Drew Brees looks like fool for not acknowledging bounties

That is sad. What is worse is players being referred to as fearless, and B. Belue saying that Heywood’s hit warmed his soul. Go Figure.

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Brees is a good guy. He (or any other player rep) should be automatically disqualified from sitting on any hearing concerning his own team. It’s just an obvious conflict of interest and it puts him in a very bad spot. Either way he looks bad to someone.

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Drew is a punk….it happened….now move on…obviously Williams knows he was busted because he didn’t even appeal his suspension from the league. Payton thought he was above the rules and the commish slapped him down.

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Who Dat Said that Brees is a “Good Guy? If he is sincere in his statements here, he is lacking intelligence (we know he is a very smart guy). If not, then he is blatently dishonest which makes him not a “good guy” in my book.

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if only the Falcons had a bounty program. maybe they would have played better on defense.

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“We didn’t get any meaningful evidence, or any meaningful truth or facts,”
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Sounds like lawyer-speak. Next time he should use the old Clinton line (under oath), “it depends upon what the meaning of is is.”

Listen, Brees, when a DC in the NFL doesn’t even appeal a indefinite suspension, most of us know what is “meaningful.”

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[...] Harper, Smith, Vilma coud face severe punishment in bounty programSunHerald.comUSA TODAY -Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) -New York Timesall 597 news [...]

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Off on this one, Jeff.

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Bree’s in a tough spot. They be clearly a conflict of interested. I think he should call Petrino and ask how he should handle the situation. Petrino, first, will tell him to lie and deny. Second, Petrino will tell him to call his boss and apologize for the lie and denying. Then Petrino will tell him he should resign. The last advice will be best the one.

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Brees knows more about the bounty system than he lets on. After bounty gate came out , and the way Brees has denied it. Makes me think less of him. Williams was man enough to admit to what they done.
It all started with Payton, he should be band for life as well.
When Brees was trying to break passing record BVG should had a bounty on Brees for passing on Falcons . If I was falcon coach , I would had Spoon or Moore take him out.

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I see one quote from Brees that Schultz could be completely taking out of context. The media has been known to do that from time to time ya know.

Just throwing that out there. Carry on.

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And all I know is roddy white should be glad he lives in atlanta and not ny. Cause we all saw what happened to rocker when he said some things about gays. Roddy gets a pass by the media here though.

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Brees is classless. I’ve been saying it from the time he ran up the score to break the record against us. I hope he is removed from every leadership position, and fined as well. And, as a former New Orleans resident (for work), I can say that place is a 3rd world city. Joke of a city, joke of a fan base, and infrastructure that makes the Dominican Republic look like the Vatican.

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Pro athletes not to good with money. The latest is Warren Sapp. Made 60 mil and netted 38 mil during his career and is BROKE. He should of bought a brain with his first check.

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No one is out to get New Orleans. The league is protecting it’s brand.

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Drew Brees = Enemy along with all the daym saints….Hopefully they miss the playoffs this year!

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I like an incentive bonus program for good play. Extra pay for legal sacks, knock down passes, legal tackles for losses, interceptions, etc…

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As usual the players close ranks and ignore the wrong done by their peers. Brees should have kept his mouth shut.

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All y’all crazy NFL defensive players get paid million of dollars a year to go out and hit as hard and as much as they can. Drew Brees might be a part of the team but he’s in that position for a reason. Everyone just mad because NEW ORLEANS is on the map and we go out there and BUSS HEADS on Sunday’s, get over it people Drew Brees is the top dog and he’s lookin out for his team!!!

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Haha….Cody is either funny or he’s funny.
Is he pretending to be an ignorant Saints fan or is he an ignorant Sains fan? Either way he gave me a chuckle.

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Totally agree. I used to think Brees was a class act and upstanding guy (maybe), but two questionable things stand in the way. Great article, btw. How can the leader of the team not know. Hmmm, everyone that has been punished has confirmed the existence so this makes Brees look very stupid. Two, the running up of scores for records totally validates this classless organization. I always stated, especially in their “Super Bowl” year that the Saints were playing dirty. Brees, be a true leader, admit to mistakes, and move on. If they refuse to own up, I hope the Commish slams them harder.

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Drew Brees is a paper QB — always has been.
Just ask UGA.
The Bounties won the SB b/c of their Coach – then D then – Brees.

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Shultz, you’re better than that (marginally, but still…).

Brees is referring to a pay-for-injury system. The NFLPA has received no proof of such a system. There is proof for a pay-for-performance system, but not pay-for-injury which is being reported. There might actually BE proof, but the NFLPA has not received it.

The fool is the journalist who cannot comprehend the simplest sentences.

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Big Crimson 75,

A paper QB? C’MOOOOOON MAN!!! Think what you want of the Saints and Brees on a personal level or about their “character” as you perceive it, but saying Brees is a paper QB is a joke. He isn’t playing with Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, or Jerry Rice on his squad. He has lead the NFL in passing yards since 06 playing largely with journeymen talent/undrafted FA’s @ WR. Even Colston (the Saints most consistent receiver) was a 7th round pick. The only stellar athletic talent on the Saints receiving squad is Jimmy Graham and last year was his first year seeing significant playing time. I would argue that no one has done MORE as a QB with less talent

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Brees’ behavior was learned from a US President. It is now rampant and accepted behavior. Our society is poorer for it.

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Well Pratt; Rocker said his piece in a national publication about a New york subway. Try thinking first.

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You all are putting drew brees down. But he is a really good guy. Anyone takes time out of his busy schedule to go visit a fan who was dying of cancer. Is number one with. He made the fan’s day sorry to say the didn’t make it to see the saints win the superbowl.

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I think you’re wide of the mark, Jeff.

What is the Union’s role in this matter? To partner with the league? Or to provide an honorable opposition?

It’s the union’s duty to force the league to prove its case. And when the league hands down punishments, it’s the union’s duty to vigorously protect the rights of its players.

