Braves have opening vs. Nats, but still need to make move

Frank Wren shouldn't let opportunity of this season slip away without a move. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Frank Wren can't let this season's opportunity slip away without a move. (Curtis Compton)

(Second update: 11:35 p.m.)

John Smoltz looks at the Braves and sees what everybody else sees.

“They’ve made some adjustments offensively, but the inconsistency of their starting pitching has them where they are,” he said. “Win six, lose eight. Win five, lose four. They’re stuck in neutral.”

Neutral isn’t necessarily a bad place to be, particularly in the National League East. When baseball’s second half opened Friday, the Braves were only four games behind the Washington Nationals, which is better than being four games behind a team with an actual resume. The Nationals’ franchise last made the playoffs 31 years ago in a whole different language (Montreal).

There’s also this curious matter of Stephen Strasburg. Washington maintains it’s serious about this plan to limit its best starting pitcher (and his surgically repaired arm) to 160 innings. That could be construed as telling Nats fans, “We really, really want to win the division,  but not really,” and/or telling the Braves, “Do you want to win the division? Here, we’ll put the ball on the tee for you.”

Strasburg is only 61 innings from hitting the mandated ceiling. Washington plays 79 games after the All-Star break. In a five-man rotation, that factors to 16 starts for Strasburg in normal circumstances. But at an average of six innings per start, there’s room for only 10 starts before the medical stop sign goes up. So the Nationals would lose six potential starts from their No. 1 starter … in a pennant race … when they have never made the playoffs in Washington.

The Nationals' Stephen Strasburg could be shelved the equivalent of six starts in second half. (AP photo)

The Nationals may shelve pitcher Stephen Strasburg for equivalent of six starts in the second half of the season.

“I don’t buy it,” Tommy Hanson said. “I mean, good for us – we don’t have to face him.”

“I’ll believe it when I see it,” Chipper Jones said.

“I’m sure when they came up with this plan, they didn’t expect to be this good this year,” Smoltz said. “It’s a good problem to have for the future. But right now it’s a PR nightmare.”

The Braves’ return Friday had a nightmarish look. There was a blackout in the second inning, causing a 16-minute delay. Tim

Tim Hudson left in the fifth inning after allowing four runs on eight hits.

Tim Hudson was mediocre, leaving in the fifth inning after allowing four runs on eight hits. (AP photos)

Hudson had his own power outage (four runs, eight hits allowed in four-plus innings). The strange decision to not immediately bring in a shortstop to replace the injured Andrelton Simmons backfired when backup Jack Wilson suffered a dislocated finger in the fourth, forcing Martin Prado to move in from left field and Eric Hinske to come off the bench. (Even if general manager Frank Wren figured he was close to a trade, the one-game risk was nonsensical.)

To open the second half, the Braves didn’t look like a smooth operation. Still, they defeated the New York Mets 7-5, and the big picture is unchanged: They have an opportunity. This should be viewed by management as a go-for-it season. That means make a deal for a starting pitcher and loosen the death grip on the pitching prospects.

The Braves can’t really know what this team will look like next season. Jones is retiring, which leaves a hole in the clubhouse. A number of other big contracts are up. And those perceived great pitching prospects (Mike Minor, Randall Delgado, Julio Teheran) that Wren has refused to let go of? Not so great yet.

“I’d like to see us get a pitcher,” Jones said. “You would be amazed how consistent you play when you’ve got five guys who expect to win every time they walk out there.”

But when asked about trading youth, he added: “The Braves have been very stingy with their young guys, and we saw first-hand what can happen when you mortgage the future for the quick fix in [the Mark] Teixeira [trade]. I don’t see them going all out again.”

They shouldn’t hold back. The main names that are circulating: Milwaukee’s Zack Greinke and the Chicago Cubs’ Ryan Dempster and Matt Garza (4.32 ERA). But Wren said Friday he has had only casual conversations with other clubs, and he still doesn’t have a sense for what clubs will demand in trade.

“Teams haven’t measured the market yet,” he said. “Right now the conversations are, ‘If this guy is available, would you be interested?’”

Does his team need starting pitching?

“We got a starting pitcher in Ben Sheets. We’ll get a chance to see Ben in the next few weeks leading up to the deadline and see what else we need.”

What they need seems pretty obvious, and the Nationals may leave an opening.

By Jeff Schultz

364 comments Add your comment

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
9:03 pm

Mets on the board. That’s two hard hit balls and a walk in inning off Hudson.

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:03 pm

sezWho: June 29th: Braves second baseman Dan Uggla didn’t like it much, but he didn’t argue either, when manager Fredi Gonzalez gave him his first day out of the lineup of the 2012 season Friday night against the Nationals. It was a little longer ago than I thought.

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
9:04 pm

2 more runs … Make that 5-3. I think it’s time for a visit to the mound.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:04 pm

ok, how long is Fredi going to let Hudson get hammered?

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:04 pm

Come on, Tim, settle down.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:06 pm

As far as the Braves really making a run into and deep playoffs a bench player and a starting pitcher are a must. Dangle Delgado for bait.

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:07 pm

Come on, Ump!

Alaska Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:08 pm

Marco Pillow: One sore spot for me is that in my entire life I will not have earned $5 million, and I have done OK by middle class standards. I wouldn’t mind if players earned quite a lot, because their careers are much shorter than mine – 5 to 20 years as compared to my 36 and counting. Still, to earn several times, sometimes very many times my lifetime earnings stings. Of course, when I pay for tickets and subscribe to MLB I help underwrite those salaries, so I guess I’m being a bit hypocritical.

