Falcons questions: Fixing five mistakes starts with Sam Baker

(Curtis Compton/AJC)

Thomas Dimitroff, Arthur Blank and Mike Smith face tough decisions. (Curtis Compton/AJC)

(This is the second in a series of blogs on some Falcons’ high-profile veterans and their uncertain futures with the team.)

Last week in the opener of this cyber mini-series, I looked at the possibility of the Falcons parting ways with Michael Turner, who despite finishing third in the NFL in rushing this season was showing signs of wear and might not be worth the $5 million in salary he is due next season. It stirred a lot of debate and, honestly, I was surprised by how many folks wanted him traded or cut.

Today, I’m focusing on five mistakes (or generally perceived ones). Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff hasn’t made a lot of them, but there are five high-profile ones (actually, four by Dimitroff and one by then-general manager Rich McKay). Dimitroff didn’t ask for my advice, but hey, I’m not charging or anything. This time, I’ll have a series of polls so you can weigh in with your votes on each player (I neglected to put up a poll on the Turner blog).

Since the Falcons’ No. 1 concern in my view is the offensive line, let’s start with  . . .

What to do with Sam Baker?

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What to do with Peria Jerry?

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Mistake No. 1: Tackle Sam Baker: In Dimitroff’s first draft in 2008, he traded two second-round picks (34th and 48th) and a fourth-rounder to Washington for the Redskins’ first-round pick (21st overall), third- and fifth-rounder. Baker was taken with the first pick. The thinking: He would be the left tackle to protect the blindside of the just-drafted quarterback, Matt Ryan. It’s

What to do with Dunta Robinson?

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What to do with Ray Edwards?

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hard to know how much of Baker’s problems have been because of back injuries but we know he hasn’t been good. He got beat out this season by Will Svitek. Baker has one year left on his contract at $2.576,250. With option bonuses, his cap hit next year actually would be $3.7 million. The Falcons can find a cheaper backup. Easy call: Cut him.

What to do with Ovie Mughelli?

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Mistake No. 2. Defensive tackle Peria Jerry: He was the Falcons’ first-round pick (24th overall) in 2009, getting a five-year, $10.35 million contract with $7.55 million guaranteed. He has two sacks in three seasons and, also partly because of injuries, he just hasn’t been good enough to make an impact and win a starting job. Jerry’s base salary next season is only $845,000, though he carries a cap hit of $1.95 million. Money’s really not the issue. It’s more like: How long can the Falcons wait? More than likely, they’ll see if they can do better in the offseason before making a decision. Tough call: Stall.

Mistake No. 3. Cornerback Dunta Robinson: He was signed in 2010 for six years, $57 million with $25.5 million guaranteed. As investments go, this would’ve been like if Arthur Blank expanded Home Depots to include a seafood buffet. Robinson never was known as a shut-down cornerback, but he certainly figured to be the best defensive back on the team and he hasn’t been (that’s Brent Grimes). He has a base salary of $6 million next season. I know. You think: Cut him! Not so fast. Of that $6 million, $5 million is guaranteed. Add signing bonus proration and these are your choices: $7.75 million to keep him, $$6.75 million to cut him. It’s not worth it. Painful call: Keep him.

Mistake No. 4. Defensive end Ray Edwards: He played better down the stretch but still wasn’t nearly the player the Falcons expected him to be or worth the five-year, $30 million contract. Edwards clearly was affected by his late-summer knee surgery, but to what degree? In many games he seemed to disappear. His alibi: He was doing what coaches asked him to do, which explains the low sack production (3½). If that’s true, we’ll see if things change under new defensive coordinator Mike Nolan. But like Robinson, Edwards isn’t going anywhere. The Falcons would take a $3.55 million hit just to cut him and $4.555 million if he plays. Besides, it’s too early to jump ship. Easy call: Keep him.

Mistake No. 5. Fullback Ovie Mughelli. Actually, it was then-general manager Rich McKay, at the urging of Bobby Petrino, who gave Mughelli a six-year, $18 million contract in 2007. Can he block? Yes. Did it hurt the Falcons when Mughelli was injured this season? Yes. But $3 million a year for a fullback who seldom runs or catches the ball is absurd. The cap hit will be minimal if he’s cut. The $3,733,335 hit if he plays is crazy. There are cheaper blocking backs out there. Easy call: Cut him.

There you go. The cyber-floor is yours, and the polls are up.

By Jeff Schultz

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324 comments Add your comment

Mike Hampton Owes Me Money

January 25th, 2012
1:15 pm

RISE UP!!!!!!!!

Mitchell

January 25th, 2012
1:19 pm

UGA>>>>>>>>>>tech

Snoop Naz Exp

January 25th, 2012
1:21 pm

As long as Samuel Jackson sticks around, everything will be fine.

Benny

January 25th, 2012
1:22 pm

I do not want us to cut Ovie

tgueboy

January 25th, 2012
1:25 pm

cut all on the,

tgueboy

January 25th, 2012
1:26 pm

Sad Sack

January 25th, 2012
1:26 pm

I like Ovie – maybe he would take a pay cut?

Jeff Schultz

January 25th, 2012
1:27 pm

Snoop Naz — Samuel L. Jackson is a keeper. But I think Falcons should also bring in John Travolta. Get a little Pulp Fiction thing going to shake things up.

SC

January 25th, 2012
1:28 pm

The problems in Atlanta is not the players it is the coaches. You have too play a player too his strength. Atlanta had the worse two OC & DC in the NFL this past year. I do think Sam Baker will be traded. PJ is a NT and he is in the wrong system over the years. Atlanta new DC will fix the problem and finally MR has a REALLY OC that will call the plays not MR. Atlanta must draft smart and think smart at this time

tgueboy

January 25th, 2012
1:29 pm

TD should be fired for these mishaps…. all of these guys were suppose to be the difference makers and they are all busts

tmc

January 25th, 2012
1:30 pm

tough decisions for all 5, but IMO Baker is the only sure thing cut. And you can’t use back injuries as an excuse because he had those same back issues in college. And was the reason his stock dropped as a senior. The Falcons new this and traded too much to get him… and then gave him to much money to boot.
If you can get production out of the others… that makes it a tougher call.
Baker couldn’t play tackle or guard, bye!

DaddyK

January 25th, 2012
1:31 pm

I said Baker would be a flop when he walked on the stage at draft day. I got to watch Baker prove me right for years and now he will be gone. I agree with Shiktz on these and think the Falcons have major changes to make…. Looking at you Matty Ice.

flagboy?

January 25th, 2012
1:31 pm

Falcons mortgaged the farm to get the J. Jones from Bama. . .and he’s good. . .but he isn’t worth what they gave up for him. So cut them all, but from where are the replacements going to come?

just sayin'

January 25th, 2012
1:32 pm

rise up is so lame…two years and no results…spring for something new….

Bubba Bean

January 25th, 2012
1:32 pm

It all starts and ends with the O and D line. Stopping short of bringing me and Haskel back- improve the lines.

mountain_jim

January 25th, 2012
1:34 pm

I think Dunta might actually become good with the next DC and some scheme changes to allow him to play more man coverage. I pretty much agree with Jeff’s calls here.

Zing

January 25th, 2012
1:34 pm

Never understood that Ovie contract… kept thinking in 07-08– is this guy some kind of under-the-radar superstar? Answer: Uh, no.

Sam Baker is terrible. Time to own up that you whiffed on that one, T-Dim. Cut him. Only too bad that you can’t retroactively cut him to pre-last season and dump him into a time warp.

cut 'em all...

January 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

the way to amplify a mistake is keeping them around and hoping that they will all of a sudden become the player’s you thought they were. Even undrafted free agents will more likely become top flight players before these guys.

LJ

January 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

Jeff, Yes do a pulp fiction scene that puts the “rise up” slogan to rest.

“Say ‘Rise up’ again. I dare you, I double-dog dare you” LOL

Ron

January 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

Before i address any of the players listed today i must say that trading Mike Turner is absolutely ludicrous!!! His numbers went down when Mughelli went out plus Atlanta’s o-line was suspect all season. If the Falcons let him go I promise you he will go somewhere else and lead the league in rushing. If Koetter knows how to do anything its run the ball plus this offense cant win without Turner.

Now Baker can be replaced for less. Mughelli will need to take a pay cut or be released. Edwards and Robinson were 2nd tier players signed for top-tier money but Robinson is too costly to release this season. If they can trade either player then do so but if not then keep both for another year.

I think Nolan can get more from Jerry than Van Gorder did. He can probably get more from Robinson and Edwards too but i would defer to Nolan in deciding which of these guys to keep or not. With the lack of picks due to the Julio Jones trade, they probably wont have much of an option but to keep all three.

ROD

January 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

Cut all of them, accept Ovie. You can’t find too many good fullbacks who can block in this league. Dunta can’t cover!!!! Peria and Baker are a bust. Edwards, I’m on the fence. I think he will be better with more of an off-season to heal more. I also think he will be a good fit under Mike Nolan. We need some more playmakers, PERIOD!!!!!

mark

January 25th, 2012
1:37 pm

Cut Baker no questions asked, cut Robinson suck it up take the hit find a FA replacement or see what Owens can do at corner. Nolan is going to play more bump and run and Robinson will have no part of that. Keep Jerry to see if he pans out at the money is good enough to see if he turns it around. Ovie is tough from a fan stands point b/c he is a good guy but from a money stand point cut him too much for a fullback. Cut or trade Turner, trade White.

Bill

January 25th, 2012
1:38 pm

The Falcons do not have a No.1 pick this April.They need to get tougher and more physical on both lines.They may be able to find a couple of economically smart choices to get in free agency.

LJ

January 25th, 2012
1:39 pm

Ron,

What you say about Turner is true; however, he has a history of disappearing vs. good teams. Now, perhaps that was Mularkey’s fault, or the OL, but I knew when he had that big game vs. Bucs in the finale that it was fool’s gold. If Turner is kept, he should be limited to red zone carries and 4th quarter closer. Similar to how the Cowboys used Marion Barber a few years back. If the defense is tired in the 4th quarter, there’s no way they want to see a FRESH Michael Turner running at them.

A pile of sh!t has 1,000 eyes

January 25th, 2012
1:39 pm

You think there’s anything left in Mike Kenn’s tank?

Najeh Davenpoop

January 25th, 2012
1:42 pm

Cutting players who didn’t play (Peria Jerry, Ovie Mughelli) will improve the cap situation, not necessarily the quality of the roster. The tougher questions relate to the supposedly cornerstone pieces of the team. Should the Falcons bring back Abraham and Grimes? Should they cut ties with Turner? Should they still trust that Ryan will become anything more than just a decent player?

Whopper Dawg

January 25th, 2012
1:43 pm

Interesting, by the end of the 2012 draft, TD will have had 5 drafts. In those 5 drafts, he will have had 5 first round picks. 2 of those picks should be cut. Discarded. Kicked to the curb. Not too good.

Now for the big money free agents – Turner – probably should turn the page on this one, but RBs don’t last forever, this one is a plus. TG – big win here, but it doesn’t take a genius to trade for a HOF, Robinson – forget about it, should be cut, Edwards – forget about it should be cut. So, he is batting 50% here and these are known entities. Not too good.

As for the rest of the drafts ex first round, his imminence has managed three other decent players, Lofton, Moore (if he isn’t hurt) and Peters.

And people wonder why we can’t get out of the first round.

JTH

January 25th, 2012
1:45 pm

This team sucks.

Too tough

January 25th, 2012
1:46 pm

Arthur…help us fans pleassssseeeee!~ Lets RISE UP ATL! All us fans have risen…now we need players that care, play hard all season long, and that wants to win more than grow their hair! Im just sayin!

wayne

January 25th, 2012
1:46 pm

If first or second round draft choices haven’t secured a starting job by year two, they should be cut unless salary cap prohibits. I would be willing to give Robinson and Edwards another year, with a new DC before forming an opinion on their abilities. The falcons seem to end up with a lot of injury prone players, needs to be fixed during draft process, then we don’t need to use that common phrase (we will fix it and move on) anymore during the season, it is my belief that the problems should be fixed by the time preseason games are complete.

BlacknRed

January 25th, 2012
1:46 pm

Jeff,

How much we would have to give up to get Trent Richardson, in the 1st round? Micheal Turner and Mughelli, would be good options, and may be another player?

