Georgia projects well for 2013, even with flaws in win
Mark Richt gets the Gatorade bath after Georgia's Capitol Bowl win over Nebraska. (Brant Sanderlin/AJC)
ORLANDO – The players wore hats reading “CHAMPIONS” in all cap letters. The fact that “Capital One Bowl” — and not SEC or BCS — also was stitched on the caps in a much smaller script might deflate that declaration a bit, but it doesn’t take away from where Georgia may be headed.
Were the Bulldogs great in their final game of the 2012 season? Hardly. The defense, purported to be loaded with NFL talent, too often played sloppy and undisciplined. The quarterback, Aaron Murray, threw two interceptions in the team’s first three possessions. It is what happens sometimes in bowl games. The Dogs didn’t save their best for last. Their best came in the next-to-last game against Alabama.
But ultimately, what came out of Georgia’s 45-31 win over Nebraska in the Capital One Bowl were signs that this program isn’t likely to take a step back next season.
There will be new players. There will be a different team personality. The schedule will be tougher. But the Bulldogs just finished a season that saw them go 12-2 and come within five yards of winning the SEC championship and going to the BCS title game. They rebounded from the crushing loss in the SEC championship game to win a significant bowl game. They showed resiliency by losing two starting wide receivers (Marlon Brown, Michael Bennett) during the season and a third in Tuesday’s game (Malcolm Mitchell). They endured several early season suspensions on defense and played without two defensive starters against Nebraska (John Jenkins, Abry Jones).
Jarvis Jones and several defensive starters now are expected to leave for the NFL. Maybe Murray comes back, but probably not. But Georgia is in a good place now, a player again on the national scene, and nobody could have seen that coming two years ago in Memphis when the team schlepped off the field a loser to Central Florida in the Liberty Bowl, dragging a 6-7 record.
“The seniors started a legacy here,” freshman running back Todd Gurley said Tuesday. “They’re passing it down to us, and we’re just going to keep moving forward and winning each year. I know a lot of teams will have the goal of going to the national championship next year, but we really believe that. We’re going to bring in a great recruiting class and we’re going to get it done next year.”
Todd Gurley, here breaking through for a 24-yard touchdown, finished with 125 yards rushing to lead the Bulldogs. (Brant Sanderlin/AJC)
As flawed as the Dogs looked against Nebraska, the result and the season projected well for the future.
It starts with the two freshmen in the backfield, Gurley and Keith Marshall. There were questions about the running game going into the season following the excommunication of Isaiah Crowell, but the two quickly eased concerns. In the final game of the season, Gurley rushed for 125 yards and a touchdown and Marshall made a difficult back-shoulder, 24-yard touchdown catch to give the Dogs a 38-31 lead early in the fourth quarter.
There’s the future.
It doesn’t matter if the starting quarterback is Murray or Hutson Mason. Georgia’s offense should function well, and the team should be in the middle of things again.
When asked about Marshall’s catch, offensive coordinator Mike Bobo said, “We’ve kept things pretty simple for him and Todd because they’re freshmen. But that play there gives us a level of confidence next year that we can expand their package.”
Gurley, Bobo said, brought “a physicality to the offense that we needed. He did a great job leading us as a freshman. I told him after the game, ‘You had a great year, but now you have a chance to be great. So let’s go to work.’”
Marshall said he battled knee tendinitis before the season, affecting his workouts. “I lost some of my explosiveness,” he said. “But it’s finally feeling better. I’m looking forward to getting started on my workouts.”
And then this: “Honestly, I feel we’re the best team in the country. We can play with anybody. We were one play away this year.”
There were hiccups Tuesday. The first half took nearly two hours. The two teams combined for 47 points, five offensive touchdowns, three interceptions (including Nebraska’s pick-six against Murray), a field goal and a blocked punt for a safety. The Dogs trailed 24-23, then 31-23. But Murray, after starting 11 for 24, stopped scaring NFL scouts. He connected with Chris Conley for a 49-yard touchdown, then later scrambled away from pressure to connect with Marshall. Later, he found Conley again on a “jailbreak screen” against Nebraska’s blitz — nice call by Bobo – for an 87-yard score. Checkmate.
It ended well. There’s reason to believe it could end well next season, too.
By Jeff Schultz
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Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
12:07 pm
Well, I am not going to educate them – just have them do what Upon Further Review was kind enough to do, and give us his school, his alma mater and whom it is he roots for with a handle Upon Further Review which sounds as if it could’ve even been a Bulldogs’ Football Fan. I am certain he wishes he hadn’t.
I have yet to see a single Notre Dame post. Not 1, although they have been taken to the woodshed in here.
# 4 AP Poll Georgia 12-2 for 2012 season
# 3 AP Poll Georgia 2002 season
# 2 AP Poll Georgia 2007 season
E A T YOUR HEARTS OUT !
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
12:07 pm
Well, I am not going to educate them – just have them do what Upon Further Review was kind enough to do, and give us his school, his alma mater and whom it is he roots for with a handle Upon Further Review which sounds as if it could’ve even been a Bulldogs’ Football Fan. I am certain he wishes he hadn’t.
I have yet to see a single No tre Da me post. Not 1, although they have been ta ke n to the woodshed in here.
# 4 AP Poll Georgia 12-2 for 2012 season
# 3 AP Poll Georgia 2002 season
# 2 AP Poll Georgia 2007 season
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
12:08 pm
Well, I am not going to educate them – just have them do what Upon Further Review was kind enough to do, and give us his school, his alma mater and whom it is he roots for with a handle Upon Further Review which sounds as if it could’ve even been a Bulldogs’ Football Fan. I am certain he wishes he hadn’t.
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
12:08 pm
I have yet to see a single Notre Dame post. Not 1, although they have been taken to the woodshed in here.
