Report: Marvin Williams wants out (OK, what’s the joke?)

There haven't been enough moments like this from Marvin Williams. (AP photo)

There haven't been enough moments like this from Marvin Williams. (AP photo)

The Hawks have enough other issues now, with injuries to Al Horford, Jason Collins and Joe Johnson (who couldn’t finish Monday’s loss at Chicago because of a knee injury).

But here’s one more problem — or maybe it’s actually comic relief.

According to ESPN’s Chris Broussard — and I caution all to not treat this with Woodward-and-Bernstein reliability — Hawks forward Marvin Williams wants out. Quoting directly from Broussard’s “True Hoop” blog: “Frustration abounds in Atlanta right now, and sources say Marvin Williams wants out because he wants to play somewhere where he’ll have an increased role offensively. Williams is averaging just 9.6 points per game, his lowest since his rookie season.”

Let’s assume for a minute (or as long as it takes to finish this blog) that this true. Question: Seriously? I know Broussard covers the NBA but this items cries for some context.

This is Williams’ seventh NBA season. He has been a bust. Forget for a moment that the astrophysicist, former general manager Billy Knight, passed up Chris Paul to take Williams. There’s still an expectation that the second pick in the NBA draft will be a solid-to-great player, but Williams hasn’t been close to that.

It’s true that his scoring average of 9.6 points is the lowest of his career. But let’s not suggest that he has been an 18-to-20-scorer in the NBA. His annual averages: 8.5, 13.1, 14.8, 13.9, 10.1, 10.4, 9.6. Career average: 11.6.

Williams has been almost a full-time starter since year two. He has played 458 games. I think we all know by know what he can do.

In 2009, general manager Rick Sund gave Williams, then a free agent, a five-year, $37.5 million contract extension. I’m sure the thought at the time was that, after four years, maybe the small forward would turn all of that athletic ability into something good. But that hasn’t happened. So the Hawks are now stuck with an underwhelming player who makes $7.5 million this season, $8.2875 million next year and a $7.5 million player option in 2013-14.

In other words, Marvin, if you really want out, we hereby give you permission to pick up the phone and find a team that’s interested.

By Jeff Schultz

245 comments Add your comment

dublin mike

February 21st, 2012
9:22 am

Idiocy, thy name is Marvin Williams

Flip89

February 21st, 2012
9:27 am

Well if Joe is out for an extended period of time, Marvin should be getting more PT and will either show us he is not a full bust or he will hopefully increase his Trade Value. Perfect timing if you think about it. He wants more pt and Joe may be out for a few games.

Andrew Lipham

February 21st, 2012
9:28 am

Marvin for Beasley straight up?

Joey

February 21st, 2012
9:29 am

Can he take Joe with him?

buckhead benny

February 21st, 2012
9:29 am

I just wish someone would teach him how to walk without doing the “Williams Waddle” I got news for you if your a general manager and your looking at drafting a kid- 1. They don’t work out (Marvin might have one of the worst bodies in the NBA- 2. They walk like they got a corn cobb up their *** 3. He didn’t start on his college team . 4. You may want to pass on drafting them with the 2nd overall pick.

That should have been an easy decision based on the facts above

Ray

February 21st, 2012
9:30 am

I’m fine with it—let’s go Dwight

PMC

February 21st, 2012
9:31 am

Can I help him pack? The absolute worst #2 draft pick in NBA history.

steve brown

February 21st, 2012
9:33 am

Perfect example of the linacy (sorry couldn’t help myself) of Hawk management, starting a guy for all these years who can’t play at that level thinking perhaps they will create the illusion that he can. Perhaps the worst collection of talent evaluators ever.

PMC

February 21st, 2012
9:33 am

That said, I guess it’s good to see that they are publically frustrated, that means they aren’t quitting.

The bigger problem….. they can’t rebound.

Bill Clinton

February 21st, 2012
9:35 am

Marvin needs to watch his comments. He is right up there with Jon Koncack on the all time Atlanta Hawks MVP list.

Kramer

February 21st, 2012
9:36 am

This team is a train wreck and needs an ownership that gives a damn about winning. Dare to dream I guess.

DJ Frisco

February 21st, 2012
9:37 am

Can we send him and Joe Johnson down to Orlando for Dwight? I’m being serious tho…

hot.trod

February 21st, 2012
9:37 am

To marvin’s credit, he’s been playing with a back injury.. He did what was necessary and got his surgery this summer and has been playing very well. When he’s on a hot streak, Larry Drew will yank him out… I actually like what I’ve seen out of marvin Williams this year.