Too tough

January 25th, 2012
1:47 pm

Jt

January 25th, 2012
1:48 pm

Jeff I am with you on each player. Going back to Turner- he MUST be kept. He is cheap. His problem is the lack of effective use- meaning that Snelling and Rogers should get more touches. Falcons need all three of them- I think cutting Turner would be a huge mistake. Baker must go. I agree about Peria Jerry- he and Edwards both need an opportunity to see if they may be more successful under a new regime. As for BVG, I cannot understand the logic of any defensive scheme which takes your best pass rusher (Abraham) and drops him into coverage. To me Dunta Robinson is a disappointment, but what is the alternative. Money has been laid out for him and when a team gives signing bonus and guaranteed salary, the longer you keep them the less the cap hit. He just needs to step hi game up-maybe that will happen under Nolan. But I say keep Mughelli- his blocking is praised by his rb’s and qb’s alike. They know. Also he is able to get a yard on 4th and one

JeanE

January 25th, 2012
1:49 pm

Time to cut Alligator Arms Baker. I agree on the rest although despite the fact that Ovie is expensive, I think he’s good and we suffered when he was out. I am not impressed at all with Dimitroff’s personnel moves. He & Smitty have 1 year to turn it around and make some progress or they should be out. I get sick every time I think about our postseason regression, it is disgusting. This team has no heart, no fire, nothing. I still think Tony is a top level player but he must be sick thinking he came here to win and look at us. I just think there’s some talent but the chemistry on this team is way off. There is none! I hope these coordinators came make the same difference that Harbaugh made in SF in one season.

Mediocrity continues...

January 25th, 2012
1:49 pm

Robinson and Baker are complete Jokes. Edwards was a serviceable run stopper at DE but ZERO pass rush from him.

Die Hard Falcon

January 25th, 2012
1:52 pm

Mr. Schultz–

I agree w/ your call on all but one, Ovie, I think he is important to our running game and the brass made it clear they still want to impose the running game moving forward. Especially on those 4 and 1’s (ouch).

I would’ve liked for them to have frontloaded more of the guaranteed money w/ DRob, but as the situation stands we have to keep him, no reason to pay 6.75million for nothing, perhaps the new scheme will provide better results anyway.
Edwards, I think is definitely worth 1 or 2 more seasons, especially considering we’re on the hook anyway, perhaps he’ll be more productive in the new scheme and a full offseason.

Schultzie — Any chance your future in this series includes Lofton, Abe, Grimes, Biermann, HD, etc? I know the Bird Cage had a thread about it, just curious to see your thoughts and any info on our FA’s moving forward. Also, do you know if we let Grimes walk, would we get a 3rd rd compensatory pick next year? Any talk about Franchising anyone (Lofton, Grimes) to keep them or use them as trade bait?

Thanks, Go Falcons!

Andy

January 25th, 2012
1:56 pm

Robinson is the most painful decision of all. What a terrible bust he has been but given the economics of it I guess you have to keep him. Can’t wait for him to be gone!

Ease

January 25th, 2012
1:58 pm

The reason the running game has been above average last several years has been because of Mughelli. Beast of a blocker. Plus he is another victim of the anti-screen pass mentality. Him in the backfield with any one of Turner/Snelling/Rodgers…is he gonna block or release? Another dimension to the passing game.

Trainwreck

January 25th, 2012
1:59 pm

I like your reasoning Jeff. I expect bigger things from Dunta and Ray this year. Baker & Jerry should probably go. Ovie is good and I like him, but that is a valid point about paying a blocking back all that money. 4 verticals doesn’t sound like a FB friendly offense to me.

Dirtybird 82

January 25th, 2012
2:01 pm

Trade White?? Are you crazy?! He had 1 bad season, which still produced 100 catches, 8TD’s, and close to 1,300yds. Next year you will see Roddy have a monster year with an offesive system that will allow him to make catches on the run and not having to stop and go all the time. Roddy and Julio, and hopefully Harry will be here too, will have big seasons. Watch!

jon

January 25th, 2012
2:10 pm

regardless of cap hit, I would definitley cut Robinson, he can’t cover my grandmother who is dead, lol. We were defintley hurt by Ovie’s injury but if the line can’t block it doesn’t matter. I remember when our Halfback in 98 got hurt and we survived (thanks to kowslowski)Sam Baker is definitley affected by injury, he was once the best on the line and you never heard his name. The defensive tackle is just a bust!

Jimmy Crack

January 25th, 2012
2:11 pm

Jeff, you’re on the money with all but Mughelli. Ovie is the preeminent blocking fullback in the league and has actually been highly productive in the short passing game despite the ridiculous aversion to screen passes that Mularkey professed. On this roster with all the bad money being spent, this is good money. The guy is a true beast and is feared by all NFL linebackers. Look at our short yardage failures this season. Do you remember those when he was healthy?

biff pocaroba

January 25th, 2012
2:11 pm

thomas the twerp is the problem,he is like jon schuerholtz was when he was with the braves ,always trying to prove they are the smartest guys in the room,and ending up making stupid trades thet mortgaged the future

Therut

January 25th, 2012
2:14 pm

I have a friend out there (at least one) who knows that I told him when we drafted Matt Ryan, that he would never be anything more than average. I watched him play against Ga. Tech in college and he did nothing to get my attention. bottom line, no mobility. Keep Edwards

Die Hard Falcon

January 25th, 2012
2:14 pm

I agree Dirtybird82–

No way should we trade White, he’s a top talent at WR position, I realize he had some mental mistakes which led to costly drops, but 215 catches in the last 2 years and over 2500 yds, it would be absolutely foolish to trade him unless we can get Jerry Jones to do another Roy Williams trade and give up a 1, 3, and 6 for him. White is solid, top 10 WR in the game, it would be dumb to trade him now, next year another year of Julio w/ a full offseason, we’ll have a beastly group

WJH

January 25th, 2012
2:14 pm

This is easy – cut baker and get some decent blocking, draft, free agent, what ever – get some blocking. I thing Jerry needs one more year. Ovie’s knees may have ended his career so listen to the doctors, if bad cut him. If ovie is cut keep Turner, if Ovie’s knees are good trade Turner for some blocking.

jon

January 25th, 2012
2:15 pm

… easy on the schuerholtz thing…. r we the team that was successful for 14 years without him?

Jimmy Crack

January 25th, 2012
2:15 pm

Got short yardage problems?

Can’t break through that clogged line?

GET OVIE ROOTER!

jgsbirds

January 25th, 2012
2:16 pm

what about moving dunta to safety? is there a free agent corner out there worth a look?

t_height

January 25th, 2012
2:17 pm

Trading Mike Turner would be crazy. If you actually watched the plays and not just the games you would see that the run play call usually were find a hole and hit it. There was never any plays with pulling guards and very few with the line know exactly who to block instead of just the person in front of them. These are reason why the team could never successfully get the short yardage needed.

Anthony Turner

January 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

I am sorry Mr. Schults but, the Falcons do not want cut Ovie Mugehlli . That would be a mistake. He is one of the best lead blockers in the N.F.L. Watch some of past games when he wasn’t hurt & playing, you will see that he is one of the best @ putting crushing blocks on linebackers. Turner would have gotten a lot more yards had ovie been in there blocking for him. Especiially on the 4th. inches. I know you say that we can draft a full back to block for our backs, but there is no one that does it better than ovie.

t_height

January 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

@jgsbirds: Dude i’ve been saying that all year. Dunta can actually hit and he loves playing cover 3. He would be really good at the position.

freddy

January 25th, 2012
2:19 pm

Baker sucks…
Let Turner go!

Texas Pete

January 25th, 2012
2:20 pm

I wouldn’t care how much money you’d lose cutting Robinson. I can’t stand to watch him miss tackle after tackle. He plays like a girl. Atlanta has the worst pass defense on third downs in the league. Robinson has got to go no matter how much it costs.

Die Hard Falcon

January 25th, 2012
2:20 pm

@Therut

I know there are a ton of falcon fans who for one reason or another don’t belive in Matt Ryan, but in looking at the stats, at empirical data, I just don’t see why people are so down on him. I agree in the 3 playoff games, he’s not shown up, but neither has the team, coaches and all either, I don’t place all the blame on him, plus that’s only 3 games. Everything else, (Regular Season) shows that he’s in the top 10 in the NFL, to me that’s better than average. Not elite to be sure, but certainly better than at least 22 other teams have. I think we’re alright at QB.

Supes

January 25th, 2012
2:21 pm

Jeff,

your piece is entertaining and a fun read but it’s not “practical”.

Falcons can’t “dump” Robinson with Grimes hitting FA…there is already a lot of uncertainty in the secondary…same thing can be said for Edwards being “dumped” b/c John Abraham is a FA as well…so it all depends on what the FALCONS do with those other 2 guys that will directly affect Robinson & Edwards. If you tell me the FALCONS keep both Grimes and Abraham…by all means “dump” Robinson & Edwards…if not you keep them.

Sam Baker is a sure thing dump…bust by all means for being a 1st rounder…judging by his play he’s at best a 5th round pick (if you draft him again)

Jerry…the verdict is still out as he’s missed a large portion of playing time due to injury…I feel like this is 2012 will be the last year that the organization is going to “stick with him” and see if they can get even a rotational DT job out of him…but for a 1st round pick he’s been a bust (so far).

Ovie…it all depends on what they wanna do with the offense. If they follow where the MOST successful teams are going, they’ll have to let Ovie go…and just do away with the FB position and run a lot more 3 WR and 1 RB sets.

falcon057

January 25th, 2012
2:22 pm

What about Babs how can that 5 mill cap hit for 1 sack and 26 tackles look good!

QB/DB

January 25th, 2012
2:22 pm

You love to stir things up. It is a wonder players speak to you/ what I’m scared of truthfully the Birds were not that far away. A few more players with what they had and a break on injuries and the SUPER BOWL is ours. But you fail to address the inadequete drafting and getting the RIGHT free agents, staying with some less then average players toooooo long. Drafting a few players two rounds too high. Losing Olvie hurt them in the playofffs. I think we would have made a few 4th and ones. If he is healthy they need to keep him. I agree maybe we need to take a chance and get a few mean types.

Billy

January 25th, 2012
2:26 pm

I would use Baker’s money to get one these really good FA offensive lineman, when your offensive line gets knocked back 2 yards on run plays and the lineman get bull rushed into your quarterback you have got problems. All you brilliant football minds instead of firing coaches and releasing players answer this question if get rid of the coaching staff who are going to get to replace them that will get to the next level. If we cut Matt Ryan who do suggest for Quarterback Chris Redman do you think Mike Vick is going to come back? I am have been a Falcon fan since they started and I was 6 years old I remembered all those bad QB we have had except for Bartkowski( whose career was cut short by horrible offensive line in the beginning and then at the end when Henning traded them to Washington) Ryan is a good QB he needs blocking.

R.Z,

January 25th, 2012
2:26 pm

REMEMBER GEORGIA FORCE??? SAM BAKER’S DAD USED TO COACH THE TEAM. ACTUALY MR.BLANK HIMSELF HAD ALOT TO DO WITH SAM BAKER’S CHOICE AT NUMBER 19, NOT T.D!!!! POOR CHOICE

F cubed

January 25th, 2012
2:28 pm

Keep Ovie, he makes all RB’s better.

Cut Baker, he was a reach that never managed to exceed meager expectations.

Keep D-Rob, his lack of production may be schematically inevitable. Give him an NFL D-Coordinator along with some better supporting players in the secondary and see what he can do.

Peria deserves another year, but this is it. There are other, more critical holes to fill than his reserve DT spot. Again, coaching may help.

Ray Edwards fills a niche, he helps with the run. Rotating him with Biermann (pass downs) should be adequate IF we do better in other areas. Keep him.

Not that TD asked me, mind you. Or should.

SawThat1nce

January 25th, 2012
2:28 pm

Shultz, why do you seem to always let Dimitroff off of the hook, when you are playing the blame game with the Falcons?
Why in the heck did he pass on the Packer’s Mathews to draft Jerry, a player that had injury issues in the NCAA?,

nash

January 25th, 2012
2:33 pm

There is another d or o tackle to be had in the second or third round of the draft that can match Baker and, Jerry production. I say dump both

Big Crimson 75

January 25th, 2012
2:34 pm

cut baker – cut jerry — thanks genius GM.
cut robinson — keep edwards.
cut/re-sign ovie — no one will out bid the falcons for him coming off injury.
must re-sign loftin.
fix the lines in the off season!

t_height

January 25th, 2012
2:34 pm

@Die Hard FalconFan: Your problem is that you are doing exactly what all of the outsiders are doing to rate MR. You and everyone else is checking out the stats. Stats don’t actually show how you really look on the field. Stats is one reason why Brent Grimes didn’t get a bid to the Pro Bowl. If you actually watched his games, most teams never went his direction and when they did, he was usually right there for the tackle, knock down or interception. Matt Ryan looks horrible in most games he play. His accuracy is way off, strength is very weak, and he don’t know how to read defense nor look off defenders. He is very lucky to have some athletic receivers.

