Richt, Georgia have been hurt by too many recruiting risks
Mark Richt has seen several players arrested and suspended this offseason, including former tailback Isaiah Crowell. (AP photo)
HOOVER, Ala. – Mark Richt ignored the red flags and was among the nation’s coaches who lined up around the block for Isaiah Crowell.
He already has seen seven members from his vaunted 2011 recruiting class either kicked out, flunked out or never academically qualified to begin with (“Dream Team”? Anybody?).
Arrests and suspensions likely will lead to four defensive starters missing games next season.
There is a problem again at Georgia — and it matters little that it’s a different one from the past.
Richt, to his credit, no longer responds to players’ criminal or just plain stupid actions by merely making them run stadium steps or suspending their dessert privileges. He has come a long way from enabling Odell Thurman. He suspends players. He kicks them out. He tries to make them understand that getting four or five stars stamped on your forehead by a recruiting site and the ego trip of a signing-day news conference shouldn’t be accompanied by a sense of entitlement (even if it too often does).
The problem now is that too many of the players Georgia is recruiting should be red-lined. The line of risk needs to be pulled back.
Obviously, Richt and his staff are getting a lot right. The Bulldogs are favored to win the SEC East. They’re projected to open the season as a top-10 team.
But imagine if they actually had everybody there.
“We’re not recruiting bad kids,” Richt said in a private media session with local writers Thursday at SEC Media Days. “We’re recruiting a lot of great kids. Other schools are recruiting the same guys.”
Have the negative headlines of this offseason given him reason to pay closer attention to a recruit’s personal blemishes?
“We do find out as much as we possibly can,” he said. “There are rules on how many times we can call a kid and see him in person. We try to maximize those things.”
Sorry. But losing seven of 26 kids from one recruiting class in one year screams that there’s a need for a better filter.
Richt was accurate when he said, “To say that issues aren’t happening around the country isn’t really realistic.”
But losing at least five starters (Crowell plus four on defense suspended) is significant.
Crowell, after multiple suspensions and missteps his freshman season, was bounced following his arrest on felony gun charges. Cornerback Sanders Commings is gone for two games following an arrest for domestic violence. Safety Baccari Rambo (possibly four games), cornerback Branden Smith and linebacker Alec Ogletree all reportedly tested positive for marijuana. Three other freshmen (Nick Marshall, Chris Sanders, Sanford Seay) were kicked out for their reported involvement in a campus theft.
Some of Georgia’s problems can be attributed to having a tougher drug-and-alcohol policy than other schools. But that doesn’t explain everything. The recruiting mistakes will hurt.
The we’ll-be-better-off-without-him rallying cries regarding Crowell makes for a nice locker-room speech. But it’s just not factual. He was Georgia’s best running back — by a long shot — and the Dogs’ potential issues on the offensive line don’t suggest just anybody can be productive.
This will be a team that must rely on its defense and its resolve. The Dogs’ ability to rebound from a 0-2 start with 10 consecutive wins last season said something about the character of the players who aren’t getting arrested (even if that was followed by two more losses to LSU and Michigan State). It’s a team with a solid quarterback (Aaron Murray), strong leadership and several players who bypassed the NFL draft last season to come back for another season. But the suspensions and player losses will hurt.
“There’s been more attrition the last couple of years than there has been since we’ve been at Georgia,” Richt said. “But sometimes that happens. We’ll still have plenty of guys to field a team.”
Then again, if just having enough players was the criteria, there would be celebrations in Toledo and Ole Miss. The question now is whether the Dogs’ chances for a special season have been undone before they’ve even played a game.
By Jeff Schultz
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Thomas Brown
July 20th, 2012
11:39 pm
kingdaddy July 20th, 2012 7:47 pm
“If Coach Richt…kicks anymore kids off the team, we may not have enough to play 4 quarters of SEC caliber football”
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Now, you are making my point. The answer to which of course is not kicking fewer off as punishment, but actually having some discipline on and off the field.
When Matthew Stafford at Talladega and Aaron Murray at FSU game can be photographed HOLDING A BEER under-age, and play every second of the next game; when little Aaron Murray can Tweet to Boise State pre-game that he is headed to the Dome to get some butt, and play every second of the game, are perfect examples of an utter lack of discipline.
If you can run on this blog and brag that Odell Thurman or Montez Robinson were not afforded as well multiple mulligans for all their bad press too, then you’re a DISNEYdawgs.com troll – and, that is all you will be.
