NCAA hits Penn State hard, but ‘death penalty’ appropriate (UPDATED with video)

Mark Emmert moved fast and hit Penn State for their actions (and inactions). (AP photo)

Mark Emmert moved fast and hit Penn State for their actions (and inactions). (AP photo)

(See video blog with CineSports’ Noah Coslov below)

(Updated at 6:40 p.m. with comment from Penn State president that school accepted penalties to avoid death penalty)

Let’s start with this: NCAA president Mark Emmert acted swiftly and justly. That’s a rarity for the NCAA.

Emmert didn’t need a 17-month investigation by an overworked and underpaid staff to unearth something that we didn’t already learn from prosecutors and witnesses in the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse trial, or from the exhaustive, 267-page Freeh Report, conducted by a former director of the FBI. Anybody who believes Emmert moved too quickly on Penn State without the NCAA doing its own leg work must not having been paying attention for the past several decades, when policing college athletics became far too big of a job for that relative mom-and-pop organization.

The NCAA appropriately slammed Penn State Monday for its perceived enabling and cover-up of Sandusky. Emmert referenced an athletic culture “that went horribly awry” and a misguided “hero worship” that led to it. He didn’t bury the lead.

The penalties will double-over every blinded school official, player, fan, alum and misguided individual who hugged and tried to protect the Joe Paterno statute. The school was hit with a $60 million fine, equivalent to one year’s gross revenue for the football program (the money will fund an endowment that will fight child sexual abuse).

There’s also a four-year bowl ban; the loss of 40 scholarships over four years; the freedom for existing Penn State players to transfer to another school without having to sit out a year; the vacating of all victories since 1998, a symbolic punch to the gut for the memory of Joe Paterno. (The quarterback for Paterno’s last official win in 1997: Mike McQueary, whose eyewitness account of seeing Sandusky in the shower with a young boy was ignored years later.)

The sanctions will cripple the football program. But Emmert still fell short.

The NCAA, as I’ve written previously, should have gone one step further and shut the program down for one to two years. It would’ve been more than just a symbolic hit.

There is a need for a cultural change at Penn State, as Emmert himself said frequently Monday, and the “death penalty” would have increased the likelihood of that happening.  It would have prompted anybody who ever took part in a cover-up or ignored whispers about Sandusky to reflect during Saturdays in the fall when football wasn’t being played at Penn State. Beaver Stadium could have been used for weekly prayer vigils for the victims.

Penn State officials need time to process this. They need to consider where, when and why they jumped the rails on their mission. While there’s no question the NCAA’s punishment will make them feel the pain of their actions, nothing can equal the silence of an empty stadium, the absence of weekly pep rallies. No program in history deserves to be shuttered as much as the Penn State football team. We send criminals to jail. We don’t tell them, “OK, you can still go back to that bank that you robbed, but now you’ll have to take the bus, and just don’t do it again.” Penn State needed to lose its freedoms, its privileges.

For some reason, the NCAA apparently gave Penn State a choice. President Rodney Erickson told the Centre Daily Times the school accepted the sanctions to avoid the death penalty: “We had our backs to the wall on this. We did what we thought was necessary to save the program.”

Some believe the death penalty would have been a softer punishment than what Penn State received. I don’t get that. Has anybody seen SMU since the death penalty?

Emmert believes the death penalty would’ve caused “unintended harm” to those who were innocent in this mess. That’s true. Unfortunately, the innocent always get hurt in NCAA probation. New players and often new coaches are in place when sanctions hit for past misdeeds.

Those who believe Sandusky’s crimes didn’t warrant any sanctions because they did not give the school a competitive advantage are missing the big picture. Question: If Jerry Sandusky was a chemistry professor and not a former high profile football coach, do you believe he would’ve been protected? Of course not. Penn State’s actions and inactions were about preserving the competitiveness, image and profitability of the football program.