# 4 AP Poll Georgia 12-2 for 2012 season
# 3 AP Poll Georgia 2002 season
# 2 AP Poll Georgia 2007 season
E A T YOUR HEARTS OUT !
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
12:10 pm
Well, I am not going to educate them – just have them do what Upon Further Review was man enough to do, and give us his school, his alma mater and whom it is he pulls for with a handle Upon Further Review which sounds as if it could’ve even been a Bulldogs’ Football Fan. I am certain he wishes he hadn’t.
Brainiac (CMR/UGA Fan For Life)
January 4th, 2013
12:15 pm
@ Thomas Brown:
Don’t forget that the “Mighty Gators” were imposters(aka posing as) as a NO. 2 ranked team in the nation prior to the Dawgies disassembling their HOUSE OF CARDS and what was the name of that “JUNIOR COLLGE” that leed the entire game against UF until a last minute blocked punt rescued them???????
With Aaron Murray as their QB UF would have finished the season and bowl game undefeated and breaking National scoring records!!!!!!!!
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
12:23 pm
Any of our 6 UGA Quarterbacks would’ve led Florida to their 4th NC in 16 years 2012.
Unfortunately for them, we have them all and they have no one who can throw a forward pass, nor keep himself in so trying, from being sacked.
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
12:57 pm
And, I am certain that all of Nick Saban’s quarterbacks could have thrown a forward pass for Florida in 2012 season too, without being sacked.
SC Dawg i
January 4th, 2013
2:35 pm
If Murray comes back next year we can give Clemson a run for their money. However, they will beat us if we don’t get better at Run D and have a great group of young men in the secondary.
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
3:34 pm
Clemson isn’t going to beat Georgia in 2013 in their death valley. I am happy for them that they finally beat a team who is in the Top 25 in their last game 2012, but they are # 13 for 2013 and we’re consensus # 4 in both the Coaches’ Poll and the AP Poll. I’ve seen a lot of discussion about what we need to do to tackle on running plays, but I remain the only person saying the best way to improve that is to run the football more. I am more concerned about who will be out 1st game, than I am about Clemson actually being better coached, or having better players – because that just isn’t the case, now is it SC Dawg i ?
Clemson does not run the ball as well as we do, and they do not stop the run any better than us either; while their special teams are atrocious, and they can neither defend the pass nor prevent their own QB from being sacked.
Clemson’s recruiting class is ranked # 33 to our # 3.
Last season it was # 17 to our # 14.
2 years’ ago it was # 14 to our # 5.
3 years’ ago it was # 23 to our # 21.
4 years’ ago it was # 42 to our # 4.
So, the 5 years’ classes who will face-off next season :
# 26 rank Clemson recruiting classes average 5 years
# 9 rank Georgia recruiting classes average 5 years
When I get concerned about an ACC team beating our talent in coaching and players, will be the day we should do like Bobby Bowden and join the ACC so that we have an easy road. Clemson should not match-up with our guys, in any fashion and the world knows Clemson University is no match for The University of Georgia.
41-17-4 UGA over Clemson All-Time including
last 5 games in a row, we’ve beat Clemson.
Clemson ?
2013 ?
Cake-walk.
Swamp Thing
January 4th, 2013
3:36 pm
Thomas Brown – Great history lesson on Florida – Nebraska..
Now can we hear from you on Florida – Georgia in Athens,
And Florida – Georgia in Gainesville.
You seem to love Florida losing history – not to much for dogs to talk about there.
You won’t even win the SEC East next year…
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
3:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sDnVIeSn_k
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
3:45 pm
You don’t have a Quarterback on your roster, and you don’t appear to have a receiver either.
Ever heard of the Forward Pass ?
Will Muschamp guaranteed wins over UGA both years, and is 0-2.
Cake-walk vs Florida
3 in a row and
49-40-2.
Was there some other year you wanted to start ?
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
3:47 pm
Not in your lifetime, will Florida have the advantage over Georgia in the series.
42-38-1 in Jacksonville
After further review
January 4th, 2013
3:51 pm
Brainiac – Didn’t fail spelling or grammar. Typing was never a strong, suit, however – sort of like personality is not your best trait. BTW – people in glass houses should not throw stones; “Don’t forget that the “Mighty Gators” were imposters(aka posing as) as a NO. 2 ranked team in the nation prior to the Dawgies disassembling their HOUSE OF CARDS and what was the name of that “JUNIOR COLLGE” that leed the entire game against UF until a last minute blocked punt rescued them???????” I spot at least two errors in that run-on sentence.
Thomas – I have posted on this blog that I attended a Division 3 School. My post to Hammer was an allusion to the fact that, just as you have with me, you are now asking him to tell you what school he attended or roots for, as if that matters. Just for the record, I happen to have stated here several times that Georgia is a good program, and their overall record during Coach Richt’s tenure is something they should be proud of, regardless of the blather posted by some of their “fans” and detractors on this blog. I have also stated that my DIII teams accomplishments (five conference titles in six years) was done against competition less sturdy than the SEC. So what? It doesn’t diminish the accomplishment at all, in my opinion. Perhaps you’d care to comment on my post congratulating the new DIII champion, Mount Union, on the fact that, in the last 20 years none of their seniors has graduated without at least one championship ring. Add that to the fact that they’ve played in, if memory serves, eight consecutive national championship games, and I invite you to find a school from ANY conference that can match that. Keep in mind that Mt. Union’s total enrollment of about 2,500 is probably less than half that of the typical freshman class at an SEC school, and they don’t give athletic scholarships.
The one thing that most of the folks here have that I don’t have is SEC myopia. Yes, the SEC is an extremely strong conference at the moment, and the string of national titles is impressive. That having been said, I don’t believe they are the only decent conference in all of college football.
