Dogs fans want top teams in Athens

While scheduler Arthur Johnson confirmed to the Athens Banner-Herald that UGA has been approached about playing a nonconference game in Atlanta’s Georgia Dome in 2010, it’s apparently still not a done deal. Johnson said the Dogs, who travel to Colorado that season, still have two schedule spots to fill for 2010, “preferably at home.” Sounds like Georgia’s not going to jump on that dome offer unless it’s really sweet.

In the meantime, Johnson told the ABH, the New Mexico State Aggies have accepted an eye-opening payday of $925,000 to come to Athens for a Nov. 5 game in 2011, between the Florida and Auburn games. That’s the most UGA has ever bribed, er, paid a visiting team, but that’s apparently what schedule fodder costs these days. This will be the Aggies’ fourth trip to Athens, with the Dogs having posted big wins over them in 2002, 2000 and 1995. 

That will make for a less than compelling schedule in 2011, when the Dogs’ nonconference slate also will include Louisville and Coastal Carolina in addition to the Trade School, and the rotating SEC schedule has us playing the two Mississippi schools that year. 

So far, UGA’s effort in recent seasons to branch out from mostly playing designated losers with directional names in bolstering its nonconference schedule has produced middling results, with the likes of Boise State, Colorado, Okie State, Arizona State and, a few years down the road, Clemson. But in talking with Dog fans, I hear a definite yearning for the program to kick it up a notch and schedule a top name, preferably to a home-and-home deal, not a one-off in Atlanta.

The team mentioned most often by fans? Easy. Texas (where it’s still 10 to 9). Apparently a lot of the Bulldog Nation would like to see the Dogs matched up with the Longhorns and wouldn’t mind a trip to Austin at all. Other names that come up frequently in such conversations include Michigan (the Dogs were last in Ann Arbor for Vince Dooley’s major upset in 1965) and Oklahoma. USC’s Trojans, not so much. What with the distance involved, that seems like a better bowl match. 

Speaking of bowl games, Collegefootballnews.com has come up with a fanciful “way too early” set of predictions for the coming season’s BCS bowl matchups, which you can read here

And while on the subject of the BCS, I’m not a fan of that very flawed system of picking a national college football champion, but I know one thing for sure: Getting Congress involved isn’t a good idea. You probably read about last week’s hearing held by a House subcommittee in which a Republican congressman from Texas threatened the BCS with legislation preventing it from calling its title game a “national” championship unless it starts moving toward a playoff system. 

Like most fans, of course, I’d prefer a playoff to the current mess involving polls and computer rankings, but the real problem with Congress getting involved is all the talk about how the BCS, controlled by the major conferences, isn’t a fair way to divvy up the spoils. This is prompted mostly by the Mountain West folks, still pouting over Utah not being in the most recent championship game. A Mountain West Conference rep called the current distribution of money “grossly inequitable.”

I’m sorry, but all college football conferences aren’t created equal, and while the best Mountain West team can occasionally whip a good SEC or Big 12 team, the level of play in the also-ran conferences isn’t up to what the big boys play. As the ACC’s John Swofford, current head of the BCS, told the Congressional panel, the current system “represents the marketplace.” 

Eventually, the marketplace (the TV audience) will make its preference for a playoff heard loudly enough that the college presidents and bowls (the forces against a playoff) will have to come up with something along those lines. It may take a while and it no doubt won’t be a perfect system, but it’s likely to be a lot better than anything that Congressional meddlers can come up with. 

