Radakovich’s exit shows disparity between Tech, Georgia
The financial issues that Dan Radakovich dealt with at Tech won't be an issue at Clemson. (AP photo)
It’s almost always about money. There may be other factors in changing jobs: Going back home, returning to an alma mater, or, as Dan Radakovich said Tuesday, having the desire to “get into a collegiate environment. I hadn’t had the opportunity to be in a pure college town.”
A nice sentiment. But primarily it’s still about the money, either what one can make or one can spend.
When Radakovich resigned from the athletic director’s job at Georgia Tech for the same position at Clemson, it said as much about his former employer than his new one. Radakovich won’t have to sell a ticket or plead with donors at Clemson, which is what he had to do at Tech. The pressure for victories and the chase for dollars is greater than ever in college athletes – too great, actually, but that’s a topic for another column – and right now Tech just isn’t all that attractive.
Radakovich won’t say that. But he’ll use words like “challenges” and “difficulties.” He was weary of trying to get people to “jump off the connector” in hopes he could alter their perceptions of what the metro campus looked like. He won’t criticize Tech’s high academic requirements or limited number of majors, but he’ll amplify on the difficulty coaches have to convince recruits that the school can provide an “enriching” experience.
That’s why he was so driven to improve and add facilities. “Sometimes they [recruits] make their decision first with their eyes,” he said.
Here’s the problem: While Radakovich denies also that the Tech AD position is a “steppingstone” job, relative to others in major college athletics, that’s basically what he just affirmed by leaving one ACC job for another, just two hours up the interstate. He is close with Clemson’s retiring AD, Terry Don Phillips, and had coveted the impending vacancy for several months.
Greg McGarity knows what drives Radakovich and what wears on him (or any athletic director). (Curtis Compton/AJC)
None of this bodes well for the perception of Tech on the college sports landscape, and we haven’t addressed the ever-present shadow cast by the beast in Athens. Georgia and Georgia Tech are different campuses with different missions. But they’re rival programs in close proximity of each other. The financial situations at the two athletic departments are at opposite ends of the spectrum.
According to the Equity in Athletics database, which tracks budgets of every collegiate athletic program, Tech’s sports teams had total revenues of $46,910,364 for the one-year period ending June 30, 2012. Georgia was nearly double that at $91,670,613.
Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity said he wasn’t surprised by Radakovich’s exit. The two have known each other for years and speak often. He knows what drives the man. “When he was at American University, he missed the bright lights of big-time college athletics,” McGarity said.
He also knows what can wear down an athletic director.
“The financial challenges to run a college athletic program are much more difficult at some institutions than others,” McGarity said. “When you have a strong fan base and full stadiums and when you have a tremendous level of support, it makes your job easier from a fundraising standpoint. Financial circumstances can be taxing mentally. You’re always worrying about where the next dollar will come from. It wears on athletic directors just as it wears on anyone. There’s a constant pressure.”
Radakovich was back in his Edge Athletic Center office Tuesday for some desk cleanout. Asked about the challenges of running athletics at the Institute, he didn’t hesitate: “Always looking at ways to get people to consistently come to the stadium and the venues. When we’re winning, attendance is good. When we’re OK, attendance is OK. When we’re not winning, attendance falls. The challenge is to create a bigger core. We tried a lot of things to get that to happen.”
Some have characterized Radakovich’s decision to leave as “jumping ship.” That’s overstatement. Tech isn’t in financial straits. The football team, while struggling, isn’t devastated. But his departure is a reality check for the school.
Radakovich tries to minimize Georgia comparisons, saying, “The comparisons aren’t fair because the schools aren’t chartered the same, and they don’t have the same level of resources athletically. … Georgia has been up the street for the last 100 years. It’s a factor. It’s something that you have to manage each and every day. But it doesn’t make the list of why we do what we do.”
He was still saying “we” Tuesday. A day earlier, he was putting on a bright orange sports jacket at a news conference. “We” is past tense. And the jacket he put on Monday might as well have been green.
