Richt, Georgia have been hurt by too many recruiting risks

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Jeff, that’s definitely a fear in the back of my mind but I’m hoping for the best. It’s do or die in 2012.

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Surprise, surprise another anti UGA blog by Jeff Schultz.

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I truly enjoy your columns, but this time you are full of crap.

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Darn, I wasn’t first, what a loser I am! Jeff, like Richt said, everyone pretty much recruits the same top high school players. Why is it do you think that these problems almost always happen more at UGA then at any other school?

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Spanky, I don’t think McGarity did that. That was the SEC office that made up the SEC schedule.

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Spanky, no SEC schools have any control over their conference schedule. Follow college football much?

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My confusion with labeling the guys who did not work out as recruiting risks is that those guys were being recruited by most of the BCS schools in the South and out of the South. I do not agree that we recruit risky kids. They come to Georgia and act out and are booted out as they should be.

I think the same thing happens at the other schools too, but those schools are not as transparent about it and the media there are more aliegned with the athletic programs so the public does not hear about it. Look at what Muschamp inherited at UF from Meyer. Meyer left because he lost control of his animals yet all we hear about is the crystal that he won.

You can’t have it both ways unless a sportwriter spins it that way.

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Petrino never had this trouble.

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While I usually enjoy your column, this one stinks. How about some love for the guys who bought in to everything and are doing well despite being brought up in some unfortunate situations. This type of column might be fine for April or May, but I’m getting ready for some serious football with the players who have done everything right. Not, in your opinion, everything wrong.

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Right on PItbull. Miami and FSU won championships in the 90’s with a bunch of stealing, cheating thugs and no one has a problem with that. The problem is UGA does the right thing and hasn’t won a championship. If they one a championship no one would even remember the off the field stuff

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All the majors recruit the same kids and divy them up somewhat equally. Athens and other major college towns have all the same temptations. If you agree on those two points, then it has to come down to Athens PD doesn’t coddle anyone and UGA AA is more transparent than other schools. Period.

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Obviously you missed Richt’s television Q and A later in the day, where he responded “to say there aren’t issues around the country, just isn’t realistic.” It is about time members of this media stood up and held the other schools accountable for their actions or just realized that we play by a different set of rules in Athens. I am not arguing one way or another on whether or not we should change our drug testing policy. I am not saying that we too should have off-duty policemen giving athletes a ride home from the bar. I am not saying that our players should have telephone numbers they call when they get in a little sticky situation. Mark Richt has chosen for them to live by the same rules every citizen does and I respect his decision.

For the media to continuously look toward Athens and point fingers, while almost completely ignoring Jimbo Fisher’s handling of Greg Reid’s drug possession charge “internally” is a joke. Look, I realize Atlanta is the biggest city in the SEC, and we have a lot of people in Athens trying to break a story. It would just be nice to point out what the real problem is. College athletes do not always arrive at their school wise their years. Some schools have learned how to handle the situations that arise and some have chose not to “handle” them. To act like this is a recruiting problem is a joke. To act like this is a UGA problem is a joke as well. We all recruit the same type kids.

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quillian

July 19th, 2012
3:29 pm

Right on PItbull. Miami and FSU won championships in the 90’s with a bunch of stealing, cheating thugs and no one has a problem with that. The problem is UGA does the right thing and hasn’t won a championship. If they one a championship no one would even remember the off the field stuff

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So, what you are saying is that if UGA wins a championship the players can then run amuck and that would be okay.

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It would be nice to have a head coach who seemed to have a solid handle on the program.

How long have we been talking about discipline in the program?

How many seasons have we been trying to rebuild the O-line?

How long has it been since we’ve had a solid backfield?

How much longer before things are fixed on special teams?

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Steve, point taken, but you don’t have to be a douchebag about it!

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Hollywould

July 19th, 2012
3:31 pm

As an AU fan it is just a matter of time before any school loses recruits because of screw-ups. All schools recruit the same 4 and 5 star players. Auburn has had their share just like Georgia. You have to recruit the so-called best players or you will be left behind. Not Richt’s fault.

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Very good point. I believe AU and Bama were recruiting IC hard also. I don’t think it is any of the programs fault. It is home training before they get there. Most of these kids where raised in one parent homes and were not taught how to act right. IC would have gotten in trouble eventually whether he was in Athens, Auburn, or T town. A college coach cannot keep constant tabs on 85 players every minute of every day. They are going to do what they do.

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kerryb, I’m not saying that if they win a championship they can do whatever they want. What I’m saying is that the Bloggers will not be writing stupid articles about how we recruit the wrong guys. I think the way UGA does things is the right way. Just like you pointed out LSU had issues last year, but they won the SEC and made it to the NC game. Do you hear the media making a big deal about their off field issues? No. Don’t be that guy that twists things…..

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Jeff Schultz

Everyone in the country was recruiting the same guys. Speaking particularly of Crowell, Duke and Cal even offered him.

https://twitter.com/Mark_Schlabach/status/218869717602013184

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Great article Jeff.

Our Georgaia Bulldogs are simply mediocre and it’s tolerated (please save the anti-UGA bias here; I’m a UGA grad, fan, and ticket holder).

Get ready for the litany of excuses we’re about to hear from the Richt Sycophant Crowd.

1) Other teams recruit the same players
2) We won 10 games last year
3) We’re only a few plays away from winning the SEC
4) UGA’s drug policy is stricter than other SEC teams
5) The Athens police are out to get UGA players and the Football team
6) Athens is more of a party town and players get into more trouble
7) Insert standard Richt excuse here ___________

The simple fact remains that UGA is mediocre and nothing more and has been since 2005. Many can and will fans like us as “Anti-UGA,” “trolls,” or whatever slander the RSC (Richt Sycophant Crowd) chooses.

I like Richt and think he did some great things and will go down as one of UGA’s best head coaches in history (and in all honestly, a new offensive coordinator could take us back to relevance), but for whatever reason, the Dawgs haven’t really sniffed true title aspirations since 2005 before DJ got hurt. Before we hear the 2007 chants, getting beat by a really terrible South Carolina team and absolutely embarrassed in Tennessee and beating Florida Gators team with an injured Tim Tebow doesn’t really matter that much.

Before you start hurling insults and vitriol, answer this simple question…………….

When is the last time that our Georgia Bulldogs have won a big game of major consequence and importance?

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Jeff, if there was one thing about the way that CMR recruits that you would change, what would it be? Me? I’m fairly certain that there’s more to it than any one of us would consider. I try to give CMR benifits of alot of doubts, but you made some good points! Anyway, I’m sure Les Miles will welcome Crowell to his squad in a couple of years, just like Metty!

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Got meet Coach Richt and Coach Dooley today at the even. Jarvis was dressed out in his black and had the red tie going. One of my former HS football teammates is an assistant at Carver. I asked Paul Finebaum to ask Nick to explain the flip process in recruiting! He said …yeah right!! Just hung out on radio row and had a fun time. The SEC is the Man no doubt. The look on Nick’s face while signing the autographs of grown men and women is pricless to say the least. Had about 6-8 UGA fans fighting for Mark and Jarvis autographs as well. Ice the beer for we’re getting ready for some football. Sheet bout to get real. Roll Tide

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Good God Jeff. What the hell are you talking about. ALL 17, 18, 19 year old kids are riskey. So what. Thats one of the reasons Coaches choose the profession they are in and that is why you should stay were you are. GET OVER IC!!!!!!! he is gone and I for one am not happy that he is. The one thing that is a miss here is the older and supposedly wiser football players that should have been looking out for stuff like this and stopping it in its tracks. I blame Mark Richt for not teaching the leaders of the team how to BABBY SIT! Because that’s what it is!! And the answer is YES they do need baby sitting.

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The 2 or 3 guys a year that do the wrong things get all of the publicity because everyone wants to down UGA. At least we saw a good story on Richard Samuel who has proven that he always thinks of the team first. We need more stories about the other 70 or so guys that are doing things the right way. Hey Jeff, how about writing about them like Chip Towers did the other day. I guess that is not as interesting as the few bad eggs.

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JB

What would the number of lost scholarship players look like if those same players committed the same offenses at another school? There’s no denying the fact that UGA has one of the toughest disciplinary policies in the nation, especially when it comes to drugs/alcohol, and those policies are no doubt inflating the number of “lost scholarship players”. Many of the guys who have booted off the team would most likely still be on rosters at other schools who don’t penalize kids as harshly as UGA. Don’t get me wrong, it’s certainly not a good thing to have lost as many scholarship players as UGA has in the past couple of years, but it’s important to keep these things in proper context.

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Well yeah, that and the Willie Martinez debacle that took a decent defense and made them horrible for several years.

Fact of the matter is Richt and co have not been able to get the best out of their talent the years when they have the best talent.

2007 had nothing to do with recruiting coach.

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To be fair, at Alabama the HC, AD & Team Doctor according to the AJC determine when a football player is suspended, etc. The reality is there are different standards in the SEC and around college football. Fans may think UGA recruits different athletes but the reality is there are more layers of accountability at UGA than for example, Alabama.

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If it takes 10 things to make a great college coach that has it’s program in the hunt on a regular basis, Richt must have about 7 of them. He’s missing something
My list.
1. Lacks killer instinct.
2. Allows under performing coaching to take root
3. Looking at a bigger world than just 24/7 focusing on UGA winning a NC
4. Seems to lack a sense of urgency in recruiting. ( we lose to much cream to out of state0
5. Old worn out FSU play book has no new entries ever
6. Not a very good game day coach ( lately, last 4-5 years)

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The guys booted off the team aren’t because of the diciplinary policy. The suspensions at the beginning of the year that hurt the team are because of the diciplinary policy.

