Al Groh’s problems at Georgia Tech weren’t pure ‘fantasy’
Al Groh's teaching methods, schemes failed from outset. (Johnny Crawford)
Al Groh was a mistake. He was Paul Johnson’s mistake. It took about 2½ years for the Georgia Tech head coach to realize that.
Groh, who had success as a defensive coordinator in the NFL but was a disaster at Georgia Tech from the outset, was fired Monday by Johnson, who has seen the Jackets regress since Groh’s hiring in 2010.
It’s not surprising Johnson would fire an assistant. He fired Groh’s predecessor, Dave Wommack, even after winning an ACC championship in 2009. He fired a coach (Groh) whose defense had given up 42, 49 and 47 points in the last three games, collapsed late in overtime defeats to Virginia Tech and Miami and allowed 510 yards in offense to Middle Tennessee State.
The stunning part is that Johnson did this now. I had been asked several times by readers over the past two weeks whether I believed Groh would make it through the season. My answer always was yes, simply because it’s so rare for college assistants to get fired during the year. Clearly, it had become an unworkable situation.
Groh can’t complain that he wasn’t given a chance. Johnson gave him more than enough rope, even while reaffirming before the season that the defense had to get better.
Let me take you back to 2010. Georgia Tech lost 28-25 to a Kansas team that a week earlier had lost to North Dakota State 6-3.
After the game, I asked how Groh how an opponent (Kansas) that had managed only one field goal in 12 possessions against North Dakota State could score four touchdowns against Georgia Tech.
He bristled. The response: “That’s fantasy football. I just deal with what happened today. … That’s not the game coaches play. Coaches play the game that’s played today. The rest is talk radio, those guys who have all the answers.”
The problem being, it wasn’t fantasy. It was real. If it was fantasy, Groh would still have a job. But his teaching methods did not translate well to players and the change to a 3-4 defense also was questionable, given the Jackets’ difficulty in recruiting that kind of personnel (particularly a big enough and good enough defensive tackle).
Johnson is trying to save a season that has spun out of control since an impressive early season win over Virginia. I don’t know that this will do it. But removing Groh certainly removes a problem. For the increasing amount of abuse Johnson has taken lately, it’s not like the Jackets have been losing games because of his offense.
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Coach Cool
October 8th, 2012
3:44 pm
Throw the ball coach. PLEASE!
JIMBOB
October 8th, 2012
3:45 pm
Yawn
Todd
October 8th, 2012
3:45 pm
Last
Maryland Jacket
October 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
Eh…the offense hasn’t ben helping.
LanierJacket
October 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
hire Charlie Strong as HC
Ray
October 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
Well I know my friend might be a little happy to hear this. Although I’m a Dawgs fan and he a Tech fan I feel a little bad for them right now.
JIMBOB
October 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
Who is the official GT belt supplier?? I kind of like those things. Not really into pleats though.
Peter
October 8th, 2012
3:48 pm
3-4 defense…. Wow how does Tech find a guy 350 plus in the middle ? Silly really !
Greg M.
October 8th, 2012
3:48 pm
The right call. I wish CMR had the b**** to fire Honey Bo Bo..
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October 8th, 2012
3:48 pm
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drew
October 8th, 2012
3:48 pm
I hope that Al Groh was the problem. But I suspect there’s also a lack of talent, due to poor recruiting, that accounts for some of Tech’s defensive issues.
Jim
October 8th, 2012
3:48 pm
It is good to see that at least one head coach in Georgia has the guts to get rid of a coordinator when it is obvious things are not working.
RogersParkRob
October 8th, 2012
3:49 pm
So has anyone asked CPJ who will the DC? Joe Speed? Charles Kelly? He should probably call Tenuta, with hat in hand.
jdawg
October 8th, 2012
3:49 pm
Oh well….I guess they will blame uga in someway….
Hiring?
October 8th, 2012
3:49 pm
Looks like the AJC could use a copy editor.
Birmingham Jacket
October 8th, 2012
3:49 pm
Giff Smith will do a better job with the X’s but will fix the number problem… Recruiting.
db
October 8th, 2012
3:50 pm
If the season doesn’t turn around soon, CPJ will be looking for employment elsewhere also.
GT Dude
October 8th, 2012
3:51 pm
We scored more than enough points to win 90% of our games during the last three year if we had any resemblense of a decent defence.
Never really like to see a man get fired, but in this case I have to admit I am smiling
Al, on the way out don’t let the door hit you, where god split you…
Bobby
October 8th, 2012
3:51 pm
We need a QB like UGA’s Murray. Even with the game against USC this Saturday Murray would have done well leading the Yellow Jacket offense.
Sad Sack
October 8th, 2012
3:51 pm
Maybe CPJ can now be both OC and DC…
JIMBOB
October 8th, 2012
3:51 pm
Clean house and bring in Phillip Fulmer!
@ jdawg
October 8th, 2012
3:52 pm
I think you have your own problems to worry about right now.
Just sayin’
Who cares?
October 8th, 2012
3:53 pm
He’s not the only problem.
lol @ Sad Sack
October 8th, 2012
3:53 pm
Good one!
GT Dude
October 8th, 2012
3:53 pm
actually meant to say: …if we had any resemblance of a decent defense…
got so excited that I couldn’t spell check
StingerSplash
October 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
Al Groh had been a defensive coordinator in the NFL. But just what kind of success did he have there? He wasn’t the defensive coordinator when the Giants won the Super Bowl. He was the DC the following season.
C. Tampa Ironworse
October 8th, 2012
3:55 pm
That will ALWAYS be Paul Johnson’s problem. He always thinks he’s the smartest in the room or at minimum, people just misunderstand his greatness. He’s the guy who has a heart attack and tells the doctor “I don’t get sick”. Too much ego…not enough understanding of the politics of college football.
SS loves Obama
October 8th, 2012
3:55 pm
Good move I think
spider
October 8th, 2012
3:55 pm
i think all the fans should be the new def coordinator since they are so smart.
juvenal
October 8th, 2012
3:56 pm
Jeff, other than ‘Bama, anybody in D1 running the 3-4 successfully? (UGA obviously not included)
Hamad Meander
October 8th, 2012
3:58 pm
Which is worst at Tech – defensive coaching or talent level? They are both pretty bad, though Steve Spurrier thinks D1 talent in Georgia is as good as it is in Florida. The GA schools should be able to get good players and let Spurrier get what’s left over, but that’s not the case.
If Tech had any defense at all, they would be 4-1. That last series against VA Tech in regulation was one of the worst I’ve ever seen.