By Jeff Schultz
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Reality
October 30th, 2012
11:13 pm
SCHULTZ – respond to my last two posts?
Gus
October 30th, 2012
11:19 pm
Georgia Southern is a joke. They need around $5 million more bucks to build another company and to jump up to the big boys. Will need $5 million again for staff salaries and scholarships. Keel thinks good football brings more smart and better students. Keel has no clue about GSU’s academics.
ryan
October 30th, 2012
11:20 pm
There is another disparity here that rarely gets mentioned. The GT endowment is significantly larger than at UGA. Perhaps Tech could funnel some of that money to market sports.
islander
October 30th, 2012
11:22 pm
DRad’s comments says it all. “When we are good, there are no problems”. Problem is under his tenure we have gotten worse every year and just like his predecessor, he has saddled us with a contract that forces us to keep a coach who needs to be fired. The way for Tech to recover is to hire a BIG TIME FOOTBALL COACH WHO HAS HAD MULTIPLE SUCCESSFUL YEARS IN A MAJOR CONFERENCE such as The SEC or Big 12. Will this cost a lot of money? Absolutely? Will in bring in the right players? Absolutely. Hire another small college coach and we can kiss any hopes of ever being successful in football again. Keep CPJ and we may not win a game net year. What top ranked recruit would want to come to Tech to play for Johnson? None! Spend the money and hire someone like Saban or Myers and we can pick our players. Look what Urban Meyers has done in turning Ohio State around. You get what you pay for and bargain shopping for coaches (Hewitt and CPJ) rarely works and then you compound the situation by giving them outrageous contracts based on one year of performance. We are getting what our last two AD’s delivered and it sucks!)
GTBob
October 30th, 2012
11:23 pm
If the School of Management isn’t a place to hide football and basketball players then why are most of them there?
Because it’s slightly easier than the engineering majors which are some of the hardest programs in the country. Our undergraduate business degree is #37 program in the country, #13 among public universities. It is ranked 8th among all undergraduate business programs in the country in graduates starting salary, and 95% of the graduates had employment lined up after graduating. It recently got a 50 million dollar donation from an alumnus. This is where we “hide” our athletes.
Bumblers
October 30th, 2012
11:25 pm
Those Joe’s you put on the football field are athelete’s, GTBob? Defense looked like a bunch of zombies to me.
ignition
October 30th, 2012
11:28 pm
Enter your comments here
Bobo
October 30th, 2012
11:35 pm
I’m sorry, but I DO blame Radakovich for not cleaning up the mess he created. As is the case nowadays, money and selfish pursuits always trump doing the right thing. If I wasn’t somewhat glad to see him go, given the obvious deficit of personal character he just showed, I’d call him Benedict Arnold. Clemson can have fun with him. I’m sure he’ll extend another average coach (Dabo Swinney) for about 10 years and 50 million and handcuff them too.
Bobo
October 30th, 2012
11:36 pm
Here’s an idea for the next coach….How about Gus Malzahn, who is now stuck at Arkansas State?
ignition
October 30th, 2012
11:36 pm
Thanks GT Bob..
Im not even a Tech grad but I do have common sense and a BA in Business Administration concentration Finance degree which tells me that a lot of these guys probably never stepped foot onto a college campus. These comments about Atlanta being a cesspool or GT being surrounded by the “ghetto” (which includes Midtown to the east, Atlantic Station to the North, Centennial Park to the South, and Howell Mill restaurant district to the west) just shows their ignorance or just general lack of intelligence.
ignition
October 30th, 2012
11:37 pm
Bobo I agree or either Chuck Norris..
