Chipper Jones goes on DL — can Braves win without him?

Chipper Jones has missed six starts since getting by a ground ball. (AP photo)

Chipper Jones missed his seventh straight start with calf injury suffered at Tampa Bay.

(Updated: 11:31 p.m.)

When the Braves returned home Friday night, they didn’t have the usual look of a team just one game out of first place.

Their egos: dented from being swept in a four-game series for the first time in three years. Chipper Jones’ left calf: a blistered-and-blood-engorged mess from taking a missile of a grounder just above the ankle. Freddie Freeman: still unsure whether to go with the new prescription goggles or new contacts for the dry eyes that caused blurry vision. Brian McCann and Matt Diaz: fluish (although Diaz strangely felt comforted that he was now coughing up “red and green” mucus).

But near the end of May, despite a five-game losing streak, the arrow still generally points north for a team that played 29 of its first 46 games on the road — except for one significant area. They’re not giving much of an impression they can win without Chipper Jones.

This is an important issue, and not because Jones missed the entire four-game series in Cincinnati, and the Braves were swept. Even before his injury and at a time when seemingly everybody else in the lineup was hitting, the team still struggled without Jones.

Jones went on the disabled list following Friday’s 7-4 loss to Washington. He still has significant pain in his left calf and the Braves decided it wasn’t worth it to force him back into the lineup this weekend. But this isn’t meant to be an examination of whether he is too brittle at the age of 40. What happened to him at Tampa Bay last week could’ve happened to a 20-year-old: He took a B.J. Upton ground ball off his calf and the leg swelled and mutated. (Jones said, “I’ve never been hit that hard, ever,” and he was told if his ankle area had not had not been “cushioned” by socks and his shoe, the grounder would’ve broken a bone.)

The issue is whether the Braves are too dependent on one player to be successful. They’ve now played 47 games. They’re 21-8 when Jones has started or made at least one plate appearance and 5-13 when he hasn’t played at all. Discounting late-game appearances, the Braves are 19-5 (.792) when Jones starts and 7-16 (.304) when he doesn’t.

A winning percentage drop-off without Jones would be expected. Just not 488 points.

Maybe the Braves are better equipped to manufacture runs with Michael Bourn’s speed at the top of the batting order. Maybe hitting coach Greg Walker has improved the club’s situational hitting. But the contrasting won-loss records are alarming, particularly since Jones is going to be out of the lineup every few games even when he’s “healthy,” just to protect his knees.

“When he comes back, I don’t think he’s going to miss six or seven games in a row again,” manager Fredi Gonzalez said.

But just in case, does the team still need to prove it can win without Jones?

“Yes. But I don’t think he’s going to miss six or seven in a row again,” Gonzalez said. “If he misses six, seven in a row, we’re in trouble. But any team is going to have a hard time surviving when a guy in the middle of their lineup misses [a number of] games. The Phillies, without [Ryan] Howard and [Chase] Utley, they’re kind of treading water.”

Players don’t seem overly concerned about the situation, although Bourn said, “You never want to depend on one guy, but Chipper is who he is, and we’re going to miss him when he’s not in there. After this year, you’re going to have to get used to it because he’s not going to be here.”

Jones is having a strong season. He is third on the club in batting average (.307) and RBIs (24). He believes his presence brings “a calming influence” to others.

But, he said, “If you’re asking me whether guys go up to the plate and think, ‘Chipper’s not in the game so I’ve got to step up,’ I don’t think that’s the case. I just think what’s happened lately is I’ve missed quite a few games, and some guys have kind of fallen out out of the trees that they were in offensively.”

He sat out Friday. He may be out again Saturday. The Braves need to start figuring out how to win without him.

By Jeff Schultz

274 comments Add your comment

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
8:33 pm

D-bo — What I think is that McDowell is a good pitching coach. Sometimes it’s not the coach.

