Vince Dooley: Joy from Georgia’s rise, pain from son’s firing

Some of Vince Dooley's joy over Georgia's resurgence took a hit with his son's firing. (Brant Sanderlin/AJC)

Vince Dooley's joy for Georgia's resurgence took a hit with his son's firing. (Brant Sanderlin/AJC)

On Sunday, when everybody associated with Georgia football was still basking in the afterglow of the season’s 10th victory and the anticipation of a dramatic flip at the top in the BCS standings, the Dooleys of Athens received a phone call from their son, Derek.

“I knew it was going to happen,” Vince Dooley said. “I felt for sure it was going to happen. Then on Sunday when he contacted us and told us, it was difficult. You hurt for your family. You hurt for your son.”

Seldom do the extreme highs and lows of competitive athletics collide like this.

Dooley hired Mark Richt and watched him win two SEC championships in his first five seasons. He saw the program slip back for a couple of seasons and Richt try to navigate through “crises” while four other SEC schools won six national championships and so many called for the coach’s head. Now the Bulldogs are more than relevant again. A second consecutive SEC title game berth awaits, a No. 3 national ranking provides a tease for something even greater and Richt has been listed as a national coach-of-the-year candidate.

“Coaching has always been about surviving a series of crises,” Dooley said Tuesday. “In Mark’s case, he had a charmed life. He didn’t have a lot of criticism until a couple of years ago. So I’m very pleased to see how he’s responded to that. He needed to right the ship and get back to the high standards again, and he’s done that. That doesn’t mean he won’t have another series of crises to deal with again one day. He will. Because once you get up there, you’ll always have crises.”

Derek Dooley told Vince that coaching the final game would be a distraction for the team. (AP photo)

Derek Dooley told Vince that coaching the final game would be a distraction for the team. (Brant Sanderlin/AJC)

Tennessee allowed Derek Dooley three years of crises, then they fired him. It didn’t matter that the program was in a crises when the younger Dooley was hired. Lane Kiffin had bolted, and the school pointed to a burning building and told Dooley, “Fix it. Fast.” That was too great a feat for any coach to accomplish, let alone one making the leap from Louisiana Tech to the SEC, his genes notwithstanding.

But Vince Dooley understands the reality of coaching today: A man doesn’t go 4-19 in the SEC at programs like Tennessee and survive.

“I knew the situation,” he said. “They came very close in some big ballgames that unfortunately they didn’t win. I know [Tennessee athletic director] Dave Hart personally. He anguished over this. But in light of the situation I understand the decision. Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech in his first six seasons had 24 wins and 40 losses. In his sixth year he won two games. But until this season he was one of the winningest coaches in football. Coaches don’t get that

kind of time any more.”

Dooley said he had only one question for his son: Why was he not going to coach Tennessee’s final game at Kentucky?

“Derek said he requested that because he felt he would be distraction,” Dooley said. “He said all of the speculation about his job was a distraction before the Vanderbilt game and he felt that hurt the team (a 41-18 loss), so he didn’t want that to happen again. Once he said that, I admired his decision. I felt it was important to get that out because it’s not like they didn’t want him around.”

Barbara Dooley has taken firing the hardest, Vince said. (Hyosub Shin/AJC)

Barbara Dooley has taken firing the hardest, Vince said. (Hyosub Shin/AJC)

Anybody close to Georgia football knows how much Vince and Barbara wanted their son to succeed. Dad would catch Tennessee’s game on television in press boxes around the SEC while traveling with the Bulldogs. Mom attended games in Knoxville, dressed in orange. When the schools met, Barbara never was conflicted.

“That’s my baby, and I’m pulling for Tennessee. If the Georgia people don’t understand that, then I just don’t get it,” she once said.

Barbara politely declined to speak Tuesday.

“It’s been difficult, especially on my wife, who takes things harder than I do,” Vince said. “That’s her baby. I told her it will take a while for the pain to go away. She’s hurting more than [Derek]. He’s handling it better than she is.”

Three more victories would heal a lot of wounds. Georgia has three games left: It’s a local rival (Georgia Tech), the SEC championship (Alabama) and a bowl game (in the Utopian experience of two more wins, it’s the BCS Championship game in Miami).