Delta Jacket
October 30th, 2012
11:37 pm
GT needs to look at Ole Miss as a shining example of who to hire as AD and who should be coaching their football program. Radakovich hired CPJ as an alternative to conventional football coaching… Doing something different than anyone else was doing, which worked out great for the first couple of years. Ole miss can’t compete with the big boys of the SEC all the time, so they hire hugh freeze. He’s essentially running Oregon’s offense and doing something completely different than anyone else in the SEC. Ole miss realized that to be able to compete in the SEC, they have to be different. GT tried with CPJ and it has been a huge failure. Not because of the offense, but because of the inept defense and the atrocious special teams…CPJ is a saint of his own circumstance. After 1 season, look at Hugh Freeze’s recruiting list and CPJ’s. That pretty much sums it up,. Stars mean something in recruiting. Period…
Delta Jacket
October 30th, 2012
11:39 pm
BOBO how bout HughFreeze? Dude is an animal….
get ur facts straight
October 30th, 2012
11:50 pm
Tech’s 2011 incoming freshman SAT score is only 140 pts ahead. However, UGA has 3 times the students and has students majoring in Fine Arts – music, drama, etc. Not to mention, UGA. Honors program students have higher SAT than Tech students. UGA also has a top tier law school (Tech does not have a law school), UGA is building a school of medicine despite Augusta politicians trying to stop it (Tech will not be getting a med school) and UGA is starting a school of engineering which will compete with Tech. 10 yrs from now, UGA will be recognized as the best college in the state, on the same level as UVA, and Tech will be on the same level as . . . Maybe Va Tech.
Randy Carson, IMGT '83
October 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
In case anyone ever doubts that the SEC enjoys some academic “advantages” for athletes when compared with the ACC, here is a comparison of the respective members of both conferences based upon US News and World Reports rankings (my apologies if the columns don’t translate to the post):
School Rank
ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE
Duke University 8
University of Notre Dame 17
University of Virginia 24
Wake Forest University 27
University of North Carolina 30
Boston College 31
Georgia Institute of Technology 36
University of Miami 44
Syracuse University 58
University of Maryland 58
University of Pittsburgh 58
Clemson University 68
Virginia Tech 72
Florida State University 97
North Carolina State University 106
Conference Average 48.9
SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE
Vanderbilt University 17
University of Florida 54
University of Georgia 63
Texas A&M 65
University of Alabama 77
Auburn University 89
University of Missouri 97
University of Tennessee 101
University of South Carolina 115
University of Kentucky 125
Louisiana State University 134
University of Arkansas 134
University of Mississippi 151
Missisippi State University 160
Conference Average 98.7
Now, how ’bout THEM doggies?
ignition
October 30th, 2012
11:59 pm
Randy,
That there says it all smh..
GTBob
October 31st, 2012
12:00 am
UGA is starting a school of engineering which will compete with Tech. 10 yrs from now
Yeah, good luck with that. It is going to take a lot more than ten years to create a top 5 engineering program. Is UGA top 5 in anything at all right now?
get ur facts straight
October 31st, 2012
12:04 am
GTBob, you truly are an idiot. UGA has one of the top law schools in the country. UGA also has one of the best journalism schools (ever heard of the Peabody, go look it up moron). UGA also has one of the best Vet Schools and Schools of Education). UGA also has one of the best history depts and political science depts in the country. Finally, Tech’s MBA program is only slightly ahead of UGA’s but both are top tier.
Randy Carson, IMGT '83
October 31st, 2012
12:05 am
@get ur facts
And why is the Board of Regents allowing UGA to expand into these areas while Tech is limited to engineering and management??? Any thoughts on WHY the state needs TWO engineering schools?
However, even if UGA does become Stanford of the East, it won’t change the fact that the diversity of majors at UGA enables less academically-gifted athletes to stay in school for four years whereas Tech has fewer places for them to hide. Consequently, Tech has a much smaller pool of student athletes from which it can recruit.
Finally, it never ceases to amaze me how much time and energy UGA fans spend responding to columns and posts about Tech. If we’re so completely irrelevant, why bother? Something tells me that you keep looking over your shoulders just in case…
Drexel Gal
October 31st, 2012
12:15 am
Do a “Google” image search, if you must …
No matter how successful Dan Rada-Moron is, and no matter how dignified he may try to act, in EVERY photo of him, he ALWAYS looks like a doofus.
