
Aaron Murray crumbles after helmet-to-helmet hit by Alabama's Quinton Dial. (Curtis Compton/AJC)
If Alabama goes on to defeat Notre Dame in the BCS championship game, there’s a pretty good chance that Quinton Dial will play only a minor role. So the problem with what happened Friday is not that the SEC just gave Alabama some unfair advantage by avoiding suspending one of its players — the problem is that it is sending mixed messages about how much it really cares about head injuries in football.
Or are hits to the head only important when it’s convenient?
After reviewing three plays from the SEC championship game between Georgia and Alabama, most notably Dial’s helmet-to-helmet hit on Bulldogs quarterback Aaron Murray, the conference declined to issue any suspensions, releasing a statement that said, “After review, all subsequent action will be handled internally by the two institutions and the conference office is satisfied with their actions.”
To translate: The SEC will allow Alabama coach Nick Saban to decide whether to suspend one of his defensive ends for the national championship game. Insert laugh track.
Now, before we jump into the obvious conspiracy theories — 1) Is SEC commissioner Mike Slive just doing whatever he can to ensure the conference wins its seventh straight BCS title; and 2) Will he be mowing Nick Saban’s lawn after the game? — let’s give equal time to the game’s infractions. Steve Shaw, the SEC’s director of officials, also reviewed a roughing-the-passer penalty on Georgia’s Alec Ogletree and deemed it not worthy of a suspension. He also looked at Sheldon Dawson’s attempted eye-gouge of Alabama’s Dee Millner following a kickoff return. Again, no suspension.
Shaw said Dial's hit should've been a penalty but didn't rise to level of suspension. (AP photo)
But Dial’s second-quarter helmet-to-helmet hit on Murray — see video below –easily was the most flagrant foul in the game, made worse by the fact that no flag was thrown. Murray had just had a pass intercepted by Alabama’s Ha’Sean Clinton-Dix at the Tide’s 18. During the return, Murray became a defensive player and Dial had the right to block him. But he came from out of view and collided with Murray helmet-to-helmet. CBS analyst Gary Danielson said, “Aaron Murray, you have to keep your head on a swivel, but that is just unnecessary roughness and a hit to the head …”
Shaw said Dial should’ve been called for a personal foul. “We should’ve flagged it,” he said, adding that an official who seemed to be looking at the play actually was focused on something else. (Note: Even if Dial was penalized, it would’ve affected field position but Alabama would’ve retained possession

Slive's SEC can win seventh straight BCS title. Conspiracy theorists: That was a factor. (AP photo)
because the hit came after the interception.)
The bigger issue here is why Dial is not being suspended. The SEC has suspended three other players for hits to the head, one last season for an Arkansas player’s hit on a punt returner; two this season for hits by Mississippi and South Carolina defensive backs against wide receivers. I spoke to Shaw for 30 minutes and he never would, or could, give specifics as to what prevented Dial’s hit from being considered worthy of a suspension.
He talked about the players in the other three situations being “defenseless.” He talked about the fact that Murray was technically a “defender.” He went on about how “our commissioner and really the SEC has been at the forefront of player safety.”
But when asked for specifics about what Dial would have had to do get suspended, Shaw spoke in grays.
“Do I condone hit? No. It’s something that should’ve been [penalized],” Shaw said. “But as for the acid test of the other one-game suspensions, overall it doesn’t rise to the same level.”
Here’s the problem: A conference either sets the bar on helmet hits and head injuries or it doesn’t. This looks fishy, especially given the proximity to BCS championship game.
When asked if this same decision would’ve been made in September, Shaw said, “My commissioner would say, ‘I don’t really go into hypotheticals.”
When told that left the door open to theories that Alabama and Dial were being given preferential treatment because of the title game, he again gave a vague response.
Finally when asked a third time if the impending BCS title game influenced the SEC’s decision to not suspend Dial, Shaw said, “No.”
But I’m less concerned about Quinton Dial than I am the seriousness of head injuries in football. With the blur of concussion-related litigation in the NFL and the suicides of several former players being tied to depression, dementia and other forms of brain damage resulting from head injuries, this is no time for inconsistent rulings from conference officials. There is too much at stake.
Yes, even more than a BCS title.
By Jeff Schultz
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Here’s one YouTube view of Dial’s hit on Murray
446 comments Add your comment
Rick James
December 14th, 2012
12:19 pm
The SEC wants Alabama to bring home the title..Murray could have seriously injured.Insane.
Yep
December 14th, 2012
12:19 pm
The message you are sending is that you are a cry baby.
toga
December 14th, 2012
12:21 pm
If you can’t run with the big dogs, stay on the porch you eye pokers. It was a clean hit, get over it.
Roll Tide
what of it?
December 14th, 2012
12:22 pm
well, at least they’re concerned about player safety
After further review
December 14th, 2012
12:23 pm
Probably should have been called during the game. Doubt that Saban will choose to suspend the player for the national champinship game, Mybe he’ll take a page from other coaches’ playbooks and suspend Dial for one of he cupcake games early next season.
BigDawg
December 14th, 2012
12:23 pm
Foul!
GADAWGS7
December 14th, 2012
12:24 pm
What a bs missed call that was! It may not have changed the outcome of the game,but to let this not go unpunished is awful.
Bruce Mac
December 14th, 2012
12:24 pm
Let em play. They should never have suspended the other guys. Flag them and eject them at the time or move on.
Mad Dawg 20/20
December 14th, 2012
12:25 pm
toga. You are an idiot. I was not a clean hit. He even stated that it should have been a penalty.
“Do I condone hit? No. It’s something that should’ve been [penalized],” Shaw said.
Gator Mike
December 14th, 2012
12:27 pm
Schultz is getting old. Calls are missed in every game, and none of us like it. The SEC made a decision. Leave it alone, The corpse from the game will not be buried for at least 6 months the way some of you are moaning. Bama Won! Get over it.
CJ
December 14th, 2012
12:28 pm
I’m rooting for Alabama to destroy Notre Dame. Nevertheless, Schultz is right; Dial should have been suspended.
te29wr
December 14th, 2012
12:31 pm
Shaw was such a poor official that they made he head od officials for football to get him off the field and they will not let him answer questions at media day or at other time when his authority is in question
I love the SEC but too many times have they looked the other way when Ala. is concerned.
But the way have you noticed how bad the official were in all of football this year. Iknow instent replay has to do this but many times they get it wriong after a closer look i.e. the game where the Colts knees were on the ground way beforte the pass was thrown How many agree?
Butt Hurt Schultz
December 14th, 2012
12:31 pm
Waaaaaah Schultz. The eye pokers have forgotten about it so why don’t you give it a rest. Geeez.
toga
December 14th, 2012
12:32 pm
Look at the video, Dial leads with his shoulder. Murray cowards at the last moment and trys to curl his body in a fetal position. Murray actually leaned his head into Dial.
tko
December 14th, 2012
12:34 pm
The one thing overlooked by the hit is that Murray missed a wide open receiver for a touchdown on this play.
Butt Hurt Schultz
December 14th, 2012
12:35 pm
“…easily was the most flagrant foul in the game.”
HOMERISM at its best. I would say the eyepoke was just as bad.
Plunge
December 14th, 2012
12:36 pm
Typical Cry Baby response by Schultz. Get over it.
Hankie Aron
December 14th, 2012
12:38 pm
Jeff- Warren Sapp was suspended for his hit against Chad Clifton and the situation was exactly the same if I’m not wrong. So you are correct in pointing out the SEC just wants #7 in a row. Head injuries and player safety be damned
Butt Hurt Schultz
December 14th, 2012
12:38 pm
HOMERISM… all under the guise of player safety. Really?
toga
December 14th, 2012
12:38 pm
The only thing better than watching Bama win is watching Georgia lose. Lifetime contract for Richt please.
ROLL TIDE ROLL
Hankie Aron
December 14th, 2012
12:40 pm
toga- I would say the same thing for McCarron if one of our guys did it. Helment to Helmet hits on defenseless players is ILLEGAL. Your Pall Mall smoke break is over, get back to work.
Cotton
December 14th, 2012
12:40 pm
Dial? His hit was a legal block. I was expecting possible suspensions for Ogletree and the UGA eye-gouger.
What?
December 14th, 2012
12:40 pm
You stupid red necks are wrong,Dial should have been suspended and I hope the Irish beats your ass.You need to get off your cousin dude that is called Incest.
DIT
December 14th, 2012
12:41 pm
I know people are saying to the UGA fans to get over it, but please keep in mind that it’s these blog writers that keep bringing up the game.
It’s over, Murray was over it in the 2nd half and had a great 2nd half. To all of these so-called “beat writers” please let it go! The game is 2 weeks over. Bama won, most of the Georgia people have long accepted it yet y’all make it sound like we have not.
I’m ready to hang in Orlando and watch my Dawgs beat the Huskers! Go Dawgs!
Kyle
December 14th, 2012
12:42 pm
what a joke the SEC commish is……HOPEFULLY, this moron Dial gets injured early in the NC game so he doesnt get to play. College football does not need slime like this guy. Amazing his COACH lets this go without any punishment……
Archie
December 14th, 2012
12:42 pm
Regardless of the hit, Murray got up and moved on to what was next. Go and do likewise!
Ga Tech
December 14th, 2012
12:43 pm
Shut up puppies, everyone knows you all play dirty football…bout time you got a taste of your own medicine….Great hit on Murry Bama!
Paul Finebaum
December 14th, 2012
12:43 pm
Jeff, your but must still hurt pretty bad…LOL
DB
December 14th, 2012
12:43 pm
Where is the eye gouge outcry Schlutz? The hit on Murray should have been flagged but it was a “football” play. The eye gouge was not. Is Richt suspending the eye gouger?
DIT
December 14th, 2012
12:44 pm
@Ga Tech – ClassLESS post. I expect nothing different from your fan base.
El Bravo
December 14th, 2012
12:44 pm
That hit, in my humble opinion, does not warrant a suspension. It deserves a flag for the helmet-to-helmet contact but not a suspension because Dial leads with his shoulder and not his head. The helmet-to-helmet contact was incidental (if not accidental). Then again, we would not be having this conversation if Georgia had won the game. We would all be on our way to Miami instead of whining at the AJC site…
Peter
December 14th, 2012
12:44 pm
TOGA…..you are the slime of the earth…actually thought people from Tuscaloosa would have been humbled after the F5….aparently, that’s not the case with you moron…
Ga Tech
December 14th, 2012
12:45 pm
Steve Shaw, the SEC’s director of officials, also reviewed a roughing-the-passer penalty on Georgia’s Alec Ogletree and deemed it not worthy of a suspension. He also looked at Sheldon Dawson’s attempted eye-gouge of Alabama’s Dee Millner following a kickoff return. Again, no suspension
Al
December 14th, 2012
12:45 pm
@ Ga Tech
11 out of 12 42-10……….now go away!!
What?
December 14th, 2012
12:46 pm
Bama necks did you crush your daughters Marlboros when you were on top
J'Dinkalage Morgoone
December 14th, 2012
12:47 pm
This story needs to be put to bed. The more they talk about this hit, the more UGA seems like poor losers. Football is a violent sport. A QB that throws an interception has two options: get off the field quickly, or try to make a tackle and deal with the consequences of being a defender. Helmets will crash together on a hard hit, which this was. Dial is 50% bigger than Murray – it was going to hurt.
Either way, did it affect the outcome of the game? Murray seemed to be able to put together some great drives in the second half. There were no ill effects.
Mr. Schultz, I believe you have watched enough football to know that this is how the game is played. You are pandering to your UGA readers by continuing to discuss this. If you want to prevent something like this from happening again, then make the QB off limits after an INT. Or teach them to be aware that they will be blocked and probably by someone very big and fast.
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 14th, 2012
12:47 pm
Today must be cry me a river day over in Georgieeeeee!
Hey Jeff..how about the eye poker and Tree’s headshot on AJ?????Come on sport you can’t have it both ways can you?
1980…..man that is a long long long time ago…Joe Cocker…”Cry me River”
GA Tech ....
December 14th, 2012
12:47 pm
I am still hurting….really bad…….UGA owns us 11-1……..we just got out stingers ramed again 42-10…….It hurts so bad…
DIT
December 14th, 2012
12:48 pm
Can we all just agree that no suspensions should be warranted, but flags should have been thrown on both sides during the game? OK, Good…….. Now let’s move past all these so-called beat writers crap that want to re-live this and talk about the up coming Bowl games!
Kirby Dumb
December 14th, 2012
12:50 pm
It’s all about winning Dude! It’s Bama..are you crazy…anything goes!!
Butt Hurt Schultz
December 14th, 2012
12:50 pm
Great post JDink and DIT.
Roll Tide and good luck next year. You think Murray stays?
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 14th, 2012
12:50 pm
Rambo said he wanted Eddie Lacey put in jail …the charge is the Mike Vick killing dogs charge!
Bo Duke
December 14th, 2012
12:50 pm
Oh Jeffy continue to take all the shots you want to at Bama and Saban (remember the crack you made about his height before the SEC CG ?)
As the 2nd biggest UGA apologist (behind Mark Bradley) I know you feel compelled to continue to disparage a program that has repeatedly proven its superiority over the dogs.
Please pick ND in the NCG so I can be assured of the 15th title arriving in T- Town
Maybe you will ever allow this post to stay on despite your dislike of the 1st amendment for those that dare to disagree with you.
DIT
December 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
Bama 31 ND 17
Dawgs 48 Neb 24
So. Cal 52 tech 3
So. Car. 38 Michigan 10
Gators 43 Cards 3
N. Ill. 28 Free Shoes -1
What?
December 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
Saban off to Cleveland and lots of red necks are prescribed Zoloft along with the Pabst Blue Ribbon beer.
DIT
December 14th, 2012
12:52 pm
I thnk Murray stays. I think he knows that his stock is not strong right now.
GA Tech ....
December 14th, 2012
12:52 pm
We really dont qualify for a bowl…..well, we did get a waiver to play in a bowl with our LOSING record……but hey, we are the wrech from Ga Tech……otherwise known as losersville
george
December 14th, 2012
12:52 pm
Dial will get his. Mother Nature takes care of folks like that.
Bo Duke
December 14th, 2012
12:53 pm
The video is clear, he hit him with his shoulder first.
nothing wrong with that.
Butt Hurt Schultz
December 14th, 2012
12:53 pm
@DIT – Maybe we can get a rematch of one of the best games I have ever seen.
GA Tech ....
December 14th, 2012
12:54 pm
Man DIT, you know how to hurt a guy……UGA and VaTech already put up 52 against us….do you think USC will also??? Please have mercy on us- we have a losing record.
bamagrad02
December 14th, 2012
12:55 pm
As a Bama fan, the correct call would’ve been a personal foul on Alabama. The ref missed it. SInce the ref missed it we should suspend the player?…Not in my opinion. If anyone should be suspended maybe its the ref who witnessed the play. Quinton DIal was doing what defenders are taught from pee-wee to pro football and that is to take out the quarterback when there is an interception. Murray shares blame here too, he needs to know that he is a live defender and eligible to be layed out on block as he was. The hit was helmet to helmet which deserves a penalty, but I have no problem with the intent of the play.
Funny
December 14th, 2012
12:55 pm
Schultz, you supported the NCAA/SEC decisions regarding Scam Newton, but because this decision (you think) impacted the outcome of the game, you disagree with it.
Again, what happened in one day for the NCAA to reverse its 1 day decision and unsuspend Scam right before the Auburn/Bama game.
I tell you what happened…again. Mark Emmert was a student, cheerleader (true) and President of Washington University. Oregon of recent has owned Washington. He knew Auburn had a better chance of beating Oregon than TCU did, hence the decision because Bama would have won and TCU would have played Oregon.
DIT
December 14th, 2012
12:55 pm
Who knows BHS – Maybe next year though I think the Gators might have something to say about the Dawgs getting back to the SEC CG. That was a heck of a game. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Lance
December 14th, 2012
12:56 pm
HMMMMMMM. Oh Jeff….do you remember writing this?
http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/11/02/florida-suspends-spikes-for-only-one-half-of-game/
Interesting read…Sheldon Dawson anyone?
DIT
December 14th, 2012
12:57 pm
Actually I think the old “Peach Bowl” will be one of the better ones.
LSU 24 Clem 21
Surprise article from the ajc...
December 14th, 2012
12:57 pm
Total BS article. Look at the hit and look at Dial afterwards. He was try to make a block on a player. It may have been too rough but he was making a block not trying to take out a player. He lead with his shoulder and then hit helmet to helmet. Now look at the hit to AJ. It was helmet to helmet after the pass and at no point was AJ considered a defensive player. Lastly look at the eye gouging. This is the one that is undefensable. Its not during the play and it has nothing to do with football. Now if you want to say it was unnecessary roughness and a hit to the head then fine it shouldve been a call but to suspend someone for that is just BS. I hope the dawgs and bama win the bowl game but this whole issue is bs.
Cotton
December 14th, 2012
12:58 pm
Jeff Schultz may want to go back and review his own words about eye-gouging:
Meyer goes soft on Spikes with half-game suspension
1:16 pm November 2, 2009, by Jeff Schultz
Urban Meyer just took, “Stand by your man,” a little too far.
Florida coach Urban Meyer’s apparent policy on eye-gouging is now clear. Only a successful blinding or maiming can result in a full-game suspension.
Meyer suspended Brandon Spikes for only the first half of the Gators’ next game against Vanderbilt for eye-gouging Georgia running back Washaun Ealey.
I’m not sure if missing one half of a Vanderbilt game really qualifies as discipline. But apparently SEC commissioner Mike Slive didn’t want to get in Meyer’s way on this one. I guess Slive only worries about the real serious issues: sound bites about referees, not trivial matters like jamming fingers into eyeballs.
What happened Saturday certainly did not affect the outcome of Georgia’s 41-17 loss to Florida. The Bulldogs themselves have devolved into one of the nation’s most-penalized and least-disciplined teams. Meyer felt compelled to say the linebacker was retaliating for earlier incidents that resulted in him having his helmet knocked off and being poked in the eye (he said).
But Spikes’ act was on another level.
“I don’t condone that,” Meyer told reporters in Florida. “I understand what goes on on the football [field], but there’s no place for that. We’re going to suspend Brandon for the first half of the Vanderbilt game. I spoke with him. That’s not who he is. That’s not who we are. He got caught up in emotion.”
Ealey was not available for comment Monday. It was a day off for Georgia players (the NCAA mandates one day off per week for players). Coach Mark Richt declined comment on the incident Sunday night.
But that didn’t stop this from snowballing into a national story Monday. The strongest comments came from Mike Golic, co-host of ESPN’s morning, “Mike and Mike” radio show. Golic has some credibility. He was a defensive lineman at Notre Dame and an eight-year NFL veteran. He has been at the bottom of a few of these piles. So what does it mean when he calls this, “one of the biggest chicken-bleep things I’ve seen in my life”?
And what does it mean when he says it was worse than when Oregon’s LeGarrette Blount punched Boise State’s Byron Hout in the season opener? (Blount initially was suspended for the full season by Oregon. But several weeks later the school announced a tentative reinstatement, and he may return this week against Stanford.)
“You can clearly see Brandon Spikes’ fingers go into the facemask of the running back for Georgia, and, I don’t mean just go in there — go in there and twist around,” Golic said. “It is a bad looking eye-gouge. And I know this guy is a tough player and I know he hits and I know he’s considered one of the best linebackers. But that’s one of the biggest chicken-bleep things I’ve seen in my life. Ever. Ever! To be that good of a player and have to do that – stick your fingers in a facemask and try to blind a guy, eye-gouge him, is pathetic, Brandon! Pathetic, that you would do it!
