Fan revolts out of control, one wanted to fight UGA player
Braves fans littered Turner Field with beer bottles after bad call. (Curtis Compton/AJC)
The Merriam-Webster’s dictionary defines fan as: 1) an enthusiastic devotee (as of a sport or a performing art) usually as a spectator; 2): an ardent admirer or enthusiast (as of a celebrity or a pursuit).
As with anything, definitions can often be broadened. The boundaries of this definition just seemingly shouldn’t stretch to home fans cheering when their quarterback crumbles to the ground with a concussion. Or throwing bottles and garbage on a baseball field, endangering other fans and players, in protest of an umpire’s call. Or egging and toilet-papering a home known to be rented by five college players out of disgust, merely because the team lost a football game. Or effectively challenging one student-athlete to a fight on Twitter.
Yes. One “fan” actually did that last week to Georgia’s Christian Robinson.
“There were all these people saying stuff about me on Twitter, it got personal,” Robinson, a senior linebacker, said about the aftermath of last week’s loss at South Carolina. “I had to start blocking people Sunday. I think I blocked about 30. One guy really started coming at me. I’m like, ‘Why are you talking to me like?’ Then he started giving me an address, saying, ‘Yeah, come meet me,’ and I’m like, ‘Are you serious?’”
So this is what it has come to?
That there is a lunatic fringe in sports fandom is not a revelation. In ancient times, a chariot race at Hippodrome in the year 532 CE, organized to raise support for overthrowing the emperor, ignited a riot that led to the deaths of 10,000 to 30,000 fans. But at least there was the backdrop of political and social issues.
A house rented by Christian Robinson (45), Aaron Murray (11) and three other Georgia players was egged and toilet-papered after a loss. (AP)
Lost perspective has reached moronic proportions. Kansas City Chiefs fans cheered last week when Matt Cassel was concussed because their team stinks, and they wanted Brady Quinn in the game. Chiefs linemen Eric Winston responded appropriately, saying, “We are not gladiators” and called it “sickening. It’s 100 percent sickening. I’ve never been so embarrassed in my life to play football.”
Hundreds of Braves fans threw bottles and garbage after an umpire botched an infield fly rule call in the Wild Card playoff game
Fans cheered when Matt Cassel went down with a concussion, and one teammate called it "sickening." (AP)
against St. Louis. The next day, when Chipper Jones was asked why he didn’t respond to a plea by fans for a curtain call following the final game of his career, he said he wasn’t aware they wanted him out there, then joked, “I thought they were still throwing bottles.”
Then there is what happened in Athens. A house rented by five Georgia players was egged and toilet-papered following the Bulldogs’ 35-7 loss at South Carolina. The masses vented on social media, particularly Twitter, some taking personal attacks on players.
As if perspective hadn’t already been lost, the idiocy became magnified when it was learned that the father of quarterback Aaron Murray — one of the home’s tenants, with Robinson — had been diagnosed with thyroid cancer and was about to undergo surgery.
“People can hide behind [fake screen names], especially when alcohol is involved,” Robinson said. “I understand people get emotionally involved. But you hope they realize that there are bigger deals in life than Georgia football, especially when you see something like what happened to Aaron’s father.”
The Athens police department will begin making frequent checks of players’ homes during road games. It’s sad that it has come to this, especially on a college campus.
Sports sociologist Jay Coakley, author of “Sports in Society: Issues and Controversies,” believes a number of factors have combined to embolden sports fans more than ever, including: a growing belief that they can affect the outcomes of games with crowd noise, increased ticket prices that grow their sense of involvement; and the growing platforms for their opinions, including message boards, blog commenting and sports talk radio.
“There is a sense of entitlement, but it goes beyond that,” Coakley said from his home in Colorado Springs. “It’s also a sense that you can get away with it. I don’t want to blame it all on talk radio, but those narratives have become pretty extreme. The boundaries for what’s acceptable and what’s not have been pushed, even to the point of egging the home of your own quarterback.”
When asked for a solution, Coakley said it would help if athletes, particularly on college campuses, were less sheltered from the public and allowed to make an off-the-field connection with fans. He added, “It also would be nice if somebody in the stands stood up and said, ‘This is is not acceptable.’ Point people out. Maybe the message would start to get across.”
