Cupboard’s almost bare for UGA men’s basketball

New basketball coach Mark Fox came to Georgia with what appear to be pretty good credentials as a recruiter. His first big hire as an assistant, former Alabama interim coach Philip Pearson, is known as a great recruiter. Let’s hope they’ve got some magic working during the late signing period, which began last week and runs through May 20. Because as of Tuesday, with center Daniel Miller of Loganville getting his requested release from his letter of intent, UGA’s men’s recruiting class for this year is down to one: Franklin County guard DeMario Mayfield, who signed with former coach Dennis Felton last fall. That leaves the Dogs with eight scholarship players plus Mayfield and walk-on Ricky McPhee. Speculation is that Fox might have to bring in at least a couple of JUCO players to come close to fielding a competitive team next season. What do you think, will we have to suffer through an even worse season than the one we just finished before things get better?  

 

Watching Rich Poythress’ fast start for the Diamond Dogs early this season, I told one of my brothers that it looked like he’d decided before the season started that he was going to personally take up the slack from graduating boomer Gordon Beckham. So far, it’s looking like he could do it. Poythress, who went 4-4 Tuesday against Kennesaw State with three homers, is now fifth on the school’s all-time home run list with 37. His 20 so far this season are eight away from the single-season record that Beckham set last year. …

 

With Chelsey Gullickson winning conference freshman of the year, Georgia’s regular-season SEC champion women’s tennis team (sorry I didn’t mention them the other day!) placed six players on the All-SEC team released Tuesday. Dan Magill, grand old man of UGA tennis (and sports in general), believes it’s a good bet either the Georgia men or women will win an SEC tournament title this weekend, and he says don’t be surprised if both return to Athens with their third consecutive team titles. …

 

An Athens icon familiar to many who went to school at UGA or fans who stopped by for burgers and beer before or after a game was the original Allen’s in the Normaltown section of Athens. The place closed a few years ago (my brother and I took my son there on the last night) and the building was demolished, but the facade with the sign touting “Allen’s Charcoal Grilled Hamburgers Steak-Sandwiches” lives on and has been put up for sale on eBay by a Watkinsville antiques dealer. It has a buy-it-now price of $5,000 and an undisclosed reserve price if you want to try bidding less than that. A new, much spiffier Allen’s run by different folks is now open not far away on Hawthorne Avenue and serves a pretty tasty fresh-ground burger in addition to the original for-nostalgia-only Allen’s burger. The owners of the new Allen’s looked into buying the sign but decided it was too expensive and too big (5 feet high by 23 feet long). If you’ve got a really large Bulldog room, this might be just what you need as a finishing touch!

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Cuz

April 22nd, 2009
10:32 am

Bill was that you I saw at Allen’s on the last night? I thought it was Mad Dog Melton. Cheap burgers, cold beer and the Normaltown Flyers. It just does not get much better than that.

Bill King

April 22nd, 2009
10:34 am

No, wasn’t me, but I wish it had been!

Judge Dawg

April 22nd, 2009
11:13 am

Does the eight include the kid who got a medical red shirt last year?

DawgGirl32

April 22nd, 2009
11:19 am

I can’t see it being a bad thing. We really need to start from scratch. It may suck horribly next year but we’ll be better off in the years ahead when Mark Fox can start recruiting his own players. Most rational fans know that this isn’t going to be an easy fix. Georgia Sports does a nice job of breaking this down a little more.

http://georgiasports.blogspot.com/

Right On Time

April 22nd, 2009
11:25 am

Hey Bill,

Good memories at Allen’s. It was sad to see it go.

What was the name of the place to go for after partying food where the guy would yell obscenities at people? Was it Bernies? I remember him just cussing everybody out, but we all kept going. Good food, I think.. I was always “3 sheets” when we went.

As for roundball, Dawgs will be bad again next year. However, it can’t be much worse than this year.

TheStinger

April 22nd, 2009
11:31 am

UGA will never amount to much in basketball. You have to ask yourself why have they never beenable to recruit the local or state talent in the past. Lord knows there has been plenty of coaches there to try.Instead they get the leftovers from the other top schools in thestate and the country.

