Frank Wren can't let this season's opportunity slip away without a move. (Curtis Compton)
(Second update: 11:35 p.m.)
John Smoltz looks at the Braves and sees what everybody else sees.
“They’ve made some adjustments offensively, but the inconsistency of their starting pitching has them where they are,” he said. “Win six, lose eight. Win five, lose four. They’re stuck in neutral.”
Neutral isn’t necessarily a bad place to be, particularly in the National League East. When baseball’s second half opened Friday, the Braves were only four games behind the Washington Nationals, which is better than being four games behind a team with an actual resume. The Nationals’ franchise last made the playoffs 31 years ago in a whole different language (Montreal).
There’s also this curious matter of Stephen Strasburg. Washington maintains it’s serious about this plan to limit its best starting pitcher (and his surgically repaired arm) to 160 innings. That could be construed as telling Nats fans, “We really, really want to win the division, but not really,” and/or telling the Braves, “Do you want to win the division? Here, we’ll put the ball on the tee for you.”
Strasburg is only 61 innings from hitting the mandated ceiling. Washington plays 79 games after the All-Star break. In a five-man rotation, that factors to 16 starts for Strasburg in normal circumstances. But at an average of six innings per start, there’s room for only 10 starts before the medical stop sign goes up. So the Nationals would lose six potential starts from their No. 1 starter … in a pennant race … when they have never made the playoffs in Washington.
The Nationals may shelve pitcher Stephen Strasburg for equivalent of six starts in the second half of the season.
“I don’t buy it,” Tommy Hanson said. “I mean, good for us – we don’t have to face him.”
“I’ll believe it when I see it,” Chipper Jones said.
“I’m sure when they came up with this plan, they didn’t expect to be this good this year,” Smoltz said. “It’s a good problem to have for the future. But right now it’s a PR nightmare.”
The Braves’ return Friday had a nightmarish look. There was a blackout in the second inning, causing a 16-minute delay. Tim
Tim Hudson was mediocre, leaving in the fifth inning after allowing four runs on eight hits. (AP photos)
Hudson had his own power outage (four runs, eight hits allowed in four-plus innings). The strange decision to not immediately bring in a shortstop to replace the injured Andrelton Simmons backfired when backup Jack Wilson suffered a dislocated finger in the fourth, forcing Martin Prado to move in from left field and Eric Hinske to come off the bench. (Even if general manager Frank Wren figured he was close to a trade, the one-game risk was nonsensical.)
To open the second half, the Braves didn’t look like a smooth operation. Still, they defeated the New York Mets 7-5, and the big picture is unchanged: They have an opportunity. This should be viewed by management as a go-for-it season. That means make a deal for a starting pitcher and loosen the death grip on the pitching prospects.
The Braves can’t really know what this team will look like next season. Jones is retiring, which leaves a hole in the clubhouse. A number of other big contracts are up. And those perceived great pitching prospects (Mike Minor, Randall Delgado, Julio Teheran) that Wren has refused to let go of? Not so great yet.
“I’d like to see us get a pitcher,” Jones said. “You would be amazed how consistent you play when you’ve got five guys who expect to win every time they walk out there.”
But when asked about trading youth, he added: “The Braves have been very stingy with their young guys, and we saw first-hand what can happen when you mortgage the future for the quick fix in [the Mark] Teixeira [trade]. I don’t see them going all out again.”
They shouldn’t hold back. The main names that are circulating: Milwaukee’s Zack Greinke and the Chicago Cubs’ Ryan Dempster and Matt Garza (4.32 ERA). But Wren said Friday he has had only casual conversations with other clubs, and he still doesn’t have a sense for what clubs will demand in trade.
“Teams haven’t measured the market yet,” he said. “Right now the conversations are, ‘If this guy is available, would you be interested?’”
Does his team need starting pitching?
“We got a starting pitcher in Ben Sheets. We’ll get a chance to see Ben in the next few weeks leading up to the deadline and see what else we need.”
What they need seems pretty obvious, and the Nationals may leave an opening.
By Jeff Schultz
364 comments Add your comment
Larry Boy
July 13th, 2012
10:36 pm
Holy crap! Uggla got a hit!