The Athens eggers have not been caught. Robinson laughed when asked what he would like to see happen to them if they ever were brought to justice.
“I think if they ever get caught, just the public knowing who did that would be worse punishment than anything else,” he said. “They would be complete social outcasts. That would be enough.”
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phil
October 13th, 2012
11:44 am
But I will say this….
Poor sports team performance does not then make it okay to commit crimes, such as destruction of property, damaging property, throwing items on a field, attacking people or threatening to do so and so on and so forth.
We can be mad as hell, but that’s where it has to end in a civilized society with laws and rules. Otherwise, off to jail if caught.
ijag
October 13th, 2012
11:44 am
Anyone that says “some days you win and some days you lose” does not understand sports. That’s like saying “some people live and some people die” to family members that lost 100 year old relative to a heart attack and a 13 year old to a drive-by shooting. They are different. The losses by Braves and UGA Fri and Sat were not just “losses.” If you can’t figure that out, then you don’t understand sports. Both teams beat themselves…nothing is more frustrating (well, getting cheated is more frustrated…infield fly) and rightly calls into question commitment, mental toughness, preparedness.
penn
October 13th, 2012
11:46 am
I was at the Braves Wild Card game with my 17 yr old daughter. I hated to see the Braves lose and hated to see Chipper go but the fans throwing things was justified !!!!!!!!!!!! That game due to the umps was like a set up. I’ve been going to games for many years it’s always been a pleasent fun place to be so it’s not that we are just rowdy southern people. We had a right to be overly upset. I did not throw anything only because i did’nt think i could throw all the way to the field. To those who did WAY TO GO!!! Those umps need to retire. Joe Torre ump REALLY! Probly wanted us out so we would not go against the Yanks! The Wild Card 1 game needs to change. We need some replay rules like NFL. As for cheering an injury your team or not is not cool. We have to love our team win or lose. Stand by them don’t destroy there property.
phil
October 13th, 2012
11:48 am
Ken Stallings:
Interesting take but too generalized in scope for my tastes. Thoughtful though and thx for sharing.
5150 UOAD
October 13th, 2012
11:51 am
ijag
October 13th, 2012
11:44 am
……………………
This person is wrapped too damn tight for living. I bet this person is a Road Rage Shooting just waiting to happen.
ijag
October 13th, 2012
11:52 am
Also…tired of hearing about player’s twitter wars with fans. Most players live a life of luxury isolation (whether professional or on college campus). They don’t encounter opposing fans. They are surrounded by teammates. Even when they go into opposing stadiums, they spend most of the time in a locker room or sideline/dugout surrounded by security and teammates. Fans encounter opposing fans all the time…work, school, kid’s ballfield, mall, vacation, etc. We buy the shirts and gear…we wear it…we go into opposing stadiums filled with hostile fans…we sit in the bad seats with no security…we pay the high prices…we take the abuse…we defend our team…constantly.
How dare these players complain after a pathetic loss. We’re the ones that have to see the other fans. We’re the ones that have to put up with the ribbing. We’re the ones that have to put our team sweatshirts back on and answer all the questions about “last Saturday’s” game. Players go back to their protected environment. Don’t even pretend that a player has it rough. Fans have to put up with this garbage all the time.
Braves fan
October 13th, 2012
11:54 am
I was at the game last Friday. Other than it raining beer for the first time ever, no one was in danger of getting hurt. All bottles sold at the stadium are plastic, any aluminum cans sold have the tops taken off and if a fan could reach an outfielder when throwing their plastic bottle, then some team in MLB needs to sign them up right away. I did not take part in throwing anything, but I understand it when MLB once again puts another loop-hole in the playoffs (for more money no doubt) to allow a team that is 7.5 back of the wild card team to compete in the post-season and snatch an entire season all in 1 game. MLB has been putting money ahead of sport for the last 20 years and in such has thrown out the purity of the game. They looked the other way when they knew most of baseball was taking steroids so that the “long ball” would excite more fans and bring in more money. Then when confronted, they pointed the finger at the players and accepted no blame for the problem. Now they just dilute the performance of a teams entire season by allowing non deserving teams to compete in what used to be a coveted post season. Shame on the umpire for botching the call. Shame on the home plate umpire for not overturning it. Shame on Joe Torre for not overturning it in the 19 minutes he had to make the review and shame on MLB for allowing money to take away the purity of America’s pastime. Part of me was proud of the fans reaction. As Chipper Jones said “No one can say that Braves fans don’t care anymore”.