Judge Dawg

April 22nd, 2009
11:40 am

Ever heard of Dominic Wilkins? Does anyone believe that Felton is that much better than Fox?

Obama

April 22nd, 2009
11:54 am

Judge -

That is a reeeeaaaallll stretch to bring up Dominique – he has been gone, what 25 years?

At the same time, what great results have Tech had even with all the talent Cremins and Hewitt have had – 2 Final Fours to UGA’s one?

mdawg

April 22nd, 2009
12:03 pm

Just curious, Bill, but when is the last time you went to a Georgia basketball game? What do you really know about it?

Lane

April 22nd, 2009
12:20 pm

The program was in shambles when Harrick arrived, he then recruited players who were more than questionable – Harrick was and is and ADAMS PROBLEM.
Felton was in a bad position coming out of the gate and also signed some questionable recruits(or maybe he required too much of his players.

Fox needs to be given a chance, the guy has a great background, Johnson played for Tubby @ Tulsa. People forget than when Tubby arrived he had a very good base, starting to ramble.

Give the guy 5 yrs.

Patience

Cuz

April 22nd, 2009
12:29 pm

How about we give the guy three years to win twenty games? Or is that too much to ask?

carolina dawg

April 22nd, 2009
12:30 pm

10 players is more than enough bodies. It’s getting 7 or 8 quality players for gametime that matters. The two players and one recruit who left were not going to be in that top 7 or 8. Fox just needs to bring in a shooter at the 3 position and they could be .500 his first year of rebuilding. It’s all up from the Felton era from here.

LawDawg

April 22nd, 2009
12:32 pm

Right on Time,

wasn’t that place you are thinking of called “Herbies”?

NewnanDawg

April 22nd, 2009
12:35 pm

Right on Time – I remember that place, right down town. Was it Herbie’s? It’s been 20 years, so I’m not sure.

Anyway, Ebuka Anyorah? was the redshirt, and he is included in the numbers. The only goos news is that we do have the right mix of bigs and guards, just not enough of either. Dustin will have to get used to playing 40 min. like Sundiate did so many times.

Does Fox like to run the floor a lot? Maybe that would explain the Miller thing. I heard the only big knock on him was being really slow.

Go Dawgs!

NewnanDawg

April 22nd, 2009
12:39 pm

Sorry about all the typos above(good, Sundiata), and hopefully Mayfield will be ready to back up Dustin some.

Has anyone else noticed that Rivals has Marlon Brown also listed as a bball signee for us?

Champaign

April 22nd, 2009
12:40 pm

Herbies!
That was it. They said the place didn’t open until 10pm cuz the health inspectors wouldn’t come around that late. I remember the first time I went, the cook was holding a cigarette in the same hand as the spatula that was flipping burgers. He did have a hair net on though. Herbie was walking around showing everyone a polaroid picture of him with a topless Vegas showgirl. Had mighty good cheese grits. An awesome burger (probably made more awesome by the level of intoxication one normally felt by the time you ate there.)

And then there were the standard insults. My favorite was:
Patron: “Hey Herbie, you got no A$$.”
Herbie: “Yeah, but I got a big – - – - ”

Same thing every time i went. Dern…sorry for going all nostalgic an everything.

OZZFEST

April 22nd, 2009
12:43 pm

Who Cares? When Damon did not hire ‘Nique, I gave up for good.

BobDog

April 22nd, 2009
12:50 pm

We have a fertile recruiting ground with all of the D-1 basketball players the State of Georgia produces. We haven’t had the facilities, but I hear the coliseum, although small, is really nice now and the basketball practice facility is supposed to be among the best. I’m guilty that I haven’t been to a basketball game in 20 years. If Coach Fox can get some momentum for the program, we can be competitive in a few years.

thom

April 22nd, 2009
1:29 pm

The cupboard has been bare since Dennis Felton set foot on campus. What a complete trainwreck!

Steeledawg

April 22nd, 2009
1:50 pm

Allen’s was one of my favorite places ever. I met my wife there, and my son’s middle name is Allen.