“There needs to be some disciplinary action. Everybody wants to talk about LeGarrette Blount from Oregon for punching that kid. I’ll tell you what. I’ll take the punch over this garbage. Any day of the week. Any day of the week over that garbage on the field of sticking your fingers in somebody’s facemask and trying to blind him. Stick your fingers in their eye? Are you kidding me…?”
Golic later said: “What a horrible move that is. What a classless, unsportsmanlike move that is.”
Meyer said his wife and defensive coordinator Charlie Strong both mentioned the Spikes’ incident to him. His initial reaction was to move on. Then he saw a replay of the incident decided to speak to Spikes about it.
But his initial balking indicates he didn’t want to suspend Spikes at all.
“Very emotional things happened in that game in particular that were not good for either side,” Meyer said, “but the bottom line is we’re Florida and he’s Brandon Spikes and we expect certain things.”
Nice speech. But it would’ve meant more if there was some action to back it up.
DP
December 14th, 2012
12:58 pm
Pathetic Jeff. Dial should have been flagged but he didn’t lead with his helmet or intentionally go for Murray’s head. The problem is Dial is 5-6 inches taller than Murray and he didn’t get down low enough to hit him completely below the head. I don’t know how you think that play was worse than trying to gouge somebody in the eye, which has nothing to do with making a football play and was after the play was over. Brandon Spikes did that a couple of years in a pile against Georgia and we heard about that for weeks.
Tackling or blocking by leading with the helmet is one thing, a defender hitting primarily at and below the shoulders while unintentionally making helmet to helmet contact because he’s taller or because the offensive player ducks his head is another. I think intent is what usually should determine suspension or no suspension.
I saw two of the other three plays that earned a suspension from the SEC in the last 2 seasons, and they were both a long way from the Dial play. In one of them, a guy on kick coverage blew up the punt receiver going full blast right through him well before the ball even there. And then he danced around celebrating. The other one was a DB who blasted a defenseless receiver and then did a little dance while the receiver was laying on the field. If Dial had put on a demonstration after the play or taunted Murray I’d agree a suspension was warranted and he probably would have gotten one from the SEC.
With regard to the Saban and the laugh track crack, given Georgia’s proclivity for late hit personal fouls over the last few years I’d hope you wouldn’t pretend that Mark Richt would suspend one of his players for the bowl game in the same circumstances. Saban had a backup lineman (LaMichael Fanning) body slam a Missouri player late in the game earlier this year. It was a Nick Fairley type dirty play, much worse in my opinion than Dial’s hit on Murray. The SEC didn’t suspend Fanning but he didn’t make the trip to the next game against Tennessee.
Boo Boo
December 14th, 2012
12:59 pm
I think the only one wishing he were a minor god is Jeff “Bulldog” Schultz. The real bisquit crux here is What the Heck is the NCAA anyway? It is some kind of Barney Fife police department in the middle of the Big City of professional football. Occasionally it gets on a scooter car and gives out parking tickets for illegally (local ordinances) seducing young boys to come be their fan bait. BUT, they know who pays their salaries and HUGE retiement pensions, as the NCAA is just a lap dog in a show that is run more by universities like Alabama and Georgia, where game officiating is about as bad as wrassling referees (always looking the other way when someone slips a wrassler an iron bar to hit his opponent with … but its really just a styrofoam prop). The NFL dropped the Bounty Gate charges, so it is back to open season on players that have the best chance to single-handedly change the outcome of a game that is a TEIAM sport (see the I in TEAM?). Aaron Murray always has the option to quit football, if it is too dangerous. All defensive players have the option of taking knives in the socks and stabbing anyone they please, as long as they know the cameras will catch it AND it might end up as a 15-yard penalty. Only in ice hockey do real police come onto the field of play (rink) and arrest thugs and charge them with 20-year to life imprisonment. So, Jeff Schultz, ease up on the NCAA.
DIT
December 14th, 2012
12:59 pm
The entire issue just needs to be dropped!! It’s over! Who else has some predictions of the bowl scores? I’m trying to change the subject here gang!
Gator
December 14th, 2012
12:59 pm
Bama has been known for years to play dirty. It is also known that bama owns the sec office. Maybe justice will prevail and Mr. Dial will get his due and have to be helped off the field. There is no room at all for players like him in college, pro, peewee any kind of sport.
Jeffro Bodeen
December 14th, 2012
1:01 pm
The lack of action is even more flagrant than Dial’s hit on Murray……Oh what a joke the Commission is……
Alabama Jack
December 14th, 2012
1:01 pm
Peter
:TOGA…..you are the slime of the earth…actually thought people from Tuscaloosa would have been humbled after the F5….aparently, that’s not the case with you moron…
You are beneath slime – anyone who takes joy from the devastation of a natural disaster and the deaths of innocent people can only be a single tooth egg sucking inbred UGA fan with a single digit IQ and no branches in the family tree.
BillySECfan
December 14th, 2012
1:01 pm
FWIW, it wasn’t helmet to helmet hit, but shoulder to shoulder. The TV guys jumped in to fan an issue discussed all season. Rogers is loping toward Dix returning the ball & could have become involved in an attempted tackle. The block was legal for that reason alone. To me, the attempted gouging was much more flagrant.
Dum-Bass
December 14th, 2012
1:01 pm
Here’s betting money that Saban will hold Dial out for the first quarter, and that will be it. This is your usual travesty and favoritism that exists in the SEC. The NBA has already lost me and college football is not far behind.
DeezNutz
December 14th, 2012
1:01 pm
Can’t believe it’s not a suspension. If Murray wasn’t a badass and ended up out of the game after that hit, then it would have been a suspension. Penalize the action not the result. Effing idiots at the SEC aren’t helping our national reputation as a league that will do anything to win. Consistency is key. I missed the Dawson eye gouge, but if he tried to gouge someones eye out then he should be suspended too.
Mark
December 14th, 2012
1:02 pm
If you are going to suspend Dial, then you have to suspend Ogletree as well. Slippery slope. It was not obvious that Dial had any intent to hit the head and the play was still ongoing when it happened.
David C
December 14th, 2012
1:03 pm
Should there have been a Foul for Helmet to Helmet the answer is Yes. But to suspend would have actually been crossing the line. Murray was with in 10 Yards of the Ball Carrier which made him legal to Block. Also what about the Georgia Player who did the Eye Poke seems like that player should have been suspended and it appears he is not. So the actions of the SEC Officials were correct. Even Murray himself said it was not Helmet to Helmet. So fans complaining are with Bais because there team lost the game. Ruling was correct..
What?
December 14th, 2012
1:03 pm
Irish 21 Bama Necks 17,then the crying starts from the necks.Maybe yall can hire Bobo.
DP
December 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
Cotton, good job on calling out Schultz’s hypocrisy on eye gouging depending on whether it’s a Gator playing for Urban Meyer (who he couldn’t stand) or a Dawg playing for Mark Richt.
DIT
December 14th, 2012
1:05 pm
Alright What?……… Who else sees the score the same way or differently?
DP
December 14th, 2012
1:06 pm
Jeff, could you explain the change in your opinion about eye gouging since what you wrote on the Spikes episode?
hornblowermg
December 14th, 2012
1:06 pm
the alabama stooge blind sided him and to the helmet. mccarron went crying to the ref after the play about a hit by ogletree that was very clearly onto his shoulder, and the ref joined him in the “crying game” with a late flag. i hope that the refs call “holding” on both teams in the ala-nd game.
DIT
December 14th, 2012
1:08 pm
Oh I give up y’all just want to live in the past instead of looking forward. The games over and every single one of the AJC sport “beat writers” have written about it. They know that the more people respond they keep their job.
Dead issue…. let’s move on. Don’t get suckered in!
furmanDawg
December 14th, 2012
1:09 pm
Hey, just so you all know. Schultz doesn’t go soft on the Dawgs. He’s not a homer. To me the game is over and I’m still proud of the way my team played. It’s a done issue and I’ll root for Bama to beat the Irish. But most of all I’ll pull for my Dawgs. Forgotten in all this is that Murray took a viscous hit and never missed a snap. That is one tough QB!
Susie Q
December 14th, 2012
1:10 pm
The same kind of “HIT” happened earlier in the game with GA being penalized. Whose fault is it that it wasn’t called against Alabama??? Maybe the GA player should have also faced possible suspension???
Dawgs 73
December 14th, 2012
1:11 pm
To all the toilet paper faithful, go f yourself. You inbred idiots would be screaming like little toilet paper baby’s if it were your qb on the other end of this play.
J'Dinkalage Morgoone
December 14th, 2012
1:13 pm
David C – where is it that Murray comments on the hit? That would certainly put an end to this issue if he said that it wasn’t a helmet-to-helmet hit. I’ve never heard so many complaints about officiating a game. It is tarnishing the legacy of the greatest SEC Championship game ever played. Maybe one of the best college football games of all time considering what was at stake, who was involved, and how close it was. Shame on everyone trying to find blame for losing the game vs. applauding the effort both teams displayed trying to win the game.
Two weeks of “We should have spiked it”, “The receiver should have battled the ball down”, “Dial should have been suspended”……enough.
Orlando Dawg
December 14th, 2012
1:14 pm
If Ogletree got called, what the H*ll was the no-call hit on Murray!!! Refs gave Bama the edge, that was clear to see…
DP
December 14th, 2012
1:14 pm
“screaming like little toilet paper baby’s”
Do they teach the automatic use of apostrophes to denote plural in Athens?
Paul in NH
December 14th, 2012
1:17 pm
Perhaps the guys from the SEC office were too busy at the IMG Intercollegiate Athletics Forum looking for more revenue streams to worry about the health and safety of the “amateur student-athletes”
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Conferences-Events/2012/2012-Intercollegiate-Athletics-Forum.aspx
Nah – nothing corrupt in CFB
Athensdawg
December 14th, 2012
1:17 pm
I love all of the Bama people, as long as it is for Bama there is no wrong. Lets see poison trees in Auburn, no problem, Rub your genitals in a passed out LSU fans face, “just boys being boys” no problem. So a cheap shot on a quarterback is just child’s play. At least they spread it around, no other school is safe from there classlessness.
JB
December 14th, 2012
1:18 pm
No surprise here. Just like the rich guy in a small town that owns and runs everything, I think we all knew what was coming. Nothing No doubt Bama has a great team and Saban is a very good coach…….But The hit was NOT LEGAL. The coach’s ought to demand an out of conference crew work that game from now on. Would that had made a difference in the outcome, no….but let’s take ALL the suspense out of the slant in officiating, real or not.
Bo Duke
December 14th, 2012
1:23 pm
Hey Honblowermg……………………
Roll Tide
Enjoy the Capital One who gives a crap bowl.
Bama will be busy winning another NC
Take heart though I am sure UGA will get another chance………………….in 32 years.
GTBob
December 14th, 2012
1:23 pm
Its not surprising because it was a legal play. If UGA had done this to McCarron you guys would be celebrating instead of whining. Murray was moving towards the ball carrier and he was viciously blocked. If he doesn’t want to get hurt then tell him to run to the sidelines or curl up on the ground in the fetal position while the non pansies on the field make tackles.
DISGRACE
December 14th, 2012
1:26 pm
They suspend during the season but not for a big game and a flagarant penalty.
Pathetic job by the officials that day and the SEC. The SEC office has no accountability
and modeled how to not be fair.
The SEC is the greatest show on earth except for the officials.
JB
December 14th, 2012
1:26 pm
I think most educated Bama fans would not condone the hit. The ones that troll here would kill kin to win a title. Wonder what Mr. Shaw would think if Murray was in the hospital paralyzed ? Should of been a flag…..Geez.
DISGRACE
December 14th, 2012
1:27 pm
GTBOB
you are a disgrace
JB
December 14th, 2012
1:28 pm
GTBob…..Helmet to helmet is legal?
DISGRACE
December 14th, 2012
1:28 pm
GTBOB
I feel confident that you have never made a tackle in your life except on XBOX.
Win P
December 14th, 2012
1:29 pm
IMO with deference to Mr. Slive & Mr.Shaw, they should do their jobs. Officials should have called all of the above mentioned incidents and awarded penalties and suspensions. Game is too physcial and possible lifetime consequences too great to tolerate selective penalities or sloppy officials.
Athens
December 14th, 2012
1:29 pm
@Athensdawg
Great post! Amen…….
Too bad JS didn’t ask: “Steve, Alabama only had two penalties called against them all night, one was an illegal procedure on their fake punt in the first half and the other was a pesonal foul in the second half; is this a record for an SEC game? UGA players were talking to the refs about their jerseys being pulled over and over again with no hiolding calls, have you taken a look? And, Georgia was flagged 3 times, alone, when the Tide was on their heels after an unconverted 3rd down giving them new life each time. Just seems a little odd don’t you think?”
terry
December 14th, 2012
1:30 pm
Schultz, you are clueless & need to crawl out from under from under the rock. You don’t know how things work in this conference. This is not a surprise.
toga's family tree has no limbs
December 14th, 2012
1:32 pm
@toga: So you say it’s a clean hit huh? Is this the same logic you use to explain to people how it’s perfectly acceptable for your sister to give birth to your son?
Roll Tide Roll….around the bowl and down the hole! I can’t wait for all the Bammer fans’ reaction when Notre Dame beats them and then Saban bolts to the NFL…..Enjoy the success now cause things always cycle around and Bamma will soon retreat back to mediocrity
Cornbread Mafia
December 14th, 2012
1:35 pm
I call Bull Chit!
JB
December 14th, 2012
1:38 pm
People only get ugly and adamant about defending something……when they know they are wrong……..But don’t won’t to correct it to make a wrong right…..I not as upset about no suspension as I am about a ref looking right at and ignoring it. I’m telling ya, they need a Pac 10 crew flown in to do this game every year. I can only think of one coach who would object.
hammerhead
December 14th, 2012
1:38 pm
Any comment by a Georgia fan regarding this situation will on be construed as being a whiny cry baby. Congrats to Alabama. Kick ND’s arse. Also, it’s interestingto see UGA haters fill up this blog. I doubt there’s a single Alabama fan among them. It baffles my mind that the Georgia Tech fanbase is that fixated on Georgia football.
AtlantaTruth
December 14th, 2012
1:40 pm
Legitimate hit during play. Man up folks and let’s move on.
wade
December 14th, 2012
1:40 pm
Why in the world would anyone suspend him if it might help Notre Dame win? I’ll write a check for $5K right now if it would guarantee that pompous collection of religious hypocrites from South Bend loses.Schultz – all good sportswriters eventually become over the hill schmucks who need to move on to something else. You may be getting close. The reason these schmucks keep getting a paycheck past their prime is that there are enough schmucks out there buying papers that like to read the hot mess.
GTBob
December 14th, 2012
1:40 pm
GTBob…..Helmet to helmet is legal?
If you can conclude that he was trying to go helmet to helmet. He lead into the shoulder and Murray flinched. Murray was not defenseless and was running straight towards the ball carrier. Dial had every right to block him as hard as he wanted and he did it viciously. If helmet to helmet can be called in every circumstance where one helmet meets another then almost every defensive line man in the country would get suspended every game.
BUMBle bees
December 14th, 2012
1:41 pm
GT ought to be. They are a pathetic example of how not to play college football.
They are a true embarrasement to FBS football.
TheSmoker
December 14th, 2012
1:42 pm
Whats T-Town stand for? Oh, we’re talking about Bama, so must mean Toothless Town LOL.
JSS
December 14th, 2012
1:44 pm
You tell ‘em Paul in NH!!!
BUMBle bees
December 14th, 2012
1:44 pm
GT BOB
A true pep squad leader
What?
December 14th, 2012
1:45 pm
Toga you must be the sex offender guy that put his balls on a MAN.Prison life will be great for you since you are gay,all the inmates are waiting on that puurty butt you got.Roll boy roll cause you are so damn cute
JB
December 14th, 2012
1:46 pm
And you been wondering how powerful Saban is. Wonder if this had been a player for Coach Freeze at Mississippi……Yea, Slive and Shaw would show us I bet.
JB
December 14th, 2012
1:48 pm
GTBob wears one of those yellow fuzzy Tech wigs 24/7. I can just picture the little twerp now.
Wayne
December 14th, 2012
1:48 pm
Chicken officials are afraid of Saban.. I hope ND beats the crap out of the rednecks
johnny o
December 14th, 2012
1:49 pm
Toga you remind me of the tree killer at Auburn and the guy who will serve time for what he did to the LSU fan in New Orleans!!!!!!!!!!!
Hillbilly D
December 14th, 2012
1:50 pm
CBS analyst Gary Danielson said, “Aaron Murray, you have to keep your head on a swivel, but that is just unnecessary roughness and a hit to the head …”
I pretty much agree with that. They should suspend him and the eye gouger, both.
GTBob
December 14th, 2012
1:53 pm
They are a true embarrasement to FBS football.
At least when Ogletree illegally body slammed one of our players we didn’t cry about it. Hmm, where was the SEC review on that play?
GT
December 14th, 2012
1:53 pm
I always get the feeling the refs hear and see more than we do through the press or on television. Like the Florida eye grouching thing, you had a Georgia player who has a tenancy to run his mouth, spit on defensive players and later was kicked off the team for attitude, yet he was a saint violated to Barnhart. And the excessive celebration penalty against Georgia playing Florida, the Georgia team was the most penalized in the SEC for personal fouls, pushing even their limits with the refs and now this one against Alabama.
I can tell you every bad thing about a player on a Steve Spurrier team, or a Florida team, but we have angels here at Georgia. And Barnhart was in the booth that night his quarterback was clocked. If the kid didn’t want to play all he had to do is lie down as soon as he threw the interception. If he had accidentally tackled somebody would they had call a foul on that too?
concern
December 14th, 2012
1:55 pm
Does it appear that ALA gets more free passes than other teams????
G-Dawg
December 14th, 2012
1:56 pm
There is nothing clean about that hit…the SEC offices..or either of those two programs in the state of Alabama! Now thats a fact jack!!
hit a single
December 14th, 2012
1:57 pm
I am not surprised. I don’t know how many remember when A.J. Green was called for a celebration penalty against LSU in 2008 that cost UGA that game. All he did was look at the student body and he is called and then later that night I watch celebrations that were 10 times worst than what he did not called. So I am not surprised.
G-Dawg
December 14th, 2012
1:57 pm
The only body slamming going on at Tech occur in tickle piles!!
hammerhead
December 14th, 2012
1:58 pm
Also, GTBob’s inference that Aaron Murray is a pansy is laughable. After the hit, Murray got up, walked to the sidelines (on his own) and played the remainder of the game without missing a play. I promise you if Quinton Dial had hit anyone of us under the jaw with his helmet, we’d all STILL be in the fetal position. Don’t take Schultz’s article or any comment by a Georgia fan and assign it to Aaron Murray. He’s proven himself on the field, not behind a keyboard!
G-Dawg
December 14th, 2012
1:59 pm
Btw…Go Valdosta State and Georgia Southern…lets bring home 2 championships this weekend!!
ole man
December 14th, 2012
1:59 pm
Man the AJC is really crying over UGA ….can’t stop writing about the last 15 sec and now the non call..whats next? I agree with Shaw and I’m not a Bama fan but will pull for them over ND.