Meanwhile the rest of us, and soon you too, have long-since figured out our utter lack of discipline (not to be confused with tough punishment), we have not beat any team making the top 10 in 7 seasons now this 2012 season and we haven’t beat any SEC team who put up a winning SEC Record starting with the Kentucky game in 2007 six seasons ago now this 2012 season.
Missouri is a sorry football team, ranked # 42 pre-season who ended up 2011 one of the top 48 teams like Auburn and Georgie tek, lost most of their team, has no special teams, no passing game, and no defense.
If we put up 11-3 with this schedule of 1 opponent who made any top 25 and all the other opponents averaging 4.8 wins, there is no way this team will be considered great.
And, if you think 3.41 average recruits will beat the top 10 teams better than 3-13 with the average 3.65 average recruits they are replacing, you need to put down the jack and go to bed. That ain’t cool.
Brainiac(Dawg For Life) / (CMR fan for life)
July 20th, 2012
11:46 pm
Schultzie:
Seems to me you should hire “Just Me”(8:53am post) but serioudly the fullblown batsh_ _ crazies on here should be forced to read(or have some literate persons read it to them since most probably can’t read) JUST MEs comments for 24 hours nonstop.
It is frightening that there are so many idiots trying to do damage to anything UGA!!!!!!!!!!!!
5150 UOAD
July 20th, 2012
11:49 pm
Brainiac(Dawg For Life) / (CMR fan for life)
July 20th, 2012
10:08 pm
@ Wrinkler:
Grenades don]t ignite LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How do you think Grenades Explode?
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=diagram+of+a+hand+grenade&hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS448US448&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=juZmPOw6sue3BM:&imgrefurl=http://science.howstuffworks.com/grenade2.htm&docid=P9pgih8TjznOeM&imgurl=http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/grenade-delay.gif&w=398&h=415&ei=hSYKUObYJImu8QTr4PzzCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=174&vpy=132&dur=38&hovh=229&hovw=220&tx=114&ty=126&sig=102314615073596656726&page=1&tbnh=134&tbnw=127&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:75
Diagram of a grenade.
Brainiac(Dawg For Life) / (CMR fan for life)
July 20th, 2012
11:50 pm
@ Thomas Brown:
Listen oh mentally challenged one. I’ll go slow for your benefit.
IT AIN’t ILLEGAL TO HOLD A BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got it???? GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5150 UOAD
July 20th, 2012
11:56 pm
It is illegal to hold an open beer it you are underage. MIP….Minor in Possision. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brainiac(Dawg For Life) / (CMR fan for life)
July 21st, 2012
12:04 am
@ 5150:
Thanks for the BEAUTIFUL picture of a grenade. I happen to own one(disabled of couse) but you just can’t have too many pictures of grenades.
In Vietnam we were told that grnades detonate but do not IGNITE. I would send you a picture from Mr. Webster’s dictionary but it will give you something to do while I get ready for bed.
PS: Assuming you know who Mr. Webster is.
I still love your nosy, opinionated dumba$$ anyway.
Brainiac(Dawg For Life) / (CMR fan for life)
July 21st, 2012
12:10 am
@ 5150:
You are wrong twice!!!!!!
It is NOT illegal to hold a beer/beer can and I believe the word you are looking for is spelled POSSESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brainiac(Dawg For Life) / (CMR fan for life)
July 21st, 2012
12:12 am
@ 5150:
Who said abything about an “OPENED” beer??????????????????????????????
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
12:13 am
Mark Richt, SEC Media days last night : “Oh, I don’t know, if Zach Mettenberger was still with Georgia, Zach would be competing to be the starter, if not being the starter.”
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
12:17 am
And, what about his pic, wearing glasses, two other men in the room, posing for the pic in bed with Kristin ?
Sabermetric Meister
July 21st, 2012
12:20 am
You don’t have a clue Jeff. Not saying Richt is without his flaws but this is totally off base. This goes on everywhere at an alarming rate but at Georgia, AND TO RICHT’S CREDIT, you hear about EVERY incident. Way off base here. Enjoy 75% of your columns. Your spin on this problem is tone-deaf.
Brainiac(Dawg For Life) / (CMR fan for life)
July 21st, 2012
12:25 am
@ Thomas Brown:
Do everybody a favor and read the 8:53am post by “Just Me”. It will not only keep you occupied for a couple of days but will also spare us some of the MEGABYTES of hogwash you attempt to share with us.