After further review
January 4th, 2013
3:52 pm
Brainiac – Didn’t fail spelling or grammar. Typing was never a strong, suit, however – sort of like personality is not your best trait. BTW – people in glass houses should not throw stones; “Don’t forget that the “Mighty Gators” were imposters(aka posing as) as a NO. 2 ranked team in the nation prior to the Dawgies disassembling their HOUSE OF CARDS and what was the name of that “JUNIOR COLLGE” that leed the entire game against UF until a last minute blocked punt rescued them???????” I spot at least two errors in that run-on sentence.
DawgNole
January 4th, 2013
4:00 pm
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
9:17 am
DawgNole January 3rd, 2013 4:29 pm
“Conversation heard after ‘96 Fiesta Bowl:
Dawg: “How many gators does it take to tackle a Cornhusker?”
gator: “Well, we don’t know.” ”
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I am not sure how The University of Georgia Bulldogs, my alma mater, and my team I root for against all others forever my whole entire lifetime, bar none, got into this discussion . . .
Florida also has beat Florida State (FSU) all-time :
34-22-2 Florida over FSU including 2012
49-40-2 UGA over Florida gators all-time including 2012 scoring 2 TD to their -0-
and in fact 2-0 UGA over Will Muschamp – despite his guarantees otherwise
6-4-1 UGA over Florida State (FSU) including the last BCS Bowl Game doubling your FSU score 26-13. Whom did you root for in that game, sir ?
” Dawg: “How many gators does it take to tackle a Cornhusker?” ” I presume this is a typo DawgNole ? And, no I don’t know, or I wouldn’t ask, now would I ?
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It wasn’t a typo, TB–simply a joke following the ‘96 Fiesta Bowl. Perhaps that’s not clear in the written words; you may need to hear the voice inflection (puzzlement) of “Well, we don’t know” to understand it. The reference is to the gators having an extremely difficult time tackling the Cornhuskers in that game, which fla lost 62-24. The joke actually was told to me by one of my wife’s cousins, a dyed-in-the-wool gator but a good fellow nonetheless, who sheepishly acknowleged that his team was no match for Nebraska that year.
And I’m sorry to say that I’m well aware of fla’s all-time record in football vs FSU. The Noles will not likely tie that series record in my lifetime–or yours–but I would point out that the first 6 games of the series were played in Gainesville. To be fair, the game should at some point be played in Tallahassee for 6 years straight. That likely would remove a little of the lopsidedness from the series. In that 26-13 UGA win over FSU (’03 Sugar Bowl), the Noles were down to their 4th string QB–a receiver by the name of Anquan Boldin, now a Baltimore Ravens wide receiver who holds a number of NFL records, set mostly with the Arizona Cardinals.
Who did I pull for in that Sugar Bowl? Very difficult call–having been raised in Tallahassee (with family still there) and attended both schools (degree from UGA). I can say only that I’m very thankful they seldom face each other. In fact, it had been almost 20 years since they played prior to that Sugar Bowl (a 17-17 tie in the ‘84 Citrus Bowl).
DawgNole
January 4th, 2013
4:12 pm
After further review
January 4th, 2013
3:52 pm
Brainiac – Didn’t fail spelling or grammar. Typing was never a strong, suit, however – sort of like personality is not your best trait. BTW – people in glass houses should not throw stones; “Don’t forget that the “Mighty Gators” were imposters(aka posing as) as a NO. 2 ranked team in the nation prior to the Dawgies disassembling their HOUSE OF CARDS and what was the name of that “JUNIOR COLLGE” that leed the entire game against UF until a last minute blocked punt rescued them???????” I spot at least two errors in that run-on sentence.
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What should be of greater concern with respect to Brainiac is that he’s not above posting untruthfully. See his Jan 2 contribution below (in which he claimed SC beat Mich without Shaw), followed by my post correcting him. Perhaps now he’ll address that “oversight”–since he has not done so the past two days.
DawgNole
January 2nd, 2013
8:26 pm
Brainiac (CMR/UGA Fan For Life)
January 2nd, 2013
7:57 pm
Since I am passing out kudos I may as well include USCe kicking some Michigan butt as well and all this without their 2 best offensive players, Lattimore and Shaw.
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Without Shaw? Huh? Better check your “inside sources” there, bud. Shaw played and played well: 18-26, 224 yds, 2 TDs, 0 INTs.
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
4:13 pm
Top 10 All-Time College Football Program in Wins :
759 Wins UGA Top 10 Football program all-time
# 3 in Bowl games UGA all-time
# 2 in NFL Draft Picks UGA Mark Richt era
You have only five recruits from Georgia in your Signing Class next month and only 1 has more than 3-Stars.
We have 5 recruits from Florida and 2 of them are 4-Star recruits, a Cornerback and a Running Back.
It seems the kids like to win in Jacksonville at the stadium where they have the Gator Bowl every year, not lose every year like Will Muschamp is doing just like we told him to do, but not like he has guaranteed every year only to lose to us.
50-40-2 after next year’s game is what the series record will be with you’ll.
How are your jorts ?
The most embarrassing loss by Florida in a bowl game since January 1966.
Against a team who 2-games’ ago, lost to a 7-Loss Team.
And, you mailed back more than HALF your tickets to the Sugar Bowl ?
Mailing in your performance, too.
That is absolutely disgraceful football vs Louisville. Maybe you should’ve KEPT
Charlie Strong ?
8 SEC Championships Florida
12 SEC Championships Georgia
And, you run in here saying we won’t even win The SEC East.
You mean like we did both of the last 2 years ?
Where were you ?
Your bowl game record is 20-20, not even a winning bowl record.
Our bowl game record is 27-18-3.
