Falcons give performance to leave us wondering again
DeAngelo Williams' 53-yard touchdown off a screen pass buried the Falcons late. (AP photo)
CHARLOTTE – It started with the Carolina Panthers winning the coin flip for the first time this season. It ended with the Falcons being trash-talked off the field by a last-place team. Somewhere in between, we witnessed Atlanta’s worst four quarters of football of the season.
And the Falcons’ deserved it all – the loss, the mocking, the questions about what this means moving forward.
“I can hear everybody right now,” tight end Tony Gonzalez said. “They’re getting off the bandwagon. I can hear them jumping off. Looking at our history, people are going to go, ‘See, I told you.’”
OK. It’s a little premature for I-told-you-sos. The Falcons haven’t lost a playoff game yet. But it has to be concerning when an 11-1 team falls behind 23-0 to a 3-9 team, and at one point finds itself being outgained 356-66. It’s concerning any time a defensive front is so thoroughly shredded the way the Falcons’ front was Sunday, and the offense can’t run the ball (again), and all hopes of opening the regular season’s final month with an impressive win are emphatically squashed.
Cam Newton account for 403 yards and three touchdowns passing and rushing. (AP photo)
The Falcons lost 30-20 to Carolina. They managed to make Cam Newton feel like he was back at Auburn again.
If Newton could combine for 403 yards and three touchdowns with his arm and legs in victories every week, media members wouldn’t be hiding behind potted palms and waiting for anonymous quotes that rip him for being petty, immature and ego-maniacal (just paraphrasing the attack pieces).
The fact the Falcons lost a game in itself isn’t devastating. They’re 11-2. They’ve already clinched the NFC South Division and remain in a strong position to clinch home field through the NFC playoffs.
But Gonzalez is correct: This was like feeding steroids to a doubting public.
Next week’s game against the New York Giants will tell us something. The Falcons find themselves having to rebound, physically and emotionally, against the team that drop-kicked them out of the playoffs last year.
“We all knew we were flat,” linebacker Sean Weatherspoon said. “It seemed like every time there was a play to be made, we were almost there. You can’t be almost in this league.
“We get a chance to go after some guys who controlled our destiny last year.”
Yes. Best to turn the page as quickly as possible. Embrace the possibility of amnesia.
The Falcons made the Panthers look like a playoff team. Carolina scored on its first five possessions (two touchdowns, three field goals), and only one of those ended in a big play (Newton’s 72-yard touchdown run, finished off with a flip). Mostly, the Panthers punched the Falcons in the mouth.
It figured they would milk this a little, and they did. When the Falcons rallied for a 30-28 win back in September in the Georgia Dome – Matt Bryant’s game-winning field goal coming with five seconds remaining – quarterback Matt Ryan was caught on camera screaming toward Carolina’s bench to, “Get the [bleep] off our field!”
So when this one ended, several Carolina players were overheard trash-talking on the field, led by defensive end Greg Hardy, who witnesses say mimicked Ryan’s comment, “Get the [bleep] off our field.” Bryant’s reported response: “Watch us in January.” Introducing, the trash-talking kicker.
Hardy is the same obscurity who earlier said the Panthers were a “better” team than the Falcons, adding: “I’m trying to mess up their whole playoff experience. I want them to go home sick in the stomach, mad about life, a couple depression issues …” (He didn’t make himself available for the media Sunday.)
Down 23-0, the Falcons showed a pulse. Ryan’s four-yard touchdown pass to Julio Jones closed it to 23-13. But a seemingly successful two-point conversion pass to Roddy White was ruled incomplete (questionably), deflating the comeback. DeAngelo Williams’ touchdown on a 53-yard screen pass slammed the door shut.
When asked if he considered this loss a bump in the road, Gonzalez responded: “It better be, if we’re the team we think we are.”
Instead, they’ve left everybody wondering again.
By Jeff Schultz
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Michael M.
December 10th, 2012
12:56 am
It will be a fun game nest week watching Eli get sacked by Atlanta and throw some picks………..
Michael M.