Better be getting ready for your Bowl game…it will not be easy.
SSIgator
December 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
Geez, first we had another Bradley “I Just Cannot Let Go of the Fact That UGA Lost” article about the game and now another “Conspiracy Theory” article by Jeff. Wow, no wonder the rest of the SEC thinks that UGA fans are a bunch of whiners. With writers like these two, all they do is promote the stereotype and encourage the UGA fans to cry themselves to sleep sobbing softly into their UGA blankies.
stopthemorons
December 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
Terrible non-call. The white hat should be suspended for several games to include bowl and next year regular season games for not making the call. Not suspending the P O S player is below doing what is right. In some places they call it B S.
btgt69
December 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
Go back and look at tape of game. Both Danielson and Lundquist commented on uga leading the conference and ncaa on number of penalties especially leading in personal fouls. Richts response was ” I don’t worry about those penalties”. In other words, I recruit thugs, coach thugs, retain thugs. Go back and look at Rambos hits. uga is just as guilty.
Al
December 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
@GTBob
Nothing was wrong with Ogletree’s tackle or “body slammed” as you put it.
Good,clean,hard tackle. Deal with it.
LakeDawg
December 14th, 2012
2:01 pm
Dial wasn’t suspended for the same reason he wasn’t penalized during the game. Gotta have a Bama-ND matchup. The only reason thre was no suspension for the eye gouging is so the SEC could pretend they are being consistent. There was nothing illegal about Ogletree’s hit. It shouldn’t have drawn a penalty much less a suspension. BTW When is the last time offensive holding was called on the Tide?
ole man
December 14th, 2012
2:01 pm
agree G-Dawg…Go Valdosta State and GSU win it all !
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
2:02 pm
Do the dWags need some Kleenex?
The SEC didn’t suspend Ben Jones for his Clip on the Miss St player or his Punches to Fairley.
The SEC didn’t follow its rule on suspending Any Player that Leaves the sidelines to enter the field of play when there is a Fight on the field after the Auburn vs UGa game when Ben Jones attacked Fairley. Half of the UGa Starting players wouldn’t/shouldn’t have been eligible to play in the UGa vs TECH the following week.
dWag fans CRY when they think they were wronged but never Scream for their DIRTY PLAYERS to be suspended after a dirty play.
CRY MUTTS CRY LOUDER we can’t hear you.
Bill in Montgomery
December 14th, 2012
2:05 pm
The columnist, and others, keep repeating that this was a “helmet to helmet” hit. It was NOT. It was a shoulder to shoulder lick. Dial also used his forearm. The helmets might have hit after impact but it’s quite clear from the video that Dial delivered the blow with his shoulder. He COULD have lowered his helmet and used it as a missile to hit Murray with his helmet but did not. That he intentionally delivered the blow with his shoulder (and below Murray’s helmet and neck) makes all of this conversation moot to me. Also, Murray was/could have been a factor in the play. The ball carrier was less than a second from being right on him. On interception plays, defenders need to block players who can/might tackle the ball carrier. Murray qualified. I don’t even agree that a penalty should have been callled. If the same play had happened to A.J. McCarron I would feel the same way. He got blocked – a vicious block maybe – but that was all. I also agree that the Georgia player trying to gouge Milliner’s eye was a much worse play and much greater example of unsportsmanlike conduct.
dawgfan
December 14th, 2012
2:05 pm
If this was anything other than a vicious and cowardly attempt to knock Murray out of the game, why didn’t Dial block John Theus? Look at the video. Dial is right there in a position to block Theus but he ignored him and went for Murray. Theus was actually in a realistic position to make a tackle too while Murray was not.
It was a dirty hit and unfortunately those seem to be more and more common these days in my opinion. Everbody says “that’s football and get over it” but that is not how football is supposed to be played. Very rarely these days do you see a defender that is willing to meet a running back at the hole and go man to man with him. THAT is how football is supposed to be played and that’s the way it used to be played. All you see these days is a bunch of puss arm tackles and diving at ankles. They only act tough when they can get a big hit on a defenseless player that looks good on the highlight reel. This goes for EVERYBODY. I’m not just talking about Bama here people.
Thanks.
Al
December 14th, 2012
2:05 pm
@5150
Really????? What a sad and pathetic person you are!!
11 out of 12……………..42-10…………….Now who is crying????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Jeff Schultz
December 14th, 2012
2:05 pm
Why don’t you write another inflammatory article jumping on the bandwagon without all the facts you d-bag, hack of a writer
“All 4 player suspensions have been vacated”
- Paul Tagliabu
BUMBle bees
December 14th, 2012
2:06 pm
Fairley should have been kicked out of the sec.
What?
December 14th, 2012
2:06 pm
Wonder if Saban will have any influence on NFL refs at Cleveland.
GTBob
December 14th, 2012
2:07 pm
Nothing was wrong with Ogletree’s tackle or “body slammed” as you put it.
An Alabama player did the exact same thing to a Missouri player earlier in the season, was penalized 15 yards, and ordered by Nick Saban to publicly apologize. Personally I don’t care either way. I want football to be as deadly as possible but if you guys are going to whine about legal hits on your players then you should remember other borderline legal hits that your players did themselves.
LakeDawg
December 14th, 2012
2:09 pm
It was clearly helmet to helmet
Al
December 14th, 2012
2:10 pm
@GTBob
I’m not whining,you are.
hammerhead
December 14th, 2012
2:11 pm
Of course you do, Bill in Montgomery, of course you agree that our dirty play was worse than your dirty play. Our glasses are Georgia red and yours are Alabama crimson… Both plays should’ve been flagged and both should’ve/could’ve warranted a suspension. The fact remains, the game is over and Bama won. Congrats.
dawgfan
December 14th, 2012
2:12 pm
“Both Danielson and Lundquist commented on uga leading the conference and ncaa on number of penalties especially leading in personal fouls.”
They also happened to be completely wrong about that. I about threw my TV set out the window when I heard them say it. They totally pulled that out their azz and are wrong. Look it up.
My recommendation to you would be to think for your freaking self and not buy whatever you hear on TV hook, line and sinker. Penalty stats are available on the internet for all the world to see and you don’t need Danielson, Lunquist or me to tell you what they say. Grow a brain.
Thanks.
seabass
December 14th, 2012
2:13 pm
If this was against anybody but UGA, it gets called. We are still paying the officials back for that Florida celebration. An unfortunately unless they are made to be fair,they will not be. I mean when both anoucers chime in that it was excessive and helmet to helmet.
kerryb
December 14th, 2012
2:15 pm
Does anyone expect anything different from Shaw? Shaw was the most useless referee in the SEC and I don’t know how such a horrible referee gets the job of head of SEC officials. The SEC can NEVER suspend another player for a hit like this. If they try to the AD’s need to tell the SEC to kiss their behinds they are playing.
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 14th, 2012
2:17 pm
Hey Chick Graning where are you sport when Georgieee and Shultz need you? That mean old Alabammy is knocking folks out left and right…again
I give Murray some football cred for getting up. Salute #11…you got some tuffness no doubt. Dail should have drawn a penalty and he should have blocked #11 by just pushing him down.
I do recall today is Joe Cocker Cry me a River Day.
The REAL Phil
December 14th, 2012
2:18 pm
You morons like Bill in Montgomery that say it was not a helmet to helmet hit should have a one way ticket to the looney bin.
TO ME, it’s just part of football. Should have been a penalty, no suspension. HOWEVER, for this guy to say that this did not rise to the level of the other two SEC players that were suspended earlier in the year is preposterous! Any idiot like Bill in Montgomery can see that this hit was far more dangerous than those. If those players were suspended then one can only assume there was a reason this one was not. Because it’s AL and because the NC is coming up. It’s the preferential treatment that ticks me off, not that big boys play rough.
Hillbilly D
December 14th, 2012
2:19 pm
I want football to be as deadly as possible
There’s no reasoning with that.
duckafawg
December 14th, 2012
2:19 pm
Of course this is preferential treatment to advance the ESS-EEE-CEE’s chance of winning in Miami. No doubt the hit is worthy of a suspension…and I’m a Tech fan!!
Bama Tim
December 14th, 2012
2:20 pm
I notice a lot of media people were silent in mentioning the eye gouging and hit to AJ during their crusade against Dial. What about injuries that that could have happened there?? So if Dial’s hit would have been flagged, then everything would be OK??? This is tackle football. When a 6-6 280 lb DL hits a 6-0 200 lb QB, the result will be violent. Perhaps the new rule should be that the QB is walk away from the play.
As Gary Danilson pointed out during the Alabama-Auburn game when an Auburn defender was flagged for helmet-to-helmet contact initiated when the Alabama RB lowered his head, the rule needs to be looked at again.
To show the worst “use” of this rule, look at video of the Big 10 championship game where the Nebraska WR makes a blindside block that springs his teammate for a TD. it was a key play but a flag was thrown.
GTBob
December 14th, 2012
2:21 pm
I’m not whining,you are.
How am I whining? I enjoyed both hits. You have to admit, the look on Murray’s face right before the block was pretty priceless. I enjoy anything that makes everyone in the room go oooohhh.
DP
December 14th, 2012
2:22 pm
“An Alabama player did the exact same thing to a Missouri player earlier in the season, was penalized 15 yards, and ordered by Nick Saban to publicly apologize.”
Yes, Fanning had to send a letter of apology to the Missouri player and to the head coach. And Saban didn’t allow him to make the trip to Knoxville for the following game. It was a much worse play than the Dial hit on Murray. Ogeltree body slamming a Tech player was also much worse, but for some reason Jeff Schultz or Dawg Nation never called for a suspension on that one.
diamonddaveincali
December 14th, 2012
2:24 pm
Yep is a douche who would have been crying if McCarron got hit like that. Hey Yep, stand on a side walk and let me hit you in the same fashion dude! I would put you out of your miseries with a hit like that. drop your idiot take and get real. just because it was bama, YOUR TEAM, doesnt mean you have to go with YOUR TEAM. Have some class, oopps wait, i forgot, you bama fans like to put your scrotum of oppoasing fans faces. Not gay, no really it was a homosexual act.
Bama fans are classless. now for the eye gouging. look at the play prior to the so called gouged attempt. the bama player asked for it.
Screw Bama, I hope they lose the title, and I am a SEC fan, except for bama and auburn-they always cheat.
mad Dog One
December 14th, 2012
2:26 pm
It looks like if you play for a Ala. school (bama or barners) you don’t nave to play by the rules ike the rest of the SEC teams. This was ment to hurt Murray. Any helment to helment hit is a penalty period. GO DOGS & GATA
BehindEnemyLines
December 14th, 2012
2:27 pm
Yawn, quite literally nothing to see here.
harleyman
December 14th, 2012
2:27 pm
I have only one thing to say. At least Murray didn’t get up and cry like the little girl McCarron did when Ogletree hit him.
Alex
December 14th, 2012
2:30 pm
As a UGA grad, this hit is cheap but not dirty. Murray was moving towards the ball carrier and Dial led with his shoulder/forearm. The helmets made contact, but Dial’s shoulder did the majority of the damage. The helmets collided because Murray crumbled. Hate to say it, but it’s true. Can we move on now? The world isn’t out to get us like uneducated UGA fans would like to have us all believe
GTBob
December 14th, 2012
2:30 pm
Any helment to helment hit is a penalty period.
So any time in the future that a defensive player goes to tackle a running back and their helmets happen to collide, the defensive player should be suspended?
Alex
December 14th, 2012
2:31 pm
One more sec on my soapbox.. I’m tired of our fanbase acting like whiny babies. Man up and accept the results without always making excuses for our shortcomings
Joey (original)
December 14th, 2012
2:38 pm
It was what anybody who’s ever played football, a cheap shot. Shoulda been a penalty. Doesn’t need to be a suspension.
It would be good of Saban to at least acknowledge it in some way, other than ignore it.
Maybe next season we can even things out on the scoreboard, like we evened the Fairley cheap shots out the last couple years vs AU (83-7).
John
December 14th, 2012
2:38 pm
Check out the killers tweets. yeah no writing on the wall here
https://twitter.com/Ryan__Lanza
leeanc14
December 14th, 2012
2:39 pm
This column is a joke. At the VERY least, it should have been an argument for suspending Dial AND Dawson. Should a penalty have been called on Dial? Maybe so. But, he was involved in a play at the time of the hit on Murray. When Dawson attempted to gouge Milliner’s eye, the play was over, and it clearly had nothing to do with playing football. It was pure and simple classless, dirty play. Schultz has ZERO credibility by dismissing Dawson’s actions. The funny thing is, Murray said the hit was no big deal and moved on. The Dawg whiners should follow his lead…….
williebkind
December 14th, 2012
2:50 pm
I am not going to watch the NC game.
Under The Bleachers
December 14th, 2012
2:58 pm
Jeff, I respect you but you have this wrong, if Murray did not want to get hit he should have taken his #11 jersey to the sideline after the pick, but he ran toward the play. He became a defender.
Report about Dawson intentionally poking # 28 in the eyes or Ogletree twisting Lacey’s ankle in the first half.
It is football, get over it.
Joey (original)
December 14th, 2012
2:58 pm
I got a funny story about an “ear-hole” shot, in a football game:
I was a year out of HS when Herschel started on his record-breaking HS years, but Johnson Co played our school in the playoffs his junior and senior years. We won the first year, then Johnson co won it all in Herschel’s senior year.
Anyway, that last season, my good buddy John, who was a 150 lb, tough-as-nails, WR, got a free shot at Herschel, who also played MLB on defense. On a mis-direction play, John flashed to the middle and caught Herschel with his head turned, and (in his words) UNLOADED on Walker, making sure he got his helmet on Herschel’s, who never even tensed-up.
The next thing John remembered was Herschel picking him up, while worriedly asking him “you alright, buddy?”
John told me after the game, “I’ve blocked guys +50lbs bigger lots of times, but that was like hitting that (he pointed at the gym’s) brick wall.”
We’ve only laughed at him for going on 30+ years . . .
Rick James
December 14th, 2012
2:59 pm
What should we expect to hear from GT Bob and his Tech cronies?..De’Angelo Tyson’s leg was broken in theTech/Georgia game last season by a chop block.The hit was helmet to helmet which is illegal on any level.
Topp Dogg
December 14th, 2012
3:00 pm
Saban will dole out punishment #igger please.
cajdawg
December 14th, 2012
3:01 pm
Should have been 15 yrd personal foul, but no suspension. I actually think the official deserves some sort of punishment for the no call given that he was only five feet away from the play.
Lost on the play is the terrible pass thrown by Murray. The receiver was wide a..s open and he threw a duck. 10 point turnaround.
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
3:01 pm
dawgfan
December 14th, 2012
2:12 pm
“Both Danielson and Lundquist commented on uga leading the conference and ncaa on number of penalties especially leading in personal fouls.”
=====================================
BS…………..UGa has more personal foul penalties than ANY team in the SEC over the last 5 years. You really need to go back and check your facts.
Ted M
December 14th, 2012
3:04 pm
Jeff – I’d like to see the video of the hits that did cause a suspension so I can compare them.
Can you help?
Topp Dogg
December 14th, 2012
3:07 pm
Biggest personal foul in NCAA is that GT has a so called team every year.
DP
December 14th, 2012
3:08 pm
Jeff, apparently you couldn’t find the YouTube link on the Georgia poke in Milliner’s eye that you minimized. Here you go, I’ll help you out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze9FrbEBp9k
Jeff, unlike the gutless Mark Bradley who filters everybody he doesn’t like and never engages in any substantive discussion, you are usually willing to defend what you write. So could you explain why your view on this Georgia eye gouge is so different than the one by Brandon Spikes against Georgia a couple of years ago?
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 14th, 2012
3:08 pm
It started with the shoulder sport and then the helmets banged! The entire article never mentioned the hit by the safety on AJ and that is a fracking joke at best. Why don’t you folks do what Tech did with Chick Graning and leave the SEC. That worked out very well for them. Just listen to the folks like Furman and Schultz. I imgaine your little sissy AD looked like the principal in Ferris Bullers Day Off when he walked out of Mike Slive’s office after going public with his comments after the game. When you have an eye poker and a cheap on the other QB on your plate you don’t go asking about one play from the other team. The again you’re inferiority complex U. Shultz should ask the AD why his HC can’t win a big game now that would be worth the cost of admission.
bugs
December 14th, 2012
3:10 pm
The bama rednecks condone cheap dangerous hits.Going after the QB on an interception
is bs.Saint Bear didn’t punish Darwin Hollt after he cheap shotted Chick Granning.This
kind of crap is par for the course over there.
Bama Alumnus
December 14th, 2012
3:10 pm
As a proud UA grad, I can say that hit did not reflect the discipline that a Saban player should exhibit. Dial should have been severely penalized at the time; the officials that missed the call should be fined now.
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
3:13 pm
GOD I am going to buy Stock in Kleenex for UGa’s bowl game and next season.
A good FORM tackle is HEAD-2-HEAD, Facemask-2-Facemask, Chest-2-Chest with arms coming up to wrap around the Offensive player. Helmets should ALWAYS hit in a good tackle. The D player should be lower than the O player hitting the O player dead in the chest driving up with the legs wrapping the arms and the crown of the helmet should be under the facemask driving into the O player.
bugs
December 14th, 2012
3:14 pm
Hey wet willie The Jackets destroyed Joe Willie’s knee.How did that work out for you?
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 14th, 2012
3:19 pm
I am sure the ref that didn’t throw the flag has been warned. Dail should have just pushed Murray down and that would have been better.
You folks that don’t even mention the hit on AJ (to the head with intent by your thug tree) and the eye poker are a joke.
1980. Enjoy Orlando and don’t dare ask Richtie why he can’t win the big games. Go ahead and pull for ND because we don’t need you. Heck we just might get beat but we will be back next year again.
1+2=3
December 14th, 2012
3:20 pm
First and foremost, anyone that says it wasn’t helmet to helmet will always argue for their team and complain when they are slighted. When you have the SEC commenting that it was an illegal hit, dammit it was an illegal hit. They are only saying that it did not reach the level of a suspension. FYI: I hope the SEC wins another title but something tells me this game is not going to be as easy as everyone is predicting.
Dacusville Bill
December 14th, 2012
3:20 pm
Shades of Chick Granning and Darwin Holt–Alabama has always played outside the box—
J'Dinkalage Morgoone
December 14th, 2012
3:22 pm
I wish again that the game could be remembered for what it was – the greatest SEC game of all time. It is ashame one team had to lose, but Georgia is losing more by continuing to bemoan the hit on Murray vs. praising how well they played in the game. There were a lot of hard hits in the game and it lived up to its billing.
JD
December 14th, 2012
3:23 pm
Come on people. When has an “offensive” player been penalized for a block other than a chop or clip. Dial was an offensive player at the time and Murray was a defensive player. Maybe they missed a penalty, but suspensions seem to be reserved for late hits or defenseless wide receiver hits by defensive backs.
Bo- I thought he led with his shoulder too, but others disagree. Still not a suspension.
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
3:25 pm
UGa MUTT Fans……………………..BEN JONES…………………….BEN JONES………………………….BEN JONES………………….BEN JONES………………………BEN JONES………………..stop crying and PUNISH your OWN………………………….
BS Patrol
December 14th, 2012
3:25 pm
The feminization of football strikes again! Let’s all squat and wet our pants on the count of three.