ALL-TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL TEAMS :
# 1 Michigan
# 2 Texas
# 3 Notre Dame
# 4 Nebraska – we just beat
# 5 Ohio State – never beat us
# 6 Oklahoma
# 7 Alabama – on this blog they think they’re # 1
# 8 Tennessee
# 9 Southern California
# 10 Georgia 759-402 -54
# 11 LSU
# 12 Penn State
# 13 Yale
# 14 Auburn
# 15 West Virginia
# 16 Syracuse
# 17 Virginia Tech
# 18 Georgia Tech
# 19 Texas A&M
# 20 Arkansas
# 21 Pittsburgh
# 22 Florida 680-387-40 thanks to Georgia
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
4:19 pm
“I can say only that I’m very thankful they seldom face each other.” Interesting.
That wasn’t an answer, you do know, right ?
After further review
January 4th, 2013
4:20 pm
Thaomas -
Unfortuantely, you seem to have misinterpreted my post again. Thomas – I have posted on this blog that I attended a Division 3 School. My post to Hammer was an allusion to the fact that, just as you have with me, you are now asking him to tell you what school he attended or roots for, as if that matters. Just for the record, I happen to have stated here several times that Georgia is a good program, and their overall record during Coach Richt’s tenure is something they should be proud of, regardless of the blather posted by some of their “fans” and detractors on this blog. I have also stated that my DIII teams accomplishments (five conference titles in six years) was done against competition less sturdy than the SEC. So what? It doesn’t diminish the accomplishment at all, in my opinion. Perhaps you’d care to comment on my post congratulating the new DIII champion, Mount Union, on the fact that, in the last 20 years none of their seniors has graduated without at least one championship ring. Add that to the fact that they’ve played in, if memory serves, eight consecutive national championship games, and I invite you to find a school from ANY conference that can match that. Keep in mind that Mt. Union’s total enrollment of about 2,500 is probably less than half that of the typical freshman class at an SEC school, and they don’t give athletic scholarships.
The one thing that most of the folks here have that I don’t have is SEC myopia. Yes, the SEC is an extremely strong conference at the moment, and the string of national titles is impressive. That having been said, I don’t believe they are the only decent conference in all of college football.
On a more positive note, don’t let others deter you from using “sir” when disagreeing. It shows that you can disagree with someone without disrespecting them, even when you clearly feel passionate about the subject at hand. That is a rare qauality these days, and shows a bit of class on your part.
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
4:39 pm
Yes, we played in the Citrus Bowl this year – the same bowl Georgia Tech fans on this blog criticized us for playing in – and against the same opponent they played in the Citrus Bowl in 1990 season.
2nd Tier Bowl Game.
Sugar Bowl was NOT a 2nd Tier Bowl Game, Florida just stunk it up in to draw their bowl record even in at 20-20 to our 27-18-3.
# 4 Consensus AP Poll and Coaches’ Poll 2012 Season : Georgia Bulldogs 12-2.
Georgia Tech has not won a Major Bowl Tier-1 Bowl game starting 1957. And, Georgia Tech is not # 18 in Wins starting 1957, but :
# 35 Georgia Tech starting 1957 in Wins 348-284-13
# 9 Georgia starting 1957 in Wins 438-204-15.
# 13 FSU starting 1957 in Wins 431-202-15.
FSU # 12 in the Coaches’ Poll before the bowl games and # 13 in the AP Poll isn’t going to be ranked anywhere near Georgia again for this 2012 season.
By the way, the 5-Losses you had the 2002 season you lost to Georgia 23-16 in the Sugar Bowl with your 5-Loss season, how many of the 5-Losses did you have different quarterbacks lose those 5-Losses 2002 playing in the Sugar Bowl against # 3 Georgia 2002 in the AP Poll with your 5-Losses 2002 FSU ?
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
5:07 pm
26-13 Sugar Bowl Loss by FSU 5-Loss season 2002, how many QBs did you play in those 5-Losses ?
After further review
January 4th, 2013
5:19 pm
Thomas – I have posted on this blog that I attended a Division III School. My post to Hammer was an allusion to the fact that, just as you have with me, you are now asking him to tell you what school he attended or roots for, as if that matters.
Just for the record, I happen to have stated here several times that Georgia is a good program, and their overall record during Coach Richt’s tenure is something they should be proud of, regardless of the blather posted by some of their “fans” and detractors on this blog. I may not be as avid a Bulldog fan as you are, but I’ don’t typically root against them, as you suggest.
I have also stated that my D III team’s accomplishments (five conference titles in six years) was done against competition less sturdy than the SEC. So what? It doesn’t diminish the accomplishment at all, in my opinion.
Perhaps you’d care to comment on my post congratulating the new D III champion, Mount Union, on the fact that, in the last 20 years none of their seniors has graduated without at least one championship ring. Add that to the fact that they’ve played in, if memory serves, eight consecutive national championship games, and I invite you to find a school from ANY conference that can match that. Keep in mind that Mt. Union’s total enrollment of about 2,500 is probably less than half that of the typical freshman class at an SEC school, and they don’t give athletic scholarships.
The one thing that most of the folks here have that I don’t have is SEC myopia. Yes, the SEC is an extremely strong conference at the moment, and the string of national titles is impressive. That having been said, I don’t believe they are the only decent conference in all of college football.
Keep using “sir’ when you disagree with someone. It shows you to be a class act. Very few people these days can disagree with someone, especially when they are clearly passionate about the topic at hand, without disrespecting them. The fact that you can is good.
After further review
January 4th, 2013
5:31 pm
Thomas – I have posted on this blog that I attended a Division III School. My post to Hammer was an allusion to the fact that, just as you have with me, you are now asking him to tell you what school he attended or roots for, as if that matters. Just for the record, I happen to have stated here several times that Georgia is a good program, and their overall record during Coach Richt’s tenure is something they should be proud of, regardless of the blather posted by some of their “fans” and detractors on this blog. I have also stated that my D III team’s accomplishment (five conference titles in six years) was done against competition less sturdy than the SEC. So what? It doesn’t diminish the accomplishment at all, in my opinion. Perhaps you’d care to comment on my post congratulating the new DIII champion, Mount Union, on the fact that, in the last 20 years none of their seniors has graduated without at least one championship ring. Add that to the fact that they’ve played in, if memory serves, eight consecutive national championship games, and I invite you to find a school from ANY conference that can match that. Keep in mind that Mt. Union’s total enrollment of about 2,500 is probably less than half that of the typical freshman class at an SEC school and they don’t give athletic scholarships.