I don’t expect miracles but just maybe you will find some facts that even a 5th grader, with an open mind has looked up via Google. Good luck and I still love your uneducated a$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
12:34 am
I see, too, you duck not only possession of an open container, bragged about on the Internet; but also the unsavory pic wearing glasses on every possible front, and you duck the Tweet pre-game that he’s headed to the Dome to kick some butt; and then, of course, there is the little stunt he pulled putting his name in the hat for the NFL draft to see what they would tell him, to be told by Mel Kiper that son, when the game is on the line, and you get the football back, who do you think of against the great teams the world watching you on the stage.
Then, there is this :
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by ecdawg 18 May 2011 “The odds on an Aaron Murray bet to win the 2011 Heisman Trophy are +4000. As I understand it, if I’m wrong – correct me, those odds mean that $100 bet on Murray will pay $4000 (and multiples thereof) if he wins. Got a spare $100? Aaron could make some money for you.”
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Instead, he continued his winless streak, heebie-jeebies of 0-9 vs any team making any top 25 poll, while in 27 starts needing to go 13-1 both 2012 and 2013 to just tie David Greene’s Win Record, while he actually put up these numbers : 23 fumbles in 27 starts, 22 interceptions in 27 starts, 7 carries a game all 27 starts for 1 yards per carry average, and finished the season # 72 nationally in completion percentage WITH Malcolm Mitchell.
Mark Richt SEC Media days, if he was still with Georgia he certainly would be competing to be starter, if not being the starter. Leaving in our “little peanut,” not Zach Mettenberger Mark Richt, so that he could throw 5 touchdown passes against Louisiana Lafayette while continuing his streak of 11 games to-date finding the OTHER quarterback head-to-head that day, far better.
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MARK RICHT, YOU SAY ZACH METTENBERGER MIGHT BE THE STARTER TODAY ?
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I am sorry; I am not impressed to the point that no one else ever gets any significant snaps.
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
12:47 am
You mean like these wise words of your own Brainiac ? Are these the words you want me to go study ?
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Brainiac(Dawg for life)(CMR fan for life) June 24th, 2012 4:28 pm
“@ Thomas brown: CMR may not be the best coach in the SEC”
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and
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Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life) April 22nd, 2012 11:32 pm
“LSU does NOT have a winning record against CMR!!!!”
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and
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Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life) April 22nd, 2012 11:21 pm
“This time PAY ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!! NO SEC team has a winning record against CMR.”
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Bobo's 6th child
July 21st, 2012
12:47 am
I’m putting 500cheddar on Murray and we’ll go get some ribs TBoneBrown!
DaltonHilliard
July 21st, 2012
12:49 am
Zach won’t be the Georgia Bulldogs problem….It will be our 3 deep OL and DL and our 3rd string TB like in the SEC TITLE GAME!
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
1:02 am
THE GRIT TREE
Strict punishment, and Discipline are 2 completely different stories with our program. We have the former to the highest degree possible, and we have never had any semblance of the latter on or off the field the entire 12 years now and counting.
BlackOutSkinnyOne?
July 21st, 2012
1:04 am
Thomas? You have more info than Claude and Loren but answer one question if you havent ran off for some fatback. What team played in the SEC Title game from the East?
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
1:06 am
No. We’ve never been Blessed like we are at running back all 12 years now. It’s the fact that even our Beloved Mark Richt said at SEC Media Days last night that
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MARK RICHT SAYS ZACH METTENBERGER MIGHT BE STARTER TODAY
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Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
1:07 am
You’re talking about the 10-42 game ?
BlackOutSkinnyOne?
July 21st, 2012
1:12 am
Yes. What positives can you write about the DAWGS this season?
DaltonHilliard
July 21st, 2012
1:13 am
The 42-10 game!!! LMAO. Came hard in 1st half but we smothered you Bulldogs!
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
1:14 am
And, what’s wrong with crackling ? You got a problem with me liking crackling ? It tastes good. Fatback is excellent at Mary Mac’s Tea Room in their collard greens we ate last weekend, and the dinner cost over $ 20 bucks each with water. Stick to a point, if you ever have one. There isn’t anything wrong with fatback.
I certainly know a lot more about our won/lost record than some so-called brainiac telling me we don’t have a losing record with Mark Richt to Florida.
Or, LSU.
Or, Nick Saban.