Alabama Jack
October 8th, 2012
3:59 pm
Since CPJ came to Tech, the offense has scored 14 or more points in 55 of the 59 games played. The defense has held the other team to less than 14 points in only 7 of those 59 games. Three of those games came in 2008 – Mississippi State, Duke, and Gardner-Webb. Two were in 2009 – NC and UVA.
One in 2010 -SC State and the last one Presbyterian this year. Dave Womack was DC in 2008. Al Groh 2009 – today.
WhatUpDawg
October 8th, 2012
4:00 pm
We have not had a good recruiting program since Giff Smith left.
Blame Game
October 8th, 2012
4:00 pm
I think its more of a recruiting problem, which is a result of the CPJ! Groh never had a chance. Look at CPJ track record at Navy and GT. The Defense has never been very good.
beezit
October 8th, 2012
4:01 pm
Radakovich should turn the program into an incubator for up and coming defensive coaching talent….we’ve got the offense…
mothers conerrns
October 8th, 2012
4:02 pm
They need to fire the Coach also !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buddy Ryan
October 8th, 2012
4:03 pm
Recruit, Recruit, Recruit- Buddy Ryan in the 1980’s couldn’t run this talent less defense
Jeff Schultz
October 8th, 2012
4:03 pm
Jevenal — vast majority run 4-3 or some kind of hybrid, but honestly not aware who runs 3-4/4-3.
All I'm Saying Is....
October 8th, 2012
4:04 pm
Hire Bill Lewis or Willie Martinez or Buddy Ryan or Jerry Glanville…can’t be any worse (or older) than
Grandpa Al
JB
October 8th, 2012
4:05 pm
They will handle it in house and hire for next year. No one is available mid season…or in their resume right mind would accept for a few games.
Big Crimson 75
October 8th, 2012
4:07 pm
Juvenal — the Gators.
Ted M
October 8th, 2012
4:07 pm
This certainly can’t hurt… but I think Johnson is the bigger problem.
In Johnson defense at least looks at the defense and sees a problem.
Jacket Man
October 8th, 2012
4:09 pm
Randy Shannon and Tyrone Nix should be on the short list; anyone even thinking about it now, forget Giff Smith, just look at the Bills defensive stats and that should be enough.
Ted M
October 8th, 2012
4:09 pm
So who is the interim DC?
MrDan
October 8th, 2012
4:10 pm
Here’s another mistake. The State, Columbia SC’s newspaper is reporting Aaron Murray’s and Christian Robinson’s house was egged and rolled after Saturday’s game.
http://www.thestate.com/2012/10/08/2472843/national-notebook-ga-player-says.html
If this is true, and it’s being reported there and elsewhere, I want to say to the cowards who did this. You’ve done more to hurt Georgia’s recruiting than any loss to SC, or any coach, or any sportswriter could ever do. I hope someone’s man enough to turn in whoever did that and the school or authorities is man enough to do something about it. Grow up you chikin s*&t bas*%(ds.
Pete
October 8th, 2012
4:11 pm
He was a H U G E mistake.
Thank God he’s gone.
DecaturHurricaneAlum
October 8th, 2012
4:11 pm
Please Al Groh, man please I actually would like to see your program go in the right direction I am tired of the ACC having middle of the road teams. But until you start passing the ball, and get some players in your secondary that can stop the pass and run you well be here next year. And how is it we can get four top defense players out of Georgia and those same players not even be approached by Georgia Tech?
collegeballfan
October 8th, 2012
4:12 pm
“Jeff, other than ‘Bama, anybody in D1 running the 3-4 successfully? (UGA obviously not included)”
Wonderful question. Anyone know the answer?
Just speculating on GT as a 4 – 3 team with the present players:
DE – Deike & Crenshaw
DT – Barnes & Green
DT – Cross & Cummings
DE – Williams & Drummond
OLB – Watts & Monroe
ILB – Nealy & Hunt-Days
OLB – Attaochu & Marcordes
And sub frequently – relentless pressure.
GTater
October 8th, 2012
4:13 pm
It’s not likely, but I hope GT brings Tenuta back (you know, if he wants to come back). He did a hell of a job with less-than-elite talent. I know he wanted the head coach job but I think he’s realized by now that he’s not gonna get a head coaching job in D-I. [Crossing my fingers.]
Jimbo Fisher
October 8th, 2012
4:13 pm
Enter your comments here
Dooley
October 8th, 2012
4:14 pm
We should get a young up and coming defensive assistant from Alabama, LSU, or South Carolina. We need someone who can come in and make an impact on recruiting. And we all know these schools know how to play defense.
Jimbo Fisher
October 8th, 2012
4:14 pm
I think Paul Johnson is a fantastic coach, and that firing Al Groh is the worst coaching mistake he’s made in his coaching career.
techie
October 8th, 2012
4:16 pm
It all starts with Paul Johnson fish fry
www
October 8th, 2012
4:21 pm
schultz, i think you nailed the situation.
thanks for the hard work, coach groh, and good luck to you in your next endeavor.
now, on to the business at hand – who makes the most sense as the next defensive coordinator hire at tech?
potus obama & vpotus biden
October 8th, 2012
4:22 pm
it is all bush’s fault!
Tech4Life
October 8th, 2012
4:22 pm
Al Groh was only a small fraction of the problem at Georgia Tech. CPJ was not the right hire to begin with and should never have came to the flats. In todays’ society, high school kids want to get to the NFL and a high school triple option offense just doesn’t help in that aspect. That’s why the Alabamas, the Clemsons, the LSUs of the world invade our state and get great recruits and Tech is left with two star players. Chan Gailey was a garbage coach for Tech, but at least he began to bring good talent on the flats. CPJ won with them, but now his talent is showing, (or lack thereof). Wake Forest was a handful a few years ago with a similar offense, but realized that in order to recruit better players, they had to expand their offense to appeal higher rated recruits.
big daddy
October 8th, 2012
4:22 pm
Bring back Ted Roof. He was excellent defensive coach. I think all Tech fans and myself being one all thought that was going to be a very good season. However, the D has not lived up to expectations. Now if PJ will start playing VL more to give him the exposure for next year, maybe things can be pieced back together. After watching the VT game, I said Tech would be lucky to win 6 games this year, maybe 7. It looks pretty good that they won’t win 6. Right now, I am not even sure they can beat Duke
David
October 8th, 2012
4:23 pm
You can’t have a good defense without good defensive linemen. Paul Johnson can’t recruit, that is the real issue. Now Johnson buy out is so large gt can’t fire him. The next person that should be fired is the AD.