Don’t be confused by the roles. It’s not the union’s role to find blame and help punish the guilty.

That is the league’s job. And the union, it sounds like, is forcing the league to do its job properly.

You don’t have to like it. But you do need to understand it.

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I do not know what to think of Brees as I am sure he was under pressure from various sources to say what he did. It is clear, however, that the Saints did not think much of Matt Ryan as they did not place a bounty on him. Further evidence that he is not an elite player.

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Jeff- you put it the only way it could be put- he looks like a fool. I’d like to add that by nature of his position, in his case, he’s to be the unquestioned leader of the team. As such, you’re telling me he didn’t have direct first hand knowledge of this? He cites lack of external proof for his denile when in reality he’s on the inside in a leadership position. Claiming ignorance makes him a fool and a liar. Factor in the contract situation, that he’s got his boot to the throat of the franchise who’s down, down somewhat in part due to his failure to lead (not his fault entirely, but he enabled it to go on) really shows who brees is. Dude, you’re not a Manning or a Brady. You don’t deserve the top pay in the league. If you did, you would have been a leader when it mattered and helped put a stop to this before it crushed your team. Now your’re trying to capitalize for a big pay day. Boo.

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Hey Jeff, educate yourself to the on-field “evidence” of a bounty program:

So no season-ending injuries to opponents in 3 years…one opponent carted off (an O-Lineman with a FINGER INJURY), and average in terms of Personal Foul penalties upheld in the NFL over 3 years.

FACTS–and they point aggressively to the Saints INNOCENCE of anything more than BLUSTER, and BRAVADO!!

You’re a hack journalist, so you REALLY know what bluster and bravado are. 80% of all of your articles are made up of the stuff…

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Funny no Falcons fans willing to comment on the “ON FIELD EVIDENCE” (or actually, lack thereof) of a “pay to injure” program

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How do Loomis, Payton and Vitt still have jobs, considering that Benson supposedly told them to cut it out. Could it be the owner never did?

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Look someone from Atlanta is writing an article that’s hating on the Saints again. Figures! Get a life Jeff and go back to your day job, writting copy for feminine hygiene products.

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So CHOKE still has not shown gratitude for Blank awarding him a 72 million dollar contract, and show some pride and working out in the weight room to improve on that NOODLE are.

Wow that’s the leadership that will pad on that 0-3 playoff record

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Jimmy Crack

April 17th, 2012
1:11 pm

Thank you Mr. Schultz for touching the third rail of the NFL society, the angellic Drew Brees and all his wonderfulness (insert puke).

Remember, just because Matt Ryan’s name didn’t show up on a bounty list or wasn’t overheard on some locker room tape, doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to take him out as well, being a hated rival. What goes around comes around, Drew, and hopefully it will come back around to YOU.

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Why on Earth would an opponent want to place a bounty on the player that gives them the best chance to win?

CHOKE would not even get a bounty in little league

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In a perfect world, you’re right Jeff – about the denying AND having a seat on the NFLPA (and he should step down). But if DB acknowledges he knew of the bounty, clearly the next question would be “Tell us who was involved?” He wouldn’t be able to claim the 5th. You know that amendment that states “I can’t divulge that information Commissioner on the grounds it would obliterate, debilitate, incinerate me.”

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Of course, had Brees just uttered a claim there was no proof, evidence, or truth to the sordid and ugly Saints coaching practices, then he’d been laughed off the stage and publicly called a liar. So, he think he can put lipstick on the pig by using the term “meaningful.”

The people he’s trying to insult now are the fans of the NFL — Brees thinks so little of our intelligence that he thinks such efforts will work!

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Drew Brees leads the offense, Schultz. Only the defense has been implicated. It’s April, can’t you come up with something other than football?

Have an original idea, please. Oh, your a sports “journalist” aren’t you? Sorry.

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What a load. Like the Saints are the only team….its FOOTBALL. S^&T HAPPENS. Who cares

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he doesn’t look like a fool. he looks like a man of honor and loyalty to his teammates, players he has been through the woods with a time or two. but i guess the media wants their pound of flesh too since the NFL has already has there’s. It is one thing to speak up during the investigation, it’s another to keep running your mouth after the fact and conduct interviews and write tell-alls. that makes you a little boy, IMHO. only females keep clucking like chickens (i am not a misogynist, so don’t start.) BTW, I am a born and bred Falcons fan and loved nothing but the destruction of the NO Saints, but I must keep it real.

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How the heck do people like you get jobs? You’re a total idiot! This has to be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read!

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10 of 12, you are not from New Orleans, so please stop posing! I’m from New Orleans and I’m still a fan and will always be. Of course I’m not approving what they did, but they did it, was punished for it, so now let’s move on and play ball….it’s over. There are plenty of football players on other teams who would love to have fans like ours…including Atlanta. They jump off of the bandwagon every time adversity hit the team, wonder why you still see a lot of Michael Vick jerseys all over Atlanta….they can’t even get behind the quarterback they have now, because their still wishing they had MV7.

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Daisy- You should not take offense with people who are able to gain meaningful employment. I hear there is work in New Orleans in your field of expertise, though I do believe they expect you to supply your own mop and bucket. Good Luck!

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Daisy or David-Whatever your parents named you when you born. I don’t have to prove to a piece of trash like you where I’m from. Katrina was a tragedy but some of the trash in the city did need to be washed away. You have actually helped to prove my point. Next time go lay down by the levee.

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HAHA, Shultz you’re the FOOL. To all you Failcon fans, just be prepared for two more losses at the hands of the Saints, and be prepared for your noodle armed quarterback to choke yet again.

OK now that I have the little bit of biased fan speech out of me… Shultz, you have a point, but what has been more upsetting has been this demand by Brees to be the highest paid QB. Dude should take teh 18 mil a year and play ball.