If you get KICKED OUT of UGA, you have DERAILED. Richt like Bowden before him gives guys every opportunity to make the most of thier opportunity.

The guys that got kicked out, have made so many bad decisions they couldn’t continue under any circumstance at the school.

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Falcon 34:
The difference is at other schools the policy is set by AD, HC & Team Doctor. These would be handled internally at other schools. Don’t believe me, then how about the episodes at Florida? Did the players respect Meyer? What about the 4 players at Auburn who committed armed robbery? Did they respect Chizik? What about the incidents with Rogers in the bar fight at UT recorded on various Iphones and the robbery of the on campus 7-11 in Knoxville? Did these players respect Dooley? The UT players didn’t even get in trouble.

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The fact of the matter is that the coaching staff is not doing as good a job at Georgia as they are in other places of maximizing the talent they have available.

It’s been better under Richt at times than under anyone since Dooley, but it’s also been over a decade.

It’s time to win or move on.

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I do wonder what they public outcry will be should Georgia lose to Mettenburger and LSU this season.

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PMC

July 19th, 2012
3:55 pm

The fact of the matter is that the coaching staff is not doing as good a job at Georgia as they are in other places of maximizing the talent they have available.

It’s been better under Richt at times than under anyone since Dooley, but it’s also been over a decade.

It’s time to win or move on.

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That comment has been beaten to death. Try typing something original.

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Schultz, is that German? As in sergent. You do amaze me with sarcasm toward Richt and UGA. Almost disdain. What is your school of choice? Where is your allegiance? Surely, not in the state of Georgia.

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PMC………..There will be no outcry. The New UGA President will either have a spine or not, and if like Adams, He likes Richt and enjoys Florida in December with a mid tier bowl, it will continue.

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JB

July 19th, 2012
4:02 pm

PMC………..There will be no outcry. The New UGA President will either have a spine or not, and if like Adams, He likes Richt and enjoys Florida in December with a mid tier bowl, it will continue.

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Mid tier bowl in December? Why? because you say so?

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PMC:
I forgot about Mettenberger. Another example of UGA getting a black eye and now what a great comeback story of him with LSU. He wouldn’t have been kicked off the football team at any other SEC school except for maybe Kentucky & UGA.

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Skitty — I’m not going to argue with us vs. other schools, and since the SEC doesn’t have a uniform policy, UGA could very well be suffering from unfair rules. I’ll admit that. My arguments has always been (since 2005, to be fair) that Richt simply is not getting the most out of his recruits and when you have a great locker room of leadership and character, you can absorb the occasional “knuckle-head,” but not 10-15 of them. We had that back when our locker room was dominated by Pollack, Green, Shockley, T.Davis, Stinchcomb, etc.

Look, they’re programs may have been dirty, but Auburn (1) and Florida (2) have both won BCS titles.

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Speaking about that Tech LB. Has anyone heard if CPJ suspended him or not?

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Falcon 34:
I understand but just wanted to point out both sides of the coin. I hope CMR wins the dance this year and UGA can have a title also.

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PMC,I think he got a good bit out of a young team last year. See what they do this year.

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All of you people UGA fans or not that keep talking about how CMR has not gotten anything out of recruits, do I have to go over the history since 2008 and tell you why those years happened like they did?

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For a state as fertile in recruiting as Georgia be in the middle of Alabama, Auburn, Florida and LSU winning national titles…. I mean, clearly, theres an issue.

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Kerryb, there is help out there. All you have to do is ask.

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PMC, the problem is that Georgia is also surrounded by five SEC schools and 2 top ACC schools that come in and raid the state. When you’re having to compete with 7 other programs for the same recruits it gets tough. You can pitch your program to them but it’s ultimately their choice and you can’t make that for them. There are even some programs that actually give them or their family money under the table which sways them away. i think the staff has done a good job the last few years getting some quality players. It’s tough when you compete in west Georgia with Auburn, Alabama and FSU, in South Georgia with Florida and FSU, in north Georgia with TN, Clemson, and south Carolina, and in Atlanta with all of them.

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Jeff, you’re a sportswriter with access to the AJC’s recruiting services. You, moreso than anyone, should know things about the kids that are and were recruited by these schools. Please, of the Dream Team, point us to one single piece of evidence that was out there BEFORE Richt recruited these kids, anything, that would suggest they would be problems. I noticed you didn’t in your article because you cannot. Instead you rely on a conclusion (players were kicked off) to make your point (Richt cannot screen appropriately). That’s called circular logic, and it sucks. If you can show me that Richt is acting like Houston Nutt, or Terry Bodwen, I’ll listen, but you can’t. He recruits kids that are relatively upstanding citizens. Some don’t make it through. What a shock that 18 year olds unleashed in a college town may have troubles. Who knew? But that’s more than enough for you to act like Richt has issues in his screening process. Question for you – does Tennessee have a problem? Auburn? What about Greg Reid over at FSU? Who is doing it right, and what are they doing differently?

One day you’ll write actual news pieces. For now. you wait till a press conference or some internet theme pops up that you like, then sit there and make illogical conclusions that the masses will eat up. In other words, the incredible lack of original thought that comes out of your keyboard is enough to make our current congress look smart, savvy and productive.

Congrats on getting hits on the website.

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Sadly, CMR is damned if he does/damned if he doesn’t…the SEC has been a dominant conference the past several years and CMR is doing whatever he can to get in on the mix. These 18 yr old ’superstars’ come in with the same sense of immortality that most kids that age have. The greatest difference is that THEIR mistakes make headlines and CMR’s response becomes fodder for bloggers with differing attitudes. Sad state of affairs for all!

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what is K. Houston’s status???

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Hollywould, you ask any SEC fan outside of the state of Alabama and they would tell you that the two dirtiest programs are Alabama and Auburn. They do it to each other but they will never tell on each other because they know the other school has the same dirt on them. That’s why you didn’t hear a whole lot of complaining about Yeldon and Foster. Auburn just turned the table on Bama doing it to them last year.

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Jeff – you miss the point. This is an enforcement issue, not a behavior issue. A UF player carries an assualt rifle and gets a slap on the wrist. A UGA player carries a beer across the street and gets suspended. If the enforcement was level, I think UGA be cast in a much better light. I suspect at UA and AU, there are a lot of things that happen which we never hear about.

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U – U

G -Get

A – Arrested

ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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“Georgia have been hurt by too many recruiting risks”

Should read: Georgia HAS been hurt….

UGA has been hurt by bad coaching, jail time and prostitution.

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Gary:
You are spot on, it is an enforcement issue, not a behavior issue.

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1980 was a long time ago

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Jeff, isn’t this 11 years of the same issues? Mark Richt is NOT providing the right environment for these kids in Athens. Stop blaming the kids.

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Well

July 19th, 2012
4:36 pm

“In 2007 they did finish #2 in the Nation.”

Yep, terrible year for college football. The number one team lost two games.

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The same thing happened in 2010. AU won the NC but if you look every program that is historically at the top had a bad year that year. Texas lost 5 games that year, Florida lost 5 games, USC was under probation and restrictions. That paved the way for Auburn

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“you ask any SEC fan outside of the state of Alabama and they would tell you that the two dirtiest programs are Alabama and Auburn. ”

Auburn hasn’t been on probation since 1993. Auburn was cleared by the NCAA recently and UGA still hasn’t won anything significant since 1980.

Get over it, mutt fans. UGA is the Chicago Cubs of the SEC.

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What I can’t believe is that all yall do is make excuses for UGA’s perpetual discipline problems, an in particular criminal issues such as IC.

So its okay for UGA to act like a bunch of screwups just because the rest of the SEC does? Everyone quotes the problems at AU, FL, Bama, etc.–WHO CARES! So if your child’s friends are screw-ups, its okay for your child to be a screw-up too? Two wrongs don’t make a right.

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“Hard to compete with teams that have no respect for the the rules at all.”

Another pitiful excuse by a dawg fan. Everybody cheats except for UGA. When UGA loses, which is often, the team that beat UGA obviously cheated. UGA logic is hilarious.

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“Texas lost 5 games that year, Florida lost 5 games, USC was under probation and restrictions. That paved the way for Auburn”

Since when did Texas and USC have ANYTHING to do with Auburn going to the title game?

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” I dont buy the “easy” schedule crap. TX, USC,FSU, and Ohio State have easy schedules every year.”

And not one of those schools has won the national championship in the past 6 years.

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savannadawg………….all 17, 18 & 19 year old kids are risky? Glad I don’t live where you do!

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It is not Les Miles fault he can get something out of players Georgia can’t. I can’t tell if the player is overrated or the coaches are overrated at Georgia. You get one high school player going to Auburn and making that big a difference, seems like that would happen one time at Georgia. Well it did in HW but I am talking about Richt’s era. Auburn was not good before and may not be good again, but that one year and one player when Georgia gets bus loads of them every year. And now they are going to win a division by default and get spun as a contender. Maybe it is time to be honest about what is really happening at Georgia.

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I just love hearing a Tech guys opinion about UGA (sarcasm)

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Bammer, tells us all about the intricate network of “sponsors” that Bama and Auburn have all over the Southeast to carry out their bidding for them.