Even without the death penalty, however, it was encouraging to see Emmert take charge. The NCAA has needed somebody with logic and courage to run things. The hope is that this won’t be an isolated case, because the leaders of college athletics have long since lost perspective.

Emmert said the Penn State case “involves tragic and tragically unnecessary circumstances. One of the grave dangers coming from our love of sports is that the sports themselves can become too big to fail, too big to even challenge. The result can be an erosion of academic values that are replaced by hero worship and winning at all costs. In the Penn State case, the results were perverse and unconscionable.”

They were the perfect words to punctuate the punishment and begin the process of closure. Going one step further would have made it just a little better.

By Jeff Schultz

Here’s my chat with CineSports’ Noah Coslov on the NCAA’s sanctions against Penn State.
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525 comments Add your comment

Lee

July 23rd, 2012
6:38 pm

Most likely, Penn State realized the NCAA could levy the “death penalty” agreed to accept any punishment short of that. The NCAA, realizing Penn State has the deep pockets to drag appeals out for quite some time, made an agreement to “settle” with PS.

Sorta like when a prosecutor makes a plea bargain to charge a suspect with manslaughter instead of murder one.

Schultz, you got the red floppy feet on again

July 23rd, 2012
6:40 pm

Emmett is corrupt. Ok, Washington has a losing record against Oregon the last 10 or so years. Remember, he was student, a cheerleader, and the president. at Washington. Would be a good guess, he loved the school.

Ok, fast forward to Cam Newton. If he keeps Cam out of the Iron Bowl, TCU most assuredly would play Oregon. Who has a better chance at beating Oregon, TCU or Auburn. Well, Auburn, Cam reinstated. No way he should have been involved in the decision regarding Cam, but guess what, he was.

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 23rd, 2012
6:44 pm

Techster

Shut your mouth, you are going to sit there and tell me tech is such a hard school yet 95% of Tech’s football team are in the business school

LOL

Oh and who just got put on probation; yea Tech; If the NCAA dug a little deeper into Tech they would find more improprieties

What a stupid statement coming from a fan whose program just got in trouble

Columbus

July 23rd, 2012
6:55 pm

I disagree Schultz. The “death penalty” wouldnt have lasted but a year or tow and they would have been right back business as usual. This will hurt Penn St football for 8-10 years minimum. This will kill recruiting for years and with the death penalty, they could have still recruited well saying hey, we will be right back….no postseason? kids arent ging to go there for at least 5 years but would have if they got a 1 or 2 year “death penalty. This is WORSE than the death penalty in MANY ways. It is a SLOW and LONG DRAWN out death instead of a quick one when they were back in 2 years full force. It will take 8 years or so before they are back full force and they will get slaughtered on the field te whole time and get to “feel” some serious pain every saturday for years, just like those kids…instead of being put out of their misery with one quick blow that lasted a season or 2. This is worse than the “temporary” death penalty in so man ways….

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 23rd, 2012
6:56 pm

gt75

You stated “Sandusky was not even part of the coaching staff at the time nor was he an employee of Penn State when he did all this”

So you think he just started doing this when he wasnt a coach there; wow what a moronic statement

I thought tech had smart people go to their school

And what if this was a chemestry professor….. umm this involved the football coaching staff at State Penn

So yea the football program should be punished

GTBob

July 23rd, 2012
7:09 pm

GT BOB if penn wanted due process..they would not signed on in agreement ..it is called waive your rights..a lot of people do so when they are found guilty

Oh please. For one, the president of Penn State already came out and said that was the best deal they could get to save the football program. Two, they really didn’t want the PR storm that would ensue if they appealed or took it to court. They had absolutely no choice but to sign or have their athletics destroyed forever.

rangerdawg

July 23rd, 2012
7:11 pm

F penn state and Joe p’s legacy. Seems like some people are more concerned with his legacy instead of the cries of young boys being RAPED in the showers for FOURTEEN YEARS!

shankit

July 23rd, 2012
7:12 pm

Sounds like a little extortion going on in the whole camp.
Your rat on me, I rat on you.
Seems to me Sandusky had something on the whole administration,
else they would not have tried a coverup. Coverup was not to protect
Penn State as much as their own arses.