The new place is not bad, but could never replace the original.

NewnanDawg

April 22nd, 2009
2:06 pm

Since he is listed as both a football and basketball signee on the recruiting sites like rivals, does that mean Marlon brown has permission to play both sports? That would be another athlrtic body on the floor.

YaDaddy Dawg

April 22nd, 2009
2:10 pm

Well, Herrick, Jirsa, and Felton have all wasted quality talent in Athens. I’m not saying (with the exception of the Herrick team that got screwed out of the tournament) that the talent was necessarily final four talent, but they definitely had the players to compete in the SEC.

Bobby Knight should have been the man to get the Dawgs back on the map, but with Evans snubbing the General, it is clear the A.D. is nothing more than that carpet-bagging Adams’ puppet. As long as Adams and his yes-man Evans are at Georgia, it will be difficult to build strength in struggling programs.

RevDawg

April 22nd, 2009
2:45 pm

My son played w/ Daniel his Sr yr at LCA (Daniel’s soph yr) and my wife works there. I’ve seen him play a bunch. We are UGA grads and go to 2-4 UGA B-ball games/yr. Here’s my take fwiw.

That GWA video is from Daniel’s Jr yr when he was 6′8″. He’s a legit 6′11″ now and has size 17 feet. He’ll top 7′. The league we played in is weak …really, really weak. The league is not about embarassing people or rolling up big #’s.

He got his D-1 attention from his AAU play this summer (his only yr playing AAU – Jon Richt didn’t play against any D-1 caliber comp until he got to Clemmuns). He got his offers from that (Tubby really wanted him ,but Minn too far). As soon as word got out last PM that he had been released he got phone calls from Virginia, Minn, and the like in 2 hours.

He’s got a really high B-ball IQ which helps make up for some of his lack of strength and quickness by his seeing plays developing and anticipating. A year of D-1 conditioning will improve those areas I’m sure.

He has great hands and a really soft 12-15 ft jumpshot (see free throw form in video).

He is a quality kid in every regard and comes from a wonderful family with major UGA ties – Spec Towns grandson).

I haven’t talked w/ him this week, but I’d guess he wanted to play for a coach he had previous relationship with (nothing against Fox, just nothing for him per se). He liked Felton and likes Hewitt. Even after he signed w/ UGA (he attended just about every UGA home game) he also went to a couple of Tech games and likes the staff and team there

Even though I “boo-hiss” the NATS every time I pass it on the downtown connector, I’ll be cheering loudly for Daniel.

Mad Dog

April 22nd, 2009
2:48 pm

Harrick was a bit shady, but Adams knew that well and may have wanted him for that reason. The fact is, Adams admitted Tony Cole. Harrick really didn’t want Cole, but as we have seen, Adams gets what he wants. Harrick would have been a pretty good coach if he had a strong president watching over him. Dooley did not want Harrick, but Adams rules with an iron fist. Cole has wrecked a number of careers, and it is a testiment to Adams’ cunning that he was not one of them. As we have seen, no successful coach wants to come to Georgia to be Adams’ hoe.

Lane

April 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm

Friend referred to the Harrick era, as a “halfway house for the incorriible”.

Fox team’s run the floor, comparable to “Tubby Ball”. Nevada’s program was down when T. Johnson and Fox arrived. Fox won 80+ games his 1st 3 yrs., winning % declined the last 2 yrs.

Remember Tubby came from Tulsa, with the Pitino connection!!

RealDawg

April 22nd, 2009
3:04 pm

Herbies was awesome. I remember the owner looked like Captain Lou Albano.

I think I drank my first PBR (age 37 now) at Allen’s. The place was awesome for some daytime drinking and old school video game playing.

Herbie’s got fed up with all the frat fights and eventually closed in early 90’s. Not sure if he ever returned.

Those late night burgers were the best.

I remember 1990 from seeing Shaq visit the Dawgs and UGA winning the SEC legit.