As a Saints fan I am obligated to say this although I appreciate the rivalry and passion between both out fan groups… FALCONS SUCK. lol. Hope you guys have a good season and everyone stays healthy.

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V Chip- Born and raised. In Shreveport right now! I don’t give a $%!+ what you believe so save it.

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He has gone from cool to stone cold stupid.

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Sit behind your little desk and make your stupid comments about Drew Brees. So you make up a dumb story about an upstanding individual. You are the fool. ACJ pays you to write NOTHING! Prove that Brees knew about it, prove that Brees was involved then you have a story all you are writing is your opinion and you know what they say about opinions everyone has one.

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How exactly is Brees refusing to “acknowledge the New Orleans Saints had any bounty system” just because he said that the NFL has yet to provide him with the evidence allegedly held by the NFL? All of the “evidence” you listed above is contained in the NFL report itself or the testimony of an ostracized coach, not the documentation that the NFL has said it has but refuses to make available. If anything, Brees’ position is consistent (and not in conflict) with that of a player representative; how on earth could he be expected to represent the players effectively if he is not allowed to review the documents that allegedly evidence their guilt? If this situation were reversed and he immediately rushed to judgment against the players solely on the basis of an NFL report without reviewing the background materials on which that report were based, you would likely be ranting for him to be ousted as an ineffective representative, and justifiably so. Any attorney who did what you are asking Brees to do in terms of simply accepting the claims of the prosecution without independently reviewing the evidence on behalf of his client would be disbarred. If you have nothing better to write than this, then please refrain from writing anything at all. This article did nothing to convince me that Drew Brees is a fool, sir; it only served to prove that YOU are.

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Drew Brees is a complete fool because he is stupid enough to believe that he’s denial of the existence of proof will somehow mitigate the offense. Roger Goodell has provided proof to the owner of Drew Brees (Benson) and his boss Sean Payton. If Drew Brees does not have proof who cares since he does not have to be provided with anything but a contract to throw footballs. He needs to understand his place in all of this and sit down somewhere and prepare for getting knocked down during the season. LOL Last week Brees said Sean Payton had not provided him with an explanation of what happened now Roger Goodell owes him one. What an idiot! No one owes you anything but a contract to play, get that done and show up to lead your team and let these matters be handled by those in a position to do so.

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This is crap, Yes Brees and the PA is looking for evidence for bounty with the saints. Just because Greg Williams admitted to doing it does that make it that everyone is doing? NOT. Okay every Falcon fan is a Drug user. I said it so I guess there will be a lot of free jobs in Atlanta next week right. Bret Farve, Warner, Ya’ll player WR White said they didnt feel bountied. So many retired players have admitted to this. Falcon fans Really Drew Brees Classless because ya’ll team couldn’t stop a TD from happening. Sit Down. I bet a whole year of pay that Drew want go to a Playoff Game and don’t score a point. Don’t do to others that you don’t want done to you. I have witness Falcons running up the score. We will take this fall because we are strong. Get facts, which nobody has, you can believe eveything Goodell says, he knew 3 years ago but open his mouth now. So why believe someone who is covering his on.

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Some are you buffoons just don’t get it. LMAO!!! The verdict is already in. The judge has spoken. Wow some of you so-called Saints fans really don’t do the city of New Orleans any favors at all by showing up to a blog site and not being able to communicate on a level with humans. I feel like I need a translator for some of this . LMAO!!!

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Ken Stallings
April 17th, 2012
1:31 pm

Of course, had Brees just uttered a claim there was no proof, evidence, or truth to the sordid and ugly Saints coaching practices, then he’d been laughed off the stage and publicly called a liar. So, he think he can put lipstick on the pig by using the term “meaningful.”

The people he’s trying to insult now are the fans of the NFL — Brees thinks so little of our intelligence that he thinks such efforts will work!
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Sadly, his efforts DO work–on the Saints fans.

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While I think the Saint’s bounty scheme was terrible, I do not believe that Brees was denying the existence of the program. I read the article that contains the quote at NFL.com, and Brees was specifically asked if the bounty program was discussed at yesterday’s meeting and he answered accordingly. He was not denying the scandal – he was just commenting on what little was discussed at that meeting yesterday. The president of NFLPA confirmed that yesterday’s meeting was not meant to be about the bounty scandal but that it was touched on a bit. If Brees was asked directly if he believed that the bounty scandal happened and he denied it, then he does look like a fool. But that is not what happened yesterday, and I feel it is unfair to suggest that Brees denied the existence of the bounty scheme.

That being said, he should recuse himself from any voting or role in deciding what happens to the Saints players involved.

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Hey Jason all of them that would be on welfare attended college and hopefully went to classes, so they can learn how to spell Obama, and not degrade the office of President, Did you mispell President Reagan’s name, Oh thats right you cant spell. Drew Brees is following the true spirit of denial in America, that people all over the country attend too. We should hope that this system is over and pray that no one else faces injury like that.

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Just as the Failclowns team wants the notariety of the Saints and the winning orginization they have , there seems to be a Failclown fan out there who wants to me by posting under my name . Just as your team is a bunch of schmucks , so are you and just as your team has no imagination , niether do you . Try to put your APS brain to some use and come up with your own name . What a pitiful and sad life you have wanting to be someone other than yourself . Don’t you think Jeff has your e-mail and knows it’s not me making remarks at him? Obviously you don’t which further cements my point in calling you a schmuck.

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Schultz is way off base. This is another case of a punk writer who’s never played the game trying to impose his “sports knowledge” on someone. The truth is, this stuff goes on everywhere. Williams has done it at every team he’s coached. And the truth is, the bounty was never about maliciously going out there and trying to injure an opposing player. This was a motivational tool for this defense and a way for the coaches to identify certain individuals they wanted to focus on. It goes on at every level of football….even Pee Wee. If a kids hits an opposing player – LEGALLY – and that kid gets hurt or taken out of the game he gets a sticker for his helmet afterwards. Its no different. These are grown men out there ramming into each othe with the force of a car crash 30-40 times a game. Violence is a an embedded into the fabric of this sport. It lies at the very core of numerous positions on the field, including the offensive line. To say you are shocked about any of this is to say that you are full of bull or a niave, Madden game playing, fantasy football, jock sniffer who wouldnt know a safety blitz from a safety pin. That goes for you to Schultz.