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
1:21 am
POSITIVES :
(none of which are made up lies to prop-up a coaching staff Mark Richt hired)
1. Keith Marshall – SEC Freshman of the Year & Team Captain
2. Jarvis Jones – most celebrated linebacker in our 120-year storied history
3. Senior Defense – all of whom are gone for Alabama 2013
4. Schedule 1 team made any top 25 and 11 opponents avg 4.8 wins
5. We haven’t beat up any girls in at least a month
6. We didn’t call police on 3 stealing over $ 500 cash & other valuables
7. Or, we would have the run-away Fulmer Cup lead again
8. We haven’t lost to any Top 10 team 2012 yet
9. We may not even play one, until SEC Championship Game
10. Mark Richt finally got his extension I called for November
11. November day we got Keith Marshall commitment
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Now, what do you see as some of the areas we need to improve upon ?
boykin
July 21st, 2012
1:45 am
Finally some positives brother TB!!!!! Lost you on #3, though. Did an underachieving Richt deserve an extension,,,after you RAGE against him on every post you make? Can NC boy make a dent this season?
boykin
July 21st, 2012
1:51 am
Marshall Frosh of Yr? Ease up…Samuels will be da Man and Keith wont get much PT…Malcome will take care of biz as well!
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
2:01 am
Jeff Schultz said himself that arrests go on everywhere in the very article your hero replied to at 8:53 am this morning, so his statement then that : “The arrest record at UGA is not particularly out of line with the arrest record of players at other, large university football programs.” just is a lot of Excuses for what the real story Jeff Schultz writes about today – a point which even kingdaddy says before his drunken stupor he brags about doing daily in here sent him to bed early, is a going to be a serious problem if we lose any more signed scholarship recruits when we only have 68 of them left and one transfer-in already 16 short of 85-man limit. This poster has never had a significant post on this blog, ever; and, this one at 8:53 am this morning certainly doesn’t change that, does it ?
The UGA problem as detailed by Jeff Schultz to which he and you write, is that we have so many gone from the team, just when in our best chance 2012 with the soft schedule according to all at SEC Media Days ending yesterday.
If we had Discipline – personal accountability – instead of strict punishment, we would all be pulling in the same direction. Instead, all Mark Richt has said to-date about all the bad press Aaron Murray has brought this program is that well he doesn’t value the football 23 fumbles 22 interceptions, that he holds the ball too long 56 sacks (and I add 1 yards a carry 7 carries a game) in 27 starts beating none of the top teams Aaron Murray himself describes as well no I guess there isn’t a marquee win. While the entire team notices the favoritism of leaving him in vs Louisiana Lafayette until he throws 5 touchdown passes; and now this gem from Mark Richt just last night if Zach Mettenberger were still on The Georgia Team, he certainly would be competing for the starter at QB, if not actually being the Starter at QB for UGA today.
Then, there is you telling us how great Mark Richt is because he has a winning record over Florida you say, a winning record over LSU you say and winning record over Nick Saban you say – while you point out your own bloody self that Mark Richt may not be The Best Coach in The SEC getting his wins over a 4-win Alabama and another Alabama squad who the very same year lost to Louisiana Monroe.
Beating up on the sisters of the poor, is not what made me into the diehard Bulldogs’ Football fan I am. You ? Yeah, sure. As long as Christian Mark Richt and his “coaching staff” can be propped-up for going into our best chance 2012 with this favorable schedule 16 players under the 85-man limit – like that will hold up for 14 games. No, it will not as was told to you DISNEYdawgs.com that it will.
I still want us to beat a team who makes the Top 10.
I am holding out for that, and for you to quit telling lies and answer a question since you make me do so, and that is what do you see as areas we can improve upon ?
Or, even better yet, what is so bloody great about our current status other than starting # 6 in the nation with the softest schedule of any SEC team for the 2nd year in a row now, and having Mark Richt finally signed to his extension after signing Keith Marshall and getting Jarvis Jones and the entire senior defense back 2012 ?
That’s all lovely.
Where is the win over a team who makes the Top 10 ?
Who is the next to make it 67 signed scholarship recruits all we have plus the 1 transfer-in ?
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
2:21 am
10. and
11. not # 3
And, yes Mark Richt deserved an extension as I have stated daily starting November. I think he can fix this on and off field stuff. Certainly, that is Greg McGarity’s job to make sure he does. Just as they both were hired by still here president Mike Adam$, and it is on his watch all this is happening.
I am dawg-tired of this bad press. Dawg-Tired of it.