Tech Legacy
October 8th, 2012
4:23 pm
I’m surprised that this happened now, but clearly, things were falling apart. I still think the biggest issue is recruiting. Tech doesn’t have enough good players. I don’t think it’s necessarily a scheme thing. It doesn’t matter what you run if the players don’t or can’t execute better than the opposition.
Jimbo Fisher
October 8th, 2012
4:23 pm
Special teams played huge too though. Our defense got 2 big turnovers, and then our offense/special teams couldn’t put up any points. A blocked field goal and falling down on your own 2yd line will never ever put a W in the win column.
Buzz Belle
October 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
Great move! The points the offense get is enough to win most games if the defense stops the other team. Simple as that. Would love to see Tenuta back but that won’t happen. It takes guts to fire a coordinator mid season, I suspect CPJ knew something had to be done or it was off with his head. Go Jackets!
Ignition
October 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
Inaccuracies Everywhere Jeff
Stanford, Notre Dame, Tenn, Alabama, UGA, and Florida run 3-4 defenses..
Two of Techs current d-lineman are 350 plus pounds …
Tech’s current D recruits fit the mode for a 3-4 ..
Tech may run the 3-4 base less than 30% of the time, they probably run a dime package more..
doc
October 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
com’on jeff! kansas? didnt he also give up about three of four to buffalo?
oops forgot that was a formerly number 5 team in the nation.
heh heh
man can you believe that pollsters could ever rank a team that high after giving away so much to tiny buffalo? those guys ought to be fired as they will have a role in the bcs “championship”.
Milo
October 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
Hey mr Dan:
Not that ur post has anything to do with this article but heres a flash for you:::::::::::::::
Georgia does get the recruits all the time and will continue to do so.
They just don’t know what to do with them.
Answer This
October 8th, 2012
4:25 pm
Did you really say save a season? This season is D-E-A-D for Tech!They are playing to go to the Tire Bowl right now! And it is not only because of that lousy defense put Paul better understand that you have and I say HAVE to throw the ball in college football to win. And 10 times a game is not enough! Come on Tech get right or get looking for another Coach!
grohgo
October 8th, 2012
4:29 pm
at the time the atl writers thought the groh hire was brilliant. Now that he turns out to be a bust, the atl writers have proclaimed it a “mistake.” they are brilliant.
RevTom
October 8th, 2012
4:30 pm
Move that had to be made – feel sorry for the guy. http://www.wedgeorgia.com
Keith
October 8th, 2012
4:30 pm
Jeff -
Don’t forget, CPJ’s unstoppable offense has planted a big GOOSE EGG on the scoreboard in the two overtimes that the team has played. So, let’s not say that they haven’t lost because of the offense!!!!!
GTBob
October 8th, 2012
4:30 pm
I applaud CPJ for having the guts to do this in the middle of the season. Groh and the 3-4 were just never a good fit at GT. It was only going to get worse. Hopefully Kelly can get something going with the defense.
Joey
October 8th, 2012
4:31 pm
Go PJ!
Good to see someone take the bull by the horns. (PJ, could you help Greg McGarity grow a pair?)
This had to be done.
Now, go get a good DC and a dynamic young recruiter, and PJ (and GT) will be fine.
Ron
October 8th, 2012
4:33 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2010/01/08/firing-assistant-after-11-3-season-says-a-lot-about-johnson/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog
Capt. Call Out
October 8th, 2012
4:36 pm
Good thing you kept that quote on file after getting so butthurt at his bristling. These told-you-so columns wouldn’t be nearly as effective otherwise.
fan
October 8th, 2012
4:36 pm
Paul Johnson was Georgia Tech’s mistake.
GTBob
October 8th, 2012
4:36 pm
Don’t forget, CPJ’s unstoppable offense has planted a big GOOSE EGG on the scoreboard in the two overtimes that the team has played.
I think we are all hoping that CPJ addresses the Tevin Washington problem as well.
ignition
October 8th, 2012
4:38 pm
Chris Rumph and I’m gonna keep screaming it !!!!!
http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/rumph_chris00.html
Big Jim
October 8th, 2012
4:43 pm
Johnson was DRads much bigger Mistake! Please feel free to correct now!
3 DC’s in 4 Yrs….same bumblin red neck head coach, program in the toilet…ah yeah, great move….
No DC will be successful until the cancer is gone.
Practice against the fullback dive 854,530 times a week and you will never be successful against the “real” offenses you see on Sat. running the tight end delay, WR slant, bubble screen, post patterns,,,,or know how to pass rush.
JIMBOB
October 8th, 2012
4:46 pm
Insert your Johnson here
Doug
October 8th, 2012
4:51 pm
Some folks have mentioned bringing back John Tenuta. That’d be great but I’m not sure there’s a room big enough to hold the egos of Tenuta and Johnson.
NoMoreRawDeal
October 8th, 2012
4:51 pm
Good for Tech, they’ve got the right idea.
Now if only UGA would get to firing Mike Bobo – and possibly CMR as well – we could get down to business.
Traveler
October 8th, 2012
4:52 pm
Al Groh is a scapegoat! No one can win with with the talent PJ is bringing in. He is the one that needs to go!
let's not forget...
October 8th, 2012
4:52 pm
a better d means our o will be on the field longer and score even more points.
let's not forget...
October 8th, 2012
4:53 pm
a better d means our o stays on the field longer and can score more points.
ignition
October 8th, 2012
4:53 pm
Chris Rumph !!!!!!!!!!!
eddy
October 8th, 2012
4:54 pm
Tech was once a big time program. Now thx to CPJ, they are viewed as a one trick pony. The 2 minute drill at the end of a game takes about 6-8 minutes to get within a field goal range..no passing expertise. I guess now CPJ will take over the defense, already does the offense, soon to take over the special teams and kickers. Only one coach required at Tech since he is so smart and gifted. Sad to see a good program mired under this goofy offense. Can the single wing be far behind!!!
Baby Dawg
October 8th, 2012
4:57 pm
Someone needs to find Chan Gailey and apologize to him. PJ’s record thru 58 games: 35-23, Chan Gailey’s record thru 58 games- 34-24. The only difference, 1 win against UGA. Guess if you win 1 of every 4 with UGA you get to keep your job. That is what it comes down to.
gt45
October 8th, 2012
4:58 pm
Johnson ain’t the problem. Tell me a program who has put up more points in the ACC than the Jackets. We’ve run in to a few teams that have stopped us, but that is football. If we had the defense we had back in the Reggie Ball days, when we couldn’t score, we would be conference champs every year. That is the plain simple facts. As for you UGA retards, you might want to look a little closer at how the 3-4 has worked out for you. Even FL Atl ran the ball down your throats. Bottom line, when you put up the points year in and year out that Tech does, you should be winning about 90% of your games, at least!