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Oh, and don’t forget about the “runners”. Tell us about all of the accounts set up from various banks that the runners and sponsors funnel out.

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“That would be Auburn, Yea they lucked up in 2010 in a down year but historically they lose around 4 games a year. ”

Lucked out???? LOLOL!!!!!!! How does a team luck out and go 14-0?????????

Auburn has gone undefeated more times than any other school in college football in the last 30 years, mutt.

“They are becoming like Tech with UGA we’ve beaten Tech 10 out of the last 11 years. We’ve beaten Auburn 6 out of the last 7.”

UGA is the Chicago Cubs of the SEC. If you think Auburn is like Tech then you really are a troglodyte.

“I think Murray just threw another TD pass.”

Murray was on his back the entire 2nd half of the SEC Championship game, dork. Hey, when will UGA ever win a bowl game again?

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Cdpridg

July 19th, 2012
4:56 pm

It is not a UGA problem…it is a breakdown of family ..morals and values in society and it is worse in certain segments of society….that is the answer and anyone that has any sort of education and a open mind to call things as they are knows this.

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That is correct. You can’t teach an 18 year old values when he comes to college. He was either taught that at home or not.

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Jeff, instead of trashing Coach Richt and UGA for signing these discipline challenged players, why don’t you ask the other schools coaches and fans why kids on their campuses never get in trouble. Are we to believe that the other teams players are all choir boys. Are we to believe that the other coaches just instill a better sense of right and wrong to these players once they are on campus?
Could it possibly be that on these other campuses the off the field incidents are handled in house and it never reaches the media light of day? Up until recently we all thought that Penn State ran a tight ship. One never heard of off the field incidents happening in Happy Valley. Now we know differently, don’t we?

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Well

July 19th, 2012
4:57 pm

“That would be Auburn, Yea they lucked up in 2010 in a down year but historically they lose around 4 games a year. ”

Lucked out???? LOLOL!!!!!!! How does a team luck out and go 14-0?????????

Auburn has gone undefeated more times than any other school in college football in the last 30 years, mutt.

“They are becoming like Tech with UGA we’ve beaten Tech 10 out of the last 11 years. We’ve beaten Auburn 6 out of the last 7.”

UGA is the Chicago Cubs of the SEC. If you think Auburn is like Tech then you really are a troglodyte.

“I think Murray just threw another TD pass.”

Murray was on his back the entire 2nd half of the SEC Championship game, dork. Hey, when will UGA ever win a bowl game again?

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WEll, Murray may have been down in the 2nd half of the SEC CG but it wasn;t Auburn doing it. auburn was getting abused by him.

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Jeff, loved the column – right on the money. And how ridiculous are some of the arguments that I’m seeing posted. All 18 year olds are risky? Recruiting a thug is acceptable just because “everyone else is doing it?” Really??? I hope Coach Richt (and, for that matter, our own Coach Johnson) will take a higher road on their recruiting efforts in the future!

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“WEll, Murray may have been down in the 2nd half of the SEC CG but it wasn;t Auburn doing it. auburn was getting abused by him.”

Nah, this is UGA getting abused by Nick Fairly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OMIfeBc_gk&feature=related

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Pretty creepy about the bathroom, Chopdawg.

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Kerryb, you see the problem is Jeff S. is doing his job, Jeff reports for the AJC and that paper is in the state of Ga., those other schools have major new papers who report their problems, don’t get my at Jeff for stating the facts, Kerryb you want to point fingers, make excuses for UGA, these player did what was reported, admit it and hope things get better, that right fix the PROBLEM, try and get to know the kids you’re recruiting in some way or fashion that will not break NCAA rules, Stanford does it, South Carolina does it, if you’re going to be the big dog you got to expect trouble cry baby.

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“dozen pages of bs spewed back and forth between UGA fans and the fans of teams that UGA wipes the floor with more times than not”

Yeah, that’s it. UGA is great ONLY in the minds of mutt fans.

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Well…not to bright are we…if you didnt feel UGA wasnt great or worthy from the beatings you have taken…..you wouldnt be here bub…

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“and the way we were playing in the second half of that season, should have put us in the BCSCG, instead of LSU.”

Nope, not at all. LSU won the SEC and deserved to go. Then again, that year was an AWFUL year in college football.

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@Bammer

The difference is what you do when you’re hot. Bama, LSU, Auburn, and even Tennessee win titles. UGA plays Hawaii.
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I’m sure the SEC powers did everything they could to get that Hawaii matchup. Didn’t want to see another SEC champion getting embarrassed on national television like UGA did against WVU.

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i agree with danny, If CMR doesn’t go after these guys the Fans will jump all on his back for not going after top talent. Recruits sometimes are hit and Miss. All UGA FANS WANTED cmr to get this guy.

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The next dWag player that gets in trouble will have to serve detention at the German teaching cross dressing prostitute’s house.

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How many so-called fans have ripped CMR for missing some of Ga.s best recruits? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t …

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Mr.Schultz… please give some thought to the idea that maybe UGA is tougher on the student-athlete than other schools. Crowell would still be the same person if he wore the Crimson of Alabama, the Orange and Blue of Florida, or the Blue and White of Penn St. Everyone recruits the same guys. You did not see any school withdrawing their scholarship offers to him at any point. No one bailed out and said “we’re out of the running… he’s a bad apple” NO. Maybe it is time to realize that maybe UGA has higher standards that these kids are unable to live up to. That makes much more sense than this “recruiting risks” crap. Jeeeeezzzzzzzzz…..

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kingdaddy is here, brainiac character soon to follow.

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Jeff, how about an article about all of the arrests of Alabama players in Tuscaloosa over the years? Oh wait, there haven’t been any. Must be they are recruiting the “good” student-athletes!

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Schultz,

I believe you’d be more correct to cite the word “alleged,” in that rambo and ogeltree “allegedly” tested positive for marijuana, as oppose to “reportedly.”

I’m guessing you’re going off a comment from a hs coach that was recorded by chip towers, of which has never been confirmed by any other party. Do you have some other source?

Until either the players come forward, the test results are released or a statement is made by the university, let’s wait for the final word.

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Other coaches like Nick Satan recruit players like Crowell as well. So everyone takes the same risks. No logic in a Schultz story. Shocker. Schultz still just doesn’t like Coach Richt because he stood up to him and embarrassed JS publicly. But then again…JS embarrasses himself with his columns and distasteful humor attempts. If I see a JS article compilmentary of UGA….I’ll be stunned.

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grow up dawg’88. Your ignorance is showing.

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Thank goodness, I didn’t go to Athens.
Looking forward to another great year in Tallahassee.

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This article was unnecessary. I say this as a GT fan. CMR is a good recruiter. Any coach will have some kids that do not make it.

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I agree that choir boys may not cut it in big time college football. But I don’t think pot heads, petty criminals, and general dumb asses improve our chances much either. And I don’t care what other schools do or don’t do. It’s not asking too much of athletes getting a full ride to simply obey the law and not flunk out. We have become the new FSU … only without the success and ring to show for it.

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AJC is suffering because it takes risks on untalented sportswriters like JS.

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Malcombe should be the physical back this year, backed by Samuel. Throw in the freshman for a change of pace, big play back and you have a great backfield. IF the line comes through. If they don’t, it has nothing to do with recruiting bad eggs. They’ve had no such problems with the O line.

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I think all the Alabama, Auburn and LSU should form their own “Great”
conference, and name Paul Finebaum as their commissioner. They
could have Legends, Tammy, Trooper, McLouder as their commissioners.
They are a fri–ing discrace to the SEC. Hope Michigan beats the crap
out of the toilet paper, tree poisoning, and coach’s daughter, Kun Fu fighter.

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Boy, Jeff sure has a lot of red panties twisted up.

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Country boy….you know how it is my friend…A Bulldawg will survive!

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It’s too bad the AJC takes to many rick with mediocre (Schultz & Bradley) “journalists”!

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Well: Professors and AD’s don’t count.

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Predictor: Is that butterscotch, tapioca or chocolate pudding?

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Nice positive article on UGA’s media day Schultz you killjoy. Things were nicer when you were playing hide and seek….

All colleges recruit the players. Richt has made it clear to the new ones coming in they will not play and lose their scholarship. Everything is fine. First time head coach is still learning. Sure wish you were still learning Schultz….

By the way UGA is stricter on their athletes in EVERY way than most ALL colleges and so are the Athens police! You think Bama tested their athletes after spring break?! If other schools and police depts were as strict on players as UGA and Athens, UGA would likely be the measuring stick for having the least discipline issues. All variables in this equation are NOT close to equal and will NOT be until there is uniformity on process across the board….Let all other SEC schools drug test like UGA, keep tabs like UGA and discipline for the same things UGA does instead of overlook it and let other cities police force have a zero tolerance for football players like the APD and see who is under the radar big time while UGA takes a bad rap…..All things are not equal in at each university AD nor are the police depts….Auburn and Bama police? ROFL! It better be a felony! Marijuana? The only reason Crowell should have went to Bama is so he could have smoked away without worry if he got busted…..you think cops would have busted him in Auburn for having a gun under the seat since there was no incident? They might have took it and told him to go to his dorm….and the world would have never known…

you better not jaywalk in Athens or you will be held accountable and most likely in public media….!!! You grow up and put away childish things or you get sent home in Athens GA….

Rotate on all that….