GTBob

July 23rd, 2012
7:12 pm

Shut your mouth, you are going to sit there and tell me tech is such a hard school yet 95% of Tech’s football team are in the business school

Yeah, our business school is such a joke. That is why it is rated so high nationally, and just got a $50 million dollar donation from an alumni.

Jeff Schultz

July 23rd, 2012
7:23 pm

Dawg ‘88 — You’re one more comment about abortion from getting banned.

shankit

July 23rd, 2012
7:26 pm

Every football player I have ever known, including your first
minority player, that signed under the goal post, after we kicked
one of your Atlanta team’s arses, actually went to Morris Brown,
or enrolled in Industrial Engineering, which trains you to become
a conductor for Norfolk Southern.

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 23rd, 2012
7:34 pm

GT Bob

The business school at Tech is used to pass its football players just like the Crimnology program at FSU was used to pass its players in the 80’s

I guess you missed the point

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 23rd, 2012
7:34 pm

Flat Tire on I-95 in Jacksonville

July 23rd, 2012
7:36 pm

Criminology;

"Chef" Tim Dix

July 23rd, 2012
7:43 pm

Having mulled it over, gotta side with Jeff. Rape has been issued a price tag and its 60M.

GFJacket

July 23rd, 2012
7:49 pm

Flat tire, Tech’s football players have the highest SAT scores of any public university in the country. If you want an objective yardstick to measure what type athletes Tech tries to recruit that is as good as any. And yes, even in the so called easy business school, everyone is required to take a year of calculus. And yes, I know it is a “survey” of calculus. However, it is still much more rigorous than the crip courses that most football players take at other schools.

Dave

July 23rd, 2012
7:58 pm

Who gets the $60 M….it sure as heck ain’t the kids….no, they gotta hire a shyster and get maybe 10 cents on the dollar…only a over zealous academic would want the university to set up a program that hires more academics to oversee the program…..bu,t yes Schultz I agree that nothing is more heinous than hurting children, especially by a perverted mind….

5150 UOAD

July 23rd, 2012
8:06 pm

5150 UOAD

July 23rd, 2012
8:13 pm

Dave @ 7:58…………when the hell did you ever think this was about the KIDS or Higher Education? It is about Football and Football MONEY and not a damn thing more.

shankit

July 23rd, 2012
8:24 pm

Who gets the 60 million? Consultants, forensic experts, attorneys, psychiatrists, matt lauer and nbc commercials, court costs, Big 11 countersuits and claims, and if any is left over, the deserving abused kids. Oh, and it’s all the republican’s fault.

defactodawg

July 23rd, 2012
8:25 pm

Jeff,

Come off some of those big bucks and upgrade to one of those new fangled flat panel monitors in your palatial home office. geez!

seriously, i think the penalties are severe enough without the death penalty. PSU football as we once knew it is dead.

shankit

July 23rd, 2012
8:39 pm

Death Penalty, just an antonym used by the NCAA to express the SMU punishment,
which is not used in modern society. 60 Million in cash, 4 years ban on conference and bowl
appearances, reduction of 60 recruits over 4 years, allowing present players and recruits to
transfer without penalty, (very timely by the NCAA), surrender of all wins from 1998 to 2011,
(penalizes Joe Pa as much as the university), = fans and alum who have contributed large
endowments for season passes, sky boxes, loss of TV revenue, etc. (NCAA has basically
cut off the arms and legs and sentenced Penn State to solitary confinement for at least a
decade or so). SMU got off light.

spartanxx2032

July 23rd, 2012
8:47 pm

FFS, a case of ‘everybody must suffer for the sins of the few’, is a case,not of jurisprudence. Certainly it did not intend this as a result.Calls for death penalty for all of the football team? Nonsense .Get new admin,new coaches, clean house might be a good idea.