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the saints did wrong and they have been punished for it. But don’t call the city names and say cruel things about all things new orleans. if this would have happened to your team you would try to defend them. some of the things being said about drew are just dirty. he is in a bad position. unless anyone really knows him can you say what kind of person he really is?
it is just strange saints were the only ones caught when practically everyone says there are bounty systems all over nfl. another strange thing why did tape come out very day of saint’s appeals?

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Just a bunch of Saints hating Falcon fans on this board. Well I got news for you, Saints sweep Atlanta this year again without Payton and the defensive players that will get suspended. The Falcons are just that bad.

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Hey Jeff, when the union exposes the snitch as a disgruntled former employee who likely forged a majority of the documents he turned into the league, and that punishments were dished out based on said documents, are you and the rest of the uninformed sports journalists of the world going to apologize for not doing your job? and by job, i mean doing some kind of reporting that isn’t cut and paste from ESPN dot com and/or shock jock dribble pieces? thx bud!

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Schultz you are naive or dumb or more likely both. He can not admit in public any knowledge because of law suits. Especially because of his connection to the NFLPA. From when I was a 10 year old football player through high school, we were taught to “take out” opposing players, through getting in their head to make misstakes or physically hurting them so they can play well or at all. The idea that every team is not doing this in some way is naive

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PEOPLE,

he wants the league to produce evidence because most of it was handed to them by former defensive quality control coach Mike Cerullo. Cerullo lost his job and blames Loomis/Payton for sabotaging his chances at getting more work in the league. the kicker? he was a defensive coach for the saints in 2009, one of the years in question. Not only is he a guilty party, but he’s also a former employee w/ a wild conspiracy and a vendetta. most of the evidence he turned over probably has forgery written all over it. Brees wants the league to hand over this information for the obvious reasons stated above.

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With all the players names in the bounty, I see Matt Ryan wasn’t included. They probably collected the bounty money for those games and donated it to charity. Since the Brees/Payton era, we have owned you sorry Falcons. We have the better team, better team, and better fans. That’s evident in Curtis Lofton (your leading tackler) saying he wanted to play for a winner and a passionate fan base. That, in itself, says a lot about your team and the fans. The Saints defense is so scared of that Atlanta offense after that 2 point offensive explosion in the playoffs this past season (Sarcastic cough). We own you and no one can deny that. Now excuse me, I have a meeting to attend. I’ll have to put my phone on “Atlanta Falcon” mode…….NO RING.

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I’m just glad our team is not involved in this and as far as to Bree’s being a leader he should step down if nothing else he’s not fair so how could he judge another team when he can’t judge his own fairly. For that reason he should step down and get pass this but not without Bree’s doing the right thing. STEP DOWN.

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You can’t seem to discern fact from fiction. Schultz seems to pick certain parts of Drew Brees’ statement in order to have a story. Drew Brees isn’t denying that a bounty system was instituted by GW. He is merely stating there is not evidence that the PLAYERS acted on it. By the way; the 49ers game that the GW audio came from….Saints had no penalties the entire game.

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i think Jeff is foolish for believing that Drew and the rest of the Saints have a bounty system in place. sure everyone heard of the recordings of Greg W hyping his team to play and to take someone out of the game, but if anyone really watched the games against the 49ers last year, there are no evidence of the players targeting a specific player and a particular body part of anyone. the reason i pointed out this game is because this audio was made right before the 49ers playoff game. so sad that many journalist will say or do anything with pure speculation for the sake of money and promotion… now let me here all of you thrash me for this…lol

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Wonder why Mattie Ice not on list? HMMMM

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He wont look like a fool when he plays the Falcons twice this upcoming season. Relax peps, it’s April. Come this fall it will be all about Football. What will it say when the Saints, without their Head Coach, come into North Georgia and beat the Falcons once again? What will be the excuse when the Saints claim the NFC South? Think about it and we will talk about the results the Monday or Tuesday after the game. Utnil next time, peace…….:-)

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Drew Brees is The best qb in the Nfl,HANDS DOWN.To all the “haters”You just show your ignorance, as for Atlanta ..Ha Ha, If I were you, I’d hate us to.

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The sAints
need to pull out the paper grocery bags again.

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Brees has never denied that there was a pay for performance program. He is looking for proof that there was ever a program that was directed at intentionally injuring players. Many current and ex NFL players have admitted that the Greg Williams speech was standard fare in locker rooms, aimed at motivating players, not injuring opponants. What he is getting at is if a player has had a concussion or an ACL tear or a sprain or any injury, is that player fully recovered, or will he not be at full capacity after a few hard hits. Would a boxer not try to knock the stuffing out of his foe? The next thing we know, the commissioner will have the players’ moms standing on the sidelines with washrags and band-aids. The Saints were nothing more than scapegoats in the commissioner’s quest to turn the NFL into a Powder Puff league.

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You do realize this is the unions stance, and not just Drew Brees dont you ? It is the NFLPA itself who has taken the stance that the NFL has not provided it evidence that a pay for injury system existed in New Orleans. Dont let your hatred for the Saints confuse the facts. Goodell himself asked the NFLPA to be involved in helping come up with a punishment for the players involved assuming they would just take his word on the evidence. I have 100% confidence in the NFLPA being neutral in this situation as it involves players on both sides of the bounty gate situation, those allegedly targeted, and those who did the alleged targeting. If they say they have not received evidence that proves this went on, I believe them 100%, and it really brings a lot of questions on the whole situation.