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Columbus: The Illustrious State of Alabama, and Trooper have
authorized all of our officers to only issue
warning tickets for 1st time offenders, unless they are Freshmen or Seniors
at one of our greater than your universities.
Freshmen are given two warnings, Sophomores three warnings, and on and on.
We believe in forgiveness, depending on your stats.

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By the way UGA is stricter on their athletes in EVERY way than most ALL colleges and so are the Athens police!

UGA fans keep spouting this nonsense. Can you give any proof that the Athens police department acts any differently then any other police department? Are you really insinuating that the police department in Atlanta or Gainesville wouldn’t have done anything if they pulled over a football player who smelled like pot and had an illegal firearm in his possession?

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Richt did not bounce Crowell. The University kicked him out for two federal felonies. Most campuses have an immediate expulsion policy for handgun violations, for obvious reasons. Richt sucked up to Crowell with the “missing man” drama, then coddled him after multiple drug violations. Certainly Adams and McGarity have squeezed Richt, and if it appears Richt is getting tough, it is because of the ongoing embarrassment to the University that Richt has brought with his sloppy recruiting and lack of control of his players. Richt is either unable or unwilling to “nip it in the bud.”

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“We’re not recruiting bad kids,” Richt said…

Sorry about the loud noise, folks. My bullsh!t detector just exploded.

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Love how the trolls insist on posting about UGA all the time. We must be on their minds 24/7 and that’s good. You need to think about everything we do. You need to worry all the time. Dont eat, don’t sleep. Just wonder what the Doggies are doing now, lol…

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Shank
I wonder if even half of the bama fans, really are “Bama” fans???

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Bunch of loons….they are just rabid Dawgs…..watch yourself…

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Sadly Jeff you are spot on.Things are not as rosy in Athens as it appears.If the Dawgs don’t win the SEC Richt should be on the hot seat again.

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Jeff, I refuse to read all of the other drivel on this message board because it is a waste of time. Here is the bottom line: if UGA messes up their great opportunity this season Rambo, Ogletree and Smith are to blame. Self-centered, egotistical and babied since the crib. They make me sick despite their talent. They are LOSERS.

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“We’re not recruiting bad kids,” Richt said. Oh, really? I beg to differ! Other than the fact that these thugs who have gotten in trouble may be incredibly gifted atheletes, they are coddled, academically and ethically challenged young adults. Football as a system is broken and we all know it. The vast majority of college students do not commit sexual assault, DUI, felony theft, assault and battery, and drive around at 3:30 in the morning with a firearm with an obliterated serial number.

Young kids make mistakes- heck, we all do. But the incidents at UGA and other institutions of higher learning (yes, that’s what they are, not the NFL training grounds) indicate that college athletics has degraded to something none of us should be proud of. The problems begins long before college- we kiss these kids’ butts, tell them how great they are, make them acountable to no one, and let them run wild with no preprecussions whatsoever. Just talk to any teacher at Carver Columbus.

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what a bunch of loons – Hey, glad you have joined our group.
As for me, I am just retired, just got home from playing golf, get on here
to have a good time and join the new generation of social media bunch
of loons and see how many loons like you we can recruit to our site.
Welcome aboard.

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Jeff:

And for the bunch of loons group, thank you for not rejecting our posts.
We luv you and all your trolls, especially the high intellect group like the
Paul Finebaum disciples.

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Georgia Recruiting
has been good to Alabama State, LSU and Jacksonville State.

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good job by rent-a-dawg today.

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Congratulations to UCF for beating a 6-6 SEC team.

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Jeff the other side of the coin is what if Richt refused to recruit Crowell? Then the whole Bulldog nation would have been in an uproar because UGA not recruiting the best athletes. Richt was in a no win situation with Crowell and athletes like Crowell. The best Richt can hope for is to land these recruits and try his best to try and help these kids and try to keep them out of trouble. The bottom line is UGA is not playing on a level playing field versus other schools in the SEC. Darn if he does and darn if he doesn’t. No win situation with those kids!

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the “trolls” generate alot more hits than you mouth-breathing homers do..trolls = $$..homers = lots of redudant quotes..I love coach richt…i love the dawgs..i love uga…i love herschel…

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Reality
Let him speak the “whole” truth, not just the part that makes UGA look bad. He mentioned UGAs lost to LSU, but not LSUs new starting QB, (the Mettenrapist). Plenty of other truths convieniently left out, but you get my drift…

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What a bunch of losers, you are nothing without UGA. You would have no reason to live without something to whine like a little girl about. We’re here for you…

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Loons….I warned you…..several rabid Dawgs on here at the moment….keep agitating a Dawg and you are going to wind up bit….pinky finger bit off and possibly your ar mangled….dont say I didnt warn you

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… some good thoughtful posts and the column brings a reaction which is what the columnists want. I would love to have 11 Jarvis Jones/David Pollack types on D and 11 David Greene/Malcom Mitchells on offense BUT what do you do in the Mettenburger case? Here is a kid from a 2 parent family who lived and grew up in Athens; Mom works in the Athletic office and all signs should point to no problems; fighting for a spot along with Murray and BOOM gets in trouble in Valdosta on SB and we have to let him go. I would rather have 70 kids who want to play at UGA and maybe they do have to work a little harder and play Special Teams…. But I like the way we are going with the Mitchells; Gurleys; Theuses and recent recruits….

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Rainbow warrior, lmaoff
@9:44, that was probably the whinest most asinine post I have ever, ever read. How old are you, 14-15??? Stick a binky in it. BTW, a binky is a pacifier, lol…

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Cdpridg
Where do they keep coming from. Is this an indictment of the Ga. Education System???

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Crowell, Ealey, Caleb King: I don’t recall any of these guys having a criminal record in high school. So how was it “risky” for schools to recruit them? None of these guys were a Jason Respert situation.

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“Schultzie owns queendaddy.”

IS that the German professor at UGA?

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We still need a 2013 RB…TOO…

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Don’t blame the drug testing. It is the egos and culture this country is breeding. Everyone now a days has a major sense of entitlement and feels if they can run fast, throw far, and catch a ball that they are above it all and deserve to be treated like princes and get the benefit of the doubt. You can easily tell that by all of these college announcements and how these kids try making a spectacle of the school they choose. We know 95% of the Top 100 recruits don’t care about obtaining a degree, but that they want to sign that dotted line in the NFL. Once the college football culture got away from academics being #1 concern, that’s when the wheels started falling off. Much like the government an all of their entitlement programs. We h e built this monster and just have to make everyone personally responsible. These kids having academic issues qualifying are dumb as rocks. Not only are their qualifications lowered tremendously from the normal applicant, they get all of the perks once they do get in. When a kid has qualifying issues you better beware and back off. As shallow as this is, look at how a guy dresses. A lot can be said about how a man can clean up and how well spoken they are. Call it profiling, call it judging, call it whatever the heck you want, but it works. I don’t know too many successful people out there that had their pants to their ankles, ha issues speaking the English language which is your primary language, or had trouble qualifying academically. The world needs burger flippers and ditch diggers as well. These are the steps needed to be taken, not who can run the 40 the fastest. Though you may win, the other issues are what will nail you in the press.

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NCDawg
Good point…

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Ga. Banker
If we win 11-12 games this year, Jeff will call him Coach of the Year. Fair-weather friends…

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yes, uga will be better without crowell. Crowell is talented, but you could never rely on the guy. If he did play, you never knew when he would pull himself out, the over/under was 2 carries. The guy was a game time decision for 2-3 weeks, usually if your a game time decision one week the next week you’re playing. Then throw in the suspensions for off the fied issues. I’ll take a back with less talent that I can rely on, see Richard samuel who played with a separated shoulder, one of the most painful injuries you can have.

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Richard Samuel is a DGD!!!

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Im outa here Doggies…

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Yes..if they are not here….then we are not kickin their tail nearly enough on the field….Richt has truely done a great job no matter what the naysayers try and say.

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You don’t know what you are getting with any recruit!! Every school has their fair share of problems!!!

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Amazing how much time some of you put into these silly blogs.

Btw, you can only play with 11 at a time smart Alice!

Our line and RB’s will surprise the world this season donkey face.

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thesportspass.com upload the next generation sports hghlights

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I’m not even going to say his name b/c of so many posts but if you are trying to compare UGA’s off field problems w/ LSU’s then this not even a conversation.
While the bar fight & weed thing the 3 players were suspended for last year wasn’t a good thing, Miles has been there for 7 years & they’ve had very, very few off field issues. Heck he even kicked off his starting QB in the summer of 2008 for doing boneheaded things. No arrests, just immature non- leadership stuff. Without Perrilloux, LSU was forced to start freshmen QB’s which resulted in 2 sub par years in 08 & 09. So much for being lax & undisciplined. Do some research & add them up b/f typing.

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wandering Dog

July 19th, 2012
3:36 pm
I’ve lived in central Alabama, and smack dab in Gainesville, FL. I can tell you, factually, that players do
things at AllBarn, Allybammer and Gaturdville that would have our guys on the front page..there you don’t hear of it after the first day. Not always football, either. Very eye-opening to have lived there.
Meanwhile, everyone has access to Rivals, etc…and knows most everything about most every recruit their team signs on natty signing day. Dog fans were ECSTATIC when we signed Isiah and almost as giddy when Washaun signed. The. those warts pop up, they get kicked off and suddenly Richt signed
a player he should have known better than to sign. Folks, either get on the wagon or get off, but for
Dogs sake, stop the fair weather fan-ness!
Go Dogs, GATA

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Not sure when you lived in those cities, but as a guy who has worked on both UF, UA campuses in the athletic offices in a high profile position, I can tell you that in the days way back, but during the past 6 years at UF, and the past 4 years at Alabama there is no room for error by ANY athlete in any sport. It sounds like you are making excuses to make yourself feel better about your dawgs, or trying to rationalize the arrest/suspensions/drug test failures.