Dooley has been down this road before. He knows Richt is concerned that players’ minds might be on matters not related to the Georgia Tech game. That’s a danger, regardless of what the fans, the alumni, the media and the oddsmakers say.

Dooley, who hired Richt, happy that the coach has "righted the ship" at Georgia. (Joey Ivansco/AJC)

Dooley, who hired Richt, happy that the coach has "righted the ship" at Georgia. (Joey Ivansco/AJC)

“Back in 1980 when we were undefeated before the Georgia Tech game, I had a player from the 1927 team talk to the players how they were in the same situation and ended up losing to Georgia Tech in the final game,” Dooley said. “It can happen — it has happened. You have people see that Tech maybe doesn’t have the direction Georgia does and you find yourself looking beyond this week, and that rubs off on players. As a coach, that worries you.”

With Vince Dooley, you always get a story. If it’s not about the Georgia team that went 9-0 in 1927 before losing to Tech 12-0, it’s about Charley Trippi coming back from World War II in 1945. Trippi was invoked when Dooley was asked about the Dogs’ early-season struggles with injuries and suspensions, even after four players returned.

“When Charley Trippi came out of the military, all the players expected he was going to be some Superman, and when he came back the rest of the team just sort of watched him,” he said. “They played LSU, and they just annihilated Trippi. It took a while for that team to respond to crisis. But they eventually did, and so did this team. I know it was devastating playing South Carolina and laying an egg there, and then playing poorly at Kentucky, although I did that plenty of times. But going down and beating Florida was big, and now here they are. I’m really pleased for the whole program and particularly for Mark, since [hiring him] was one of my last decisions.”

He’ll try to focus on that and let time heal everything else.

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467 comments Add your comment

JB

November 20th, 2012
4:04 pm

Will the ACC title game be pay per view?

01HAWK

November 20th, 2012
4:05 pm

GTBob

November 20th, 2012
3:59 pm

If Tech goes to the Orange Bowl and UGA goes to the Capitol One bowl then did GT have a better season?

That is to FUNNY !!!!!!!!!!!

GTBob

November 20th, 2012
4:06 pm

FSU will cream Tech. Cream I say.

I have a feeling about the FSU game. UGA will slaughter us but I think we are going to cause issues for FSU.

Buckeye

November 20th, 2012
4:06 pm

the dogs are going to beat Northwestern in a closely contested Outback Bowl game and yell SEC! SEC!

tom brown, oops, meant “Turkey” tom brown will rejoice.

The skies will part over the grain towers and car dealerships of Athens and all will be right with the world.

Then, come February, they will once again be future national champions.

Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville

November 20th, 2012
4:08 pm

I’m a Georgia fan. It’s a license to be stupid.

We dont need the money since we are one of the top 5 money making football programs

What is the street number on North Ave so we can help donate to the Athletic program that is in the hole on North Ave

I'm a Georgia fan. It's a license to be stupid.

November 20th, 2012
4:08 pm

They will chant “SEC”, even though they contribute little to the overall success of the conference…just a red and black version of Ole Miss…

rhbDAWG1

November 20th, 2012
4:08 pm

Ron Burgundy – Here’s to a “broken system”. We don’t make the rules, we just play who is scheduled. Eat your heart? out.

ARdawg

November 20th, 2012
4:09 pm

Don’t cry too much for Baby Dooley. 5 million goes a long way in the order of compensation and he’ll have another job before the money runs out. With that said, he did a good job and was fired prematurely. A victim of McFootball

DeezNutz

November 20th, 2012
4:10 pm

01HAWK is right about Dooley. I wondered why Tenn hired him. Being a .500 coach at La Tech isn’t really anything to write home about. Whatever happened to Shula’s Kid? Is he still coaching? I see the same path for Baby Boy Dooley.

Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville

November 20th, 2012
4:12 pm

Buckeye

Who is Ohio St going to beat in the bowl game this year????

I dont think you will be able to buy your corupt program into a bowl game this year

Im sure you have the money to buy the refs off in the next BCS game if you dont end up playing an SEC team cause the game wont be close to have the refs make close decisions in a close game

Alphare

November 20th, 2012
4:12 pm

Among the baby coaches, Jim Mora seems to be doing good these days.

