Georgia-Auburn game could be sacrificed in SEC scheduling

Completely worth losing the Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry so that we can add Mizzou and A&M to the Conference. Great plan. Really excited.
(Dripping with Sarcasm)

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It would be a shame. Georgia-Auburn is a great game every year and one of the better “friendly rivalries” in sports

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Man, as a Auburn man that would suck even though the Leg Humpers have been wearing us out lately.
After all these years I believe it is even or a one game advantage. War Eagle

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Kinda sad, but probably necessitated. When things go down to just two cross division games, it’s way too big of an advantage for teams who get traditionally weak rivals. Add in the fact that only 4 teams in the league really give a crap about their cross division rival (the four schultz mentioned), and it’s almost a no brainer. Though it will obviously upset those four schools a lot.

As a South Carolina fan, I can tell you that Arkansas is just another team to us. I’d just assume get to see the other cross division teams more often as play them every year. As it stands we’d only play Auburn once every six years, which is way too long, especially considering I care about Auburn just as much as I care about Arkansas. If you do away with the permanent rivals you’d play each cross division team once every 3 years, which is more palatable.

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I think McGarrity is one one of the major ones who’d oppose a 9 game SEC schedule, as it goes firmly against his “play the weakest schedule possible and win as much as possible” theory. Also I’m sure McGarrity doesn’t want to deal with playing 5 SEC road games every other year, which would not only be tough, but would also really put a dent in the checkbook, being forced to play at least 5 games outside of the 90K Sanford Stadium money making machine.

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I think I need to check my calender .Is today April Fool’s day? This has without a doubt one of the most hair-brained and idiotic things in college football I’ve heard to date. If Mr. McGarrity pulls this one off, I’ll personally come to Athens with a large bucket of tar& a huge bag of feathers with his and Mike Slime’s name all over it. Please tell me you’re just pulling our collective chain!

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I personally would be very dissapointed if that game got cancelled. I think that game is either number 1 or 2 for most Auburn fans living in Atlanta.

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@LHardingDawg – or you guys could drop such power houses as UL-Lafayette, UAB, Coastal Carolina, Idaho State, Tenn Tech, Western Carolina, or any of the other numerous OOC cupcakes y’all play like every other team in the SEC ….

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@GTbob Its hard for you to talk too much crap when the entire ACC conference schedule is a cupcake schedule. Or did you just forget about what happened to your CONFERENCE CHAMPION in the Orange bowl? Of course you guys are loving playing 9 conference games, it probably makes your schedules even easier.

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What they are doing is dropping the permanent cross division opponent so the rotation of the other cross division opponents goes faster. If you have 14 teams and only 8 conference games, that is the price you pay. The ACC got it right – 9 conference games. You keep the permanent opponent and rotate the other 6 in 2 at a time. You play everyone in the other division twice every 6 years.

For teams like UGA, USC, and UF that have a permanent in-state game, you just have 2 games to play with instead of 3. One could be a BCS opponent (e.g. Colorado) and one could be a cupcake, or you could have two cupcakes.

If it ever gets to 16 teams, I think you have to go to 4 pods.

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Jacket Fan – Do you really want to compare schedules. I mean 10-1 against Georgia and you want to talk trash. Get real, for Georgia it’s a cupcake game.

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@jacketFan Sorry that we don’t get to play Duke, Wake, Maryland, UNC, BC, etc every year. If we could put cupcakes like that on our schedule, sure we might beef up the OOC games. Talk crap about the SEC’s OOC scheduling when your conference schedules stop being a joke. Clemson looks like the best team in your conference when they’re playing ACC teams and then gets manhandled by a middle of the pack SEC team (South Carolina) and the Big (L)East champion destroys them.

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Pretty sure Tennessee doesn’t think UNC is a gimme, FJR.

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Sorry that we don’t get to play Duke, Wake, Maryland, UNC, BC, etc every year.

Is that list really worse then Ole Miss, Miss St, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Vandy? UGA will probably only play one ranked team this year. Wow, what a tough schedule.

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The truth hurts, doesn’t it, FJR? You’re a bit touchy about it…

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I’d rather give up the GA – GATech rivalry than GA – Auburn. More tradition and better competition in the South’s Oldest Rivalry than in Good Ol’ Fashion Hate.

But, I’d be glad to get rid of another game and keep both.

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@Frontman What the heck are you talking about? Sure the SEC schedules relatively weak OOC schedules. But as a conference we more or less dominate the ACC on the field. Clemson is perhaps the premier team in the ACC right now and South Carolina, a middle of the pack SEC team, has beaten them soundly three years in a row now. Tech is one of the better teams in the ACC, what have they done against UGA?

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Why not a 9 game SEC slate to preserve these traditional games and add more excitement into the season lineup? I don’t see how that would doom the Georgia Tech rivalry game. By my math, 9 conference games and the GT matchup would still allow 2 slots for the little sisters of the poor.

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The two best teams in your league looked AWFUL out of conference this year.

Virginia Tech’s only OOC loss was in overtime in a BCS game. That is considered awful?

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We haven’t done much against UGA, FJR. No question about it. But UGA is also going through the longest period of sustained success in their history, so we have to keep things in perspective.

As to Clemson, South Carolina was not a middle of the pack SEC team. They went 11-2 and are so pissed they didn’t play in the SECCG that they want to change the rules.

Lastly, the point I was trying to make about UNC was that a middle of the pack ACC team is typically just as mediocre as a middle of the pack SEC team.

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@GT Bob – So you’re going ahead and granting that GT isn’t going to be ranked at the end of the year when they play UGA and is going to have another failure of a year? (there’s no way South Carolina won’t be ranked when they play UGA, they’re going to start top 10 and couldn’t fall fast enough to be non-top 25)

Dang, it must suck to be a Tech fan, when you use the fact that you, yourself, believe your year is going to be a failure as a way to attack UGA.

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Amen Ozzfest! I’m starting to yearn for the days of Damon Evans, panties in his lap and all. At least he had the cajones to schedule an interesting lineup of games.

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Who would have thought ten years ago the Texas AM vs Texas and Oklahoma vs Nebraska games would end. Money trumps tradition everytime.

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I thought every year sucked if you were a Tech fan….

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I thought every year sucked if you were a Tech fan….

Nah, its not so bad because we never have unrealistic expectations.

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Conference records of 2010 UNC and Tennessee: UNC 4-4, Tennessee 3-5

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We need to ask Clay Travis what he would do

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@RxDawg Silly UGA fans, confusing a statement clearly referring to LAST YEAR with it being about ALL TIME.

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@George Stein – LOL, I just realized you were bringing up a game from two years ago (UNC-Tenn). You know your point is weak when you have to use one single game from two seasons ago to make it.

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@FJR,

Another advantage is that you actually get the best two teams into the championship game. This year for example, it probably would have been an Alabama/LSU rematch. Then OSU would have had their shot at the winner. Currently if one side or the other is loaded, somebody sneaks in from the weaker side. I’m sure that’s happended to UGA before.

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Losing UGA/Auburn and UT/Bama is UNACCEPTABLE. Those rivalries help make the backbone of the conference.

And threatening the out-of-conference rivalries (UGA/Tech, SCar/Clemson, UF/FL. State) in the wake of a potential 9-game conference schedule is like the non-logic that accompanies certain politicians when someone says they’re going to cut government funding. “We’ll fire all the policemen and schoolteachers!” Really? THAT’S the first thing you think to get rid of?

How about you drop one of the cupcake games that EVERY TEAM IN THE CONFERENCE schedules EVERY YEAR.

Rivalries make college football different from every other sport. You take those away for the sake of expansion revenue and CFB really WILL just be the NFL Lite.