PMC

February 21st, 2012
9:38 am

He couldn’t even start at North Carolina, came out after a year and our guys thought he was Kevin Durant.

Nice.

Marquis

February 21st, 2012
9:41 am

@ buckhead benny… I call his walk the “booty-doo”… taken from another friend…LOL!

elroy

February 21st, 2012
9:42 am

Marvin should have never been a Hawk. Chris Paul was the obvious choice the Hawks should have made. Thanks Billy Knight, you should never get a G.M. or scouting job ever again.

steve brown

February 21st, 2012
9:44 am

The only Hawks who would want to stay are the fringe players that are playing out their careers cashing checks and aren’t sought after commodities. Any player with a brain knows this team is never going to win a thing especially with Joe Johnson, a decent but soft player, as the highest paid, with Horford out of position, with Josh Smith showing up now and then, with Jeff Teague at the point. Who are they kidding, no one.

As their contracts near expiration none will want to stay and Joe Johnson will be the only one left as he is unmovable at his pay level. The Hawks will fall to the bottom of the pack, the value will decline and with this management group there will be no hope in the draft or free agency as they can’t judge talent. The only hope for fans is the sale of the team.

Leon

February 21st, 2012
9:47 am

Really Marvin? You want out, well we want you out too. Bye. The best thing that can happen to the Hawks is that they miss the playoffs.

Nothing But The Truth

February 21st, 2012
9:50 am

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

No, seriously.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unc Fan

February 21st, 2012
9:51 am

What would we get if we traded Marvin? A rack of basketballs? I would have rather drafted Greg Oden, atleast he is done now.

Mr. Phil

February 21st, 2012
9:52 am

Any deal involving Marvin has to include Joe Johnson. Take that albatross with you.

atlbyrdsfan

February 21st, 2012
9:52 am

I will never understand the then GM’s thinking of drafting him before CP3 or Deron Williams. I have to agree with everyone on here that Marvin should not have been drafted #2 by no team since his college resume was… well short and unfullfilled. What to do with these Hawks?!?!?!?! Give up whomever on the team and get Dwight even if it’s for just the rest of this season and watch how the fans will come out to see something or someone that is spectacular. And go from there…

Even if you think why!? what will it accomplish when he leaves at end of season. So what… we will have cap space to start over from scratch without JJ’s contract over our head and then maybe the league will see the Hawks for what they are, just an organization to fill out the divisions, like Sacremento. How is the start-up OKC Thunder doing in the rankings..? #sarcasm

Foothills

February 21st, 2012
9:52 am

Marvin still here?…with the Hawks?…Hawks still here?…

Mike

February 21st, 2012
9:53 am

Jeff,

Seriously? You are quoting Broussard and his “sources”?

http://aptheblank.com/broussards-sources-say/

Lea

February 21st, 2012
9:53 am

I’ll help him pack his bags.

Double Zero Eight

February 21st, 2012
9:53 am

Send Marvin, to the Bobcats. Maybe
some “good ole home cookin” will
re-energize him. He has been a bust
in Atlanta.

Mike

February 21st, 2012
9:54 am

Jeff,

Seriously? You are quoting Broussard and his sources?

Heisenberg

February 21st, 2012
9:54 am

Marvin & a couple other pieces for Pau Gasol??? I also dream of winning the lottery.

Nothing But The Truth

February 21st, 2012
9:54 am

Blow it up. Josh, Marvin, Joe, T-Mac, everybody must go.

In the meantime, all this off-court whining should be entertaining.

Mr. Phil

February 21st, 2012
9:55 am

Ok. Here’s the plan. Package Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, and Marvin Williams for a superstar (anybody really) and a fringe player, deliberately miss the playoffs, and hope to land another star in the draft. Two new stars and Jeff Teague and we should be good to go.

Mike

February 21st, 2012
9:55 am

Http://aptheblank.com/broussards-sources-say/

Chris Broussard

February 21st, 2012
9:58 am

Did I just read this correctly, Jeff Schultz, an AJC sportswriter just cautioned readers on the issue of journalistic credibility? (OK, Jeff, what’s the joke?)

iceBIRDcold12

February 21st, 2012
9:59 am

Open the door and put out the slide. Be sure to put grease on that for maximum velocity.

Steve

February 21st, 2012
10:01 am

Trade him for A dozen new spalding Bballs that is all he’s worth what a bust!!