R.Z,

January 25th, 2012
2:39 pm

JUST LOOK AND SEE HOW NEW ENGLAND DRAFTS EVERY YEAR COMPARING TO FALCONS!!!!!! T.D. , WAS N’T HE SUPPOSE TO BE THE SMART GUY? THERE ALOT OF US THAT ON DRAFT DAY, CAN DRAFT BETTER THAN T.D. JERRY FOR MATHEWS!!!!!SHAME SHAME SHAME

Die Hard Falcon

January 25th, 2012
2:42 pm

@t_height –

There’s really no way to argue against someone’s perception of how someone “looks” during a game. If his accuracy was that terrible the stats would bear witness to that, I have also seen Matt lead us to many 4th qtr comebacks and I’ve watched every game in his career w/ us, I guess my perception is different. I do also think if he had a line like Brady or Brees have, that he’d be up near the elite category but I won’t argue it, b/c I cannot prove it, it’s only my opinion. I still can’t justify all the muckraking done to him when it’s based soley on perception. I believe in him and the Falcons, and I’m going to until someone can come up w/ an empirical argument based in reality. Otherwise, everyone can be happy in their perception and I’ll be happy in mine, and I hope the changes we make and the continued progression of Matt prove the doubters wrong

Until then…Go Falcons! Go MR2!

t_height

January 25th, 2012
2:43 pm

@falcons057: If you know a little about football you would know that interior lineman don’t make many tackle but they are draw double teams, put pressure up the middle to support and open hole for the LB’s. Babs was a major cause for one of the best run defenses in the league. His numbers will go up a lot if the team gets someone help him out.

J_ATL

January 25th, 2012
2:43 pm

Have you ever noticed that we continue to stay average on both sides of the ball despite the talent we have? It’s due to our staff and the fact that they want choir boys instead of ballers. Thats why we pass up on good talent to take someone who will be a good locker room fit but can’t perform on the field. I have lost all faith in this front office that they will do the right thing in order for us to win. Too many draft busts, players with no heart, coaches who don’t have a clue as to what they are doing. If they did, then MM would have been gone last season and BVG would never been our DC. And as good as he is, Tony G should not be our best TE at this point in his career. We have zero depth at almost every position. That is a problem, and until Blank can realize that, we will never win a ring. Don’t mean to sound negative but often times the truth hurts. Baker + Jerry = cut. Edwards + D Rob = keep. Ovie = restructure his contract since he’s coming off of injury.

t_height

January 25th, 2012
2:49 pm

@Die Hard Falcon

I’m praying for the samething. I’m glad you believe in every player on the team also. only if they could live up to the hype.

Trapper John

January 25th, 2012
2:50 pm

Keep Olvi. 3 million to Blank is like 3 cents in your pocket Jeffrey. Dunta is designed to be a man on man cover corner. Not a soft zone guy. Keep him. Baker is a mystery. Must be back problems or something. USC football factory guy that didn’t pan out. Should have been an anchor for 15 years on the line. (like Kunz!) Turner I would trade right now. Never will he have higher value, but he is old and slowing down by the second. Dupe some hungry team now and get some draft picks for him. Trade Mike Smith to the Jaquars for a cup of gatorade. Please. Hey, we’re good to go!!

Twest

January 25th, 2012
2:50 pm

Jeffery O’ great and powerful scribe your knowledge is too great for me. For who can stand before your mighty pen (or keypad) O’ wise and powerful one. This Jeff maybe your best work yet! I have been screaming at the TV for a year and a half with Baker and Robinson. If….If you want Ryan alive you have to get rid of Baker. Robinson can’t cover a snail, how many catches would A J Green have on him in single coverage? A gazillion? The greatest need is to get Dahl back and ship the rest of the no-blocking-my-little-pony-playin offensive line ouuta here. Peace Jeffery Dos I’m Out!

Joe Tess Fish House

January 25th, 2012
2:54 pm

How long have I ben sayin the Flacons need 2 cut that looser Perrier Jerry. All of U maid fun of me 4 saying this and now Mr Schutlz agree with me.

Whose the moran now?

CAPT-ATL

January 25th, 2012
2:54 pm

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monty

January 25th, 2012
2:55 pm

Yeh, the Matthews pass hurts. TD is no genius, looks like he’s about avg. to me. Witherspoon looks like a good one, probably Jones but Robinson, Jerry and Ray Edwards? Poor decisions. Looks like a crap shoot.

Hillbilly D

January 25th, 2012
2:56 pm

I wonder if Jeff Van Note, R C Theilman, Mike Kenn and Warren Bryant have any sons that play football.

Joe Tess Fish House

January 25th, 2012
2:58 pm

I aslo say cut Donta Roberson. He is another looser the Flacons got stuk with. The guy is always getting beet. Take the cap hit and move on

Joe Tess Fish House

January 25th, 2012
2:59 pm

He is aslo a cheep shot artest.

Trade 4 Tim Teabow

January 25th, 2012
3:03 pm

He Jeff N E word on if the Flacons will trade 4 Time Teabow?

jerry

January 25th, 2012
3:07 pm

Just going by the Ovie deal, don’t let McKay anywhere near the “war room” on draft day. Every player on the offense should represent some type of offensive threat, which I never saw Ovie present. Ridiculous.

falcon057

January 25th, 2012
3:11 pm

t_height

Lets look at Walker 18 tackles and 2 sacks $600,000? Lets look at Peters 26 tackles (down from 40) and 3sacks (?1 mill). Babs has the lowest total besides Jerry of all Rotation guys. I guess you can justify 5.7 mill ,but I can’t. I’d bet we could find for 6 mill that big DT that would free up LB and DE that anit happen! 6 mill for a 31 year old DT. 10 mill for Abe a 35 year old to play maybe 20 % of the plays and we wonder why we have cap problems. That’s a problem that doesn’t get better with age. Make the move one year too early than 1 too late.

JSS

January 25th, 2012
3:11 pm

Well, I heard the sun finally came out back in Georgia… So, now that pesky salary cap has finally slapped you in the face? Been telling you since Baker’s first season to move him inside, he was not an NFL tackle with the Falcons set up and lack of overall line strength nor power!

I’m always stunned by the lack of flexibility and imagination in the use of players by the Falcons or their fans. You don’t want to take a cap hit on Robinson this upcoming season. That is insane when you have to sign a replacement for Grimes, Abraham, or possibly Lofton. Move Robinson to Free Safety or a hybrid position like the Eagles or Packers use.

Dahl is not coming back, you folks need to get over him and demand more from what you have.

I’ve said it before about Jerry. He’s neither strong or reliable enough for you folks to be getting into a tight over.

Now, back to my vacation, vaya en paz!

Greg

January 25th, 2012
3:12 pm

Nice article, Jeff. One thing you don’t keep Dunte because you’d lose a lot of money and get nothing for it by cutting him. We’re not in it to spend as little money as we can; we’re in it to win. DR is one of the worst corners I saw this year. Not only was he consistently beaten in man coverage (on every length of pass route, short, medium, and long), he was also a piss-poor tackler. That last weakness is just inexcusable. He hurt us over and over and over again. He will not be on the team next season.

BTW, I distinctly remember Mel Kiper (I know, I know) saying that the Falcons were crazy for giving up so much to move up to the 1st round to get Baker, when Mel had him as a second-round pick anyway. Mel was sure right about this one!

CAPT-ATL

January 25th, 2012
3:17 pm

Turner and Ovie?? I just dont see the new OC running a 2 back offense enough to justify over 10 million between those 2. I’d look for TD to re-sign Snelling and try to move Turner who has trouble blocking and the hands of a brick layer. Baker? Tough call there. If we can land Nicks from NO, then cut him and his salary, if not…..is there a chance that Paul Bodreau’s teaching technique may have set him back? I’d say, give him a chance in camp with a new OL coach, if he does well, go with it. If not…. C ya and give Johnson a shot! Dunta? Have to keep him. He was never given a chance to play to his strength which is “in your face” physical coverage, not the soft zone crap that gives the reciever an arena style running start. Then we get the guy we paid for. he will revert to the CB he was in Houston. Jerry? In fairness, he has been injured alot. Gotta give him another camp and roll the dice. Gotta give Ray Edwards another shot as well.

Walker, Texas Ranger

January 25th, 2012
3:21 pm

At first glance I thought that cutting Ovie was crazy but a backup guard can do the same thing that he does. He is very limited out of the backfield or just not utilized. I think he can catch the ball, maybe with a screen game, he will get the opportunity.

PUBLIC ENEMY #1

January 25th, 2012
3:21 pm

At least Schultz is calling it out and not being a pansie giving passes..

Noter should be in the HOF

January 25th, 2012
3:30 pm

I knew we should’ve kept Dahl. Now we need a guard, a backup tackle, and a center. I think the toughest call of all is Ovie. Dunta would seem to be easily replaced for that kind of cash, but he would be the next hardest call. The others on the list would be gone, if I were GM. I’d release Turner, as well. If we are going to be a power team, we need a back that can get power yards. Michael Turner was a very good back, very good, his first year here. I think he’s been overpaid since.

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trademark

January 25th, 2012
3:32 pm

I’m still of the opinion that Dunta Robinson will do a lot better in an aggressive, man scheme than in a zone. His list of fines at the very least proves it….

PMC

January 25th, 2012
3:33 pm

I don’t see how you can categorize Ovie Mughelli as a mistake. There are a lot more mistakes than paying a guy 3 million to be the hole opener for Michael Turner. Turners numbers are a LOT better with Ovie.

I look at the cornerback and offensive line misses in the draft or Thomas Decoud’s errors as more mistakes than Ovie. Ovie has been awesome on field and off.

Falconsfan13

January 25th, 2012
3:35 pm

I was just thinking to myself that two of our biggest problems lie on the O-line and D-line. O-line is pretty weak, so D-line doesn’t go against adequate opponents in practice and D-line is subpar so O-line gets no challenge. Both units need more talent to practice against so that they are better prepped for other teams, particularly the elite teams. RISE UP DIRTY BIRDS!!!!

PMC

January 25th, 2012
3:36 pm

I’m not sure outside of one brilliant blitz in New Orleans that Thomas Decoud has EVER taken a good angle on a play.

Chris Owens is good at running guys down, bad news, he gets a lot of practice at it.

Why was Kerry Meier drafted? Shann Schillinger? We started Spencer Atkins in a freaking playoff game at linebacker.

Our depth is wretched in some spots.

What about the 6th round draft pick waste on a freaking punter?????

Puma

January 25th, 2012
3:37 pm

Hate to say it, but agree with all 5 of Schultz’ assessments…scary.

PMC

January 25th, 2012
3:37 pm

Would MUCH rather see Dunta Robinson play free safety, that fits the way he plays much more anyway.

chipper's ACL

January 25th, 2012
3:41 pm

If I recall correctly when Tommy D was brought in as GM, the plan was to build a franchise mirroring New England. His specialty was scouting and drafting. If I recall NE trades down for picks with the thought quantity and proper scouting is better than high pick “quality”. They will consistantly have double digit picks and most end up having value. When vets age, become too costly, or do not produce they are cut. This is not what has taken place in Falcons country. Trading up for Baker, 5 picks for JJ, not something you’d expect. How many other teams have drafted WR’s in the first round the last couple of years? Only one. For every Calvin Johnson there’s a Welker or Cruz. If it’s the year for change, lets start at how the fundamentals are put together.

The Falconator

January 25th, 2012
3:41 pm

Baker and Jerry were injury pre-busts in college and TD should have known it. Neither has the stamina or ferocity required to make it in the pros. I like Ovie, but didn’t realize his deal is so rich. Too many bucks for a blocking back. What was TD thinking? Cap room is precious in this game! We need to see what Dunta can do in a different scheme with another DC. Based on 2011, I’m not wild about Edwards, but Falcs are stuck. This team is like driving a fairly late model car that has lost considerable luster. New paint won’t cut it. Major parts need an overhaul by new mechanics who have neither draft choices nor much cap room to do the job. Worse, recent history suggests TD may not be up to the job.

woeismesince66

January 25th, 2012
3:47 pm

Cut the whole team fire all the coaches find a new owner. How’s that for change?

Bruce Mac

January 25th, 2012
3:56 pm

It’s Atlanta dude, doesn’t matter what moves the Falcons make, we stink and will continue the same. In my next life I am going to be a Yankees and Patriots fan. Atlanta pro sports teams = perpetual mediocrity.

Walter R. Terrell

January 25th, 2012
4:06 pm

Ovie is a keeper, also, he can catch the ball out of the backfield, he’s a power back that should have been used more. The Falcons were predictable because they did not use a lot of their talent. Keep Ovie and have the other fullback block for him and vice versa, it’s an option that can be used and effective. A good offensive line and two power backs can add a few more plays that Matt can use and could be high precentage plays.

