Braves’ Frank Wren needs to fix good, but not great, team

Michael Bourn may have played his last game for the Braves, who have some big decisions to make this offseason. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Center fielder Michael Bourn may have played his last game for the Braves, who have some big decisions to make this offseason. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Once you get past the fact that the Braves waited until game No. 163 to resemble baseball’s all-thumbs team, and that a major league umpiring crew just made the NFL’s replacement referees look fit to be air traffic controllers, this is what the 2012 season really comes down to: The Braves’ margin for error this season was just too narrow.

They won 94 games. That’s impressive. They went 20-9 down the stretch after it looked again like they were circling the drain. That’s really impressive. But what really pushed this team into the postseason were two unexpected occurrences: 1) A 40-year-old (Chipper Jones) unexpectedly hit .300 for most of this season, had two walk-off homers against Philadelphia (the second when the club looked comatose on Sept. 2), and finished second in game-winning RBIs (12) and third in go-ahead RBIs (18) despite missing 50 games; 2) Kris Medlen went from middle reliever to emergency starter to channeling Cy Young.

Unexpected occurrences can make a good team look like a great team. But it’s not something anybody should count on.

The Braves’ lineup still is a bit heavy on “could be” and “should be.”

Some questioned whether general manager Frank Wren should have brought back predominantly the same roster after the team’s unraveling in 2011. But it was an understandable risk. He could make the case that one horrific finish was an aberration. There is no case now.

The Braves are losing Chipper Jones. There’s a good chance they’re going to lose center fielder and leadoff hitter Michael Bourn to free agency. Catcher Brian McCann just suffered through the most miserable season of his career, and health issues are an increasing concern. If Martin Prado is viewed as a comforting backup plan at third base, that leaves left field open.

That’s four of eight positions.

When the 2011 season ended, the heat was on manager Fredi Gonzalez and his staff (hitting coach Larry Parrish was fired). That’s not the case after Friday’s Wild Card game loss to St. Louis. The onus now is on Wren. He needs to improve a lineup that too often struggled to score runs, even during a hot September.

Wren said Saturday he’s “very optimistic about where we sit as a franchise.” He referenced the team’s young core (Jason Heyward, Freddie Freeman, Andrelton Simmons), the late-season bounce back of Dan Uggla and pitching. That’s a good start. But these aren’t minor issues that need addressing.

“I think they need some pieces,”  the outgoing Jones said. “But Frank will have a good time with all the money he’s going to have this offseason to try to get those pieces.”

There’s potentially $36.345 million coming off the books for just four players: Jones ($14 million), Derek Lowe ($10 million of dead money), Bourn ($6.845 million) and Jair Jurrjens ($5.5 million). The assumption is Wren will exercise club options for both McCann ($12 million) and Tim Hudson ($9 million).

How might payroll flexibility change the dynamic in the Braves’ offseason? Wren, handcuffed by budgetary constraints in the past, joked, “We may shop in a different store.”

So not Wal-mart?

“We may go up the street to Target,” he said.

When told that, Jones — who remembers when payroll size wasn’t an issue like now — cracked, “I guess that’s good to hear. Maybe one day we’ll get back to Macy’s and Dillard’s.”

Wren said it won’t be a great free-agent group (one reason why Bourn is expected to land an astronomical contract). The Braves more likely will need to acquire talent through trades. The other issue will be leadership, particularly with the loss of Jones. Heyward and Freeman will be expected to take on expanded roles. The Braves have gone through several transitions over the past decade, but this one might be the most difficult.

It’s also something nobody in the organization wanted to be focusing on so soon — one game — into the postseason.

“Anytime you get this close, you want to take advantage of it because you don’t know what’s going to happen next year,” Gonzalez said. “Chipper’s not going to be here. We’ve got to sign [Bourn]. You don’t know if you’re going to be healthy next year. We may not have had the sexiest team out there, but we were good.”

Not great, just good.