Paterno took the fall already, without any sort of due process of law, and now his posterity is being pilloried too, without any due process of law. A dead man, who can not defend himself, so now is time to attack even his legacy,to over shadow the real vile and evil man’s despicable .behaviors.Paterno didn’t even get a chance to defend the allegations What has jurisprudence come to now! I am at a loss for words, for the adjectives that can accurately define the odious abuse. Is this chicanery, is it bribe, is it extortion,blackmail, or simply systemic schizophrenia?

catlady

July 23rd, 2012
8:55 pm

I agree; the death penalty to the program, and perhaps to all those who enabled the monster.

The Austrian Brotherhood

July 23rd, 2012
9:02 pm

“Sports themselves can become too big to fail, too big to even challenge.”

Actually, that’s the Federal government. “Sports” doesn’t have missiles, prisons, and Fascists.

BobDawg

July 23rd, 2012
9:07 pm

GTBOB… on a lesser note, I see why you don’t want the NCAA messing with an institution… kinda reminds you of your messy little probation you got hammered with after you “blew” the NCAA off at Tech last year, right????

[...] State avoided the “death penalty Monday,” but NCAA sanctions were so severe — including a four-year bowl ban — that players are being allowed to transfer to [...]

College Football Fan

July 23rd, 2012
9:27 pm

Jeff, I know you like to blast readers who do not agree with you, but here are my thoughts:

I think that JS should receive the maximum sentence possible for the crimes he committed now that he has been found guilty in a court of law.

I think the other individuals that did nothing to bring the horrible situation to the attention of law enforcement should also be held legally accountable for their lack of action as accomplices after the fact or something, although I know one of them (JP) is dead now.

I also think that they should be pursued via civil litigation by the individuals that were abused by JS and made to pay dearly in a civil court of law for not taking any action to stop the abuse.

That said, I am not certain it is the NCAA’s role to impose sanctions on a university for the criminal actions of a group of individuals that apparently had nothing to do with cheating by breaking NCAA sports rules.

It is the law’s responsibility to go after individuals that committ crimes.

I am no fan of Penn State but this opens the door that may lead down a path that the NCAA and its members may later wish they had not opened.

Should the program at Central Florida receive a similar type of NCAA action because of the circumstances and conflicting statments regarding the death of player Ereck Plancher a couple of years ago? I mean that lead to a death which is certainly as serious as abuse. Its a valid question.

I think that Penn State would be within its legal rights to challenge this action in court with a court injuction preventing the NCAA from imposing even stricter sanctions for not going along with its ruling, while it files a legal challenge to the sanctions.

I remember in the 1990’s when there was strong talk about the FBS pulling out of the NCAA and forming its own organization. A couple more of these and that could happen. That would be a shame.

I deplore the crimes that took place and think that the individuals involved should do the time for the crime, and the victims should have civil recourse.

But in this one college football fan’s opinion, the NCAA has gone too far and set a dangerous precedent by stepping out of the athletic arena and into the legal arena.

Let the law handle it and hold the partys involved responsible for their actions.

Frenchie

July 23rd, 2012
9:28 pm

Typical American reaction.