Bulldog Bites: UGA’s men’s golf team is the No. 1 seed for the NCAA Regional that will be held next week in Sorrento, Fla. The Dogs and 13 other teams will compete at the Red Tail Golf Club May 14-16 for the chance to go to the NCAA Championship May 26-30 at the Inverness Golf Club in Toledo, Ohio. … While the Diamond Dogs were imploding last week, the softball team finished out its regular season with three wins and saw sophomore Taylor Schlopy named SEC player of the week and senior Christie Hamilton selected as pitcher of the week. The softball Bulldogs enter postseason play with a 39-9 record. … Mark Richt told the Banner-Herald that he’s content with keeping an indoor practice facility on the back burner while training, weight and recruiting facilities at the Butts-Mehre building are upgraded. … Collegefootballnews.com also has come up with a ranking of the best programs for producing running backs, and UGA comes in third behind USC and Auburn. Check it out here.

222 comments Add your comment

Matt

May 5th, 2009
2:36 pm

I’m fine with it. Why schedule tough teams when you dont have to? We already play a tough SEC schedule. Look at FU’s schedule this year..it’s more pathetic!

WTF???

May 5th, 2009
2:36 pm

Ah Stephen-san, you have great knowledge of Dawg ambition. Veddy good.

AltamahaDawg

May 5th, 2009
2:37 pm

Knelson, yea, that takes real balls to go out and schedule that game with Fl. Still dodging my question I see.

BoiseDawg

May 5th, 2009
2:38 pm

Scheduling Oklahoma State and Arizona State in the same year is probably a little much, especially given we play Arkansas, Auburn and LSU in the west this year. But at a minimum we should be scheduling at least one team (in addition to Tech) from a major conference as a home/away every year. I for one would prefer that team be a Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 10 power over Clemson… nothing against Clemson, just like a little variety. If we want to pay to bring in a WAC team, why not Fresno St. Hawaii or Boise St?… at least make it a respectable WAC team.

pdawg

May 5th, 2009
2:38 pm

This blog sounds more like a blog Moore will write not Bill King….wondering if Moore is off today….just saying

Say no to NMSU

May 5th, 2009
2:41 pm

Bill,

Lets face it. UGA will never schedule a top 5 or 10 team as an early noncon foe. CMR said as much in an article with the AJC a year ago when asked if UGA would ever schedule a USC, etc. His exact verbatim reply was “Um, no. I don’t think we want to do that.”. And while I know Damon Evans is the AD who actually does the scheduling we all know CMR has a big say in the scheduling.

I think its obvious from what we’ve seen that he and Damon Evans are satisfied with scheduling good, middle tier teams like Ok St, Az State, Louisville, etc but that we will never actually step up to the plate and schedule someone that is a regular bcs conference champion. We could have had Va Tech which has won the ACC 3 of the last 5 years in an opener and instead we let Bammers take them.

As long as we continue to schedule good midlevel but certainly beatable teams and avoid the true big boys in each conference we will forever lag the truly big time programs.

WTF???

May 5th, 2009
2:41 pm

I thought they fired Terrance Moore?

Fools Gold

May 5th, 2009
2:42 pm

Why dosent mutt nations football team play that school that borders its northeast corner. Um North Carolina seems a better notch than a New Mexico or a Coastal… but then again this is expected from a Fools Gold football program.

PTC DAWG

May 5th, 2009
2:42 pm

Only an idiot would question our scheduling of late. I can’t believe the AJC blogger is now questioning it. Get a grip..

Who else would you propose between FU and AU? Are you so called UGA fans really that dense?

Rob

May 5th, 2009
2:43 pm

What’s the big deal? Everybody schedules a couple of cream-puffs every year. Florida played The Citadel late in their schedule last year. They ran the score up on them unmercifully and then went on the win the NC.

WTF???

May 5th, 2009
2:43 pm

Dude, if Bammer is stupid enough to continue scheduling like they are, let them. It’s only a matter of time before it bites them in the ass.

Clay

May 5th, 2009
2:43 pm

Bring some very exciting teams to Athens to play the Dawgs such as, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Penn State, Florida State, Miami and Ohio State. Bring them to ATHENS not Atlanta!!! Stadium holds nearly 20,000 people more than the Georgia Dome and Athens is a great college atmosphere! Not Atlanta!!!!