Tech Man
October 8th, 2012
4:58 pm
CPJ is exactly like Barrack Obama. “It’s not my fault and I’m always right anyway.”
Truth
October 8th, 2012
4:59 pm
We need real recruits…2 and 3 star athletes do not translate into ACC wins…..enough of the giving scholarships to kickers who can’t kick……….lets get real….time to buckle down and get back at least into the top 40 in recruiting rankings !!!!!
Tech man
October 8th, 2012
5:02 pm
Tech does’t have the talent, period. Drummond would not start for anybody. His reactions are slow. We have some good guys, but if Drummond is starting, we have problems on defense. And we have problems on defense.
Highly Respected Southern Troll
October 8th, 2012
5:06 pm
Johnson will follow Groh out-the-door if he hasn’t beaten UGA again by end of next year…possibly end of this year.
Bobby "Pig-Sooey" Patrino
October 8th, 2012
5:06 pm
Psst…Paul…
I am tan, rested and ready.
collegeballfan
October 8th, 2012
5:07 pm
“Tech was once a big time program.”
Yeah. In 1952.
Big Jim
October 8th, 2012
5:11 pm
Gt45…respect your opinion, but you are an idiot, and obviously NOT watching the GT games…or any games at all.
There are many many teams that run the 3-4 on Sat’s, and even a “couple” on Sunday. BUT there are ZERO (real teams) running the stupid slopsion on Sat…and ah yes ZERO on Sunday.
Wonder why??? Hummm…maybe cause it does NOT Fing work in big boy ball! Every 4-5 star kids wants/thinks they will play on Sunday. So we get 2’s & 3’s, an occasional 4. Fact. Why??? because they need to learn how & what to do to play on Sun. Fact
Please dont cite Calvin or D Thomas as examples that it does work, you will just look more ignorant…
Ted M
October 8th, 2012
5:12 pm
But he is a lousy recruiter. Do you mean hiring or firing?
GTBob
October 8th, 2012
5:13 pm
Tech was once a big time program.
When? It has been a long time since the 1950’s.
BBlue
October 8th, 2012
5:13 pm
My arm is killing me. Eggs and toilet paper at my age and I can’t lift my arm.
reebok
October 8th, 2012
5:16 pm
Coach Johnson had to do something, but I feel a little bad for Groh, as he had so little talent to work with.
TheBabe
October 8th, 2012
5:17 pm
Hey, GTBob, does this move save CPJ’s job? Or do you think his job is not at risk, at least through the end of this season?
Just Saying
October 8th, 2012
5:17 pm
what I do not understand is that Giff Smith came from Ga Southern too so why can’t CPJ and GT find the money to bring him back from Buffalo? Tenuta would also be a great hire
Lance
October 8th, 2012
5:18 pm
Just like Richt is Vince Dooley’s mistake.
Atlanta truth
October 8th, 2012
5:19 pm
Keeping you up honey ?
Atlanta truth
October 8th, 2012
5:20 pm
@ JIMBOB keeping you up honey ?
Najeh Davenpoop
October 8th, 2012
5:21 pm
You can’t pull off comebacks with a run-first, run-second, run-third offense. A run-heavy offense is good only if it is paired with a defense that will maintain leads. Georgia Tech would be better off without the gimmick triple option.
Ted M
October 8th, 2012
5:21 pm
Johnson is not going to get fire. 12 mil to buyout his contract and another 3 mil to replace him and some of his assistants.
We are stuck with Johnson… we can only hope he has an epiphany like hey you know what “maybe recruiting does matter”
Stinger2
October 8th, 2012
5:24 pm
GT football will never again be what it was in its prime during the Dodd and SEC era.
There are several reasons such as the mistake of leaving the SEC, the changing times of football recruiting, the players themselves, the fact that the GT alumni and fan
base is no longer the same are only some of the factors.
All GT fans should realize that it is what it is now and either accept the fact that we will be at best a mid-tier ACC program or find another team to root for. The current problems with the defense along with CPJ`s personal preference for an option offense can be improved with the right adjustments. However, there is only so much that can be done and that will never get GT back to the level of a consistent high profile program.
Atlanta truth
October 8th, 2012
5:30 pm
So …………. CU got your boy Groh fired. LOL. Please downgrade to FCS level. All will be well.
Atlanta truth
October 8th, 2012
5:32 pm
@ Ted M — Johnson will be fired. Please acknowledge the reality. Ga Tech Football SUXXXXX
HardHat
October 8th, 2012
5:32 pm
Next to go Paul Hewitt oh I mean Johnson. La Tech has a head coach Sonny Dykes maybe he is the answer.
GTBob
October 8th, 2012
5:33 pm
Hey, GTBob, does this move save CPJ’s job? Or do you think his job is not at risk, at least through the end of this season?
His job wasn’t really in danger. He has plenty of time to turn things around before it ever gets to that point. This move certainly proves that he has the courage to try and correct things though.
Big Jim
October 8th, 2012
5:34 pm
Simply saying “recruiting” is bad in NOT the answer people. (it is bad no doubt) But….
The Johnson could walk into any 5 star kids house with a pound of blow and 3 whooers…and say “hey come to GT, where we run the simply cannot defend vaunted Trippple Option!!!” And they look at him and say “WTF is that? Do they run that in the NFL?
As mediocre a coach as Richt is, he gets loads of talent yr in an yr out. Why, because he runs a system that puts players in the NFL. And yes….piss poor akademick standards plays into it just a bit too.
Just Sayn
October 8th, 2012
5:34 pm
Jeff,
So let me get this straight.
He gave you an honest answer to your stupid question three years ago, and now it’s Paul Johnson’s mistake?
Please explain that logic.
Or did you hold that grudge for 3 years, after your stupid question?
Go ask Todd G “How did you give up 23 points to the SUNY Buffs when they could only manage 7 against Kent State?”
You don’t have the balls to do it, opting to play to the Redneck base in this state.
Vain Jangling
October 8th, 2012
5:34 pm
Well, Johnson can’t fire himself. Although . . . that’s a thought . . .
