Braves have opening vs. Nats, but still need to make move

Frank Wren shouldn't let opportunity of this season slip away without a move. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Frank Wren can't let this season's opportunity slip away without a move. (Curtis Compton)

(Second update: 11:35 p.m.)

John Smoltz looks at the Braves and sees what everybody else sees.

“They’ve made some adjustments offensively, but the inconsistency of their starting pitching has them where they are,” he said. “Win six, lose eight. Win five, lose four. They’re stuck in neutral.”

Neutral isn’t necessarily a bad place to be, particularly in the National League East. When baseball’s second half opened Friday, the Braves were only four games behind the Washington Nationals, which is better than being four games behind a team with an actual resume. The Nationals’ franchise last made the playoffs 31 years ago in a whole different language (Montreal).

There’s also this curious matter of Stephen Strasburg. Washington maintains it’s serious about this plan to limit its best starting pitcher (and his surgically repaired arm) to 160 innings. That could be construed as telling Nats fans, “We really, really want to win the division,  but not really,” and/or telling the Braves, “Do you want to win the division? Here, we’ll put the ball on the tee for you.”

Strasburg is only 61 innings from hitting the mandated ceiling. Washington plays 79 games after the All-Star break. In a five-man rotation, that factors to 16 starts for Strasburg in normal circumstances. But at an average of six innings per start, there’s room for only 10 starts before the medical stop sign goes up. So the Nationals would lose six potential starts from their No. 1 starter … in a pennant race … when they have never made the playoffs in Washington.

The Nationals' Stephen Strasburg could be shelved the equivalent of six starts in second half. (AP photo)

The Nationals may shelve pitcher Stephen Strasburg for equivalent of six starts in the second half of the season.

“I don’t buy it,” Tommy Hanson said. “I mean, good for us – we don’t have to face him.”

“I’ll believe it when I see it,” Chipper Jones said.

“I’m sure when they came up with this plan, they didn’t expect to be this good this year,” Smoltz said. “It’s a good problem to have for the future. But right now it’s a PR nightmare.”

The Braves’ return Friday had a nightmarish look. There was a blackout in the second inning, causing a 16-minute delay. Tim

Tim Hudson left in the fifth inning after allowing four runs on eight hits.

Tim Hudson was mediocre, leaving in the fifth inning after allowing four runs on eight hits. (AP photos)

Hudson had his own power outage (four runs, eight hits allowed in four-plus innings). The strange decision to not immediately bring in a shortstop to replace the injured Andrelton Simmons backfired when backup Jack Wilson suffered a dislocated finger in the fourth, forcing Martin Prado to move in from left field and Eric Hinske to come off the bench. (Even if general manager Frank Wren figured he was close to a trade, the one-game risk was nonsensical.)

To open the second half, the Braves didn’t look like a smooth operation. Still, they defeated the New York Mets 7-5, and the big picture is unchanged: They have an opportunity. This should be viewed by management as a go-for-it season. That means make a deal for a starting pitcher and loosen the death grip on the pitching prospects.

The Braves can’t really know what this team will look like next season. Jones is retiring, which leaves a hole in the clubhouse. A number of other big contracts are up. And those perceived great pitching prospects (Mike Minor, Randall Delgado, Julio Teheran) that Wren has refused to let go of? Not so great yet.

“I’d like to see us get a pitcher,” Jones said. “You would be amazed how consistent you play when you’ve got five guys who expect to win every time they walk out there.”

But when asked about trading youth, he added: “The Braves have been very stingy with their young guys, and we saw first-hand what can happen when you mortgage the future for the quick fix in [the Mark] Teixeira [trade]. I don’t see them going all out again.”

They shouldn’t hold back. The main names that are circulating: Milwaukee’s Zack Greinke and the Chicago Cubs’ Ryan Dempster and Matt Garza (4.32 ERA). But Wren said Friday he has had only casual conversations with other clubs, and he still doesn’t have a sense for what clubs will demand in trade.

“Teams haven’t measured the market yet,” he said. “Right now the conversations are, ‘If this guy is available, would you be interested?’”

Does his team need starting pitching?

“We got a starting pitcher in Ben Sheets. We’ll get a chance to see Ben in the next few weeks leading up to the deadline and see what else we need.”

What they need seems pretty obvious, and the Nationals may leave an opening.

By Jeff Schultz

364 comments Add your comment

JimBob

July 13th, 2012
8:40 pm

Jeff Schultz
July 13th, 2012
8:37 pm

By the way, if there’s a blackout in Alaska, and it stays light there for 23 hours a day, does anybody notice the power’s out?