By Jeff Schultz

263 comments Add your comment

BraveFan

October 7th, 2012
11:14 am

Keep in mind that there is risk with every player you decide to use and especially those you choose to pay big $$. I think a 1 yr risk on Mac is probably a bargain unless you want to go bargain and take smaller risk on Ross as everyday catcher.

Prado should be signed long term. One of his values is that he looms over Uggla this offseason as a 2nd baseman if he does not change. We may not be able to trade him right now but he could go route of failed overpaids and ride buses in Mississippi if he can’t make some changes. I would look for top players at 3rd, CF, LF on the market. Whichever we don’t sign we fill till the right time.

Resign Huddy and Maholm options. Bargains for starters. Medlin an Minor with them and hope Delgado, Teheran finally step up. Beachy back mid season possibly but may be pen help.

Bullpen should be good again. Kimberly, venters, Oflaherty and cobble the rest together like we always do. Fredi does deserve credit for bullpen this year. Very good job.

Can’t wait to see what we do with a little money for a change. Make it count Frank Wren.

BUSTERBrave

October 7th, 2012
11:16 am

Tommy Hanson for Peter Bourgeous….fast centerfielder with Angels….Hanson’s hometown team.Also,possibilities are Rajia Davis….outfielder,can play centerfield and has as many SB’s as Bourn……Lorenzo Cain…..centerfielder with KC….fast and can hit………… too much $$$ for speedy centerfielder on a lonf term contract for Bourn

The rev al

October 7th, 2012
11:22 am

The Braves need to resign Bourne. If they don’t it will be a sure sign that they aren’t serious about building a long term winner. Bourne is a good hitter,great outfielder and a major base stealing threat and run generator as a lead off man. Of course they need to do a lot more than resigning Bourne but that is a key starting point. What tells me they won’t pill the trigger? Guess they won’t mind seeing him in a phillies or Nationals uniform. Both teams have expressed a high level of interest.

Banned Poster

October 7th, 2012
11:29 am

If I was Wren, I would start the offseason off by picking up the option on McCann and then trade him. His health is a big reason why his future for this team is not behind the plate. With no reasonable place to put him elsewhere in the field, a trade would be the most logical thing to do. Resign Ross to be the primary catcher in case young Bethancourt is not ready for primetime. If the youngster is ready, Ross is still a very capable backup. Use McCann and Uggla as trade bait for a hitter – either 3B or LF. Prado can take over 2B. Resign Bourn or go after Shane Victorino (who might be a cheaper option in CF) or roll the dice and make a play for Josh Hamilton. As for 3B, I don’t know. Not many guys out there right now who are available. San Diego sounded like they were trying to unload Headley so it probably wouldn’t hurt to call and see if he is available.

As for pitching, I say for the most part it is setup fairly well. Hudson is a strong veteran to bring back and I don’t think this year was a flash in the pan for Medlen. He pitched well in the Wild Card game and came undone by his defense (when a pitcher gets you ground balls, you’re supposed to make outs). Beachy will be back in June or July and Minor came on strong in the 2nd half. The team does need to make a decision on the 4th and 5th roles. I don’t think Tommy Hanson is the answer. He has regressed over the last two seasons instead of progressing. He can’t hold runners and he can’t seem to get himself out of jams. I think it is time to cut bait and see what, if anything, you can get for him. The 5th job can go to either one of the rookies who finally show they can get their act together. Paul Maholm should NOT be brought back on this team. He wasn’t that big of a help and his career numbers are mediocre at best.

The Braves didn’t win 94 games by mistake. Heyward came back strong and showed us his power. He will only continue to get better. Freeman displayed some nice power, but did seem to hit a slight sophmore slump. I say he bounces back next season and becomes a legit .300, 25HR, 100RBI guy. These two are the cornerstones and the lineup should be built up around them. The Nationals played above their heads this year (look at all those HRs) and won 97 games. The Braves have a very legit shot at winning the NL East next year. Wren just needs to make the right moves to get them over the hump.