Atlanta truth
October 8th, 2012
5:35 pm
@Stinger2 —– Johnson will be fired. Please acknowledge the reality. Ga Tech Football SUXXXXX
just sayin
October 8th, 2012
5:38 pm
At least GT has had fewer players arrested than UGA.
4-3
October 8th, 2012
5:38 pm
The only way to play is the 4-3. If you arent getting 5 star athletes for the d-line you cant play the 3-4. only a few schools outside the SEC can play a true 3-4. As for the offense, its doing fine. If the defense wouldnt give up the consistent 3rd down and get the ball back, the offense would be averaging 35 ppg. That would win most game. Fix the D and tech will be okay. GO VAD
Big Crimson 75
October 8th, 2012
5:40 pm
Hey, GTBob, does this move save CPJ’s job? Or do you think his job is not at risk, at least through the end of this season?
His job wasn’t really in danger. He has plenty of time to turn things around before it ever gets to that point. This move certainly proves that he has the courage to try and correct things though.
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Ok Bobby, so when the Team keeps losing(which it will) & the Defense doesn’t get better(which it won’t), then what happens?
Johnson should have saved his “go to” maneuver when the Season ended.
pw12
October 8th, 2012
5:42 pm
Ralph fridgen.and let him run his option baesd pass offense with vad Lee like he did joe hamilton..or get a d cord who runs 4/3..that works best with what tech can recruit..or 4/4…i am leaning towards 4/4..i know hire buddy ryan as d coordinator..or is he dead??
Tron5000
October 8th, 2012
5:42 pm
I guess my emails and voice mails for DRad didn’t go unheeded. I knew he’d listen to me eventually. You’re welcome.
crackbaby
October 8th, 2012
5:44 pm
@big daddy – Ted Roof?! You gotta be kidding me.
His D at Tech sucked, his team at Duke sucked, and he got fired at Auburn. The only worse suggestion is Petrino as HC. So many people on drugs or something…
Look for a young coach who is a proven recruiter as a position coach – raid the SEC pantry.
chuck e
October 8th, 2012
5:45 pm
Al Groh was just part of the problem. Tech has a hard headed coach in Paul Johnson that thinks it’s his way or the highway as far as his offense goes and he does a poor job recruiting on both sides of the ball. For all the Chan haters, Johnson’s record after the same number of games is almost exactly the same as Chan and many of Johnson’s wins came in his first two years with Chan’s players.
GTBob
October 8th, 2012
5:48 pm
Ok Bobby, so when the Team keeps losing(which it will) & the Defense doesn’t get better(which it won’t), then what happens?
If the defense never gets better then he will get fired. Its not to that point yet. What makes you think that GT is not humanly capable of improving their defense at all?
Atlanta truth
October 8th, 2012
5:48 pm
THE OPTION DOESN’T WORK ! OMG. so 1987 What ? that’s offense ? NO ! dumbass. It’s your college football gameplan for NOW. wake up and realize that.
Spare Tire
October 8th, 2012
5:48 pm
It is 100% correct. He never should have been hired. Hopefully the change now will help.
Ted M
October 8th, 2012
5:48 pm
Enter your comments here
Lee
October 8th, 2012
5:51 pm
Vlad Lee should start or get some playing time if Tech loses their next game.
Atlanta truth
October 8th, 2012
5:51 pm
I WILL REPEAT ALL NIGHT …………. THE OPTION DOES NOT WORK. Are we clear ? Or are there mental challenges ? Helloooooo ?
Big Crimson 75
October 8th, 2012
5:56 pm
If the defense never gets better then he will get fired. Its not to that point yet. What makes you think that GT is not humanly capable of improving their defense at all?
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20/20 vision
Buzzman
October 8th, 2012
6:00 pm
Goodbye Big Al. Now for the rest of the season, we will probably lose 5 out of 6, but who is counting and who really cares about this season, this season is over, now for next year we must do better on recruiting, we need defense players, we need quarterbacks that can run and throw not run and fumble. Also need receivers that can catch the ball (call Chan, he recruited some darn good receivers). Now the biggest problem with recruiting, we have to compete against Georgia,Auburn,Alabama,Florida,Florida State,South Caroline, and Clemson. Did I leave anyone out? Funny Clemson has a top ten recruit out of Georgia already for next year out of Grayson, can’t remember his name. If you were a player would you go to Tech if you had all of these other schools recruiting you. I doubt it. So recruiting next year has got to be a priority.
GT
October 8th, 2012
6:01 pm
The offense is fine. Paul Johnson is fine. The defense was using up all the margin of error. Would be interesting to hear the whole story. I wonder how Groh got here in the first place. Looked like a good pick but this guy is too independent. We need a Johnson man would love to see a black coach with energy. Spurrier type move.
GTBob
October 8th, 2012
6:01 pm
20/20 vision
20/20 vision tells you that we are not capable of not being one of the worst defensive teams in college football history? Break it down for us Big Crimson. Why are we not capable of just being bad and not horrible?
QB/DB
October 8th, 2012
6:01 pm
Right collegeball fan but I would also put 6:5 Waller back to Safety where he wanted to play and was a beast in H.S. the Admin. should lighten up on entrance requirements. I like move now we can see if current Staff can turn this around and we get a chance to grade them in real time -they have a week to change. Randy Shannon with his Soth Florida connections and experience in recruiting kids to Big City atmospheres and Giff as RC will be a home run for CPJ and a change that will also turn recruiting around! Thanks CPJ all you ever needed and wanted was a GREAT D and a very good recruiting years. Right this ship CPJ you are too great of a Coach to let it go down like this!
GTBob
October 8th, 2012
6:04 pm
I WILL REPEAT ALL NIGHT …………. THE OPTION DOES NOT WORK. Are we clear ? Or are there mental challenges ? Helloooooo ?
We are ranked 22nd in total offense and 92nd in total defense. I must be mentally challenged because I see those two numbers and i’m not really concerned about the offense.
Big Crimson 75
October 8th, 2012
6:07 pm
Bob — Al Groh is a good football coach. Ask Parcells!! Ask Belechick!! Ask the Nic-Tator!! Ask Coughlin!!
When you don’t have the Troops, no need to invade Poland!!
GT Redneck
October 8th, 2012
6:08 pm
Hell PJ don’t stop there fire yourself and maybe next year might be better than this year.Plus put Vad in you self ego dumba$$!!
BuzzieBooBoo
October 8th, 2012
6:10 pm
Is there another Dooley we could hire?
BSIM1969
October 8th, 2012
6:10 pm
Shultz is now a Monday afternoon quarterback. How nice.