WTF???

May 5th, 2009
2:48 pm

Fools Gold, why don’t you worry about beating UNC & let us talk about our own schedule. What was the score? 28-7?

playoffs are not conference vs. conference

May 5th, 2009
2:51 pm

they should be designed to find the best TEAM in the country. Utah whipped up on Bama last year. Why can’t they have a shot? George Mason made it to the final four. Cal State Fullerton goes to Omaha nearly every year. I’m sick of the greed that these state and federally funded BCS programs display. It’s a sport not a business…. or is it?

WTF???

May 5th, 2009
2:51 pm

Clay, to hell with bringing them to Athens. We need to play them in New Orleans, Pasadena, Glendale or Miami…. Not in Athens….

Gators eat boogers

May 5th, 2009
2:53 pm

Look at Uf’s schedule this year. What a joke!!!!

WTF???

May 5th, 2009
2:55 pm

You can’t just say it’s a sport not a business with the revenue these schools generate based off athletics alone. That is kind of a naive statement. It takes a ton of money to field these teams, plane tickets, room & board, food, equipment…

jaglaw

May 5th, 2009
2:56 pm

hey, as much as I hate to say it, the Truth and jax dawg are right. UF has a cupcake schdule and have for the past few seasons. If we play Texas and loose by a point, and UF beats Southeast Central Florida Technical College by 100 points, we have a loss and they dont. thus, they play for the NC and we get a pat on the back for having a entertaining schedule. until some of the voters start acknowledging the teams with a difficult schedule, the teams UGA plays OOC will be easy. It is sad because it takes away from the regular season. OH wait, thats all college football has,..”regular season”… we need a playoff.

theTruth

May 5th, 2009
3:05 pm

KNellie, once again an idiot. Let’s see, OSU, ASU, Gtech. Name ONE school that has a tougher OOC. TN? Yeah, UCLA (didn’t you LOSE to them last year) OHIO, WESTERN KY, and Memphis? That is a joke just like you are. Maybe we should schedule cupcakes like Wyoming on our schedule for easy wins. Oh wait…….

theTruth

May 5th, 2009
3:07 pm

jaglaw, you are correct. Just like last year, that schedule caught up with UGA. It was ranked as the #1 toughest schedule and UGA got beat up on injuries.

Jake

May 5th, 2009
3:08 pm

If the SEC schedule was like the ACC, PAC 10, or Big 10 schedule we probably would go out and find Top 10 teams for Non-conf games! Like it is now we do play 4 top tens as it is. However, the last time I looked Okl St will be in the pre-season Top 10

PMC

May 5th, 2009
3:09 pm

I have no idea the difficulty it takes to build a college schedule… but this is not a matchup anyone other than New Mexico State should be excited about.

Thanks for calling it to our attention.

Reebok

May 5th, 2009
3:13 pm

Tech fan here. I was quick to give the Dogs their props for lining up a very tough schedule this year, and I am sorry to see it’s back to the same old Directional-School crap in 2011. As a veteran of the Gardner-Webb debacle, I’ll tell you that scheduling teams that you are expected to beat the crap out of cannot help you long-term. See you on the Flats in November…

Reebok

May 5th, 2009
3:15 pm

OK, one small caveat to my previous post…with a 12-game schedule, plus a bowl game and possibly a conference championship game, maybe it does make sense to schedule one glorified scrimmage to work the kinks out or give your team a breather mid-season. But Coastal Carolina & East West Mexico Tech in the same year…?

gtforever

May 5th, 2009
3:16 pm

UGA, what a JOKE!

Jake

May 5th, 2009
3:18 pm

Reebok, You guys have Jacksonville St and Duke? What are these games?

Voice of Reason

May 5th, 2009
3:19 pm

thanks for the answers guys. I didn’t realize there were that many from USC. Pretty impressive by USC.

KNelson- can you name a school with a tougher OOC schedule?? If not, then I guess you admit, by default, that UGA’s is the toughest!