December 10th, 2012
12:57 am
Time for the giants to drop one and maybe Atlanta will be where they do it
Birdhouse
December 10th, 2012
1:34 am
Note to Falcons: Contenders do what Denver did after winning their division. They step on the gas and clinch home field vs. pussyfooting around and sleepwalking in the next game!
David
December 10th, 2012
1:39 am
Matt Ryan is good……but, he is no Cam Newton!
Newton is a phenom.
I wish we could trade Ran or Cam straight up….but Panthers would never do it.
Pete
December 10th, 2012
1:45 am
I think all professional ball players should be paid a modest salary – say between $100K and $300K, depending on experience and basic value to the team. All other compensation would be performance-based, per game. It is unacceptable for people who are paid the salaries that these guys are to perform so poorly as the Falcons did today against the Panthers. No other business would allow such a disparity of pay vs. performance.
treyday
December 10th, 2012
1:52 am
Some of you don’t deserve a winning team. The birds got beat down and deserved to. But to be prophets of doom about ONE game is sad. Stop crying, this team will be fine. As for the Braves analogy, they did win a World Series. Ask a Cubs fan what’s that like. I do agree that the Giants game will give some insight as to where the birds are headed.
captguitarman
December 10th, 2012
1:59 am
Lots of comments and disappointment, but no, Tony, I’m not jumping off of the band wagon. The Falcons have Jekyll and Hyde tendencies, no doubt, and they seem to pop out this time of year, but I’m going with Dr. Jekyll. The Giants are definitely beatable, but they won a major victory against a top team today after overcoming adversity, and the Falcons lost to a 3 and 9 team with a quarterback capable of winning games by himself, and, not quite by himself, he did. And that is what the Falcons will be facing next week, another quarterback who can win it all by himself.
Can the Birds win this and go on and win more? Yes. They are a great team when they want to be. But, if the Falcons don’t prepare this week, mentally and physically (emphasis on mentally), like they would prepare for a league championship or a Super Bowl. This will be 2011 redux. It was a disgrace that Carolina beat a team like this at this point in the season, but it is not too late to start working on mental toughness more than anything else (as today showed), and just decide that no one is going to beat you. New York has screwed around all year, but now it is play off time, and ou can feel the giant (no pun intended) stirring. It is mid December, and they have decided that no one is going to beat them now. Powerful stuff. Do the Birds have it? I think they do, but it is time to show it.
amd
December 10th, 2012
2:18 am
hey matt i bet you keep your big mouth shut now
Mike S.
December 10th, 2012
2:25 am
Its not going to matter until they win a playoff game. No one is going to care. Every team has a clunker or two during the regular season. The Giants, Packers, Patriots, Ravens…all have dropped head scratchers this year. This isnt CFB. The regular season is where you want to have these kinds of games. its all an audition for the real thing…the playoffs. The Falcons have proved they can consistently make the playoffs and have a winning record. Now its time to show they can win a playoff game. Regular season records dont matter…just ask the Giants (winners of 2007 and 2011 Super Bowls as a wild card).
steve kaye
December 10th, 2012
3:43 am
Did anyone think it was odd going for the two point conversion? If you kick it, a touchdown and a fireld goal wins the game.
Thomas Brown
December 10th, 2012
3:59 am
CGD.. December 10th, 2012 12:31 am
“Mark Richt= 2-15 against top ranked teams since 2008.
Always go with the other guy.. That’s easy..”