GTBob
October 8th, 2012
6:11 pm
Bob — Al Groh is a good football coach. Ask Parcells!! Ask Belechick!! Ask the Nic-Tator!! Ask Coughlin!!
When you don’t have the Troops, no need to invade Poland!!
Are you really insinuating that our talent on defense is so bad that there is no coach on earth that could have held Middle Tennessee State to less than 49 points and 510 yards of offense. That was easily their best offensive game of the year. Is our talent on defense that much worse than Mcneese St?
Hmmmmmmm
October 8th, 2012
6:11 pm
@GT Bob
Yes sir, the first sign or recovery is owning the problem GT Bob…. You like many, are mentally challenged when it comes to CPJ and his terrible offense…
Go Jackets
October 8th, 2012
6:14 pm
I guess its Al Groh’s fault that tevin cant make a 4th and 1 ANYTIME…..:-P
pw12
October 8th, 2012
6:14 pm
Ralph with Randy shannon..
GTBob
October 8th, 2012
6:18 pm
You like many, are mentally challenged when it comes to CPJ and his terrible offense…
Give me a good argument for why the offense is so terrible and I might come around to your side. As for now, im fine with the 38 points and 480 yards of offense we are averaging.
Dacusville Bill
October 8th, 2012
6:24 pm
Now fire Pitiful Paul and hire Bobby Pertino(sp)–The last 2 “Bobby’s” did a great job at GT–
Stinger
October 8th, 2012
6:25 pm
MIKE BILOTTI FOR HEAD COACH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stinger
October 8th, 2012
6:27 pm
Mike Bilotti could recruit some the out west talent he did at Oregon.
CC
October 8th, 2012
6:30 pm
Paul Johnson needs to be fired.
noel malone
October 8th, 2012
6:32 pm
who was the idiot who tried to field a kickoff on his own two then slipped,
leading to the screwed-up pitch play that was stopped for a safety?
The pitch play from the two was probably the worst call Johnson has ever
made or will ever make.
big question – why can’t tech recruit defensive players?
noel malone
October 8th, 2012
6:34 pm
hire bobby petrino? are you kidding? the guy has no character.
from a tech fan – class of 57 – living in fayetteville.
wxwax
October 8th, 2012
6:39 pm
I agree with everyone who says that Tech’s recruiting has suffered under Paul Johnson.
He could win with Chan Gailey’s players, but not his own. Maybe he can hire Gailey as a recruiting coordinator when Buffalo fires him?
Stinger
October 8th, 2012
6:41 pm
Randy Sanders ,,,,,,,,,,,,Fulmers former off.cordinator would not be bad decision.
Highly Respected Southern Troll
October 8th, 2012
6:44 pm
It’s about time that Johnson was getting heat some heat at Tech. It should have started after he blew the 2009 game against Georgia. Tech’s biggest games are Georgia, Clemson, Virginia Tech, FSU, and the bowl. His record…
1-3 versus UGA and staring at a likely 1-4
4-2 versus Clemson
1-4 versus VT
2-0 versus FSU but they roll back on the schedule next year
0-4 versus bowl opponents
That’s 8-13 with half the wins coming against Clemson (including two in one year). If you add-in his record against Miami (a second-tier rival for the Jackets) it’s 9-17. If you only count UGA, Clemson, and VT it’s 6-9.
That’s bad, folks.
Ted M
October 8th, 2012
6:50 pm
I hope Johnson is fired…and he is but not until 2015.
chas_jacket
October 8th, 2012
6:50 pm
The defense is by far the main issue. They have simply looked lost for most of this season. Also not sure why people are so down on the talent of recruits – in looking at Rivals recruiting numbers over the past 6 years , I don’t see a big change.
The offense is doing OK – but should really hum once Vad or Justin gets under center. Then you will see the ball in the air more. I like Tevin but lets face it, he’s slow, has not been great on the option reads and simply cannot throw the ball with any consistency – and we are still putting up good offensive numbers. Might as well support CPJ anyway as we are certainly not going to buy his contract out anytime soon.
LongTime Jacket
October 8th, 2012
6:50 pm
Kirby Smart. We could be “project”.
LongTime Jacket
October 8th, 2012
6:51 pm
Add “his” above.
GT Bee
October 8th, 2012
6:54 pm
Sure wish we would have signed the youngest Shaw instead of the older one.
Mike S.
October 8th, 2012
7:02 pm
I thought Groh was an overrated hire from the start. He got fired from Va for a reason. His defenses weren’t that great there with better recruits.
Poleesemenses
October 8th, 2012
7:43 pm
I saw this kid Washington throw a couple of passes last week. He looked like he was trying to hit the peanut vendor in the stands.
indigo
October 8th, 2012
7:52 pm
Sorry, but your head coach does not recruit good defensive players.Real hard to make it work.
Paul Johnson come in and does real well with Chan Gailley’s players. Everybody proclaims he can walk on water after just one good season. a common mistake. But he may very well be the problem, not Al Groh. Can he recruit players for both sides, offense and defense?
1 4 GT
October 8th, 2012
7:54 pm
Hey you Georgie trolls….don’t y’all have enough to worry about with your own team without being here being jerks over GT. And it’s no excuse to say ours are on your boards. I say the same thing to them. Grow up and get a life, whichever side you troll for and for God’s sake , be better than the other idiots.
THWG
October 8th, 2012
7:56 pm
I don’t get why we ever fired Dave Wommack.
Tevin Washington benched
October 8th, 2012
7:57 pm
Tevin needs to be benched. Days and Lee much better . Tech 4-8 at best
Bull Meacham
October 8th, 2012
8:05 pm
I congratulate Tech on having the stones to do this. Short supply in Athens.
Charles_Atlanta
October 8th, 2012
8:34 pm
Somebody forgot to tell Kansas State that the option doesn’t work.
I’m rather concerned that our decline in defense started before Al Groh hit the scene. That probably points to a decline in talent. On offense, I think a good scheme can make an average unit into a good offensive unit. I’m not sure that is the case on the defensive side of the ball.
Al Groh
October 8th, 2012
8:38 pm
I don’t think the defenses I drew up were that bad.
Johnson just needs to learn to recruit.
buzzin mycrotch
October 8th, 2012
9:05 pm
i think reggie ball would make a good DC
Burgess
October 8th, 2012
9:54 pm
Why does Johnson still have a job ?