tdawgmoney

July 23rd, 2012
9:30 pm

you missed this one JS. This is the proverbial “slamming the barn door shut after the horse is out to pasture……or maybe is even “dead” in the pasture. These 18-23 year old kids are penalized….the other schools that play PSU are penalized (money lost) from events of as much as 15 years ago. And where were these “victims” all these years??….all of a sudden they are “coming out of the woodwork” with their stories. True, this whole story and cover up is atrocious…..unimaginable……totally unacceptable…….but this punishment does not fit. Might as well just have made em tear down the stadium…..turn the place into an elder hostile…..nuke the campus……cancel classes for 4 years. The fact is…..though this story is heinous, there is such a thing as overcooked…..sensationalized…..grandstanding (like by the attorneys that no doubt are passing out business cards all over the state) I’m no PSU fan but I’m sickened that Paterno’s statue is down…..when the man is dead…..no opportunity to defend himself. Ironically, the school swiftly removed his monument but how quickly will they refund his personal financial contributions (well into the several millions)……you bet your sweet Nittany behind that won’t happen. Ridiculous.And you suggest that the alumni will help pay the cost? Are you brain-dead? Alumni will get fired up and contribute to a stadium, a sports complex, maybe even a dorm……but certainly not to pay a bunch of ambulance chasing attorneys and eleventh hour victims. I always liked you Jeff, but you’ve turned “Terrence Moore” stupid on this one.

SEC Fact Finder

July 23rd, 2012
9:44 pm

Dr. Mark A. Emmert has been the President of National Collegiate Athletic Association since November 1, 2010. Dr. Emmert served as President of University of Washington since June 14, 2004. He served as the Chancellor of Louisiana State University from April 1999 to June 2004. He served as Chancellor and Provost of the University of Connecticut from 1994 to 1999. He served as Provost and Vice President of Academic Affairs at Montana State University, where he held administrative …

Lets look at Mark Emmert a little closer. UCONN-UConn faces a postseason ban because of several years of low scores on the NCAA’s Academic Progress Rate. The school argues the penalty was applied retroactively and hurts current students, who had nothing to do with the low scores.

But this type of academic performance has not just started at UConn, this academic graduation was at 28% of student athletes in Basketball when he was president/provost.

Montana-another former Emmert stop over-

The NCAA notified the University of Montana on Jan. 30 that it is investigating the Grizzlies football team, though the particulars of the investigation are unknown.

Kevin McRae, the associate commissioner of higher education for the Montana University System, released the NCAA’s Letter of Inquiry to the Missoulian a little after 5 p.m. MDT on Wednesday.

The announcement came after the media asked for specific information about a possible NCAA investigation. UM already is the subject of investigations by the U.S. Departments of Education and Justice into its handling of sexual assault and harassment allegations. According to the billingsgazette this behavior was well know while Emmert was the President.

Emmert did the right thing in hammering programs with Money penalties, it probably should have been 120 million or more while leaving the scholarships alone would have been more appropriate in my opinion. Hurting kids who had NOTHING to do with decisions made by coaches, administrators, and child molestors.

I would prefer the NCAA use MAJOR monetary penalties and bowl bans over scholarship reductions. The one exception is of course if a student athlete is proven to have broken rules and he or she should be ruled ineligible. Money talks in this environment but the dollar penalty has to be strong enough to make the statement and it hurts those who allowed the rules to be broken.

SEC Fact Finder

July 23rd, 2012
9:46 pm

“Emmert did the right thing in hammering programs with Money penalties, it probably should have been 120 million or more while leaving the scholarships alone would have been more appropriate in my opinion. Hurting kids who had NOTHING to do with decisions made by coaches, administrators, and child molestors”

Hurting kids not in the Sandusky case, but hurting student athetes…I should have been more clear.

Penalizing kids on scholarship is what I should have said.

Sopwith Camel

July 23rd, 2012
9:51 pm

Schultzie, you said that Penn State will lose 40 scholarships over 4 years. I understood that they would lose 20 per year for 4 years. But I’ve seen it quoted in several articles that they are to lose 10 per year and in several other articles that they were to lose 20 per year. Which is correct?

[...] Penn State said previously they accepted penalties from the NCAA to avoid the Death Penalty. Gary Schultz of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution wonders why they got a choice.  [...]

Paul in NH

July 23rd, 2012
10:47 pm

I can’t disagree with the severity of the penalties against PSU – anyone who read the Freeh report had to be disgusted and angry at the school – but I though this quote from Emmert was a little rich

“Programs and individuals must not overwhelm the values of higher education.”