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
10:37 pm
Well ill say this Uggla is one of the smartest baserunners in the Majors
Caseyatthebat
July 13th, 2012
10:37 pm
Sonny Clusters, in case you haven’t gone to bed…………Chipper has single, double and home run. Batting over .300. This demands creativity in your relentless criticism of him. Sleep well Sonny.
Larry Boy
July 13th, 2012
10:39 pm
Hinske looks like a left guard- not a left fielder.
JC Boscan III
July 13th, 2012
10:40 pm
Where’s Conrad tonight?? He got a pinch hit single for Tampa tonight. Odd fact — his career regular season fielding pct. at 2B is .992, much higher than the league average. (note: I didn’t mention 3B nor the playoffs).
Also, Drew Sutton, who could’ve been on our bench, is hitting well over .300 with the Pirates and batting leadoff – after we unloaded him from Gwinnett.
SG10
July 13th, 2012
10:40 pm
Jeff,
I agree with you on that..although he did have few dramatic moments early on in the season after that playoff misery but overall, he had a bad season. It wasn’t ‘Greg Norton’ bad but it wasn’t good. I wasn’t particularly sad when he wasn’t re-signed but my comment about missing him was from the years when he was phenomenal in clutch situations and off-the-bench..current bunch is a collective failure..
dean
July 13th, 2012
10:40 pm
I can’t hang anymore tonight. Gotta get up at 4-too- early to head to the airport. If I wake up to bad news I’m going to be pissed. “Gotta hold ‘em Braves!” as an old announcer used to say. Good night.
Loosing Managar = Loosing Record
July 13th, 2012
10:42 pm
Why do they keeps saying Chiper has a hall of fame carer?
SG10
July 13th, 2012
10:42 pm
Jeff,
Would you compare Conrad = Pastornicky when it comes to boneheaded plays or lack of smart plays is probably more polite?
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
10:43 pm
So Jeff have you seen Sheets pitch in any minor league starts? Do you know where his fastball was clocked at?
Tom(Independent Viet Vet USAF)
July 13th, 2012
10:44 pm
Archie – That was a good one about Henski!!!
SG10
July 13th, 2012
10:45 pm
J-Man, I read 93 mph. Plus 10 Ks in 10 innings is not bad at all to go with 1 walk..sample size is too small though. I hope Braves give him more than one start, no matter how Sunday’s goes..
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
10:46 pm
I still think Pastornicky can become decent defensively but he needs another season of Minor League ball. Another mistake this season was letting Pastornicky be the opening day SS instead of Simmons who outperformed him. That move alone cost the braves at least 5 games
SG10
July 13th, 2012
10:47 pm
J-Man, Yeah. That brings me back to my question earlier, what is the Braves ERA with Simmons in the lineup and without? My gut feel is that it is substantial..
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
10:47 pm
I dont see why Minor isnt expendable now that we have his exact double in Sean Gilmartin.
Loosing Managar = Loosing Record
July 13th, 2012
10:47 pm
N E 1 else getting tried of all the CHiper hype?
SG10
July 13th, 2012
10:48 pm
At 93 mph, Sheets could be hardest throwing Braves starter in the current group? I read somewhere that Nationals starters’ average fastball velocity is 94 mph!
Jeff Schultz
July 13th, 2012
10:49 pm
SG10 — Can’t compare the 2 and it’s really not fair to Pastornicky. Don’t know how good he is but kid’s only 22. Conrad 10 years older.
Jeff Schultz
July 13th, 2012
10:50 pm
J-Man — No. And no.
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
10:50 pm
I think we should offer Minor, Eduardo Salacedo, and Delgado for Grienke only if we lock him up long term
Tom(Independent Viet Vet USAF)
July 13th, 2012
10:50 pm
You guys are right about our bench players, they are so far past their prime, just collecting paychecks now! Guys like Constanza and Mejia need to be brought up and allowed to stay for a least several months, not a one week thing and then back down.
Billy
July 13th, 2012
10:52 pm
Rev is now a 2b and OF’er…he will be player Conrad always wanted to be.
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
10:53 pm
Well Omar Infante is available according to ESPN. Lets go after him to be our SS until Simmons comes back and he can be our Super Utility man like he was in that All-Star season of 2010
Loosing Managar = Loosing Record
July 13th, 2012
10:54 pm
Grate anoter strile out
Loosing Managar = Loosing Record
July 13th, 2012
10:55 pm
I darnk 2 much JD tonite. I just through up on my shoes
Jeff Schultz
July 13th, 2012
10:56 pm
O’Flaherty for Medlen.