OldTech

May 5th, 2009
3:20 pm

As a Ga Tech fan who lives in what is primarily UGA & Auburn territory, I have attended many meeting with representatives from the athletic departments of those two schools. I have asked these representatives point blank about their non-conference scheduling. The answer has always been, “We can sellout our stadium whoever we play and the economic impact of having 7-8 home games is too large to ignore” In other words, if we play the teams we want to play, they will want home-and-home contracts and we will not be able to play 8 home games a year. Auburn and UGA are “forced” to play 4 away SEC games per year and do not want the home field sitting empty any more Saturdays than absolutely necessary. So they schedule New Mexico State and pay them big bucks to come to the slaughter. But at $40+ per ticket for 90,000+ seats, or over $3.5 million dolaars in tickets sales, plus concessions, local business impact at restaurants, hotels, parking, etc. $925,000 seems a reasonable price to pay. That is why UGA, Auburn, Florida and other schools who can sell out they stadiums regardless of the competition will not play more than one quality non-conference game per year.

Voice of Reason

May 5th, 2009
3:21 pm

gtforever- you shouldn’t call UGA a joke for scheduling cupcake teams. GT is a cupcake team. (yes I know, you guys beat us this past year. Even a blind squirrel will find a nut every now and then)

DawgGirl32

May 5th, 2009
3:22 pm

“As long as we continue to schedule good midlevel but certainly beatable teams and avoid the true big boys in each conference we will forever lag the truly big time programs.”

Scheduling cupcakes hasn’t seemed to hurt Florida much…

Tom

May 5th, 2009
3:22 pm

“Georgia fans are passionate, but let’s face it….they’re not the brightest fans. Passionate, but not bright”.

- Eric Zeier, November 21, 2001

Bostonian

May 5th, 2009
3:24 pm

BC would beat GA. Have before and will again. GA will be 8-3 this season

Voice of Reason

May 5th, 2009
3:24 pm

very educational OldTech… thanks.

jaglaw

May 5th, 2009
3:26 pm

I am reminded of FSU when they first joined the ACC, a pathetic conference AT THAT TIME (emphasis added) and FSU had a 3 to 4 game season. they played bigf teams OOC and walked through their conference. I know that is no longer the case, but dont be suprised if one of the better MAC conference teams do the same in the ucoming years.
I can see it now, Utah or Boise State beats a UCLA, MIss.State, Notre DAme and walks through their conference….next up..National champs.

Voice of Reason

May 5th, 2009
3:30 pm

The only reference to that Zeier quote on google is a reference back to the AJC blog where a GT fan has said it before. Where, and to whom did he say this Tom? (reference)

WTF???

May 5th, 2009
3:31 pm

LOL!!!! posting as gtforever saying “UGA, what a JOKE!” Now that is funny!!!

Right On Time

May 5th, 2009
3:32 pm

Stephen, Matt, PTC, etc.,

First, I assure you I am a UGA fan through and through and only mildly crazy.

Now, this announcement about playing NEW MEXICO STATE in 2011 was dissapointing for multiple reasons: 1. It costs almost a mil., 2. It is a boring, boring game, 3. It is a step backwards from the previous steps taken in serious team scheduling.

I understand the need to have either an off week before or after the fla game, and I understand that if you get the bye before fla it is adventageous to schedule a weaker team for the week between fal and auburn (Troy in 2007). I am also aware that an SEC schedule is tough on it’s own. I have seen other schools schedules. I don’t pay to see those games. I pay to see UGA.

Now, I think the #1 revenue driving Athletic Department in the country should reward it’s loyal donors and sponsors with some good, fresh, competative entertainment. I, for one, think UGA SHOULD schedule top tier teams and should EXPECT to win those games. I have heard how the Jax game dictates the need for 6 home games which negates any chance of playing a major home/home. Then change that. If the Dawgs of 2002 or 2007 had a victory against one of the teams mentioned above, their SOS may have put them into the BCSCG. AZ ST, Colorado, OkST were all good starts and I was happy. But Louisville and MEW MEXICO STATE are like playing West Virginia in the Sugar Bowl and look how that turned out. There is something to be said for team buy in also.