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Arthur Blank has a bounty program. Yall think that Bobby Latrino dropped that bike because the wind (or that girl) blew him off, or the sun blinded him? THAT AINT TRUE! It was one of Arthur’s attack deers. They were stalking him for years and finally caught up to him. He keeps them in a stable near Flowery Brunch and Dirk Kutter is training them now. Go back and look at what happened to Ron Coleman, Vick and Jimmy Williams. If the Falcons end up on Hard Knocks I am going to contact the producers and tell the world the truth about this.

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hahahahahahah this article is pathetic. Hey Jeff, how bout you write on how pathetic the Failcons are. They will never amount to anything. Try to stack their team and still can’t win a playoff game. Then the next offseason they get nobody. Just face it, your team is worthless.

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I am losing respect for Drew Brees!! Why doesn’t he come clean?

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Is there any call for an investigation into NFL officiating? How did the Saints get away with these vicious hits with so few penalities. I fully support the sanctions against the Saints, but if the NFL wants to clean the slate look at their own employees too!

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Brees says he did not know yet he was in meetings and hotels and on buses and planes with these guys. To think Vilma and others did not kid around about this out loud in a team setting is a farce. Anyone who played team sports knwos the first group you want say it to afer you knock out someone like Favre is your teammates and even more to your star quaterback on an offense focused team. Roddy White will tell you when he gets a new shirt so who thinks these guys dont talk about everything? Also, does Brees have earplugs in when Williams and Payton are yellling it in the locker room?

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Atlanta, Georgia …… a city and a fan base still in denial of the bitter reality that they SUCK ; based on that incredible 2 point performance by the Falcons in the playoffs, coupled with the Georgia Bulldogs getting SPANKED in the Sec Championship game in their OWN stadium ; I would imagine you shouldn’t be saying ANYTHING to the fans of New Orleans or Louisiana —— at least until you stop CHOKING when it matters the most !!!!!

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Trololololol, Shultz. You write an article talking about why Brees should be embarrassed, yet aren’t you the guy who penned a story about the Falcons being Super Bowl contenders after they trounced the Colts last year? We all know how that turned out…

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and you Mr. Schultz are a complete douche bag, along with all you POS dirty bird fans. Ya’ll just jealous with your no tallent havin, choke artist team! If you wanna call them boys a team!

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All male Saints fans meet at my house. I’m due for a good throat stretching session. I have already drained Nate Nolan of all his man strength so who is next. Feed me Saints fans feed me. I’m so glad we Saints fans can have a blog site to meet up in for our special man on man activities. Ah yes love is being covered in Saints man sauce and fleur de lys. WhoGay???!!!

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you silly little dirty bird poop droppings are so pathetic that you cant read between the lines.

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Jeff, celebrate all y’all want. The truth is Roger Goodell has too much power and he’s rolling in it like a pig in the mud! Remember that most owners did not vote for him, and it took five voting rounds to finally elect this a$$hole.

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I think Drew is just standing up for what is most probably the truth. I’m not even a Saints fan but I just dont believe this incident is a one team thing. No doubt there was a “pay for performance” progam within the defense but I honestly think Gregg Williams was a rogue coach telling players to hurt other players. I’ve listented to that audio tape several times and I never heard anyone else in the room make comments or agree with him when he mentioned certain players or injuries. The NFLPA even states they have reviewed game tape and see no deliberate video that shows any players attempting to intentionally hurt another player. I think the NFL is using the Saints as a scapegoat to set the tone throughout the league to avoid future lawsuits. They need something documented to say they acted on issues like this to cover their a$$.

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To even make a suggestion that the NFL suspends a GM and a head coach for season to “set the tone” is absolutely ridiculous. The NFL is a business first. There is no way in a million years they would expose themselves to that type of liabilty.

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You are misinterpreting what he said. He is saying there were no meaningful facts presented in regards to “players.” These are meetings to discuss player sanctions and there has been no specific evidence in regards to specific players.

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Nothing to read here. Drew is just the type of guy you want on your team. Defending them till the bitter end. Make all of the accusations you like….but if Matt Ryan squealed about something that put the team in more hot water…you would crucify him. Your sure wouldn’t pat him on the back and say now there’s a great team leader. Hypocrites, enjoy your fun with the Saints Bountygate issues…….it won’t score you any more points in a playoff game!!!

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One one hand Brees and the rest of you Saints fans say it happens on every team. On the other hand, he had no knowledge. So he knows it happens in Detroit, but not his own locker room?

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scfalcon @ 9:36……saint fans will not understand that logic……you just jealous and a hater they will say…..haha

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2-10 against the Saints in the last 12 games, hahahaha. You guys are all jealous that your team sucks big time, hahahahaha.

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Very surprising that a guy like Brees would not face the music.

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WhoGay4eva- You are a lame retard. I hope some of your Saints fans are girls because it’s just not healthy for men to hang off a man’s sack like some of you do Brees. Let the man walk for pete sake.

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The NFL has come down with the Death Penalty for the Saints.

To date, no coach in the history of the league has been suspended for even a single game. Sean Payton gets 1 year. A year!

Perfect.

I warned everyone about Goodell, a long, long time ago. So my conscience is clean.

This guy is not just not that smart, his ego is apparently the size of Montana.

It’s all about HIM, and what HE has done to improve player safety, and about how HE was “lied” to, and HIM, HIM, HIM!

I don’t know if Sean Payton and the Saints “lied” to the commish during this “investigation.” The league just implies that they did. The 10,000 page “investigation” and report on this matter, is not yet downloadable via PDF for us to make our own conclusions. And it never will.

So if YOU just want to take this league’s word on it, then go ahead.

Most writers, columnists and talking heads who cover the NFL, have done just that, applauding the penalty as “harsh” but “right.”

It’s like they are sitting with their legs crossed on the floor watching and clapping for the NFL’s little puppet show. The real story, is that the NFL is running scared – very scared – about these concussion lawsuits. So throwing the Saints under the bus is a cheap price for some litigation insurance.