Samford grad
December 14th, 2012
3:26 pm
Samford Grad
December 14th, 2012
3:21 pm
The fact that Alabama has two oe three linemen holding every play and never gets flagged should have let everyone know that Dial would not get suspended. Bama gets the calls, and the non-calls more often than not. It is what it is, why is anyone surprised. Slive and Shaw have protected their beloved Tide once again! Go Irish!
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TIM BUCK
December 14th, 2012
3:28 pm
Any fool would rather get blind sided than have a thug gouge at his eyes! Gawgee one of the most undisciplined team in the country. SHOULDER FIRST THEN HELMET TO FACEMASK/HELMET…Not illegal………1980 drought………is still around.
Bad Dawg
December 14th, 2012
3:28 pm
The official should be suspended along with Quentin Dial. This is a whitewash. And for any Bama fans who think complaining about an illegal (and cheap) shot is akin to being a crybaby, I defy you to let YOUR QB take a hit like that and not strenuously object. Hypocrites…
TIM BUCK
December 14th, 2012
3:31 pm
I like Ga. football, but there fans are the most whining, crying, complaining. oissing, bad sports than ANY IVE EVER SEEN……I understand why cuz ya damn team can’t finish the drill……..after 1980 must really suck.
LHarding Dawg
December 14th, 2012
3:34 pm
Everybody in the free world knows that until the SEC offices are moved out of Birmingham, Alabama will continue to get the calls. Without the Birmingham refs, Georgia would be playing in Miami.
TIM BUCK
December 14th, 2012
3:34 pm
Brandon Spikes taught the Georgia players how to THUG UP AND EYE GOUGE…UNV OF GOUGING!!!!!!!!
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
3:34 pm
dWag fans Damon RED PANTIES are showing……………..AGAIN.
Jimmy Crack
December 14th, 2012
3:35 pm
Well, I would say next year for us to knock McCarron’s head off, but he probably wouldn’t notice it was missing.
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
3:37 pm
The dWags got out THUGGED and they are crying………..just like the AUBURN game in 2010………..UGa players run their mouths and TRY to be thugs and CRY when the MUTTS get out THUGGED………buy some KLEENEX…………and Tampons.
TIM BUCK
December 14th, 2012
3:38 pm
WENT BACK 3 TIMES AND WATCHED THE GAME AND I M O SAW 4 HOLDING THAT WASN’T CALLED ON BAMA THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AND 4 ON GA. IN MY BOOK THE EYE GOUGING TRUMPED THE LEGAL HIT EVERY TIME. Bama gave the Dawgs multiple chances to win the game
, but they choked like they do every year…1980 drought!
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
3:40 pm
Fat Pig BEN JONES…………..Fat Pig BEN JONES……………Fat Pig BEN JONES………………..Fat Pig BEN JONES………………..Fat Pig BEN JONES………………..Fat Pig BEN JONES………………..Fat Pig BEN JONES………………..Fat Pig BEN JONES………………..Fat Pig BEN JONES………………..Fat Pig BEN JONES………………..In the NFL HINDS WARD was voted the DIRTIEST PLAYER and in the top 5 his last 6 years in the league…………CRY MUTTS CRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TIM BUCK
December 14th, 2012
3:40 pm
IF GA. WINS A TITLE GAWGEE THE CRYING WILL CEASE.
TomDawg
December 14th, 2012
3:43 pm
The Alabama “so called” fans that say UGA fans need to stop wining are just what they are – TOTAL IDIOTS. Yes the eye gouge crap was stupid and should have been flagged, but for anyone to say that the hit on Murray was “just football”, please do us all a favor and get off the blogs. You would be better off trying to figure out which cousin you got pregnant at the last family reunion.
dan
December 14th, 2012
3:45 pm
Toga, you idiot. Yeah, it was clean hit. AFTER the play. I guess you were too stupid to get into Georgia, so you went to Alabama. Try learning the rules of football before making stupid comments.
Alphare
December 14th, 2012
3:45 pm
Watched a video a few days ago about a girl being encouraged by her parents to get even with another girl. The 2 girls had a hair fight on an open street under the watch of the revenging girl’s parents.
Yeah, don’t get chickened, get even.
ed f
December 14th, 2012
3:46 pm
Flags would have flown had it been the other way around!!!!
And all the Bama fans know IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUMBle bees
December 14th, 2012
3:48 pm
5150 its past your recess time.
BOOHOOBOOHOO
December 14th, 2012
3:49 pm
well, eye-gouge university lost YET ANOTHER battle to the Tide. Give up, losers, and enjoy your 2nd consecutive trip to the…..whatever irrelevant bowl it is you are going to. Think maybe this time you can avoid embarrassing the SEC and try winning versus the big10? RTR!!!!!!
BOOHOOBOOHOO
December 14th, 2012
3:50 pm
dan, the play was still going on. give up and just savor the ALMOST victory you had. RTR!!!!
Football Fan
December 14th, 2012
3:50 pm
Forget it. The ball was in play, Murray was legally in the game and was LEGAL to be blocked. Blocks on a QB after an inteception is not banned. And, IT WAS A LEGAL BLOCK. Period, End of story. Time for you trailer park folks to go out and wash your trucks and have a Bud.
DP
December 14th, 2012
3:52 pm
I put up a post with links to 2 of the hits that drew one game suspensions from the SEC in the last 2 years so people could compare them with Dial’s hit on Murray but for some reason my “comment is awaiting moderation”. I thought that only happened with Mark Bradley.
GIVE ME A BREAK
December 14th, 2012
3:53 pm
Why is this up to the SEC and not the NCAA. The SEC wants the trophy. Their children never do anything wrong. Idiots.
Ghost of Sinwich
December 14th, 2012
3:56 pm
If that would have been a UGA player, there is no doubt he would have been penalized.
What a crock.
TomDawg
December 14th, 2012
3:58 pm
I would not say that Murray was running towards the play. He was in position to defend himself if someone was coming at him or just off to the side. But Dial saw his opportunity for a cheap shot and took it. Did Dial really think that Murray was going to be a factor in stopping the return, of course not. There are just some players out there that just feel inadequate and have to resort to crap like that to feel better about themselves. And every team has them, including Georgia, so don’t go saying I am biased. BTW, I have read other blogs from other teams and guess what??? They bitch and moan about the same type of things we UGA fans do as well. The fans on these other blogs think their team should be in the hunt for NC every year as well, so please spare us about how UGA fans are the winiest fans around, its called “supporting your team”.
Ken
December 14th, 2012
3:59 pm
“But Dial’s second-quarter helmet-to-helmet hit on Murray — see video below –easily was the most flagrant foul in the game”
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Really Jeff? You can type that with a straight face? A block (whether it be illegal or not), is more flagrant than 1 guy poking another one in the eyes? Wow. Homerism at it’s best.
by any means necessary
December 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
The SEC operates with one thing in mind. Protect the teams that are in position to bring home the bacon.
SecFan
December 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
When you see it in slo-mo, you can tell it was not targeting with the helmet. I’m not aware of any rule that says that a defensive player cannot be hit. How many time have you seen a defender on a punt return get clocked when he doesn’t see a block coming? This was essentially the same thing. A tough, vicious block but under current rules not illegal.
missile play
December 14th, 2012
4:04 pm
Interesting that leaving your feet and leading with your helmet into another player’s helmet is no longer worthy of suspension. Nice.
I thought this was a textbook case of the type of play they’re trying to weed out of football – turning yourself into a missile.
Rick James
December 14th, 2012
4:05 pm
The Tech fan’s obssesion with UGA footbal is still overwhelming..Why wont they talk about Tech/Georgia football? Why do they talk about what other teams beat Georgia? Why do they like to plile on when it comes to issues like this? Do they have inferiority complexes when it comes Georgia? Why do they never say Georgia beat us this but we’ll get them next year? I would be more concerned with not losing an 8th straight bowl game..Just curious
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 14th, 2012
4:05 pm
Richtie says #2 eye poker was punished but he would tell us how many time the guy had to write on the board… I will not stick my finger in Dee Milliner’s eyes…again
Richtie says the hit on AJ to the head was just a guy playing hard…LOL
You have to earn respect instead of demanding it! 1980 will not get you much folks.
You have not heard the Bama AD Mal Moore nor Nick Saban say anything about none of this. The school with more arrest than any other school in the country does all the talking. Again don’t ask Richt why he chokes and pukes on the big stage 95% of the time for he will get into you no doubt.
NCDAWG
December 14th, 2012
4:06 pm
Proof positive that there is a double standard in the SEC… the Bama standard and the everybody else standard. Not sour grapes either… it is fact as this ruling proves. What does it take to get a Bama player suspended? Anything short of murder seems to be ok. Who knows maybe they’d find a way around that too.
Horrible non action by the SEC. Shame on Slive. And all you “win at any cost” Bammers can shove it… if you have even an ounce of decency you know it is true. Where are all the people who’d be calling a UGA player a “thug” for doing the same thing? Where are the decent Bama folks? I guess you all sold your souls to Bear and Saban.
Upstate Dawg
December 14th, 2012
4:06 pm
I told my wife while we were watching the game that if Bama lost, he would be suspended. If Bama won, he would not be as the SEC wouldn’t want to handicap one of its teams in the National Championship Game.
He should have been penalized and ejected in the Dome. It’s a shame that nothing is being done now when it was clearly a cheap shot.
Mike Dubose
December 14th, 2012
4:09 pm
TOGA,
You are a moron, that hit was as clean as your trailer and Alabama’s nasty campus, yes I have been there. NASTY!
BOOHOOBOOHOO
December 14th, 2012
4:09 pm
i’ll stop posting when the urge to troll leaves me….in the meantime, i just want to ONCE AGAIN remind everyone that until the whistle blows the play dead, every player on the field is responsble for remaining aware of what is going on around them. Murray threw a pick and then wandered towards the sideline to (a) go back to the wrong bench or (b) attempt to influence the direction of the ball carrier. for benefit of the doubt, let’s assume NEITHER is true and he is just a complete idiot; how does an opposing player – seeing the opportunity to deliver a monster hit to the most important person on the field – not try to lower the boom? and dial is a BIG fella, so when he is delivering a shoulder-level hit on anyone of normal size it is likely to be on the high side. i’ll probably make some more comments, but that’s how i feel. if it happened to AJ, i’m sure i would feel COMPLETELY different – nah, Bama’s going to the BCS, so this stuff is petty (other than knowing that dawg fans are whining louder than ever, that is). RTR!!!
jimboga
December 14th, 2012
4:10 pm
Too bad Alabama is not on Georgia’s schedule next year. It would be nice to level that sucker….over and over, if necessary to get his attention.
TomDawg
December 14th, 2012
4:11 pm
Eye poke? OK I just saw the video, yes he stuck his finger in the face mask, but by the Alabama guys reaction, the finger never touched his eye. His hand was swatted away. Most people that get poked in the eye will reach for the eye after it is poked, he never did. Stupid on the UGA guys part, hell yeah, but to say that it was as bad as the hit on Murray is laughable. Dial did not just block, he lunged his fat a$$ into the underside of Murray’s facemask.
NCDAWG
December 14th, 2012
4:11 pm
Wet Willie… the hit by Ogletree was not to the head you idiot… his shoulder hit his chest and his head bounced. Dial’s hit was directly to the jaw with his helmet. You Bammers have no objectivity at all… if a Bama player does it it is ok. No suspension…no problem… our guys are all angels. You are all football worshiping Bear/Saban idolators.
Mark
December 14th, 2012
4:13 pm
WWMD (What Would Mark Do?) Suspend him for the Sisters of the Poor game at the beginning of next season and let him play in the bowl, or you are penalizing all his teammates, too. And they didn’t do anything wrong. Right Mark?
Mike Dubose
December 14th, 2012
4:13 pm
GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ramguy68
December 14th, 2012
4:14 pm
I hope all you inbred Tide fans realize that Bama won’t get all the calls to go their way against ND.
TomDawg
December 14th, 2012
4:15 pm
Too bad RUDY won’t be playing, he could whoop Dial good.
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 14th, 2012
4:18 pm
This is just too funny. Mike Slive just might make both teams go back and play another qtr so you good folks keep trying. Without old #34 you folks are Ole Miss in red and black at best.
Buckeye
December 14th, 2012
4:19 pm
punk hit (SEC! SEC!)
bad non-call (SEC! SEC!
but dogs, dammit, quit crying.
you lost (another non-contribution to the SEC! SEC!)
NCDAWG
December 14th, 2012
4:20 pm
And all of you people that make a big deal about Murray’s size… that hit was a knockout punch and he got up and finished the game and showed no ill effects and no gun shyness either. Now that is tough. I don’t think there is one other QB in the conference that would have not been skittish after that hit. Score one for the guy everyone says is too short… what a bunch of idiots.
drew
December 14th, 2012
4:25 pm
Seems simple enough to me….let Shaw take a hit from Dial and see if he’s still okay with his decision : )
Referee
December 14th, 2012
4:27 pm
Steve Shaw is a complete idiot. If you are going to referee, then you need to understand the rules. A flagant foul is a flagant and should be called. There are SEVEN officials on the field. How can all of them miss the two flagant fouls? As supervisor of officials, I am truely disapointed that he does not have the balls to enforece the rules that his officials are charged to. If Dial breaks Murrey’s neck, then I hope every lawer in America goes to his family and files an assult suit aginst all seven of the officeals, Dial, the NCAA, the SEC, and Shaw for their lack of action. The Georgia player should be punished too. When will the officials ,NCAA, and SEC realize that these unnecessary acts of aggression need to be stopped. Stop the trash talk and then stop the flagant hits on defenseless players.
I guess it is more important to win the BCS championship again, then it is to prevent hurting players with unnecessay hits.
shep
December 14th, 2012
4:27 pm
What in the world was the ref looking at. I’m pretty sure there wasn’t anyone behind Murray.
Most people on this blog are ignorant morons, especially the Alabama supporters. Alabama is the most racist state in the country – bar none. Even Miss. and South Carolina. It is so dang pathetic. Great Republicans. Complete dolts. Ayn Rand, individualistic, selfish fools.
Buckeye
December 14th, 2012
4:28 pm
Long live the Brandon Spikes eye gouge too!
SEC! SEC!
shep
December 14th, 2012
4:30 pm
Toga: You are a neanderthal. Murray didn’t turn his head into the hit. Jesus Christ.
Chuck
December 14th, 2012
4:30 pm
I love how the Bama fans are whining about whining, but McCarron, not Murray, was the one who bleated to the refs for a flag.
I guess a girl can play QB for top-flight college football
DDD
FootballTopFan
December 14th, 2012
4:32 pm
Quarterbacks are football players !!!
Georgia quarterback Aaron Murray threw a interception.He then became a defensive player trying to stop an offensive player from scoring a touchdown. In the process of doing this he was blocked by the offensive player teammate.
It was a crushing hit but Quinton Dial was only doing his job. Murray appeared to duck as he was hit. Quinton Dial should not be punished or labeled a dirty player. It appeared to be a good block and no penalty flags were thrown.
Quarterbacks are football players !!!
ReaderRick
December 14th, 2012
4:33 pm
Why is it that some teams want to hit late with questionable hits, but when it is against them it is wrong?
Teams with a lot of penatlies are watched more than others. Stop the dirty plays (poking in eye) and things will go your way.
shep
December 14th, 2012
4:33 pm
Alabama is the luckiest football team today. LSU beat you. Texas A&M beat you. Georgia beat the crap out of you. Admit it you creeps.
ReaderRick
December 14th, 2012
4:36 pm
Why does CMR have a squeaky clean image, but his team is penalized so much? And that is only what they get caught for.
shep
December 14th, 2012
4:36 pm
The Shaw creep is just another Papa Joe. Almighty football wins again. Ought to be abolished. Send Dial to jail and the man who coaches the fool.
CC
December 14th, 2012
4:39 pm
Total BS. The SEC should have suspended Dial for at least 1 game. We all know Slive loves Bama and this proves it!
TNDAWG
December 14th, 2012
4:39 pm
All I know a present has been made for some head knocking football. You SEC refs will be held accountable.
I'm a Georgia fan. It's a license to be stupid.
December 14th, 2012
4:40 pm
Seriously, you dawg fans may want to go to the emergency room and be examined for dehydration. Two weeks of non-stop crying isn’t normal. Please STHU LOSERS!
BAMA
December 14th, 2012
4:40 pm
Shultz you never say anything good about Alabama so why say anything at all. Shep did you see the same games I saw. I am almost sure that Georgia gave up 400 plus yards rushing. I will give you Texas A&M.
Kraig Brown
December 14th, 2012
4:43 pm
Hey Jeff. Not implying that Steve would do this, but I worked with him years ago at BellSouth when he was an SEC ref doing games. He was not allowed to ever do Bama games because he lived in Birmingham and was an avid Bama fan. I will also say he was a man trusted by his peers…..
Jack Lambert
December 14th, 2012
4:43 pm
“I think we should put dresses on quarterbacks.”
DCW
December 14th, 2012
4:49 pm
Sheldon Dawson was simply helping Dee Millner apply some fresh eye black. Coach Richt would never allow such ungentlemanly conduct as eye gouging.
bill moore
December 14th, 2012
4:52 pm
flagrant hits ===richt should have had the play reviewed to show just how egregious it was. Bama fans dont care, win, win , win –typical SEC
Samford grad
December 14th, 2012
4:53 pm
Isnt steve shaw a bama grad?
Techster
December 14th, 2012
4:53 pm
Something else for dog fans to cry about. It looks like a late hit to me, but not a helmet penalty. Certainly not a suspension. But the dog fans will keep crying about it and using it as an excuse. Boo hoo hoo.
Maurice Clarett
December 14th, 2012
4:54 pm
“I got paid more in college than I do in the USFL”.
Techster
December 14th, 2012
4:54 pm
put dresses on the entire dog football team.
just sayin'
December 14th, 2012
4:55 pm
Hey, stuff happens. This stuff just happened to be caught on a digital recording device! Suspension…nah, I think not. Flag/penalty, yes.
Dirty Dawg
December 14th, 2012
4:55 pm
Look, the SEC, the NCAA, the BCS and especially ESPN and/ or whoever’s broadcasting the NC game, got what hey wanted…Alabama and Notre Dame. This embarrassing rationalization of a kids behavior – behavior that was clearly in violation of the ‘rules’ they had set and should have been, routinely enforced – and allowed to play in ‘that’ game instead of sitting his a$$ down. Face it, as has been said here, if Georgia were playing in the NC game they’d probably sit Ogeltree.
Samford grad
December 14th, 2012
4:55 pm
Bama holds every play, no wonder they run so well!
to toda wussy @12:21 post
December 14th, 2012
5:00 pm
Clean hit punk? Tell you what boy! Come to my job, we’ll both put on helmets, you stand looking one way and I’m gonna hit your defensless punk butt helmet to helmet, then we’ll call the ambulance
to come get you. Most Bama fans have class, but since you are obviously the direct product of your mother and father being brother and sister, we understand!!
Grantham for Attorney General
December 14th, 2012
5:06 pm
“The eye gouging thing is sumpin’ we work on every day in practice. But we still have a lot of room for improvement though, Millner only missed two plays. We have to do better”.
Iluvnutella
December 14th, 2012
5:08 pm
Kid should sit…..nuff said.
Hillbilly D
December 14th, 2012
5:09 pm
There sure are some bad asses on these anonymous blogs.