The one thing that most of the folks here have that I don’t have is SEC myopia. Yes, the SEC is an extremely strong conference at the moment, and the string of national titles is impressive. That having been said, I don’t believe they are the only decent conference in all of college football.
Keep using “sir’ when you disagree with someone. It shows you to be a class act. Very few people these days can disagree with someone, especially when they are clearly passionate about the topic at hand, without disrespecting them. The fact that you can is good.
Ed
January 4th, 2013
6:09 pm
I see a great opportunity on defense. For whatever reason, the defensive whole was (most of the time) worth less than the sum of its parts. Lesser names might actually play much better as a unit, something this D struggled to do for much of the season.
The offense should be stellar again, regardless of who plays QB.
We need to open the PK competition. Morgan may improve greatly in the offseason, but for now we have to assume that is a weakness that needs to be addressed.
Overall, the future looks very bright.
DawgNole
January 4th, 2013
6:13 pm
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
4:19 pm
“I can say only that I’m very thankful they seldom face each other.” Interesting.
That wasn’t an answer, you do know, right ?
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Oh, it was an answer–just not the answer you want. Half of me pulled for the Dawgs, half for the Noles–depending on the game situation. Mixed feelings, torn, and still don’t know who I’d pull for if they play again. I know I wouldn’t have been unhappy if Kevin Butler had made that 71-yard FG at game’s end in the ‘84 Citrus Bowl.
DawgNole
January 4th, 2013
6:38 pm
Thomas Brown
January 4th, 2013
4:39 pm
FSU # 12 in the Coaches’ Poll before the bowl games and # 13 in the AP Poll isn’t going to be ranked anywhere near Georgia again for this 2012 season.
By the way, the 5-Losses you had the 2002 season you lost to Georgia 23-16 in the Sugar Bowl with your 5-Loss season, how many of the 5-Losses did you have different quarterbacks lose those 5-Losses 2002 playing in the Sugar Bowl against # 3 Georgia 2002 in the AP Poll with your 5-Losses 2002 FSU ?
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FSU’s still trying to recover from a decade-plus of substandard play, UGA from a couple of years of substandard play. I pull for both to be undefeated every year–and ranked as high as they possibly can be.
Hell, I don’t know how many QBs we played in those 5 losses (no hyphen between 5 and losses, TB). I just know we were down to Boldin (who also CAUGHT a TD pass) in the second half of that Sugar Bowl–and he had NEVER played QB before at FSU. It was FSU’s first 5-loss (hyphen required in that usage, TB) season since 1981, and frankly, the Noles did not earn the right to play in a bowl of that stature that year. I recall that there was some interest in pitting Richt against his old mentor Bowden. The Dawgs (13-1) certainly deserved to be there. There was no question who the best team was.
By the way, thanks for that extra 3 points. (And yes, I know you corrected it in your next post, so I’m just giving you a little free grief. And yes, I’m still aiming for a “kindler, gentler” 2013 on the blogs. Hope you are as well.)
RJ
January 4th, 2013
8:00 pm
Spurrier is not challenging for a NC every year. Give Saban his due but Meyer got out of Florida before the wheels came off.
After further review
January 4th, 2013
10:18 pm
Thomas – you misinterpret my post. Yes, I did go to a Division 3 school. Yes, I am, rightfully, proud of the fact that we have won our conference title five of the last six years, including the last three in a row. But I have also stated that I recognize the competition that has allowed us to do this is not near the level of the competition in the SEC. In addition, I have mentioned on several occasions that the overall Bulldog record under Coach Richt is one they should be proud of, and that many schools would love to have a similar record over the same stretch on any level, despite any contrary blather posted on this blog by fans of other programs, and even by some who call themselves Bulldog fans.
That having been said, I would invite your comments on the accomplishments of this year’s Division 3 champions, Mt. Union. They have been to the Division three championship game an astonishing eight years in a row, and in the last 20 years, none of the seniors in their program has graduated without at least one national championship ring. I believe this to be an accomplishment unmatched by any team at any level. And consider this: their entire student body, at about 2,500, is less than half of the typical freshman class at an SEC school, with no football scholarships.
All I hope to accomplish with posts such as this is to open the eyes of most of the folks on this blog who have a severe case of SEC myopia. Yes, the SEC is probably the strongest conference in the FBS at the moment, but there are other schools in other conferences that are able to dominate their divisions just as much as, or even more than, the mighty SEC.
One other note: keep calling your adversaries “sir”. It shows your class. Few persons these days have the ability to disagree with someone, especially over a topic about which they clearly feel very passionate, without disrespecting them. The fact that you can is to your credit.
goFalcons
January 4th, 2013
10:59 pm
is it just me or is johnny football just this good?
goFalcons
January 4th, 2013
11:07 pm
thomas brown i just read a few of your post,,,,,,,,,,you can’t be that stupid can you?
goFalcons
January 4th, 2013
11:11 pm
dawgnole, you no different then phil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you either give your heart to a team or not,,,,,,,you not rep the falcons and uga that good,,,,,,u are not somebody that needs to be the front runner for uga and the falcons,,,,,believe that,,,,,,all you do is take what ppl post and say neg. bs at their opinion,,,,,son you with us or against us,,,,,,,tired of you rep’n the dawgs and falcons,,,,,,,,,you go with phil and let believers like me who love our teams talk for us
goFalcons
January 4th, 2013
11:20 pm
J. jones left us, no problem he played when he wanted to play and that is not good enough in the nfl,,,,,o.tree left us no prombem…….the dawgs reload np
goFalcons
January 4th, 2013
11:22 pm
we the dawgs and are winners so o tree, J jones or murray leave,,,,,we don’t care we top 5 in any poll all day. so let them leave us,,,,,,fyi A murray please not leave us but we all good in athens
Thomas Brown
January 5th, 2013
1:07 am
After further review January 4th, 2013 10:18 pm
“Thomas – you misinterpret my post. Yes, I did go to a Division 3 school. Yes, I am, rightfully, proud of the fact that we have won our conference title five of the last six years, including the last three in a row. But I have also stated that I recognize the competition that has allowed us to do this is not near the level of the competition in the SEC.