Which means, I’m just rooting for the lawsuits now.

I hope this league gets it’s ASS handed to it in court, in a little Chinese takeout box.

Of course there’s a reason why many supposedly “independent” media outlets/journalists/pundits/talking heads are just mindlessly applauding the draconian penalties. It doesn’t pay to be against this league, and this commissioner, in any way…… ANY….

Not that the NFL could get a columnist fired, but if you cover the NFL, who wants doors closing and calls going un-returned just because you have staked out a hard position that makes the NFL look bad?

Luckily, a few smart people out there aren’t just buying Goodell’s punishment hook, line, and sinker.

Randy Galloway of the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram cuts to the chase….

When Goodell was finally finished, the New Orleans Saints were placed in a commissioner-induced coma for the 2012 season, and the beating was so severe recovery after even one season is certainly not guaranteed, or even expected.

Oohs and aahs were heard from a shocked yet pleased national media, and this was followed by appreciative standing O’s in print.

That’ll teach ‘em. That’ll also send the message that the NFL is no place for organized violence if it comes in the form of “bounty” incentives. Goodell stopped that stuff, huh?

The Saints, as an organization, received the toughest overall penalty in the history of the league, and the toughest in any sport since the death penalty ruling against SMU.

We can, of course, use that SMU thing as a guideline, because 25 years later, the death penalty has never been used again by the NCAA, which certainly indicates to me that any form of cheating in college football ended immediately when the ruling came down in 1987.

At least I can’t recall any cheating scandals in college football, can you?

Based on Goodell’s explanation, he said he was lied to by the Saints when the “bounty” investigation first began, and that his original order to end the bounties was ignored for two years.For that — the lying, and ignoring orders — Goodell obviously blamed Payton more than anyone else in the Saints’ organization.

Again, we’ve only heard Goodell’s side of the “lying” story, and because he’s the NFL version of judge, jury and also the appellate court (appeals are accepted by the NFL, but Goodell hears the appeal of his own rulings) is it wise for anyone found guilty to speak up in protest?

REACT: Thank you, Randy. THANK YOU. That’s EXACTLY it. For numbnuts who say “well, Payton hasn’t disputed any of this….” just think about it. IT DOES YOU NO GOOD! Not only do you have to re-try your case in front of the same guy who just bashed your head in, it makes you look feeble and dishonest trying to explain just YOUR side of the story, when the NFL is withholding some 10,000 pages of information that might actually make your side of the dispute look a whole lot better.

And of course, the worst, most nauseating part of the whole story, is the “player safety” issue. My sweet ass it is. Dave M. in Ohio properly dissects that one…..

This Sean Peyton thing cracks me up. I’m actually fine with the severity of the penalties.

What do I care?

But it’s funny how the “narrative” quickly becomes distorted. For every Jaworski or Platscke who says…”I applaud the move..it’s all about player safety” I just want to rip my hair out.

No.It.Isn’t.
If you were really concerned about player safety you’d drop that 18 game nonsense and mandate the newer/safer helmets for all players. You’d mandate mouthguards (the real kind proven to reduce concussions) and you’d fit the helmets properly so they can’t be removed like baseball caps. I know I sound like I’m channeling Easterbrook here and that troubles even me. But that’s the truth. Safest equipment available and less overall contact by way of fewer games.

That’s step #1.

Now onto his real motives and the illogic of the ESPN argument…Follow me on my logic train for a moment. The NFL new about this Saints stuff at least a couple years back. Their investigation fizzled without corroboration and all parties were warned to knock it off. Am I right? Peyton, Loomis, Benson? All warned to stop this a couple of years ago. But they were warned privately so as not to give the league a black eye on the issue. If you care about player safety then you do something at THAT point in time. Not now.

Now?

These penalties are as much, if not more, about having lied to the league, ignored the league, embarrassed the league. Ignoring the issue…failing to punish it THEN automatically negates the player safety cover for this. This is the parental equivalent of overlooking shoplifting of your tween and then sentencing them to 15 years in the pen when you find them still doing it years later.

And again if this is all for PR?, fine. Who cares? But just say so then is my take. You want perjury type penalties in place? Fine? Put in place automatic year-long suspension “lying to commissioner during investigation” penalties if you want to. What I can’t stand is the lack of consistency and feeling that the NFL deals with each new scandal from the seat of their pants. And it all comes back to Playmakers. They can’t acknowledge the craziness that happens on their watch, let alone PLAN for the inevitable consequences.

The NFL needs a starting point of penalties (with a range), a fairer appeals process, and to get their arms around what might happen next. How can these guys appear to get caught flat footed by every little thing?

REACT: Great points here about how the NFL’s FIRST instincts, were to keep the warnings ultra-PRIVATE, so as to avoid embarrassment. In other words, player safety was the LAST thing on their mind. Keeping a shiny gloss to the image of the mighty “Shield” was, however, the FIRST thing on their mind.

Also, the equipment issue is a huge one. The league’s crackdown on “illegal” hits is admirable – in theory – but it’s just one piece of the puzzle. And it’s the piece that costs the league the LEAST amount of money. In fact, it MAKES them money! Fine the players! There, that was easy! Not pushing for 18 games would COST money. Playing just two pre-season games would COST money. Purchasing and mandating new high-tech helmets would COST money. The league has very little interest in any of this.

Player safety. Pffftt. Get outta here with that.

The “net-net” of all of this, is that the league as we once knew it, is gone for good. It was once a legitimate sports league, operated by a central authority that knew the limits of its legal and ethical boundaries. There were rules and they were known and agreed upon. The Commissioner’s power was not as over-arching and limitless as it now, obviously is.

The league existed to make money before, of course, but now it’s lust for more and more profit, and less risk at any cost for its member teams is beyond insatiable.

The league is also in the greatest peril for lanscape re-shaping legal verdicts on multiple fronts that it has been for many years. Let me summarize them.

