
Vince Dooley's joy for Georgia's resurgence took a hit with his son's firing. (Brant Sanderlin/AJC)
On Sunday, when everybody associated with Georgia football was still basking in the afterglow of the season’s 10th victory and the anticipation of a dramatic flip at the top in the BCS standings, the Dooleys of Athens received a phone call from their son, Derek.
“I knew it was going to happen,” Vince Dooley said. “I felt for sure it was going to happen. Then on Sunday when he contacted us and told us, it was difficult. You hurt for your family. You hurt for your son.”
Seldom do the extreme highs and lows of competitive athletics collide like this.
Dooley hired Mark Richt and watched him win two SEC championships in his first five seasons. He saw the program slip back for a couple of seasons and Richt try to navigate through “crises” while four other SEC schools won six national championships and so many called for the coach’s head. Now the Bulldogs are more than relevant again. A second consecutive SEC title game berth awaits, a No. 3 national ranking provides a tease for something even greater and Richt has been listed as a national coach-of-the-year candidate.
“Coaching has always been about surviving a series of crises,” Dooley said Tuesday. “In Mark’s case, he had a charmed life. He didn’t have a lot of criticism until a couple of years ago. So I’m very pleased to see how he’s responded to that. He needed to right the ship and get back to the high standards again, and he’s done that. That doesn’t mean he won’t have another series of crises to deal with again one day. He will. Because once you get up there, you’ll always have crises.”

Derek Dooley told Vince that coaching the final game would be a distraction for the team. (Brant Sanderlin/AJC)
Tennessee allowed Derek Dooley three years of crises, then they fired him. It didn’t matter that the program was in a crises when the younger Dooley was hired. Lane Kiffin had bolted, and the school pointed to a burning building and told Dooley, “Fix it. Fast.” That was too great a feat for any coach to accomplish, let alone one making the leap from Louisiana Tech to the SEC, his genes notwithstanding.
But Vince Dooley understands the reality of coaching today: A man doesn’t go 4-19 in the SEC at programs like Tennessee and survive.
“I knew the situation,” he said. “They came very close in some big ballgames that unfortunately they didn’t win. I know [Tennessee athletic director] Dave Hart personally. He anguished over this. But in light of the situation I understand the decision. Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech in his first six seasons had 24 wins and 40 losses. In his sixth year he won two games. But until this season he was one of the winningest coaches in football. Coaches don’t get that
kind of time any more.”
Dooley said he had only one question for his son: Why was he not going to coach Tennessee’s final game at Kentucky?
“Derek said he requested that because he felt he would be distraction,” Dooley said. “He said all of the speculation about his job was a distraction before the Vanderbilt game and he felt that hurt the team (a 41-18 loss), so he didn’t want that to happen again. Once he said that, I admired his decision. I felt it was important to get that out because it’s not like they didn’t want him around.”
Barbara Dooley has taken firing the hardest, Vince said. (Hyosub Shin/AJC)
Anybody close to Georgia football knows how much Vince and Barbara wanted their son to succeed. Dad would catch Tennessee’s game on television in press boxes around the SEC while traveling with the Bulldogs. Mom attended games in Knoxville, dressed in orange. When the schools met, Barbara never was conflicted.
“That’s my baby, and I’m pulling for Tennessee. If the Georgia people don’t understand that, then I just don’t get it,” she once said.
Barbara politely declined to speak Tuesday.
“It’s been difficult, especially on my wife, who takes things harder than I do,” Vince said. “That’s her baby. I told her it will take a while for the pain to go away. She’s hurting more than [Derek]. He’s handling it better than she is.”
Three more victories would heal a lot of wounds. Georgia has three games left: It’s a local rival (Georgia Tech), the SEC championship (Alabama) and a bowl game (in the Utopian experience of two more wins, it’s the BCS Championship game in Miami).
Dooley has been down this road before. He knows Richt is concerned that players’ minds might be on matters not related to the Georgia Tech game. That’s a danger, regardless of what the fans, the alumni, the media and the oddsmakers say.

Dooley, who hired Richt, happy that the coach has "righted the ship" at Georgia. (Joey Ivansco/AJC)
“Back in 1980 when we were undefeated before the Georgia Tech game, I had a player from the 1927 team talk to the players how they were in the same situation and ended up losing to Georgia Tech in the final game,” Dooley said. “It can happen — it has happened. You have people see that Tech maybe doesn’t have the direction Georgia does and you find yourself looking beyond this week, and that rubs off on players. As a coach, that worries you.”
With Vince Dooley, you always get a story. If it’s not about the Georgia team that went 9-0 in 1927 before losing to Tech 12-0, it’s about Charley Trippi coming back from World War II in 1945. Trippi was invoked when Dooley was asked about the Dogs’ early-season struggles with injuries and suspensions, even after four players returned.