All I hope to accomplish with posts such as this is to open the eyes of most of the folks on this blog who have a severe case of SEC myopia. Yes, the SEC is probably the strongest conference in the FBS at the moment, but there are other schools in other conferences that are able to dominate their divisions just as much as, or even more than, the mighty SEC.
One other note: keep calling your adversaries “sir”. It shows your class. Few persons these days have the ability to disagree with someone, especially over a topic about which they clearly feel very passionate, without disrespecting them. The fact that you can is to your credit.”
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Well, ok there sir. Thank you kindly for once-again speaking for me sir that I misinterpret your posts.
Your posts speak for yourself, not I, when you state that you’re rightfully, proud of the fact that we have won our conference title five of the last six years, including the last three in a row, and this gem you offer-up to bring the rest of us collegiate football fans up-to-date on the state of collegiate football and how the college football world does NOT revolve around The SEC.
Sure, it does.
You talk about competition level, and out of the other side of your same mouth, sir, you run in here and state how proud you are of your alma mater and their 3 conference championships in a row in Div III football with a 2nd round play-off loss 2012 season.
SEC so dominates the sport of collegiate football and render any discussion on such a point, moot.
goFalcons, sir, on an aside JOHNNY FOOTBALL IS that good, sir. Where have you been all season while I have posted his exploits on THIS BLOG to hear you say how STUPID I am, sir. Where have you been goFalcons, sir ?
4 Bowl Wins SEC now has 4-3
4 Bowl Wins PAC-12 has but their season is OVER 4-4
4 Bowl Wins Big XII has 4-5 LOSING RECORD & their season is OVER too
4 Bowl Wins ACC 4-2 but 12-team conference only 6 Bowl Eligible sad OVER
4 Bowl Wins Conference USA but their season, too, OVER 4-1
Big 10 are 2-5 also season OVER.
Big East does not have 4 Bowl Wins, either, and has 1 left at only 3-1.
3 Bowl Wins, that is supposed to be a conference ?
2 Bowl Wins, and their Defense is better than SEC Defenses giving us 45 points ?
Johnny Football was amazing this evening playing CHOKLAHOMA. What a joke of a program. CHOKLAHOMA is GREAT because they LOST to Texas A&M Notre Dame and Kansas State ?
COMPETITION :
WHO DID CHOKLAHOMA BEAT ?
5-Loss Team
4-Loss Team
11-Loss Team
6-Loss Team
5-Loss Team
6-Loss Team
5-Loss Team
6-Loss Team
9-Loss Team
7-Loss Team
That is CHOKLAHOMA’S STINKING 10-WIN SEASON, ALL OF THEM.
38 teams 2012 season Division FBS 1-A have 9-Win Seasons
38
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25 teams 2012 season Division FBS 1-A have 10-Win Seasons
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That’s NOTHING. If your team could have made it to a 10-Win season, your team would not even be in the Top 25, Georgia Tech with your stinking 7-7 stinking record 2012 season. And, who did you beat ? A 6-Loss unranked team, like CHOKLAHOMA ?
Choklahoma is going to end up # 19 in the Polls, and frankly they do NOT deserve that.
25 Ten-Win Season teams 2012 and the best win by Choklahoma is over one 4-Loss Team and one 5-Loss Team.
Oklahoma Sooners Big XII LOSING BOWL RECORD 4-5 season over # 19 in the nation one of 25 teams to put-up 10-Win season, beating
NOBODY.
Oklahoma Johnny Football SEC ran rings around them five-to-one better than Choklahoma.
20 teams put-up 11-Win Seasons 2012.
Only 8 teams put-up 12-Win Seasons 2012
NC will have 13-Win Season 2012.
SEC still has 2 MORE Bowl Games to get to 5 or 6 Bowl Wins, unmatched in college football from
ANY CONFERENCE ANY DIVISION.
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After further review November 26th, 2012 2:22 pm
“My own alma mater plays in D3…They, unfortunately, lost their second round playoff game, to finish 9-3 after winning their…conference for the third straight year and fifth out of the last six.”
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After further review January 4th, 2013 10:18 pm
“Thomas – you misinterpret my post. Yes, I did go to a Division 3 school. Yes, I am, rightfully, proud of the fact that we have won our conference title five of the last six years, including the last three in a row.”
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After further review January 4th, 2013 10:18 pm
“All I hope to accomplish with posts such as this is to open the eyes of most of the folks on this blog who have a severe case of SEC myopia. Yes, the SEC is probably the strongest conference in the FBS at the moment, but there are other schools in other conferences that are able to dominate their divisions just as much as, or even more than, the mighty SEC.”