We wuz robbed

October 7th, 2012
11:30 am

To Stinger2….No I am not a Clusters, but he knows baseball, and I wish I knew him. You, on the other hand, are an enabler. I have read your posts all year, and some make sense; but there is no need to stalk Sonny Clusters because of your jealousy. Chipper should have been busting his butt to get to first, but instead he slowed down. After all his years of playing a person would think he could throw the ball without making an error that lost the game for the Braves. I for one am sick and tired of the Rah Rah Chipper fest. Lets have a “team” for once that cares.

Mister Frisky

October 7th, 2012
11:35 am

Is the the same Schultzy who wrote that standing pat with that pathetic impotent line up was the right move this past season?Guess you are having a Come to Jesus Moment three years later than the rest of us,welcome to the party.This line up has sucked since 2010.Malone and Liberty have plenty of money.Not having it and not wanting to spend what you have are two different things.Chipper finally gone thank God.Bourn walks thank God.And for Gods sake no McCann or Uggla in 2013.

Jim

October 7th, 2012
11:44 am

PLEASE DO NOT spend the money on McCann. He is a double play machine and a defensive liability. Go with Ross and Betacourt from Richmond. Use the money along with the other to get a 3rd baseman or two outfielders. Would pick up the option on Hudson.

southern hope

October 7th, 2012
11:44 am

Is there an al-alon group for braves supporters? All of you talking about future years? I’m sadder, angrier, more bummed out than I was on Friday (and I was pretty low on friday). and the fact that some teams are still playing? its too much….seriously. :(

Mister Frisky

October 7th, 2012
11:57 am

CLUSTERS RULES!

What Do You Expect?

October 7th, 2012
12:03 pm

This is the same brain trust that was shopping Prado in the off season, that dubbed Pastor the starting SS, that tinkered with Hanson’s delivery, that keeps clueless FG while learning on the job, that in the off season did not address the need for hiiting with RISP. The record was indicative of good pitching. Please make some better decisions and changes that will result in more wins.

Sonny Clusters

October 7th, 2012
12:13 pm

We was wondering . . . what position player has a guaranteed job in the spring? The All-Star at second base? Simmons? McCann? Will the Braves allow someone to win a position during spring training? Or will they decide Pastornicky fits here and Uggla fits here and we send Constanza to the minors again? Is Hanson guaranteed a spot in the rotation? Hmmm. . .

We wuz robbed

October 7th, 2012
12:16 pm

So true What Do You Expect? Would bet my paycheck the dufe fg will be back. And I also have the sinking feeling that Wren will not be allowed to spend much money. After all, it belongs to liberty media, and it been so obvious they don’t care about a team, only how much money is in the bank. I am still disbelieving what happened Friday night. It was the cruelest way to end a season. Hope that umpire gets hemroids, and zits the size of boils.

wondering

October 7th, 2012
12:32 pm

Aren’t there position players in AAA & AA that are ready to move up and fill some of these openings next year?

kazoo

October 7th, 2012
12:43 pm

Losing Bourn would be a big blow to the team. Good leadoff hitters are hard to find. Recall what happened when Braves lost Furcal–they weren’t the same. It would have been smart to resign Bourn months ago–but I assume he and his agent didn’t want to do that. McCann’s body seems to be breaking down–not sure how that will play out. There is a report today–perhaps just a rumor–than the Braves will go after Grienke with the Angels. But it also says that Angels would like to keep him–and if so that would mean the Braves would have to give him a monster contract. Braves had a good team this year and were victimized by the stupid new play-in game.

Art

October 7th, 2012
12:54 pm

Hopefully 2013 the Braves will have Bourn in CF. Braves need a right handed hitting left fielder and they need Uggla at 3rd and put Prado where he should be and that is 2nd. The rotation needs to be tweaked with Hanson finding what is wrong and getting Hudson signed up for another 3 years. Other than 1b, ss, rf, c are fine.