“When Charley Trippi came out of the military, all the players expected he was going to be some Superman, and when he came back the rest of the team just sort of watched him,” he said. “They played LSU, and they just annihilated Trippi. It took a while for that team to respond to crisis. But they eventually did, and so did this team. I know it was devastating playing South Carolina and laying an egg there, and then playing poorly at Kentucky, although I did that plenty of times. But going down and beating Florida was big, and now here they are. I’m really pleased for the whole program and particularly for Mark, since [hiring him] was one of my last decisions.”
He’ll try to focus on that and let time heal everything else.
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467 comments Add your comment
hahahaha
November 21st, 2012
11:29 am
Ha ha ha. Things Vol fans say often – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAplMhlP2Ok
Dereck Dooley
November 21st, 2012
11:33 am
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3Dogs
November 21st, 2012
12:23 pm
vince will make a couple of calls and find derek another job, just like he did with tennessee and la tech–book it. Vince has connections. But, derek wants to spend his $5 million buyout first before working.
SEC Headlines 11/21/2012
November 21st, 2012
12:35 pm
[...] 6. Vince Dooley on son Derek’s fate; “I felt for sure it was going to happen.” [...]
ODawg
November 21st, 2012
12:41 pm
Nobody looks good in orange slacks…. well… maybe Rodney Dangerfield.
Just sayin.
The Real Deal
November 21st, 2012
12:58 pm
Patched Tire On I-95 in Jacksonville
November 20th, 2012
2:39 pm
GT Bob
At least people show up to a stadium almost twice the size of Bobby Dump
I mean you cant even fill yours in the middle of 5.6 million people
I live in Atlanta and can truly say that this statement is idiotic, the METRO Atlanta population is 5.6 million people, not the city of Atlanta itself, actually, there are only a few hundred thousand people actual living in the city of Atlanta. To be blaunt, only a handful of people within the South and West parts of town really care about the redneck dogs or the yellow jacks, this is the big city, despite how it may seem, no one really outside of the northern suburbs overall even cares about freakin college football……
hans kershaw
November 21st, 2012
1:14 pm
Dooly for the GSU job
Voyceofreason
November 21st, 2012
1:18 pm
Derek Dooley would be a great fit for Georgia State. Doesn’t mean they’d go after him or he’d come here, but it seems like it would be a smart move.
As for Tech and Georgia, if I was Richt and the Bulldogs, I wouldn’t sleep on Tech this Saturday. That’s a trap game waiting to happen, and virtually everything about it lines up for a Tech win. Including the fact that rivalries often produce unexpected results. The Jackets have scored 153 points during their current three-game winning streak, and Vad Lee’s emergence makes Tech that much more dangerous.
And while Georgia has had more success than Tech in recent years, all I know is my memories of Tech’s last national championship are a lot more vivid than they are of Georgia’s last one.
Voyceofreason
November 21st, 2012
1:20 pm
Make that 143 points. It’s not like I WENT to Tech or anything.
Atlanta
November 21st, 2012
2:04 pm
as a mother, I am with Barbara all the way…I would have worn bright orange every day for my son!
Welcome back home Barbara!
November 21st, 2012
4:26 pm
We have Barbara’s complete allegience again!!!!! Burn all that ugly orange Barbara!! They did your baby wrong.
In all seriousness though, how can anyone really feel sorry for coaches that get multimillion dollar contracts to start at a big time program and ALSO get multimillions to leave? Derek hit the lottery.
Pay me that kind of severence and I’ll be your best friend!
Welcome back home Barbara!
November 21st, 2012
4:29 pm
Vince has got cache for input on coaching hiring of the new KSU program….could it be Derek?
Derek can go back to lawyering….He negotiated a heck of a TN contract!
yep, it's me
November 21st, 2012
4:33 pm
TN blaming Kiffen for everything is like Dems blaming Bush for everything still.
At some point there’s gotta be accountability for the current bozo.
Sweet!
November 21st, 2012
4:44 pm
Derek was another Saban protege…..keep that truth in your minds. Saban and his coaches can be beat.
Thomas Brown
November 21st, 2012
10:31 pm
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Ohio State University
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Here is the national perception of Ohio State University :
Maurice Clarett : His rap sheet at Ohio State University prior to being dismissed from the team consisted of filing a false police report, academic misconduct, tumultuous life outside of football, including his dismissal from Ohio State, several arrests, and later, imprisonment. He also had spats with coaches on the sidelines and got into a public war with school administrators over various issues. Led Ohio State University to a national championship in 2002, when Ohio State University football players were selling their uniforms to a tattoo parlor for tattoos. There were no sanctions for Ohio State University over any of this. Until now, and now we’re supposed to look the other way and hand them the AP Poll because – well – the AP Poll voters (press) are supposed to IGNORE than Ohio State University has had all these advantages in order to build all these teams for a DECADE. It started with Maurice Clarett in 2002 and continued until their NCAA Probation 2012. And, of course, Ohio State University covered it all up. This is why Jim Tressel was fired.