Lets get something out in the open, the coaches at UF and UA and I am pretty confident that at Auburn have zero clout in the police/sheriff offices in who they arrest. I can tell you for sure that at UF and Alabama the athletes schedules are so regimented they have very little time to stray from the program. Coach Meyer had a ton of issues with players he allowed to walk in the program to their own beat, but he had no power with FDLE/Campus Police/ Gainesville Police to avoid arrest.
I know Nick Saban and his staff demand the players/ coaches and support personnel provide self discipline and those who do not are shown the door or never see the field.

Keep thinking you know something, when as a guy who has been up close and personnel really knows that the problems at UGA start with the leadership and the attitudes of each team.

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Old coach….you are winded…but can u post a resume for us. In this case we do need to see some factual proof from you sir.

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Go look at the 2004-2006 Alabama staff then go to the 2007-2010 at UF it is pretty easy to figure out.

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How about this. replace Mcgarity. It seems to me that we didn;t have this drug problem when Damon evans was the AD. arrests happened but to at this rate. know athen -clarke county police have road blocks on campus. something seems fishy in Athens. Mcgarity took away the louisville home and home. and the oregon home and home. some people tell me he trying to get out of the clemson home and home. Mcgrarity has not done a good job to me. Damon evans was working on a new basketball arena not thats gone away. I don’t trust him, he work at florida for sixteen years.

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PBT Dawg..you dont trust him??? He is a graduate of UGA..lol

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Jeff,
How many columns did you write about Crowell??? How richt needed him to have a successful recruiting class. How he will save richt’s job. You put Crowell on a pedestal and said how much uga needs him, then you write this column???? Really jeff, really?

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At least we have Keith Marshall…every bit as good as Crowell. Please everyone remind yourself of this by looking up his high school highlights. He is truly phenomenal

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GO DAWGS!!!! This is the Yr. we all want.Mark my word.

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7576: Please..dont be so ignorant…RICHT is on the HOTSEAT….Staff member firing is done!!! Its up to Coach to win an SEC Title!

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he is probably on a Dawg site the same reason you are yeller jacket. Why would a couple yeller jackets be here is a good question

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he is probably on a Dawg site the same reason you are yeller jacket. Why would a couple yeller jackets be here is a good question

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Everything has to do with the punishment policy. Rambo out four games for eating a weed brownie? That’s pretty tough. I had a brownie last week. Nobody is punishing me. Goooo dawgs!!!!!

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He deserved it. Don’t lie about eating pot brownies and ya can play for a great team! Rambo f-ed up not Coach Richt.

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Not surprised you listened to Nicky you DAWG HATER!Continue w your ridiculous stats though you still wont acknowledge that the Dawgs went to SEC game…Tide exit left….

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After 787 posts and 93000 stats you still wont note the DWGS in the SEC Champ game…lmao

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Why are the kids that Always get in trouble african american? I’m just making an observation. I know there was the Mettenberger incident, but every other time it has been an african american guy. Is it cultural? Is it profiling? Why is it always this way? Just wondering.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204443404577052073672561402.html

After reading how Joe Paterno handled things you have to ask do we recruit more bad players or do we choose not to hide things like other programs. We sure do get a lot of bad press by being open and honest. How many other programs out there are run like Penn State and Paterno?

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How can you expect the players to be accountable when Richt isnt? Instead of trying to improve the program’s deficiencies, he makes excuses.

Expect more of the second rate same as long as Dumbo Richt is at the helm.

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Ha!

And I thought Isaiah, ” The newly anointed one for some school in Alabama” was the second coming of Herschel.

Hey Schultz, how about a retrospective with all the “Dream Team” posts from you, Chippy and all the dogs who (once again) prematurely declared themselves national champs?

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“When is the last time you wrote an article about the success stories that Richt has had with kids that come from a disadvantaged background”
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The last time he beat a team who actually made the Top 10.

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Last win over a team finishing AP Poll Top 10 :

37-15 Win Allbarn 2006 # 9*
(1) 30-41 Loss Alabama 2008 # 6*
(2) 10-49 Loss Crocodiles 2008 # 1*
(3) 17-41 Loss Crocodiles 2009 # 3*
(4) 31-49 Loss Auburn 2010 # 1*
(5) 21-35 Loss Boise State 2011 # 8*
(6) 42-45 Loss Sakerlina 2011 # 9*
(7) 10-42 Loss LSU 2011 # 2*
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It all really makes sense once you realize that Richt is only in it for the money. He’s taking millions of dollars to the bank every year while UGA’s reputation goes down the toilet. How many more scandals is it going to take before UGA runs this clown out of town?

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It is all Richt knows.. It is Thuga high school everyday. Count the hashbrowns before you lock up.

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Let it be! if we don’t have we don;t have..so what?you can’t control what is gonna happen.

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chill out uga fans. of course this happens throughout the SEC but this is the MAJOR paper in UGA’s home state. it only makes sense it would focus on them geez

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Buckeye, is Gee as afraid of Urban as he was of Tressel????? That’s a message that brought us the scandal at PSU.

Don’t poke fun at UGA when your OSU has its issues….

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1. (For you GT trolls) Half of UGA’s team could have chicken pox and the other half could beat Tech handily.

2. Georgia’s defensive backups are almost as good as the starters who are in trouble.

3. If Georgia finishes 11-2 and just misses out on the Championship game, it won’t be because of the suspensions, it will be because of their quarterback’s play.

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@RN
July 20th, 2012
7:15 am

“Ok, here we go again with nobody addressing the big elephant in the locker room. These kids are raised in a culture of anti authority, arrogance, getting an education is “being too whtie”. This culture is pervasive in the black community and is doing so much harm to these kids yet nobody is doing anything about it or is too afraid to do so.”

I understand your point, but guess what? You are wrong. There are other, much more dominant factors that goes beyond what you are talking about, but this is a sports blog, not a sociology and history class. Question: What IF every black kid and every hispanic kid starting acting like whitie? Would there be enough jobs, educational opportunities, and healthcare resources for everybody? NO. “Whitie” does not have enough of those resources for themselves, so why would “whitie” openly share them with everybody else (tea party?) So STFU, using the term “whitie” in and of itself was ignorant enough on your part. Why can’t these kids act, well, more Black or more Hispanic? lmao at your ignorance. Get back to the football.

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Thank goodness my Gators don’t have these type of problems!

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Buh bye to Richt the Sleazemeister.

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This football program under Richt is mere Fools Gold. It was proven in the SECCG when LSU put a colossal beatdown on the dawgs in the 2nd half. Wow 10 wins against who last year? Wake up sheeple!

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Ga football is getting very tiring.

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Running back Kenyan Drake was a Georgia native. But that didn’t stop him from signing with Alabama this past February. In The Atlanta Journal-Constitution today, Drake tells Michael Carvell that had Mark Richt not been on the hot seat during his recruitment, the star would have had a harder choice to make with regards to Tide versus Bulldogs.
But more interesting are his comments regarding the personalities of the two coaches leading the programs – Richt and Nick Saban. Asked which non-Bama coach was the nicest, Drake said:
“Probably Coach Mark Richt. He was a very genuine guy. I’m not saying anybody else wasn’t genuine. With Coach Richt, he was really down to earth and he really showed that he really cares not only about you being a potential student-athlete, but also as a person. He comes across in a caring manner which makes you feel really right at home. He’s a pretty good father figure.”
But when asked which coach was not the nicest, Drake tabbed the man he actually signed with. Sort of:
“Well, I wouldn’t say not the nicest, but I would have to say Coach Saban. But I’m not saying he was not the nicest. He’s really straight-forward. You know what I mean? I’m not saying he’s mean but I’m not saying he’s ‘buddy buddy’ with you, either. He’s very businesslike. I’m not saying Coach Richt isn’t businesslike but they have two different personalities. Coach Richt is really caring. I’m not going to say Coach Saban isn’t. He’s just real straight-forward, to the point and if it’s not like this, then there’s no other way. With Coach Mark Richt, I feel like he’s more lenient.”
These, of course, are the opinions of one teenager who tried to handle the questions with as much grace and class as possible. Clearly, he didn’t want to insult either man.
That said, it seems that Richt’s “nice guy” personna and Saban’s “all business” reputation are deserved… at least in the view of Drake.

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Running back Kenyan Drake was a Georgia native. But that didn’t stop him from signing with Alabama this past February. In The Atlanta Journal-Constitution today, Drake tells Michael Carvell that had Mark Richt not been on the hot seat during his recruitment, the star would have had a harder choice to make with regards to Tide versus Bulldogs.

But more interesting are his comments regarding the personalities of the two coaches leading the programs – Richt and Nick Saban. Asked which non-Bama coach was the nicest, Drake said:

“Probably Coach Mark Richt. He was a very genuine guy. I’m not saying anybody else wasn’t genuine. With Coach Richt, he was really down to earth and he really showed that he really cares not only about you being a potential student-athlete, but also as a person. He comes across in a caring manner which makes you feel really right at home. He’s a pretty good father figure.”