Ringleader
December 14th, 2012
5:11 pm
The Pac 12 is furninshing the refs for the Championship game, who do you think will get the breaks from the refs, Ala or the Irish…………?
DollarDawg43
December 14th, 2012
5:11 pm
Uh Techster?
“Something else for dog fans to cry about. It looks like a late hit to me, but not a helmet penalty. Certainly not a suspension. But the dog fans will keep crying about it and using it as an excuse. Boo hoo hoo.”
How retarded are you? A late hit?! How could it be a LATE HIT when the play was still alive? You techies don’t know much about football do you?
dumazzdwag....
December 14th, 2012
5:11 pm
And then how about the head first body slam tackles the dumazzdwags put on GT ?? Punk azz football deserves punk azz football…The dumazzdwags seem to dish it out but can’t take it…What a bunch of dumazz pussies dem dwags are……..
Alphare
December 14th, 2012
5:12 pm
Didn’t Grantham bump Franklin’s head without a helmet last year? What did SEC do about that incident?
kme
December 14th, 2012
5:23 pm
To the following morons: TOGA, GATOR MIKE, ARCHIE. You dudes are the slime and armpits of the earth. There was no “leaning of Aaron Murray’s head” to Dial. Dial committed the ultimate foul…head-butting…and they should have flagged the play…and also, suspended Dial. No question…and the consistencies of penalties and punishment has been absolutely atrocious.
I sincerely hope that ND routs the hell out of Alabama…by at least 14-21 points…or even more
I can only hope that Georgia beats the crap out of Nebraska…take their “loss” to Alabama…and the score reads 48-10 or even more.
Alabama can drop out of the top 10 for all I care.
And I hope Georgia rises to the top 5 by 01/13.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, DAWGS!
DOGGIE Reporters
December 14th, 2012
5:27 pm
How long will this go on– one day MB and then the next day JS. They just keep loading the sports page with their UGA “Whine Line” crap. Come on guys– get over. UGA will be back– it might be 30 years but they will be back. You guys are terrible. Moore and Bishop have you beat hands down.
@kme
December 14th, 2012
5:28 pm
Top 5? HA! Glad I hate the dawgs – stumping for those losers has to be a drag. RTR!!
PMC
December 14th, 2012
5:31 pm
Maybe they should just let Aaron Murray drop a concrete block off a building on him sometime out of nowhere, that would be fair.
Arm Tackles Galore
December 14th, 2012
5:33 pm
Eddie Lacy just broke another tackle
wayxbulldawg
December 14th, 2012
5:34 pm
bama tards are so ignorant it is hillarious. Must be all that inbreeding.
Paul in NH
December 14th, 2012
5:34 pm
DP
December 14th, 2012
3:52 pm
I put up a post with links to 2 of the hits that drew one game suspensions from the SEC in the last 2 years so people could compare them with Dial’s hit on Murray but for some reason my “comment is awaiting moderation”. I thought that only happened with Mark Bradley.
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I have had this happen to me. The issue is the AJC software – if you have more than 1 link in a post you get the dreaded “comment is awaiting moderation”. Try 2 separate posts with 1 link in each.
Right Call - Hit 'em again, harder, harder
December 14th, 2012
5:37 pm
Right call here! Maybe Mr. Murray will remember that we at Alabama play Big Boy Football – ROLL TIDE ROLL! Then again, maybe he won’t remember much at all after that lick.
Arm Tackles Galore
December 14th, 2012
5:39 pm
wayxbulldawg
December 14th, 2012
5:34 pm
“bama tards are so ignorant it is hillarious”
THIS HAS TO BE THE POST OF THE DAY!
GBurdell
December 14th, 2012
5:40 pm
he should have cut blocked him instead……
Arm Tackles Galore
December 14th, 2012
5:41 pm
Almost as funny as “your a looser”.
Man I love this blog!
Crybabies
December 14th, 2012
5:41 pm
Waaahhhhhhhh! This is football. Big time football. Don’t be such a wus Schultz and quite pandering to the whiny dwags.
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 14th, 2012
5:43 pm
Just spoke to a source close to the eye poker dawg player and he will have to miss a turn jumping in the pool in Orlando. Mark Richie is one tuff cookie when it comes to discipline no doubt. Just don’t ask him why he gets his azz handed to him everytime he plays someone other than Ole Miss.
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
5:44 pm
Jeff you got IT……………Post a Blog about UGa getting Biotch slapped and you will get hits……UGa players NEVER…….NEVER…..NEVER…………talk Smack and make DIRTY hits………….LMMFAO…………………Fat PIG BEN JONES………….UGa fans talk SMACK about Fat PIG BEN JONES………….Fat PIG BEN JONES………….Fat PIG BEN JONES………….Fat PIG BEN JONES………….Fat PIG BEN JONES………….Get a GRIP you MUTTS your dWags SUCK and are DIRTY too………..Do you MUTT fans wipe you butt first then blow your nose with the same TP or do you blow your nose then wipe your butt? CRY you NAD LICKER BUTT SNIFFERS.
1969 Graduate
December 14th, 2012
5:45 pm
I saw what seemed to me to be a fairly bad “no call,” but I don’t see how it could justify a suspension.
I hope Alabama beats the stuffing out of Notre Dame, and I hope we beat the stuffing out of Alabama when we next play them.
In the meantime, let’s get geared up for Nebraska.
Go, Dawgs!
shakazulugator
December 14th, 2012
5:45 pm
That’s crap Jeff…..the hit was entirely legal. It was also unnecessary and dirty, but legal.
Mark richt is a hypocrite
December 14th, 2012
5:47 pm
Listen carefully and you can hear the sound of bulldogs whining
Roger Goddell
December 14th, 2012
5:51 pm
Jeff is spot on. This isn’t about wins or losses or whether football is a tough sport. It’s about player safety. You don’t lay down the punishment, you will pay the piper in damage to the sport and serious head injuries down the road. I’ve already fined this guy 50k if he makes to the league. I’ve got stones. Slive and the SEC boys obviously don’t.
Roger Goddell
December 14th, 2012
5:51 pm
Jeff is spot on. This isn’t about wins or losses or whether football is a tough sport. It’s about player safety. You don’t lay down the punishment, you will pay the piper in damage to the sport and serious head injuries down the road. I’ve already fined this guy 50k if he makes to the league. I’ve got stones. Slive and the SEC boys obviously don’t.
Roger Goddell
December 14th, 2012
5:56 pm
Dang, how does this Submit Comment button work?
JSS
December 14th, 2012
6:06 pm
Every time I start to worry about horrible current state of AJC blogging, Ted Strikers, Hillbilly D, Paul in NH, or Sonny Clusters posts something and the world is right again!
Columbus
December 14th, 2012
6:19 pm
@toga. It was a clean hit get over it? Then why does everybody on the planet except Bama fans say A) it was DEFINITELY a penalty and B) it WAS a helmet-to-helmet hit? How bout you get blindsided across the head with a baseball bat and you just get over it? No hard feelings OK? No jail time for the perp OK? We will just all get over it and move on and its all good when you are 40 years old and a bigger crazier unstable douchebag than you are now OK? OK then.
Columbus
December 14th, 2012
6:24 pm
BTW no dogs are whining. Nothing to whine about. Its about safety and sending a messge of protecting FUTURE players only. That hit and pay is over and dont matter. However I did hear you got your eyes and heart set on Honey Boo Boo when shes of marrying age….good for you and good luck with that @5:47.
You will be whining and moaning after she marries your daddy instead
Cam Newton + Nick Fairley
December 14th, 2012
6:45 pm
Phew!!!! Does this mean that Dwag fans will stop talking about and blaming us?!
justice in the SEC
December 14th, 2012
6:50 pm
After watching this hit, I think that it is the most blatant of all the SEC hits. DJ Sweringer hit, to me, was not as bad because he is a DB and he has a right to the ball. If the WR jumps and he defenceless, and the DB jumps for the ball, that action is not a LAUNCH.
There is no consistancy in the SEC nor is there any justice. Justice Cunningham had a helmet to helmet and the Vandy player was not suspended. Fishy, I don’t know, but unjust, yes.
78Dawg
December 14th, 2012
6:55 pm
Money talks…..
Mark richt is a hypocrite
December 14th, 2012
7:09 pm
Hey Columbus, does your wife still gave her tooth?
Dewnsav
December 14th, 2012
7:12 pm
5150 uoad…you need a valium pal…what a hater…go dogs
gt69er
December 14th, 2012
7:17 pm
Legal block all the way. The only helmet to helmet contact was incidental when Murray’s head snapped forward after Dial’s shoulder & forearm blow to Murray’s chest. Some people will not be happy until they start playing flag football. Murray was lucky he did not have momentum of his own or he would have been hurt badly.
Jeff h
December 14th, 2012
7:21 pm
It certainly looks like selective enforcement by SEC on this play. I saw Swearinger hit from South Carolina and no worse than this hit and he was suspended a game. Looks like SEC taking care of the old guard and not hurting Bama in NC game.
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 14th, 2012
7:31 pm
The AD for UGA was out of line for taking this to the media and you can bet his azz got a earful from Mike (we are the King) Slive. The next Greg (king of the arrest) Mcgarity goes public with his batching will get him back in jail with DaSlive.
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
7:37 pm
Looks like PMS MURRAY got his ToTo dirty.
01HAWK
December 14th, 2012
7:38 pm
WAH, WAH, WAH……………………………….No wonder you never get to a BCS Championship. You are to busy crying over spilled milk.
1. Ogletree hit…………………………..No suspension
2. Dawson poke in the eye………..No suspension
3. Dial jit…………………………………No suspension
What are you crying about…………………………………..2 flagrant fouls and neither one of your players will be suspended……………………………Why should SABAN suspend DIAL.
Go and put on a PAMPER PLEASE !!!!!!!!!
01HAWK
December 14th, 2012
7:46 pm
Aaron Murray………………………………When you get intercepted, please keep your head on a swivel. It is a known fact that Defensive players hate QB’s.
Wait til you get to the NFL. The hits will be harder.
You guys complain about everything………………………You had the schedule all lined up for you and you blew it……………………………You just did not plan on meeting BAMA.
BAMA lost 9 starters on defense and most of the DAWG fans stated that BAMA would be down and LSWHO was going to win the WEST. You were so wrong……………….again.
Get on with your life.
BleedCrimson
December 14th, 2012
7:46 pm
Murray was running towards a live Int Return. The hit was legal and was lead by his right shoulder. The helmet contact was incidental to the hit. Dial’s side of his helmet hit Murray’s helmet after the initial hit with his shoulder. Georgia is soft under Richt. Stop Crying Schutz….
C'mon Man
December 14th, 2012
7:50 pm
Y’all folks need to stop crying. IT’S FOOTBALL. If you don’t want your QB to get hit after he made a mistake, then tell him to LAY DOWN or QUIT PLAYING!
aladawg
December 14th, 2012
7:54 pm
This message is for Yep, Toga, Gator Mike, Burt hurt, Plunge, cotton, Ga Tech, DB, Wet Willie and Bo Duke. You guys and all others just like you in Alabama are all Schattipated, and totally irrelevant to this planet. You all are breathing air that some intelligent person could be breathing.
aladawg
December 14th, 2012
7:55 pm
That’s Butt Hurt
Laughingatthedawgs
December 14th, 2012
8:46 pm
Here we go again…………
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Contractor
December 14th, 2012
8:47 pm
Schultz and every other negative commentor,
You’re telling me Mr. Personal Foul Alec Ogletree has never hit anyone (mainly quarterback) like this, or Bacarri Rambo, or Shawn Williams? If I recall, Alec Ogletree had a blatant helmet to helmet in the game that got called, so you can’t answer no to the question above.
Aaron Murray was well within five yards of the return man, and he turned from a defenseless quarterback into a defensive player once the ball was turned over. It was not a dirty hit, just a heads up hit on a quarterback. Aaron Murray knows he has to have his head on a swivel. I didn’t notice a green non-contact jersey on him. Be sour about the loss all you want, but this kind of hit did not require a suspension, Alabama would have still retained the ball, and it’s over, so get over it. Y’all sound like little cry babies still bickering and moaning over this two weeks later, and still trying to make it an issue.
Truth
December 14th, 2012
8:55 pm
Fear the “Eye Poke”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Truth
December 14th, 2012
8:59 pm
We’re hearing complaints from the most penalized team in the SEC. Yeah right!
from
December 14th, 2012
9:07 pm
junk yard dogs, GATA, to pussies, gotta love them ga fans
Special K
December 14th, 2012
9:16 pm
http://www.macon.com/2012/12/14/2285211/georgias-dawson-disciplined-by.html
How pathetic can you get. So I guess Dial just needs to say his helmet was in the way and Murray just ran into it with his helmet.
DAWG
December 14th, 2012
9:30 pm
This is for all of the red neck Alabama fans who are posting, stand in the middle of the field and out of nowhere someone knocks your head off and then tell the rest of the world this is all right. You are no better than the Auburn player who hit Murray from behind. I hope the Irish clean your clock, and don’t start crying if one of your players get hit like Murray.
DawgNole
December 14th, 2012
9:36 pm
GTBob
December 14th, 2012
1:53 pm
They are a true embarrasement to FBS football.
At least when Ogletree illegally body slammed one of our players we didn’t cry about it. Hmm, where was the SEC review on that play?
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Oh, plenty of you cried about it alright–just like you’re doing in this post.
tyler
December 14th, 2012
9:38 pm
funny- you know good and well that if Bama had been the one that was caught with the eye gouging attempt Jeff would have been up in arms that it wasn’t flagged and it would be labeled “clearly the worst” of the three. What Dial did was block a QB that had just thrown a pick- maybe it was excessive and should have been flagged but at least it was a football move- where exactly does a football move require someone to attempt to gouge out someone’s eyes? NEVER you dumba@#$@. enjoy the capitol one bowl
To bamer fans
December 14th, 2012
9:51 pm
It was a flag, but not called
Same way that zero in game penalties happen to be what bama benefited from.
And I have no team in this discussion
They had two dead ball fouls, none in game action. Uga had 7-8
Some Funny BS there….
Either way dawgs lost, but bright side is you dawg fans aren’t from Alabama:) seriously, that is a huge positive! I mean huge positive……
KingGator
December 14th, 2012
9:55 pm
Bama has always gotten breaks. From Bear Bryant’s sketchy recruiting, the SEC office based in Alabama, Saban stretching the truth about how he explains away recruiting players in an already full class, etc. I mean those are just a couple of examples that come to mind, but they’ve always gotten preferential treatment, and always will. If that guy played for any other SEC team he’d be benched. Better yet, Saban not benching the guy for the game against notre dame says it all. By Saban not benching the guy, he’s basically telling us he doesn’t know right from wrong. I can guarantee you Spurrier or Mushcamp would bench the guy in a heartbeat. Everybody knows it was a flagrant hit, and Saban’s character has manifested itself loud and clear
To bamer fans
December 14th, 2012
9:57 pm
Oh, and Athens vs Tuscaloosa……no contest. The classic city makes Tuscaloosa look like a porta John
But a very clean porta John:)
Caldwell banker
December 14th, 2012
9:59 pm
Saban also needs to sell millions in homes at the lake too, I think he is a part time builder now
01HAWK
December 14th, 2012
10:06 pm
Have fun with MICKEY. ………………………LOL
ronnie turner
December 14th, 2012
10:10 pm
dial is a low down dirty player mayber a north dame player knock some sense in him
Strange Murphy
December 14th, 2012
10:31 pm
It’s in the SEC charter that Bama gets a free pass on stuff like this. It’s somewhere in the back.
Champion Dawg
December 14th, 2012
10:32 pm
Jesus told His Followers, Christians will be Persecuted at the end of the age. Welcome to the end of the age. Satan walks free, Christians persecuted. Go Dawgs, Do it Jesus’ Way. That is the right choice. Cheaters get theirs from Yahweh soon.
Champion Dawg
December 14th, 2012
10:35 pm
Two years ago, it was Auburn Cheaters Cam Newton and Nick Fairley. Evil will win on the Earth because the antichrist rules here. For a very short time. Christians our Victory is coming and it is Final.
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
10:36 pm
Damn you Mutts cry like a little girl. You seem to FORGET all the Dirty Plays and Players UGa has had over the years……….BEN JONES or have you forgotten?
Do you need your diapers changed and your bottle and blanket cause in Nite Nite time.
Champion Dawg
December 14th, 2012
10:39 pm
I, a devout follower of My Lord and Savior Jesus The Christ, am so very proud My University of Georgia, and My Christian Head Football Coach Mark Richt are Righteous and follow The Bible rules and go by Earthly NCAA Rules also. Too bad, evil is ruling for their short time. Go Dawgs. Win Right.
Sports fan in Chelsea
December 14th, 2012
10:43 pm
Get freakin’ over it! You lost. Go play your bowl game.
Contractor
December 14th, 2012
10:47 pm
DAWG,
So Aaron Murray didn’t know he was in a football game? Based on your comment, it’s nothing like an Alabama fan sitting in the middle of the field and getting their head knocked off. Murray knew he was in a game, knew he threw an interception, and knew he was capable of getting hit. Heck, everyone around him was flying all over the place, so quit trying to baby the kid like he just got hit for no reason and like this is baseball or something where no one should expect getting knocked down. Go change your diaper, get your pacifier, and lay down for the night. You’re talking like a little kid that didn’t get his ba ba before bed.
Josh
December 14th, 2012
11:02 pm
Jeff,
Go back and look at the hits by the Ole Miss and South Carolina players.Who is more defenseless? A wide receiver attempting to catch the football and expecting to be hit? Or a QB jogging towards the play and then being completely blindsided with a helmet to helmet hit. I find it hard to believe the hit on Murray was not more dangerous than the other two hits that caused suspensions. It’s bias plan and simple.
5150 UOAD
December 14th, 2012
11:08 pm
JOSH your warm bottle of milk is ready. now go get your teddy bear and you woobie and we will put you in bed.
TomDawg
December 14th, 2012
11:19 pm
5150 UOAD…go hump a poisoned tree ,cause obviously your sister and mom are “busy” with daddy.
TomDawg
December 14th, 2012
11:23 pm
Oh wait…….I’m sorry, you probably don’t know who daddy is. Your Uncle maybe?
Special K
December 14th, 2012
11:26 pm
In the light of eternity, God really doesn’t care about a football game. Sorry folks.
Sick of everybody's crap
December 15th, 2012
12:02 am
Maybe a Notre Dame defender can put a similiar hit on the Bama QB in January – then we’ll see what the Bama faithful and St. Nick have to say about that.
In the meantime, to all the Tech / Auburn / Tenn / etc. fans commenting on the hit – we’ll start listening to your comments when you start fielding a D-1 football team. Til then, good luck in women’s b-ball or whatever it is you follow now.
Special K
December 15th, 2012
12:21 am
“In the meantime, to all the Tech / Auburn / Tenn / etc. fans commenting on the hit – we’ll start listening to your comments when you start fielding a D-1 football team. Til then, good luck in women’s b-ball or whatever it is you follow now”
And we’ll start listening when the pups win a national championship. Hey, there’s always next year.
Dawg Whisperer
December 15th, 2012
12:34 am
Jeff, I haven’t seen too many intelligent responses from the Bummer fans (par for the course). It’s most wah, wah… I suppose if Murray suffered a paralytic injury, maybe someone at the SEC would have noticed? It was helmet to helmet no matter how the Bummer fans try to spin it and a dangerous precedent when officials fail to call it and the SEC office fails to take action. They are on notice.