I am also Dawg-Tired of these spins like we don’t have problems on the field with Discipline and don’t have problems off the field with Discipline. We have a tough standard to punishment, mind you; but that in no way is Discipline.
If a football team has Discipline, they see that they have a favorable schedule – I mean look at 1980. And, they don’t – Mark Richt’s signed scholarship recruits he himself brought in here, find themselves 16 men short of the 85-man limit.
But, that’s where we are, isn’t it ?
It is I who came up with that. Anyone after, took it HERE from me.
I did the research.
I know it off the top of my head.
And, it is I who point out that we’ve not beat any SEC team starting Kentucky 6 seasons ago now in 2007 who put up a winning SEC record. And, I who point out that we’ve not beat any team making the Top 10 since 7 seasons ago when we beat # 9 Auburn in 2006 losing the same year to 2-win Vandie beating only 0-12 Duke and 1-11 Temple.
Yet, daily, all I get are the same old tired Excuses :
1. Everyone else has arrest issues
A: No other team has 68 signed scholarship recruits of 85-man limit
2. Mark Richt is the best coach in The SEC
A: No, # 6
3. Mark Richt was winning record against LSU, Florida, Nick Saban
A: No
4. You’re a better fan than I because you settle for all this
A: Not in a pig’s eye – you’re the problem; I’m the solution
You keep making the same let’s be honest about it stupid statements to which I am steadfast.
dirtywhiteboy
July 21st, 2012
2:46 am
It all comes down to mama and daddy, if they would have raised these kids to know right from wrong obay the rules we wouldn’t have these issues. Blameing Richt or UGA for how some kids act and don’t follow the rules is stupid. The kids know the rules and still choose to do it any way. They get what they deserve. You cann’t expect a a coach or a school to be keep taps on every kid to make sure they do whats right. The kid should know at any age what the rules are and not break them. We are all too freakn soft now days letting kids have what they want to make them happy and not punishing them when they need it. If these kids had been raised right and taught to follow the rules and do as they are told. They wouldn’t have this problem at UGA or any school period.
buckk
July 21st, 2012
3:03 am
#6 best coach…hahahehehaha
franchione
July 21st, 2012
3:06 am
Mr. Brown. Coach Richt is best Coach since Vince Dooley. You wanted extension though you cannot stand him. Interesting.
buckk
July 21st, 2012
3:08 am
Coach wasn’t given an extension based on Marshall and Senior D. Please…
dirtywhiteboy
July 21st, 2012
5:25 am
It goes back too kids, if your kid gets in trouble in high school do you blame the teacher? No the kid? Or your self for not teaching right from wrong. Its not the teachers fault, they have them for a small part of the kids life, same as the coach’s. CMR has a life other than the football players, at some point the players have to take care of their self’s. You cann’t blame any one but the player for his or her actions. I mean smoking dope and carrying guns with seral numbers scratched off. Most everyone in this world knows that its wrong and against the law. But they do it any way. Is it the coach’s fault? Can the coach or school keep an eye on these kids 24/7 NOPE!! Can you keep an eye on your kids 24/7? NOPE!! When these kids are in high school all the coaches know is their football stat’s not their personality or if they are trouble makers or smoke dope or run with the wrong crowd.
AAAAA Athens Bail Bonds R Us
July 21st, 2012
5:52 am
Any more UGA players arrested?
Falcon 34
July 21st, 2012
6:03 am
Did ANY of these posers actually go to my beloved collige? Graduation is an utter impossibility. If you are a ‘UGA fan’ who purchased your gameday gear from WalMart, please try the Tech blog sites!
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
6:57 am
WallMart or like AZdawg, goes to a game or 2, not season ticket holders like us
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
6:58 am
Or a game like Buffalo when someone gives him a ticket
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
6:58 am
Never said senior defense reason why I said Mark Richt deserved an extension.
Show me where I sais that ?
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
6:59 am
I like Mark Richt. He can recruit. Rodney Garner is burned-out.
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
7:03 am
Mark Richt’s decisions Mis-Management of his roster he recruited here and his decisions on his “coaching staff” are 2 of many areas he needs to learn head coach skills. Vince Dooley could have taught him that. Offensive strategy is another. Pass-happy offense in The SEC is yet another. Face it. He’s young. If you let him move on, and the new contract certainly caters to that – he will go somewhere else and there he clearly will not make these same mistakes on-going with his staff and roster Mis-Management. Rather have him stay here and learn here. You ? You don’t care about UGA football. You barely go to any game ever, if any. All you care about is Mark Richt is Christian.
