is nothing funny about the trail of tears or the civil war. I am now watching myself turn into a ****, I blow.

P.S

Has anyone seen my pocket protector.
SHUT UP self SHUT UP

idiot

AltamahaDawg

May 5th, 2009
9:10 pm

Not sure when you little boys are going to learn not to mess with DawgGirl32. I hope not anytime soon, because it’s pretty entertaining to see her calmly, factually, put you in your place.

PTC DAWG

May 5th, 2009
9:35 pm

I still can’t believe this blogster is a UGA fan. Again I ask, who would he have us playing the week after FU and the week before AU? Keep in mind we play 8 SEC games, play AT Stillwater vs OSU and play AT Atlanta vs GT. Some of you need to buy a vowel…cause you don’t have a CLUE.

john

May 5th, 2009
9:52 pm

Dump GT off the schedule and add USC, MI, TX or OSU, etc in their place then if we’re going to add top quality to the schedule.

Beef up the schedule to some good teams, lose to them, and then whining starts cause the schedule is too rough. Round and round we go on the schedule carousel… “add top teams!”, “no take some of them off”, “add top teams!”, “no take some of them off”….zzzzzz

So what major college football program in this country DOES NOT have “cupcakes” on their schedule?

PTC Jacket

May 5th, 2009
10:04 pm

DawgGirl:
Well, I myself like to speak of the present too. If I were to think like you, I’d say that Paul Johnson is “dominating” UGA, but that doesn’t make sense, as you would agree, because we’ve only won the one game against yall with him. Think about that.

PTC Jacket

May 5th, 2009
10:06 pm

John:
From what I heard from other Dawg fans, the “top” teams don’t want to play against UGA because it’s a “tough OCC opponent”, which is why you’re stuck with the Aggies. Now, since you want to dump Tech off the schedule, what does that really say about us?
;)

shane#1

May 5th, 2009
10:20 pm

Aggie Here, I can see your point. However, we must consider the fact that college football brings multi-millions of dollars into institutions of higher learning. What would you do, have that money come from our tax dollars or our childern’s tuitions? I know that some of those dollars could go to more worthy causes than a state of the art weight room or an indoor practice facility, but the American peoiple deem football more important than educating future doctors, lawyers and engineers. So, if some fat cats want to give UGA twentyfive grand for a skybox and on-campus parking, then more power to them! You can bet your sweet bippy that they ain’t donating that kind of money to the library fund! What clients that these corporate birds are schmoozing want to go look at a new library? Isn’t it more fun to see Knowshon hurdle some guy?

BE#3

May 5th, 2009
10:45 pm

Bo Williams

May 5th, 2009
5:10 pm
Who had you rather have as your QB, Joe Cox (NC native), or TJ Yates (Ga. native)?

I’ll take Joe Cox. If you know anything about him, you know he’s a winner. He could have bolted for another school but he stayed and is money. (See DJ Shockley)

BE#3

May 5th, 2009
10:54 pm

1) A home and home with an ACC, Big 10 or Big East opponent wouldn’t be bad. The trips out west, especially sandwiched in between conference games should not be an option. The sun was coming up when the buses rolled back to Butts-Mehre after ASU last year.
2) CMR is right. We need to upgrade the training and weight rooms really bad!
3) Let’s play Tech in the Dome when it’s their year to host us. Otherwise, the only time we should play in the Dome is the first Saturday in December for the SEC title.

Haywood Jablowme

May 6th, 2009
1:11 am

Well, let’s see…….UF has had cupcakes on the schedule…..didn’t seem to hurt them any. Hell, Miami and FSU on the UF schedule are pretty much guaranteed “Ws” nowadays. Funny….Most of the UGA people I know want to go 12-0, but bitch when the schedule is favorable to do just that. And Mr. Bill King is one of the chief offenders. King whines when the schedule is soft, whines when the schedule is hard, and then bitches when UF wins em all with a comparable schedule. STF up, King. You can’t have it both ways.

dawg3fan4

May 6th, 2009
2:06 am

People relax, the overall trend is for UGA scheduling better teams year after year. You can’t play every game as a tough OOC game and sometimes even when you look for one you can’t find a quality team willing to play you that has the same open date. It seems as if putting at least one quality team outside of tech is the norm now with several years there being at least two. The WLOCP also makes this even harder which makes it more impressive what we have done lately and are doing in the future so give MR and DE a break.

Saint Simons

May 6th, 2009
2:25 am

ark, ole miss, miss st,kent, south cal,auburn, tenn, vandy = cupcakes!

heeldawg

May 6th, 2009
5:23 am

K Nelson, your ignorance is showing. In 2009, Georgia opens with Oklahoma State on the road (likely a top 10 team this season) and plays Arizona State and Georgia Tech out of conference, in addition to the usual SEC fare of South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, Vandy, LSU, Auburn, Kentucky and Arkansas. I’d hardly call that a creampuff schedule.

As regards 2011, Old Tech is right: home games=revenue. In these hard economic times, that’s simple math. Georgia would sell out Sanford if it played the Georgia Academy for the Blind. So they’ll never schedule a series OOC where there’s not at least a home-and-away (a la OSU or ASU). The only allure of an Atlanta game in the dome would be if the price is right….

jerry

May 6th, 2009
7:05 am

The NMS game will be a chance for Cox to shine—before the Gators tear his A$$ up.

HH

May 6th, 2009
7:35 am

I think, before scheduling a bunch of heavyweight teams, UGA should concentrate on beating who it plays now. Furthermore, scheduling teams like Texas, Oklahoma, Southern Cal, etc. may expose great weakness in certain of the coaching staff. In addition, you don’t want to get the hell beat out of you on national TV any more then you have to.

KNelson

May 6th, 2009
7:48 am

Typical dog fans . Yes you’re 5-3 against UT since Lord Richt was summoned. Why is it when discussing UF you want to look at the overall record yet its the past 5 against UT. You fail to ever discuss losing to UT for an entire decade straight ! Tennessee has played home and aways with Notre Dame, Miami of Florida, California , UCLA, Syracuse(Donovan McNabb days). UGA buys victories in order to get them to week 4. By the time UT plays Uga they have played a West coast team and Florida. Uga has played the likes of Ga Southern and NGa college for the deaf. Get over your pathetic selves Ga. You play stats only to your own favor .hell most of you sound like Democrats!

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JaxDawg

May 6th, 2009
9:15 am

KNelson- by the time UT and UGA meet, UT will have played: Western Ky, UCLA, @Florida, Ohio University(Bobcats, not Buckeyes)and Auburn. UGA on the other hand will have played: @Oklahoma St, S.Carolina, @Arkansas, Arizona St, and LSU.

2 questions: 1)Where are UGA’s bought and paid for victories in that stretch? 2)Which team will be more battle tested when UGA & UT meet?!

I know you’re probably bitter about the state of your program right now, but give it a rest! Your team sucks right now and probably will for the forseeable future, it happens. You guys are entering a “Ray Goff era” with Kiffin, and in 3-4 years maybe your program will be smart enough to hire either a proven coach or “the next big thing” in coaching. Until then just suck it up and deal.