Better Decisions Start With

October 7th, 2012
1:45 pm

Brian McFann should be willing to give a hometown signing extention that has a base salary of $6 Millon and incentives based clauses that insures the justification.

Stinger2

October 7th, 2012
2:13 pm

Clusters: This is the first time I have used your name in quite a while. I am doing it now only because you (by calling me Stalker) just posted (not for the first time) about me wearing Braves pajamas. You are getting very personal talking about what I wear in bed.My wife is the only one who has authority to determine my night attire or lack thereof.Mr Nosey Clusters I assure you its never Braves pajamas. As for you, have a nice winter.
Maybe you can go to the Dairy Queen more often now that you will not be hearing so much about the team you are always finding something negative to say about.

J Matt

October 7th, 2012
2:24 pm

Pretenders all season . . . Wren & Company always the best at ‘rationalizing’ reasons for for poor performances or managing decisions. Really have to wonder about talent evaluation or ability to develop talent in too many situations. Probably nice locker room but who are dynamic leaders with heart? Already making excuses for not signing Bourn. They won’t spend. Any other top notch catching talent in system? McCann wearing down fast. Too bad they didn’t have guts to make play for Francona. Fresh, proven voice with ability to bring energy and heart to team.

Slammin' Helmets, and Breakin' Bats!

October 7th, 2012
2:56 pm

Nice post, Banned Poster, I agree with almost everything you said. I’m not a big fan of Victorino, though, and would rather the Braves go for J. Upton (still a lot of upside) or Pagan. I think the Braves should give another go at Cody Ross as well.

Slammin' Helmets, and Breakin' Bats!

October 7th, 2012
2:57 pm

@J Matt: Well, we’ve got both Evan Gattis and Christian Bethancourt. Although, I doubt Bethancourt will be ready for the big club next season.. Gattis on the other hand, deserves a chance, in my opinion.

Sonny Clusters

October 7th, 2012
3:32 pm

Little Buddy, you’d have to show us a wife for us to believe that! But we do believe the part about somebody else dressing you. Momma, maybe?

Mister Frisky

October 7th, 2012
3:41 pm

@J Matt,Great insight.John the Liar and Fat Frank always have their loser rationalization ready for the inevitable October flameout.Do us fans a favor sac up or pack up.Build us a team for once that can win it ALL.Not these dog squeeze p&?()-s that are built to loose the play in game.The prosecution rests.

Stinger2

October 7th, 2012
4:05 pm

Clusters: Goodbye. Go on a deer hunting trip with someone (Chipper won`t be an option for you) and make it a long one. When you get back maybe you can find something constructive to do since you will not have many blogs until the winter meetings.

Norm

October 7th, 2012
4:35 pm

My wish list for Wren:

- Josh Hamilton, CF
- David Wright, 3B
- Someone else at 2B

Delbert D.

October 7th, 2012
4:58 pm

I’d rather see Uggla in center field than Josh Hamilton. That guy is untouchable in my book. The guy is a former junkie and a current alcoholic.

Ralph

October 7th, 2012
5:13 pm

BUSTERBrave

October 7th, 2012
11:16 am

Tommy Hanson for Peter Bourgeous

Peter Bourgeos, 220BA, 3 HR, I think we’ve been there, for quite a few years in a row, please don’t go back to that.

JNick

October 7th, 2012
5:13 pm

New rule: if you misspell a player’s name in your post, your entire post is invalidated.

Ralph

October 7th, 2012
5:14 pm

BUSTER, I agree with one thing, Tommy Hanson for anything of value.

Dirty Boyd

October 7th, 2012
5:41 pm

Frank Wren!s insufferable smugness is already on display. Why do I have so little confidence that Wren will wisely spend the money freed up by Chipper/Lowe etc?