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Since you obviously don’t know what your team’s record is against top teams and want to tell me what my team’s record is against top teams, no team has a record against the top teams. Always go with the top teams, who by the way, are a losing record themselves against the top teams. Name your team CGD, and I will put up their record too :
20* Won who made AP Poll Top 25:
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# 4 Tennessee 2001
# 24 Georgia Tech 2001
# 11 Alabama 2002
# 14 Auburn 2002
# 21 FSU 2002
# 15 Tennessee 2003
# 18 Purdue 2003
# 22 Clemson 2003
# 17 Wisconsin 2004
# 16 LSU 2004
# 6 LSU in 2005 SEC Championship
# 19 Virginia Tech in 2006
# 9 Auburn 2006
# 13 Florida 2007
# 15 Auburn in 2007
# 19 Hawai’i in 2007
# 13 Georgia Tech in 2009
# 4 Florida 2012
# 27 Vanderbilt 2012 in top 25 with bowl win*
# 23 Nebraska probably drops out of Top 25 when beat them*
28 Lost who made AP Poll Top 25:
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# 3 Florida 2001
# 13 South Carolina 2001
# 21 Boston College 2001
# 3 LSU 2003
# 3 LSU 2003
# 2 Auburn 2004
# 13 Tennessee 2004
# 5 West Virginia 2005
# 12 Florida 2005
# 14 Auburn 2005
# 1 Florida 2006
# 25 Tennessee 2006
# 12 Tennessee 2007
# 1 Florida 2008
# 6 Alabama 2008
# 22 Georgia Tech 2008
# 3 Florida 2009
# 17 LSU 2009
# 1 Auburn 2010
# 12 Arkansas 2010
# 15 Mississippi State 2010
# 21 Central Florida 2010
# 22 South Carolina 2010
# 2 LSU 2011
# 8 Boise State 2011
# 11 Michigan State 2011
# 11 South Carolina 2012
# 2 Alabama 2012
Strange Murphy
December 10th, 2012
4:13 am
Super Bowl teams don’t get embarrassed like this by last place teams. One and done in the playoffs again.
Thomas Brown
December 10th, 2012
4:15 am
ClassicHawks December 9th, 2012 11:03 pm
“THE HAWKS ARE 12-5… HOW ABOUT YALL GO SUPPORT EM!!!!”
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# 1 San Antonio 17-4
# 2 Oklahoma City 17-4
# 3 Memphis 14-4
# 4 New York 15-5
# 5 Miami 13-5
# 6 Atlanta 12-5
# 7 LA Clippers 14-6
And, that is after the Hawks won 3 straight. The Hawks are # 6 or # 7 right now today out of 30 teams. In terms of college football, with 120 teams, that is the equivalent of being not in the top 25 after winning 3 games in a row.
Thomas Brown
December 10th, 2012
4:20 am
Answer This December 9th, 2012 10:20 pm
“Thomas dont talk about a teams defense until you look at yours.”
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Who is your team so we can all go look up your defense ?
Evan
December 10th, 2012
4:23 am
We all have to accept those factors we wish weren’t reality: lawyers, death, Democrats, diseases.
The Falcons have weak line play, eternally weak cornerbacks and no running game. How is it even possible they are 11–2?
Three answers: Ryan, Gonzales and astounding luck.
Accept this.
jerry
December 10th, 2012
4:57 am
Like I’ve always said. There is only one thing that stands between Georgia sports teams and winning championships. Losing.
ex falcon
December 10th, 2012
5:03 am
The falcons did not deserve to win and Cam made them look foolish. Superbowl teams don’t play up and down like the falcons. We are a good team but I don’t think we are ready to be called the best of the NFL. Still missing several things on both sides of the ball.
Thomas Brown
December 10th, 2012
5:07 am
Deion Sanders won 2 Super Bowls after we just let him leave as a 5th year free agent. He came back here and did it to us. Other than he, there isn’t anyone in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, who really played for the Falcons – and, he only played a third of his Pro Bowl years here. Deion Sanders won the Super Bowl with the San Francisco 49ers the year after he left Atlanta Falcons. Deion Sanders also won the Super Bowl with Dallas Cowboys where the majority of his NFL football career best years were. The only thing Falcon about Deion Sanders is that we drafted him, had him, and let him leave – like Brett Favre.
Brett Favre the Falcons traded for Tony Smith, Brett Favre’s teammate at Southern Mississippi. Brett Favre had 11 Pro Bowl years with the Green Bay Packers and won the Super Bowl. He threw over 500 Touchdown Passes before retiring January last year.
Amazing how someone can post that we should not talk about Defense until we look at my team’s defense and refuse to tell us who his own damn team is.
The Georgia Bulldogs are not playing in a BCS Bowl Game.
# 21 BCS Poll ranked Louisville is playing BCS Bowl Game
# Unranked Wisconsin at 7-5 in playing in a BCS Bowl Game
# 15 Northern Illinois who lost to 4-8 Iowa is in a BCS Bowl Game, and they did not even play – let alone beat – any ranked team all season long.