Billy Mumphries
October 13th, 2012
11:55 am
“People are STILL saying that the reaction of the Braves fans was warranted. It was a display of “passion”. BS!.”
Yes, I agree. Folks who claim they are proud that Braves fans finally stood up,well, I wonder where maturity and common sense went in hiding. It looked stupid and pathetic on TV. I am not immune from being a nitwit at times, but I’ve never had the urge to throw trash on a field of play and my attendance at major league sporting events goes back to the early 70s. Yes, the call was surprising to most, but the last thing we needed is for that Braves squad to stumble into the playoff with the way they were playing. It would have been an even bigger embarressment than the fans were on that infamous Friday night.
ijag
October 13th, 2012
11:56 am
5150 UOAD, You’re a bully. I’ve read your post’s before. You like to start fights and say things about other posters. Good luck with that…I’m out.
GT
October 13th, 2012
11:58 am
When I was a boy, early 50s our family had a party line phone, with neighbors. Some guy got on the phone and told my dad to get off he had to use the phone, real rude. My dad an ex Ga. Tech end, who I had never seen violate, was told by this guy to get off or he was coming down to our house and beat my dad up. Dad got a smirk on his face I can remember till this day and very articulately, no temper or loud voice, explained to this would be bully how to get to his house and he would be waiting outside in the yard for him. Then almost like he had won the lottery, taking me since I was maybe 4 and we were the only two in the house, out into the yard to meet our expected guest. My dad waited in that yard till it got dark and my mother made both of us both come in to supper. I think my dear old dad was depress for a week that guy didn’t show up, much to the amusement of my mother. I have a strong suspicion that would happen to Mr. Robinson.
john
October 13th, 2012
12:05 pm
Well, I would say that you, Mr. Schultz, are part of the problem also. You get on here and rant and rave (yes, it is true, no matter how you try to disguise it) and fuel fan anger. Basically, with all the opinionated talk show with has-been athletes spouting anything and everything, it’s no wonder the ‘fan’ has deteriorated into, basically, a bully…
Dan Schlossberg
October 13th, 2012
12:06 pm
Obvious solution to badly-behaved fans: stop selling beer in the ballpark. Stadiums finally got rid of smoking, the other health hazard, so it makes sense to put a total end to the saloon-like atmosphere and make baseball (especially) a family game again.
Motocross Survivor
October 13th, 2012
12:09 pm
Bobby wrote:
@Motocross Driver: My church (and it’s definitely a Christian church) uses the terms CE more often than AD. Times change. God is dynamic and has shown himself to be throughout history.
Not sure what this has to do with the current thread but I had to respond to it as I did not want Motocross Driver speaking for all Christians.
—————————–
The article he wrote made use of “CE” when talking about the Romans. Your church must be one of those churches that flows along according to politics, IOW church theology is dictated by popular politics. This is why people are leaving churches in droves.
mike
October 13th, 2012
12:13 pm
@ijag~I still disagree. You must not have ever played sports. In reality, yes, some days you really just don’t have your A game. The importance of the game is irrelevant in these cases. It does not mean there is a lack of effort. Sometimes you get on the field, be it softball, baseball, football, volleyball, it doesn’t matter. Your body doesn’t do what you want it to. It DOES happen. There’s nothing that can be done. And sometimes trying harder exacerbates the problem. You don’t just lose your athletic ability one day and regain it the next. You’re assuming that everyone on a team is clicking on all cylinders every time they go out on the field. That ain’t the way it works.
gator guy
October 13th, 2012
12:17 pm
Nice move, dawg fans. Nothing shows your lack of class like trashing your own team. No wonder your program has been second rate for so long. Exactly who was president when you last won a national title- Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln?
What a bunch of redneck losers!