Mike

April 22nd, 2009
3:33 pm

There’s a new sheriff in town when it comes to burgers. They call it the Fat Elvis at the Blind Pig. Hands down the best burger smoking in Athens.

shane#1

April 22nd, 2009
4:46 pm

1- The bball program was shot when Felton got there. 2- The bball program is still shot. Fox will find recruiting difficult in Ga because none of the kids know who the hejj he is. He needs to win some games to help recruiting, but with seven or eight scholarship players it will be difficult. ESPECIALLY if he wants to run. 3- Adams would never have hired a man like Knight, that is, a man with guts and a backbone, and someone like Knight is exactly what UGA needed. The program needs a jump start and all the Athletic Director did was change a tire. Dam thing still won’t run!

Bo Williams

April 22nd, 2009
4:52 pm

Fox will be able to recruit kids from Ga. Unfortunately, they will be the players snubbed by the top programs.

AltamahaDawg

April 22nd, 2009
4:56 pm

It’s like the new Grill. It’s fine, but it’s not the old Grill.
Now the new Papa Joes/Blue Monkey/Diesel Alley never came close to the original.

Missing TK’s and yes even O’Maleys. I rememebr those being places that student, locals, and the returning alum could mix. Now it seems if you are over 20, there’s not a place in town to go, that you dont feel like a ghost, or flat out in the way.

So Athens needs 2 things: BB players and a couple of places for old guys who still got it.

AltamahaDawg

April 22nd, 2009
5:00 pm

Shaq fouled out, the place went nuts. ANYBODY who doubts that the steg (which wasnt near as nice back then) can ever rock, just wasn’t there that day.

Rabun Dawg

April 22nd, 2009
5:12 pm

RevDawg, why the change of heart for Miller? Was he that sold on Felton that he would not give the new coach a chance? I see he has already signed on with Tech, so that was a quick deal to say the least. Looks like another long year for the roundball Dogs with so few quality players around, or even bodies to sit on the bench. Hate to see such a quality kid get away without even giving our new coach a shot!

The Ole Ball Coach

April 22nd, 2009
5:13 pm

Millers turn from Georgia to Tech showed me all I needed to see
He does not have a Bulldawg heart……….and UGA will be better off looking for someone who love UGA not just a coach.

I-DOG

April 22nd, 2009
6:08 pm

if we finish in last place in the SEC, does that mean we get the #1 pick out of Atlanta?? getting worse before you get better only works in the pros where you can clear cap space and get high draft picks.

I wish the new coach the best of luck. The key is very simple, keep 1 or 2 of the top 10 players in the state of GA each year and fill in with roll players around them.

Easier said than done or we wouldn’t be on our fifth coach in about 15 years.

INDYDAWG

April 22nd, 2009
6:12 pm

SO Miller leaves and now we have one recruit left that has yet to say a word about this. We have not heard of Fox signing anyone. I understand that it is hard to recruit when you come in as late as he has, but if you want to build a wall around Georgia and one of your recruits that is from 30 miles away decides to leave what does that say? It says you have a long way to go before you can even get decent kids in your state. It will be at least 3 years before the Dawgs are even competitive. Living in Indy I am seeing what a top coach can really do when he has to rebuild. Tom Crean went through a horrendous season at IU but then comes back with a top 10 class. I can not compare my dawgs to IU when you talk about basketball, but it does show you what a well known coach can do. I hope Coach Fox does well I really do. I travel to most Football Games and get to see maybe 2 BBall games when in town. I just feel like he is fighting a battle he can’t win.

INDYDAWG

April 22nd, 2009
6:17 pm

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INDYDAWG

April 22nd, 2009
6:48 pm

Ok, Miller decides he doesn’t want to play at UGA. A guy who seems to bleed red from his vein with his family connections doesn’t want to come. That is a problem. Coach Fox wants to build a fence around the State. There is a fence and the fence is built by GT. I don’t know what Fox will do the hope is he does well. Very Well. I don’t know if he is the right hire or not, but I think the job will be harder than he thinks. Do you think if Sean Miller, Anthony Grant, or hell Bobby Knight had been named coach that any of these guys had left. No one knows Coach Fox. He is going to have to sell this job to himself before he can sell to kids. Go get some Juco Players and at least be competive. Look at what IU did with Crean. They sucked this past year but he now has one of the top ten classes in the country. Now UGA basketball is no IU but why can’t it be very decent and respectable. Right now it is not even respectable.