Mike

October 7th, 2012
5:45 pm

McCann is a 6 time all star. Hes one of the best hitting catchers in the game. Now he has one bad year and yall want to get rid of him. He will bounce back next year. Plus didnt alot of you want to put prado as a utility player after last year. Calm down!

Sonny Clusters

October 7th, 2012
6:13 pm

If we was going to do something with McCann we’d try to get him off the french fries and milkshakes. If he was to take some of the putty off he might be more durable and maybe he could stay healthy. One thing we was noticing this year and that was the several times McCann never got leather on a pitch and it would hit the umpire. That cannot be a confidence builder for the ump standing back there. McCann may be delivering a message when he does that. One like, I am not very good defensively.

Sonny Clusters

October 7th, 2012
6:18 pm

We don’t wish to be mean to that little fella but he just won’t leave us alone. He’s telling us to have a good winter so maybe he’s going to hibernate in his pajamas. As for us, we’ll still be posting some baseball only it won’t be baseball season. We’ll gather ’round the hot stove and eat some bratwurst sausages and spit some seeds and belch and phart and talk about how we left it all on the last blog. Come to think of it, golly, gee, gee willikers, little buddy may just want to join us. Go Braves. Fix what’s wrong.

John Leonard

October 7th, 2012
6:44 pm

B Mac has not hit for two years,and has never been anything but a poor defensive player,along with his ailments,he can’t see well.Now the boy played good offense for the first four years,but is not worth the 13 mil.Pick up a defensive catcher to go along with Ross and put that 13Mil to pick up one of the opther needs we have,if we can trade Uggla,do it,not likely with that salary,but who knows,maybe some team needs his hustle.You have to make and offer to Bourn to get the draft pick,but please don’t sign him,we can find anybody to K 150 times plus a year.The problem is there aren’t a lot of options out there,Pagan is the best option for us,but at what cost?

superiorblogman

October 7th, 2012
7:08 pm

playmeortrademe
October 7th, 2012
10:11 am

Blow it up. Wipe it out. Close the door on the Bobby Cox era. Change everything, get rid of the tomahawk and the damn chop that blares incessantly like “Rocky Top” at a Tennessee football game. Trade Uggla and pay 70% of his contract. Don’t pick up the option on McCann, he’s done. Start Ross for a year until the stud catcher in the minors is ready. Use the $45million or whatever to get some real players and build around the young staff, Heyward. Freeman, Simmons, and Prado.

Co-sign this post for the most part.

Lynn Fowler

October 7th, 2012
9:00 pm

Keep Hudson, Sent Hanson on his way. Put McCann on first and move Freeman to 3rd. David Ross is a good catcher.

Delbert D.

October 7th, 2012
9:16 pm

Ross at 36 has far less wear and tear than McCann. If he can come back strong by early summer, do the team and McCann a favor and trade him to the AL before the deadline. He possibly has several good years left as a DH. Jim Thome is in his early 40’s.

Dirty Boyd

October 7th, 2012
9:39 pm

Ladies and gentlemen … Nate McLouth with a big 2-run single for the Orioles.

bulldogbubba

October 8th, 2012
12:54 am

It looks like the new president may have to have a “peace summit” between Clusters and Stinger2. What a tough job that will be!! “Circle the wagons Ann I am going in”.

Josh Hamilton? Seriously?

October 8th, 2012
1:24 am

Hamilton is an eyelash away from total self destruction again. Shows all the signs of it the last few weeks of the season in Texas. The last game he dropped a fly ball, jogged after it, halfheartedly threw it back in and then bristled when the manager got on him about it.
He’s going to sign a huge contract and then break some organizations’ heart in crunch time. We don’t need that.
Trade Hanson and Uggla? Puhleeze. Who in MLB is going to give you anything for those two, and you’d have to eat most of Uggs’ contract anyway.

superiorblogman

October 8th, 2012
1:45 am

What about Uggla and Delgado for Carlos Gonzalez? Uggla is owed $39 million while Delgado is up for a raise also.