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You can say one thing about McGarity, he`s the Bear Bryant of schedules. Who`s replaces Auburn, Cumberland College? Tech beat them 220-0 several years back.

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Reading some of the comments, I like Gordon’s idea.

Kill the division and give every team 3 or 4 permanent rivals, with the two best teams going to the SECCG in December.

That way’d we keep the rivalries while being able to see more teams more often. I honestly don’t see how that could possibly lose.

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It points out the flaws in your beliefs, FJR.

SEC vs ACC since 2007: 23-19

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@RXDawg But the TV money is going to be the same regardless. UGA brings in, what, like $5 Mill in revenue for every home game? Ask the AD or president what they care about more, $5 million they’d lose in an additional home game lost or rivalries that only 4 of the 14 teams really care about. As sad as it is, $5 Mill is more important to them, especially when you consider all 14 teams. Because that buys stadium expansions, upgraded facilities, etc. Which gets recruits, which win games, which brings in more money.

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GTBob is the name of the haircut that most girls at GT have. Did you see those shots of the student section at the UGA/GT game. Yikes!

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@FJR,

We have reached a situation where everyone is not going to get everything they want. In this system, I’m sure everyone would get the one they wanted the most, and probably the top 2. All 3? Probably not in most cases. But if you want 8 games, you either are going to have a VERY slow rotation or are going to have to drop permanent opponents. Either of those is going to upset a lot of people too. This plan only drops the divisions, which haven’t been in place long enough to really say its a tradition.

Think of the SEC conference emblem. A hub with 14 spokes coming out of it representing the teams. The team opposite to you and to either side of you are your permanent opponents. If you sit down and work out the must haves, I think most people will be mostly happy, which is all you can ask for at this point.

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GTBob is the name of the haircut that most girls at GT have. Did you see those shots of the student section at the UGA/GT game. Yikes!

I thought GT didn’t have any girls?

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@george Stein Arbitrary endpoints much? Why not list the last 3 years? Why not list the last 10 years? Why not list last year? Or did you just pick 2007 because then the best two year period in history for the ACC against the SEC JUST SO HAPPENED to be 2007 and 2008. Over 2007-2008, mostly on the strength of a few teams, the SEC managed to actually have a winning record against the SEC. Outside of those two years, the SEC has DOMINATED the ACC.

All-Time the SEC is 263-130-10 against the ACC

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When the SEC AD’s and President’s meet this year in Destin

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GTBob….did I hear you right??? Tech never has unrealistic expectations?????? OMG you ARE deluded!

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GTBob likes to get on here every day and argue with these college kids. Makes him feel important, I guess.

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So you don’t see any value in trends, FJR?

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I thought GT didn’t have any girls?

They have em but man are they dogs.

P.S. Please stop comparing the SEC to the ACC. It makes you look stupid.

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GTBob…just go away…better yet go hang on Manboobs at the Coke Joke

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Can anyone tell me how all this conference jumping/swapping/adding/deleting got started several years ago? The problem with today’s generation is they actually know or care very little about tradition. In 25-years from now, there will be so many changes some kid from Vanderbilt’s CLASS OF 2037(which will now be playing in the ONLY 4.0 GPA LEAGUE) will be saying, “Hey I remember hearing that in the good ole days when we played in the ACC, & my daddy actually said, and can you believe this, we played in the SEC at one time. Georgia Tech will be playing in the (SCIENCE AND ENGINEER’S LEAGUE) Georgia and Florida will be playing in the (PARTY SCHOOL LEAGUE).

Tradition, well to the new society of college football organizers, it will just be a thing of the past. Their motto = SHOW ME THE MONEY!

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FJR–I don’t see how the seven teams in the west would cycle through every 3 years if you are playing home and home in back to back years and that’s doing away with the traditional rival games. Can you explain?

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@george Stein um, sure. last year the ACC won, what, one game against the SEC? Florida State over Florida? I’ll take that trend of last year’s 5-1 trouncing by the SEC. (3-1 in the end of the year games, SEC 2-0 in bowl matchups).

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2011 ACC vs SEC record: 2-3

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Buzzed…you’re right…Tek would lose their only sell out every other year

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Even comparing the SEC ( Considered the best BCS Conference by far ) to the ACC ( which gets consideration as the worst BCS conference along with the Big East ) is asinine.

Tech fans often look at their record for the season as a measure for success but they don’t put it in the context of the ACC.

For example. 7 or 8 wins in the ACC would equate to 3-4 in the SEC.

Techs best year of late the 2009 10 win team would equate to around 7 or 8 wins in the SEC.

You have to put things in the proper context

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You can never prove that’s true, headley.

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Not going to happen. Alabama and Tennessee already raised hell about this very same issue and it is why Mizzou ended up in the East Division. I am no even sure why the AJC decided to publish this.

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@ FJR…
You’ve obviously never been past Coke HQ on North Ave headed west…..try Googling “The Bluff” in Atlanta and look at it on a map….

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headley lamar for SEC commissioner! He’ll get it straightened out. Then he could become the GOV.

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Those numbers don’t do anything to help project the record of an ACC team playing an SEC schedule, headley.

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The crime dogs ran away from Bama. So is anyone really surprised that they want to duck Auburn too?

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Now lets look at the bowl games. Again no homecoming games here. The match ups are supposed to be even ( although the SEC often plays its lower ranked teams against higher ranked teams from other conferences. Ala Chick Fil A bowl where ACC #2 team plays SEC #5 )

SEC Record last year

6-3

ACC

2-6

Now lets look at all time bowl records.

SEC 201 – 157
ACC 88 – 92

Finally lets look at the one bowl game that matches an ACC vs SEC opponent every year.

Even though the SEC plays a team 3 seeds lower from its conference it still wins that game.

10 of the last 16.

Case closed.

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I agree with Jeff that the SEC will likely not go to more than an 8 game schedule. If they go to 9, that makes it less likely that mid tier teams will become bowl eligible – meaning less $$$ for the conference. Rivalries and tradtion go out of the window when “amateur” athletics show their true reason for existence.

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Those numbers don’t do anything to help project the record of an ACC team playing an SEC schedule, headley.

Not precisely but ill bet its pretty close.

What say you ? How well would Tech do in the SEC.

They would probably dominate right.

I can see Tech beating Alabama, LSU, Georgia (lol), Auburn, South Carolina, Arkansas, Florida, etc etc on a regular basis. Cant you lol.

Bottom line take whatever win total a team has in the ACC and knock 3 or 4 off it if they played in the SEC.

Those numbers don’t lie.

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Last thing, headley. Let’s assume that you’re right about the #2 vs #5 thing. Doesn’t that pretty much cut to the heart of the idea that an 8 win ACC is a 4 win SEC team?

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What numbers, headley? You’re making this stuff up as you go.

I have no idea how well Tech would do in the SEC. If we played Tennessee’s schedule, probably not too hot. If we played UGA’s schedule, probably about 6-2.

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If we played UGA’s schedule, probably about 6-2.

LOL.

What numbers, headley? You’re making this stuff up as you go.

Nope sorry. Those are the real numbers. Look it up.

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I was not for this expansion in the first place! If this game is sacrificed and removes us further from the traditions of the SEC…..not much else is sacred. One day they will put Auburn in the East (it’s more east than MO) and then Bammer won’t be playing Auburn either!

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Last thing, headley. Let’s assume that you’re right about the #2 vs #5 thing. Doesn’t that pretty much cut to the heart of the idea that an 8 win ACC is a 4 win SEC team?

If anything it validates it.

The SEC using a much lower ranked, seeded, picked team from its conference routinely beats a much higher seeded, ranked, picked team from the ACC.

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Florida and Auburn are tossups, so I split the difference.

LOL.

What about UGA. Is that a “tossup” too ?

