LIVE: Hawks hope to redeem themselves, extend season

Can Hawks force a Game 6 after being humiliated in Boston? (AP photo)

Can the Hawks force a Game 6 after being humiliated in Boston? (AP photo)

(This is an early column that will serve as the live blog for tonight’s Hawks’ playoff game against Boston. It will updated afterward. Hawks coach Larry Drew said after this morning’s shoot around that center Al Horford and forward Marvin Williams will start, joining Joe Johnson, Jeff Teague and Josh Smith. Kirk Hinrich will come off the bench. The move allows Johnson to go back to the shooting guard position and get away from defending Paul Pierce, possibly reserving more energy for the offensive end. Whether it works is another matter. By the way, checked with a pal, Todd Fuhrman of the Caesars Palace sports book in Las Vegas. He said that while he hasn’t posted odds on this, he would make the Hawks an 11-1 underdog to win the next three games of the series. I would’ve thought it would be even higher but the fact two out of three games would be at Philips Arena might be a factor.)


Timing is everything, as the partners of the Atlanta Spirit have learned the hard way.

The Hawks’ owners this week sent an email to season ticket holders with a link to a survey, “Help us improve your experience.” Canvassing fans for their opinions on Monday — the day after the team’s humiliating Game 4 playoff loss at Boston Sunday night – probably wasn’t the best strategy, even if the defeat came on the road and the survey focused on the cost of hot dogs and the music played at Philips Arena.

In the end, fans primarily are going to be focused on the product, not the window dressing. They will watch a winner in a damp warehouse with a leaky roof if necessary.

Which brings us back to the Hawks. They faced playoff elimination going into Tuesday night’s Game 5 against the Celtics at Philips Arena. They could point to injuries. They could concede that Boston simply is a better postseason team (as illustrated by the past four years). But folks are getting a little fed up with this same core of players coming up short in the playoffs, and that’s why, “Blow it up,” has been the most prevalent command from the masses.

The complaints might have seemed premature before Game 5. The season hadn’t officially ended yet. But what is an Atlanta fan if not somebody with a feeling of impending doom?

Coach Larry Drew said he’ll sit down with management after the season, commenting, “They’ll be making the decisions on direction, as far as what we’re going to do. Some of these guys have been together for a while. We’ll be talking about the possibilities, but we do that every year.”

As does every team. But this is what sets the Hawks apart from other NBA franchises, and most in professional sports. No part of the organization here may be safe.

Consider:

Ownership: The Spirit put the team up for sale and seemingly had a deal with Los Angeles businessman Alex Meruelo. But the purchase fell through in November and the season opened the following month with the same ownership in place. Spirit partners say they are no longer interested in selling. We’ve learned in the past what they say and what they do often don’t intersect.

General manager: Rick Sund’s contract is up. He has an offer to return but hasn’t decided if he wants to come back. He lives in Seattle. He’ll be 61 in June. He’s financially secure. He might prefer taking the less stressful role of consultant elsewhere rather than take on the potential significant headaches of a team makeover.

Coach: The two-year, guaranteed portion of Drew’s contract is up. He has a team option for next season but hasn’t been told yet if the team is picking that up. Bringing him back seems logical, but a new general manager (or owner) would complicate that.

Roster: Where to start? Josh Smith has asked to be traded. Nine players have expiring contracts (Kirk Hinrich, Tracy McGrady, Jason Collins, Vladimir Radmanovic, Jerry Stackhouse, Jannero Pargo, Willie Green, Erick Dampier, Ivan Johnson). Joe Johnson almost certainly will be back because he has four years and $89.295 million left on his contract. And no, the Hawks aren’t going to amnesty him because nobody is going to cut a check for $89.295 million just to get him off the books.

The Hawks realize the city hasn’t embraced them. They ranked 23rd in league attendance during the season, and that’s with inflated crowd counts (their claimed average: 15,199).

Still, this team had been a resilient bunch this season until the 101-79 loss in Boston.

“We haven’t had a game like Game 4 in quite some time,” Johnson said Tuesday morning. “It was mind-boggling, honestly. I can’t get why we came out and played so poorly when we were so close in Game 3. I’m still puzzled on that.”

Drew responded in the aftermath of the loss the way he has most of this season: with a positive message.