GTBob
October 31st, 2012
12:21 am
get ur facts straight, you have some decent programs but you don’t have one of the top schools in any category. You law school is ranked 34th in the country. That is not really “one of the top programs in the country”. There is just nothing that you guys really excel at academically.
ignition
October 31st, 2012
12:36 am
GT Bob UGA is NOT top 5 ranked in anything..
Law 34
Education 38
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/undergraduate-teaching
Men lie women lie numbers don’t …
Please come with facts..
SJ Bobkins
October 31st, 2012
12:47 am
I think it might be interesting to compare the “Best Schools” rating of FBS schools or the upper half anyway, before making the pitch that one school is too difficult than another. I don’t know how this will come out but here goes:
8# Stanford
9# Duke
12# Northwestern
17# Rice
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
21# Cal-Berkely
24# UCLA
USC
27# Wake Forest
29# Michigan
30# North Carolina
31# Boston College
36# Georgia Tech
41# Wisconsin
44# Miami
46# Penn St
Illinois
Texas
51# Tulane
54# Florida
56# Ohio St
58# SMU
Syracuse
Maryland
Pitt
63# UCONN
Georgia
65# Purdue
Texas A&M
68# BYU
Clemson
Rutgers
Minn
72# Mich St
Iowa
Virginia Tech
To me it gives credit to a school who schedules decent universities with good football programs, which certainly includes Tech, rather than playing the pitiful schools that aren’t even glorified high schools. The ACC has a lot of good universities along with football schools. The SEC or Big 12 not so much.
SJ Bobkins
October 31st, 2012
12:49 am
Sorry guys, I didn’t see that Randy had done the same thing making the same point
CPJ: A Legend In HIs Own Mind
October 31st, 2012
2:01 am
It’s so clearly obvious that DRad is running away from the horrible job he did at GT….And he’s simply overwhelmed that another school besides GT would actually hire him as a full-time AD.
From the Tuesday AJC:
Radakovich spoke of his first visit to a Clemson football game as an athletic administrator at Long Beach State in 1990… “I remember thinking, ‘This is a place that I want to be.’”
LOL…You’ve GOT to be freakin kidding!! He “knew” 22 YEARS ago that his ultimate career destination would take him to none other than CLEMSON, SC??!!?
Truth is he was a complete DISASTER as GT AD and he knew it. We should all rejoice that he finally packed it in and moved his family from the thriving Metro Area to the gawdawful backwoods of South Carolina. Lateral move? Not even….
FACT: As a PUBLIC INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION, Clemson isn’t even spoken of in the same conversation as Georgia Tech. In fact, Clemson and Auburn are the places GT flunk-outs go to get an Engineering Degree….And Auburn is generally ranked higher than Clemson.
Yeah, he’ll have a full stadium and the FUGLIEST purple & orange uniforms ever created….But it’s STILL Clemson University, in Clemson, SC. And anyone who aspires to end up in Clemson as the pinnacle of his career, well….deserves Clemson as much as Clemson deserves an incompetent boob like Radakovich.
My money says by the end of the decade he’s donning an Ole MIss BLUE jacket at a hiring press conference and talking about how as a young boy of 8 yrs old, he dreamed of one day running the Athletic Dept of a true SEC powerhouse school like Ole Miss.
Radakovich = Poser = Good Riddance
Coach
October 31st, 2012
2:16 am
Plua D Rad won’t have to deal with the Paul Johnson preception. Things are going down hill and like you Jacket I’m concerned, I don’t know about the President. It is sad how many GT people don’t want to do what it takes to compete in bigtime FB. Will GT hire another Braine, who is scared of CPJ, openly markets this is the best GT can do, settles for the middle of the road program. Truthfully GT under CPJ needs to apply for a FB League consisting of Rice, Tulane, Northwestern, the Ivy League schools, Navy, Army, Air Force, Furman and William and Mary.The Academic League and create the We do things right Bowl.