But when asked which coach was not the nicest, Drake tabbed the man he actually signed with. Sort of:

“Well, I wouldn’t say not the nicest, but I would have to say Coach Saban. But I’m not saying he was not the nicest. He’s really straight-forward. You know what I mean? I’m not saying he’s mean but I’m not saying he’s ‘buddy buddy’ with you, either. He’s very businesslike. I’m not saying Coach Richt isn’t businesslike but they have two different personalities. Coach Richt is really caring. I’m not going to say Coach Saban isn’t. He’s just real straight-forward, to the point and if it’s not like this, then there’s no other way. With Coach Mark Richt, I feel like he’s more lenient.”

These, of course, are the opinions of one teenager who tried to handle the questions with as much grace and class as possible. Clearly, he didn’t want to insult either man.

That said, it seems that Richt’s “nice guy” personna and Saban’s “all business” reputation are deserved… at least in the view of Drake.

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Trouble in Paradise ladies?

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The only problem I have with the story is that you call Richt’s recruiting “risky” when all of these students we’re discussing had offers from dozens of other schools. Were all of those other schools being “risky” too?

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I am very sure that Alabama, Auburn, UF, etc,,etc,. would not have signed Crowell because the already knew what a trouble maker he was. Come on Schultz, move into the real world.

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Isaiah Crowell? What was Mark Richt thinking? All you need to do is look at him and you’ll know he’s nothing but human trash. He has a life in prison in front of him, not a life in the NFL.

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[...] inspiration for another Jeff Schultz column in which he appoints himself Mark Richt’s scold, yesterday’s piece took a slightly different tack from where Schultz usually goes when the criminal element rears its [...]

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Kolton Houston 4-Star # 6 OG sat out 2011 unspecified NCAA violation

Safety Bacarri Rambo facing a four-game drug Suspension when announce

Cornerback Branden Smith at least one game drug Suspension when announce

Inside linebacker Alec Ogletree least one game drug Suspension when announce

Cornerback Sanders Commings Suspended for two games hit girl

Nick Marshall kicked out / transferred-out reported involvement theft

Chris Sanders kicked out / transferred-out reported involvement theft

Sanford Seay kicked out / transferred-out reported involvement theft

Cootie Quintavious Harrow Soph S flunked-out / transfer Dream Team # 6

Isaiah Crowell # 1 RB nation Soph kicked-out / transfer Dream Team # 7

Montez Robinson SR # 10 DE 4-Star, beat up girl, transfer

John Atkins F # 23 DT nationally, failed to qualify transfer

Leonard Floyd F 4-Star # 18 DE nationally, failed to qualify transfer

Jordan Lawrence Love JR 12/31/90 arrest didn’t know name or birthday transfer

Zach Mettenberger JR # 14 QB 4-star, guilty sexual battery transfer

Mark Richt said 19 July 2012 : “There’s been more attrition the last couple of years than there has been since we’ve been at Georgia.” Is that supposed to make us feel better about it, while as a direct result we’ve lost 9 games and counting in a row to every single top team we’re playing, and now this 2012 season face only 1 team who made any top 25 poll with 11 opponents averaging 4.8 wins ? Who we going to beat 2012 ? A 4-win Alabama team ? An Alabama team who lost the same year to Louisiana Lafayette ? An Alabama team that didn’t even make the Coaches’ Poll Top 25 ? This is what we brag about; oh, and getting to The SEC Championship Game to have our Hats handed to us 10-42. We settle for mediocrity, and brag about it.

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When are we going to bea the top teams ?
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Who is next kicked-off / transfer-out ?
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“misses out on the Championship game, it won’t be because of the suspensions, it will be because of their quarterback’s play”
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You got something there, Jimmy.

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UGA has become over the last 20 years a school more similar to U of NC than Alabama. The UGA adm is totally behind the school’s elevated academic standards. Yes, we ahve taken the IC’s of the world but we are getting away from that. Schools like SC and UT and LSU and Clemson and AU and Alabama can come in to uGA and get kids that frankly, CANNOT do the academics that are rwequired by UGA.

GT fans will giggle but this statement about UGA is true. This fact is the core reason that UGA will usually NOT compete for much post season excitement, beyond a Cap One Bowl or Outback Bowl, or a Chic Fil A Bowl, or much less.

UGA is considered as having a great seaso, if we defeat UT and AU and SC and Florida and then play in a nice mid level bowl game. Last year gave us that and we still had 4 freaking losses …………… folks, that is it for us.

UGA class of 71 & 73

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Not sure what Schultzie is saying with this column? Georgia’s policy’s are too strict? Richt intentially recruits bad kids? Other schools do not recruit these same players?

This column will get a big response?

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@Thomas/clown—-Why not spend some of your time and investigate bamma

or take a drive down to the “barn” and conduct a interview in “BARS” with allburn gain-sttas

thugg players, and get the real story on all the crimes that get covered up in allburn

All schools recruit from same thugg —HOODS–and all know the –RISK–when recruit GREG REID

types———–SABAN was real excited about the chance of landing CROWBABY

and futhermore if I were a gambling man, Its 100% that next year he will be in AT THE —BARN—

BUT THOMAS THE CLOWN LOVES TO ACT AS IF COACH RICHT IS THE ONLY COACH WITH

——————————TROUBLED KIDS—————-PLEASE

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tHOMASthe CLOWN is mad because UGA has a tough DRUG policy

probly because your 400 pounds of chewed bubble gum and you sit around SMOKE-IN –DOPE–

EATING HOTDOGS AND DRIKING 4 LITERS OF COKE each day.

The –NEW WORLD ORDER AT UGA———–NO MORE THUGGS

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Article is tough but fair……

As CMR said, (1) Other schools are recruiting the same guys.”, and (2) “To say that issues aren’t happening around the country isn’t really realistic.”

There is probably some validity to the argument that some other schools operate under “old school” unwritten policies where athletes are protected, transgressions are overlooked or even worse, covered up. One glaring example is the night club incident at UT during Da’Rick Roger’s freshman year. 7-8 players involved in a bar room brawl where a police officer was left unconscious in the street. Da’Rick himself pushed a police officer. No charges were filed against any players? Not one player was tested for consumption of alcohol, etc., yet all were under the age of 21.

To JS’s point in the blog above, we can’t worry about what other schools are doing (or not doing) we have to keep our own house in order………

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it doesn’t matter what other schools do or don’t do…either change your rules to match the others, or, shut the he11 up.

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Side note: It is also disheartening to see players, the latest being Mettenberger, being dismissed from one SEC school, and then signing with another. Would it be unrealistic for the SEC to have a policy (with specific guidelines) where, any player that signs with an SEC school after being previously dismissed from another SEC school, must forfeit (sit) one year of eligibility? This would be in addition to the redshirt/JC/FCS year.

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@JUST ME—————–START A NEWS PAPER—-MORE FACTS IN YOU SCRIBE THAN

THE AJC HAS PRODUCED IN 10 YEARS———THANKS

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[...] Schultz does it again.  This little gem from his most recent column is just [...]

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Schultz, Classic ‘Insert phrases here to fit my agenda’ journalism.
You talk like the ‘other’ 19 guys aren’t really football players at all. Typical media BS. Thing is, you’re worse at your job then UGA’s football program. Say, has Jeff Schultz ever been ranked in the top 10 in journalism? Go ahead.. Enlighten me.

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Well said Jeff.

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UGA has no more thug kids than Auburn or LSU. They have kids getting in trouble all the time too. Athens(aka Cowtown)is closer to home so we see it more. When u recruit these type kids, which u have to to win big games, u have to take the good with the bad. Good article Jeff. this same article could apply to those other two schools recently, but jeff writes for the AJC. And the AJC covers UGAG…..

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You are wrong. When did LSU,Auburn,Fla.,or Bama lose their best running back and 4 defensive starters ? Nothing shows up when I Google it. Only UGA.

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Don’t worry pup fans, your accent out of mediocrity is bound to happen sometime.
Excuses U.
If you boys could hit, tackle, run, pass, block & coach as good as you break laws, cheat, pay players, recruit punks(when you recruit) then you’d have something to be proud of.

Character builds Championships.
Hard Work build Championships.
Discipline builds championships.
Team Work builds Championships.

……..maybe one day, pups!!!!

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You are what you are and UGA football shows just that. Spin it as you can/will but you have problems within the football program. There is no doubt the players on the UGA football team DON’T Fear Mark Richt at all. At some point the folks in the AD complex will do what the must but not until they must. I see 9-3 this year for folks aren’t giving Florida,UT,MIzzou,and USCe the credit they deserve. UGA will be a good football team as well but the other East teams are coming back and much faster than many understand.

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Yes, Coach Richt, you often are recruiting bad kids.

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Wilson
9-3 sounds about right……….for bama…

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Ya’ll keep risking and we will keep winning Trophy’s.