GTBob

November 20th, 2012
4:12 pm

What is the street number on North Ave so we can help donate to the Athletic program that is in the hole on North Ave

Maybe we will reciprocate by donating some money to the UGA endowment so that maybe in time it can grow to half as large as GTs. Nah, nevermind, you guys would waste it.

DeezNutz

November 20th, 2012
4:13 pm

Buckeye, what happened? I thought you were gonna sit out today? Was GTBob getting too much attention?

Buckeye

November 20th, 2012
4:13 pm

jacskonsville,

We’ve litigated your question over the past 24 hours.

Buckeye

November 20th, 2012
4:13 pm

The Ohio State University … a once proud program that still hasn’t beaten an SEC team. We have Kirk Herbstreit though. Did I mention I have an autographed poster of him displayed proudly in my room?

Cdpridg

November 20th, 2012
4:14 pm

GT bob..mason jar maybe??

Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville

November 20th, 2012
4:14 pm

I’m a Georgia fan. It’s a license to be stupid.

UGA is 3rd in SEC championships and could be 2nd if they win next week and 5th in bowl victories

Aub FL and LSU cant even say that

I think we contribute just fine

Buckeye

November 20th, 2012
4:15 pm

Buckeye’s alter ego, Evil Buckeye, is back.

Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville

November 20th, 2012
4:15 pm

Bob

I wouldnt be talking about waste since your Athletic program is in the red and your AD ran away

Buckeye

November 20th, 2012
4:15 pm

dog gym dog schedule for your review.

Plan ahead. Few seats available. Call your ticker broker before heading to the Schmegman.

http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/w-gym/sched/geo-w-gym-sched.html

Rick James

November 20th, 2012
4:16 pm

@GTBob

If Tech goes to the Orange Bowl and UGA goes to the Capitol One bowl then did GT have a better season?
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Can you lose to Middle Tennesee St and BYU and say you had good season? Can your defense give up 40 plus points and say you had a goos season? I guess it depends on your standards.I do hope that Tech wont embarass the state and give up 70 points like Clemson last year.If Tech goes to the Orange Bowl maybe we will get lucky and the Orange Bowl will end it’s affiliation with the ACC

Buckeye

November 20th, 2012
4:17 pm

deez,

It’s like heroin. I needed another fix.

I feel better now.

I'm a Georgia fan. It's a license to be stupid.

November 20th, 2012
4:18 pm

Thats old history…I can go to Wikipedia to read about the past…football, nothing since 1980…baseball, nothing since 1990…basketball, hahahahahaha…again, you contribute NOTHING!..if not for the chick country club sports, the trophy case would be empty…

hit a single

November 20th, 2012
4:19 pm

I hate it for Derek Dooley. He may have been too good for that program. Plus any Coach that only gets three years shouldn’t take the job anyway. He went in and got rid of some thugs that other coaches wouldn’t have had the guts to. Ga. State needs to hire Derek Dooley. He built the program at La. Tech and Tenn. will see his contributions in the years to come.

GTBob

November 20th, 2012
4:19 pm

I wouldnt be talking about waste since your Athletic program is in the red and your AD ran away

Most athletic programs are in the red. If your athletic program is operating under a huge surplus then you are actually doing a very poor job managing it.

Rick James

November 20th, 2012
4:20 pm

Sorry..I meant can your defense give up 40 plus points in five games and say you had a good season?

Hate Lizards (gators) and Bees (GT)

November 20th, 2012
4:21 pm

He can go to GT!!!!!!!

GTBob

November 20th, 2012
4:21 pm

Can you lose to Middle Tennesee St and BYU and say you had good season?

Apparently good is measured in accomplishments. We have a chance to win the conference and a BCS bowl game. Actually I would say we have a better chance of making a BCS game than UGA does.

Gman

November 20th, 2012
4:22 pm

Derek Dooley was as bad a hire as Ray Goff… NUFF SAID!

Buckeye

November 20th, 2012
4:22 pm

Review my buckeye.

Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville

November 20th, 2012
4:22 pm

I’m a Georgia fan. It’s a license to be stupid.