NOTHING ELSE.
Brainiac(Dawg For Life) / (CMR fan for life)
July 21st, 2012
7:45 am
Thomas Brown:
CMRs coaching record is much better than Vince Dooley’s!!!!!!!!!!!
Brainiac(Dawg For Life) / (CMR fan for life)
July 21st, 2012
7:49 am
@ Dirty white boy:(6:25am post)
You got it right Bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
7:52 am
Not # 6 ? Huh ?
5 SEC schools net revenues of over $100 million:
# 1 Alabama ($124,498,616)
# 2 Florida ($123,514,257)
# 3 LSU ($107,259,352)
# 4 Tennessee ($104,368,992)
# 5 Auburn ($103,982,441).
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# 6 SEC Coach win% vs Top 5 time of game all 11 yrs
# 6 SEC Coach win% vs teams making Top 25 all 11 yrs
# 55 nationally bowl record win % at 7-4 all 11 years
# 52 Average NCAA Total Offense all 11 years
# 37 coach Mark Richt Score Touchdowns all 11 years
# 52 coach on Converting 3rd Down all 11 years
HERE IS THE ACTUAL LIST
Winning percentage head-to-head SEC coaches during Mark Richt era :
92.41 win % Chris Petersen Boise State 2001 to present winning record vs Mark Richt
85.00 win % Chip Kelly Oregon 2001 to present
80.65 win % Les Miles SEC 1 national championship winning record vs Mark Richt
83.62 win % Pete Carroll Southern California 1 national championship not vacated
84.62 win % David Shaw Stanford 2001 to present
82.81 win % Jim Tressel 1 national championship during Mark Richt era head to head
81.25 win % Ur ban Mey er SEC 2 national championships win record vs Mark Richt
80.41 win % Bob Stoops Oklahoma 2001 to present 1 previous national championship
80.28 win % Mack Brown Texas 2001 to present 1 national championship
80.00 win % Larry Coker 2 schools 1 national championship on Mark Richt’s watch
79.83 win % Nick Saban SEC Mark Richt era 3 NC winning record vs Mark Richt
78.99 win % Gary Patterson TCU 2001 to present
78.57 win % Dave Doeren Northern Illinois 2001 to present
76.92 win % Dana Holgorsen West Virginia 2001 to present
76.92 win % Hugh Freeze Ole Miss 2001 to present
75.95 win % Bret Bielema Wisconsin 2001 to present
75.00 win % Gene Chizik SEC one national championship on Mark Richt’s watch
74.91 win % Joe Paterno until some of the wins are vacated cover-up
74.83 win % Frank Beamer Virginia Tech 2001 to present
74.26 win % Bobby Petrino Arkansas Mark Richt era head-to-head
73.61 win % Mark Richt 0 national championships beat 1 AP Poll Top 10 after 2005
Richt apologists wish to limit the list when these are the results on the field in the Mark Richt era, head-to-head. Get over it. I am sorry to inform Mark Richt is # 6 coach in win percentage of just SEC coaches head-to-head in the Mark Richt era, isn’t he ?
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Only Vandie Missy St have fewer wins over teams making Top 10 all 11 yrs
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Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
8:03 am
Wally Butts 1st 11 years vs made AP Poll Top 10 :
Alabama # 10 AP Poll 1942 won
Georgie tek # 5 AP Poll 1942 won
Alabama # 2 AP Poll 1945 lost
North Carolina # 9 AP Poll 1946 won
Alabama # 6 AP Poll 1947 lost
North Carolina # 9 AP Poll 1947 lost
Georgie tek # 10 AP Poll 1947 lost
North Carolina # 3 AP Poll 1948 lost
LSU # 9 AP Poll 1949 won
4 wins 5 losses Wally Butts 1st 11 years vs teams actually made AP Poll Top 10
.4444 win percentage Wally Butts 1st 11 years vs teams made AP Poll Top 10
1942 (11-1-0) – Wally Butts National Champions 1942 Berryman; DeVold; Houlgate System; Litkenhous; Poling System; Williamson System.