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You should know…

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I read this crap yesterday. Schultz is an F—-ing moron. We’re recruiting the same kids that everyone else in the country is. Crowell was the #1 RB in America and was from GA. If he would have gone to Alabama and won the Heisman, Shultz would have written an article bashing Richt for letting the top players in the state get away. Furthermore he takes a shot at the “dream Team” for losing 7 of its members to attrition. I think the Dream Team has worked out pretty well: Corey Moore, Malcolm Mitchell, John Jenkins, Ray Drew, Chris Conley(Fla. Game), Jay Rome, Amarlo Herrera, Ramik Wilson etc. All contributors and current/future starters. I’d say that was a pretty good haul. 1 of the kids that was dismissed for theft was Nick Marshall. He broke every QB record in GA his senior year. Were we not supposed to go after an athlete like that? What red flags was Richt supposed to see there? We recruited him as a DB but it was well known that Paul Johnson was recruiting him hard at QB. Nick Marshall said that Johnson told him if he came to Tech he would make him a Heisman winning QB. If he’d gone to Tech and gotten himself kicked off their team, do you think Shultz would have written a few paragraphs of swill condemning Johnson for his recruiting methods? I think not. Just look at this guy’s picture in the paper. He looks like the biggest Dbag on earth. Probably got his ass kicked regularly growing up. What else could have turned this moron into the Swill Merchant that he is today.

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“FIRST” on the 9th page! What is my prize?

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I think people have Miss understood what the dream team stood for and who actually made up the dream team. The real dream team was
Ray Drew
Isaiah Crowell
Malcolm Mitchell
Damien Swan
Jay Rome
Corey Moore
Jonathon Jenkins
Sterling Bailey
Christian Lemay

These were 7 out of the top 10 players in the state of Georgia in 2011. Lemay was top coming out North Carolina, Jenkins was a top JC player. Sanford Seay was a two star wide reciever. Chris sanders was a 3 star safety. And Nick Marshall was a lower teir 4 star. None these players started, and was only expected to be role players at Georgia. When you look at a recruiting class. analyze the top 10-14 guys in the class. If you have a class of 26 players, not all of those players are going to be stars, a lot of them want even be sufficents players in there career. some will eventually tranfer do to playing time. If you look at the production of the top guys in this class. Isaiah was really the only risk, but he ended up being Freshman of the year. Mitchell could have been Freshman of the year also. Jay Rome will start at TE, Ray Drew has turned into a beast, and Jonathon Jenkins have turned around our DL. Damien Swann was starting until he got hurt. Top talking about Non-impact players. Georgia won the East because of the Dream-Team and Georgia is Favored in the east again because of the Dream Team. Where’s the risk.

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Step one..go to the beach.
Step two…pound sand.

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pbt
UGAs Dream Team was a great success, no matter how you cut it. The very first year, they helped win the SECe!!! Not a bad start, can’t wait for the encore…

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maybe UGa will be good this year. I here the team doesn’t have COOTIE’s anymore.

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I know MANY kids smoke pot, but HOW does a coach offering a recruit a scholarship not know before hand if the kid is a pot head?

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Note to Thomas Brown. Get a hobby or maybe a job. You’ve got way too much time on your hands.

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[...] Richt, Georgia have been hurt by too many recruiting risks [...]

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@ 5150 UOAD:

Where you been Bro??? I missed some of the disruption you so ably provided.

You are exactly right. There are some MAD people on here. Mad as hell is putting it mildly but not at folks like you, Smart, Blackout, Bear, Crimson Crush and other “agitators”. Y’all are basically rabble rousers much like me but it is mostly in fun.

I am almost sickened by those who have pretended to be Dawg Fans over the years but now are so stupid that they, sheeplike, fall in line like a bunch of protesters not even knowing what they are protesting.

Have fun son and don’t be a stranger on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS: How would you like to trade 4 cokes; 4 hotdogs an 4 GT tickets for a couple of dozens of DFINO(Dawg Fans In Name Only)???????????????????

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@cdpridg

It is his job to babysit. He is responsible for his players actions. The only reason he still has his job today is because the UGA fanbase is willing to look the other way so long as he is a good person and gets them to a mid-tier bowl game. Richt Cup.

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[...] 18. Too many recruiting risks for the Bulldogs? [...]

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Looks like it will work out for the ole ball coach after all. By the time UGA limps into Columbia with less than 60 healthy players, he’ll wear them out for the third straight year. The 2010 dream team class may go through their entire time at UGA having never beaten USC. Or LSU. Or Bama. Or a top 10 team period.

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Ian, the parents responsibility ends when Richt signs them He is responsible for their actions while they are enrolled in Athens. No way I would send a kid to play at UGA for the Great Enabler.

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Here’s an idea
Coach Richt, start an” unofficial “random drug screen. Let CMR stand in the bathroom with them so they can’t cheat. Make sure they have no advance warning! If they pull a positive on this “unofficial” DT,, then do this:…#1 Call a team meeting to humble the offender, hand him off to Coach Armstrong for “extra” running.(voluntary of course!) #2 This person will only be on in-house probation. They are also “red-flagged” and randomly tested no less than once a month by CMR himself with no warning. Another “unofficial” positive will result in a large suspension (4-6 games, voluntary of course!) OR being kicked off the team…#3 Any “official” positive, is automatic suspension at NCAA rules. Any positive and you’re red-flagged and tested regularly. A second positive will result in 4-6 game suspension or being kicked off the team.
Put some “teeth” in the rules, and see if the kids want to play football or smoke dope… Coach Richt must oversee the testing to show he means business…

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Mark Richt just like any other head coach on any level is ultimately responsible for the conduct of his players. But on the same note the Head coach is also responsible for the assistant coaches he hired. There has to be a total buy in from HC to all staff members in the development of the players on and off the field.

Roll Tide

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UGA should ask for and receive CMR and McGarrity’s resignations so the healing can begin. The split in the family needs to be fixed, and the only way to repair the damage is with new leadership. Manny Diaz in 2013.

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What’s up Bear!
Brain, rhymes with Batman’s villan “Bane” and Rommeys evil empire “Bain”, I love it. Dang, my name doesn’t rhyme with very much, that’s no fair. Bane, I mean Brain, you ever notice the guy that keeps saying we’re the same person, keeps changing his name? This would be “the pot, calling the kettle black…”

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Blog Psycho
My being a nice guy is a result of being a “preacher’s kid”. It helped me as a bouncer in Johnson City Tn. You don’t have to be an A-ho to communicate, but sometimes as a last resort, you have to. Maybe you should try not being an A-ho all your life. It’s not too late for you…

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That’s right Dirty Dawg; blame Gainsville, Auburn and Tuscaloosa for UGA’s out of control athletes. You should take that “dawg” off of your name.

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Dirty Dawg
You’re wasting your time. Come December, Jeffey and a load of fair-weather fans will be slapping each other on the butt saying how they were joking and they knew all along UGA was destined for a huge year, lol…

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“The 2010 dream team class may go through their entire time at UGA having never beaten USC. Or LSU. Or Bama. Or a top 10 team period.”
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The Dream Team may go through their entire time at UGA having not beat a team who made the Top 10 period ?

It’s been 7 seasons now since we beat a team making the Top 10 period.

(1)2006 – beat # 9 Auburn (lost to 2-win Vandie who beat 0-12 Duke 1-11 Temple)
(2)2007 – beat no team making Top 10 (LSU beat 2)
(3)2008 – beat no team making Top 10
(4)2009 – beat no team making Top 10
(5)2010 – beat no team making Top 10
(6)2011 – beat no team making Top 10
(7)2012 – only play 1 team who made any top 25, 11 averaging 4.8 wins

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Jeffey keeps filtering my post. Too bad…

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maybe you should tone down your brainiac persona.

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Thomas Brown must have his clipboard full. He just goes to the clipboard, makes a selection then posts it again and again and again.

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Glad Richt’s patience has run out on players than KEEP scrwing up. Enough of that BS. He is not a baby sitter anymore in my perception.

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What would I do to fix it ?

(1) I would quit with the excuses and call it like it is

(2) I would say it is unacceptable

(3) I would challenge the recruits to personal accountability

(4) We’re going to win over top teams

(5) We’re going to announce all the suspensions day they happen

(6) We’re going to sign 85 scholarship recruits, not 16 short like 2012 class

(7) I’d tell the kids that from last year and now this year, it’s obvious we’re not putting up no wins over the quality teams and we’re not putting up with all these players not in to being here to play football – that if you don’t go to class, do drugs, beat up girls, we’ll find someone who does want to play football and beat the top teams without that.

(8) And, then I’d get people excited about doing that. Right now, all we have is it continues. Our coach spent the entire day yesterday saying how great we made it to The SEC Championship Game (which we Lost 10-42.) As for suspensions, he said all day how we PUNISH; and, not once did he discuss the lack of discipline for this very talented football team unable to all pull in the same direction

with all the distractions.

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Now, that I’ve answered that : What would you do ?_________________________________________
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(A) Tell them how great they are beating no one ?
(B) Tell them, it’s ok, every school has same issues ?
(C) Brag about beating 4-win Bama team & Bama team losing to Louisiana Monroe ?
(D) Call everyone saying you’re a DISNEYdawgs.com a troll ?
(E) Followed by a season 2012 of 1 team making any top 25 & 11 averaging 4.8 wins ?
(F) Beat no team 7th season consecutively who makes the Top 10 ?
(G) Announce all the bad apples gone now last year this time 2011 ?
(H) Kind of side-step that now with 28 transfers-out kicked-off 2012 team ?
(I) Yell from rooftop how you’re a better fan than everyone else because you settle for mediocrity, spending your days, daily, telling everyone how great we are beating NO ONE and getting your excuses ready for the next set of

GOOD RIDDANCE recruits you bragged about getting in here.