Dunta needs another defensive scheme, I think he would do much better then the one he’s played under since he’s been a Falcon. Personally, I think Jerry could be one helluva defensive end, worth a try, the guy is “Bullstrong”, we need push, he would rule most tackles on a one on one basis. Baker might as well be beefed up and let him play guard, 10lbs of muscle an 10 more pounds of weight and we could see a diff in his play, that 20 extra pounds could be a blessing for him and Ray will bring some Big Play to us in the coming season, just keeping him healthy is the deal.

Yes, we need a few upgrades, a big, bullstrong 345 nose tackle that occupys a minimum of 2 blockers would do a world of good for Peters and Babineaux and some added beef on the “O” line would not hurt. The secondary is really not a bad one and if Decoud departs it will still be a solid unit. We have a proven defensive coach who has some exceptional and decent talent to work with. The pieces on both sides of the ball are there, now it’s just a matter of using the talent and the right schemes.

Ichabod

January 25th, 2012
4:13 pm

And the winners of our talent show are: Michael Boley, Koenan, and Dahl. Ooops!

King Peter

January 25th, 2012
4:13 pm

The Falcons are a mess,brought on by TDs trades and drafts,and FA signing.Bringing Ewards here was a mistake,he has kill’ed the kimistry of the Falcons,and has rubbed off on abe, and a lot of the other players.Thier is no fire or desire on this team.i believe that mike Smith has lost touch with his players,and that does not bid well for next season.Go Falcons.and clean house

mark

January 25th, 2012
4:15 pm

cut baker n jerry big big mistakes!!! i would like to keep ovie that guy block as hard as hell! so dont be cheap! plus we have the worst FA signs we r starting to look as the redskins here!

King Peter

January 25th, 2012
4:16 pm

Nobody on the falcons should be a keeper,out with the old,and bring the new!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

January 25th, 2012
4:21 pm

JS- tough call on Ovie. What says you?? Do you think if Ovie was healthy, would the Falcons have made those three crucial 4 & 1s this year??? My guess is at least 2 out of 3. Cut Sam & Peria for sure!!

BDGIBSON

January 25th, 2012
4:21 pm

Where is matt ryan on this list? we need a winner in atl and it starts at QB… a hurt peyton manning is better than a healthy matt ryan. lets make it happen

Cornell Sims

January 25th, 2012
4:23 pm

We can cut Sam Baker, Give Peria Jerry another year in hopes of a break out year under Mike Nolan. I defensive coordinator who seems to get the most out of his players, Keep Daunte Robinson. I think Daunte is a good cornerback he just wasn’t being used in the right way. They was not allowing him to play to his strengths. He is not a zone corner. He is a bump n run man to man cover corner. If Mike Nolan sticks to his words he will allow Daunte to play to his strengths, Keep Ray Edwards, I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt even though I didn’t want him as a free agent but again lets see how he does under Mike Nolan, Cut Ovei Mughili, to much money for a full back, I would rather resign snelling and have him play fullback. Atleast your getting versatility at the fullback position.

Bob

January 25th, 2012
4:25 pm

Sounds like Tommy Dimitroff is the Falcons version of Omar Minayata (sp?), formerly of the Mets. Both find it easy to spend/waste other folks money and get zilch in return. Maybe Tommy D needs to go…just saying.

Matt "CHOKE" Ryan

January 25th, 2012
4:26 pm

Ryan Leaf on being a bust:

“At least I didnt lose 3straight playoff games”

HA HA HA :)

ernisTbass

January 25th, 2012
4:32 pm

if the Knock on Ovie is that he doesn’t carry the ball or catch passes, er uh maybe it’s because he was never given the opportunity to do either. I feel like he has a much better shot at fourth and one than the Dancer, Ovie knows how to run over somebody other than a DB after he gets moving full speed

Loyal Falcon

January 25th, 2012
4:39 pm

I’m sick of the whole rise up thing. It’s time for something else.

Tom G

January 25th, 2012
4:39 pm

I agree with you on all five, money could be better spent on obtaining a quality defensive front four like the NY Giants! That is the biggest reason they are in this Super Bowl run, + Eli Manning smarts!!

sainthiram

January 25th, 2012
4:39 pm

why wasn’t smitty , the peroxide bandit , on the keep / dump list ? or is it just a given that the dump column would exceed capacity ?

King Peter

January 25th, 2012
4:41 pm

Bob-right on!

Ted M

January 25th, 2012
4:42 pm

I hate those rise up commercials almost as much as I hate the Falcons playoff performance.

Ted M

January 25th, 2012
4:46 pm

I hate to be a “Debbie Downer” but the Falcons gonna be 7-9 next season.

Falcons4life

January 25th, 2012
4:53 pm

If Brent Grimes leaves in FA. Then there is no way we can cut Dunta Robinson.
We cant lose both starting corners in the same year.

Brownie

January 25th, 2012
4:53 pm

Baker: NOT a top tier LT, so obviously a miss. However, we don’t have a decent right guard – can he transition? He would also still provide at least average play at LT in a pinch. If the answer is that he’s no better than Hawley or Reynolds, then so long.

Jerry: this is a layup – got to go.

Dunta: how does he go from pretty good at Houston to god-awful here?? got his money, and mailed it in? I’m willing to give him one more year under Nolan’s better scheme.

Edwards: keep him – we know he can play; same questions as with Dunta – same expectations of improvement with Nolan. Also, coming off knee surgery, you have to believe he lost strength and explosiveness.

Ovie: Buh-bye. We don’t even need a fullback. The problem with Turner declining in the latter half of ‘11 wasn’t just Ovie being gone…it was because he’s fat and worn down. Turner needs to show up at SPRING practice at around 230 lbs. or so – he’s too old to carry the weight anymore – absolutely has NO lateral movement at all anymore. You could bring in TWO Ovie’s and Turner still is just gonna run into the backs of our offensive linemen

Barry

January 25th, 2012
4:57 pm

Hey Y’all:

since we are talking about upgrading of players, one player that needs upgrading is Michael Turner. The upgrading he can do himself. The guy is too fat and is not lean and fast as other backs in the leaugue. He does not run aggressively with the ball. Just look at the GIANTs running backs and the Niners running backs. Those guys were aggressively running as if their lives depended on it. Mike Turner is a lazy runner, He needs to correct that in the off season.

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Brownie

January 25th, 2012
4:58 pm

Or should I say Turner will just “tip toe” into the backs of the O linemen. sure seemed like the most unproductive 1340 yds ever last season. At crunch time in the playoffs, Turner disappears (always under 50 yards). That could be him, or O linemen, or scheme, or all of the above. But for sure it’s not working with him.

combination of Snelling and Rodgers would be just as good and more flexible – tougher to defend

Falcons4life

January 25th, 2012
5:06 pm

@Brownie
Falcons tried Baker at RG at the panthers, for a series. And after that one series I don’t think they will try him at RG again. lol

Casey

January 25th, 2012
5:06 pm

I Ovie was in there we would’ve converted more 4th and 1’s… A LOT more. Keep him.

Steve-O

January 25th, 2012
5:10 pm

Love all the Coke truck drivers, cube jockeys, and plumbers that post here that CLEARLY know so much for that Dimitroff. You guys should apply for the job and see how much you really know.

Joshua Malavenda

January 25th, 2012
5:11 pm

Here a couple things that falcons should do in the offseason
* = dunta robinson trade **= Peria Jerry trade ***= 3rd Compensation pick for dahl ****trade Micheal turner for a 3 and 4 rd pick
1. Hire a great secondary coach
2. Hire Mike Singletary as the lb coach and assistant to Nolan
3. Hire Howard Mudd as the O-line coach
4. Hire Tom Clements as qb coach
5. Trade Dante Robinson for a 2rd and 4rd pick or turn him into run stopping safety to make use of his great tackling ablity .
6. Let Snelling go in free agency
7. Sign Mike Tolbert in Free agency to replace snelling
8. trade Peria Jerry for a 5th rd pick
9. Resign Bierman and turn him into situational rush lb
10. Resign Curtis Lofton
11Draft either shea Mclellin or Audie Cole in the 4th rd.
12. Draft Coby Fleener 2nd rd
13. Sign Mario Williams or Cliff Anvill
14. Resign Abs to a one year contract
15. Resign Harry Douglass.
16. Draft Josh Norman or ryan stead in 3rd
17.Sign Chase Ford as undrafted fa
18. Draft Zebrie Sanders in 2nd rd*
19. Draft Ben Jones in 3rd***
20 Draft Tyrone Crawford in the 6th rd
21.draft William Vlachios in the 7th rd
22. Draft Ryan Broyles in 5th rd
23. Sign Matt Forte in free agency
24.**** Draft markelle Martin in 3rd rd
25. Let Decoup walk in free agency
26. sign Carl nicks in free agency
27**** draft Mike martin in 4th rd
28. ** Draft ryan miller 5th rd
29.Sign Jeff adams as unsigned fa
30. trade baker for 6 or 7th rd pick

what do you think ?

Steve-O

January 25th, 2012
5:18 pm

Matt “CHOKE” Ryan

January 25th, 2012
4:26 pm

Ryan Leaf on being a bust:

“At least I didnt lose 3straight playoff games”

HA HA HA :)
__________________________________________________________________________________

That’s because he never even smelled the playoffs, much less played in a game. Your trolling is tiresome.

BiggDawgK

January 25th, 2012
5:23 pm

The falcons are notoriously bad at picking in the first round.

Birrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd Man

January 25th, 2012
5:25 pm

Baker is history in my book…as well as our $3 mil fullback. Turner may be the burner, but only after about 5 yards past the line of scrimmage untouched. Try to get something for him.

BiggDawgK

January 25th, 2012
5:27 pm

matt “choke” ryan is a pahtetic little nothing who is also a taint’s fan. I guess pathetic little nothing is synonymous with everyone in new orleans as long as you add drunk and disease ridden

bigdon

January 25th, 2012
5:29 pm

Baker’s gone. Done. Ka-pooey. Edwards needs to stay. Who have we got if Abe splits? I think
L Sid should be given more time. Hell, he had second most sacks (4) with a third of the playing time.
Beerman should stay because every team needs an undersized overachieving white guy. See Patriots. They’ve got a slew of them. Everybody keeps saying Grimes is going to ask for the moon but I haven’te seen any figures. He is a keeper if at all possible. I’m ambivalent about Olvie. All I know for sure is I wouldn’t want to get in a bar room brawl with him. Turner will have his best year
of his career if we cut him and his worst as a Falcon if we keep him. Keep Abe on franchinse for one more season. Jerry is a fairy and has shown less than nothing. And I hate to say it, but if TD
screws the draft pooch one more time it may be time to cut your losses on him. Seems like a great guy but damn he’s made some goofs.

I'm better than McKay was....

January 25th, 2012
5:34 pm

I thought Baker was a R.McKay deal……same year as the Jamaal Anderson bust. No?
Either way Falcons need new bodies on O-Line….until then we’re stuck with him.

I'm better than McKay was....

January 25th, 2012
5:36 pm

Jeff, you definitely hit it right with this list…..time to make amends.

B-man

January 25th, 2012
5:36 pm

You “fire Dimitroff” people are killing me. Look at the track record of any GM in the league. There are always players that don’t work out, even consensus # 1 picks. You all focus on the mistakes, but, there are many positives. Lofton, Weatherspoon, Julio, bringing in Svitek to work hard and earn a job, Matt Ryan, finding guys like James Sanders in FA., Quizz, etc. Even Bierman who is no superstar, but a good quality NFL player who came from a very late round. And my favorite Cory Peters who is a much better player than anyone expected. I believe the problems were in the schemes and playcalling and not the talent. Next year I hope to see more screen passes to quizz (ala darren sproles) and I want to see Spoon coming off the edge like Lawrence Taylor. Watch the games, Spoon could easily do what Clay Mathews does in Green Bay, we just have to turn him loose.

Matty Melt

January 25th, 2012
5:41 pm

I few more of my meltdowns in relevant games and I’m gonna be on Schultz’s gone list. There’s champs and there are chumps, and there are many Falcons since 1966 that are sucker chumps, like who never won a playoff game. Hey, that’s me, right now I’m on that last list.

Bobo is Not the Problem

January 25th, 2012
5:42 pm

Bring back Jeff Van Note.

SugarHillDawg

January 25th, 2012
5:45 pm

Captain Obvious strikes again! And Obama needs to be run out on a rail in November too!!

Consider this:

January 25th, 2012
5:49 pm

Falcons may have advanced further in the playoffs with some OL adjustments. Svitek, Blaylock, Hawley, Clabo(RG old postion),Baker may have been our biggest and fastest combination. I would be cautious about disgarding players that could be retrained. Like everyone else I’d like to see FA solutions but Clabo at RG fulfills a big need and the tackle positions may be easier to cover. In addition please consider this also:

1. Allow Snelling and Turner to switch roles. Orient the running game to the strengths of Snelling and Rogers. Give periodic doses of Turner to beat on Dlines.