Player Lawsuits vs. NFL on concussions (actual and numerous)

Cowboys/Redskins Lawsuit on Salary Cap Penalty (possible)

Collusion Lawsuit by NFLPA (possible)

Blacklisting Lawsuit by Gregg Williams (possible)

And these are just a few of the legal storms currently on the extended radar. What we still can’t account for, is the “unknown unknowns” as they say in military terms.

In other words: “The shit we haven’t even seen coming yet.”

I will still watch NFL football, because the GAME is awesome. Fast, hard hitting, unpredictable. It’s a spectacle. And the athletes are just freaks.

But I am not going to worship the league like I once did. I won’t likely buy the NFL Sunday Ticket again either. I don’t need to burn an entire afternoon on Sunday when it’s 75 and sunny in September sitting in my mancave watching three TVs.

A good game at 4 p.m., plus highlights of the other games and then the Sunday nighter. One more for good measure on Monday. That, along with my local “free” NFL team on over-the-air TV is quite alot.

Plus, I hear there is something out there callled… “a highlight package.”

Hmmm. Do tell. Sound interesting.

Have fun with all of this stuff Roger. Looks like you and lawyers are going to be busy.

So just because my boss tells me to do something and I listen to him but I don’t act on it. I just go out and do my job, make legal hits, what are you saying I did wrong? If I received money for a big hit, how is that any different from other players saying they passed money around the locker room?

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Cathy………Do you think the union wants a safe environment for their members? If so, what are their recommendations? So this is not an issue at all?

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Chris………Did the saints violate the rules? Were they warned to stop? Did they stop? Did they lie about it? Did they confess to it?

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Your only hope to beat the SB Champion Saints was for something like this to happen…sad thing is, hope is not a strategy so you still have no chance….your organization is pathetic….even with the faux bounty scandal, Saints are still a great team and feared and will win the SB this year….truth hurts, doesn’t it rednecks and ghetto dwellers….stay classy…..

P.s. Lofton sends his regards and looks forward to finally being with a WINNING team…he is now a WHO DAT…lmao….loosah Falclowns…..rise up….FALL DOWN!

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A saint fan telling others to stay classy…….? …..not that is funny!

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Mr. Redcoat if you are a fan of the game, you know that players are loyal to their coach, 100%. Maybe the Falcon’s don’t have that kind of loyalty, I can’t tell. I know over here, the players, coaches, owner, fans, the whole State of Louisiana defends our coach and our team.

I am just sick of every other team and half assed sports writer trying to demonize my team. Everyone does it; we were just unlucky enough to have a coach who Goodell despised. Can’t help the fact that Payton is 20 times the man, Go-To-Hell is. He couldn’t take it and decided to hang us out to dry for something that happens LEAGUE WIDE!

Since you posted nicely, I won’t rip you, but if we are being absolutely honest, the Falcons are not even in the same class as the Saints. We have been rivals since I was a little girl in the 80’s and that’s the game I look forward to the most every season. You guys have the players to get there, but something is missing to bring it home. I am not impressed with Matt Ryan at all, never have been.

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Ms. Chick……thanks for not ripping me….hahaha…..but 100% loyal in the case of rule breaking when someone could have his livelihood taken away is not seen as admirable. Payton shouldn’t have lied about it and if that is how you measure someone, we do have a very different outlook of things.

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A) He knew. If you think he didn’t. You navie.
B) Who cares ? This article was a waste of time.

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Kim…..It doesn’t matter if anybody else believes that other teams had bounty programs, it’s still wrong and a rule violation. The worst part was the lying. There is simply no excuse for it. Yes, thankfully the “cart offs” didn’t happen but the evidence indicates some players received pay outs, that means some of the targets were reached. I guess we will have more on that later.

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@DM….I am 100% behind you. Other teams where doing it. And no it is not right, but it is what it is. I am really tired of hearing about it. Punish the rest of the Saints players and move on! But, it would only be right if the other teams where outed as well. We know that will not happen.

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DM/Kim……..I’m sure any other team found running what the saints were will be dealt with even more severely now……should have stopped when warned …….right? DM, can’t prove a negative, so i guess you will never be satisfied, just bitter. Blame the ones who lied!

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Most of you idiots don’t know anything about what went on in New Orleans. You guys r just haters!
Because the Saints have a real chance to win the Superbowl in their own back yard. Saints are SCAPEGOATS for the NFL. Green Bay had the same thing going on in 2007, so why did he not do a thing to them, since he is so concerned about the players health. Why not release all the documents you have. I have read that most of the so called evidence was made up. So all you haters there is a lot of stuff out there. Keep on with the hate we as Saints fans can’t wait for this season.
Most of this guys writing this stuff hate the Saints too! WHO DAT!

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Mr. Schultz,
When Mr. Brees commented that the NFL had not provided any “meaningful evidence”, he was referring to a specific meeting which he attended as a representative of NFLPA. He was not speaking as the quarterback of the Saints, nor was he expressing an opinion of his personal beliefs regarding the situation. This is the difference between professional comportment in the execution of a duty, and personal interest being allowed to diminish such professionalism. After reading your slanted commentary, I think you should aspire to the excellent example made by Mr. Brees.
Also, men who wear rectangular eyeglasses should not cast stones about looking like a fool.

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You people are very stupid and not very intelligent talking all of this crap about drew Brees being classes! absurd !! So classless is running up the score if that is the case then there is a lot of classless people out there!!! Offense scores points. Defense is suppose to stop them right … Yes … Right !!! I bet if it was your teams qb you wouldn’t talk crap about him right!!! Get a life and educate youselves!!! Please !!!

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I think this falcon fan says it all: http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=6Pqs5Y_QDsE. Who dat.