Gonzalez is owed just $71 over the next 5 years which is $14 mil per, which is just $1 mill more than Uggla.

collegeballfan

October 8th, 2012
7:14 am

Sign the best power hitter you can get that can play LF, CF or 3B. I assume Uggla is under contract for a few years yet. Wren has some flexibility with Prado able to play LF or 3B.

GDM

October 8th, 2012
9:32 am

Personally, I think the Braves will be a better team without Chipper. No doubt he is a Hall of Fame offensive player, but his defense has always been questionable and unfortunately it showed up again
Friday. Has anyone mentioned Shane Victorino in center field and leadoff. He totured the Braves while in Philadelphia, and would probably be cheaper than Bourn. I agree we need to trade Hanson and Francisco for a right handed hitting left fielder, put Prado at third and leave him there. His defense is far superior to Chipper’s.

DawgDad

October 8th, 2012
10:26 am

The Braves flaws were exposed Friday. The top of the lineup did nothing until the game was essentially decided, the overpaid aging veterans broke down in the field, and the rookie shortstop, for all his obvious talent, flashed his inexperience.

The middle of the Braves lineup in 2012 was age 23-40-23, no player in his prime. This offseason presents a rare opportunity to turn the page on past over-inflated contracts and focus on building around the 23-year old core and the young pitching. Take another shot at playing for a wild card and we’ll get years more disappointment. Go find some young, athletic players and stop giving huge contracts to plodding dinosaurs.

Whatever you can do to move Dan Uggla, by all means move him. With good young pitching build a strong defense up the middle. Offer McCann and Bourn reasonable contracts, not too long in term, and if they balk let them walk. And, finally, find a right-handed power hitter to play left field and bat fourth between Heyward and Freeman.

Food for thought: The Braves finished four games back of the Nats. I wonder what would have happened if LaRoche was playing first base in Atlanta, not Washington. Penny-wise, pound foolish.

Tumbledown

October 8th, 2012
10:49 am

I say yes to Victorino and no to Bourn. SV has played for a winning organization and is a winner. Bourn came from Houston and is too familiar with losing. I do not remember Bourn doing anything to win crucial games down the stretch. Braves need to think back to 1990-91 when they surrounded their young team back then with quality players from winning clubs (Bream, Pendleton, and Belliard). No to losing players like Bourn and Uggla, and yes to SV and similar-type players.

Only News I want to Hear is........

October 8th, 2012
11:01 am

The only news I really want to hear about the Atlanta FLOPS Braves is that Fredi Gonzalez has been FIRED……that Tommy Hanson has been released as well as JJ, and that Brian McCann has been traded for somebody who can hit……

Tami

October 8th, 2012
11:05 am

dawggirl
October 6th, 2012
4:46 pm

They need to throw out that lineup and start over. Keep Freeman, Heyward and Prado. Throw out everyone else.

Perhaps. But that would cost way more money than Liberty’s going to {{cough}} up to allot to the Braves’ Brass. Gotta TRY to keep Bourn (can’t hit, but can run and play CF), and definitely keep McCann (and get him diagnosed, operated on if it comes to that ASAP, and fixed in time for at least the start of 2013 season). And hope with the extra $$$$$$$$ that the Braves Brass can attract the rest of the pieces of the puzzle. Maybe they have a Macy’s or a Dillard’s outlet store??? LOL

bravesfan82

October 8th, 2012
11:27 am

I say don’t sign Bourne because we need to THINK RH and If Wren is a betting man he should go after one of the Uptons one will do and I don’t care who. I would send and I know I am gonna catch flack but to Arizona Fransisco Pastorniky and Sean Gilmartin to the D-backs for Upton and Bloomquist. Then trade Uggla to Seattle for Chone Figgins, then trade Hanson and Terdo to SD for Volquez.