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
2:59 am
“Georgia and Georgia Tech are different campuses with different missions. Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity said he wasn’t surprised by Radakovich’s exit.”
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Yeah, we have different missions all right. We want to graduate our student-athletes and not to be on NCAA Probation in Football, especially back-to-back as Georgie tek is October 31, 2012.
Dan Radakovich and Paul Johnson, together, by themselves put Georgie tek BACK on NCAA Probation in Football, and BOTH have FAILED to graduate Georgie tek’s student-athletes.
The latest report by the NCAA did in Dan Radakovich, who came here from LSU and leaves for Clempsum farmers. Yeah, that’s a step up. Uh huh.
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
3:27 am
The other salient point Dan Radakovich made is that Georgie tek doesn’t win, and frankly as long as you beat Georgia in Football one-time in the now dozen years our coach has been here, that’s just fine with Georgie tek fans (both of them.)
2 hot dogs 2 Coca-Cola bag of peanuts and a free parking pass and the only seasons’ tickets you sell in a city of 6 million are to UGA fans, who throw them all away except for our game.
Middle Tennessee state college – good heavens’ above – they lost in football 2012 to McNeese state college and lost to Louisiana – Monroe, but not to Georgie tek.
By direct comparison, # 6 BCS UGA beat then # 2 BCS Ranked Florida.
Thus, UGA is in the discussion of BCS National Championship Game and SEC Championship Game which this newspaper seems to forget is here in Atlanta since 1994, like they forget Georgie tek is on NCAA PROBATION in FOOTBALL back-to-back repeat violators of the Major Infractions Database thanks to Dan Radakovich and Paul Johnson.
How convenient.
Home town boys, after all, eh ?
Should support them the AJ-C has repeatedly stated.
Never mind that 10 times the number of UGA grads buy the AJ-C than Georgie tek grads.
Confused mission of the paper.
Georgie tek is not the only group struggling, you know ?
And, both for the very same reasons.
Poor decisions at the top with no relevance to their fanbase.
So, here we sit November chill coming-in, football championships coming-up, and Georgie tek has their AD either forced-out for NCAA Probation he caused with Paul Johnson and latest student-athlete NCAA Graduation Reports, or quit over that and Paul Johnson having to fire Al Groh as scapegoat.
UGA on the other hand, is # 6 in the BCS with # 1 and # 5 playing each other Saturday night to earn the right to play us, we with a win over then # 2 Florida and the winner of that game a win over the other. The Winner to play for The SEC’s 7th National Championship in a Row.
Sad really.
Dad used to take me to games at Georgie tek all the time. Back then, the stadium was twice the size it is now, not that you can even count the number of seats correctly remaining after you blew-up half of it. Dad told me to go to UGA. That I would find far more in this state who would interact with me here in business with UGA degrees. And, that it would be better for me, and safer.
And, your men’s basketball team, good heavens – what atrocious graduation rates.
And, of course the Georgie tek Men’s Basketball Program is also on NCAA Probation, not that an article about Dan Radakovich would bother to point that out, either, even in passing.
If it were UGA, this would be the AJ-C headlines : UGA, on NCAA Probation in Football and Men’s Basketball 2012 (again) has AD quit over latest NCAA Graduation Reports.
Dan Radakovich, has quit Georgie tek for a better school : Clempsum Farmers while football and men’s basketball programs struggle. Meanwhile, actually quicker for AJ-C reporters to get to UGA than to Georgie tek in time, Georgia faces a tough-test against SEC West foe at Georgia Dome against the winner of # 1 Alabama and # 5 LSU for the right to represent The SEC in the BCS Title Game The SEC has Won 6 consecutive times and counting.
Oh, and UGA graduates their student-athletes better and isn’t on NCAA Probation and has not been. And, is # 6 in attendance nationally and # 6 in recruiting nationally and # 6 in the rankings nationally.