1946 (11-0-0) – Wally Butts National Champions 1946 Williamson System
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Vince Dooley 1st 11 years vs made AP Poll Top 10 :
# 01 Alabama 1964 lost
# 01 Alabama 1965 won
# 09 Miami of Florida 1966 lost
# 10 SMU 1966 Won Cotton Bowl ranked NC by Massey Poll
# 08 Georgie tek 1966 won
# 06 Arkansas 1966 lost
# 08 Ole Miss 1969 lost
# 10 Auburn 1970 won
# 08 Tennessee 1972 lost
# 07 Alabama 1972 lost
# 05 Auburn 1972 lost
# 04 Alabama 1973 lost
# 10 Miami of Ohio 1974 lost
# 08 Auburn 1974 lost
4-10 Vince Dooley 1st 11 years to Mark Richt 3-13 vs made AP Top 10
.4000 win percentage Vince Dooley 1st 11 years vs teams made AP Poll Top 10
1966 – Record: 10-1 Massey Ratings National Champions 1966 1 of 6 UGA
1968 – Record: 8-1-2 Litkenhous National Champions 1968 1 of 6 UGA
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Mark Richt all 11 years vs teams made AP Poll Top 10 :
26-24 Win 2001 # 4 AP/Coaches TOG #6 /#7 vols*
10-24 Loss 2001 # 3 AP/Coaches TOG 6/6 Florida*
13-34 Loss LSU 2003 # 2*
10-17 Loss LSU 2003 # 2*
06-24 Loss Allbarn 2004 # 2*
34-14 Win LSU 2005 # 6*
35-38 Loss West Virginia mountaineers 2005 # 5*
14-21 Loss Crocodiles 2006 # 1*
37-15 Win Allbarn 2006 # 9*
30-41 Loss Alabama 2008 # 6*
10-49 Loss Crocodiles 2008 # 1*
17-41 Loss Crocodiles 2009 # 3*
31-49 Loss Auburn 2010 # 1*
21-35 Loss Boise State 2011 # 8*
42-45 Loss Sakerlina 2011 # 9*
10-42 Loss LSU 2011 # 2*
3 wins 13 losses vs Mark Richt all 11 years vs made AP Poll Top 10
.1875 win percentage all 11 years Mark Richt vs made AP Poll Top 10
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SUMMARY:
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3-13 Mark Richt 1st 11 yrs vs made AP Poll Top 10 win % .1875
4-5 Wally Butts 1st 11 yrs vs made AP Poll Top 10 win % .4444
4-10 Vince Dooley 1st 11 years vs made AP Poll Top 10 win % .4000
237 percent better than Mark Richt Wally Butts 1st ll years vs Top 10
213 percent better than Mark Richt Vince Dooley 1st 11 years vs Top 10
2 National Championships Wally Butts 1st 11 years as a direct result
2 National Championships Vince Dooley 1st 11 years as a direct result
0 National Championships Mark Richt 1st 11 years as a direct result
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5150 UOAD
July 21st, 2012
8:04 am
Brainiac….”In Vietnam we were told that grnades detonate” check your spelling LOL.
OK The detonator ignites the explosive material. I guess it is semantics but I see your point.
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
8:04 am
Wally Butts 1st 11 years vs made AP Poll Top 10 :
Alabama # 10 AP Poll 1942 won
Georgie tek # 5 AP Poll 1942 won
Alabama # 2 AP Poll 1945 lost
North Carolina # 9 AP Poll 1946 won
Alabama # 6 AP Poll 1947 lost
North Carolina # 9 AP Poll 1947 lost
Georgie tek # 10 AP Poll 1947 lost
North Carolina # 3 AP Poll 1948 lost
LSU # 9 AP Poll 1949 won
4 wins 5 losses Wally Butts 1st 11 years vs teams actually made AP Poll Top 10
.4444 win percentage Wally Butts 1st 11 years vs teams made AP Poll Top 10
1942 (11-1-0) – Wally Butts National Champions 1942 Berryman; DeVold; Houlgate System; Litkenhous; Poling System; Williamson System.