Dennis
October 13th, 2012
12:17 pm
If you read this conversation on Twitter (before it was deleted), Robinson’s/Lynch’s responses were very different than what he claims
Nativebird
October 13th, 2012
12:25 pm
Muhammad Ali (founder), Ilie Năstase, John McEnroe, the Oakland Raiders, Mark Gasteneau, Deon Sanders, Dennis Rodman, to Brett Farve, Are but the few examples of the death of sportsmanship and the rise of this “me-ism”, the mass-accepted notion that Ability trumps Behavior which pervades today’s sports, and society in general. The idolization of these narcissists and those like them have created this environment. And we’re now surprised that the “fans” are any different? Little did we listen then that what our fathers warned us about regarding the continued acceptance of and celebrated perverse behavior. Going forward, we have no excuses. Long live Roger Goodell and his attempts for sanity in sports!
wxwax
October 13th, 2012
12:28 pm
I have no problem with throwing trash on the field in protest. Nobody gets hurt. And the message is sent loud and clear: you suck.
I was at a title boxing match three decades ago and the same thing happened, when the judges rendered a bad decision. Water bottles flew. I thought it was entertaining. And the officials were left in no doubt about he crowd’s sentiment.
So, nothing new about that. Old hat. Actually, ho-hum old hat.
The internet? Interesting psychological phenomenon.
Have you ever wanted to go through life with a superpower: the ability to read people’s thoughts? Well, now you can. Just read internet comments. The shield of civility vanishes and people let their id run rampant. The internet is what people are thinking before the super ego asserts itself.
It’s often vile. And it requires a superpower of a different kind to ignore it, which it what it demands.
Egging an athlete’s house? Wanna bet alcohol was involved? Idiots, but not a trend.
wxwax
October 13th, 2012
12:31 pm
@ Nativebird ,
I wonder what you would have thought of Babe Ruth’s lifestyle, had he lived in an era of mass communication?
wareagledawg
October 13th, 2012
12:31 pm
Don’t forget the Harvey Updykes of the world…
ricardus
October 13th, 2012
12:33 pm
Because of incidents such as the one at Turner Field Oct 5, some stadia don’t allow bottles or cans. All drinks are served in paper or styrofoam cups.
An on-field appearance with a PA mike by Freddie Gonzalez, Chipper, Jason and especially Hank Aaron would have done much to stop those ?few uncivilized people in the stands.
Dum-Bass
October 13th, 2012
12:36 pm
I can explain it all with one word. ALCOHOL !!!!!!!!!!!! (after all it is a drug)
Dum-Bass
October 13th, 2012
12:42 pm
“Dan Schlossberg”………….you are correct sir. I have not been to a Braves game for 5 yrs. now. The last time I went I took my grandson and there was a couple from AL sitting behind us who were both drunk by the 3rd inning. I overheard them discussing who was sober enough to drive back to AL. Hopefully they went to a motel. They were both obnoxious and rude and I told my grandson I was sorry and that would be my last game. These things that are happening now will continue until they get smart and ban all alcohol from all sports games.
kingdaddy
October 13th, 2012
12:52 pm
TechLB
Just trolls baby, just trolls…
kingdaddy
October 13th, 2012
12:56 pm
Thomas
Lighten up. You haven’t been a UGA fan in a long time. Only the trolls seem to agree with you. Now ignore me and just go away…
Delusional
October 13th, 2012
1:01 pm
Having a conversation with yourself on the blog kingdaddy?
Delusional
October 13th, 2012
1:02 pm
You can respond to yourself.
Dr. Phil
October 13th, 2012
1:06 pm
I have been attending SEC games since 1952. In high school, I sold drinks and programs at Grant Field, and I have a graduate degree from UGA. Georgia is a great school, in spite of Adams’ effort to mold it to his own cash cow.. In all of these years, I can say that UGA fans are the most fickle and ill behaved of any I have seen. It does not surprise me that Murray’s house was egged and rolled. But what kind of example has Richt set with his player arrests, unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, and tacky end zone dancing?
Jack P
October 13th, 2012
1:08 pm
I think that the ones who did the egging, if caught, should be executed by the “egg squad.”
Boo Boo
October 13th, 2012
1:15 pm
out of control fans is when a bad call by a soccer (football) judge means he is then killed in the parking lot as he tries to outrun his killers. When players are on steroids, elevating their playing level to lethal, and some think it okay to contract bodily harm on an opposing player, the fans become steroidal by osmosis. The answer to out of control fans is control the sports better. Control the players, coaches, and officials so the sports do not deteriorate into arena cage matches where all rules have been suspended, and the fans get to give the thumb down for the outcome.