ABF

Marco Pillow

July 13th, 2012
9:08 pm

Make that new SS now!

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:08 pm

Wilson dove for the ball and is coming off the field.

Delbert D.

July 13th, 2012
9:08 pm

Sheets is the low price, high risk plan. He may account for 3 or 4 losses with no wins, or maybe not, to try to be fair. In terms of getting back in the race, those would be expensive losses. In addition of getting, say, Greinke as a best case, the missing-man-at-shortstop formation must be addressed. Otherwise the best efforts of the starting pitchers circle that drain.

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
9:09 pm

Where are the elephants? We need elephants.

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:10 pm

Looks like Prado is moving to short. Heinski going to left field.

sezWho

July 13th, 2012
9:10 pm

No problem, Jax. I haven’t seen anything out of fg that impresses me. Right now the Braves look like the Keystone Cops.

G

July 13th, 2012
9:10 pm

Frank Wren idiot….. No backup shortstop. Can we call him what he is.

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
9:10 pm

OK, so that no backup shortstop thing didn’t work out tonight …. Jack Wilson hurt. Prado moves from left to short. Hinske going in game in left field.

Sonny Clusters

July 13th, 2012
9:10 pm

Were you thinking Fredi going to the mound or somebody else? Wilson is hurt and Prado is going to SS. The wheels are coming off. Make the deal.

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:11 pm

Looks like Wilson might have dislocated or broke a finger. Prado has played 2 games at short, last time in 2008.

B Cox

July 13th, 2012
9:11 pm

Yes, A left-handed starter would be great. Frank Winn should try for something realistic…Joe Saunders from the Diamondbacks would be a pretty good pickup.
Trade Uggla, Delgado and Teheren for Saunders plus a minor league prospect.
Let Prado play second base while Constanza and Diaz can play left field.

J-Man

July 13th, 2012
9:11 pm

Fredi Gonzalez strikes again by not calling up SS before the game……WORST MANAGER IN BASEBALL

Marco Pillow

July 13th, 2012
9:12 pm

Hes the only Brave besides Hinske sucking. Give me one year at $5 million and im set for life.

Alaska Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:12 pm

Maybe not being able to watch this particular game isn’t so very bad. Are we snake-bit?

ABF

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:12 pm

Oh God! Heaven help us on a fly to left.

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:14 pm

Guarantee you that the roster move wasn’t Freddie’s call. It was Wren. And I don’t think you can really blame him for not making a move if he has a deal in the works. Just bad luck.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:14 pm

That is a legitimate second guess on Fredi (and Wren) not having a utility infielder (that can play short) .

Sonny Clusters

July 13th, 2012
9:15 pm

Looks like an elephant in left field.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:15 pm

Jeff, if you call up a guy for a 2 day stint in the Majors does that count against future non waiver moves with that player?

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:15 pm

Who’s better defensively in left, Heinske or Diaz? Glad I didn’t have to make that call.

Marco Pillow

July 13th, 2012
9:15 pm

I bet Don Sutton & Reggie Jackson wont be having dinner anytime soon…

SG10

July 13th, 2012
9:16 pm

Can Prado pitch too? That could end our starting pitcher search…

Phil

July 13th, 2012
9:16 pm

At least it gets Wilson out of the lineup … maybe the replacement can hit better than a pitcher

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:16 pm

an almost laugher getting away

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
9:16 pm

Murphy — 9th batter in the inning.

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:17 pm

I’d agree it’s a legitimate second guess if we hadn’t lost short stops in back to back games.

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:17 pm

Way to go, Martin!

Marco Pillow

July 13th, 2012
9:17 pm

Can we get a damn manager? Take Hudson out.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:17 pm

Prado is a jack of all trades

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
9:17 pm

Wow …nice play by Prado, especially coming in cold.

Sonny Clusters

July 13th, 2012
9:18 pm

Prado can play anywhere, do everything. If he is traded we are through with the Braves.

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
9:18 pm

Todd — I’m guessing yes — a move is a move. But not an expert on all of those bb rules.

SR

July 13th, 2012
9:18 pm

Damn right it is a legitimate second guess Todd G and good point- same ol moron Wren.

Frank

July 13th, 2012
9:19 pm

How about recall Constanza to play left field and let Prado play shortstop! What a play!

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:20 pm

thanks, how many ups and downs does a guy get before out of options?

Delbert D.

July 13th, 2012
9:22 pm

“Yes, A left-handed starter would be great”

Even at shortstop. I don’t want Prado to fall victim to the obvious curse on that position.

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
9:22 pm

Hudson single and a double. Need to bat him sixth.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:23 pm

i would assume that EVERY game is important to the manager. only ones he shouldn’t care about are the 15-1 losing efforts. the non shortstop move was like being a couple of runs ahead in a game and ceding a couple of innings to get to the 9th. (I’m not sure i understand what i wrote)

Gimme a Break

July 13th, 2012
9:23 pm

Perhaps Hudson should be giving Uggla batting tips.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:24 pm

somethings wrong! glad he batted but why in the heck did he get the opportunity? Fredi asks and a pitcher’s arm could be falling off and if he says “i’m ok Skip” the guy stays in for further hammering.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:25 pm

Gosh, think Hudson might be getting tired stranded at second base?

sezWho

July 13th, 2012
9:27 pm

OK, we have known for how many days that simmons couldn’t play? Then theres the All Star break for four days, and the powers that be did nothing? Fine mess you got us into Wren.