2. Seek athletic TE’s.

3. Bring back Trey Lewis at DT. He was dropped for 299lb tackles.

4. Dominique Franks appears solid enough to man a corner full time inexpensively. Chris Owens speed alone is reason enough to retrain him. The Falcons would be deep at corner with Grimes but I wonder if he may prove to expensive.

5. I like the profile on Sanders prior to coming to Atlanta. He is a proven starter. Decoud would be an excellent backup short of spending money on big name FA. Moore performs as advertised.

Tdubz

January 25th, 2012
5:52 pm

Keep Turner, Turner looked rusty b/c Ovie was out all season & didn’t have a lead block. KEEP OVIE! You know all those short yardage situations the Falcons failed to convert? If Ovie was playing, 9/10 would’ve been converted. Ovie’s a crucial part of the run AND pass blocking. & there’s no one better out there. With Koetter’s new screen attack ovie will probably catch more passes. So what if he’s not an offensive threat? He’s a FULLBACK. they’re not supposed to be, The only one I ever saw was Mr. Mike Alstott, but he was just a freak of nature. Otherwise, I agree on everything else. Sam Baker has been garbage & a penalty threat since he’s been in the league. It’s too early to call on Jerry, he missed his whole 1st season. & I saw him make a few good plays this past season. Dunta also got better this season, adapting to the defense. I think he’ll get better, & he’ll be better under Mike Nolan. He’s a hard-hitting corner, a physical presence. Grimes is our coverage guy. Dump the safeties! Decoud just happens to be in the right place at the right time by accident most of the time. & William Moore didn’t do shttt. James Sanders did better than Moore this season. Ray Edwards was just ****** over by Brian VanGorder’s crap defensive schemes. Under Mike Nolan the pass rush will be a major part, & Ray Edwards will be trying to murder the QB again :) Hopefully we’ll re-sign Abe, so he’ll take the heat off of Edwards. Revamp the O-line, dump Decoud & Moore, dump Nicholas, & get a better LB on that side. Get some better back up CB’s. Hayden, Grimes, & Robinson are fine, but who covers when they’re off the field? Franks & Owens. Garbage. I’m done.

Paddy O

January 25th, 2012
6:02 pm

Mr.Schultz: Any chance YOU or maybe the PAID sports editor for this newspaper could post a list of Falcon players with their salaries for 2012 indicated, or would that be too much work for somebody? Or, should I get my news from someplace else?

steven A.

January 25th, 2012
6:13 pm

Falcons need to sign Vincent Jackson to pair opposite Julio Jones. Also draft 6″6″ TE Coby Fleener out
of Stanford. Also, draft running back GANAWAY out of Baylor. Matt Ryan needs BIG RECEIVERS to bail him out of his bad throws.

AlpharettaGuy

January 25th, 2012
6:15 pm

Definitely cut Baker & Turner and whoever else you need to cut to save $$$ & bring in some quality O Lineman! You can get decent RB’s on the cheap. Your RBs are not going to get yards and Ryan is not going to be effective w/out a strong O line…Ryan is a ’system guy’ who stays in the pocket and needs protection. No O line, no progress for this team.

Brownie

January 25th, 2012
6:16 pm

Falcons4life – good point about Baker at right guard – disasterous. However, they threw him in there in the middle of a game (backed up to their own goal line) when he had never played the position. Chance of any success was ZERO.

I’m saying he’s still a decent O lineman, just not a great LT – if they want to work him at RG in the spring to see what he’s got, I think it would be worth it. If we cut him, we take a cap hit, and then might find out he CAN play another OLine position with another team next year (surely won’t be at LT) – not much risk to take a look in the spring.

Bob

January 25th, 2012
6:18 pm

Have any of you twerps ever worn a jockstrap in your life? What a bunch of losers.

SeenThisB4

January 25th, 2012
6:21 pm

Cut Matt Ryan and Julio Jones.

steven A.

January 25th, 2012
6:22 pm

Cut Chris Redman and J. P. Wilson. Both are scrubs. Need to Draft a No. 2 QB. Matt Ryans’ “skinny
behind” is just one hit away from a Peyton Manning Situation.

steven A.

January 25th, 2012
6:26 pm

Target ONE of 3 QBs in this years’ draft to Back-up “Ice Man Ryan” Brock Osweiller(Arizona)
Kellen Moore(Bosie State) or Russell Wilson(Wisconsin).

sainthiram

January 25th, 2012
6:28 pm

sorry seen , they can’t do it ’cause they have no draft to replace them ! hmmmmmm what a perdicament

Jake n Bake

January 25th, 2012
6:30 pm

One of your best posts so far J. But I gotta believe it comes down to that O-Line and Baker. Happy feet Matt wont get us anywhere. If we can really sure up that O-Line maybe we CAN convert an inch or two… Oh and I wanna believe we get some of the 4th down calls with Ovie; but you bring up good points about his $. If he can be a Vet leader like a Tony Richardson under Cutter (New OC), then maybe he’s worth it.. Want to see Julio with a year under his belt too, gotta be nice to inherit as an OC.

JesusHChristo

January 25th, 2012
6:42 pm

LET’S START THE KEEP OVIE TRAIN!!!!!!!

white

January 25th, 2012
6:43 pm

Cut ovie we dont need a fullback with a gimpy weak leg. cut jerry, if a defensive lineman cant get to the qb then he needs to be playing on the offence. Ray Edwards will be much better this year. He played all last year on one and a half legs. D. Robinson will be fine also if Nolan will use him the right way. Grimy needs to stay, theres not a better corner out there. Send abe packing, he was great but getting old quick. Keep Lofton and let hime play with Spoon and Dent. Dent is a head buster. Send Baker packin. We have an awesome o. lineman on the team ,but i forgot his name. There was a highlight reel of him in college and he was the best blocker i have ever seen. Guess Smitty or M.M. didnt like him or wasnt paying him enough to start.Any player that is drafted in the first or second round should be able to come in and make an impact immediately. If they dont then get rid of them.

falconsrus

January 25th, 2012
6:47 pm

I see saint tiger and the whiffs have returned hows it feel

sainthiram

January 25th, 2012
6:53 pm

i don’t know yet- why don’t you give me your 2 pts. worth—ooooops—i mean 2 cent worth. sorry about the freudian slip

DocDawg

January 25th, 2012
7:02 pm

I think Baker was a AB pick, not TD’s fault. We’ll never know, but I’ll give him a pass on that. Lofton was a hit, Chevis, no, Harry Douglass and DeCoud, meh. He got some value for the Beerman as a 5th rounder. 2009 it gets bad, Jerry is a galactic bust, William Moore is a player who can’t stay on the field – bust. Credit him for Sidbury with a 4 and Vance Walker with a 7. Garrett Reynolds in the 5th was a New England style pick he busted on. 2010, he hit on Spoon and 3rd rounder Corey Peters. Busted on his offensive linemen (that’s a oh-fer so far). Last year, JJ was a can’t miss. Akeem and Quizz get incomplete grades. Got nothing out of Andrew Jackson.

That is not a very good track record.

Lamar

January 25th, 2012
7:04 pm

ARE THESE GUYS IN ORDER? OR JUST LISTED? REASON i AM ASKING IS #1 GUY SHOULD BE DUNTA ROBINSON, WHAT AN EXCUSE FOR A CB. IF MY GRAND MOTHER WAS THE WR, SHE WOULD BEAT HIM DEEP! AND THEY ARE PAYING HIM WHAT????? HARD TO BELIEVE. It might cost the Falcons 5 million to cut him, BUT IF THEY WANT TO WIN, he better go!!!!!!

Steve

January 25th, 2012
7:07 pm

Quality free agents are not cheap.

I agree with Jeff on who we are dumping, including Ovie. Ovie would be the one guy I would keep, but there are plenty of good ‘block-only’ FB’s available for cheap.

However, I do not like the free agent idea for getting replacements. Why tie-up our cap space with vets that are probably free agents for the same reason that Jerry, Baker and the lot are. Sure, they are out there to save money, but why not go with younger guys and give them a legit shot.

Example, I would much rather see a two-back tandem of Snelling/Rodgers than keeping Turner around. I would even rather see us pick up a guy like Moreno (likely to be cut), or Thomas Brown looked good with the Falcons in pre-season his first year before his injury and was really never given another chance because of the glut of overpaid RB’s at the time (Turner, Norwood). Now, maybe Brown isn’t the right guy, but I bring him up because we have Snelling and Rodgers who we need to make a huge part of this offense NOW. Not a couple of years from now, or as 4-5 plays a game guys .. but as legitimate weapons.

steven A.

January 25th, 2012
7:15 pm

Running Backs in the NFL need to be COMBO Backs. Turner MUST BE CUT! Turner is to “OLD SCHOOL” Prototypical NFL RB now is 5″10″–6″0″ 200-225lbs MAX. Burner burns no more.

TD has no clue!

January 25th, 2012
7:17 pm

Cut them all. You people giving TD a pass are crazy. He drafts too many often injured busts.
His free agents are horrible too. Get rid of him…problem solved because TD has no clue.

steven A.

January 25th, 2012
7:28 pm

TD has a clue. When he drafted Sam ” I am” Baker and Peria ” the waterman” Jerry, he went conservative. He went with what all the draft experts were saying. He did not trust his own instincts.
Remember, this guy drafted Pro Bowl DT Vince Wilfork, and how good has Wilfork been?
” I Thought so!” Enough said about the GM Ladies.

Saloon Door Sam

January 25th, 2012
7:31 pm

I hope they keep me !

El Barto

January 25th, 2012
7:38 pm

Trade Baker and Jerry to Clevland for Joe Thomas or Denver for Ryan Clady, BUT no draft picks offered to the other teams unless Denver or Clevalnd gives Atlanta one of their Draft Picks.
For Example:
Denver —> Baker and Jerry, 5 or 6th round pick 2013 base upon Denvers making the playoffs
Atlanta —> Clady and 4 or 5th round pick 2012 + 5 or 6th pick 2013 based upon a condition of Falcons making the playoffs.

Bud Wiser

January 25th, 2012
7:53 pm

IF they are willing to take a pay cut combined with a performance/incentive laden contract, then keep Baker and Jerry; if not, then give them a map of I-20 West towards Kansas City. (better have the full routing there, we don’t want another Pascual Perez incident)

Edwards obviously was eating the fall-off scraps from the rare Jared Allen missed tackles buffet. Like Jerry, if the crumbs miss the lap napkin, sit and wait for the next one.

Robinson was a better player with a better team around him. With the Falcons current d-line and secondary, he falls to the level of his peers.

Ovie at least got hurt playing hard, which you could be sure he always would do. Don’t take a guy’s job because of injury. Let him (and the doctors) pronounce himself fit and ready for duty, then see if he performs. He’s a Seabiscuit of NFL fullbacks.

briley parkway

January 25th, 2012
7:54 pm

Every time Samuel L. Jackson says “what do Falcons do?” I hear “what does Marcellus Wallace look like?”

Matt "CHOKE" Ryan

January 25th, 2012
7:56 pm

0-3 means no new contract

HA HA HA :)

Cannonball Butler

January 25th, 2012
7:57 pm

Time to trade Turner while he still has value and draft a stud RB. Also need to draft a TE, Toney’s not going to be around forever.

Matt "CHOKE" Ryan

January 25th, 2012
8:02 pm

I think we can still get a pound of poop for CHOKE but we gotta hurry

HA HA HA :)

cdog

January 25th, 2012
8:14 pm

if peyton manning is available, bring him in also. he’s not scared and is a winner unlike matt ryan. also bring in players that are winners and can cover in the secondary.it must be fixed for the falcons to have a chance at the superbowl next year

sainthiram

January 25th, 2012
8:28 pm

no chance next year- the saints will be playing in the first ever home field superbowl. why? we got spagNOLA and y’all had to settle for whats his name

zorba

January 25th, 2012
8:29 pm

Totally agree about the “MISTAKES” – and they are. Also, like your reasoning for the keep or cut decisions. I like how you “cut to the chase”.

DJ

January 25th, 2012
8:41 pm

1. Dunta must go no matter the cost. He has done absolutely nothing for this team and is a liability everytime he is on the field. Any one of our second stringers can cover better than him….
2. Turners time is up. Was a great RB but now does not have the speed or agility he once had. He is too slow to reliably get first downs when needed.
3. Sam Baker- Gone! Our line needs major work and this is a good start…

Nativebird

January 25th, 2012
8:48 pm

#1 mistake has already been fixed…..Mularkey is gone.

steven A.