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Good Luck with that, sir, for right now your posts Anti-SEC and “Mighty SEC” and OTHER CONFERENCES that are able to dominate, are not opening anyone’s eyes to anything, other than the replies to your posts, sir, that – well, yes The SEC will have the MOST BOWL WINS 2012 and absolutely dominate, have dominated, and will dominate the college football world, sir. That’s all you accomplish with your Anti-SEC and Anti-Georgia sentiments on this blog, sir. That it is especially true 2012 season, that The SEC is BETTER than the PAC-12, better than the Big East, better than the stinking ACC, better than the Big 10, and better than the Big XII Choklahoma beat to a pulp by Freshman Johnny Football 5-to-1 tonight, sir. And, they and he lost 2 SEC games this season.
Welcome to The SEC Johnny Football, Texas A and M, and Upon Further Review, sirs.
Go SEC and 12-2 Georgia 2012 Consensus # 4.
Thomas Brown
January 5th, 2013
2:14 am
DawgNole January 4th, 2013 6:13 pm
“Oh, it was an answer–just not the answer you want. Half of me pulled for the Dawgs, half for the Noles–depending on the game situation. Mixed feelings, torn, and still don’t know who I’d pull for if they play again. I know I wouldn’t have been unhappy if Kevin Butler had made that 71-yard FG at game’s end in the ‘84 Citrus Bowl.”
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No, as you know it was not an answer; but, this is, sir.
1/2-Pulled for Dawgs
1/2-Pulled for FSU when FSU 5-Loss 2002 LOST 26-13 Georgia Sugar Bowl # 3
Articulate as he isn’t, goFalcons took you to the cleaners on this point, did he not DawgNole, sir ?
goFalcons January 4th, 2013 11:11 pm
“dawgnole, you no different then phil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you either give your heart to a team or not,,,,,,,you not rep the falcons and uga that good,,,,,,u are not somebody that needs to be the front runner for uga and the falcons,,,,,believe that,,,,,,all you do is take what ppl post and say neg. bs at their opinion,,,,,son you with us or against us,,,,,,,tired of you rep’n the dawgs and falcons,,,,,,,,,you go with phil and let believers like me who love our teams talk for us”
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Do you think it might be possible for a man such as myself to have someone re-write this so that it makes any sense ? I believe he is TRYING TO SAY how smart he is and how STUPID both you and I are, DawgNole. It’s admittedly hard to know for sure. But, I believe this gentleman actually believes anyone can follow his thoughts in this post.
STUPID AS I AM, according to goFalcons without point of where he takes exception.
An issue I suffer not from, goFalcons, sir.
There might be a couple of points in there somewhere. This, also, is hard to know for sure. Maybe if I just delete the whole post, stupidly-worded as it is, and put a couple of bullet points to it, instead, someone might actually be able to read what the nincompoop calling me stupid is trying to share here :
(1) “you either give your heart to a team or not”
(2) “u are not somebody that needs to be the front runner for uga and the falcons”
(3) “all you do is take what ppl post and say neg. bs at their opinion”
(4) “son you with us or against us,,,,,,,tired of you rep’n the dawgs and falcons,,,,,,,,,you go with phil and let believers like me who love our teams talk for us”
Is English your 2nd language goFalcons ? Good Lord, son.
I would say it altogether, differently from goFalcons, DawgNole.
You either are a Dawg Fan, or you’re NOT. It is not a 50-50 I don’t know who I would pull for if FSU played Georgia. I am sorry DawgNole; but I would be remiss to not say sir, that THAT is NOT a Georgia Bulldogs’ Football Fan. Not by any stretch of the imagination, can that be interpreted, sir, as a Bulldogs’ Football Fan saying you are sitting there pondering your Navel, and do NOT KNOW who you would pull for if Georgia and FSU play a game.
But, I am stupid according to goFalcons, without point of what he read that makes me stupid, but he runs in here incoherently, as states to you that you should not speak for Bulldogs’ Fans when you post as if you are I, or he. Your obviously NOT. He also makes the point I have for the time since you showed up, DawgNole, just a couple of months ago, that you copy an entire post, post it, and then have a group of non-sentences in reply to it – which typically are NOT on the point of the quoted post, at all. Just you calling the poster a complete idiot.
I’m hardly stupid; and clearly able in my profession to get my point across having already closed 3 companies in 2013 for my employer. 3 really good sales of computer equipment explaining in detail to these 3 business owners exactly why my solution is better. These will keep our technicians busy the next month, or more, alone. I have 8 more who have said they will also. Not a bad start to 2013, nor Georgia at Consensus # 4 and Florida State (FSU) a good half-dozen worse in the AP Poll 2012, sir.
I do not pull for FSU. I have no qualms about whom it is I want to win any possible up-coming game. I have no torn-loyalties outside Georgia and the Falcons, nor the Braves for that matter. I have a strong-sense of Pride for The SEC and again no duplicitousness on my part for any. I also take grand exception to posts where the poster makes a point that you should not just post negative BS about the poster’s post, and all you do is to reply about his mamma or then vs than only, entirely leaving out his point. Nor, frankly, do I care for replies to direct questions such as in the 2002 Sugar Bowl between 5-Loss FSU and # 3 AP Poll Georgia, who did you root for, stating it was a reply but just not the one I wanted when you know completely, you failed to answer the direct question, you now have, and I am sure, like Upon Further Review, wished you never had.
The very essence of duplicitous is to have 2 Gods.
I mean for God’s Sake, you’re sitting there hiding behind your keyboard on the Internet : Go ahead and say it. What in the name of Heaven Above, could possibly prevent you from answering a direct question while you HURL all these questions to others ?
goFalcons said no different then phil to which you will get all over him about that, without addressing his point, nor answering his question. I came in here to talk football with Georgia Bulldogs’ fans, and with those of OTHER TEAMS who express whom it is their team is, and what their perspective is for it hones my skills in my profession, and is yes sir my passion in this, my hobby.
1/2-Pull for the Dawgs AIN’T NO ‘DAWGS’ fan.
Thomas Brown
January 5th, 2013
2:19 am
You’re obviously not.