LOL

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ACC is 10-9 in the Chick-fil-A bowl against the SEC. They only started getting the #2 pick four or five years ago.

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UGA didn’t play UGA this year, headley.

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“The SEC using a much lower ranked, seeded, picked team from its conference routinely beats a much higher seeded, ranked, picked team from the ACC.”

Routinely beats??? The record in the last 10 Peach Bowls is 5-5.

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ACC is 10-9 in the Chick-fil-A bowl against the SEC. They only started getting the #2 pick four or five years ago.

umm wrong.

They have lost 10 of the last 16.

they did win the first 4.

January 2, 1993 North Carolina 21 Mississippi State 17 notes
December 31, 1993 Clemson 14 Kentucky 13 notes
January 1, 1995 North Carolina State 28 Mississippi State 24 notes
December 30, 1995 Virginia 34 Georgia 27 notes
December 28, 1996 LSU 10 Clemson 7 notes
January 2, 1998 Auburn 21 Clemson 17 notes
December 31, 1998 Georgia 35 Virginia 33 notes
December 30, 1999 Mississippi State 17 Clemson 7 notes
December 29, 2000 LSU 28 Georgia Tech 14 notes
December 31, 2001 North Carolina 16 Auburn 10 notes
December 31, 2002 Maryland 30 Tennessee 3 notes
January 2, 2004 Clemson 27 Tennessee 14 notes
December 31, 2004 Miami (Florida) 27 Florida 10 notes
December 30, 2005 LSU 40 Miami (Florida) 3 notes
December 30, 2006 Georgia 31 Virginia Tech 24 notes
December 31, 2007 Auburn 23 Clemson 20 (OT) notes
December 31, 2008 LSU 38 Georgia Tech 3 notes
December 31, 2009 Virginia Tech 37 Tennessee 14 notes
December 31, 2010 Florida State 26 South Carolina 17 notes
December 31, 2011 Auburn 43 Virginia 24 notes

Better count again.

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All I can say is they need to think long and hard about this. It takes a hundred years to build a hundred year tradition. Can’t unbreak a streak.

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Hypothetically give tech Missouri’s 2012 SEC schedule. Find 6 conference wins , Replace Bama with ole miss. Losses UGA, SC, Florida, Tenn. Vandy, Texas am , Toss up Kentucky, likely win Ole miss.
Kentucky and Ole Miss have more depth.

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Do you have trouble adding, headley?

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Take off the SEC colored glasses, Ghost.

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Well, as usual the peckerwood society idiots have arrived….the North Ave Boys….time to go

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He’s a complete dolt, Paul. It’s almost too easy.

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I am being serious George, I could see Tech in SEC easily 2-6.Techs not big ,physical or deep enough to compete in the SEC. 3-5 would be a best case scenario and one of the 3 would be an upset.

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Then we’ll have to agree to disagree, Ghost.

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Average in the SEC is well above average in conferences like the ACC.

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5150 UOAD ……..Better watch the Ga Southern comment…I mean look at the Turds schedule in the coming years…Elon, Ga Southern,Wofford, Middle Tenn, SE Louisiana….yeah like the Turds are really picking up some toughies with that list

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Maybe the Dawgs can get Kentucky and Vandy removed as well. They will lose to them as well as Arkansas.. I guess if Auburn goes Arkansas will be the only other tough SEC team the Dawgs will play

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You forgot BYU, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, and South Carolina, Dumbo.

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That’s 5th grade logic, Greene Hornets. Plus, we don’t ride their (nonexistent) coattails.

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Don’t try to pull the academic card, tech recruits the same players everyone else does.Pj could never attract the players it would require to compete in the SEC.

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Ghost that is your opinion. Tech doesn’t go after the same kids. There have been a few articles in the AJC explaining that FACT. We do go after some of the Same kids but not as many as you are implying.

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+35

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Time to grow up then, Dumbo.

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Bob…tell us all what exactly has VT done….this should be interesting…as a matter of fact tell us what any ACC team has done in the last 3,4 or 5 decades outside of bringing down FSU once they joined the conf

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Georgia Southern played Bama better than most SEC teams!

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This is a no brainer. Everyone should rotate equally across divisions. I doubt that the other 10 teams in the conference give a flip about the Auburn-UGA & Tn-Bama games. Those are the two games that are holding back a balanced schedule for ALL teams.

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Who cares if he’s gay, Stinger2?

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I proposed a plan at 4:03. Here is one stab at the permanent opponents. There would be 3 for each team. The first two make sense, the third isn’t a natural rival but that is what you have to do to make it work. I think the most important games are preserved.

UGA – AU, FL, MSST
AU – GA, AL, MO
AL – AU, TN, TAM
TN – AL, VN, ARK
VN – TN, KY, LSU
KY – VN, MS, SC
MS – KY, MSST, FL
MSST – MS, MO, GA
MO – MSST, TAM, AU
TAM – MO, ARK, AL
ARK – TAM, LSU, TN
LSU – ARK, SC, VN
SC – LSU, FL, KY
FL – SC, GA, MS

The advantages are:
1) 8 games, which most AD’s want for OOC scheduling flexibility.
2) Most important rivalries preserved.
3) You play everyone in the league at least once every 2 years, and at least once every 4 years at home.
4) The best two teams get into the championship game every year.

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http://www.atlantahaulitallinc.com/Bird_Houses.php
Bama fans get your #14 championship house
Dawg fans get a UGA helmet house or an Uga history Dawg House
Any team helmet can be done.

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WDE.. the problem is that people have said they don’t want to see maybe a Bama v Auburn rematch a week later in the SEC CG.

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5150, over 30 players on the Georgia roster last year had offers from Tech coming out of high school.
7 out of 19 of the 2012 class had offers from Tech. Think Pj would have been flying players in in from Australia if he would’ve been able to sign Atkins, Deloach, Jenkins and Taylor. I hope Tech keeps Pj forever, O’leary and Gailey teams had more talent .

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Also, those who say Auburn should be in the East…all they have to do is keep on putting down SC and UF, then beat Georgia, and they’re guaranteed to always be in the SEC Championship.

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Ghost please post link to the list of 30 players. Many get EARLY offers but through more screening, evaluation, and test scores many of those kids no longer have a tech offer.

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Ghost post a list of players TECH & UGa were still actively recruiting late in the process that both UGa and Tech wanted.

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Contractor,
Excuse me but “that Florida mentality” has won 3 NC’s in the past 16 years along with 7 SEC titles in the past 20 years. How many has “that Georgia mentality” produced?

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Instead of the SEC, its now the $EC. Get used to it. Nothing else matters. This is no longer intercollegiate athletics, its pro football. Drop the pretense. Let Tricky Nick recruit however he wants. But the players should form a union and take some of that cash.

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Call it what it is. SEC would rather drop 100+ year old rivalries so that they can keep an extra cupcake on the schedule.

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The SEC should already be playing 9 conference games. Other conferences do and to me that is the small price of expansion. In fact, what is the point of conference expansion if you aren’t going to play a nice sample size of teams from your conference? Playing 8 conference games in a 14 team conference means you play 62% of the teams in your conference each year. Pathetic!

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I think you’ll see the conference expand to 16 teams within the next 5 years and possibly a 10 game conference schedule to go along with it.

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5150, I am not going to go through the lists over since 2008. Go to rivals or scout the info is there. But I will give you some names. B. boykin, t. King, j Owens, B rambo, C robinson, d tyson,m gilliard, D lee,B smith, K houston, alec ogletree, , garrison smith, tj stripling, Mike Thorton, S. bailey, Chris conley, watts dantzler, z de bell, ray drew, A. herrera, Nick marshall (just got kicked off the team) Js wesley, X ward, Jordan jenkins,john atkins, ja, deloach, quayvon hicks, Keith marshall, J. taylor.