I guess you must be stupid then since UGA has won a couple of SEC championships since 2001 and 5 SEC East championships

Played in the National Title game in baseball

Rick James

November 20th, 2012
4:22 pm

GTBob

Maybe we will reciprocate by donating some money to the UGA endowment so that maybe in time it can grow to half as large as GTs. Nah, nevermind, you guys would waste it.
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Do brag about Tech having money Bob..The only reason Paul Johnson has and will keep his job is because the school cant afford the buyout.

ugafancolumbusga

November 20th, 2012
4:22 pm

derek should have been given more years to improve the tenn team, the whole football department was in shambbles to begin nnnnnnnnnnnn with.. totally unfair. god has plans for d.dooley .. things will be bright for him before long… go dawgs , get ga tech down….

I'm a Georgia fan. It's a license to be stupid.

November 20th, 2012
4:23 pm

Guess when the past is all you have, you better talk it up! Surprised we don’t hear more Maryland fans bragging about the 1953 championship they won…or Minnesota’s 4 titles they won last century…

Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville

November 20th, 2012
4:24 pm

Bob writes

“Actually I would say we have a better chance of making a BCS game than UGA does”

Says a lot about how pathetic the ACC is when a 6-6 team gets to go to a BCS game ;)

Rick James

November 20th, 2012
4:26 pm

@GTBob

Apparently good is measured in accomplishments. We have a chance to win the conference and a BCS bowl game. Actually I would say we have a better chance of making a BCS game than UGA does
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Only because Santa came early to North Ave dressed as the University of Miami.You have less of a chance to back into a BCS bowl than Georgia has of earning it..

Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville

November 20th, 2012
4:26 pm

I’m a Georgia fan. It’s a license to be stupid.

I gave you a recent past and we are playing again for the SEC championship

Do you even know what past means

UGA BOY

November 20th, 2012
4:26 pm

GT BOB
Go tend to your 19 cats running around your mothers house and get your own place some time soon (YOU ARE A LOOSER)

UGA38 Nerds17

coach dooly very classy we wish you well

I'm a Georgia fan. It's a license to be stupid.

November 20th, 2012
4:26 pm

that is an impressive list patched…not…no, you won in 2001 and 2005 when everyone else was down…the Georgia way…if backing in isn’t available…

Cdpridg

November 20th, 2012
4:27 pm

When the lid closes Saturday all you will hear is a faint buzz and a light tap on the glass…gt football..lol

Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville

November 20th, 2012
4:28 pm

I’m a Georgia fan. It’s a license to be stupid.

Oh I guess #3 LSU was down in 2005

Alphare

November 20th, 2012
4:29 pm

UGA Boy,

LOOSE, LOOSER, LOOSEST
GOOD, GOODER, GOODEST

GTBob

November 20th, 2012
4:30 pm

Says a lot about how pathetic the ACC is when a 6-6 team gets to go to a BCS game

Yeah, the SEC is much better when their teams only have to play 2 decent teams all season, get completely embarrassed by one of them and still make the championship.

Xiaoming "Rusty" Huang

November 20th, 2012
4:30 pm

Derek Dooley aside, Tennessee has some heavy lifting to do to get its football program back in order. It just wasn’t a good fit for him or UT from the start. I do agree with “hit a single” that GSU could benefit by hiring him.

I'm a Georgia fan. It's a license to be stupid.

November 20th, 2012
4:30 pm

yeah, but West Virginia wasn’t…yet another example of the uga-choke syndrome…no crystal, no respect…

Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville

November 20th, 2012
4:31 pm

Buckeye

The Big 10 adds two more powerhouse teams to their tough 2 team only conference

I tell you the Big 10 is something to be feared

GTBob

November 20th, 2012
4:33 pm

Do brag about Tech having money Bob..The only reason Paul Johnson has and will keep his job is because the school cant afford the buyout.

There is no chance CPJ would be fired even if his contract was up this year. Sure we don’t want to pay him 10 million not to coach but if we had to then we would find a way.

ReaderRick

November 20th, 2012
4:33 pm

Just think; If UGA wins the National Championship, that will give them 2 NCs. Just 2 short of Georgia Tech.

Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville

November 20th, 2012
4:34 pm

Bob

LOL

Tech hasnt even played a decent team all year until this Saturday

Xiaoming "Rusty" Huang

November 20th, 2012
4:37 pm

GTBob, serious question… Are you pleased with CPJ’s resume at Tech? By keeping him as your HC do you think the future holds something different than what he has or has not accomplished to date?