Glad I’m not a Georgie tek grad. This is embarrassing.
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
4:26 am
What Georgie tek should do, reading all these 268 posts about it – none even mentioning it – is to offer more courses. You’re too limited for me. Rocks for Jocks isn’t my cup of tea. I’d like to be well-rounded and for college to be the best years of my life. 55 % women at UGA certainly is great by direct comparison to what ? 29 % ? You students are it seems to me more from foreign countries than women from here; so, I guess they leave the U.S.A. ? Is that why I don’t see them in business, since GT Boob says that Georgie tek’s business school is so much better than UGA’s. Uh, excuse me :
55 % NCAA Federal Graduation Report 4-year avg thru 2011 Football UGA
47 % NCAA Federal Graduation Report 4-year avg thru 2011 Football Georgie tek
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43 % of 62 Black Football players FSR Football Georgie tek
58 % of 20 White Football players FSR Football Georgie tek
53 % of 60 Black Football players FSR Football UGA
56 % of 22 White Football players FSR Football UGA
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28 % Baseball Georgie tek
39 % Baseball UGA
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23 % Men’s Basketball Georgie tek
33 % Men’s Basketball UGA
NCAA 4-Year Federal Graduation Success Rates 21 June 2012
Excuse me Georgie tek, aren’t these the Three (3) Sports you come running in here to talk about ?
1. Top Left Hand Corner, select Division 1 Graduation Success Rates
2. Click from pull-down School Georgie tek
3. Click from pull-down Year 2010-2011 latest year
4. Make no other selections so as to see all sports
5. In other words, leave conference, sport and state blank
6. Click Search
7. Top right hand corner, press FGR Federal Graduation Rates
8. It sorts then all sports at Georgie tek by Federal Graduation Rates
9. Read sport # 1 worst at Georgie tek : 23 % FGR men’s basketball
10. Read sport # 2 worst at Georgie tek : 28 % FGR baseball
11. Read sport # 3 worst at Georgie tek : 47 % FGR Football
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Business Majors still make up over two-thirds of all Georgie tek football players
Since almost every Georgie tek football player is a management major, an examination of the comparison with UGA Terry School of Business is in order :
1st to found undergraduate business program : UGA
1,241 Georgie tek total full-time undergraduate business
2,341 UGA total full-time undergraduate business
51 % percentage graduate within 4 years Georgie tek business
93 % percentage graduate within 4 years UGA business
66 % percentage graduate within 6 years Georgie tek business
98 % percentage graduate within 6 years UGA business
BS Georgie tek
BBA UGA
72 % white Georgie tek
77 % white UGA
61 % percentage of applicants who enrolled Georgie tek business
99 % percentage of applicants who enrolled UGA business
No business students grouped in learning communities Georgie tek
Yes business students grouped in learning communities UGA
55 average class size required business classes Georgie tek
56 average class size required business classes UGA
74 total business faculty Georgie tek
136 total business faculty UGA
61 % percentage of total faculty that is tenured Georgie tek business
64 % percentage of total faculty that is tenured UGA business
Top 3 leading areas of study Accounting Finance Marketing Georgie tek
Top 3 leading areas of study Accounting Finance Marketing UGA
7 % percentage full-tuition scholarships Georgie tek business
67 % percentage full-tuition scholarships UGA business
$ 19,294 outstanding mean debt at graduation Georgie tek business
$ 15,716 outstanding mean debt at graduation UGA business
164 companies recruiting business students on campus Georgie tek
671 companies recruiting business students on campus UGA
86 companies recruiting for internships on campus Georgie tek business
425 companies recruiting for internships on campus UGA business
19,640 business graduates since inception Georgie tek
54,336 business graduates since inception UGA*
* = me
http://www.uscollegeranking.org/business/top-100-undergraduate-business-school-ranking-in-2012.html
# 50 Georgie tek Business School Rank 2012
# 57 UGA Terry School of Business Rank 2012
1257 Average SAT Georgie tek business
1258 Average SAT UGA business
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It’s just not what you admit.