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5150,
They will never stop “robbing the fans” when the fans continue to fill the seats. It’s all about the money.

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This has got to be the lamest idea in the history of the conference. Just move us (Auburn) to the East, which any dummy who made a “C” in geography can figure out is a natural fit. We can still play the Tuscalosers every year. Once a conference reaches a certain size, it makes no sense to insist on playing “x” games against teams in the other conference anyway. The SEC title game becomes more like a World Series (before the god-awful inter-league play started), even more exciting. Basketball and baseball have more games so rivalries could build up across divisions.

A conference without traditions is just moneyball, I don’t want to watch that at all!

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Dump Tech.

Keep Fraudburn. At least it’s a real opponent.

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If the SEC plays only 2 opposite division schools every year, they may as well split into 2 separate conferences. I guess I was wrong in assuming the 6-2 schedule was temporary, to accommodate the 2 new schools’ immediate scheduling conflicts.

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Fire CMR!

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this is how delusional acc fans are acc teams play creampuff non conference games too plus that crappy conference schedule. and what moron defended va tech who have they beat in the last 4 years that meant anything they got drug by clemson twice last year lost boise and lets not forget about being beat by james madison sure ole miss lost to a div 2a team or whatever they call it know but not the bigdogs of the sec you acc fans are morons trying to talk about sec football. you know why sec guys dont talk bad about acc basketball because we know yall are ahead of us in basketball because we are not stupid.

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AU UGA is one of the better rivalry games played EVER…We have played AU for over 100 years and AU has a 1 game advantage. That is about as good of a rivalry as there is, this would be HORRIBLE losing that game. So we would rotate a Miss State or a Arkansas in place of AU in some years? College FB has JUMPED the SHARK..

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Move AU to the East and Missou to the West..UT/Bama hasn’t been relevant in 15 years…AU to the east makes too much sense

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AU really tried to move to the East this past season, UGA,bammer,UF did not want it..

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Looks a little like the SEC brain trust didn’t do as much Thinking about this expansion thing as we were lead to believe.

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Georgia is 31-11 against Georgia Tech dating back to 1970. Why drop the Trade School and pickup a non-BCS opponent when we already have the perfect cupcake?

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If this were to come to fruition it would be a sad day for both UGA and Auburn. College football is in large measure about tradition and the ” Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry” should be sacrosanct. Otherwise, it becomes like NFL where teams change leagues for financial reasons.

It hasn’t come to the point of dropping Auburn yet, but, in my mind, it is just another example of the fan being ignored and having an inferior product foisted upon the long suffering season ticket holder. Remember the rationale for the 12th game was so there could be more intersectional OOC games. And yes, I fault my own team for its “strategic” scheduling. I mean who wants to watch MTSU, Coastal Carolina, Samford, even Ga. Southern for that matter. I harken back to the days when Tech played USC Trojans, ND, UT. That is the way to get better-play better opponents.

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Could we drop Kentucky or Vanderbilt? Of course, this may be a moot point if Auburn and Alabama move over to the SEC East after next year. I doubt that will happen, though..can you imagine UF, UT, UGA, Bama, AU all in the same SIDE of the conference?

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48 because what they are Building On now has NOTHING to do with Students or Institutions of Higher Learning, but MONEY.

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It’s not just UGA Auburn, it’s Alabama Tennessee, Fla LSU as well, if they end these games it would be no problem to end the Fla GA game or Bama AU or any of the traditional games. History may repeat it’s self if these conferences get to big. The Old southern conference broke up when it got to big and formed the SEC. If they take away the traditional games and the conference gets to big what’s to say some of the founding teams jump ship and start another conference down the road.

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48…Texas v Texas A&M, Pittsburgh v WVU, Kansas v Mizzou and many other game are looking to disappear so Conferences will keep the pansy teams instead of good tough games.

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JB that will draw the same fire that USC V Clemson is drawing. The State Politicians will start to make laws to keep these games.
If you had guts would would say drop Ga Southern but we know you don’t have the guts to play a hard schedule. McGarity has no balls.

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The old southern conference…..

The conference was formed on February 25, 1921 in Atlanta as fourteen member institutions split from the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association.[1] Southern Conference charter members were Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi State, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Washington & Lee. In 1922, six more universities – Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, and Vanderbilt joined the conference. Later additions included Sewanee (1923), Virginia Military Institute (1924), and Duke (1929).
The SoCon is particularly notable for having spawned two other major conferences. In 1933, thirteen schools located south and west of the Appalachians (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, University of the South, Tennessee, Tulane, and Vanderbilt) departed the SoCon to form the Southeastern Conference (SEC).[1] In 1953, seven schools (Clemson, Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, and Wake Forest) withdrew from the SoCon to form the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC).[1]

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Okie St was an easy WIN when UGa made the contract. Arizona hasn’t been that good in years. UGa dropped the H-n-H with Oregon so that is why the Boise St game happened.

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5150 UOAD what’s it like to have no life? I just did a quick look at this blog and you have been on all afternoon and night. AND YOU ARE NOT EVEN A GEORGIA FAN! Talk about pathetic. You and GTBob need to get together and have a milk or something.

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@ FJR:

Been keeping up with D-1 Football long???

I didn’t think so. The first thing McGarity did when UGA hired him was cancel a scheduled game with a pushover and scheduled Boise State but don’t let the facts get in the way of your single digit IQ creations.

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Thanks STEVE. I finished a job this morning and got done around lunch. been watching some Basket ball tonight.

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From Michael Adams:

“My best guess is we’re going to end up with either a four- or eight-team playoff by the time we get to ’14,” he told the executive committee of the UGA Athletic Association’s board of directors Wednesday.

Adams’ assessment came during the regularly scheduled winter meeting of the board, which also received an update in closed session on contract-extension negotiations with football coach Mark Richt.

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This clown has NO business discussing Football. He is what is wrong with UGA football. He wants the spotlight on “HIM” and he finished ruining Georgia Football by forcing Vince Dooley out as AD.

I am not at all a UGA fan, but look at the successful programs around and you see a Strong AD who lets his football coach run the program and the President stays in the background and out of the spotlight.

Michael Adams needs to leave the conference and leave college sports alone.

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don’t you remember when McGarrity was hired from Fla. He said then the plan was to play 12 games–8 SEC, Tech (due to the rivalry) and 3 Pushovers like UF did every year, since the SEC schedule was so brutal. So now what I am understanding is he is saying that if we go to 9 SEC games, we’ll have to drop Tech to make room for the 3 pushovers. Huh?
Keep Ga Tech and cancel Fla Atlantic or Buffalo. He won’t because as Greg learned at UF, winning records bring in the donors. It’s all about the Money !!

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So Richt is the third best sec coach. Your point?

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MONKEY that is Spurrier at So Carolina. What is his record including Duke and Florida?

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Well, maybe in a bowl game or a OOC game.

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@ 5150:

I have refrained from picking on you but since you keep begging for it I will try to accomodate you even though you have no dog in this fight. Are you saying Boise was not a step up from Oregon? At the time the Boise State game was finalized they were ranked No.5 in the nation so that pretty well disqualifies your nerdofthemonth statement about McGarity trying to schedule ALL easy games.

If he wants an undefeated season all he would have to do is schedule your Junior College-like Bunglebees all 12 games.

Why are y’all having so many NCAA problems yet are still having problems acquiring an above .500 season?

And why are y’all even still talking football Oh, now I remember. Your BB team is even worse than your Middle School Offense running football team

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Little publicized facts from Red Elephant Country(Things you will never hear from a Bama fan)

UGA/CMR owns St. Saban ………………………..SS has lost 3 of 4 to UGA/CMR

Louisiana Monroe owns St. Saban………………SS has lost 1 of 1 to LM

Can I get an AMEN??????????????????????