So, what the blazes do you run in here saying ?
Nah, nah, nah nah, The Georgia Bulldogs are not playing in a BCS Bowl Game.
Playing in a BCS Bowl Game, other than the Title Game, means nothing – not that you ever played this sport or any other sport, nor ever described whom it is your team is while you put down our team telling us to not discuss defense without discussing our own defense, when you categorically hide whom it is your own team is.
The Falcons have done nothing – other than let 2 Pro Football Hall of Fame players get away.
The Georgia Bulldogs have had far better season than the BCS Bowl Games’ participants, and we have won about as many big games as any other team in the nation in the Mark Richt era, while having the single most NFL Draft Picks 2001 to 2013 during the Mark Richt era, after this seasons’ players are drafted with the 2nd best recruiting rankings 2001 to 2012, while not being on NCAA Probation.
Now, who the hell is your team
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CGD
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Answer This
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North by southeast
December 10th, 2012
5:12 am
Seriously, shut up about the schedule. This isn’t college football. The Falcons just play the games they’re given and they’ve done exactly what they’re supposed to…win the majority of those games. The rest of the division have had the same schedule and none have them could do that, but everyone keeps talking about how “they’re better than their record shows.” In the NFL road wins come at a premium…for everyone.
Thomas Brown
December 10th, 2012
5:21 am
Play-off game wins come at a premium since the Atlanta Falcons have only beat the Vikings in the play-offs in 46 seasons’ to-date and that was 15 years ago.
A seasoned football fan
December 10th, 2012
5:32 am
People and Mr Shultz, please. You’re not paying attention to what’s very normal history in all professional sports; especially football. Look at all the great teams of the past–Steelers, 49ers, Patriots, Cowboys–that finished the season 12-4 or 13-3, lost to crappy teams, and still made the Superbowl. And why? Every team has a few off games/weeks. Look at history. What matters is finishing. Quit crying over one game. If they end December 11-5, then OK. You can whine. Until then, support them.
JSS
December 10th, 2012
5:42 am
“The rest of the division have had the same schedule and none have them could do that, but everyone keeps talking about how “they’re better than their record shows.”
No, New Orleans played Green Bay and San Francisco, the Falcons got sn 11-5 schedule which gave them Arizona and Detroit… Tampa got the Vikings and the Rams… Carolina got the Seahawks and the Bears…
Lolligag
December 10th, 2012
5:50 am
As was said on Sunday night Football last night…”No one is afraid to play the Falcons” The league realizes that this team is a fraud and will crumbles come playoff time.
Buddy Landel
December 10th, 2012
6:01 am
Matt “CHOKE” Ryan
December 9th, 2012
7:02 pm
I heard Mrs. CHOKE is leaving for Joe Flacco because she wants to trade up and be with a winner.
HA HA
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Flacco lost today….try again. Michael Vick is finished. You live a miserable existence
Lmao at the SB ringless Falcants
December 10th, 2012
6:01 am
As predicted….more failure looms..one and done in playoffs..frauds…exposed…no chance ever to win a SB….joke of the league…
Lmao at the SB ringless Falcants
December 10th, 2012
6:02 am
CHOKE – the official soft drink of the SB RINGLESS FALCANTS..LMAO..,FRAUDS..
63-39-5
December 10th, 2012
6:04 am
i think it was the worst game sense an older falcons panthers match up dec 24 2006
Lmao at the SB ringless Falcants
December 10th, 2012
6:06 am
Until you win a SB…,sssshhhh…you’ve done nothing.,,you’re just am OK regular season team…lmao…forever ringless in ATL..
CKnight
December 10th, 2012
6:08 am
Tony Gonzales you said it yourself. Look at our history. No one at this point, since you have not dominated any teams, has any real hope that the Falcons will advance more than one game into the playoffs. Until the Falcons prove they are legitimate contenders and can win the big games with consistency all we can expect is what it has always been. “almost” and wait till next year.
63-39-5
December 10th, 2012
6:09 am
the run defense rears its ugly head again,but falcons fan for life
FactCheck
December 10th, 2012
6:20 am
Last few games Falcons looked pathetic. Turner is done as running back. Without a solid running game we are not going anywhere.