“Like I’ve told our players, I think we’ve had a great season despite that one game, and that game is no reflection on the rest of our season,” he said. “It happened. We watched film. We talked about it and learned from it. Now it’s time to move on.”

The question was: For how long?

Check back later and I’ll let you know of any late lineup changes. Then we’ll live blog from tip-off at 8 p.m.

By Jeff Schultz

164 comments Add your comment

hammer hawk

May 8th, 2012
8:18 pm

If this is 150% effort then that tells me all I need to know about this team.

JSS

May 8th, 2012
8:18 pm

Ivan is a natural mismatch against the Celtics second unit…

JSS

May 8th, 2012
8:21 pm

Well, so much for good starts…

JSS

May 8th, 2012
8:25 pm

OK, weathering the bad start…

Jeff Schultz

May 8th, 2012
8:25 pm

Johnson has missed his first 3 shots.

Jeff Schultz

May 8th, 2012
8:26 pm

Horford out — he’s easily been Hawks’ best player.

heartofdarkness

May 8th, 2012
8:29 pm

Steve Holman full of fight tonight. Chewing on refs, poor shot selection, generally flat play. The effort is there, behind the mike.

heartofdarkness

May 8th, 2012
8:36 pm

It is beginning to sound like Holman is announcing one of the games from the 1919 World Series. Is Arnold Rothstein in the crowd?

JSS

May 8th, 2012
8:36 pm

All he Holman) needs is a pack of Camel’s and heart defibrillator like his idol Johnny Most!

It's Over

May 8th, 2012
8:41 pm

Josh misses his 7th straight shot and then is late getting back to allow Garnett to hit a three. I don’t understand why he has to learn this lesson every game. Stay underneat, don’t settle for jumpers and quit battling the refs.

Tim

May 8th, 2012
8:42 pm

Josh Smith’s last game as a Hawk tonight. Write it down. Hawks will fade in second half and lose by 10+.

Jeff Schultz

May 8th, 2012
8:45 pm

Sorry folks. Major wifi issues. Having almost as many problems as Josh Smith (0 for 8).

hammer hawk

May 8th, 2012
8:47 pm

Theres just no effort…everything is nonshalant

Jeff Schultz

May 8th, 2012
8:47 pm

10 point lead — Hawks just absolutely getting schooled.

Rick

May 8th, 2012
8:50 pm

I am a true Hawks FAN! However this sh*$ is embrassing and disrespectful to real fans. Please take Josh out the game and play Ivan. Josh is playing like a man whi has QUIT! And again where the FUDGE IS JOE “BACK OF MILK CARTON” JOHNSON. This is a shame to fans that route for the home team. At least put some guys in the game who have to play for a contract next year!

Week

May 8th, 2012
8:51 pm

The Hawks are actually worse than their fans from Atlanta wearing Boston gear cheering for the opponents in the crowd. Quitters should be their new name.

It's Over

May 8th, 2012
8:52 pm

Parental Advisory……don’t let your kids watch the Hawk alone. A parent or guardian needs to be in the room to point out all the low basketball IQ plays and emphasize how smart and hard the Celtics play.

Cedrick

May 8th, 2012
8:52 pm

OK, some people in this blog are just plain stupid. Yeah Josh Smith is struggling but without him this year with “THE AMAZING” Joe Johnson being hurt alot this team would not have made the playoffs PERIOD.
Now whats pissing me off tonight is the amazing “NO SHOW” Joe. How the hell you gonna complain about not enough shots but get into the paint point blank from rim and kick it back outside.

Tim

May 8th, 2012
8:55 pm

Joe Johnson is without question the most overpaid player in the NBA and possibly all of sports.

hammer hawk

May 8th, 2012
8:56 pm

just play the backups..this is not real basketball. The Hawks are out their treating it like its a game of 21.

Rick

May 8th, 2012
8:56 pm

Please remove Josh from the game if this is all we are going to get from him tonight. Play Ivan.

Steve

May 8th, 2012
8:57 pm

Jeff, time to blow it up after they lose tonight and start all over, again? Seems like that would make sense. Not like anyone really cares about the Hawks anyway.

That Dude

May 8th, 2012
8:57 pm

The Hawks need a culture change. No matter how talented you are, you will never win with this level of effort.