Cuz

April 22nd, 2009
7:05 pm

INDY you are repeating yourself. Yeah it is distressing, disturbing, discombobulating, all them dis words. But give the guy a chance, lets wait till at least four or five games before we start the FireFox website.

Steve

April 22nd, 2009
7:55 pm

Is Fox better than Felton? While we may not know for a few years, I do think Felton was on the verge of getting UGA back to respectability. He was recruiting well, and getting quality kids into the program. He says he couldn’t recruit the student/athlete guys for his 1st 4 years because of the stigma of Harrick. He signed a solid class in 2007, another in 2008 w/Thompkins, and another in 2009 with Miller and Mayfield – too little too late however.

AltamahaDawg

April 22nd, 2009
9:14 pm

Wait 4 games? Hell, lets at least get inside of 4 month before his first game.

INDYDAWG

April 22nd, 2009
9:31 pm

You are right Cuz my computer took awhile to refresh and couldn’t see the original post but sometimes you have to repeat yourself to get a point across. I will wait and see

grahzny bratchny

April 22nd, 2009
11:22 pm

First off, I hate to be a Tech hater, but you losers need to hang on the non-sports sites. This just in, UGA ultimately steps on your little balls at every turn. Even your basketball program wins about 1 out of 2 tries against “UGAY”. And, your superior baseball program…

As far as this Daniel dude that Tech has now. Never heard of him as some steal of a signee/letter of Intent. Daniel can piss on the half court line at that tiny gym on the flats – probably won’t get coached on that either.

As far as Felton, I would say he tried to live up to some expectation that was not truly expected at UGA. Felton did things right by the program. He got some suspect recruits, lost them, and paid for it. I would not be surprised if he never had a good thing to say about UGA admninistrators. Do we need a good coach that wins 20 plus or one that does it correctly?

I will wait on Coach Fox. Felton never really got outcoached by Hewitt…ask a nerd. There is no excuse for either program to not be competitive.

Bamafan

April 23rd, 2009
3:21 am

Give the new basketball coach some time and I think with Phillip Pearson help in recruiting the dawgs
will get better in the future. Pearson did a good job at Alabama helping the crimson tide from giving up last season. The state of Georgia has great players in basketball,football,baseball and other sports
also. So if Coach Fox can close off the fence around the state, the dawgs will be a good team in 2 or
3 years. Good luck to the new staff at Georgia!!

thomas spurlin

April 23rd, 2009
4:28 am

there was nothing like allens. spent many a night there enjoying a cold brew and cheesesteak and a good game of shuffleboard! wednesday nights featuring the normaltown flyers were pricless. ahhhhhh the memories. it ranked right up there with the original “coopers” and their “fishbowls”

Son of a Techman

April 23rd, 2009
8:43 am

Coach Fox has class. He allowed Miller to leave like it was the player’s wish, without the stigma of being unwanted by the new coach. Hewitt needs a 4 year guy to come in and graduate to help Tech’s APR, even if he never gets much playing time.

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UGAIsSoLastYear

April 23rd, 2009
12:14 pm

To ‘The Ole ball Coach’: what exactly is Bulldawg Heart? Is it football, men’s and women’s backetball or baseball? The 4 biggest sports? If so, you ain’t got none!!! We won all 4 this year and it is only a sign of times to come. Our BB recruiting class was ranked 3rd best before our new addition. Plus, our football team is only getting better. Long days ahead for you sorry.

Georgia Grad

April 23rd, 2009
12:41 pm

That 6-11 dude from the Church league was never going to play anyway. No problem with that, hope tech enjoys him. Hint, tech coach referred to him as being in the developmental program…not really a glowing remark on his future. He will tranfer to a small school in 1 maybe 2 years.