Not only will embarrass in the first round of the play offs will also loose to the Giants and Tampa Bay. Did you see the Giants embarrassing the Saints by scoring 52 pouts?
Whadda Ya Know?
December 10th, 2012
6:26 am
Falcons run the same old predictable plays over and over and over each week. I thought Mike Mularkey was gone? Nolan cannot figure out how to stop SCam Newton? When they run that option one player knocks the QB down and another takes the RB ALWAYS!!! It’s not rocket science. This team has a bunch of mediocre, overachieving players that Dimitroff has drafted. Speaking of Dimitroff, how has his top draft picks been turning out??? DL and OL are still weak and cannot put pressure on a QB with the front four or protect the Glass Queen Ryan (who cracks under pressure). Giants coming to town next Sunday…oh lawd!!!
North by southeast
December 10th, 2012
6:41 am
@ Thomas Brown…”the Atlanta Falcons have only beat the Vikings in the play-offs in 46 seasons’ to-date and that was 15 years ago.
Very interesting Thomas. The Falcons somehow played in the NFC championship game in the ‘98 and ‘04 seasons without winning any other playoff games those years. How did that happen?
And what about being the only team to beat the Packers in Greenbay in the postseason for the 2002 season?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not calling you a liar. Just stupid.
JeanE
December 10th, 2012
6:45 am
Sometimes it doesn’t seem t matter who’s coaching this team, it’s same old same old. Dirk Koetter looks to be Mike Mularkey light. I was never in favor of hitching our ride to one Matt Ryan and even though it takes a whole team to lose, this guy is not someone who can elevate his team to a higher leavel ala Brady or Rodgers. He is average to sometimes good, never great. We were only missing 1 impact player, Moore at safety so can’t blame it on that. It was disgusting, I took my Falcons jersey OFF at 1/2 time even though Warrick Dunn had nothing to do with that stinker the team laid in Charlotte. I picked them but I should’ve seen “trap game” coming, it was written all over it. This is what they come out like after an extra long break??? No breaks for the rest of the season! I’m frustrated because our weaknesses were our weaknesses last year and nothing was done but change the coordinators. Our o-line stunk last yr and reeks again this yr, but Dimitroff doesn’t seem willing to do anything about that personnel. We still have not compliment to Abe and our fat over the hill runner is so done. I was ready to jettison him last yr but again, they elected to stay the course. We have 1 and done in the playoffs in our future AGAIN. Arthur, that won’t make ramming a new stadium we don’t need down our throats any more palatable to the public, believe me. If we don’t come out next week on fire against the Giants, this team will never earn any national or even local, respect. Carolina is improved, no doubt but we had no response until it was too little, too late.
RB
December 10th, 2012
6:47 am
I agree the Giants will stomp the Falcons. It will be a precurser of the Falcons upcoming playoffs. This team is missing in too many areas.
Big Ray
December 10th, 2012
6:48 am
The point is, the Falcons took a dump today and gave Schultzie something to feed the bottom feeding losers like JSS (hey, everybody has to eat, right?). Nothing new about that. Last I looked though, you didn’t have an 11-2 record in the NFL by pure luck and coincidence. All that needs to be done is get a real offensive mind in here (even if means throwing Smitty out the door), stop the love affair with Mike Turner, and draft a RG, a FAST RB, and a big DT.
North by southeast
December 10th, 2012
6:50 am
@JSS…Yeah, those two games make all the difference in the world. Without them, the division would look totally different, right?
blackandwhitestripes
December 10th, 2012
6:50 am
Falcons will not make it past the first round of the playoffs. This team is not a Super Bowl bound team. No defense and Matt Ryan is not half as good of a QB as Cam Newton. A good team does not let another team trash talk them and come on the field and beat the crap out of them and then trash talk them again as they are leaving the field. Same ol dirty birds.
NtheNe
December 10th, 2012
6:51 am
Falcon’s Championship team? Atlanta to finish 11-5 and lose first game in playoff. Friends, adhere these words – Never, ever, get emotionally involved with the ATLANTA FALCONS.