January 25th, 2012
8:51 pm

Matt Ryan was drafted about 13 Picks ahead of Joe Flacco. Who would you rather have?

GTJeff

January 25th, 2012
8:53 pm

I have been watching the Falcons since I was 5 which was during Bartkowski’s heydays & am a diehard fan. You idiots that rag on Matt Ryan need to get a life. Matt Ryan is the best quarterback this franchise has EVER had. PERIOD. He holds 5 out of 14 single game, single season & career passing records for this franchise….by his 4th year as a starter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Falcons

He has gotten better every year. I suspect most of the fools who believe we need another quarterback are fans of that thug who wore number 7 around here & nearly destroyed our franchise.

BAMAJACKET

January 25th, 2012
8:57 pm

I’ve heard a lot about changes and the running game. But let’s stop for a moment and examine where we are and what we need. TD, what would it take to trade up for Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama ? This would SOLVE ALOT OF ISSUES………

DieHard

January 25th, 2012
8:57 pm

Really cut dunta and not edwards. Yeah right. Edwards is getting paid 30 million for 10 sacks in his 5 year contract and he plans on blaming the coaches every year. Dunta will thrive in nolans system and we can get some bad at picks for trading turner,baker a lt,and jerry. Mughelli is arguebly the best blocking fullback in the league. He doesnt get enough credit in my opinion.

GTJeff

January 25th, 2012
8:57 pm

Steven A. Answer is Matt Ryan in a heart beat. Better quarterback period. Look at the stats. Ryan took a perennial toliet of a Franchise after a season where its “franchise quarterback” was jailed, the head coach skipped town without saying a word to his players & a 4-12 season. Joe “immature whiner” Flacco has rode on the coattail of the best defense in the past 10 years of a franchise that was consistently in the playoffs. For you Flacco fans, think about this: Trent Dilwad was able to take the Ravens to the Super Bowl & win it. What has Super Flacco done? I rest my case.

Eric

January 25th, 2012
8:59 pm

Enter your comments here

Eric

January 25th, 2012
9:02 pm

Matty Freeze Up is not living up to his pay check

Matt Ryan

January 25th, 2012
9:04 pm

This whole situation is depressing. For all the good work the organization has done over the last four years they are going to have to take a step back to regroup and stride forward again.

We don’t have enough medical information to make the calls on Baker, Jerry, and Mughelli. Period. The vote is silly.

Healthy, Baker is an athletic above-agerage LT, fully capable of holding down the starting position. With a bad back he still showed athleticism on special teams but couldn’t stand up to the pounding in the trenches. If you get a good medical report bring him back to camp; healthy, he will beat out Svitek.

Jerry: Who knows? If the coaches think he still has upside potential they don’t have anyone else who does, so that’s an easy call to bring him back.

Robinson: Economics scream to keep him. Common sense says don’t cut him, trade him.

Edwards: Keeper.

Mughelli: The combination of Baker’s injury, Mughelli’s, and letting Harvey Dahl go sank the Falcons in the playoffs. With a weak OL the Falcons absolutely need a healthy Mughelli. If they shore up the OL (dream on) they could dump Ovie and pick up another journeyman plowhorse at lower cost and pick up a pass-receiving BB/TE in the draft or FA. Given the OL needs more help than they can provide, Mughelli is worth every penny of his salary when healthy. He CAN run and he CAN catch passes, he just wasn’t used that way. New OC might want him.

ws

January 25th, 2012
9:07 pm

PADDY-O, go to yahoo sports. go to nfl teams, go to roster of team Falcons)it will give you most of players salaries.Some of player it will not list(N/A). just for inform. will spock u what some makes that does not do crap.2.5M for Redman, Weems makes more that Lofton, what a joke.

Eric

January 25th, 2012
9:10 pm

Cam Newton or Matt ryan?

Josh Freeman or Matt Ryan?

Drew Brees or Matt Ryan?

We lose

ws

January 25th, 2012
9:12 pm

Bloggers on here think the other NFL teams are dumb. Give draft picks for them. You could not get one pick for the whole lot of them. Salary is too high.They will just wait and pick up the ones they want when you cut them.As falcons did with Hayden and Sanders

Matt Ryan

January 25th, 2012
9:14 pm

“Matt Ryan is the best quarterback this franchise has EVER had. PERIOD”

Chris Chandler. He accomplished what Ryan hasn’t to this point behind a sub-standard pass-protecting offensive line. Superior deep passer, just as good at managing the game, Now, if Ryan had led the Falcons to the Super Bowl this year then I’d give him the nod. Chandler ultimately got beat to a pulp; to Ryan’s credit he is still standing.

Delbert D.

January 25th, 2012
9:35 pm

The knock on Baker before the draft was that he had “short arms”. Measure them in training camp; if they haven’t grown longer, cut him. You can windmill faster with shorter arms. Ice skaters spin faster by drawing their arms in. Baker is good at windmilling, or turn-stiling, whatever you want to call it for free hits on the quarterback.

Foothills

January 25th, 2012
9:39 pm

Benny-if you want Ovie for that money you are welcomed to pay him. Don’t know of anyone in history that got that kind of contract to be a blocking back

Foothills

January 25th, 2012
9:43 pm

I remember when Dimitroff took over his words were, IIRC, “we’ll build from the inside-out” Funny, they unraveled from the inside-out this yr.

AlpharettaGuy

January 25th, 2012
9:50 pm

Keeping it real & being realistic, Ryan is not a bad QB, he’s just not great & he’s had 3 shots at ’stepping up’ in a playoff game & he’s progressively stepped down. That’s just a fact–offense was terrible vs Giants & he led the way. Best QB in Atl history? Not for me. Vick, Chandler, Bartowski, Ryan all in same ballpark. Atlanta just hasn’t had any great QBs. Ryan is good in his own world–protected in the pocket, not throwing deep. Throwing deep, flushed from the pocket, making a play on a broken play, QB sneak or any kind of run–he’s not good. Offensive identify gonna need to be more run than pass. Ryan is ok but he ain’t elite & won’t ever be. He sure gets a lot of ink on these posts, tho!

Jeff

January 25th, 2012
9:54 pm

Baker was an all-American at USC for three years and before his injury did a great job of protection in his first years at ATL..

Perry was the highest rated DT on the board when it came time for ATL to draft the year he was drafted.

Moore I never understood. I had hoped they would pick Chung that year- OOPS he is going to a superbowl with Patriots.

Dan Petrino will ALWAYS suck in my book becuase he passed on Patrick Willis the year Danny P picked Jamal “can’t find my sack much less make one” Anderson. The only thing Willis had done prior to the draft was raise himself and his kid brother- It was SO VERY OBVIOUS that he was a not only a great football player, but a great human being.

Mughelli is tough and didn’t like him at first, but do now. really worried about his comeback from knee injury though. Perry never came back from Knee injury because he was never here.

Put Dunta in man coverage on the opposition’s best receiver, let Grimes do his zone thing, and get boykin as a nickel. Boykin can actually catch the ball on defense (Moore & Decoud- it is OK to intercept the ball, ok?), line up in the offense as a back or receiver (cross between devin hester & Sproles), and return kicks for touchdowns. HE CAN TAKE THE ROCK TO THE HOUSE FROM ANY PLACE ON THE FIELD ON OFFENSE OR DEFENSE. .

Need OL zeitler or Jones

No TE or DE available this year. Maybe rush LB (West Virgina Guy)

d-bird

January 25th, 2012
10:10 pm

Thomas Dimitroff, you are a joke in my book. TD never built anything in New England. He was a puppet on Bill and Robert Kraft rope. Yea, he sat in the war room during draft time, but how effective was he and were did he play football. Great write up by Shultz! Time to get rid of some these 1st round bums and draft a guy with pro bowl ability. Atlanta has suffered enough. We want to win and win now. Mr Blank I only hope you read some of these blog being posted about our organization. Yes, I said our organization. Hell I’ve been a season ticket hold for 13 years and stood behind my birds no matter what. P. Jerry (Bust), J. Noorwood (Bust), Sam Baker (Bust), J. Anderson (Bust). Oh Yea I for got one (Rich McKay) Major Bust.

Greg M

January 25th, 2012
10:26 pm

blane f.

January 25th, 2012
10:47 pm

someone PLEASE take a look at ladarius green from la-lafayette. a pass catching tight end.this guy is gonna be a steal for some team.

Marc

January 25th, 2012
11:01 pm

Falcon Realist

January 25th, 2012
11:21 pm

The OL from Alabama.

Joshua Malavenda

January 25th, 2012
11:42 pm

We arent really that bad of a jam considering where we came from about 4 years ago it could be alot worse.. Yes Thomas and Mike made some drafting mistakes and some free agent mistakes but I am pretty sure that td and Mike are going to get out of this situation too. Lets trust in the process folks and lets see what happends.

El barto- Are you kidding me those trades arent even fair it reminds me of a trade on Madden. YOu could get probably like 4 at the best and the 6th at the least for baker and same for Jerry but I have heard about worse this year. If that happends Mike holegrim and John Elway should both be fired the day of and never ever let be gms again.

Matt "CHOKE" Ryan

January 25th, 2012
11:42 pm

GTJeff

January 25th, 2012
8:57 pm

Steven A. Answer is Matt Ryan in a heart beat. Better quarterback period. Look at the stats. Ryan took a perennial toliet of a Franchise after a season where its “franchise quarterback” was jailed, the head coach skipped town without saying a word to his players & a 4-12 season. Joe “immature whiner” Flacco has rode on the coattail of the best defense in the past 10 years of a franchise that was consistently in the playoffs. For you Flacco fans, think about this: Trent Dilwad was able to take the Ravens to the Super Bowl & win it. What has Super Flacco done? I rest my case.

____________________________________________

The same year CHOKE was drafted, the Ravens were coming off of a 5-11 season. So much for that 10 year top defense theory :)

Before Flacco was drafted, the Ravens only had 2 back to back winning seasons. Flacco has not missed the playoffs in his WHOLE career.

Flacco has 5 playoff wins, 2 championship games, including 4 road playoff wins.

CHOKE has ZERO anything in the playoffs except for 3 CHOKES :)

joe

January 25th, 2012
11:47 pm

Falcons need a Good QB.

Vince Doodly

January 25th, 2012
11:48 pm

Ovie Mughelli is a valuable part of the falcons offense. Of course now with a new OC, who knows. I love the guy. A tough player and a valuable asset up to now. Money talks though.

dont get it??

January 26th, 2012
12:11 am

Why is getting rid Ovie Mughelli even up for bet?????? If the falcon don’t keep then there the dumbest team ever!

Gritsfalcon

January 26th, 2012
2:09 am

I like Mughelli, but it seems the Falcons give out these rather lucrative contracts and the player either rests on his laurels or isn’t as good as advertised. Who’s fault would that be? I do think Baker and Jerrry should go. (Jerry is another J. Anderson bust on the D line.) Really, the Falcons need two mean, aggresive, veteran guards!!! Can they get Harvey Dahl back? That is what they miss on the O line!!!

Knowledge Bone

January 26th, 2012
3:09 am

Simple Solution.

-Cut Baker…but before giving him the pink slip have him change everyone on the teams oil in the Georgia Dome parking lot, beat him with a rubber hose…then send him on his way.

-Pierre Jerry…who is that again?? Outta Here!

-Donta Robinson. Keep him, but force him to live in Vine City and walk to work…and by work I mean cut that mop off his head, walk over to the dome and use it in the restrooms work.

-Ray Edwards. Any football player that does a photo shoot of himself doing push ups in a speedo gets his a## kicked. Outta Ere’

-Ovie Muhalie (sp?)- I heard him on the radio a while back, he sounds like an all right dude

clay

January 26th, 2012
3:31 am

Were about to find out just how good TD and MS are.

Jim

January 26th, 2012
4:21 am

This team just has massive problems…the excuses are already in place,i.e., “the players have to have time to adjust to the schemes of the new offensive and defensive coordinators.” Heard that before?

drew

January 26th, 2012
6:15 am

When deciding who to keep and who to cut, you have to ask yourself:
“Does he look like a b1tch?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuDUnKPyzww

Ackshun

January 26th, 2012
6:28 am

Got to disagree on Ovi Mughelli. It’s not that the guy cant catch. It was the that the OC never ran plays to exploit his skill set. That’s not his fault and who know how those 4th n short plays would have gone this year had he been healthy.