He was seen yelling at his position coach during the Northwestern – Ohio State University game in the 2002 season. In December 2002, he publicly criticized OSU officials for not paying for him to fly home for the funeral of a friend. Maurice Clarett accused administrators of lying when they said he had not filed the necessary paperwork. In July 2003, Maurice Clarett became the center of an academic scandal when a teaching assistant told the New York Times that Clarett had received preferential treatment from a professor. Duh.
Maurice Clarett had filed a false claim that more than $10,000 in clothing, CDs, cash and stereo equipment were stolen from a car he borrowed from a local dealership in September 2003. Athletic Director Andy Geiger stated at the time that Maurice Clarett also took special benefits totaling approximately $20,000. There were no sanctions for any of that either. Maurice Clarett repeatedly misled investigators. Clarett later pleaded guilty to a failure to aid a law enforcement official.
Maurice Clarett signed with an agent before being denied the opportunity to join the NFL Draft, and the NCAA refused to reinstate his college eligibility on a number of grounds.
4.82 Maurice Clarett put up for his Combine 40-yard dash, and just up and quit the Combine at that point. He actually then asked Ohio State University, who refused to allow him to take part in a private workout for pro scouts in Columbus because it wanted to avoid a circus situation.
Maurice Clarett was drafted in the 3rd Round, and was released on waivers on August 28, 2005, only a month after signing his contract with no guaranteed monies. He never played even a single down in the NFL. Other teams could have claimed him and taken on his contract, then he was freed from that contract and was able to negotiate with any team, but no team expressed interest.
As his college and NFL careers tanked, The Miami Herald reported in September that Clarett was already $1 million in debt from legal fees for his fight with the NFL and other costs. They also reported that Clarett turned down the traditional signing bonus in the originally proposed contract from Denver wanting incentives that would get if he ran 1000 yards multiple seasons.
I am not even going to get in to all his arrests, mental health evaluations, police chases, guns, robberies, or his prisons.
Thomas Brown
November 21st, 2012
11:01 pm
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Ohio State University
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Talk about Ohio State University. Talk about Ohio State University. Where is Ohio State University ranked in the AP Poll. I’ll be back in a minute, buckeye warns us, leaving to go see where Ohio State University is ranked, forgiving them of what they have done.
Archie Griffin – 2-time Heisman Trophy Winner, never did a thing. In the NFL, he ended up 3rd string tailback on his team. One season he got nearly 690 yards rushing. I mean wow. # 24 NFL draft selection of the Bengals.
Vernon Gholston – New York Jets took a flyer on with the # 6 pick in the NFL Draft. Vernon Gholston made 34 tackles over 3 seasons and out of the NFL.
Art Schlichter – started 6 games losing all 6, never completed even half his passes, gambling issues led NFL to kick him out of NFL, let him back, more of the same, and ticket fraud. Currently serving 10-year prison sentence after being selected with the # 4 overall NFL Draft pick by the Baltimore Colts.
Exactly 1 year ago today, Ohio State University tailback Jaamal Berry was arrested and charged with misdemeanor assault and disorderly conduct after police say he punched a man in the face and then bragged about it.
According to a list compiled by The Associated Press, 20 Ohio State players were arrested or faced disciplinary action for rules violations between Tressel’s hiring in 2001 and 2005.
A number of the arrests were alcohol-related, but one player pleaded guilty to robbery, and another pleaded guilty to felony charges related to drug and gun possession. Two others were suspended after being charged with marijuana trafficking and passing fake in-house currency at a strip club.
Tressel may wear a sweater vest, but that doesn’t mean he tolerates such thuggery. Quarterback Troy Smith, who this season brought Ohio State its seventh Heisman Trophy, was convicted of misdemeanor disorderly conduct after a 2003 fight in a campus parking lot, where, a woman reported, her jaw had been broken.
Ohio State University is known as well as a group who think they are special putting THE in front of Ohio State University, while most of their fans are bandwagon fans who have little to no affiliation with the school what so ever. But, we are supposed to talk about them in here. Insisted we discuss Ohio State University.
buckeye – happy ?
This is what Ohio State University is, and it is the perception of Ohio State University nationally. And, you run in here on the UGA blogs to demand we discuss it.
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November 24th, 2012
12:50 pm
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