JeanE
December 10th, 2012
6:58 am
Also, what is UP with the team needing 10 yards and receiver runs a 9 yard route?????? Drives me up the wall! This team without doubt, has no killer instinct. Except for you Tony, you are awesome and I’m sorry you’re stuck on this loser team. Now come out with some fire next week and prove us all wrong, Falcons.
Thomas Brown
December 10th, 2012
6:58 am
The Falcons have won more play-off games than just only the Vikings ?
Seriously, I am calling you a liar when we have won at most 1 other play-off game any season.
1 and done or 0 for the play-offs.
GT
December 10th, 2012
6:58 am
Gonzalez answered exactly like the public relations department instructed. I dealt a reporter has gotten any raw emotions out of him for years, which is part of the reason he will be in the hall. Carolina does what Georgia does so often they talk a lot more than they walk. It is more about them and less about team. These are the kind of guys the Players Association will have to put on welfare years from now because they think their entitled to blow their mouth off, show no respect for the game and blow their money doing so. It is the foundation of Losersville, we have seen our share in this town, but no more, now we worry if we are good enough to win a Super Bowl. Just saying that is amazing to me, after a lifetime of being Carolina.
Thomas Brown
December 10th, 2012
7:01 am
I love how people have all these excuses for a BAD LOSS.
The best is the mutiple times posted : This is a great Loss for the Falcons. Now they’ve got this behind them for the play-offs.
JSS
December 10th, 2012
7:04 am
i wondered when the slime ball would rear his viper head. You are like the pied piper leading children to slaughter… You declared this scheme and set of coordinators the solution. Damn the lack of depth, damn that other teams (even sub .500 ones) would ever catch up to any of the smoke and mirrors…
Ray, I won’t venture down your road, not because it is not worth going down in coal mine and getting black lung, but because like your tirades on your diaster of a departed fan blog, it is just a waste of space… January is fast approaching, and all of the flaws of the other playoff hopefuls is all that you have to hang on to… Because it is as simple as this, the player you love to hate hung a 72 yard on your great defensive mind! He threw on you, he ran on you, and managed a game from the front on you! Side note, when you pay my bills, then make some snide remarks, “about everybody has to eat!”
JB
December 10th, 2012
7:06 am
I watched the Ravens and Steelers play two weeks age. Both those teams could beat the Falcons. The Falcons will falter to physical teams.
JSS
December 10th, 2012
7:09 am
No, they are a hell of a trade off in quality of opponents, and the statements was not “everybody played different schedules, was it?”
Who, are, these, Falcon's.
December 10th, 2012
7:11 am
I have a gut feeling. When the Falcon’s get into, the playoff’s. It, will, be the same old song. ONE, AND DONE.
Lil' Barry Bailout
December 10th, 2012
7:14 am
You’ll know the Falcons are more interested in winning than in marketing when they start drafting and trading to fix their O and D lines instead of overpaying for “skill” positions.
Esquire
December 10th, 2012
7:18 am
A bump in the road? Our Birds got their asses handed to them. This doesn’t bode well for our next
match up. I knew the Panthers would play well but we seemed defenseless. Carolina could have beaten a lot of teams yesterday. Were we looking ahead? I don’t think so. Ok, Ok, I know we were missing a couple of key players so we better damn well hope they are back against NY. Ok Ok, I know we got screwed on the call on the 2 point conversion, was that ref a former replacement official? TOTALLY BOGUS CALL…………but that didn’t make a difference as it turned out.
If we are going any deeper in the playoffs than 1 game this performance won’t cut it. If the Giants handle us like they did the Saints we might as well start plotting our draft and FA signings.
Answer This
December 10th, 2012
7:19 am
Hey JSS catch fire….lol dude you got problems. You wake up spewing hate! You are garbarge you hobbitt! You here only to tell us how bad the falcons are and how great you are with google
I shut your dumba$$ up with that wack statement you made and now you troll on? When will you get that you are the slime of all slime around here. Only your two crossbreed brothers Thomas and Dawg like you. Lol and they both want to tell us how great UGA is……now thats funny….they actually have an arguement for UGA…..and btw stop lending Thomas your google app…..that guy has to much time on his hands!