DC Dirty Bird

January 26th, 2012
6:34 am

Ovie and Baker are likely gonners. Baker is just too expensive as a back up and Koetter’s system doesn’t really call for a $3 million dollar FB. If it were me, I’d ask Ovie to restructure. Those who say cut Dunta haven’t done their homework on the style of football Mike Nolan likes to play. Dunta likes to be physical with WR and that’s the type of defense Nolan likes to play. Ray should also benefit from being in a system where he doesn’t have to “coordinate” his pass rush with the other DE. Piera’s contract isn’t that bad that we should cut him…..unless we have someone on the roster whose a better 3rd/4th rotational DT.

Monster

January 26th, 2012
7:22 am

Noticed Boley still playing at a high level, and we’ll see him again next week. Was always a head scratcher to me.

I strongly believe Dimitrioff is over-rated. Just flat wastes his late picks. And FA has been a flop besides Turner.

But to your Qs, show Michael T some love. He has been MVP of the Falcons for four years. And the OL run blocking was really weak this year, in addiction to Ovie’s injury. Keep him, we will not have another RB that can carry the load in ‘12.

Draft OL and TE (we could have had iJmmy Graham LY) this year, and get that RB in Round 1 in ‘13. tW,net a backup QB, you will need him sooner or later (see the Colts).

DC Dirty Bird

January 26th, 2012
7:30 am

Why do we keep talking out of both sides of our mouths when it comes to Turner. OL blocking was weak….but he got 1300 yds.

IS HE A GAME CHANGING BACK?

Atticus

January 26th, 2012
7:50 am

How many yards has Turner gotten against playoff teams? The guy is a garbage man, gets yards when they don’t matter. And he loses yards more than any back in the league because he is so solow to hit the hole. The league is not about slow plodding backs anymore.

SawThat1nce

January 26th, 2012
8:21 am

In most cases, hit what hole?

Bill

January 26th, 2012
8:22 am

I must say it is good that the Falcons have been in the playoffs 3 of 4 years. This is the same organization who for years was beyond awful.

That said, I hope a new defensive scheme will remedy many of our D-problems. The old Kines’ read-and- react scheme BVG uses died when players got so much bigger and FASTER. A more aggressive scheme will make many of these players better. Also, no DB can cover without a solid pass rush–can’t cover someone for 4 or 5 seconds.

We need both lines to be strong, but I think this year showed how important the O-line is to both running and passing. Scheme may help the D, but Baker needs to go and we need to spend money upgrading the O-line so it is a dominant force. Those 4th-and-1 flops can be laid right at their feet, and Ryan’s passing will improve greatly with a better pocket and hence more time to pass. Opposing defenses are not able to cover our receivers for 5 seconds, either.

terrell

January 26th, 2012
8:26 am

“Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff hasnt made a lot of them”. Oh really??

Bud Wiser

January 26th, 2012
8:29 am

I like the picture, and have the captions, L-R:

TD: “Who’s that guy next to Arthur? … doesn’t look like Belichick to me, maybe he sent a spokesperson till he gets here.”

Blank: “I don’t know how in the hell these kids today can text so fast.

Smith: “I’ll fire the idiot that made that 4th down call against the Saints, you can bet on that! Now, we have as a surprise jalapeno poppers on the buffet at the conclusion of this meting. Any questions? I thought not! Let’s eat!

terrell

January 26th, 2012
8:35 am

Need to stop trying to draft choir boys, and start drafting some freakin playmakers.

Badger58

January 26th, 2012
8:44 am

Regardless of the cap hit, Dunta is a liability in coverage. He jumped the shark from “not worth the money” to “wouldn’t be a starter at S. Carolina” this year. He is terrible and doesn’t do the ONE thing that he was brought here to do, which is to be a good tackler. He’s routinely made to look ridiculously inept by even rookie WRs. I don’t care what the cap hit is, it’s past time to cut ties with this whiny loser.

"HERE COMES THE JUDGE"

January 26th, 2012
8:56 am

Sam Baker has been MY biggest headache since he arrived…Matt won’t ever admit it but I’m sure when he looks at the game tapes he got to at least be saying to himself that “that guy’s gott go!” A lot more I could say but I gotta go to work…unlike Sam. Trade/release/fire/give him away, etc, etc!!

shirley hemphill

January 26th, 2012
9:01 am

Yeah Jeff, let’s get a “Reservoir Dogs” theme going….anything to remind us of 1998. Let’s also get Jamal out of nightclub bathroom stalls and back in uniform.
BTW NONE of these shlubs are worth what they’re paid so it makes no sense to single out Turner, the most productive player we have.

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
9:26 am

Falcons may not like cutting Dunta because of the cap hit but I’m not going to watch them next year if he’s still on the team. He is always 10 yards off open receivers then cannot tackle them once they catch the ball. He’s useless. He just looks good out there with his dreadlocks hair flopping all around. When your cornerback can’t cover or tackle he doesn’t need to be on the team.

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
9:29 am

Trade for the Rams Steven Jackson. He runs hard every play even playing on a sorry team. Turner is too slow thru the holes and many times could bounce a run outside for 8 to 15 yards but runs up a lineman’s back instead for no gain. Turner lacks the field vision to be a top RB.

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
9:32 am

Picture caption should have said “Three Stooges”.

DawgDad

January 26th, 2012
9:35 am

“get boykin as a nickel”

Boykin may wind up just being a kick returner in the NFL – he can’t tackle in the open field, shies away from the physical contact. Watch the South Carolina tape, and pretty much any other game the Dawgs played this year. Boykin single-handedly lost the SC game, whiffing on Ingram. There’s no excuse for a player with Boykin’s speed and athleticism whiffing on all the open field tackles he’s whiffed on except shying away from the contact. Great potential as a kick returner, though.

Cannonball Butler

January 26th, 2012
9:37 am

Jeff, right for once! Baker is the worst lineman in football. Say goodbye!

DawgDad

January 26th, 2012
9:41 am

“Turner lacks the field vision to be a top RB.”

Then, please tell me WHO I’ve been watching the past four years?

I’ve said this before, I remember when living in St. Louis in the mid-90’s the team, press, and fans were down on Jerome Bettis for not hitting holes hard, dancing in the backfield, and not being effective. Traded to Pittsburgh he was an immediate star, deemed as tough as they come. The difference was the offensive lines; the O-line in St. Louis in the mid-90’s couldn’t block a Pop Warner defense – ask Chris Miller.

Told You So

January 26th, 2012
9:41 am

In order to make it to the big dance Arthur is going to have to swallow hard and admit that his President and GM are mediocre football people. He needs to cut the two idiots who signed all of these guys – Dummytroff and McHey I’m Still Living off of Daddy’s Legacy.

DC Dirty Bird

January 26th, 2012
9:42 am

Ryan Plays: Ever thought that the scheme called for DRob to play 10 yds off? What kind of true fan decides not to watch their team because of one player. There are 10 other guys on the defense and 11 other guys responsible for putting up points.

Lets put things in perspective here. Did DRob get torched in the GB game last year? Did DRob call 2 4th down QB sneaks against the Giants? Did DRob tip toe on 4th and 1 against the Saints, making himself untrustworthy in clutch short yardage situations? Did DRob force Decoud to decide he was a LB instead of a FS on the 80 yd Nicks touchdown against the Giants?

Plenty of blame to go around on the Falcons. No need to focus on one player.

joewhite

January 26th, 2012
9:45 am

Cut baker, robinson take a pay cut and lets go from there, jerry this is your last year to shine sir.ray will be fine, ovie if he takes a paycut and healthy bring him back

DC Dirty Bird

January 26th, 2012
9:49 am

DawgDad,
Would Bettis have tip-toed on that 4th and 1?

Matt "CHOKE" Ryan

January 26th, 2012
9:59 am

Flacco + 42 million. :)

Gary O

January 26th, 2012
10:03 am

We need at least one new starter on the O-Line, and may have to overpay to get somebody.

As a result, I am open to letting Ovie go for a cheaper replacement. I wonder what the coaches think about Mike Cox?

malone

January 26th, 2012
10:13 am

Been a falcon fan since i was 9 years old, 1981. I watch every game. The offensive line is horrible b/c of two guys — Baker and Reynolds have to go. They just are not getting it done. Our fullback is special if he can recover from this injury. Keep him if his knee is o.k. But we absolutely need to get ourselves a new power back. Turner is a plodder now who has no burst to the hole. He’s been good to us, but you have to come to grips with reality that he’s 30 and just isn’t “the burner” anymore. Get a young back with burst and power. Maybe it’s time to give K. Miere a chance at to replace Douglas. I love Douglas’ potential, but he rarely makes an impact. Bottom line is we’ve got to improve that offensive line, add a fresh running back, and add one more OLB to compliment lofton and spoon. Then i think we’re in good shape.

Ray

January 26th, 2012
10:20 am

I think Baker’s got to go– but the others are keepers for now. Trading Turner is stupid unless we’re not going to run the ball anymore. Also blaming White for all of his drops is unfair. Matt Ryan didn’t have a great year with his ball placement. You watch the top tier QB’s— Brees, Rogers, Manning, Brady– they put the ball where the receiver expects it to be 99% of the time. Ryan often throws the ball behind his receivers– and he missed a lot of deep balls this year.. either too long or too short. He was off this year– and needs to go back to the film room.

DC Dirty Bird

January 26th, 2012
10:26 am

CHOKE,
Do you have anything else to add to these posts other than Matt Ryan sucks?

BTW, Ryan would have a ring by now with that defense and Ray Rice and McGahee/Williams. He ain great, but he’s much better than Flacco.

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
10:46 am

I can watch or not watch any game at MY discretion. I’m tired of seeing Dunta Robinson getting beat short,medium,and long by receivers. When you have a glaring hole at DB then the QB’s are gonna expose it and keep going after him. Replace him now or just forfeit the games.

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
10:49 am

Well up until this year you watched Turner run thru GAPING holes made by the O-linemen. Now that he has to get yards on his own he ain’t nothing. He hates contact and won’t run over defenders any more. He plays like he has a glass vase in his hands instead of a football.

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
10:53 am

Matt Ryan is AVERAGE at best at QB. I can name 12 other QB’s I’d rather have than Matt Ryan. And 2 of them USED to be Falcons (Vick & Schaub). Here’s the other 10 : Rodgers,Brees,Brady,Rivers,Roethlisberger,C.Newton,P.Manning,E.Manning,M.Stafford,A.Dalton.

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
10:58 am

Did any of you notice that once Vick came back the Eagles didn’t lose a game ? If he would have played all year & Jay Cutler & Matt Forte would have played all year for Bears then Falcons wouldn’t have made the playoffs. They got there because 2 teams had major injuries… By default. Awful.

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
11:00 am

Oh yeah, add Jay Cutler to the list. Matt Ryan is 14th or 15th best in NFL.

JImmy T

January 26th, 2012
11:02 am

You hope that Baker wil play better in 2012 b/c his back is healthy, but that’s a big if. He seemed to play well early in his career so I’m hopeful. I’m disappointed the most in P. Jerry. Thought he had a quick 1st step and spent a lot of time in the oppoents backfield? Sure looks like he got fat and lazy when he got paid. We definately need to release Ovie. Too much $ for that position. Still think we need Duntae and Edwards. They should be more productive with better coaching and schemes.

DC Dirty Bird

January 26th, 2012
11:03 am

Ryan…it was a rhetorical question….
Great list, but I’m not sure I’d put Dalton in over MR2. He’s got talent, I didn’t see superstar in the making potential like with Newton. Otherwise the only thing I an say to you is, there are 32 teams in the league and we have the 13th best. No complaints.

DC Dirty Bird

January 26th, 2012
11:09 am

MR2, the Bears slide due to injuries got Detroit in the playoffs not us. Given that the NFC East teams all finished with 7 or more losses, a healthy Vick, Forte, and Cutler only enables Chicago to get the #5 seed wildcard and Philly to get teh #4 seed as the NFC East champion.

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
11:14 am

DCDB, then the Giants get the Wild Card not Falcons…

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
11:15 am

Lions & Falcons woulda been left out & Eagles & Bears in.

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
11:17 am

If we still had Vick 4th & 1 would be automatic….

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
11:18 am

This is very easy. Cut all 4 of these sorry players. Dunta is the worst one on the list !

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
11:19 am

Who do you think Packers J.Nelson,D.Driver,Giants Cruz,Nicks is beating on the pass plays ? Dunta Robinson !

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
11:22 am

Flacco played great againt New England. Better than Tom Brady by the numbers. The holder for the Ravens is to blame for their loss. He did’t line the ball up with laces forward. Somewhere Jim Carrey is laughing…

Shawn

January 26th, 2012
11:24 am

Try to get Jonathan Dwyer,a former GT running back from the Steelers. He has shown he can play in this league but broke a foot early this year and did not play. He has the size and speed the Falcons lack presently I think the Falcons were too predictable offense. Every set of downs it was Turner left and Turner right

Falconfever

January 26th, 2012
11:46 am

Keep Ovie, cut the rest.