Rick

May 8th, 2012
8:58 pm

Cedrick I am a HUGE Josh fan, but if he is going to pout and play like he is playing now sit him and lets play Ivan

Smitty

May 8th, 2012
8:59 pm

Are you watching what Im watching . its the same flaws the hawks have shown during the season but all at one time. They don’t rebound well, despite how well Josh jumps, they dont get in a stance or play defense with any intensity, except for Heinrich, they don’t block out, they dont pass well. The Hawks are laughed at by every sportscaster and especially mocked by Barkley, Shaq, Kenny and even Ernie. When will things change. Is it bad coaching, lacadaisical players, as Stephen Smith hinted and as Reggie Miller is saying right now, or is it all of the above./

coacht

May 8th, 2012
9:02 pm

This series should be called the” worst of 7″ not the “best of 7″.

Obxdawg

May 8th, 2012
9:05 pm

Al, stop shooting. You’re killing us.

That Dude

May 8th, 2012
9:05 pm

Smitty, I feel you. My friends tell me they can’t stand to watch the Hawks play, and now I know why.

Rick

May 8th, 2012
9:05 pm

So I guess Drew is just so against putting in Ivan?

JSS

May 8th, 2012
9:05 pm

Come on, close out the quarter strong!

Cedrick

May 8th, 2012
9:06 pm

Rick, I understand that but as soon as you put him in the bench Boston goes straight to the rim.

Jeff Schultz

May 8th, 2012
9:07 pm

Crazy that Hawks are within 4 points despite shooting 12 for 39

Cedrick

May 8th, 2012
9:08 pm

WOW!! A Marvin WIlliams sighting!!!

Cedrick

May 8th, 2012
9:09 pm

Man, Josh Smith is struggling to walk!!

Smitty

May 8th, 2012
9:09 pm

No heart, no passion visible in addition to weak fundamentals, Recipe for failure

Rick

May 8th, 2012
9:09 pm

Who lit the fire?

brett

May 8th, 2012
9:10 pm

Joe Johnson is without question the most overpaid player in the NBA and possibly all of sports and the reason ATL no longer has an NHL franchise!

Jeff Schultz

May 8th, 2012
9:10 pm

Hawks have hit 4 straight 3s … (2 Williams, 1 Johnson, 1 Teague) to take 40-37 lead, first lead since 3-2

It's Over

May 8th, 2012
9:10 pm

I told you the Hawks were still in it!….oh wait, I forgot to change my screen name.

JSS

May 8th, 2012
9:11 pm

Holy smoke, that was some turn around!

Rick

May 8th, 2012
9:11 pm

He must be so banged that I have to imagine Ivan gives us a better chance to rebound. But I see what you are saying Cedrick

Rick

May 8th, 2012
9:13 pm

Is it possible for them to play with the same passion they played with for the last four minutes of the 2nd?

Jeff Schultz

May 8th, 2012
9:18 pm

Hawks tied at half with a strong finish in 2nd quarter. 40-40 despite shooting 15 for 42 (35 percent) from floor. Celtics not much better at 15 for 39 (38 percent). Josh (1/9) and Joe (4/11) are a combined 5/20 shooting.

G

May 8th, 2012
9:20 pm

I love the TNT guys. They kill the Hawks and call it like it is. Kenny Smith says the Hawks think they are just too cool, no emotion and do the same things every game..

Smitty

May 8th, 2012
9:28 pm

The Celtics are not a great team. Despite all their flaws, the hawks can still win this game, this series and even win the next round vs. Philly. Amazing really considering the weaknesses of this team

Rick

May 8th, 2012
9:28 pm

Lets go Hawks

JayInAtlanta

May 8th, 2012
9:30 pm

Unfortunately couldn’t make it to the arena and can’t watch on TV. From this box score I’m seeing, can anyone tell me how the Hawks are sitting on 10 fouls through the first half and Celtics have THREE? How’s the officiating in our house tonight?

5150 UOAD

May 8th, 2012
9:32 pm

HAWKS SUX…………………………………..

Phoenix loves roasted Hawk

May 8th, 2012
9:34 pm

Awe, come on Atlanta fans, you know in your guts these worthless doves are going down – No advancement for you or your queenie birds. When the times get tough, the Hawks fold and go home! Go SUNS!!!!!

JSS

May 8th, 2012
9:34 pm

They don’t drive and force res to call fouls in the paint… No NBA home should have nopt earned at least parity at the line, especially in the playoffs!