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Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
4:48 am
Why don’t you just sell all your land and buildings in the slums down there and buy some fresh land somewhere else, and use all the monies from that which would be substantial, or would have been had you done when I told you to, and use those monies to offer more classes, invite more women, attract more of the 6 million here, give them scholarships, force your professors to teach the kids something instead of acting like the art of teaching is failing everyone and judge them based on their students’ abilities to graduate not their professors’ abilities to fail students, test the kids to find out if they learned the subject, quit acting like your # 1 Harvard as top national university when you’re # 36 instead, quit acting like you’re so elitist when you ‘re # 36, hardly the # 1 national university, have your campus located somewhere in a city of 6 million where you can protect your kids especially the Dad’s little girls, get away from downtown in the slums, get your campus somewhere where the 6 million can get to in the mornings for classes and where at night school the classes are safe, somewhere out in the open where you can fence it off and have an area for learning away from all the drugs down there, implement some policies to enforce students stay away from drugs, teach some subjects students want to learn about, stop trying to stop every other school in the state from offering engineering degrees which I told you then would not work that you could not prevent us from offering more engineering degrees ourselves too, recruit some athletes that represent the rest of your student-body instead of one group of students and a completely separate group of student-athletes not at all like the student body, make it fun at games, make it exciting, spend monies on real AD and coaches, tell students they will graduate instead of always flunk-out, give youngsters a fair shot at a degree to make them better citizens, tell donors to donate for a football stadium and start from scratch where people can drive to the stadium easily and quickly, quit with all the signage about sponsors and not about Georgie tek, distracting signage making it all the more difficult to drive on the – well, it’s not the connector Jeff Schultz, because the connector starts at Williams street where I-85 and I-75 used to end, then we drove through town and go back on down near where the stadiums are located now, attract students who want to live here and contribute to the city, stop quitting SEC conference so that you could not be sharing the Revenue The SEC shares every year – that one has to hurt to the core, do something anything that improves the image of the campus itself, have a campus – you know ? Have an area where when you are there, you know you are on the campus, do something about the drugs on the borders of your campus and the crime there on the borders of your campus by funding those locales to have finest police instead of trying to say this didn’t happen on our campus, spend your monies – not sit around like a bump on a log doing nothing but complaining, accomplish something, treat other sports programs as Good Sportsmanship – not to Hell With Georgia like my Daddy used to do.
In other words, fix it
Gurshall
October 31st, 2012
5:27 am
What Thomas brown said. It amazes me how many tech nerds blotch about how many students fail. It sounds to me that the profs can’t teach the subject matter. The idea is to learn. Maybe that’s why you nerds have such a hard time in the real world.
Bobito
October 31st, 2012
5:58 am
Better a good university that spends little on athletics than an athletic powerhouse that offers a mediocre education and produces mediocre research.
Bobito
October 31st, 2012
6:00 am
@Thomas Brown: Ga Tech is an awfully good engineering school, one of the very best there is on the planet. If you can’t get a good education there, the problem is yours, not the professors.
trueblueeagle
October 31st, 2012
6:01 am
GT needs a pretty boy coach like Mark R or an offense like Oregon to market the program. Some one or some thing so high school player want to come to Tech other than the school.
BBQ MAN
October 31st, 2012
6:05 am
fact is, Tech is an academic school that happens to have an athletic program and uga is a athletic school that happens to have an academic program
trueblueeagle
October 31st, 2012
6:07 am
Also Tech needs to become more like Auburn or Celsom by adding all those liberal arts schools that UGA has. That would help alot!
Booger
October 31st, 2012
6:44 am
USC, the real one in LA, as is UCLA, as is Stanford and Cal are all in cities like GT. Tallahassee is NOT an attractive town by any stretch of the imagination. FYI, there is so much poverty right at the doorstep of UGA it is embarrassing. It is what the fans want and are willing to pay for, in college, if you want it, you buy it. Ask Alabama and Auburn.