1946 (11-0-0) – Wally Butts National Champions 1946 Williamson System
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Vince Dooley 1st 11 years vs made AP Poll Top 10 :
# 01 Alabama 1964 lost
# 01 Alabama 1965 won
# 09 Miami of Florida 1966 lost
# 10 SMU 1966 Won Cotton Bowl ranked NC by Massey Poll
# 08 Georgie tek 1966 won
# 06 Arkansas 1966 lost
# 08 Ole Miss 1969 lost
# 10 Auburn 1970 won
# 08 Tennessee 1972 lost
# 07 Alabama 1972 lost
# 05 Auburn 1972 lost
# 04 Alabama 1973 lost
# 10 Miami of Ohio 1974 lost
# 08 Auburn 1974 lost
4-10 Vince Dooley 1st 11 years to Mark Richt 3-13 vs made AP Top 10
.4000 win percentage Vince Dooley 1st 11 years vs teams made AP Poll Top 10
1966 – Record: 10-1 Massey Ratings National Champions 1966 1 of 6 UGA
1968 – Record: 8-1-2 Litkenhous National Champions 1968 1 of 6 UGA
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
8:05 am
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Mark Richt all 11 years vs teams made AP Poll Top 10 :
26-24 Win 2001 # 4 AP/Coaches TOG #6 /#7 vols*
10-24 Loss 2001 # 3 AP/Coaches TOG 6/6 Florida*
13-34 Loss LSU 2003 # 2*
10-17 Loss LSU 2003 # 2*
06-24 Loss Allbarn 2004 # 2*
34-14 Win LSU 2005 # 6*
35-38 Loss West Virginia mountaineers 2005 # 5*
14-21 Loss Crocodiles 2006 # 1*
37-15 Win Allbarn 2006 # 9*
30-41 Loss Alabama 2008 # 6*
10-49 Loss Crocodiles 2008 # 1*
17-41 Loss Crocodiles 2009 # 3*
31-49 Loss Auburn 2010 # 1*
21-35 Loss Boise State 2011 # 8*
42-45 Loss Sakerlina 2011 # 9*
10-42 Loss LSU 2011 # 2*
3 wins 13 losses vs Mark Richt all 11 years vs made AP Poll Top 10
.1875 win percentage all 11 years Mark Richt vs made AP Poll Top 10
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SUMMARY:
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3-13 Mark Richt 1st 11 yrs vs made AP Poll Top 10 win % .1875
4-5 Wally Butts 1st 11 yrs vs made AP Poll Top 10 win % .4444
4-10 Vince Dooley 1st 11 years vs made AP Poll Top 10 win % .4000
237 percent better than Mark Richt Wally Butts 1st ll years vs Top 10
213 percent better than Mark Richt Vince Dooley 1st 11 years vs Top 10
2 National Championships Wally Butts 1st 11 years as a direct result
2 National Championships Vince Dooley 1st 11 years as a direct result
0 National Championships Mark Richt 1st 11 years as a direct result
Thomas Brown
July 21st, 2012
8:14 am
Mark Richt cannot beat the top teams
Mark Richt has not beat the top teams all 11 years
Mark Richt will NEVER beat the top teams
Mark Richt poor roster Mis-Management
Mark Richt poor decisions on coaching staff
Mark Richt 68 signed scholarship recruits
Mark Richt same 85-man limit as everyone
Mark Richt self-imposed 16 Lost Scholarships 2012
Mark Richt today is on a long losing streak top 10 teams
Mark Richt best years never beat team making top 10
Mark Richt confuses tough punishment with Discipline
Mark Richt more bad press than any school
Mark Richt bad press off-the-field
Mark Richt bad press on-the-field
Mark Richt # 6 of just 2012 SEC teams won/loss after 2005
OleBallCoach
July 21st, 2012
8:25 am
I don’t think it has as much to do with the kids you sign as much as the discipline and expectations that are set for them up front. Many are still immature adults with too much energy and that is why they are out at 3 in the morning. It’s just what kids do.
Coaches can’t be friends and get the job done. Being friends implies that I can do stuff and will be forgiven.
Sure there is cover up at other schools, but that does not make it right. do you want them to be good team players and respect their team mates and coaches, or just cover it up. Tough love is what is needed is UGA is ever going to get this under control.
I think bringing back a tougher athletic dorm might work, but it would have to be one that players didn’t want to go to with constant monitoring on class attendance, curfews, study halls, no girls allowed in, etc. If they are going to act like 16 year old’s, then treat them like 16 year old’s with a strict daddy, the meanest coach as their in house resident.
Something is amiss at UGA, and until that is figured out, it will be the same old story continuing ad infintum.
Ed Pilcher
July 21st, 2012
8:27 am
Good Lord. You media types make me want to puke. You cannot have it both ways. You complain if 5-star recruits go elsewhere, even though you probably already know,,,,,as does the UGA coaching staff…. that they would be a poor risk due to character issues or academics. But on the other hand, you also complain when there were no character issues in high school, the recruit gets on campus, and then he screws up and gets booted.
Recruiting is a crapshoot at best. For every David Pollack or Charlie Ward that does things the right way, there’s a Greg Reid or a Crowell that can’t behave.