Patrick
October 13th, 2012
1:15 pm
First, I would NEVER condone threatening or challenging players to a fight.
Also, I think it is awful to cheer someone getting hurt, especially with a concussion. It’s sickening actually that anyone would do that.
I don’t think it’s fair to include what happened in the Braves game in this article. First, Braves fans get blamed for not being passionate at all about the team. And now their being villanized for reacting to one of the worst calls in playoff history. I for one, am glad that at what happened. It shows that the fans care, that they really do care and have passion for their team. Even though it may be viewed as an ugly display of poor sportsmanship. I can say that I am proud of the fans for doing what they did.
and let’s face, this isn’t the first time that fans have thrown garbage on the field of a game. And it’s been done for calls that we not even close to as bad as the call that went against the Braves in that ridiculous 1 game playoff…if you beat a team in the standings over the course of 162 game season by as big of a margin as the Braves did…it is as unfair as the reason this extra “playoff team” was created, because it didn’t punish the wild card team enough. No system is perfect, but this was the worst idea in the history of sports for “expanding” the playoff system. It’s not extending the playoffs, it’s not allowing another wild card team. It is a JOKE and that is all it is. Even if the Braves would have won that game, I still think it was a terrible idea. Leave it to Bud to come up with something moronic like this. I hope the new commissioner has more vision and is as close to Bart Giamatti as possible
Ken Stallings
October 13th, 2012
1:16 pm
Fans are vital as a group. But, individually we are relatively trivial in the big scheme. Our vitality is as a group becasue through ticket sales, merchandise sales, and media sales, our money fuels the professional sports market. In colleges and high schools, there is somewhat the same relationship but the attachments to colleges and high schools is more significant due to being an alumnus and also having your own children attend the schools.
Individually, however, no fan makes the degree of time investment to match the athletes and coaching staffs. Buying a ticket and sitting in a seat is hardly a true sacrifice, especially compared to spending hours in practice, in self-training in the offseason, and game preparation. To asset any other understanding is to reveal a gross misunderstanding.
Beyond the money provided, the most significant influence fans have is to raise the noise levels and passion in the stadium, to influence the play on the field or court. Disrupting the game crosses the line and cannot be tolerated. The Braves lost their last game this baseball season. I love baseball and it is by far my favorite sport.
But, I was still able to go in the back yard and play catch with my two boys. I was still able to go to work and earn my pay in my chosen aviation profession. And, I was still able to go fly my own airplanes and rehack my instrument currency in my Cessna 310R. In other words, life went on, and those things truly important to me remained the same and I feel blessed to be in that position.
I may have left out one thing in my long-winded analysis written earlier. Same as people need freedom and self-accountability, they also need to focus on the truly important and never allow diversions and entertainment to become the central focus of their lives.
GFY
October 13th, 2012
1:26 pm
I say let the brave one behind the tweets in a cage with Christian…..that puke will never run his mouth again or eat solid food.
Joey
October 13th, 2012
1:35 pm
Jeff Shultz, playing the part of Dorothy, in the Wizard of Oz: “Lions, tigers, and bears, oh my! Lions, tigers and bears, oh my! etc, etc.
So a few, (southern) citizens in a country of 300 million get upset at sporting games and JS is mortified? A few points:
1) Metro-Atlanta ain’t really part of The South.
2) Yankees fans have throw stuff at players and umps for decades, including C-batteries, and GLASS beer bottles, and Cards fans sent death threats to an ump.
3) European soccer fans have trampled-to-death others in stadiums for what, 50 years?
4) While a despicable act, toilet paper and eggs have claimed how many human lives, now?
5) Just be grateful most irate folks in the US don’t strap on explosives and detonate them on MARTA, or drag other countries’ Ambassador’s dead bodies up and down streets.
Just a little perspective . . .
kerryb
October 13th, 2012
1:40 pm
I’m just as big a UGA fan as anyone else but I would have never thought of egging someone’s house or challenging them to a fight over a football game. Those people are idiots and EVERY fan base has them just ask Alabama.
kerryb
October 13th, 2012
1:46 pm
I also don’t know why people were blaming Christian Robinson for anything. Anyone that watched that game saw what happened. UGA’s inexperienced O-line finally caught up to us against one of the best D-line’s in the country.