Thomas Brown
December 15th, 2012
12:57 am
No, you liar. You have asked a lot more direct questions than that short list you list a dozen direct questions you’ve asked of me without the 1st semblance of any direct question back answered from you. That is all you do as blog bully to run in here and state that you know you have earned the right to ask me a direct question, and do so again.
It is ALL you EVER HAVE DONE IN HERE, ever.
You asked me based upon your interpretations of what I said about our Defense when I have said things about this defense this year such as we have no pass defense and such as we have only 54 scholarship players remaining to play Alabama plus a transfer-in and such as we have 11 players on defense who might be selected in the up-coming NFL Draft after the season and yet we played well up until the Florida game against only Vanderbilt and such as Branden Smith has been demoted and such as Todd Grantham is a fraud and apparently at odds with Mark Richt in every facet of how he manages his business working for Mark Richt in-fact differences deep-rooted in their very basic lifestyle, and such as he loses his entire defense after this our best chance 2012 and pointed out that it takes years to learn his sophisticated defense and such as his defense has ALWAYS given up huge numbers of points against every single ranked team he has ever defended against, and a whole other large such stream of questions I have steadfastly maintained about this defense not the least of which is personnel placement such as Alec Ogletree whom I deem our best pass defender yet he removed from the secondary and inserted at our 1 deep position on the defense linebacker 2012. And, such as Rodney Garner has done a poor job recruiting and an even more poor job coaching his Defensive Line with his tough love approach where he has 12 years now under Mark Richt and before that under Jim Donnan berated his players on his DL in the press, and refused to play players on his DL much who will one day play every Sunday. I pointed out that there has been some so-called solidarity among the defensive players 2012 all coming back when so many could have gone to the NFL last year, when the only solidarity I saw all off-season was how many of them should have been kicked off the team, and how far behind they all were game ready when they all came back just before our biggest game of the year South Carolina. As it turned out, Florida was the biggest game of the year, and then Alabama was – but, certainly pre-season every single Georgia Bulldogs’ football fan of which you most assuredly are NOT (In fact, you think The SEC sucks.) figured that Florida was not going to have a great year. And, your BS that Georgia had a “good year” is so much BS # 6 in the nation is not a “good year.” A good year is like # 19. A good year is like 3 or 4 losses. 10 wins you brag about ? 27 teams made 10-win seasons last year. Since when is being # 27 with 4 losses great ? I hardly think 2011 at 10-4 same number of wins as 27 teams in fact put-up 2011, and 4 losses the most among the 27 teams who put-up 10-Win Season is NOT EVEN Top 25. We beat no team who made the AP Poll Top 25, even, in 2011 and you think that is great 10-Win season you stated today. Your knowledge of The SEC, Georgia, 10-Win Seasons, what I have said consistently about the Defense all 2012, your opinion of how you establish the ability to have earned the right to have asked me EVER ANY direct question is without a doubt, without merit.
So, you run in here and read me write about 11 defensive players and all you see is they are gone after the season and will be selected in the NFL Draft and assume that is me bragging on the defense, yet you see me point out that Aaron Murray had a great game against Florida, Vanderbilt and Alabama and will as well against Nebraska the 4 teams who might or might not make the AP Poll Top 25 for 2012, when in the Alabama game I make the point that had we not had # 79 rush defense all 2012 and will end the season having
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GIVEN UP MORE YARDS RUSH THAN WE GAINED OURSELVES
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And, you state to me that because there are in-fact a ton of defensive players fixing to be drafted by the NFL, that that is somehow unmentioned a statement of how great the defense is 2012.
No the defense is NOT GREAT.
The Defense has shot this season for us, our best chance.
Find someone else to stalk, as you have no purpose in life if not to come in here every 5 minutes and ask me a DIRECT QUESTION.
SecFan
December 15th, 2012
1:00 am
Funny, when a Georgia player was victimized by an eye-gouger a few years ago it was serious stuff and Dawg fans screamed for loss-of-playing-time punishment. Now when the thuggery was performed by a Georgia player, Schultz sees it as barely mentionable. And of course Richt has already ‘handled it’ without a loss of playing time. I suspect that if the eye that got deliberately poked belonged to Schultz he may have considered it every bit as flagrant as a roughing call.
Thomas Brown
December 15th, 2012
1:16 am
Dial should have been kicked out of the SEC Championship Game once the covered-up official on the play could not see the play live. He tried to get perspective to see it. The replay officials have to kick him out of the game. No penalty. And, the simple fact he is then kicked-out of the game as a bit player who doesn’t contribute diddle-e-squat to the Alabama team, means he cannot play against Notre Dame – the next game.
This is BAD for The SEC.
Aaron Murray saw Dial coming. He turned his head and tried to brace himself just before the helmet to his facemask.
DIRTY PLAY.
Yes, we have to protect the players of this game at all levels at all costs, Jeff.
I’ll will go out on a limb, since that is what everyone expects me to do and predict the
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DIAL RULE
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The replay booth on egregious plays such as the Dial DIRTY PLAY shall be removed from the game by the Replay Booth upon learning of such incident. NCAA Rule Change.
Win P
December 15th, 2012
6:38 am
Dial’s hit on Murray cannot be justified. Remove Murray and insert McCain and listen for Al’s howl.
michael clifford
December 15th, 2012
7:30 am
All you homers who are crying about the Dial hit on Murray watch the video closely. it was not a helmet to helmet. He clearly hits him with his right shoulder. google Warren Sapp hit on chad clifton which was way more vicious and ended up separating cliftons pelvis. during a running play the QB is just another player.
m a double t
December 15th, 2012
7:32 am
maybe UGA should have another BLACKOUT…. RMFT!!!!
UGADawg83
December 15th, 2012
8:00 am
Alabama gets all the calls and breaks in SEC football. The conference office is located in downtown Birmingham for crying out loud. The commissioner is surrounded by ‘Bama folks. In hoops Kentucky gets the same kind of preferential treatment. I just don’t know why the other conference members put up with it.
Thomas Brown
December 15th, 2012
8:04 am
Not helmet to helmet my buns. He came up from behind Aaron Murray, who at the last moment winced as he say Dail coming from his blindside, and instantly Dial put his helmet directly into the facemask of Aaron Murray and obliterated him.
SickandTired
December 15th, 2012
8:35 am
What I want to know is why wasn’t Aaron Murray flagged……he’s the one that initiated the helmet to helmet not Dial…..Murrays head was out of the way until he got lit up and it slammed into Dials helmet…..Murray is the culprit here not Dial…Another thing, why is there to this day only one angle of the hit? CBS must have had 20 cameras there and still the only one we have seen is from the telecast. I’d be interested to see an endzone high angle. I still believe he was leading with the shoulder. Call me an idiot but come on, Dawg fans are crying because they lost and what’s so amusing this hit came on the play that changed the game. Not because of the this hit but because of the horrible pass to a wide open receiver that Murray underthrew…..game changer and another big game loss for the Dawgs….chew on that for the next 30 years.
doc
December 15th, 2012
8:38 am
Dont get mad —-get even——-get Alabama on the UGA schedule asap and take care of business. I just hope UGA gets a QB that can run and pay attention to what he is doing on the field—–
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 15th, 2012
8:44 am
Got to hand it to you UGA folks you sure know how to whine! Enjoy Orlando but don’t make any wrong turns downtown if you know what I mean.
Whoa…..Eddie Lacey just road killed another Dawg.
Anybody seen or heard from Rambo…..he sure got a lot of highlights from the SECCG….just saying
mike punk slive
December 15th, 2012
8:58 am
For once I agree with you….
1) Need to move the SEC offices outside of Birmingham…..
2) Slive is not only cutting Nicks grass, but I sawy him on a ladder cleaning out his gutters….
3) Its all about the Benjamins….getting the SEC into the BCS and winning….
4) Nick should suspend him….but his ego prevents such a thing….
Buck FAma..
Simple answer
December 15th, 2012
9:00 am
It’s all about the $$$$$$
Sideline Dude
December 15th, 2012
9:26 am
Alabama SUX pure & simple. Always has, always will.
Dawg Tired
December 15th, 2012
9:55 am
Best to save one’s time and energy when trying to even suggest anyone associated with Alabama football could possibly do anything wrong. Most Alabama fans don’t even think the hit deserved a penalty! When an entire fan base is that far out of touch with reality, no amount of logic is meaningful.
JoeFann
December 15th, 2012
9:58 am
Dawg fan here, but don’t think suspension is warranted. Agree with Shaw, should have been penalized, who knows the difference, if any, in the outcome? Still a turnover. Intent to target the head is questionable at best. Dial turned his head away, though he leaned ahead with it. Murray shares some blame for not being aware, and turned his head into the hit. “Relatively” low-speed impact, unlike when DBs launch at WRs. Understand the concussion issues well, and wish for consistency, but good luck with consistency on live-action judgment calls.
What will be telling is to see if any action is taken by Richt against Dawson. I’m betting there will be internal punishment we won’t hear about, up to an including a loss of some playing time. Granted, he’s a part-time player and we may not notice, but I imagine Richt was as displeased about that as he was when it happened to his player vs. Florida. Be nice to see Saban discipline Dial directly, though we’ll never know about it, but don’t see him losing playing time. While maybe (?) less “serious” from a playing standpoint, I find Dawson’s act to be the most egregious and worthy of disciplinary action.
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 15th, 2012
9:59 am
When an entire fan base is that far out of touch with reality, no amount of logic is meaningful.
LOL…..you hit the nail on the head with the Georgieeeee fan base. The best college football team in America from March until August. 1980…it’s documented.
Dawg Tired
December 15th, 2012
10:13 am
Test for WW- Did the Dial hit deserve a penalty?
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 15th, 2012
10:29 am
YES IT DID….Dial should have just push Murray aside and that would have been the better choice. You take a hammer to use on a thumbtack.
Both the AD of UGA and Steve would have been better served to keep this within the SEC early instead of going to the media. If the only play in question was the Dial hit then it changes a little but with UGA have two players involved with the hit on AJ and the Eye poker it made no sense for the UGA AD to start running his mouth in the press.
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 15th, 2012
10:30 am
should read you Don’t take a hammer to use on a thumbtack.
wild one 13
December 15th, 2012
10:34 am
If there was a missed call it should have been on Eddie Lacy. The way he abused and ran over Rambo.
I would have loved to hear the late Munson call that play, ” he just smashed his face with a hobb nailed boot “!
Real Problem
December 15th, 2012
10:36 am
Dial made a football play pure and simple. Was there helmet to helmet…yes and a flag should have been thrown. Watch it in slow motion from a distance and anyone can see he lead with his right shoulder. He hardly was gloating over the hit….after Dial flattens our QB he looks up to see where his DB who made the INT is. Murray was hardly defenseless and was only 7 yards from Clinton-Dix when he got hammered. Yes, he got trucked and big, but I am more concerned WITH OUR EYE GOUGING.
SuperB
December 15th, 2012
10:40 am
All these macho and mental midget Alabama fans can kiss — you know what? It was flagrant and right in front of a ref.
Shaw’s explanation was weak and insulting– to anyone other than the idiots who are defending the hit by dial.
KZGuy
December 15th, 2012
10:41 am
Jeff you got this completely wrong. Anyone can see it was not a helmet to helmet hit. The lineman used his shoulder only and hit AM in the middle of his chest. Thats what happens when a moving 300lb guy hits a 170lb guy. Game officials got it right. SEC got it right.
Tom Flemming
December 15th, 2012
10:43 am
Hey Jeff, You sure are ignoring the eye gouge by Georgia. Ironic, since you sure did take so much offense to the act of eye-gouging when it was done to a UGA player a few years ago. Your words here speak to your hypocritcal reporting: http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/11/02/florida-suspends-spikes-for-only-one-half-of-game/
Flo-Ri-Duh
December 15th, 2012
10:45 am
It was a blatant cheap shot with the intent to injure the player. That’s what I saw. Either you enforce the rules or change the rules. Odds of Saban suspending his starting DE – minus ZERO.
Flo-Ri-Duh
December 15th, 2012
10:48 am
Saban’s got that restless look in his eyes and he is about to RABBIT. This will be his last BCS champ game at Bummer. Next likely venue will not be the NFL where he has already failed and fled from but to the deep deep pockets of the Teas Longhorns. Sabans’ wife said he doesn’t come home happy after a win anymore. Ye- this rabbits about to run.
Dawg Tired
December 15th, 2012
10:51 am
WW passes the test. KZ – sorry must wait one more year to join the Bluejays in Ms. Smith’s 3rd grade class. In the meantime, all you Redbirds can continue to think you are in the accelerated group.
wild one 13
December 15th, 2012
10:57 am
There goes Lacy for another 40 yards.
Dawg Tired
December 15th, 2012
11:03 am
You gotta give WW13 credit – He handles winning with a lot of class.
Andy
December 15th, 2012
11:14 am
@ What: Ole Boy :you seem to be a authority on incest! How long have you been banging your sisters? There could be a question about where Dial’s shot to Murray was a legal hit or not and even the one by Ogletree on McCarron, but the eye gouge mpt by Dawson on Millner was a dirty dirtydirtyp-lay no ifs or buts about it
wild one 13
December 15th, 2012
11:20 am
I did’nt win anything. I pull for the Crimson Tide and love to see them win.
What’s sad is that a over paid so called sports writer would get on his soap box and call for a young man to be disqualified for the biggest game of his life for a football play.
I admit that the hit was nasty but, he led with his shoulder and not his helment. A flag could have been thrown and I would not have had a problem with it. However, to cry for a disqualification of a player while you ignor your own eye gouger is hypocritical at best!
I can say this though, Murray earned alot of respect when he got up and continued to play. That kid is as tough as nails with alot of heart to boot. I hope he comes back to play his senior year.
DG
December 15th, 2012
11:24 am
I agree with Schultz, the SEC has to make a precedent. Dial Should be suspend for the NC game. However, I don’t think that Dawson should be suspended by the SEC for attempting to poke Milliner’s eyes. That should be handled in house by Richt. He should be suspend for the first half of the bowl game, though. Just like Spikes was held out for a 1/2 a couple of years ago for doing the same thing to Knowshon.
Not sure why they reviewed Ogletree’s hit. He was penalized on the play for a hit where he barely hit the QBs helmet.
Come on Bama fans, no way would you say that was a legal hit, or that the player shouldn’t be suspended for the next game if that same hit happened to McCarron.
wild one 13
December 15th, 2012
11:36 am
It’s a contact sport. Get over it.
It’s like my Dad used to say, ” Painful lessons are the one’s not soon forgotten”. Great players learn from their mistakes and I bet that Murray learned a lesson from his mental lapse during that post interception. It will serve him well next year and in the NFL. I’m just glad he was not injured and able to continue to play the game.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
11:40 am
Where were all the UGa fans screaming to suspend players when BEN JONES was doing his dirty plays. Why didn’t you guys scream to suspend all the UGa players that left the sideline during the Ben Jones Nick Fairley fight? That is an SEC rule. Any player leaving the bench and evtering the field of play during a fight will be suspended for 1 game minimum.
Crying when it is done to your players but Justifying when it is the dWags doing dirty plays.
You guys are a joke. Either it is wrong or it isn’t. Clean your own house and let Bama clean their own house.
Dawg Tired
December 15th, 2012
11:45 am
DG – Well, actually, I don’t think Dial should be suspended. Obviously, a penalty should have been called. Obviously some may consider it a cheap shot while other may not – the eye of the beholder thing. Referees miss calls all the time. Ogletree was penalized on a less violent hit, but it was, and should have been, a penalty. Dawson? After looking at the video, I would have suspended him, but perhaps CMR knows more about this than I do.
Dawg Tired
December 15th, 2012
11:50 am
5150 – Jones should have ejected from the game. Of course, Fairly should have already been ejected. While it is not a justification for what Jones did, subsequent events have verified that Fairly is an absolute bum while Jones seems to be a good kid who lost his temper improperly.
wild one 13
December 15th, 2012
11:54 am
I can agree with Dawg Tired on this post. Fairly made Ric Flair look like a choir boy.
Cry me a river
December 15th, 2012
11:57 am
You are definitely writing this from a Georgia homer point of view. The Ogletree helmet to helmet hit on McCarron was just as bad. No suspension. The hit had no bearing on the outcome of the game. Murray got up. He played. They came up short and this is all you have to whine about. It was a great game. Someone had to lose. That’s football. Now go back to writing articles telling Frank Wren how to run the Braves from your vast years of expertise!
Real Problem
December 15th, 2012
12:00 pm
Glad that a bunch of Dawg fans have come across as football fans instead of cry babies.
DG……you are clueless. Going to suspend a guy for a football hit and NOT FOR EYE GOUGING. Not sure who raised you.
Flo-Ri-Duh…..you get thrown in the clueless corner too. “Intent to injure the player” give me a break….first move Dial makes after flattening our QB is to look where his DB is…..not to gloat on hit.
Alex
December 15th, 2012
12:04 pm
Slive should be fired.
bamafaninga
December 15th, 2012
12:24 pm
There’s nothing to see here, move along!!!
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
12:32 pm
Dwag Tired……JONES also tried to injure the Miss St player by clipping him some 20 yards down the field. Jones was Targeting and Attempting to Injury with that clip for sure. It is not like Jones only Dirty Play was against Fairley in that one game.
bamafaninga
December 15th, 2012
12:34 pm
DG, go back and look at Texas AM and the the hit on Eddie Lacy, no flag, no crying!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4JGqMQufD4
DC FRom Conyers
December 15th, 2012
12:37 pm
Mr Shaw should have recused himself from this issue. Especially since he is a Graduate from The University of Alabama. The fact that the onfield officials did not throw a flag or discuss this play is very troubling. No more can it be said “The Most Important issue is the Safety of The Student Athlete” BS Just my thoughts dc
tom
December 15th, 2012
12:49 pm
How stupid can human beings be? Well, I guess we have our answer. I’ve given up watching the NFL–after 50 years of doing so–because I can’t stand the ignorance of people who defend unwarranted brutality instead of true gamesmanship. This kind of stupidity makes me want to vomit. I don’t care if the kid is from ‘bama or ND, suspend his ass–at the very least–and tell him if he ever does it again, he won’t play at any level.
Scott Brantley
December 15th, 2012
12:51 pm
The Tide Rolled! Dawgs did Fold! Irish will be knocked out Cold! Roll Tide Roll!
UGA Fan
December 15th, 2012
12:54 pm
I agree that this does make the SEC look bad to everybody else. Would the same decision have occurred should the NC game NOT be on the line?
dap01
December 15th, 2012
12:54 pm
Dial is a thug and Saban will show his character or lack of character with this decision.
Why hasn’t Saban already commented on Dial? Why hasn’t Saban already suspended Dial? The SEC Commissioner is a spineless joke.
Again, DIAL IS A THUG!
Fair n Balanced
December 15th, 2012
12:54 pm
A flag wouldn’t have affected field position? So they would have done exactly what? Just say, “naughty boy.” And put the ball where the Bama player was tackled? Huh?
Suspend em all I say! Gouging eyes, targeting a QB……suspend em all. This is not what sports is all about. But this guy Dial……he exceeded dirtiness. SEC missed this one. Shameful.
dap01
December 15th, 2012
12:55 pm
Thanks to Schultz for actually saying what needs to be said.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
1:03 pm
UGa fans loving the mutt thugs but hate every other teams thugs. Got to love the hypocrisy.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
1:06 pm
JEFF SCHULTZ I was trying to search back and I couldn’t find any of your articles on the subject. Can you provide a link to an article where you called for BEN JONES to be suspended after the clip on the MISS ST player. Could you also send a link to the article where you called for the UGa players that left the sidelines in the Ben Jones vs Nick Fairley fight to be suspended per SEC RULES.