LMAO!

Alaska Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:41 pm

Jeff,

Good point. We’re on the Kenai Peninsula, 225 miles south of Anchorage, so our longest day still has about 4 hours of relative darkness. In the interior, above the Arctic Circle, 24 hours of daylight. Most Alaskans stay awake most of the summer and sleep a great deal during the winter.

ABF

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:44 pm

ABF, middle of the 3rd. Hudson singled in the bottom of the 2nd, Bourne made an out and Prado hit into an around-the-horn double play. Mets 1-2-3 in the top of the 3rd.

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
8:45 pm

Todd — It’s not Jerry Sandusky. Almost certain.

Columbus

July 13th, 2012
8:45 pm

It depends on who we can get in return. Must be an above average starter thats for sure. BUT there is not a rush right now. Lets see how Sheets does because if he pitches like his old self, hes lights out. Dont forget JJ nor that Minor and Delgado have pitched great in their last 2 starts. ALL of them. Personally I would NOT trade any of them. UNLESS it was for a 1 or 2 starter to go along with Hanson and Hudson.

Braves have options and young players to trade and several options including going with what we got and Sheets. IF the right pitcher with the right contract or one that would resign, then I might trade one of the guys for a REALLY, REALLY, GOOD PITCHER. The thing with OUR younguns, they are cheap for a few years. JJ, not so much depending on what he does the rest of the way…IF JJ gets his strength back, HE IS AWESOME I.E. LAST YEAR BEFORE HE GOT HURT AND SHOULD HAVE STARTED THE ALLSTAR GAME….

TOUGH CALL……GOTTA BE THE RIGHT PITCHER FROM A NON-CONTENDER THAT WANTS YOUTH FOR A CONTRACT… AND BRAVES BETTER BE ABLE TO RESIGN HIM…….! OR DONT DO IT AND TAKE A LESSOR PITCHER. ID RATHER HAVE MEDLIN THAN A MEDIOCRE SIGNING AND THEN WOULD GET A LONG RELIEVER IN THE PEN…..

I WOULD NOT EASILY TRADE MINOR, DELGADO OR TEHERAN…..NO WAY. MINOR AND DELGADO OR ON THE VERGE OF BEING DOMINANT…..TEHERAN IS A YEAR OR 2 BEHIND THEM…..

Alaska Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:46 pm

JaxNC Braves Fan: Thanks! I’ll follow along on the ESPN scoreboard. It’s slow, but it does give pitch-by-pitch coverage. Perhaps MLB will kick back in up here soon.

ABF

Jim

July 13th, 2012
8:46 pm

NEVER! NEVER! We do not need another Wainbright or Texas debacle. The Braves have made marginal moves the past four years and failed. Wren has NO MONEY!
1) Pitch the young guys and let them develop
2) Bourne has Boras as his agent and the Braves will NOT be able to resign him. Trade him now while we can get some young prospects for him.
3) Trade McCann now and get some young prosects for him. He will be TOO costly next year and hits into TOO many double pays and is a defensive liability. Bring up Bentacourt to play and develop.
4) use the money from Chipper, Lowe, and McCann next year to either sigh a bat for the outfield with Prado moving to third or sign a third baseman.

Wren needs to show some bold moves. Enough with the incremental appraoch. We do not have a deep pockets Turner any more.

Loosing Managar = Loosing Record

July 13th, 2012
8:46 pm

Must Haywood swig at the fist pitch evertime?

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
8:47 pm

How much does Melatonin go for above the Arctic Circle?

And now, back to the game.

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
8:47 pm

A walk and a double for the old guy tonight. … that’s also a 14-game hitting streak.

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:47 pm

Chipper, one out double. 14 game hitting streak.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
8:49 pm

Thanks Jeff. i was sure that either Sandusky had escaped or Wren had been caught.

Weary Traveller

July 13th, 2012
8:50 pm

Uggla is a non-productive out machine right now

sezWho

July 13th, 2012
8:50 pm

JaxNC Braves Fan: Uggla is at bat now. Popped it up again

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:50 pm

Come on, David. Pick us up!

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:51 pm

That’s what I was talking about!

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
8:51 pm

Ross … gonzo … 3-run jack makes it 5-0.

Weary Traveller

July 13th, 2012
8:51 pm

best back up catcher in baseball

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:51 pm

Three run homer. 5 nothing Braves.

Sonny Clusters

July 13th, 2012
8:51 pm

Did he pop up again?

Casey

July 13th, 2012
8:51 pm

Uggla is worthless!