UGA should take the attitude of anybody, anytime. So should the fans.

pdawg

May 5th, 2009
3:32 pm

That makes a lot of sense…..Terence Moore is fired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! King i hope you will not be the next Terence Moore here…..sorry if you have to blog like he did to……..anyways

Voice of Reason

May 5th, 2009
3:33 pm

Bostonian- will one of our games be cancelled and the bowl game not happen this year. We play 12 games plus a bowl game and 8 and 3 only add up to 11 slick. How long ago did BC beat UGA?

jaglaw- Notre Dame doesn’t have a conference.

Rob

May 5th, 2009
3:33 pm

Last year, UF had Citadel, Hawaii & Miami on their schedule and beat them a combined 152-32! So, how does scheduling teams you are supposed to beat the crap out of hurt you in the long run? It doesn’t freakin matter. Stick to the books techies, y’all don’t know football!

pdawg

May 5th, 2009
3:33 pm

By the way guys check out Florida’s schedule last year and see if it pays to schedule like they do

athensdawg

May 5th, 2009
3:35 pm

Why not put clempson back on the schedule permanently? That would be a start. Our athletic department is a bunch of weenies. We don’t want to play anyone – we can’t give up the extra game – blah blah blah. All about money…..for god’s sake, go play some people that are good.

Yeah, this “representative marketplace” we have is real good…it has UGA and USC play overmatched opponents instead of facing each other in Pasadena. Why? Well….we have heard all the excuses……..

I’m tired of watching the same ole teams play in the BCS every year….and then listening to the hours of justification by whomever has the broadcast contract about why the BCS is an effective system.

Artie

May 5th, 2009
3:36 pm

Mark it down…UGA gets taken to the wood shed by the ‘Pokes in Stillwater!!!

Oledawg

May 5th, 2009
3:41 pm

Where did Tee Martin go to coach this year? I thought it was NMSt. If so, I’m surprised the Vol’s fans haven’t said anything. Is there a connection and will they use the trip to show recruits that they will stand up to mighty UGA? Don’t forget Central Michigan, UAB, Ga Southern and other “cream puffs” that played bloody nose-to-nose football for 4 qtrs. Let other teams scream about a weak ooc schedule. Fellow Dawg fans, keep it to a low ebb and volume. Appalachian State/Michigan ring a bell?

WTF???

May 5th, 2009
3:44 pm

lol!!! 8+3=12. BC beat UGA agin…

Huh?

May 5th, 2009
3:46 pm

Those of you whining about the OOC schedule must not have been around much in the 90’s and early 00’s when we would have played a pop warner team for the right price. Go look at those schedules. It was embarrassing. Things have drastically improved in the last few years. You have nothing to whine about. As Bill mentions, the only thing missing is a few blockbuster opponents every few years. You can’t play those games every single year though. Its logistically impossible.

K-Town Dawg

May 5th, 2009
3:46 pm

Bostonian,

Why don’t you stick with making baked beans and samuel adams, and leave the college football to the big boys.

jaglaw

May 5th, 2009
3:47 pm

voice of reason, i know ND doesnt have a conference…but Utah and Boise state do. read carefully and you will understand my statement.

Diggity Dawg

May 5th, 2009
3:49 pm

“BC would beat GA. Have before and will again. GA will be 8-3 this season”

Hey Bostonian. Which Georgia game are you NOT predicting the outcome to?
Or does 8+3=12 in ACC land?

WTF???

May 5th, 2009
3:50 pm

Dude, it said ND walks through their conference. If they do not have a conference, they should not have been included in the statement. I’m just sayin….