This coming from the head of an orgnization that has long since sold itself to network TV for the almighty dollar. An organization whose members don’t even know what time their games are going to be played until informed by their paymasters. An organization that funds itself by running a 3 1/2 week tournament for which TV pays approximately $1 Bn / year. Yep – NCAA division 1 sports is all about the educational mission.

Disgusted

July 23rd, 2012
10:54 pm

The Paterno statute could serve best if it were recycled in secret.

I have no feeling for Penn State that they would keep that Pig around and you have to wonder how many kids did not get abused before 1998.

Perverts do not start their stuff in their 50’s. How many kids could have been abused before 1998???

We will never know.

No excuses, ovearll the punishment was fair. Best wishes is for the current players who had nothing to do with this.

Disgusted

July 23rd, 2012
11:03 pm

Covering up for that Pig Sandusky is the worst violation in American Sports history.

SMU and the U of Miami in their most arrogant days were choir boys compared to this.

Its a good precedent, cause no coach will cover for this disgusting garbage again, I just hope that the victims who are grown men now can move forward with their recovery and get better for their own souls.

The establishment at Penn State were too big for their own good.

Wilbo

July 23rd, 2012
11:41 pm

Very disappointed in the NCAA. Very. Nothing but the death penalty would have matched the incredible callousness and corruption of protecting and enabling a pedophile solely to keep the football program sailing along.

Sautee Dawg

July 23rd, 2012
11:49 pm

Jeff I agree with you, empty seats for the next 2 seasons at Beaver Stadium would have sent a message to the fans, alumni, and faculty that this was wrong and just how wrong it was. Every football Saturday in Beaver stadium should be spent asking for forgiveness from these victims.
Give them time though Jeff and they’ll be lining up retired Penn State alumni on sportscenter saying how unfair these penalties are for Penn State.
It’s coming jeff. Wait and see!!!

SEC Fact Finder

July 24th, 2012
12:03 am

Question to all of you including Mr. Schultz who wanted the “Death Penalty’. Is there one single person left on the staff, or even in the school administration chain of command involved with this sickening case? No, not to my knowledge in reading everything I have read. The current coaches, players have nothing to do with what went on with Sandusky, or the coverup.

Second question and be honest; If this was your school, they had fired everyone involved, would you still want the death penalty for your school? I extremely doubt it.

You have the right to your opinion. I am more concerned about the 60 million collected being used by every attorney, administrator and other cost that will not go to the direct education and service to the kids who are abused in that area. That 60 million dollars should have been placed in a trust where any kid abused could get the opportunity to go to college, trade school, get counseling and move on with life( if possible).

The facts are is that PSU will be irrelevant for 10 plus years in college football, the stygma associated with this case will last forever and any player who played at PSU will be shamed due to nothing of their making and that is a shame to those players who played, studied, graduated, and went on to be successful in life in due to their time on the campus at Penn St.

The entire case is shameful, however the life long association with the Penn St. name will be something they will have to talk about for the rest of their lives.

Sautee Dawg

July 24th, 2012
12:04 am

Jeff, what people are overlooking is vacating wins is not punishment to somebody who’s passed away. And as far as the $60 million fine goes, Penn St. averages $11 million per home game. This fine will be paid back by the time the season is 3/4 over with. Not getting to have football would have done a better job of opening up some eyes to how serious these crimes were.

SEC Fact Finder

July 24th, 2012
12:26 am

Sautee Dawg

July 24th, 2012
12:04 am
Jeff, what people are overlooking is vacating wins is not punishment to somebody who’s passed away. And as far as the $60 million fine goes, Penn St. averages $11 million per home game. This fine will be paid back by the time the season is 3/4 over with. Not getting to have football would have done a better job of opening up some eyes to how serious these crimes were.