Booger
October 31st, 2012
6:50 am
Once again, Thomas Brown, Athens sits as much slum at the doorstep of UGA’s campus as Tech has, meth peddlers and crack heads and homeless people are all part and parcel of Athens campus life. It is not the garden of Eden here.
Rufus
October 31st, 2012
6:56 am
Technically Correct, you nailed it.
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
7:00 am
Maybe if you spent half as much time acting like you’re so smart, and did something about the complete utter mess your campus, athletic program, graduation rates, NCAA Probation and Won/Loss Record of your Football Program, you actually then would be doing something smart about this whole sordid mess you’re in.
And, make no mistake about it – Georgie tek is out of control.
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
7:04 am
Oh yeah right. Georgie tek doesn’t have any problems at all.
Gurshall
October 31st, 2012
7:10 am
The tech grads I have met are arrogant, immature, and think they know it all. Not a good combination. A class In life skills is needed.
Gurshall
October 31st, 2012
7:11 am
“acting so smart”. Lol, so true.
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
7:13 am
Bobito October 31st, 2012 6:00 am
“@Thomas Brown: Ga Tech is an awfully good engineering school, one of the very best there is on the planet. If you can’t get a good education there, the problem is yours, not the professors.”
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Hey, don’t tell me. Tell your football players. They’re the ones who cannot graduate.
Nor win football games; nor get anyone to come to the games; nor win a bowl game; nor make the poor school any money; nor win a Major Bowl Game since 1955; nor get anyone interested in coming there to get an education who can play football; nor do anything but be business undergraduates where you don’t do as well at that as we do at UGA either.
And, where are the pretty girls ? Won’t Daddy let them come down there for some reason, huh ?
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
7:23 am
Yeah, they’re acting so smart on this blog, as always too – all because their motto is some song approved by Georgie tek which goes – To Hell with Georgia, like my Daddy used to do.
Talk about a pervasive attitude of elitist snooty Poor Sportsmanship when everything there is out of control.
One would NEVER know Georgie tek is on NCAA Probation October 31, 2012, were it not for me every once in a while reminding them.
You want to begin, one of you, to explain what is so damn superior about all this ?
No. You want to IGNORE every word of this, even though secretly you read it and go : “Damn. Just damn. You know; he’s right.”
Nativebird
October 31st, 2012
7:25 am
Ha! So he left GT because he was “challenged” in how to get fans in the stadium when there losing? A you freaking kidding me? He DRAd…how about doing your job and produce a winning football team? How starting with THE job 1, don’t hire a losing football headcoach? How about hiring a head coach that is an elite recruiter? How about hiring a headcoach that doesn’t employ a field strategy popular and effect in 1928?
gee minitly folks, its not hard to figure out…it is hard to accomplish….but the good and smart ADs do it every day.
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
7:26 am
The only research they do at Georgie tek anymore, is to research how all the crimes happen there and how to stop it all somehow.
Like I said a long time ago, MOVE the campus out of there.
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
7:31 am
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“It sounds to me that the profs can’t teach the subject matter. The idea is to learn.”
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Exactly, truer words never said. You judge a school by how its professors can’t teach the dumb football jocks they recruited there a thing under the sun ? Or, you judge how hard the school is by FLUNKING-OUT THE ENTIRE FOOTBALL TEAM ? Which is it ?
Your football recruits are not suited for the purpose for which they were intended; professors either.
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
7:33 am
And, my how you try to cover things up.
Oh, don’t let that get out.
Thomas Brown
October 31st, 2012
7:37 am
The Daddies in this state don’t seem to have any problems whatsoever with having all their little babies at UGA, despite your elitist attitude that their little girls would be just fine down there in the slums, worried out of their little minds and getting flunked-out so the school can state how hard they are as a school.
That’s not education; and never has been.
That’s why we have 55 % women on our campus and you have 29 %.