Life is good in Dawg Nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Come on PEOPLE,,,,,,the AU/UGA game shoule always be played. The Bama people act as people in Tennessee see their game in the same light. Thats BULL BULL BULL. The new UT athletic director owes his career to Mal Moore, the athletic director at alabama. Thats the only reason UT is concerned about that game.

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Brainiac Boise State isn’t better than Oregon. They are give or take pretty even. Oregon plays better competition year in year out. What McGarity did was to lose 2 hard games for 1 in the DOME.

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Steve Spurrier was 54- 12 verse top 20 teams(not top 25) teams while at Florida…just answering the question.

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Brainiac(Dawg For Life) / (CMR fan for life)

February 8th, 2012
10:59 pm
Little publicized facts from Red Elephant Country(Things you will never hear from a Bama fan)

UGA/CMR owns St. Saban ………………………..SS has lost 3 of 4 to UGA/CMR

Louisiana Monroe owns St. Saban………………SS has lost 1 of 1 to LM

Can I get an AMEN??????????????????????

Life is good in Dawg Nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The real record:

Nick Saban vs. Mark Richt
Record against Mark Richt since 2000: 3-2
Last home loss against Mark Richt: September 22, 2007
Last road win against Mark Richt: September 27, 2008 Season Nick Saban School Mark Richt School Outcome Location
2008 Alabama Georgia Win, 41-30 (see details) Away
2007 Alabama Georgia Loss, 23-26 (see details) Home
2004 Louisiana State Georgia Loss, 16-45 (see details) Away
2003 Louisiana State Georgia Win, 34-13 (see details) Atlanta, GA
2003 Louisiana State Georgia Win, 17-10 (see details) Home

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Money first, and us fans second.

Simple as that.

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That is right. The 100K+ at Bama and UT will still buy tickets so the presidents don’t care. The 80K+ at UGA and Auburn will still buy tickets so the presidents don’t care. Until the FANS don’t send in checks to renew season tickets the fans will not get what they want. Fans of all these schools are too afraid of losing their season tickets so they will continue to be force fed crappy OOC games and dropping Traditions because the presidents can do what they want to you sheep.

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If the AU v UGA game is dropped so will my season tickets. This is ridiculous!! Until we make the “leaders” of the SEC feel the pain, they will continue to do stupid things like let expand the conference to levels which destroy all traditions. It’s time we put a stop to this garbage and make our voices heard through the only method that SEC hears … $$$$.

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This would be a BAD move by the SEC.

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Wow, this is a disaster. I do NOT want to lose the Auburn game. I am especially against this change in scheduling because we as UGA fans can now count on one annual SEC loss for Tennessee (to Bammer, at least until Nicky leaves) which helps us in the division.

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Drop Georgia Tech and keep Auburn as a non conference game. Simple as that.

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Auburn has a women’s gymnastics team?

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[...] guess this is my day to crap all over Greg McGarity, but really, I can’t let this comment pass. “I think if you ask Alabama and Tennessee, like us and Auburn, we’d like to retain the [...]

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Whole problem could’ve been solved by moving Auburn to the East. If you wanted to maintain traditional cross-division rivalries, then Auburn-Alabama becomes the full-time rivalry game. Georgia and Tennessee would need new cross-division rivals, but the SEC jsut added two new teams. Tennessee gets Mizzou and Georgia gets Texas A&M. By moving Auburn to the East, you also renew the yearly rivalry game between Auburn and Florida.

Yes, I know moving Auburn would’ve been difficult, but they are the easternmost SEC West team, they have a history with many East school, and it makes more sense for them to be in the East than Missouri.

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The bottomline is with all this conference shake up going on UGA-UA is not the only rivalry that is gone. Look at Oklahoma-Nebraska for example and Syracuse-Georgetown in basketball. I am sure I missing others for both sports. Not good in my opinion.

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Personally I would rather play Auburn than Tech. They are a better program and would make things more challenging. In the long run it would make UGA a better team. And when you think of Tennessee-Alabama, when was the last time that the game was even interesting.

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. . why is anyone wasting time typing about anything regarding the ACC and this article? Comparing the SEC and the ACC, especially the ACC going through a 7-8 year stretch when even Miami and FSU are down, is laughable.

I hope the SEC finds a way to keep the UGA-auburn game going. If not, this realignment stuff, trying to keep up (?) with other conferences, (remind me why we’re trying to do that again? TV money?) will be the first mistake made by the conference in some time.

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everyone should let Adams and the SEC know how they feel

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People need to realize that this country is run by politicians. School presidents, atheltic directors, commisioners and the NCAA are politicians. Politicians are self serving, ego driven, power hungry, scratch my back and i’ll scratch yours people who don’t give a crap about the common person. They don’t care about what the public wants, they are only concerned with how to make the most money and keep the most power.

When you vote, you aren’t voting for the person who is going to do more good, you are voting for the person who is going to screw you the least.

Politicians will run this country into the ground and probably will ruin sports in this country as well.

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The rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. If you eliminate one of the “cupcakes” from your OOC schedule, how do those schools make up that revenue? Some of those programs survive on the money they get for having their brains beat in two or three times a year by the “big boys”.

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SIMPLE solution! After the 2012 season, switch Auburn and Alabama to the East. Switch Missouri to the West, which it should be anyway. Traditional rivalries are preserved, and old rivalries like Aurburn – Florida can be resumed. Must I think of everything? THIS solution, is idiot proof, and if the SEC does not agree, then they are idiots.

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“IF so, how to accomplish this and keep the IRON Bowl alive.”

The Iron Bowl should be suspended. Period. Bama fans poisoning trees, tea bagging other fans etc have ruined that once great rivalry.

Bama fans are pathetic and sick in the head.

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Why not get the NFL to pay part of the cost of college football programs since it is there minor league. Then go to sixteen games with three divisions in the SEC. One division will be Georgia,Tennessee,Auburn,Alabama, and Florida. Each of these teams play a home and away each year. Then have the playoffs for the conference championship. Some will say this takes away from the purpose of education. However. from what I see and hear education is not the purpose of college football. Let’s play some football where money rules and players are paid big time.

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The St Louis TV market is not worth losing Georgia-Auburn. Fight it McGarity! Don’t even put it on the table!

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Would the author of the article care to explain WHY the SEC refuses to go to 9-game Conference schedules?

Did he even ask UGA’s AD why the Conf. doesn’t want to go to 9-game conference schedules?

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No Georgia-Auburn during football season just ain’t right.

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Sorry, I put ‘Bama on there twice. Oops.

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WnE —- $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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The teams like Miss ST, Ky…… will not have as good a chance at a Bowl game with a 9 game conf. schedule.

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FJR, as a long time Gator, I disagree with your assessment of the UF-LSU rivalry. LHarding Dawg is correct. As a SoCar grad, you are still new to the SEC and you have not yet achieved any dominant SEC tradition. Once you achieve the tradition of UF, UGA, AU, LSU, BAMA and UT in football you can pontificate. Until then just be happy that you have a UF grad as your coach who lifted you from the bottom of the ladder.

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I agree money talks.

As a result, I agree with one post above: eliminate 6 permanent division games. Instead, create 3 permanent conference opponent games and rotate the 5 other conference games.

In case of UGA, AU/UF/USC can be your permanent conference opponents.

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The south is all about traditions. It is part of the heritage and a part of what makes it so special to live in the south. The SEC has enough money and enough TV coverage. When will the boneheads that run the SEC, quit trying to ruin the SEC?

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RedandBlackDawg, I totally agree with you. The newbies such as SC, AR, A&M and Mizzou need to establish some SEC tradition by their own merit. We need to leave the traditional games such as UF-LSU, UGA-AU and UT-BAMA alone.