Larry Boy
July 13th, 2012
10:57 pm
They should let Prado close in the ninth. I’m sure he could.
SG10
July 13th, 2012
10:57 pm
As a Braves fan, which team do you currently hate more, Phillies or Marlins? With Jose Reyes, Hanley Ramirez, Guillen and their owner (Loria?), Marlins edge ahead for me..
For me, Mets are now NL’s new lovable losers and Nationals are young and dynamic..
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
10:59 pm
Here are the moves I think should be made
1. Trade for a Starter …….Go for Grienke
2. Get a SS………………….. Jamey Carroll or Omar infante
3. get another late inning reliever…….Jonathan Broxton
4. Bring up Meja and Constanza to replace Diaz and Hinske.
Now tell me I cant do a better job than Frank Wren lol
Tom(Independent Viet Vet USAF)
July 13th, 2012
10:59 pm
J-Man – Good choice(Infante or Keppinger from TB), I would be happy with either or both!!
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
11:00 pm
Wait whose the people in the offseason that said Prado couldnt field SS
SG10
July 13th, 2012
11:00 pm
J-Man, Do you think Marlins would trade Infante within the division? I hope that happens though..
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
11:01 pm
Like I said we need another late inning reliever. Lets go for Broxton
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
11:02 pm
Well the Marlins traded in the division to get him in the 1st place remember.
Billy
July 13th, 2012
11:03 pm
With Wren I don’t expect nothing. Fredi said Braves have been talking trade for 4 days..Wren just said they hadn’t. Who is tell the lie? I beginning to believe both are full of it.
SG10
July 13th, 2012
11:04 pm
Yeah, you are right so I hope they do it again…
Prado one Kenobi
July 13th, 2012
11:05 pm
Jeff the Braves must have been on something in spring training when they thought about trading Prado. He is the Braves MVP!!!
Bravissimo
July 13th, 2012
11:05 pm
Jeff…did you take sonnys suggestion and fill your pockets with cheese and bread during power outage??
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
11:05 pm
I think its dumb to wait for Moylan to come back from injury he hasnt played a full season since 2009 and when he has been in he hasnt pitched like he used to, so we need to go on ahead and go after Broxton
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
11:07 pm
Well let me be the GM I will at least do something. Unlike Wren
Billy
July 13th, 2012
11:08 pm
Sheets hadn’t either J-Man.
Joe from the 'ville
July 13th, 2012
11:08 pm
Hey Jeff. We need a media guy to go #mikewallace on the Braves and find out why Medlin doesn’t get a start. Their answers are lame. Your the man to do it!
Billy
July 13th, 2012
11:09 pm
Glavine has done a great job tonight filling in for Joe.
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
11:09 pm
Thats true but were not waiting for Sheets hes being thrown right in there Sunday
Jeff Schultz
July 13th, 2012
11:11 pm
Braves have 9 walks. Mets 4. No wonder this game taking so long.
J-Man
July 13th, 2012
11:14 pm
Smoltz still does color commentary better than Glavine …..and everybody else.
Seriously Fox should dump McCarver (How in the heck did he win the Ford Frick award) for Smoltz
I gotta vent how the Hell is Tim McCarver going into the hall of Fame and none of our great broadcasters (Ernie Johnson Sr., Pete Van Weren, or Skip Carey arent) I mean come on they were part of they first syndicated national Brodcast of Major league Baseball with TBS, yet the Writers will not acknowledge them……Seriously Schultz you and the entire AJC need to raise cain about that and draw up petitions.
Larry Boy
July 13th, 2012
11:15 pm
What was heyward doing?
Billy
July 13th, 2012
11:16 pm
Thats true..I hope he does great. What does that say for Spring Training? He got ready in 3 weeks and has not pitched in 18 months. But thats a cheap pitcher that may pay off big.
Prado one Kenobi
July 13th, 2012
11:18 pm
Who was it that the Braves wanted for JJ and Prado? That center fielder from Baltimore- Adam Jones? Can he play SS or 1st or 3rd? Just Asking??
Jeff Schultz
July 13th, 2012
11:21 pm
Mets pitchers apparently lost the strike zone over the All-Star break.