Sid
October 8th, 2012
10:01 pm
Fish Fry needs to fire himself
just thinkin'
October 8th, 2012
10:01 pm
So Dabo, in his confusion is ready to punt early in the game on fourth and short.
We are not ready to accept the ball so we call timeout.
Our timeout gives Dabo time to wake up and change his mind. They get the first down and go on to score.
The coach that called the timeout when they wanted to give us the ball should be fired.
Predictable series of events for Tech fans.
Reggie's balls
October 8th, 2012
10:11 pm
GO COCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cloudodust
October 8th, 2012
10:18 pm
Dang Paul Johnson’s firing of Groh taking this weeks heat off the Georgia-South Carolina game just to recapture the ajc sports-beat spotlight.
Edd Price
October 8th, 2012
10:22 pm
Being an UGA fan, I am no fan of anything Tech; but taking a shot at a 70 yr old man on the day he is fired due to him hurting your feelings a couple of years ago says a lot more about you than him.
The truth
October 8th, 2012
10:31 pm
Well now Brian Van Gorder has another place to go!,
ignition
October 8th, 2012
11:03 pm
Chris Rumph !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
76tornados
October 8th, 2012
11:09 pm
I am fine with the offense averaging 38 points per game. Recruiting is the problem, and it isn’t because of the offense we run. Paul just isn’t a good recruiter. Get a defensive recruiting guru and we are fine. Defense is the problem. By the way, Chan wasn’t the great recruiter. It was Giff Smith.
76tornados
October 8th, 2012
11:11 pm
Granted he also hasn’t proven he can develop a QB in the system. It will take talent on that position as well, and we will not get a guy that has aspirations of playing on Sundays. Dont necessarily have to either. Nesbitt wasn’t.
Grasp of the Obvious
October 8th, 2012
11:18 pm
“”"Al Groh was a mistake. He was Paul Johnson’s mistake. It took about 2½ years for the Georgia Tech head coach to realize that.”"”
Wow Schultz, what insight here. I’m amazed. After watching the GT defense get scorched the last 3 weeks, I’m glad you were able to clue us in on this.
Fact Check
October 8th, 2012
11:31 pm
There are so many ridiculous comments on this blog.
pb
October 8th, 2012
11:33 pm
I sense a sinking ship at Tech.!
Marv
October 8th, 2012
11:35 pm
At least Tech had the nads to realize they had a problem and make the move, not wait 4 long years, split the entire bulldog nation, just to watch worthless Willie Martinez lose another game.
pb
October 8th, 2012
11:47 pm
Yes Honey Bo Bo needs to go!
Swamp Fox Redux?
October 8th, 2012
11:48 pm
Jeff, your anecdote about an NFL coach not being able to translate to kids reminds me of the stories coming out of Athens when Goff brought in Marion Campbell to coach the D.
Buzzzed
October 8th, 2012
11:59 pm
Can’t wait for Carvell’s articles on how this affects the defensive recruits.
around town
October 9th, 2012
1:09 am
What about Oleary? Would Freidgen be interested in returning as OC? For all his offensive “genius,” CPJ cannot hold a candle to him, IMO.
around town
October 9th, 2012
1:11 am
Of course, I mean Oleary as HC. Just seems to me to be a given that CPJ has to go is Tech is going to emerge from the doldrums once more.
nogroh
October 9th, 2012
1:34 am
groh–a bust in the nfl, a bust at uva, a bust at tech. He’ll walk away with millions in severance cash–another big waste of money by paul johnson and tech’s ad.
joseph gamble
October 9th, 2012
6:15 am
As a Dawg fan this sounds familiar,Ray Goff & The Swamp Fox Marion Campbell
hope2013
October 9th, 2012
6:52 am
The problem is CPJ the players in Atlanta do not like him and refuse to play for him.
eBuzz
October 9th, 2012
7:39 am
“Al Groh was a mistake.” Well, duh. My UVA friends were laughing their rear ends off 2-1/2 years ago.
bene gesserit witch
October 9th, 2012
7:52 am
Stick your hand in the box, Paul. See how far you can take the pain.
And think of your middle linebacker – name of Drummond – and remember the pain. Never seen a MLB so statuesque – in the way a statue stand there, stands there, stands there.
Of course, it isn’t only Mr. Drummond, the D overall just can’t cut Division I (or whatever they are calling the ‘big leagues’ nowadays) football. Fast, tough and smart offenses are everywhere. Even at Middle Tennessee State. And on the O side at Tech, you have moderately slow, fragile and simple-mindedness; you know, dive play, dive play, option right, punt (or fumble).
Clean house – starting with who is known as ‘D-Rad’.
Joe Biden
October 9th, 2012
8:22 am
Its called “trickle-down defense”
Whiskey Breath
October 9th, 2012
8:27 am
Jeff, you have a lot of nerve. Where was your opinion when the guy got hired? He flunked after many years at Virginia. He was known as a retread. You are a master of the obvious.
Thomas Brown
October 9th, 2012
8:37 am
Georgie tek beat Jim Donnan to have him fired, and now falls on its collective face 1-10 vs our current coach, and we are supposed to talk about Georgie tek has maybe an issue with their defense ?
There have been all these blogs about how the program has dropped-off, plateaued against his competition, not beat the top teams in The SEC nor even against other conferences. Jim Donnan was fired by Mike Adam$ because as Ben Dukes said, he did not beat his rival competition. As Ben Dukes points out Steve O. Spurrier has been at South Carolina starting 2005, and there is no argument anyone can put forth that we were better than USCe 2011 when they beat us last season and made # 9 in AP Poll, while we lost to them head-to-head and made # 19 beating no team who made the Top 25 – in fact losing all 4. South Carolina today, is equivalent to what the vols or Florida was when Jim Donnan was fired. We average # 8 Scout.com recruiting rankings and South Carolina # 20 starting the same year 2005. We have had huge attrition across the board of the 107 Mark Richt signed who could be playing 2012, and are not. Today, we have 66 scholarship players plus a transfer-in who are available. If we don’t play Chris Conley, Quayvon Hicks, Mark Beard, Jay Rome, Malcolm Mitchell at wide receiver, Sheldon Dawson, Josh Dawson, Josh Harvey-Clemons, Richard Samuel at linebacker, or a back-up Quarterback when our QB states he did not sleep for 2 days prior to the only game on our schedule all 12 games and goes out there with yet another Aaron Murray fumble, another Aaron Murray interception (and several more which should have been intercepted) while again he runs 5 times for minus yards including yet again 2 more sacks – why have there been 30 who have transferred-out of these 107 signed scholarships Mark Richt brought in here ?