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Know UGA is breathing easier that they didn’t move Auburn and Alabama to the East and allow TAM nd MIZZOU to both be in the west, They would have never had another oppoortunity at a championship game, Whew…….

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Folks seem to forget that GT WAS a charter member in the SEC until 1964. Coach Dodd didn’t much care for Bama hitting them in the mouth & had grand designs of being the Notre Dame of the South. His delusion, lack of foresight and mainly greed left GT begging to get in the basketball dominated ACC in 1978. He wanted to be an Independent, and not have to share all that TV money with the other SEC members. He couldn’t have dreamed of how big money has taken over College Football today. So, if GT had the kahunas to stay in the SEC we wouldn’t be having this discussion now, but Bobby Dodd (RIP)caused all of this almost 50 years ago. I say keep it at 8 conference games, keep GT and DROP a cupcake!

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I’d hate to see those games go but even worse would be to have the rotation be such that they only play every 8 years or something. Skipping one year might be okay but these rivals should at LEAST play twice every three years.

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Here’s an idea why not let the season ticket holders for all the schools vote on the what the conference schedule should be, somewhat like a proxy vote. Since the people who pay a large percentage of each team’s budget were not consulted about this dumb-ass expansion as well as the continually changing game times dictated by the TV deities they should at least have some say in this mess. Adding schools to a conference based on size of their potential television market is despicable; with this logic we should throw Ol’ Miss and Mississippi State out of the conference to add Central Florida and SMU.

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I ‘d rather drop TECH, it’s an easy win but we could pay them to come to Athens every few years.

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What in the world are these morons thinking? No UT vs Bama , no Auburn vs UGA…what next morons no UGA vs UF oh the horror !!

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Has anyone posited the idea of going to three or four divisions in the SEC?

With three divisions, you would have three division winners and a wild card.

2011 would have looked like this:
LSU vs. Arkansas and Alabama vs. Georgia. The winners play in Atlanta.

West: Texas A&M, Missouri, LSU, Arkansas
Central: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi St, Mississippi, Vanderbilt
East: Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky

I based this on geography. This also leaves room for future expansion.

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Keep Auburn–Period. It is idiotic to even suggest that the oldest rivalry in the South be put aside FOR ANY REASON. I guess that is why Jeff is bringing it up.

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Expansion Sucks

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There’s a big difference between an easy win and a consistent win. Georgia has beaten Tech on a consistent basis the past ten years. However, I don’t think one could say many of those games have been easy. Typically, the score is fairly close. Likewise, only delusional Florida fans would say the game (né Cocktail Party) between the Gators and the Dawgs is easy.

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mcdaviddick…..playing auburn is like playing a high school?
Strength of schedules are cyclical….only a very few years ago GA had the toughest rated schedule in nation. It changes for every team, even yours, whichever that might be.

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beachdog

February 9th, 2012
10:49 am
I ‘d rather drop TECH, it’s an easy win but we could pay them to come to Athens every few years.
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There’s a difference between an easy win and a consistent win. The Dawgs have beaten the Jackets consistently for the past ten years. However, I don’t think anyone who watched those games would classify many of the wins as easy. Likewise, only the most delusional Gator fans would call wins over Georgia easy during a similar time frame.

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Adams tells Athletic Board “we have more money than God”!

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The article said when Syracuse and Pitt come in to the league when did that happen, don’t need them 2 schools, besides we should’ve taken southern miss and a NC school like wake forset to stay in the sSe region.

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Vandy 41 – Wake 7

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My high school has first divs on the 1 year old “outdated” million dollar scoreboard, when they replace it with the soon to be outdated billion dollar scoreboard.
How big is big? We ain’t there yet

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Hope scholarships are going away kids. Better come up with some money or play something really, really well, cause the only scholarships left are gonna be of the athletic kind.

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Missouri should have been put in the SEC west and auburn to the east, but alabama would not permit it, since they wanted to keep their annual game with tennessee and auburn. Alabama runs the conference–the rest of the chump teams have to do what they want.

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Texas is getting a laugh right now. They are screwing with Bama, Auburn, Georgia, and Tennessee just by making Texas A&M mad enough to leave their league.

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The UGA – AU is my favorite football rivalry game in the SEC. Losing the Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry to accomodate Mizzou and A&M would be a shame. As an Auburn fan, I’d like to see Auburn moved to the SEC East. Then this would be a non-issue. And yes, I’d rather keep UGA as a rival over Bama any day! Plus Auburn would get Florida and UT back which were great rival games also. The AU-UGA rivaly is special. The Auburn-Bama rivalry has turned into one of hate for far too many people.

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http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team

How much whining have we all heard about UGA”s “Weak Scheduling” – well sorry – don’t let actual facts get in the way. Yes UGA missed Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas in the regular season – not by their choosing but as dictated by the SEC Schedule- but their final strength of schedule in 2011 season- 10th – out of 120 teams. South Carolina by comparison was 21st. If you go back 9 years – which pretty much evens things out, as some years you get tougher matchups and some easier – UGA average strength of schedule is 18th Nationally. Alabama has finished among the top during their run with Saban, but going back the same 9 years – their Avg stregth of schedule – 22nd.

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Is nothing sacred?

at least the curmudgeons who run the NCAA and SEC will have more money to line their pockets.

Maybe instead of games we could just have 4 hours of commercials and then watch a vote on who will be the national champion each year

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Dvision 1-A teams should be limited to playing one 1-AA game per year. It would allow some traditions to continue and eliminate the TURDITION of padding schedules with teams that have almost no chance of winning the game.

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McGarity is gutless … don’t believe me? Check out his football schedules while he was at UF!

His idea of football scheduling is like the Seinfeld episode where Kramer (McGarity) was DOMINATING his KA-ra-TAY class vs. 9-year-olds.

Just look at the 2012 schedule … he’s so afraid of a possible loss to GT that he’s got GA SOUTHERN, GA freakin SOUTHERN, in game ELEVEN (11)! Does he not realize that UGA is 3-1 vs PJ/GT? The AD must know something we don’t.

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There’s a simple solution to get them find a solution without cutting rivalry games, and that is to threaten donations. They will start listening if they think they will lose money.

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Lets drop the fixed “East West” divisions. Set a new division lineup each year, shuffling the 7 team divisions each year. Each team could then keep 2 rivalry games and would play every other SEC team every 4 years. UGA keeps UF and AU. Stay on an 8 game SEC schedule with the other 6 games rotating each year. Every year, one team rotates off your 6 game divisional schedule and a new one comes on. Once on the schedule, you play for 6 consecutive years (good for 3 home and 3 away); then go 5 years without playing until you rotate back on again.

Still have division champs and a SECC game each year with the two division winners.

Anyone follow this????

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We could keep all the cross division games if the SEC wasn’t so afraid of a 9-game conference schedule.

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Goodbye College football, it was good knowing you. We had some fun there for a while, but these last few years, and these retarded changes, are just killing a great sport.

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how about breaking the divisions into north/south? north: UK, UT, Arky, Vandy, Mizzou, SC, Ole Miss…south: UF, LSU, Bama, Barn, TAMU, MIssy St, and UGA…that would insure that uga plays a legitimate football schedule…

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elaj – UGA plays the same schedule that every other SEC team plays… They play all their division teams and then rotate the non division as everyone else in the confrence does… Whats your problem … u an ACC guy? now talk legitimate schedule. No team in the ACC plays a schedule even close to as tough as any team in the SEC. Just the facts!/

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McGarity’s main concern if keeping 7 home games, period. If you went to 9 that becomes inpossible because we play tech home and home and Florida on the road every year. Add another road game every other year and with Clemson and Ohio State home and home. Does anyone want to play 3 home and 6 away SEC games some years.