Alaska Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:52 pm

You know, it’s amazing, but at 40 Chipper still seems to be the key to success for the Braves. What innate talent! Our biggest problem next year will be to replace him and to find a new leader.

As for melatonin: Light boxes have some popularity here because of SAD (Seasonal Affect Disorder), which results from reduced sunlight during the winter. Personally, I love the winters. Our little town feels all warm and cozy then.

ABF

ABF

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
8:52 pm

bad weather has knocked the satellite out. plugged in the radio and Rossi hit a homer! Wonders never cease!

G

July 13th, 2012
8:52 pm

How dumb are the idiots who voted in Dan Uggla as an All Star started. This is another awful decision made by Frank Wren.

SOS Braves

July 13th, 2012
8:52 pm

Uggla = Wilson (i.e. SUCK)

Loosing Managar = Loosing Record

July 13th, 2012
8:53 pm

Its about time Betsy Ross helped out

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
8:53 pm

Jeff, who replaced Simmons on the roster? Not Pasternicky?

SOS Braves

July 13th, 2012
8:53 pm

Can we put in a couple of bat boys for Uggla and POS Wilson?

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:54 pm

All he Uggla haters will be cheering when he gets hot and carries the team for awhile.

Alaska Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:54 pm

It’s killing me that I can’t see this! I’m sending Selig a letter.

ABF

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:55 pm

I don’t think they’ve made a roster move yet. Rumor mill says they’re trying to make a trade.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
8:56 pm

Alaska Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:56 pm

Well, at least now the MLB screen on the computer is showing a “Technical Difficulties” message. Perhaps someone has a hammer?

ABF

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
8:56 pm

Have the Braves given up on Pasternicky?

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:58 pm

I’m not sure if they’ve given up but his defense is suspect. At the very least, they’ve decided he’s not ready yet.

Marco Pillow

July 13th, 2012
8:58 pm

I really hate Uggla

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
8:58 pm

if, Heaven forbid, Ross went down is Freeman the Braves emergency catcher? Or maybe Prado. He seems to be able to play about any position.

sezWho

July 13th, 2012
8:58 pm

JaxNC Braves Fan : I thought you were serious when you said Uggla was sat out at the break. I know he will get hot again, and we know he is trying very hard. Maybe too hard. My point was fg sux not Uggla.

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
8:59 pm

Todd Grantham — no shortstop called up/acquired yet. Expect a move soon. If it was going to be Pastornicky, I’m sure they would’ve done that already. So likely making a minor deal.

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
8:59 pm

MLBRumors: The Braves are working to acquire a veteran stopgap-type shortstop to fill in while Andrelton Simmons is on the disabled list, Jim Bowden of ESPN.com and MLB Network Radio reports (on Twitter). The Braves are hoping to complete a deal in the next 72 hours, Bowden writes.

Atlanta manager Fredi Gonzalez said yesterday that the Braves were considering internal options (presumably Tyler Pastornicky and Josh Wilson) as well as trade options, according to Carroll Rogers of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Backup shortstop Jack Wilson figures to get extra playing time with Simmons injured. The list of potentially available shortstops includes some veteran options that could interest GM Frank Wren.

Marco Pillow

July 13th, 2012
9:00 pm

Can Pastornicky play 2b ?

Weary Traveller

July 13th, 2012
9:00 pm

I think Matt Diaz is the emergency catcher

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:00 pm

i like Uggla but damn he can be a frustrating performer to watch.

Casey

July 13th, 2012
9:00 pm

Pasternicky has been playing 2nd and they won’t to leave him there, continuing what he’s been sent down to do. It doesn’t soound like he’s coming back up anytime soon..

JaxNC Braves Fan

July 13th, 2012
9:01 pm

Announcers are talking about Wright being a free agent next year. I could think of worse options than him replacing Chipper. Probably a long shot…

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:02 pm

wonder if Alex Gonzalez is available.

Jeff Schultz

July 13th, 2012
9:02 pm

JaxNC Braves Fan — That’s accurate, which is a word I don’t always use with Jim Bowden. …. And BTW, Braves have been known to announce trades in the 9th inning or after games. So it wouldn’t stun me if they did something tonight.

Marco Pillow

July 13th, 2012
9:02 pm

Uggla should give back $5 million. He aint earning it.

Gimme a Break

July 13th, 2012
9:03 pm

Here’s a move. Sit Uggla! I literally have to change the channel when he comes to bat – same as I did with Franceour.

todd grantham

July 13th, 2012
9:03 pm

Wow, Tyler’s stock has pulled an Enron.