D-bo

May 25th, 2012
8:33 pm

No one ever addresses my question:(

Nativebird

May 25th, 2012
8:35 pm

I betcha Prado can Play behind the plate. Martin can play anywhere.

Cocern

May 25th, 2012
8:35 pm

Reminds me of September.

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
8:35 pm

Two important bits of news: Martin Prado triples and Ilya Kovalchuk just scored: Devils lead Rangers 2-0 (win and they’re in Cup finals).

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
8:36 pm

Prado just smokin’ — now with multi-hit games in 12 of the last 17.

Nativebird

May 25th, 2012
8:38 pm

Ah yes, Ilya….the deal that was the beginning of the end for the Thrashers.

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
8:39 pm

Can Freeman get Lasik between innings?

D-bo

May 25th, 2012
8:39 pm

R u really not going to address the most pressing braves issue: pitching, and McDowell’s lack of ability to get the most of his pitchers?

SOS Braves

May 25th, 2012
8:42 pm

Can we please just trade Freeman and Uggla for a bag of balls?

D-bo

May 25th, 2012
8:45 pm

No coincidence, McDowell the reason for the poor pitching down the stretch and the poor pitching this season. No?

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
8:47 pm

D-bo — Are you really Leo Mazzone in disguise?

D-bo

May 25th, 2012
8:47 pm

Still won’t address the question:(?

D-bo

May 25th, 2012
8:48 pm

I think we should get mad dog, don’t you?

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
8:50 pm

David Ross officially has a right groin strain– day to day.

BBQ MAN

May 25th, 2012
8:55 pm

chill people. it’s not fantasy BB

Sonny Clusters

May 25th, 2012
8:56 pm

Is an official groin strain more painful than the other kind? We was always very protective of our groin.

Fan of the Game

May 25th, 2012
8:58 pm

You know, I bet Cal Ripken hurt sometimes too, but dang it he played. It is called toughness.

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
8:59 pm

Clusters — An area worthy of protecting.

Sonny Clusters

May 25th, 2012
9:00 pm

Can you see Fredi’s cap from where you are sitting?

Fan of the Game

May 25th, 2012
9:00 pm

Believe me McDowell is not the problem. Getting a healthy tough line up on the field is the problem and we don’t have the farm system we once had to dip down to.

The Grinch

May 25th, 2012
9:04 pm

McDowell isn’t the problem. I believe the Braves will pick it back up and have a good season, but there IS a problem. Without Chipper in the lineup this team has no confidence and no identity. Everyone’s looking at everyone else to step up. That’s directly related to the person in charge of the team’s identity/persona,which is supposed to be Fredi Gonzalez. But because Fredi isn’t capable of taking charge, the job has fallen by default on Chipper with mixed results. It’s not Chipper’s fault; it shouldn’t be his job. This team is talented enough to have a decent season. But until we get someone with a different idea of how to lead than “Oh, well; gotta tip your cap. Who wants ice cream?,” then we’re gonna see a lot of wasted winnable games.

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
9:04 pm

Good news: Braves did not strand a runner in 4th inning. They went 1-2-3.

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
9:06 pm

Tim Hudson threw 33 pitches in the first inning, 29 in the next 3.

Nativebird

May 25th, 2012
9:07 pm

Wow. Pulled groin on a check swing walk…..pretty soon they’ll be drinking beer as they run the bases.

J-Man

May 25th, 2012
9:07 pm

This Braves team was winning in spite of Fredi Gonzalez.
An emotionless manager that does nothing but say “Ti p your cap”.
Losing a 10 1/2 game lead last was in excusable but you Atlanta beat writers did everything to avoid blaming Fredi for that collapse. Now we have been swept by an inferior Reds team and now are gonna lose to the Nats tonight. I wonder if you will hide out if the Nats do in fact sweep us this weekend. We need some accountability.