Can’t pay the bills that way, either have to lose Aubur, or Tech, or play Fla home and home only way to play 9 SEC games.

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McGarrity says that some of the regional rivalries might have to be sacrificed for scheduling purposes. There is a much easier solution to the problem.Tell the teams to quit scheduling out of conference cupcakes and they will be able to keep the “TRADITIONAL” regional rivalries. If the SEC is truly the best conference, then it makes no sense to go out and schedule the LA Monroes of the college world. Do as the ACC did and go to a 9 game conference schedule and keep your main out of conference or regional rivalries. So what if you lose a game during the season, if SEC teams are so superior then it won’t matter come bowl time cause they will just dominate anyway, right?
There is more to this than money. You have long time rivals that play for pure pride and that kind of tradition doesn’t need to be sacrificed.

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IF 2 SECOND TIER TEAMS IN THE SEC QUIT PLAYING EACH OTHER!!!!!!!!!

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GTBob….yes we in the SEC have a couple of cupcake games( Boise State sure) however other conferences(ACC) have 6 to 8 cupcakes..

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GTBob

February 8th, 2012
3:58 pm
I thought every year sucked if you were a Tech fan….

Nah, its not so bad because we never have unrealistic expectations.

Yet I am such a loser I will troll big brothers blog everyday! Get a life dude! Nobody and I mean nobody cares about GT and that 1950’s offense you run. Friggin loser! Don’t go away mad, just go away.

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GT Fan,

You lack intelligence. UGA plays GA Southern every 4 years as a matter of policy now. It’s better to give a big payday to an in-state school when you can than always to an out-of-state school. The Eagles have been wanting to play Tech for a long time and were denied despite Tech loving to bring in Furman and the Citadel. At least you guys finally broke down and scheduled them for 2015. The only reason this game was moved to later in the season is to accommodate the new SEC schedule (playing Mizzou). We’re no longer playing South Carolina as our SEC opener either so stuff is changing.

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Could we not drop Louisiana Lafayette or Arkansas State. Why give up Tech or Auburn…

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There is no reason not to go to a 9 game conference schedule. All that has to be done is each SEC school drop one of their non-conference cream puff schools that they play. Those games are so lousy they don’t even make the TV schedule so why not stop playing them?

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Tech football should be in D-II anyways with that crappy offense they run!!

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Techster,

Shouldn’t beating you guys regularly be good enough?

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This is pathetic. The Presidents and ADs refuse to go to a 9 game conference schedule b/c it will eliminate one of their 3 or 4 creampuff games that they get to schedule every year.

Hooray for scheduling East Bumblef*** U!

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Can see the Vols not playing Bama each year.

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or Boise State and SDSU in the Big East?

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The Missouri-Kansas rivalry is as old as the Georgia-Auburn rivalry.

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Necessitated?

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Cats and dogs sleeping together! What next?

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This would be a mistake of monumental proportions, and would be the final straw for a lot of people. Yeah, let’s drop the Auburn game because we can’t fit it in to the schedule, but we can still manage to play Florida Atlantic, Georgia Southern and Buffalo. Makes a lot of sense. I’m about done with all of this crap.

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as a season ticket holder since 1993, this new Athletic Director is making me want to attend less and less home games. I for one would like for you to return to Gainesville. ugh!

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I don’t believe this will happen.

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I’d trade any rivalry for a playoff, so that, the special ones (alabama) would NOT be placed in the BCS game without winning their side of the SEC west.

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Auburn and Georgia should not be sacrificed, by the way Lharding, what a moron.

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Eliminating AU-UGA and Bama-UT ought to be against the law. Something aint right about that. If Mike Slive gets those 2 games eliminated then I will personally cane pole him 4 million times.

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UGA should play AU, FL, SC, and Tech every year; and perhaps TN. These are the most important games. All other games are much less importance to the fans. I personally wouldn’t travel to Athens to see Vandy or Miss State or similar teams.

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There is no way that Alabama and Tennessee will stop playing each other. Maybe the rest of the Conference can play a 3 team rotation, but on the Third Saturday in October you will see Alabama and Tennessee playing each other. We can just rotate the other one. No team from the west gives a crap about playing Mizzou, Kentucky, USCe, or Vandy anyway.

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“Who cares about Auburn? Scam Cam!1″

Exactly why I wouldn’t mind the series ending. Leg humper fans are ignorant trash.

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Jacket Fan – those are bold words coming from the fan of a team that would NEVER make it in the SEC. How did the ACC fair in the BCS this year? Oh, that’s riiiiiiiiight…those were BOTH SEC teams in the championship.

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As an AU grad..I say keep UGA and lose Bama. AU/UGA is a heated rivalry, but not spiteful, petty and malicious, as the UAT rivalry has become.

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5150, you still hear?

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Somebody proposed the SEC changing to North and South. It is unimaginable that the SEC would include the word “North” in any conference structure. Top – Bottom, Up – Down, Left – Right, Militia – Regulars, Brave – Bold, anything but “North” and South. That would be tantamount to Blue and Gray.

Perhaps Rhett and Scarlett Divisions? Gump and Pyle? Hither and Yon?

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The Hatfields are my kin folk.

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Lol, I’m am serious though. 5150, do you have any quail on your property?

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There’s a poll on one of the Auburn forums which asks, if one rivalry must be dropped, who would you rather drop, bama or Georgia. Right now more would choose to drop bama, by a 178 to 29 vote margin.
Auburn fans enjoy the historic rivalry with Georgia and want it to continue. Longstanding rivalries with Georgia Tech, Tennessee, and Florida have already been lost.

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Whiskey–Check all SEC teams OOC schedule and let us know who has any tougher than UGA.

Bad to be sauced and not know of which you write.

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I hear you Lon Stotts (first page), I was 2 weeks from birth when my parents took me to the ‘68 Cocktail Party, a 51-0 beatdown on the Gators. I’m sure the muffled cheers of 40,000 Georgia fans and the groans of 40,000 Gator fans were quite pleasing, even if I can’t remember.

Georgia and Auburn needs to survive, but if Nebraska-Oklahoma didn’t make it, then nothing’s sacred. Nothing that happens in college football surprises me anymore. The powers-that-be seem determined to ruin a great game.

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Missouri v Kansas football rivalry dates back to the civil war. Because of politics the border was the scene of guerilla warfare. Missouri Confederate William Quantrill led the retaliation again John Brown. Not much time passed before the football rivalry replaced the actual war. A notorious Kansas coach continued to spew life and death hatred about the game as recently as a couple decades ago. One time Kansas was so desperate to keep the series close that they even brought in a ringer from Texas A&M a couple weeks before a game that decided the National Championship for #1 Missouri where Kansas was only ranked 10th. Most fans can handle the game respectfully but the ones who can’t sometime make it look like losing this oldest football rivalry might actually be positive. My feeling is that the conference should not eat up the entire year for it’s teams. Its ok if cross division games only happen every 2nd, 3rd, or 4th years, and it’s ok if rivalries only happen every other year instead of every year. What’s missing in college football are evenly matched inter-conference games during the regular season. What we have too much of are unevenly matched inter-conference games during especially the early season. A fourteen team conference is really two conferences and so is twelve team conference. It’s still cool if the divisions have some cross play but it’s shouldn’t be more than two games per year. 9,10, 11 conferences games might be too much rivalry.

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Clemson was 1-1 in the SEC. Don’t for get outscoring Auburn 31-3 from the second quarter on. And they own South Carolina 65-40-4, 6 of the las 10 and 10 of the last 15.

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Who the hell even wants to see a Texas Tech or Missouri game? Certainly not at the expense of giving up our lifelong rivalries!!!!! You’ll find few if any fans that agree with such an idiotic plan!! GO DAWGS and while you’re at it take this stupid idea and bury it out in the backyard and use it for your toilet!! Sic’em!!