UGA Fan
December 15th, 2012
1:10 pm
“5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
1:03 pm
UGa fans loving the mutt thugs but hate every other teams thugs. Got to love the hypocrisy.”
Please explain what you’re trying to say. We’ld love to hear it!
Special K
December 15th, 2012
1:13 pm
Based on these comments, it is easy to understand why no one takes the pup fans seriously.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
1:32 pm
UGa Fan………..what do you need explained? You love your Thug players like Ben Jones, Ogletree, Rambo, Baliey and so many over the years to name that you loved to Cheer when they made dirty plays but now it happens to the dwags and y’all want the rules enforced. Show me 1 single post where a UGa fan called for Ben Jones to be suspended for his plays.
A bitter pill for leghumpers...
December 15th, 2012
1:43 pm
Ogletree’s cheap shot was by far the most egregious of the three incidents. With as many of these cowardly sucker punches as Ogletree has landed on opponents in every one of the games he’s played in, he should be banned from college football forever.
And Murray should win an Oscar for his acting job, pretending to be injured.
UGA Fan
December 15th, 2012
1:45 pm
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Special K
December 15th, 2012
1:13 pm
Based on these comments, it is easy to understand why no one takes the pup fans seriously.”
Show me any other school that would NOT have reacted the same way had this occurred to them.
All Saints
December 15th, 2012
1:48 pm
Let’s all just calm down and have a few moments of silent prayer…
In tribute to our beloved martyred Saint Jan Kemp, let’s all bow our heads for a few moments of silent prayer. Thirty years ago, this courageous young lady risked everything to expose the corruption and academic fraud instigated by Vince Dooley, sleazy practices that continue to this day under douchebag coach Mark Richt. Gone but never forgotten, Saint Jan lives on in our hearts and minds as a guiding inspiration and as a symbol of resistance to the malevolent evil and corruption that dwell in Athens.
And now, let us all pray for Saint Jan…
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Thank you, you may now resume your normal activities.
Tide Rising
December 15th, 2012
2:08 pm
“But Dial’s second-quarter helmet-to-helmet hit on Murray — see video below –easily was the most flagrant foul in the game, made worse by the fact that no flag was thrown.”
Um. Nope. That’s just your opinion and the opinion of dawg fans. Bama fans have a different opinion and believe the Ogletree hit was more serious. As for the fact that the flag was not thrown that is irrelevant to your point.
“Murray had just had a pass intercepted by Alabama’s Ha’Sean Clinton-Dix at the Tide’s 18. During the return, Murray became a defensive player and Dial had the right to block him. But he came from out of view and collided with Murray helmet-to-helmet.”
The fact that Dial came from out of view has nothing to do with it. And as was pointed out Murray was a defensive player and was elgibile to be hit. End of story.
“CBS analyst Gary Danielson said, “Aaron Murray, you have to keep your head on a swivel, but that is just unnecessary roughness and a hit to the head …”
And that’s just one man’s opinion. It was no worse than Ogletree’s blow to McCarron’s head.
Last as for your opinon that Dial’s hit was the worst I have to respectfully disagree. Getting poked in the eye can result in a detached retina and loss of eyesight. As any optometrist. Its more serious than you think.
Tide Rising
December 15th, 2012
2:14 pm
“JONES also tried to injure the Miss St player by clipping him some 20 yards down the field. Jones was Targeting and Attempting to Injury with that clip for sure”
UOAD,
I remember that play. It was the single dirtiest play I had ever seen in college football. He chased him down the field and completely from behind dove straight into the back of the MSU player’s knees. I can’t believe it didn’t blow out one or both of the MSU player’s knees.
Dawg fans sure seem ultra hypocritcal when it comes to unsportsmanlike penalties. Lets keep in mind also that georgia usually leads the sec in unsportsmanlike penalties and I think a couple of years ago they led the entire nation or were 2nd or 3rd worst in unsportsmanlike penalties out of 119 teams. Its a dirty program when you’re constantly at or near the top in unsportsmanlike penalties. Plain and simple.
DG
December 15th, 2012
2:21 pm
Real Problem – I don’t think you comprehended what I was trying to say because you completely missed the point. I was talking about the precedent of helmet to helmet hits in the SEC. I also never said I wouldn’t suspend Dawson. I said that the SEC shouldn’t because they didn’t do it to Spikes – again back to precedent.
bamafaninga – I couldn’t agree with you more. I wouldn’t expect to see a Bama crying about hit on Lacy in a Texas A&M game on a Jeff Schultz blog. GREAT point!
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 15th, 2012
2:26 pm
What we have learned for this..
1-Murray is a tuff son of gun to get up and collect himself after that hit and I have him on the Wet Willie all tuff team for 2012.
2-The AD from UGA speaks out of turn. Mark ask Greg what Mike Slive told him about his complaint!
3-UGA was so close to the NC game and that is more the problem than Mrurray getting the shat knocked out of him.
4-Lot of Bama haters in the house.
5-Nick Saban is not on many Christmas list of you good folks.
little info….last year the AJC folks had a grand old time blasting Nick after the two recruits were asked to greyshirt…remember. Old Nick took a beating. Rumor has it another Bama Commit from around your parts will not be and EE due to AJ returning thus that scholly is till taken. You might get a chance to blast old Nick again soon. Mark is having a great year with his 40 commits but still below Nick with his 19 and soon to be 18. The big TE Josh Mcneil having a little trouble with his grades and will not make the cut it appears.
Roll Tide and have a good weekend. Hell it’s just football.
another note Jack Del Rio’s son Luke has committed to Bama and will walkon….LOL Being the King is tuff but we will take it for now. Nothing last forever.
saban never sleeps
December 15th, 2012
2:54 pm
I now bestow the National Championship of “WHINING” to the Leg Humper nation. Hey, that is 2 NCs for you as you are the periennial Offseason National Champs.
The Facts are:
1 You lost the game.
2. You are not SEC Champs and Bama is.
3. You are going to the Capitol One Bowl. Try not to choke this year to a Big 10 team.
4. Bama is just better.
Remember that football is not a contact sport but a Collision sport. Don’t like it then go play Ga Tech in ping pong.
nobody
December 15th, 2012
2:57 pm
Just saw Pollacks take on all of this on ESPN. Is it just me, or does he seem like he always goes out of his way to not take UGAs side just so he avoids being a homer? I havent heard him say 1 good thing about UGA since he has been on ESPN
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
3:24 pm
@nobody………..if he is a homer he will not have a job long, but he can back UGa if he thinks they are being wronged. I think you are just not happy POLLACK isn’t drunk on the UGa Kool-Aid. He played D and his best friend, roommate and business partner is David Greene so I think he can be HONEST about what he thinks about the hit. Pollack has said many good things about UGa during his broadcasting career but you only hear and remember the things you don’t agree with. Everybody does that so I’m not saying you are wrong just jaded on this issue.
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 15th, 2012
3:29 pm
pull up your panties sport and give David a break. ESPN isn’t in the business to promote UGA. The OSU folks ran Herbie out because he wouldn’t kiss their azz 24/7/365. Mark May is a Pitt grad and doesn’t push the panthers either. Reece is a Bama dude and you would never know that and I didn’t until midway thru this year. David handles himself well and shows class and that is what you should be most proud of for UGA. The scoreboard does most of the talking anyway. Agreed?
OMS
December 15th, 2012
3:29 pm
What will it finally take for the SEC to demonstrate concern for player safety? The death of a student athlete on the field? Perhaps, unless the conference might gain some competitive advantage from not penalizing the offender.
Hollis G.
December 15th, 2012
3:33 pm
Same old crap from the SEC. The officials always protect the whiners from Ala and Fla. Two freaking penalties called on the crybabies when you could see them holding all night long. Give me a break. You Bama pukes won’t get that advantage in the championship game because Mike Slive’s boys won’t be there to help your sorry asses.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
3:41 pm
Valdosta State is looking like they will be only CHAMPIONS from the state this year. I am holding out hope on the Falcons but that is a long shot at best.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
3:45 pm
somebody posted this on the other blog. this is a good article for sure.
Johnny Vaught
December 15th, 2012
3:12 pm
It’s really sad that you Georgia homers couldn’t have done an analysis similar to what the Alabama papers did and put some pressure on Slive’s sorry ass .. http://mobile.al.com/advbirm/db_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=NLPyN69D&full=true#display
DawgNole
December 15th, 2012
4:04 pm
December 15th, 2012
11:40 am
You guys are a joke. Either it is wrong or it isn’t. Clean your own house and let Bama clean their own house.
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And when do you clean YOUR house, Tech? It’s hardly what you’d call pristeen.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
4:09 pm
DawgNole how many personal fouls or players suspended for dirty hit has Tech had? You are a fan of 2 extremely dirty programs in college football history.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
4:15 pm
Looks like VALDOSTA STATE is the ONLY one of 5 teams in the state that will actually bring a Championship Trophy home.
I’m hoping the Falcons can win the NFC and Super Bowl but both are long shots I fear.
Ga Southern
Georgia
Georgia Tech
all came up short this year. Go FALCONS & Congrats Valdosta State Blazers
DawgNole
December 15th, 2012
4:31 pm
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
4:09 pm
DawgNole how many personal fouls or players suspended for dirty hit has Tech had? You are a fan of 2 extremely dirty programs in college football history.
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I have no idea how many, although it’s pretty well known that Tech has a “questionable” blocking scheme–whether cuts or chops. The point is that you’re on here preaching to UGA and Bama that they need to “clean up” their houses when it’s your school that’s on probation and had its conf championship lifted. Take care of your own first, before you stick your nose in the business of others.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
4:37 pm
I have no idea how many, although it’s pretty well known that Tech has a “questionable” blocking scheme–whether cuts or chops.
BS go look up how many flags were thrown on Tech for illegal chop blocks?
You dumb Parrot. Think for yourself. The NFL uses Cut Blocks every football league allows Cut Blocks.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
4:43 pm
NoleDwag read again I said you mutts STFU and worry about your team and Bama will worry about their team. Stop CRYING about a hit when your players do it all the time.
BS Patrol
December 15th, 2012
4:49 pm
What’s really nauseating is the doggies will claim they’re the real NCs after Bama beats ND. It’s just that the clock ran out too soon. Haw Haw. We’ll be hearing about it for the next 32 years.
DawgNole
December 15th, 2012
4:51 pm
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
4:43 pm
NoleDwag read again I said you mutts STFU and worry about your team and Bama will worry about their team. Stop CRYING about a hit when your players do it all the time.
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No need to resort to lying, liar. Look at your post below. I don’t need to read it again. And when is it that you’re going to clean house at that mess you’ve got over there? Just hard to believe you’re on here poking at others given the way your losers are performing.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
11:40 am
Either it is wrong or it isn’t. Clean your own house and let Bama clean their own house.
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
5:00 pm
exactly NoleDwag…..your players had dirty hits. Bama players had dirty hits. So STFU crying about the other guys crap and suspend your players for what was a dirty hit and don’t worry about what bama does to its players. Richt is such the good Christian Moral man then he should suspend the UGa players for doing what you want Bama players suspended for.
Wet Willie...keep on smiling
December 15th, 2012
5:04 pm
Did any of you play HS football?
Did any of you play college football?
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
5:25 pm
WW…..High School and in College we had the Only Full Contact Intramural football league in the US at the time. North Georgia College the companies played each other it was a chance to take it out on some people with more rank. LOL it could get dirty for sure.
Dawg Tired
December 15th, 2012
5:25 pm
WW – Yea, I did. That may be why I’m not bent completely out of shape by the Dial hit. In fact, while I said it should have been a penalty, I was referring to the current rules. 20 – 30 years ago it would not have even been considered worthy of anything except oohs and ahhs from the fans. The changes in the rules are necessary because of the tremendous increases in the size, strength and speed of the modern day player. Back in the day, the Dial-Murray hit would have been a 200 to 220 pound lineman hitting 180 pound quarterback. Don’t get me wrong, being blindsided and getting up trying to see through the ear hole of your helmet is not fun, but the long-term effects were no doubt somewhat less. Plus, today, we know the devastating brain injuries caused by such hits at the speed of today’s game. Back in the day, we had no idea how dangerous all this helmet to helmet stuff actually is.
Pitbull
December 15th, 2012
6:11 pm
Alabama has always run the SEC rather than vice versa.
Its the same as how Texas ran the Southwest Conference – right into the ground.
The answer is simple. The Presidents and AD’s of the 13 other SEC schools need to vote the current SEC administrators out of their jobs and hire fresh blood.
If Alabama doesn’t like it then they can join the ACC or the Big 12 or whomever.
Alabama needs to quit receiving preferential treatment and if firing the SEC officials and replacing them is the answer then the other 13 schools need to grow some and do it. And Alabama can go their own way.
dawgnation
December 15th, 2012
6:33 pm
Hey toga sure this is not the NFL but if it had been you legal hit would have been a 15 yeard and at least a 75k fine think I am nuts askthe Steelers harrison, you have issues if a ND player hit Mccarron like that you will be the first one to jump up and cry
dawgnation
December 15th, 2012
6:37 pm
Hey BS you listen to too much bad music Dawgs did not say they were the real NC, you have mental issues or just want your big mouth to be heard, Ga fans and players blame themselves for not wnining, no time management, but I will say this. If bama shows up and stinks up the joint like they did against Texas A&M just close your mouth and walk away
dawgnation
December 15th, 2012
6:41 pm
As fro Pollack being on the dawgs side there is no one more bias than Lou Holtz, between ND and South carolina that all he does is bragg on them
Whiznot
December 15th, 2012
8:48 pm
The SEC needs to suspend Mark Richt for not spiking the ball and for being the most boring coach on the planet.
Thomas Brown
December 15th, 2012
8:53 pm
David Pollack is most assuredly NOT on The Georgia Bulldogs’ side, nor Aaron Murray’s side. Repeatedly, he makes is poignantly painfully clear that it’s football and was hit fairly after the pick.
bubba4dawgs
December 15th, 2012
10:22 pm
Shaw is bulls**t!! It was a flagrant foul! Dial was simply trying to take Murray’s head off and didn’t care whether he got the penalty or not! He wanted to win at any cost! Reminds me of the time way back in the 50’s when Bear Bryant was coaching and Alabama was playing Georgia Tech in Atlanta. Chick Granning was waiting on a punt to return when a short bas***d named Darwin Holt threy his elbow under Granning’s chin with full force as he came completely off the ground with his leverage. Needless to say, it knocked Granning out cold, knocking out several teeth and breaking his jaw. He was in the hospital several days. Was Hold reprimanded? Absolutely not and Bear Bryant didn’t so much as apologize.
Moral of this story: If it’s Alabama, it’s OK Is this typical? Apparently, yes! Good job, Shaw! Keep up the good work! Message to UGA, when you hit, make it count!!
Thomas Brown
December 16th, 2012
5:47 am
bubba4dawgs,
Darwin Holt Chick Graning had nothing to do with Georgia Tech leaving SEC. I know. Georgia Tech had to play Alabama and Georgia, back-to-back end of seasons, and Georgia Tech would end up with no one caring for Georgia Tech, and there were not many bowl games, back then. It was a bad decision, as it turns out for Georgia Tech, but the reason to get out of SEC then, as now, would be the same : They could not compete.
Darwin Holt Chick Graning and flack of SEC Revenue-Sharing, which Georgia Tech would love to be getting a piece of nowadays, neither had any affect on Georgia Tech leaving The SEC.
Georgia Tech could not compete.
Georgia Tech losing 10 to nothing. Georgia Tech having to punt at the end of the game, or it would be 17 to nothing. The Georgia Tech punt was shanked. Darwin Holt was the best player on Bear Bryant’s defense, and he had the job of blocking Chick Graning. The play was definitely Live. Darwin Holt blocked Chick Graning. Darwin Holt was tough. While the fair catch signal was being made by Alabama’s Richardson, Darwin Holt saw Chick Graning running down the field, and as it turned out broke his jaw, cheekbone, and knocked out 3 teeth. It was not after the fair catch.
The BS in the AJ-C : There were 2. Jesse Outlar. Furman Bisher. There was the Constitution at 7 am in the morning and the Journal at 4 pm. The Saturday Evening Post published the Furman Bisher story. Bear Bryant sued them and won a third of a million dollars. No one seems to remember any of this now, and those who say they do, write about it with a slant. There are still those who remember the BS stories as is Gospel, when again, Bear Bryant won a third of a million dollars and put it to rest.
Darwin Holt Chick Graning can never be put to rest when stories of how important the play was to Georgia Tech’s entire never to recover history is at stake.
Chick Graning had a facemask of a single piece of plastic across his entire face, like he was a tough guy which Darwin Holt most assuredly was.
It was a penalty.
Darwin Holt was crucified by the AJ-C. Again. I know. I read every article at the time, each morning, every single day from 1957 to today. I believe I know what was said in the AJ-C.
Bear Bryant did not teach dirty tactics, and neither does Nick Saban.
Both incidents are PENALTIES.
The fact that neither was, is what makes these 2 incidents the same
bubba4dawgs.
Darwin Holt Chick Graning had nothing to do with Georgia Tech leaving The SEC, and Bobby Dodd and Bear Bryant were the closest of friends before and after Darwin Holt Chick Graning.
The game was at Legion Field. Alabama would win its 1st Bear Bryant National Championship.
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Georgia Tech football program started Waning 1957
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Bobby Dodd had long-since seen the writing on the wall.
When Georgia hired Vince Dooley, that was it for Bobby Dodd. Bobby Dodd never beat, and always lost to Vince Dooley, too.
The only year Bobby Dodd beat Bear Bryant was the next season in Atlanta. I was there.
Bobby Dodd never did ever beat Vince Dooley.
That’s why he wanted Georgia Tech out of The SEC, and no other reason – especially nothing to do with Darwin Holt Chick Graning, or Revenue-Sharing.
Bobby Dodd, his football program waning starting 1957, lost 6 of 7 games against Bear Bryant, his closest friend, and never did beat Vince Dooley, losing every time.
That’s why Georgia Tech wanted out of The SEC, and no other reason. I know. I was there.
People try to write about it now, and say this or that; but, they were not there then to know what the story was.
In fact, many people point to that Darwin Holt Chick Graning game at Legion Field in Birmingham 1961 as the point in which Georgia Tech football never recovered from and never will; but, it had started 1957, not 1961 when Georgia Tech’s football program went on the wane.
I watched those games. That was not dirty football. Yes, they were both penalties which neither were called. Both, under today’s understandings of especially collegiate football, require the players to be removed from that game as soon as officials on the field or in the booth, witness it. And, both then cannot play in the next game for Alabama. Darwin Holt cannot play against Auburn 1961 before Alabama beats Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl to win the NC 1961. Quinton Dial cannot play against Notre Dame before Alabama beats Notre Dame in Miami hell hole Orange Bowl BCS Title Game.
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“Bear Bryant taught hard tough intimidating football
but he didn’t teach his players to be dirty.
There’s no doubt in my mind about that.”
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Quote by Chick Graning, Georgia Tech himself.