Earl

May 25th, 2012
9:08 pm

Jeff, about how much money do you think the Braves will have to spend next year? Chipper leaving and freeing up Lowe’s salary should be a sizeable chuck for a free agent or two don’t you think? I know, I know, it’s not related to this game.

J-Man

May 25th, 2012
9:10 pm

I also see that the Braves have fallen back into their selfish AB approach from last year. And nobody want to just draw out ABs, collect walks, steal bases, everyone is swinging for the fences.

Bill

May 25th, 2012
9:12 pm

McDowell may not be the problem but he’s damn not the answer to Braves pitcher development. In fact what the he!! has he ever done for Braves pitchers. He is no comparison to the Rocker.

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
9:14 pm

Martin Prado: 2 doubles and a triple. Seriously?

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
9:16 pm

Earl: I doubt their overall budget will change. But while Chipper and Lowe will be off the books, Bourn will be a free agent and Prado, Hanson, Venters and O’Flaherty are among those arbitration-eligible.

D-bo

May 25th, 2012
9:17 pm

Pitching is the problem everyone, to win a championship you need consistent pitching.

McDowell failed us last year, this is just a continuation.

Not to mention he is a miserable human being.

The Grinch

May 25th, 2012
9:17 pm

Prado’s a pimp.

Bill

May 25th, 2012
9:19 pm

agree D-bo..I wouldn’t let my little league son play for him.

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
9:19 pm

Was a little surprised Nats making a change here until I saw Detwiler was at 100 pitches. He’s out. Wang coming in.

Sonny Clusters

May 25th, 2012
9:20 pm

They sure have a lot of excuses. We haven’t been feeling like ourself the past few days either. When we get up off the sofa we feel light headed and dizzy and like we could use a peanut butter parfait in the worst way. Then, we settle down a little bit and get a dilly bar out of the refrigerator and we forget about the peanut butter parfait. That is not like a Clusters at all.

Earl

May 25th, 2012
9:20 pm

I also figured the budget would remain about the same. I think they will make every effort to sign Bourn and Prado is certainly trying to boost his salary by his play thus far this year. I don’t see them keeping Venters and O’Flaherty long term. Should still be a good amount to put in to free agency or trade for a frontline player.

Jeff Schultz

May 25th, 2012
9:21 pm

Diaz rips a double to knock in 2, thrown out trying to go to 3rd. But it’s 4-3.

Sid

May 25th, 2012
9:22 pm

this organization has passed the Hawks in being the most miserable franchise in Losersville…..and that’s saying a lot.

Earl

May 25th, 2012
9:22 pm

Sure you would Bill!!

oldfart

May 25th, 2012
9:23 pm

That’s not the first time for “that stretching a double into an out” game plan.

Bill

May 25th, 2012
9:23 pm

Peachtree TV didn’t even show the play at third.

Earl

May 25th, 2012
9:24 pm

Chipper is out, Brian is out, Freeman can’t see and we seem surpirsed that the offense is not playing to everyone’s expectaton.

oldfart

May 25th, 2012
9:24 pm

Also, could we get Infante back?

Sonny Clusters

May 25th, 2012
9:25 pm

Do the Braves get flu shots? They sure have a lot of flu-like-symptoms days.

Bill

May 25th, 2012
9:25 pm

No Earl–u don’t know me but I would if he was getting paid to play for the idiot.

oldfart

May 25th, 2012
9:27 pm

I don’t think Liberty has those in the health plan

Bill

May 25th, 2012
9:27 pm

Earl, Brian is behind the plate…

chuck

May 25th, 2012
9:27 pm

Here’s you answer to the Braves problems:
1. The have no ace and a bunch of 4th and 5th starters.
2. Their history shows us that Venters and O’Flaherty had career years last year but have come back to reality.
3. McDowell isn’t effective as the pitching coach.
4. The starting 8 is a joke other than Bourne and McCann.

Earl

May 25th, 2012
9:28 pm

Fair point……but I don’t know Roger either.