Line up for 2013
Figgins 2b
Simmons SS
Freeman 1st
Upton RF
Prado 3rd
Heyward CF
Reed Johnson LF
Evan Gattis C
Rotation
Volquez
Minor
Medlen |
Teheran
Delgad

Rick C

October 8th, 2012
11:56 am

bravesfan82, your suggestions are unrealistic and don’t make sense. Heyward is going to stay in RF, he’s best suited there. Gattis has barely any experience at AA, he’s not ML ready. Why trade for Volquez but not pick up the affordable options on Hudson and Maholm? And it’s questionable if Delgado and Teheran are ready as well.

Klaus

October 8th, 2012
12:41 pm

This winter consider doing the following:

Trade Mac (AL team), Uggla (DET with cash) and Hanson (anywhere) for a combination of prospects and or ML ready talent.

Focus on getting a defensive catcher. Mac is not going to work as the core of the offense going forward but you are paying him like he will. Trade him before he has no value.

Put Prado back at 2B where he should have stayed. Decline Hudson’s 9mm option (it is not 13) and offer him a 1yr 5mm to be a #3-4 starter. He will take it.

Release the entire bench apart from Juan & Ross. Pastornicky is a toss in as part of trade IMHO not some super utility player find for ATL.

Trade an arm pkge to Texas for Elvis and then trade one of Elvis or Simmons to AZ for Justin Upton. While I like Simmons he makes a bone head play almost every game. That is either a maturity thing or a yip that may stick around.

Sign BJ Upton for CF – Bourn will cost too much and he faded badly at the plate in the 2H.

Make a run at Greinke and or Peavy for your Ace spot.

I would rather have Peavy’s power arm in the rotation over Hanson’s and possibly Hudson. Greinke is the Ace you don’t have today. He may not come here but a player of his caliber is needed to anchor this rotation.

Give Juan a shot a 3B with the requirement he gets in better shape over the winter & works on his approach at the plate and at 3B.

Use one of the trade scenarios above to get a 3B prospect into the system for insurance.

BTW If Terds name comes up again as the replacement for Chipper we are screwed. He is not very good. A better version of Pastornicky at 3B.

Some other cocktail of players may work but in 2013 we need new faces in CF, LF and 3B at a min with 25% of the rotation and 75% of the bench replaced.

I don’t think Wren does this and that is why he should be flushed along with JS & McGuirk. They have this desire to white wash the previous season and convince fans their tweaks or ill advised all ins moves (Uggla, Lowe, KK) could have worked.

If you want to put away other teams you need a FO with a killer instinct. The Braves lack that and quite frankly so does Fredi. I would broom the lot.

Bottom Line – Had Chipper not pulled out all the stops and more importantly Medlen become a temporary Maddux this team would have missed the post season, possible by 6 games.

To say they were so close is being in denial. No one expected Chipper to play like he did down the stretch and Medlen was doing OK in the pen before he became an unhittable write in Ace.

Wren is lucky more than he is smart. Without the safety net of Chipper his luck will run out should he chose to “tweak” his way into 2013.

Frankly I am fine with him face planting in 2013 bc I just don’t see the Braves doing more than what we have seen of late with him driving. I want to see the FO flushed and Fredi with them.

Sorry but as a 25 year Braves fan I know what great looks like and this FO team is not great. JS is a shadow and the rest are empty suits hiding behind “budget” for their ill conceived moves.

enough

October 8th, 2012
1:31 pm

wish everyone would stop saying we’re stuck with uggla because of his salary. you’re never stuck with a player. Even the braves front office has to admit he is a bust. someone will take him. you may have to eat 1/2 or 3/4 of his salary, but someone will take him and you have a little bit more money to spend on replacements. Prado needs to be second baseman if we are going to do anything next year, his bat is not what you want power wise out of a left fielder or thirdbaseman. need right handed power hitting/run producers at third and in left. offset the left handed power of heyward, freeman and mccann provided they bring him back and he’s healthy.