The next year, 1962 at Grant Field, I was there, too. After the game, the Georgia Tech fans threw liquor bottles on the field. 1963 was back again at Legion Field. 1964, Vince Dooley’s 1st season at UGA, the game was back at Grant Field, and Bear Bryant came on the field wearing a football helmet to protect himself from flying liquor bottles from the notoriously poor sportsmanship forever by Georgia Tech fans. Again, I know. I was there.
In this game at Grant Field 1964, Bear Bryant in a football helmet to protect himself, at the end of the game, a Georgia Tech football player saw and Alabama football player take his helmet off. The Georgia Tech player walked right up to the Alabama player and smashed his elbow into the Alabama’s defenseless, helmetless, face. And, no penalty was called on that, either. In fact, no one even talks about it.
Darwin Holt had already graduated from the University of Alabama and was in his Master’s program at the time he blocked Chick Graning. Chick Graning went on to try to play NFL football and then Canadian football and tried to coach football. Chick never did live in Atlanta after the incident, not wanting to and moved to Mississippi where he sold insurance.
Bear Bryant said repeatedly every time he was asked about it, that the official standing right there less than 5 yards away, looking directly at the play, should have thrown the flag because Darwin Holt’s elbow most certainly did hit Chick Graning in the face when Chick Graning kind of bent his knees as the blow was coming. If Chick Graning had not of bent his knees just as the hit was made, it is clear the hit would have been to Chick Graning’s chest. Chick Graning bent down just as the block was being made. It is a penalty.
It is a penalty that Quinton Dial did to Aaron Murray too, and should have been dished out by the Replay Official. Why have replay Officials if we cannot protect the players such as Chick Graning and Aaron Murray ?
The Saturday Evening Post went out of business over the incident trying to make it out for what it’s not.
I knew Furman Bisher for many years. He passed earlier this year. This incident was his darkest hour. His interviews he conducted for this article for the Saturday Evening Post were rejected out-of-hand. Both Wally Butts and Bear Bryant were both victorious in their lawsuits and lived comfortably because the won the lawsuit.
The AJ-C should never have tried to make Darwin Holt Chick Graning what it was not.
“It was scheduling and the fact we had trouble beating Alabama and Georgia back to back at the end of the seasons and be passed over for lucrative bowl games,” Bobby Dodd said. “So we had to do something. It might not have been the wisest decision in the world, but we decided we should become and independent and leave the SEC. It wasn’t bad blood that lead to that.”
Bobby Dodd had asked to get out of the Alabama game for many years prior to 1961. I know. I was here. Georgia Tech had not, and still has not done anything starting 1957. And, 1961 was 4 more years of losing to Alabama every single year.
Bobby Dodd, of course, also was winning only 3 of 10 games against The Georgia Bulldogs from 1957 through the end of Bobby Dodd just quitting, not only The SEC, but coaching football. Bobby Dodd conceded when he quit that he could not beat Alabama or Georgia.
Starting 1957, Bobby Dodd could beat The Georgia Bulldogs only 3 times in 10 games.
Georgia Tech played Alabama and Georgia to end those seasons. Once those games were over, the once promising Georgia Tech was not appealing to any of the bowls, and the lucrative bowls went to the winning teams, not to the teams who at the end of the season against their opponents, Lost.
This is why Georgia Tech quit The SEC. This is why Bobby Dodd quit football. Bobby Dodd said so, himself.
Thomas Brown
December 16th, 2012
8:27 am
Has anyone seen Quinton Dial apologize ?
Darwin Holt Chick Graning had nothing to do with Georgia Tech leaving The SEC, as Georgia Tech fans still try to say about the incident in 1961.
You said Darwin Holt Chick Graning was a dirty play. It was a penalty which Bear Bryant said about the play every single time he was asked about it his whole entire life, starting 1961.
Alabama most assuredly did apologize.
Darwin Holt was sent to the Georgia Tech campus as reprimand, to be escorted around the campus by none other than Chick Graning.
Your depiction of the incident is based on stories by Jesse Outlar and Furman Bisher, who called the play a dirty play and who tried to make it stick that Alabama was dirty, which is exactly your point about it 51 years’ later.
Were you even alive 51 years ago ?
I know everything about Darwin Holt Chick Graning. And, everything that has transpired since, about it.
Chick Graning’s concussion lasted a month in the hospital.
Chick Graning was unable to remember anything about the whole entire game for an entire week
The game between eventual national champions Alabama and long-since on the wane starting 1957 Georgia Tech was on Saturday November 18, 1961. It was nearly Christmas before Chick Graning could even get out of the hospital.
I read every story at the time on the AJ-C. Saw all the photos of him in the hospital.
I saw the sensationalism of the entire incident.
I saw the game at Grant Field the following year.
And, the game 2 years after that where Georgia Tech’s player used his elbow into the Alabama player’s face after the Alabama player took off his helmet at the end of the game. I was there. I saw it.
Dirty ?
You want Dirty ? That was dirty.
Now, I thought Quinton Dial’s hit on Aaron Murray was dirty. I was there.
I thought the Georgia Tech player’s hit on the Alabama player at Grant Field when the Alabama player had removed his helmet was dirty.
This is 2012. We know the importance of concussions on football players, no matter how tough the player is. Quinton Dial still December 16, should not get away with what he did at the game I was at.
Darwin Holt ? That was not a dirty play and Bear Bryant did not teach dirty plays. Darwin Holt Chick Graning, like Quinton Dial Aaron Murray, were plays which were not called penalties and should’ve been.
I have read Darwin Holt apologize for 51 years. I’m over that incident and all the hype posters here at the AJ-C have said about Darwin Holt Chick Graning, which is why I do know everything about Darwin Holt Chick Graning.
Quinton Dial knew full well that Aaron Murray was looking the other way when he went full-tilt into him and that he is twice Murray’s size, leading with his shoulder and helmet into Aaron Murray’s helmet in 2012 when we know the results of these hits.
Maybe The SEC office does not; but the rest of us surely do long before now.
In 2012, that’s a dirty play.
51 years’ ago, in 1961, that was a much smaller man Darwin Holt blocking a much bigger man Chick Graning, a man who would go on to the NFL in one Chick Graning. And, Darwin Holt cold-cocked Chick Graning with an elbow obviously not intended to his helmet, which ended up there when the bigger future NFL player, Chick Graning, bent his knees while the play was still live and long before the whistle and before the punt by Georgia Tech was caught by Richardson.
Quinton Dial and Darwin Holt should both have been penalized. Quinton Dial by the Replay Booth, and Darwin Holt by the official looking directly at the play from 5 yards away according to Bear Bryant after the game and everyday he was asked about it after that.
Jeff Schultz is right.
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DARWIN HOLT CHICK GRANING
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doesn’t need to be sensationalized again 51 years later for what it was not. Much of the blame for Darwin Holt Chick Graning is Chick Graning and his idea that he was a tough guy wearing a single piece of plastic on his facemask when he had previously been hit repeatedly in the nose from it. 1961 not everyone had a single piece of protective plastic across his face. And, he’s the 1 who bent down as the hit was applied to what would have been his chest. These are the facts.
Aaron Murray was far better protected, but damn, that was an intentional vicious hit of a guy Quinton Dial knew completely was looking the other way entirely.
Was Chick Graning looking the other way ? No. He was looking right at Darwin Holt of Alabama and bent down with his 1-bar plastic facemask as the hit was applied.
For which Darwin Holt has apologized for 51 years and was reprimanded sent to Georgia Tech’s campus to be escorted around the Georgia Tech campus by Chick Graning right afterwards.
Why is it we write articles about Quinton Dial and don’t ask Quinton Dial if he apologizes ? Because we don’t want to ?
Academy Award Nominating Committee
December 16th, 2012
8:58 am
Murray has just been nominated for an Oscar for his marvelous job of acting like he was injured.
So he does have some talent, after all.
Jean the Bean
December 16th, 2012
9:06 am
It’s really sad that UGA alumni and fans have only their football team to take pride in. It’s even sadder that this pride depends on the performance of illiterate dummies who don’t even come close to meeting minimum academic requirements. 94% of UGA football players are what UGA calls “special admits,” which is just a euphemism for admitting bozos who can’t even read.
This sorry practice not only cheapens all UGA degrees (which are pretty worthless to begin with), but embarrasses the State of Georgia and its citizens. And Mark Richt is the one behind the atrocities at UGA.
So enjoy your victories, and be kind to your former players when you see them working menial jobs in custodial or sanitation services. Or pushing a shopping cart around, looking for a warm place to sleep at night. That’s your UGA reality.
JHook
December 16th, 2012
9:13 am
Shaw, a cum laude graduate of the University of Alabama, is married to the former Jamelle Kabase.
DawgNole
December 16th, 2012
10:01 am
5150 UOAD
December 15th, 2012
5:00 pm
exactly NoleDwag…..your players had dirty hits. Bama players had dirty hits. So STFU crying about the other guys crap and suspend your players for what was a dirty hit and don’t worry about what bama does to its players. Richt is such the good Christian Moral man then he should suspend the UGa players for doing what you want Bama players suspended for.
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Sorry, had to take a 17-hour break for a Christmas party and the associated recovery process.
Now, back to your lying posts.
Please show the posts where I
- was “crying about the other guys crap”
- expressed “worry about what bama does to its players”
- said I “want Bama players suspended”
You can’t show those posts because they never happened, which means you’re lying–again. Hey, it’s a blog–we can swap barbs, exchange insults, and express different opinions all day long. But lying SHOULD be out of bounds, even for you–a Tech fan whose tiresome, nonstop berating of all things UGA on blogs about UGA topics gets old. Old this time simply because it comes from a Tech fan who pompously declares that UGA and Bama should “clean their house” when his own team’s house is far from the model of cleanliness.
Take care of home first–before you climb on your high horse and make idiotic pronoucements about the homes of others.
Voyager Dawg
December 16th, 2012
11:40 am
The hit by Tree on McCarron was bang-bang and not helmet to helmet. McCarron called for the flag and he got it. Dawson was not attempting to gouge anyone’s eyes out, his arm was fully extended and his index finger sticking out. His hand was barely touching the guys face mask. To compare these two with the hit from Dial is ridiculous. None the less, it’s over. If Georgia wants to start getting some of these calls, quit having so many penalties on our side, get tough and continue playing like they did this year. You have to earn the respect that Alabama has! GATA Dawgs!
The Fulmer Cup Trust
December 16th, 2012
5:01 pm
Ogletree hit McCarron with his helmet to the chin. But the message this non-suspension sends is the SEC is not ready to play football with skirts on in a flag football league. It would not have happened if Murray was paying attention.
SEC bias
December 16th, 2012
6:29 pm
Here’s the problem: A conference either sets the bar on helmet hits and head injuries or it doesn’t. This looks fishy, especially given the proximity to BCS championship game.
Now, before we jump into the obvious conspiracy theories — 1) Is SEC commissioner Mike Slive just doing whatever he can to ensure the conference wins its seventh straight BCS title;
But when asked for specifics about what Dial would have had to do get suspended, Shaw spoke in grays.
“Do I condone hit? No. It’s something that should’ve been [penalized],” Shaw said.
When asked if this same decision would’ve been made in September, Shaw said, “My commissioner would say, ‘I don’t really go into hypotheticals.”
When told that left the door open to theories that Alabama and Dial were being given preferential treatment because of the title game, he again gave a vague response.
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Slive cares about winning, plain & simple, not about doing the right thing, and Shaw’s one of his employees (i.e. My commissioner would say…). This is why NONE of the players metioned, on either UGA or Bama, will be suspended for their bowl game …. Both are playing NON-SEC teams.
Wins by the SEC teams vs Non-Conf opponents make the SEC look invincible (see all SEC teams’ OOC schedules).
Enjoy the ride while there’s still gas in the tank.
SEC Headlines 12/15/2012 – Arkansas – Razorbacks News
December 16th, 2012
6:51 pm
[...] Jeff Schultz on the decision by the SEC not to suspend Alabama’s Quinton Dial for a hit on Georgia quarterback Aa… “The SEC will allow Alabama coach Nick Saban to decide whether to suspend one of his defensive [...]
After further review
December 17th, 2012
9:49 am
Just as a side comment: congratulations to Valdosta Stae for winning the Division 2 championship, and to Mt. Union for winning the Division 3 championship. For all yhou SEC boosters, it might be interesting to know that this year was Mt. Union’s eighth consecutive apperance in the championship game, and that they have won 11 Division 3 national titles since 1993. They have been so dominante in their division that since 1993, no Mt. Union senior football player has left school without at least one national championship ring. All this in a school with a total enrollment of about 2,500, or less than half the size of the incoming freshman class at most SEC schools.
BP85
December 17th, 2012
10:30 am
Clearly, the hit was head to head and deserved a flag and supension. The earlier hit from Ogletree to the the Alabama QB, what’s her name, did not deserve a flag. Tree hit her as she was turning loose of the ball, and the referee threw a flag before the QB burst into tears.
AFDawg
December 17th, 2012
11:14 am
I used to never despise Auburn or Alabama. I always viewed them as quality opponents who played with class. After Fairley’s hit on Murray — I started hating Auburn because you could see the program and Chizik were encouraging it. I’ve been laughing my butt off ever since because Auburn and Chizik got what they deserved — especially at the hands of UGA (karma baby). Unless Saban takes the appropriate action against Dial, I will feel the same about Bama — a dirty program that cheats. Yes, trying to deliberately take a star player out of the game is cheating. SEC or no SEC, maybe ND will get the upset — that would be a good start (unless of course Saban benches Dial), which would be the honorable and courageous thing to do).
bamafan
December 17th, 2012
12:16 pm
Funny how your perception of eye gouging has changed in the three years since you raised hell about the Florida player eye gouging the UGA running back. Dial’s hit was clean ….no flag…..no suspension. Some one needs to coach Aaron Murray about what to do when he throws an interception.
Blitz
December 17th, 2012
1:13 pm
Dawg fan, here. Dial led with his shoulder and made contact with his helmet. It happens. The hit wasn’t late and the hit wasn’t unnecessary. Throw the flag for helmet-to-helmet and end the story. FWIW, the same could be said for the SCar DB earlier in the season. Suspension was ridiculous in that instance. The only suspension that was justified was the MMA move from the Bama player. Completely obvious in that instance that malicious intent was involved.
AFDawg
December 17th, 2012
4:44 pm
bamafan, You have to be kidding me — even the head of SEC officials said it should have been a penalty. He said it wasn’t called because the ref was focused on something else. How stupid can you be — oh yeah, you’re from Alabama, I almost forgot.
After further review
December 17th, 2012
10:32 pm
Fopr what it’s worth: since he’s a defensive lineman, there should be a running play or two in the playbook that would allow two offensive linemen a shot at him next possession. Perhaps getting sandwiched a couple of plays in a row would teach him the downside of cheap shopts on your QB.
Lamar
December 18th, 2012
1:57 am
IF I AM ANOTHER COACH AND ONE OF MY PLAYERS GET SUSPENDED FOR HEAD SHOTS, THEN THERE IS NO WAY I HONOR THEM TELLING ONE OF MY GUYS TO SET OUT A WEEK!! REASON?? I WOULD TELL THE SCUM BAGS I WANT THE SAME TREATMENT AS DIAL GOT!! NONE!!!! ALABAMA IS THE GOLDEN CHILD BUT THEY ARE ABOUT TO CRASH AND BURN!!! BESIDES I BET THEY DON’T WANT ANYMORE OF GA!! CAN WE HAVE A REMATCH LIKE THEY GOT LAST YEAR?? NO!! WHY?? BECAUSE WE ARE GA!! ENOUGH Said!!
Still hurting from the humiliating beatdown by Bama
December 18th, 2012
8:41 am
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No Problem
December 18th, 2012
10:39 am
Next time we play the tree killing tea baggers, take a late, cheap, to the head, shot; and leave their QB twitching on the field.
That will send the message that the SEC won’t.
No Problem
December 18th, 2012
10:40 am
4 points is a himiliating beatdown.
Bamatards are good at math.
No Problem
December 18th, 2012
10:41 am
humiliating
No Problem
December 18th, 2012
10:42 am
**humiliating
Too bad, so sad
December 18th, 2012
3:19 pm
When you take the humiliating beatdowns by South Carolina and Alabama and add in the incredibly humiliating loss to Iona, the dawggies will be in mourning for many months.
That is sooooooooooo sad.
After further review
December 18th, 2012
9:52 pm
Personally, I would not charaterize 32-28 and driving for the winning score whentime elapsed much of a beatdown. A tough loss the way thinngs played out, but hardly a beatdown.
BigDawg
December 19th, 2012
11:31 am
First off the person who should be fired is the official who was looking at the play and called nothing. Next this entire officiating crew should be suspended for deciding the outcome of the game with no calls against Bama. After the 3rd series their offensive line was not even attempting to block they were grabbing on every play. Next they were spotting the ball forward for Bama and spotting it back on Georgia. They called every tacky penalty on Georgia, it is hard to beat a bad team when the officiating is so one sided much less a great team like Bama has.
AFDawg
December 19th, 2012
3:55 pm
Reports are coming from the Alabama campus that Dial is bragging and laughing about his cheap shot to Murray — he’s actually taken responsibility for playing dirty. I think (or at least I would hope) he would be singing a different song if Murray were laying paralyzed in a hospital from a broken neck. Doesn’t he realize he could have ended a promising quarterback’s career with that blatantly vicious hit? Nobody likes a program that plays dirty and cheats. I’m praying for karma to kick in and for ND to score the upset, or any other karma that might affect Bama down the road. Lord knows karma certainly caught up with Auburn after Fairley’s and company dirty play and cheating. Dirty play and cheating permeated that entire program from the top on down — to see their program disentegrating now is karma at it’s best and well deserved. Whatever happened to playing by the rules with honor? Saban and company don’t know the first thing about that — gray shirt scandal, telling players to move to Alabama so they can recruit them, trying to take out star players with cheap shots — it’s disgusting.
All Saints
December 21st, 2012
8:26 am
In tribute to our beloved martyred Saint Jan Kemp, let’s all bow our heads for a few moments of silent prayer. Thirty years ago, this courageous young lady risked everything to expose the corruption and academic fraud instigated by Vince Dooley, sleazy practices that continue to this day under douchebag coach Mark Richt. Gone but never forgotten, Saint Jan lives on in our hearts and minds as a guiding inspiration and as a symbol of resistance to the malevolent evil and corruption that dwell in Athens.
And now, let us all pray for Saint Jan…
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Thank you, you may now resume your normal activities.
Only one report that matters: 32-28
December 21st, 2012
8:37 am
AFDawg: Reports are coming from the Alabama campus that Dial is bragging and laughing about his cheap shot to Murray.
Sure they are, you liar. Why don’t you post a link to these alleged “reports”?
What a jerk. Another whining, lying leghumper.
funny...
December 21st, 2012
8:48 am
Alabama fans are like spoiled little children.
Listen, no one said hitting the quarterback on an interception isn’t illegal. It was the manner that Dial hit Murray.
No one said that Georgia’s players shouldn’t be suspended or penalized either.
Of all the fans on earth to act like they’ve done it before it should be you.
But then again, you are from Alabama. It’s all you’ve got. Well, that, and Wal-Mart
funny...
December 21st, 2012
8:50 am
Alabama fans talking about lying. Post a link to all of your National Championships as supported by the NCAA
LOL, that’s what I thought.
Not sure why Alabama fans have such a chip on their shoulder. You’ve had all this success and you act like South Carolina.