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Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)
February 8th, 2012
10:45 am

@ Wreckmainiac:(10:20 am)

What are you smoking child? CMR owns Saban. Want some proof? Check out the won/lost record between CMR and Saban in head to head games.

Be sure and let us ALL know which coach has won 3 out of 4 head to head games. I would tell you but it will keep you and your single digit IQ out of our hair for a couple of days or maybe weeks.

Good luck and don’t forget to let us know what you find.
Fact: Saban has lost 3 out of 4 games when his teams have played CMR’s
Fact Debunked
2003 Sat, Sept 20 #2 LSU w17-10…Saban 1-0 Richt
2003 Sat, Dec 6 #2 LSU w34-13…Saban 2-0 Richt
2004 Sat, Oct 2 LSU L16-45…Saban 2-1 Richt
2007 Sat, Sept 22 BamaL23-26…Saban 2-2 Richt
2008 Sat, Sept 27#8 Bamaw41-30…Saban 3-2 Richt

Brainiac(Dawg for life/Richt fan for life)

Fact: Only ONE active coach in America has a winning record against CMR

Active
George O’Leary (UCF) against Richt. 1-0
Nick Saban (LSU & Bama) against Richt. 3-2
Urban Meyer (Florida) against Richt 5-2
Tom O’Brien (Boston College) against Richt 1-0
Lane Kiffin (Tennessee) against Richt 1-0
Rich Rodriguez (W. Virginia) against Richt 1-0

Not Active
Zook 2-1 against Richt

So which coach did you say has the ONLY Winning Record against Richt?

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UNC vs. Tennessee? LMAO. The game that UNC “won” by a call considered so bad that it changed NCAA rules? That game is your comparison? I’m a Tennessee fan and we haven’t been close to “middle of the pack” since LK fled in the middle of the night pilfering recruits and leaving us under investigation. We used to be elite and we will be elite again but we flat out sucked in 2010 and even then UNC only won because of a call so bad the NCAA made sure it could never happen again.

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This sucks. UGA-AU needs to be preserved. UA-UT and UF-LSU should be too.

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I hate to see this happen.
What a great rivalry we’ve had.

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We play WELL enough cupcakes to drop one and add a 9th SEC game – thus talk of dropping the Tech game cause we add an extra SEC is just a scare tactic.

What we are really asking is that instead of (out of the 4 non SEC games) can we go from perhaps one decent non-SEC game (UGA-Tech, Tenn-UCLA, Bama-Penn St, ect) and three cupcakes, moving to one extra SEC game, one decent non-SEC game, and TWO cupcakes….. sounds reasonable to me….

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This is completely shameful and more proof the powers that be COULD CARE LESS about tradition and the fans (you know the people who support this stuff) and look at TV contracts and money. McGarity should show a freaking backbone and tell every other team “sorry, on this point we aren’t negotiating”. Same with Bama/UT. To me, this would be like Harvard/Yale not playing. It’s absolute madness and sad.

All of these people making the decisions are RUINING the sport.

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Get rid of AM, Missou,S.Carolina, and Ark. Return to a real SEC conf.

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Keep Kentucky, or move Vanderbilt between Auburn and GT or just extend the season through February and play every other weekend with the conference sides playing on the others off weekend. Gives guys plenty of rest before they go kill each other again. And it gives us football for two more months.

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It’s getting to where there are NO sacred cows in college football….it’s a sad day when a rivalry like this is lost. SMH

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sting_em I don’t think that is right. The SEC will CRY even more to play as many cremepuffs so they will be Healthy for the second season/playoffs.

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Join the movement to save the game!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-the-Deep-Souths-Oldest-Rivalry/253742484700300

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Georgia vs. The Dorks
We all know the outcome years in advance, and one team’s fans never show up (even at home for free food).

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The UGA – AU game must stay. With the exception of the occasional douchenozzle AU troll, I respect Auburn. At least they can win or lose without killing trees or recording a post game sack at Krystals.

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The Deep South’s Most Futile Game (Tech)

February 10th, 2012
2:49 pm

Can we get a comment of the day button! I almost spit my water all over my computer when I read this.

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This was my only problem with SEC expansion! Why ruin a good thing? If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! We were a great conference before this blunder!! Why not have a nine game conference schedule? Who cares about going to see our team play those smaller schools that are rarely a contest that’s not what I pay my money to see! If this happens thanks for screwing up a good thing Mike Slive and whoever else had a hand in it!

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Well, I don’t want the rivalry to end. I remember sitting on the 50 yard line after the 1980 game, and our group of 4 was politely asked by the remaining security guard in the stadium if we could consider leaving. If it has to end, at least it was with a drubbing of Auburn!

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” I’d just ASSUME (?) get to see the other cross division teams more often as play them every year.”—FJR
Hmmm, so this guys a SC fan?

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I think a Alabama player said it best a few years ago ” We hate Auburn because we have to, we hate Tennesse because we want to”!
To cancel this game would be a crying sheme.

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I am 63 now and I do recall being BOTH a GT and UGA fan as a kid. My grandfather was a GT alum AND a PROF there. I leaned toward GT in HS but once I went to Athens and viewed UGA whupping NC in a regional football game, I decided that is where I would attend and so, I did for 6 years. I have never regretted this and retired at 57 to boot!!

So, GT’s biggest rivals for folks my age were ……………… UT and AU and Alabama and sometimes but not often, Florida, where Bobby Dodd’s son played third string QB.

As a young man by the time GT dropped their three big rivals………..AU and UT and sometimes Florida, they began their spiral down and except for the pro rata share of the MNC in 1990, it has been nothing exciting in GT football. I really hated seeing Tech lose Auburn and UT especially. THEY WERE HUGE GT traditions. As big nearly as UGA then.

Nowadays, UGA does not consider the GT game as of world shattering importance, like we once did, along with Auburn, Tennesse and SEC squads.

Now? GT looks to Clemson and VA tech and that is about it. Maybe, maybe NC.

UGA man
class of 71 & 73

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Spitting water all over your computer sounds about right for you.

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Will the SEC go to a nine-game conference schedule?

pfft, 9 game conference schedule? HA. If the SEC had a 9 game conference schedule we’d never see the great matchups like what we saw last year: Florida vs Furman; Alabama vs Kent State; Western Kentucky and LSU? From what I recall that was a classic game. Lets not forget UGA vs Coastal Carolina … such a memorable game, what was it … 59-0.

A 9 game conference schedule would rid us of these great matchups! So I say, drop Auburn! Coastal Carolina is where all the fun is at now

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putting missouri in the east to make alabama happy–maybe the dumbest thing I’ve seen in sports in 9 years. Auburn should be in the east, missouri in the west. Hello???? look at the map.

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Geography means nothing in sports, especially in today’s college football. I still remember when the Atlanta Falcons and Braves were stuck playing in the western divisons for years.

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George Stein, I think that the overall record of
263-130-10 (.665) all-time advantage is a more telling stat than to just pull a random year I.E. 2007.

Read more from original site: http://www.secsportsfan.com/sec-vs-acc-football.html#ixzz1mIeQOP85

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When the SEC went to 2 divisions, Auburn sacrificed its tradition of playing GA Tech ( the other long rivalry in southeast). We also lost out on a budding rivalry with FSU. Now we are told to sacrifice the longest rivalry in the southeast. Really? For what, greed of media revenue? Well why not look at the revenue generated by 110 year old tradition with two 85+K stadiums that sell out? I think that alone is good enough reason to start putting tradition and rivalries before division play. We are losing the very nature of what makes college football better than NFL. Wake up commissioners! You’re gonna kill the golden goose.

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