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Schultz it is always nice to see a media blogger for a state newspaper include rumor and speculation as a major part of most of your stories. The AJC should be grateful that clam heads prevail at UGA. With all the amount of anti-UGA bias, I feel that the next people kicked off campus should be the ilk of those like yourself

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Thomas
I said WHAT WILL YOU SAY WHEN UGA HAS A BIG YEAR? Nobody asked you what you would do to fix it.
What will you say when The Dawgs have a big year this year???

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Really? -

I am pretty sure the article was about UGA, let’s see:

“Richt, Georgia have been hurt by too many recruiting risks”

Yep, it is about UGA.

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The situation at Georgia has been an embarrassment/out of control for some time now. It wasn’t that long ago when we were reading about their athletic director getting fired because of his bad behavior. Until College Boards of Trustees and Presidents make it a point of emphasis to athletic directors and head coaches that academics and character are a priority, then coaches will continue to act like it is somebody else’s concern.

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For those SLAMMING Jeff Schultz…..Some of you are lucky to be in the south. The NY papers, the Philly papers, the Chicago papers and many others are a lot harder on their local teams than Schultz or Bradley ever are on our teams.
If you mostly want nice and sweet stuff on UGa stick to Bill King and Chip Towers.

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SSIGATOR

I meant as a football program.

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So we will win with 69 according to the “experts”. You are welcome to jump off the Doggie-train at the next station. All Aboard…

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They have a LOT of talent, but every time I hear “projected to win the SEC east”, all I can think of is what a JOKE of a schedule they have this year, both in conference and out of conference. To be honest, winning the east would be no major accomplishment. If they won the CONFERENCE, then I would be impressed.

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You keep saying the same stupid sentences every post.

I am a better fan than you.

I am a better fan than you.

Mark Richt is a great coach.

Mark Richt isn’t responsible for the guys he signed to scholarships here.

It goes on everywhere.

Mark Richt is tough in his punishment now, you repeat, yet you never are able to admit that he is tough on Discipline. If he were, the players would not put him in this situation of having beat no one and having lost to every quality team, and having only 68 left of the 107 he signed to scholarships to play here.

I am supposed to what ?

Have something DIFFERENT to say to your B.S. repeated by you ?

What ? I was wrong before ? Now, I should say something different ?

Sorry guys.

I was right as rain before and remain steadfast on the same

REPLIES

to your repeated BS of how great we are beating no one and down to 68 signed scholarships to play 2012, our best chance.

Who is making it # 67 ?

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ARdawg

July 20th, 2012
12:31 pm

Is that you, ARdawg

the guy who brags he does not go to the games

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what a douche! sad that some writers need to bring-up a controversial story from 2 weeks ago to spark readership. current news story—–uga picked to win the east.

you sir, are no furman bisher.

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You will never beat a better coached harder practiced LSU or Alabama team with only 69 players. I have to respect Thomas Brown for his intellectual honesty and sometimes even at 10-2 you must toss a brick if you ever wish to hold the crystal…

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Jeff,

I respectfully but completely disagree with your premise that Georgia has a discipline problem that stems from recruiting “at risk” kids who happen to be stellar athletes. It’s even more absurd that this problem could be mitigated if Richt had a better “filter”. The top programs in the Southeast all comptete for the same recruits, let’s not pretend otherwise. If you want to use Crowell as an example, Alabama would have gladly signed the kid as would have MANY schools inside and outside the Southeast so if Richt “should have known IC was a bad apple” at least 20 or however many schools that offered Crowell made the same exact offense. Ditto for Nick Marshall. These are 18-22 year old kids, when you have a roster full of them some of them are going to make stupid decisions, that’s just probability. The only thing a coach can control are 1) actually enforcing discipline and 2)signing more guys. Richt does a good job with 1, questionable job with 2. However, neither approach can do anything in regards to making sure the guys you end up signing don’t get into trouble. I think it’s completely absurd to expect a head coach to predict whether every potential player will or won’t have off field problems. If you have a rebuttal to my argument I would be glad to hear it, I would also be interested to know how you would expect a coach to evaluate whether a recruit is or isn’t a “good kid”.

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There is a certain risk that a program assumes when recruiting. There is no certainty when a kid is signed, and I would like to point out that your article, while factual, does not provide any insight. Keep in mind that due to the enormous amounts of money involved, high risk recruits are brought into the best programs in the country in order for that team to compete at the highest level. It is the landscape of college football. Everyone program cheats in some manner. So Richt is guilty of what, taking a chance on a kid by providing him an opportunity to succeed in life. Thank you for pointing out the clearly obvious. I am now enlightened.

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UGA & Richt will be about the same as they usually are when they have a decent team. They’ll drop 1 or 2 important games and be a better than average SEC team. Of course, UGA long ago gave up on actually chasing national championships. What SEC program other than Vandy would keep a coach for over a decade in place that hasn’t even sniffed a National Championship? Of course, it’s Georgia! At least the other programs including Vandy are chasing one, UGA keeps Richt and his aw shucks people around which everybody else in the SEC is happy about. Why? As long as Mark Richt is at UGA you won’t have to worry about them putting a NC in their trophy case.

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Thomas ,
you refuse to read my question correctly, so you haven’t answered anything. It was a simple question, therefore I will assume you will not answer me directly. I wrote it twice. One simple sentence with a question mark behind it.
What will YOU Say when we have a big year this year???

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What happened is so obvious yet nobody says anything about it. Until ‘05-’06, Richt brought in guys who had great character and fundamentals though were not that talented. Yes there was the Ordell Thurman saga but every program has an idiot each year. Well that gave them results but the only year they were in the national title picture was in ‘02 but weren’t close. So Richt thought he had to sacrifice character and fundamentals to get the talent and athleticism needed to get that national title. Think the results speak for themselves.

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Dribble, Georgia has the guts to cut guys loose. Most teams dont. Georgia has the guts to suspend their best player (AJ Green) even without a proven indictment). Most wont do that and didnt(aka Ohio State/Auburn/Florida)
All you can do is cut them off the team which Richt is doing. Nothing else to be said.
HOld on the Richt as long as you can. Surround him with coaching talent and he will end up on top again.

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TB
Coach Richt just cut you from the team, lol. You didn’t turn your back on UGA. You were never a fan…

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Jeff – Spot on here. It will be absolutely amazing if this team performs up to the hype. Just too much going on. The offense is scary with the o-line problems and now no proven running back. Then you consider the best offensive player will be playing primarily on defense, at least early on. Then you go on the road to Missouri to play against a run and shoot offense without 3 to 5 starters on defense. Just seems scary to me.

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“NO one disciplines more than Richt in the SEC.”
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You are using the WRONG WORD.

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“NO one PUNISHES more than Richt in the SEC.”
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Mark Richt has NO DISCIPLINE. His idea of discipline is punishment. So is your concept that punishment and discipline are the same word.

They are not the same. Until we understand the difference, we will never achieve

DISCIPLINE on or off the field.

Now, what is it that we’re supposed to be so happy about the current state of affairs ?

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Keep on keepin on, Jeff. You know when you wrestle a pig only 2 things happen..
1. You get muddy
2. The pig likes it.

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start working on that apology now…

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Jeff, I will do as you say out of respect for you, but everyone on here knows why he was cut from the team…

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That better???

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Could the Dawg 2011 dream team beat the 92 dream team?

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I would have banned your behind. Would have been alot quieter on here.

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That’s because you’re a coward and a troll. You would love to be able to censor others right to free speech. Now that doesn’t make you a very good American, now does it. I’m an honorably discharged Vet that fought for this country for that right. I’m sure that’s something you know nothing about. I don’t believe in censonship and the fact that you do, speaks volumes about your lack of character. I earned it. I doubt you even know what it is. That’s why you would like to see me silenced, lol. What a pathetic joke you are…

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Some of you make comments about character of players you don’t even know. Some of them are just better at hiding their faults because money is the motive. Find some of their real online social media handles and it will let you know. College athletics especially football is like the minor leagues in baseball. UGA is a starting point for what they really want to do…play nfl football.

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Get ever the schedule thing. If your team wins its schedule then that is a mute point. Especilly for those cry baby biddie fans, Just shut-up and win your games. The OBC must be worried!!!!

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Should we make the kids go to a college to play Pro Football? They don’t do it in baseball or basketball. It’s just a venue, that’s all it is. Some of the kids are not college material, yet to go pro, you have to attend college. (for football only) Is this fair to a good athlete who isn’t a very good student???

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You are either very naive or an idiot

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Milton County
Go read your Constitution. It may help you with the whole censorship thing that you baby-boy just don’t get. The fact that I’m still on this blog must eat you up inside. Hope you learned something today. Now let’s talk about football, loser, lol…

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JEFF, at what point can your honestly say the you firmly believe Crowell was even SEC caliber. He had yet to prove he could be an accomplished tailback in this league. He had to come out of the game all the time because it was too nimble for the SEC. He will thrive at the level he’s playing at now, but realistically anyone being truthfull knows he was way over-rated.

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Those of us who know Remerton cops also know has exaggerated the Metz story likely was. His lying about it probably wasn’t exaggerated

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Reality Dawg
They didn’t get it done last year, did they? I don’t think Melvin is going to score 14 this year, do you? We hung 42 on you last year. I’m not buying into the UGA has no chance theme. Why are you Dawg???

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Reality dawg
If you couldn’t beat Auburn last year or Arkansas, what makes you think this is your year???

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