Dawg Whisperer
October 13th, 2012
1:57 pm
It’s ridiculous for any group of fans to point fingers at the other lest we forget the goings-on (poisoning and shootings) in Alabama that make egg tossing look like a family picnic. It’s the culture we live in that places sports above people but that hasn’t changed since the advent of the Roman games (assuming you call life and death a game). When you change human nature, you change behavior (check your local Bible on the how-to).
Contractor
October 13th, 2012
1:59 pm
Well, not sure when people will learn their lesson when it comes to Twitter and Facebook, but they are problems waiting to happen and just give people more avenues to get into trouble and post personal stuff that no one else cares about. Get off Twitter and you won’t have to deal with the BS that you know comes with the territory of having an account. Sounds easy enough, otherwise, man up and deal with what comes your way.
Dawg Whisperer
October 13th, 2012
2:01 pm
Well, let’s try that one more time. I said…. you want real change in fan behavior, change human nature. Check your local Bible on the how to.
Trae
October 13th, 2012
2:09 pm
Hey Schultz, if it’s just a ball game, maybe we should stop reading your silly articles, too. They’re unimportant. We shouldn’t care. Right?
DawgDad
October 13th, 2012
2:27 pm
I see NO comparison between the Turner Field littering and these other incidents, and I’m quite offended you infer there is. Now, if somebody at Turner Field was actually throwing AT somebody then that’s just as sad and sordid.
The trashing of Turner Field was essentially a non-violent fan protest. The fans wanted to be heard (needed to be heard in this instance), and delaying the game was the means to the end. At the end, it was the FANS who restrainted the persistent litterers, with appropriate peer pressure. Leaving the game it was the same normal well behaved bunch of fans it always is.
I still haven’t gotten over the Braves apology for their fans. This will cost them money, I guarantee.
Trae
October 13th, 2012
2:30 pm
Well said, DawgDad.
DawgDad
October 13th, 2012
2:33 pm
“An on-field appearance with a PA mike by Freddie Gonzalez, Chipper, Jason and especially Hank Aaron would have done much to stop those ?few uncivilized people in the stands.”
A correction of that horrendous call would have precluded the entire incident, or virtually all of it.
Trae
October 13th, 2012
2:38 pm
It wasn’t just a couple of hundred. It was everyone. Grandmothers were tossing things if they were close enough.
SKB
October 13th, 2012
3:10 pm
Jeff Schultz inciting flame over a twitter?
Typical
NCDawg
October 13th, 2012
3:12 pm
Once again the lack of perspective really shows. We are a myopic society. We live only in the moment and have no thought for the future. We want everything now and patience is an expletive. EVERY fan base has it’s lunatic fringe. UGA fans are no worse than any other fans. We just live in a media smothered area that reports when any celebrity is headed to the restroom. These incidents are just a symptom of the society we live in.
I like to write in these blogs because it is my only outlet for my thoughts. But I would gladly say anything I put in writing to anyone else here in person. I am not ashamed of what I say. Using twitter to flay football players because they didn’t play the way you personally thought they should play is C-O-W-A-R-D-L-Y.
I hope someone flaps their big mouths about their cowardly deeds and they get nailed for it. The fans at the Braves game had the guts to do what they did in public. I don’t agree with tossing garbage onto the field, that’s just childish, but MLB really needs to start hearing the fans on issues like this. Maybe they would listen if we didn’t watch their national broadcasts or buy their merchandise. Not buying Braves tickets would only hurt the Braves so that would be out of the question. Just my 2 cents…
kingdaddy
October 13th, 2012
3:18 pm
Delusional
if you bothered to actually read the blog, you can see I was responding to two idiots. Now that I’ve addressed you, that would make three idiots…
kingdaddy
October 13th, 2012
3:25 pm
Delusional=Thomas Brown
Coo-Coo bird…
To the Nuts
October 13th, 2012
3:27 pm
Perhaps instead of writing “532 CE,” he should have written “the 18th of Sh”Vat, 4292″
catlady
October 13th, 2012
4:16 pm
Does anyone else think Mizzou is about ready to admit they are not SEC caliber, and that they are not located in the Southeast? They need to crawl back to the Midwest where they belong!