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Ca-Ching….. the “hater” thing is old and juvenile and totally predictable when there is nothing you can defend
jthiebaud……that’s laughable, a very convenient excuse, spoken like a true politician and we know how politicians are….haha
Kim…….the cry from saint land has already been heard from past losses so NO set the standard on whining as you continually provide proof on this blog……Thank you
Saintsation……..another juvenile remark, post says it all
Dreggsta……..I didn’t click your link, but see you provided a clue how much you care by even posting a comment here…….very laughable, do you argue with yourself much I wonder?

In conclusion…..all your posts, and especially coming to this site to do it, still doesn’t change what the saints have done and as I already posted, there will now ALWAYS be that air of cheating and lying with your organization…….there is nothing you can do about that.

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I’m out for now, but I will be back at the end of the season to say I TOLD YOU SO! Here is my prediction Saints/Patriots Super Bowl XlVll. Yes, that’s what I said! Drew Brees is going to get his contract, we have a new Defensive Coordinator(who has alot of experience under his belt) and the Saint’s have signed some good defensive free agents. Plus, we still have the draft. Mostly they are going to be hungry to show everyone and including GODell they can’t be stopped!!!! See ya in New Orleans 2013!

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LOL at all of the new orleans aint fans arguing with each other on page 2, how about YOU all do us a favor and get off our blog site and get out of our city….. Been to new orleans a couple of times, it was okay, but if you take away the french quarter… What do you have? NOTHING!!!!!

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@ redcoat: like i care if you clicked the link. is your response worth one of mine? for fun yes but unlike you i don’t take things personal. no one cares if you don’t change your mind. you’ll always be a hater & you’ll always be lame. just like all your comments. you need to be corrected factually tho. the saints “will now ALWAYS be that air of cheating and lying with your organization” (your quote). it will have that air to you & some others but not to everyone. especially when other players have said bounties have existed elsewhere, prolly even your beloved team too. do try to stop being a douche, if you can.

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yeh the saints won the SB by cheating. lmao. that interception tracy porter put on p. manning was a lethal hit to the colts chances of making a comeback. he def shoulda got a performance bonus for that play. indeed he did get paid bc he can tout that on his resume.

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another take on this subject: http://saintswin.blogspot.com/2012/04/are-saints-being-railroaded.html

& stop digressing redcoat.

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dregga…..I see you still don’t care by posting….haha, What did i digress from exactly? The saints won a super bowl, falcons sux, everybody was doing it, you a hater, your just jealous,….that kind of stuff you mean?

Micheal……i guess he had enough for the coaches and GM……..3 yrs and warnings and some kind evidence I think and Goodell did it all by himself and made this whole thing up…..you don’t think player’s were involved?

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i don’t care. i just enjoy posting bc i get enjoyment from it. go look up the definition of digress. after that then i’d hope you could gather what i meant. stop being infantile. you intionally mispelling my name is lame. ain’t no one here can talk smack better than me so don’t try to get on my level. as for the dirty birds, i haven’t once bashed them. i like them actually. just like i root for sec teams in college. i root for nfc south teams when it’s one of us in the post season. so again, stop being childish lol. i rem watching matt ryan play for BC. chill out & takethe panties outta your ass. i ain’t worried about my saints. i was a fan when they were the aint’s & i’m a fan now. every team has their issues & this overrated bounty crap is just that, overrated. you wanna jump on a bandwagon that’s you. just know you sound idiotic doing so.

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Dregga…….was my digression from what you were saying or the point of the article? I don’t do the spelling checking thing to well thing either. If i was stepping in your smack talk territory , I’m sorry to have upset you like that. I’m sorry that the article has negative issues toward your team to which you can’t justify in any way. We have some common sentiments as far as regional NFL and college teams go, But I think you need to take your on advice on the chill , panty checking ,bandwagon, and idiot thing.

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^^^ that’s for you red!no, beth isn’t digressing. redcoat is. lmao. the redcoats are coming the redcoats are coming. what a douche. it’s ok redcoat. apology accetpted & deposited. the advice was for you tho. it won’t work for me.

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That’s crazy and really, the whole article is an opinion because instead of saying he thinks the saints had no bounty program, or you could say he was supporting his team, and he had no part in this so there is no reason why you can say this about him. He is a honest quarterback and has earned his way here. Anyway, they’ll still make it to the playoffs.

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BC/who all………..you’re sounding foolish too………what in the article don’t you agree specifically?

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Mr. Bateman…..It is very admirable of Drew Brees to continue to look so foolish on behalf of his team.

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Sounds like another angry Atlanta fan…. zzzzzzzzzzz. Jump on the bandwagon, bash Brees now. Don’t recall any bounties on Matt Ryan…. oh yeah, your O-line LET us take his head off. Stop whining. You will always be second best in the NFC South. Deal with it

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I dont think it really matters, the saints D sucked already. Drew’s gonna be back and that means trouble. Why should he acknowledge the bounties either? The only thing we can prove is Williams wanted them to do those things. I haven’t seen anything saying the players actively participated in it. There is no evidence money exchanged hands…. im just saying

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Great hit piece, Jeff Schultz. You are a scumbag journalist. YOU are what is wrong with this country.

In the tank for Goddell, no doubt. Now, offer up some facts, not just your exalted opinion.

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It’s not Brees’ place to confirm or deny the existence of any bounty program. All of the associated Saints employees have been implicated and/or punished at this point and at no time has Drew Brees’ name has been mentioned as a party to knowlege or existence of a bounty program prior to the NFL’s investigation.

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Eagle 85……punishment has been handed out with evidence, please explain “meaningful”. Is Brees calling a lot of multiple sources……. “unmeaningful”?

BdT……..a coach of your team admits a bounty system existed……Brees, leader of the team, does not acknowledge it existed. Surely he knows players are involved……..why would the coaches even accept what has been dealt to them if no one participated for how many years? Evidence wasn’t “meaningful” against the coaches? Brees should be running for a political office when retired. All of them sound like fools too, don’t you agree?

What’s your take on the conflict of interest?

Unbelievable!

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