Thomas Brown
January 5th, 2013
2:46 am
JeffSchultz 34
TomBrown 36
Thomas Brown
January 5th, 2013
2:47 am
92 % nationally.
Tomás Broun
January 5th, 2013
7:38 am
What kind of dope is Thomas Brown using?
Thomas Brown
January 5th, 2013
7:47 am
Mr. Georgia Tech fan, none. No wonder you don’t care for my posts, Georgia Tech on NCAA Probation in FOOTBALL 2013, 7-7 in 2012 and # 35 in wins starting 1957 with only 348 wins and no Major Bowls Won starting 1957, and 45 % of your football recruits graduates of Georgia Tech while your other male student-athletes in Golf, Tennis, Swimming and Diving and Track and Field three-fourth graduate according to the latest Federal Graduation Report 2011-2012, and oh yeah, 42-10 for 11 of the 12 seasons of Mark Richt against you.
jrmckin
January 5th, 2013
8:44 am
settle down boys. Phil will straighten all this out once he has his breakfast.
DawgNole
January 5th, 2013
9:32 am
goFalcons
January 4th, 2013
11:11 pm
dawgnole, you no different then phil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you either give your heart to a team or not,,,,,,,you not rep the falcons and uga that good,,,,,,u are not somebody that needs to be the front runner for uga and the falcons,,,,,believe that,,,,,,all you do is take what ppl post and say neg. bs at their opinion,,,,,son you with us or against us,,,,,,,tired of you rep’n the dawgs and falcons,,,,,,,,,you go with phil and let believers like me who love our teams talk for us
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Even TB struggled to comprehend the meaning of this latest collection of gibberish. You know nothing about me and my passion for the Dawgs and Falcons. It’s safe to say I’ve pulled for them–INTENSELY–longer than you have, so shut your yap with your illiterate ramblings.
Questioning questionable play in no way makes me a nonbeliever–and certainly doesn’t mean I don’t want them to win, you ignorant, narrow-minded freak. Open your closed mind for a change–and realize that a fan doesn’t have to act like you–a complete imbecile who refuses to accept reality when it happens–to be a true fan.
Old Dog Class of 80
January 5th, 2013
10:22 am
“Any of our 6 UGA Quarterbacks would’ve led Florida to their 4th NC in 16 years 2012.”
We have six QBs? I though we only had “the annointed one”.
Old Dog Class of 80
January 5th, 2013
10:23 am
And if “the annointed one” leaves for the NFL, do we have ANY QB with any real-game experience?
Old Dog Class of 80
January 5th, 2013
10:25 am
Can you say Joe Cox situation?
DawgNole
January 5th, 2013
10:35 am
Thomas Brown
January 5th, 2013
2:14 am
Articulate as he isn’t, goFalcons took you to the cleaners on this point, did he not DawgNole, sir ? . . .
He also makes the point I have for the time since you showed up, DawgNole, just a couple of months ago, that you copy an entire post, post it, and then have a group of non-sentences in reply to it – which typically are NOT on the point of the quoted post, at all. Just you calling the poster a complete idiot . . .
1/2-Pull for the Dawgs AIN’T NO ‘DAWGS’ fan
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YOU don’t determine who I’m a fan of, TB. Only I can determine that, and as I’ve stated many times before, I’m a loyal fan of BOTH UGA and FSU, as my handle–the ONLY one I’ve ever posted under on the AJC blogs (and for considerably longer than “just a couple of months ago”)–clearly indicates. And yes, that dual loyalty is possible–even if you can’t see it. Those closest to me have known it for as long as we’ve known each other, and have no problem with it because they’ve seen my obvious passion for both teams. A unique set of circumstances during my upbringing, which I will not detail here any further, made it happen. You can accept that or not. Doesn’t matter to me–and shouldn’t to you. And I have no regrets about it, despite your stated assumption to the contrary.
You’re not simply not reading all of my posts if you think I “just post negative BS about a poster’s post.” You’ve simply chosen to ignore the many times I’ve agreed with a poster and indicated the same–echoing his viewpoint and noting the validity of his post.
And I absolutely do not always post “entire” posts–especially with yours. When they’re lengthy I generally call out the sections I’m addressing. To ensure validity, I indicate handle/date/time, as posted (unless I’m commenting on the columnist’s observations), and always EXACT words posted. The longer your post, the more attention you lose.
I’ve tried to “make peace” with you in this new year, TB–in the hope that you would follow suit since I took the first tentative step. I’ve encouraged less acrimony on both sides, but I’m not sure you’re on board with that. You have to do what you’re comfortable with. If you continue to post material about me that’s untrue–or post anything I happen to disagree with–I’ll continue to call you out about it. And I know you’ll do the same to me if you feel you’ve been unjustly critiqued. The hope, as I noted earlier, is that we can do it with “less venom” than before, with fewer personal attacks. I can say only that I am still TRYING to achieve that, and I hope that with time I can succeed–although admittedly my level of success likely will depend significantly on the nature of your responses.
DawgNole
January 5th, 2013
10:42 am
Old Dog Class of 80
January 5th, 2013
10:23 am
And if “the annointed one” leaves for the NFL, do we have ANY QB with any real-game experience?
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Very little real-game experience among those left behind–should AM depart–and that remains a concern. I’d like to have my cake and eat it, too: AM returns, but others get significant reps. Probably not gonna happen with Richt and a tougher schedule though.
Old Dog Class of 80
January 5th, 2013
10:55 am
“I’d like to have my cake and eat it, too: AM returns, but others get significant reps. Probably not gonna happen with Richt and a tougher schedule though.”
I agree with that statement. What is frustrating is that even in games against “cupcakes”, Murray was left in until we were 30 points ahead. Why? A lot of people here think it was to pad his stats. In any case, the other QBs didn’t get any serious game experience. Another thing I fault Richt for.