ZACK

February 21st, 2012
10:03 am

CONTRACT THE HAWKS……………ASAP!

nate from detroit

February 21st, 2012
10:05 am

If the present day Hawks are not the most mismanaged and boring team in the history of the NBA, then someone please tell me who is. I used to be a huge NBA fan when the game was a fast paced, athletic game that placed a premium on athleticism and basketball ability( i.e. Showtime Lakers in the 80’s ). I even enjoyed watching the Mavs run throught the playoffs last year. I watched the Thunder and the Nuggets game the other night and enjoyed watching Westbrook and Durant work together. I’ve tried to watch the Hawks and they play the most boring and uninspiring basketball I have seen in the league. I don’t understand the complexities of the salary cap, but I would be more than happy to see them cut the dead wood out( J Johnson, M Williams to name a few) and start over.

SH

February 21st, 2012
10:08 am

What is his shots per game average this year compared to past years. If it’s about the same, and he’s complaining about his role, then he’s an idiot. All I can remember him by is weak defense and clank after clank.

Boom Dizzle

February 21st, 2012
10:09 am

He’s got to be joking….he wants out? At least now the feelings are mutual b/c we’ve wanted you out Marvin for a long time now! But wait you can’t trade one of the “core” pieces??? SMDH

nate from detroit

February 21st, 2012
10:10 am

Maybe we could get Jackie Moon from the movie Semi-Pro to come in a be GM. He couldn’t screw the Hawks up any worse than they are now and at least we could have the free corn dog promotion.

Count von Count

February 21st, 2012
10:13 am

Tuesday – anyone??

NUNNA

February 21st, 2012
10:16 am

Hot.Rod,
I’ve been saying that as well..
LD will yank him when he is getting it going to put in Tracy McBaby..
Marvin showed what he could do when joe went out a few years ago.
Averaging over 20ppg,getting to the free throw line,and he is an all around player..

But i tell u this,if it is true and he goes,then look for others to jump ship..
Gotta go back to work..
Peace

realsquawk

February 21st, 2012
10:16 am

I actually agree with Marvin. He is the second most sound offensive piece we have outside of Joe Johnson, but he is the at least the fourth option on any given offensive set. When giving moments to carry the offensive load he has stepped up to the plate and more importantly shown the ability to get to the stripe more than anyone on this team. I’d much rather have Marvin than a lot of other players on this team, but of course he was such a huge bust that we can’t see past that to recognize how far he has come. Including being one of the few Hawks players to actually improve part of his game in the offseason.

Big Crimson 75

February 21st, 2012
10:18 am

Call Billy Knight — He’ll take him!

NekiEcko

February 21st, 2012
10:20 am

Well, alot of people will like to pack his bags for him and he can go on his little way. I am in that boat, this team needs a face-lift and they need it now or in the playoffs, they will have to face against 76ers and we know what a good job they did against those guys.

Section 303

February 21st, 2012
10:20 am

Wow….I guess no one can argue that this group has not been together for too long.

If this is true, than Marvin is one of the dumbest players to ever set foot on an NBA court. I know he is a bust compared to Paul or Darren Williams, but I have never disliked Marvin. This would make me change my mind on that.

There really was a death in his family, right? That was not a cover because Marvin is mad?

A.S.

February 21st, 2012
10:23 am

Finally! I’m glad Marvin is asking to be traded because there was no way the Hawks would deal him. Jeff, you’re right he has been a bust! Get rid of Marvin and Hinrich, possibly Teague in efforts to acquire a true PG.

Cal Bowdlers 7th foul

February 21st, 2012
10:24 am

He’s a top 5 all time bust, and he looks like a supporting character from the Fat Albert cartoons, but he’s actually right. For him to get more scoring opportunities his team needs to get more ball movement, which is not going to happen as constructed.

Heisenberg

February 21st, 2012
10:25 am

I do not like Marvin’s offensive game. He is soft around the basket and a poor finisher. Worse than Teague whose finishing abilities were written about last week. He is a spot up mid-range jump shooter and cannot create his own shots. Has been more effective in a bench role than as a starter. He does seem to defend better than average so he could have some value there. But he is a role player and nothing more so his trade value is low.

KOOL

February 21st, 2012
10:26 am

Passed up Chris Paul? The consensus top 2 prospects of that draft were Andrew Bogut & Marvin Wms. Hindsight is always 20/20, schultz.

CJ

February 21st, 2012
10:27 am

I’m almost certain that he’d be the best player on about 4 or 5 teams in the league. Put him somewhere where he is the number 1 guy and he may surprise some people.

Is it too late to use the Amnesty that should’ve already been used?