I respect your opinion, but you need to go to SI and read Andy Staples column. It may open your eyes to what having a football season affects and guess what? It is every other sports program, academic facility and program at PSU which affects the students. I as a child disliked PSU but I respected them, I now have major doubts about their program and what Joe Paterno was allowed to control with his power. But a death penalty is just hurting the kids on campus today. I do think the fine should have been double to about 120 million.

Good luck to you and your school this fall.

GTBob

July 24th, 2012
12:51 am

kinda reminds you of your messy little probation you got hammered with after you “blew” the NCAA off at Tech last year, right????

Our probation was at least within the NCAA’s jurisdiction. They didn’t just make up a new bylaw out of the blue like they did with Penn State.

GTBob

July 24th, 2012
12:54 am

The business school at Tech is used to pass its football players just like the Crimnology program at FSU was used to pass its players in the 80’s

I guess you missed the point

No, I think you missed the point. The business school at Tech is a very good, highly rated business school that is harder than any major at UGA. It is not designed to hide football players in like half of UGA’s majors.

DetroitBraves

July 24th, 2012
7:06 am

The problem with the death penalty is all of the innocent people it hits, such as the student body that had nothing to do with it and the rest of the conference and other teams on the Penn State schedule. The SMU death penalty can be argued to have been a death penalty for the old SW conference as well. I don’t believe the NCAA understood the ramifications then the way they do today. What they did to Penn State will be absolutely crushing to Penn State while not quite as crushing to everyone on the periphery. I don’t have a problem with the NCAA’s decision.

Lt Col Razorback

July 24th, 2012
7:59 am

In my opinion the “punishments” meted out to PSU are completely appropriate, but not complete. The “death penalty” for a year in addition to the NCAA’s punishments would make them complete. Besides, the death penalty is not a real death penalty at all. Remember that Southern Methodist University (SMU) was given the death penalty, but they are still playing football, albeit with much less success than they achieved prior to their “punishment”. PSU can and will recover from the punishments leveled against them. Like SMU, the prospects of their returning to the loft heights of a top-ten team again, are remote in the near term; but highly likely in the long run — death penalty or no death penalty.

dean

July 24th, 2012
8:46 am

@Frenchie @ 9:28 7/23:

Was the American reaction to, oh, saving your country a typical one, also?

I imagine the French reaction to child rape is “C’est la vie!”?

F U, frog.

The Flats Are where its At

July 24th, 2012
8:50 am

Bobby B in The ACC…..The GREATEST!. More than Bear, more than old fahhhrrrt Joe…..lol. “This kinda makes free shoes and tatoos look like baby cchhhiit alongside o’ what this maniac is doin “—–was channeling my Buford T Justice.

Bill Payer

July 24th, 2012
9:00 am

Other than Rick Reilly at ESPN, I’ve haven’t seen where any media people admitted that they had a part in the deification of Paterno over his career. The media kissed his skinny ass for years to help put him in a position where he couldn’t be challenged. I lived in PA when Paterno hit retirement age. The administration at the time wanted him to retire. The press went crazy. Eventually the University backed off, and here we are. Now the media is ripping on Penn State like a monkey on a pork chop. They’re a bunch of hypocrites. Next week they’ll be kissing some other athlete/coaches ass. If you don’t think so, just last week the media was acting like if Drew Brees left NO, the world would end. No statues for the living would be a good rule of the thumb going forward.

GT

July 24th, 2012
9:05 am

The sad thing if it had been a chemical professor the odds of him getting caught would have been a lot less. This stuff goes on for years for a reason and very well may be going on in your community right now. Who punishes the rest of us who turn our heads when the woman next door is getting abused or child? I think, sadly, we duplicate this story every day not wanting to get involved. To say these people turned their heads at Penn State and the rest of society doesn’t do this because the motivation of saving a football program is not at stake is wrong. You’re having a good day and then something like this creeps into your life it is very easy to turn your head and keep having a good day.