Yes, we have more talent than Steve Spurrier. Would you say it is fair to say that Steve Spurrier at 4-4 against Mark Richt, averaging one-third the recruiting rankings has out X and O Mark Richt ?
I believe you can make the point that we have off-field issues which are being shoved under the rug, to avert further embarrassment, that have contributed here to us not beating the top teams.
Starting with Kentucky in 2007, when that was 6 seasons ago, we have not beat an SEC team who made a winning SEC record.
After Auburn # 9 in 2006, when that was 7 seasons ago, we have not beat a team making the Top 10.
34-19 the last 4 years, same as Georgie tek # 31 in the nation.
35-13 Jim Donnan his last 4 years, # 12 in the nation.
For years now, we have been hearing about Mark Richt in terms of his NUMBER OF WINS.
Mark Richt has played 5 more games and not only won 1 fewer but lost 6 more than Jim Donnan – their last 4 years compared.
Even including coming in here and cleaning up Ray Goff’s mess his 1st season – all 5 of Jim Donnan’s years here, comparing that to Mark Richt his last 5 years here :
19 Losses Jim Donnan all 5 years he was here
21 Losses Mark Richt all 5 of his last 5 years here
This is the discussion we get to all the time across this great internet. Jim Donnan was fired for not winning the big games at the time. Mark Richt earned a little give on that with Jim Donnan’s recruits, for Jim Donnan most assuredly did not leave this Top 10 All-Time College Football Program in Wins in a depleted state. He just did not win the games he was expected to win.
I don’t know if you can say we were expected to win the game Saturday night. USCe has a running back and a real dual-threat quarterback, an OL and a DL and Secondary and special teams featuring great players. We matched-up with them, but were out-coached by a guy who has out-coached Ray Goff, Mark Richt and Jim Donnan.
How Mark Richt gets these recruits to come here, when he mis-manages their talent like he has for 12 years of this, and has not in 12 years won as well as all these other SEC programs who have won all these other games in the Mark Richt era against teams who made the Top 10, is anyone’s guess. But, for me, I think they like his forgive approach.
Mark Richt doesn’t think this is any big deal.
He is making no changes to anything.
Again.
He’s satisfied.
Plateaued with his recruiting, game plans, preparation, soft discipline and harsh punishment, and coaching staff or lack thereof.
# 8 in The SEC all 12 years to-date beating teams making Top 10
We’re # 8 in just our own conference of beating teams who made the Top 10 all the entire Mark Richt era.
17 games
Won 3
There are all these posters who purport to state that a Top 10 All-Time College Football Program like ours cannot get and does not deserve any better.
Compare this now, to Jim Donnan, they say.
I find it hard to believe that a Top 10 Program cannot deserve the entitlement of better than # 8 in The SEC at beating top teams in the entire Mark Richt era.
Yes, we’ve plateaued. One day, you will all say I said it 1st – about 7 years ago I said it. You have listed excuses for 7 years, and now you all agree with me without one of you saying I said it to you for all 7 of these years of being unable to beat the top teams while our off-field issues continue with a coach satisfied, and very few fans.
Jim Donnan was fired because he could not beat his top rivals at the time, and specifically Georgie tek. That is why we’re supposed to not have this brought up by Jeff Schultz.
GT 70
October 9th, 2012
8:52 am
Without al we would not have gotten attachou. Maybe a fair trade, sine hopefully we will have him for one more year.
ignition
October 9th, 2012
9:27 am
Enter your comments here
ignition
October 9th, 2012
9:27 am
Crimson 75′ List made a good list for replacements..
Tech fans, here’s the best options to replace Groh:
1. Jeremy Pruitt
2. Lance Thompson
3. Bo Davis
4. Brick Haley
5. Torrian Gray
6. John Neal
7. Mike Tressel
8. Luke Fickell
9. Bob Gregory
10. Mike Vrabel
I like all those names but I would like to add Chris Rumph to this list..
Lance Thompson served under Tech 1990
creative
October 9th, 2012
10:02 am
Thomas Brown…You do realize this is a tech blog right? Did you write all that from memory? Also, you better get rid of the egg cartons in your trunk. They got a lead and it points to you.
wt king
October 9th, 2012
10:07 am
CAG should’a been fired end of LAST season. I think we can all agree on that.
Jeff Schlitz
October 9th, 2012
10:19 am
Jeff,
You got your panties in a bunch when AG was mean to you, you poor thing.
Al Groh is gone but you still run funny and throw like a girl. I mean it in a nice way, though.
Paddy
October 9th, 2012
10:40 am
If Tenuta is hired back you may lose most of your Alum support. Next to Bill Lewis, was there a more hated, arrogant coach at GT? And he does not like to recruit. Not what you guys need right now.
Thomas Brown
October 9th, 2012
11:17 am
Todd Grantham ?
George O'Leary
October 9th, 2012
11:19 am
I’m available. Give me a call.
pb
October 9th, 2012
11:23 am
The ship is still sinking at GA Tech. Throwing Al Groh overboard may have delayed the sinking, but will not stop it. Eventually CPJ has to go. He is the one in charge, and ultimately responsible for their poor showing. Can’t see things really improving that much in the short term at North Avenue, until Johnson goes.
Thomas Brown
October 9th, 2012
11:30 am
George O’Leary is head coach at UCF, who beat Mark Richt, making $ 1.4 million dollars a year.
GT man
October 9th, 2012
1:01 pm
Get somebody that can teach a defensive back how to cover a receiver instead of letting them catch the ball then tackling them.
Doo Yah Wreckin
October 9th, 2012
2:38 pm
Just who is this Groh feller?
JSS
October 9th, 2012
7:40 pm
30 Ps… Freaking amazing… I’m going to at you folks the rest of the year…
Gr8 2B aFuzzyB
October 9th, 2012
8:11 pm
Seems to me that Johnson’s is very mistake prone and he’s now desperate to save his own job. Groh – mistake. How about going for it on 4th down on the very first possession in your own end – after another rotten attempt at drawing the opposition off sides and then thinking long about it in a time out. Still made the MISTAKE. Then how about the safety after a botched kickoff return – why wouldn’t you run a dive to get a couple yards before trying to beat the defense around the corner?? MISTAKE.
Elvis the Falcon Fan
October 11th, 2012
11:48 am
IF CPJ gets handed his exit visa, and IF you want a strong hard hitting defense, and IF you want someone who understands a balance in offense and IF you want a coach who players will want to come play for (recruiting)……Bill Cowher.