78Dawg

January 26th, 2012
11:47 am

Cut TD…He’s been the biggest bust of all…In way over his head!

Ryan Plays Like # 2

January 26th, 2012
12:09 pm

The problem with Matt Ryan being 13th or 14th best QB in NFL is that only 12 teams make the playoffs every year and only 6 from NFC !!!!!

Samuel

January 26th, 2012
12:30 pm

If you could trade some of these guys for draft picks, who could instantly come in and start or come off the bench and be productive.

Die Hard Falcon

January 26th, 2012
12:35 pm

@Ryan Plays Like # 2 –

You’re entitled to believe that Matt Ryan is only middle of the road, I definitely disagree, I would place Matt at about #10 right now, I certainly wouldn’t put Dalton, Cutler, Newton ahead of him at this point, and I think Stafford is a 1-trick pony, he had a phenomenal year and I don’t want to sound like I’m disrespecting him, but 1 season doesn’t show consistency, Ryan has been steadily improving (expcept in playoff games) every year and had great stats. I would much rather have Ryan than Vick as well. So we disagree, but there are a lot of Ryan haters, not sure where it comes from, he’s not arrogant or anything, but whatever, looking at the empirical data, I’m quite satisfied w/ our QB, not everyone can have Brees, Manning, Rodgers, and Brady.

As far as the playoffs, you’re wrong, IF we’re going to play the IF game, and Cutler and Vick didn’t get hurt, most likely the Bears would’ve gotten in and been #5, but we held tie-breakers over the Lions & Eagles and as far as the G-men, they were 9-7, we were 10-6, so they wouldn’t have gotten the wildcard over us. And IF Roddy hadn’t dropped TD’s against the aints in the 1st game at the end or the bucs game early in the season and IF Julio didn’t drop the TD against the Texans we could’ve been 13-3. We obviously get what we earn and drops, injuries, bad calls are all part of it.

Go Falcons, Go Matt Ryan!

Sid

January 26th, 2012
12:46 pm

Can’t we go back to the 2001 NFL Draft? Would love to be able to correct our biggest mistake!

Matt

January 26th, 2012
12:50 pm

How bout trading 5 picks for Julio Jones???

Matt

January 26th, 2012
12:52 pm

Jamal Anderson much??

Eskoballa

January 26th, 2012
1:03 pm

im gona laugh my but off so hard if we do cut turner or trade him and then he explodes on another team then jeff schultz and all ya other people wanting turner gone will act like ya were against dumping him lol. as i said earlier, nomatter what running back we have they still wont be able to run. not with the crappy O-line we got. ya should ve known this was comming when ya let harvey dahl go.

Kennyd

January 26th, 2012
1:12 pm

How how they forget to mention Matt Ryan ! The Falcons are paying Big Buck for a BUST QB…..

Sid

January 26th, 2012
1:14 pm

Re: Tackle Sam Baker:

From the movie “Tombstone”:
Wyatt Earp: I just want you to know it’s over between us.
Curly Bill: Well……………………………… bye.

Sid

January 26th, 2012
1:20 pm

Kennyd January 26th, 2012 1:12 pm
How how they forget to mention Matt Ryan ! The Falcons are paying Big Buck for a BUST QB…..
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Kenny, Kenny, Kenny……………….the dude is ranked 10th by position, can you imagine what he could do with an offensive line??

Sid

January 26th, 2012
1:22 pm

I am really enjoying all those pictures of Drew Brees in Hawaii, the flowered shirts seem to fit him. They don’t wear those much in Indy.

Football Fan 14

January 26th, 2012
1:29 pm

Turner cannot catch, hard to be a screen team when #1 back can’t catch. Go after Ray Rice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sid

January 26th, 2012
1:58 pm

Peria Jerry: I’m not ready to give up on him. Let’s face it, even Jamaal Anderson improved with coaching…………..after going to the Colts.

Dunta Robinson: Keep him for fiscal reasons BUT, he tied with Grimes for Tackles and Asst, also tied for 2nd in passes defended.

Ray Edwards: I’ve got to see a lot more. Ray appeared to be taking a lot of plays off. Then I heard he was already injured when he got here so I gave that due allowance. But I’m just not sure he is what we need here, he seems a little lazy. Maybe Nolan can get his motor started.

Ovie Mughelli: Hello, please explain to me again why he is on this list. This is arguably the best fullback in the NFL……………..ever. You are gonna have to put on more than just a pair of selling shoes to get me to buy into this bs.

Slaphead

January 26th, 2012
2:01 pm

I know of several 4th-and-inches this past season that Ovie picks up. He’s much more of a bull runner than Michael Twinkle Toes Turner.

Keep Ovie. He makes the entire offense better with his blocking and short yardage abilities.

Old Dawg

January 26th, 2012
2:02 pm

What ain’t any country I ever heard of. Say what again!

Joshua

January 26th, 2012
2:06 pm

We should NOT cut Ovie! Never underestimate the value of a top tier blocking FB. Remember Lorenzo Neal? Baker, Dunta and Jerry need to GO! They’re always crying that something is hurting, lazy, and bank rolling for doing nothing! They’re as bad as my ex-wife! Ray Edwards came on late… give him another year or 2 then debate him.

Sid

January 26th, 2012
2:08 pm

My wish list if Dimitroff is gonna give up a wallet full of draft choices:

David Wilson, Running Back, Va Tech

And in some circles he is going to slip into the 2nd round but all the way to the Falcons, not likely.

wxwax

January 26th, 2012
2:13 pm

Dimitroff has done a good job.

But not a great job.

Arguably, his two whiffs on 1st round picks is the difference between going deep in the playoffs and one-and-done. Not coincidentally, both failures are injury-rpone players, and Dimitroff seems to pick a lot of those.

AlpharettaGuy

January 26th, 2012
2:14 pm

OK, kids–let’s settle down about Mr Ryan. You can’t hate the guy–he seems like a good guy & he’s really, really rich…good for him. On the other hand, he is not Brees & never will be close. He’s…an NFL starting QB, not much better & not much worse. In the playoffs when eveything is magnified, you need guys to step up. I remember Brees diving, holding the ball out & breaking the plane on 4th & 1; big Ben running for first downs on bad ankles, Tim “he can’t throw” Tebow launching bombs to beat Pittsburgh…& I remember Ryan not taking shots downfield & sliding down w/ 45 seconds to go in first half, no one touching him, in-bounds & short of first down. (And NO ONE called a time-out-That one is on the coaches.) I believe Ryan has more heart than that–he just needs more of what every successful pro athlete has & that’s confidence. Ryan Plays Like #2, I don’t disagree w/ your assessment but I think the guy can be better. Maybe Koetter can coach him up or maybe he’ll find some fire in his belly this coming year. I hope so cause we need him.

bobby

January 26th, 2012
2:28 pm

JEFF SCHULTZ

THE ONLY PERSON I WOULD KEEP OUT THE FIVE IS THE FULLBACK THE REST I WOULD LET GO SAM BAKER LET’S FACE IT MR. SCHULTZ HE IS GARBAGE. RAY EDWARDS LET’S FACE IT MR. SCHULTZ HE IS THAT GOOD EITHER. IN MINNESOTA HE BENFITED FROM JARED ALLEN, PAT WILLIAMS, AND KEVIN WILLIAMS THAT’S ALL THERE IS TO IT AND YOU AND I KNOW THAT. ROBINSON IT’S TIME FOR HIM TO GO HE HAS BEEN A BUST. AND JERRY HE’S BEEN A BUST.

JEFF SCHULTZ

ALSO I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE FALCONS DRAFT HISTORY SINCE 2008. MR.SCHULTZ, THE FALCONS HAVE HAD FIVE FIRST ROUND PICKS. JUILO JONES, MATT RYAN, AND SEAN WITHERSPOON ALL PANED OUT. BUT BAKER AND JERRY AIN’T DID NOTHING.

BUT WHAT HAS KILLED THE FALCONS SINCE THOMAS D BECAME GENERAL MANAGER HERE IN 2008 IS THE SCEOND ROUND ON DOWN. THERE HAVE BEEN ONLY TWO PICKS THERE THAT HAVE PANED OUT IT’S COREY PETERS AND WILL MOORE WHEN HEALTHY THE REST OF THAT INCLUDING CURTIS POFTON HAVE BEEN GARBAGE I MEAN LOFTON CAN’T COVER OR RUN MR. SCHULTZ. IN MY OPINON IT TIME FOR ARTHUR BLANK TO FIRE THOMAS D AND THE WHOLE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT’S CLEAR THEY CAN’T DRAFT OR KNOW TALENT.

Jax Falcon/Dog Fan

January 26th, 2012
2:37 pm

AlpharettaGuy, you failed to mention Ryan’s penchant for inaccuracy. It is a given he will never be able to go deep more than occasionally in a game to keep the safeties honest. Therefore, the short game demands that he be able to hit his receivers at a much higher completion rate than he has accomplished so far. Dropped passes aside, his accuracy must improve if he is to remain a starting quarterback in this league. His leadership and toughness can not be questioned, but the big question as we go down the road is his accuracy.

BirdDroppings

January 26th, 2012
2:38 pm

HUGE SCREWUP with last years draft. Got a receiver who hasn’t shown much for draft picks we should have used for DEFENSE

Sid

January 26th, 2012
2:43 pm

Matt Ryan January 25th, 2012 9:14 pm
Chandler ultimately got beat to a pulp; to Ryan’s credit he is still standing.
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You are smokin’ right on with this statement. Ryan is a lot tougher than I think he gets credit for.

[...] sure the Falcons would love to cut bait and move on from Robinson,  but the problem is that Robinson will make a base salary of $6 million for the 2012 season.  Of the $6 million he’s set to make, $5 million of it is guaranteed.  [...]

Stinger

January 26th, 2012
2:50 pm

Cut Mike Smith…now that’s an easy call

AlpharettaGuy

January 26th, 2012
2:58 pm

Jax, true he’s not great on the deep ball but that’s something he can work on along w/ a lot of other stuff. I think a lot is going to fall on Koetter. Ryan is a huge investment & he is the man for years to come. Koetter & the QB coach need to help him improve his weaknesses. He’s not a bum, he’s a decent NFL QB which is saying a lot, but playing the most important position on the field demands a lot. I’m pulling for him.

DC Dirty Bird

January 26th, 2012
3:00 pm

Jax Falcon, in this league, the gold standard is 60% completion rate. Ryan has had that since year 1. I’m not sure anyone who coaches or plays the game questions Ryans overall accuracy.

Ryan #2, your logic on the playoffs is flawed. Tebow, Alex Smith, and Flacco all made the playoffs without being top 12 QB’s in the league. Jake Delhomme wasn’t a top 12 QB and played in the Super Bowl.

Sid

January 26th, 2012
3:01 pm

One of my favoirtes. If I’m not mistaken there was a request for this Pulp Fiction quote:

Jules: There’s a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon you.” Now… I been sayin’ that s___ for years. And if you ever heard it, that meant your ass. You’d be dead right now. I never gave much thought to what it meant. I just thought it was a cold-blooded thing to say to a m______f_____ before I popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some s___ this mornin’ made me think twice. See, now I’m thinking: maybe it means you’re the evil man. And I’m the righteous man. And Mr. 9mm here… he’s the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you’re the righteous man and I’m the shepherd and it’s the world that’s evil and selfish. And I’d like that. But that s___ ain’t the truth. The truth is you’re the weak. And I’m the tyranny of evil men. But I’m tryin’, Ringo. I’m tryin’ real hard to be the shepherd.

I sometimes ask my wife if she “had the blueberry pancakes honey bunny”, she knows what I mean.

Adam

January 26th, 2012
3:23 pm

Speaking of the ‘Rise Up’ commercial….
I’m pretty sure when Jimmy Carter came on there and asked “What do Falcons do?”, that wasn’t a rhetorical question from him.

[...] his latest article for the AJC, columnist Jeff Schultz compiled what he believes is Thomas Dimitroff’s five biggest [...]

Falcon Hardy

January 26th, 2012
3:37 pm

Cut them all. WITH EACH WEAK LINK WE KEEP IS A HOLE IN OUR TEAM. FIRE TD AND SMITTY TOO. THE ONLY THING KNOWS TO DO IS WHEN HE LOOSES COMPLIMENT THE OTHER TEAM.TD IS A SMOKE AND MIRRORS TYPE GUY. dON’T FORGET RICH McKAY, HE’S ALSO DEAD WEIGHT.

SirReal

January 26th, 2012
3:46 pm

@bobby Lofton is garbage? No, your statement was garbage.lol Glad guys like you arent the GM. I dont know what you are seeing on the field….obviously not very much.LOL

Pete

January 26th, 2012
3:48 pm

It’s starting to sink in that Mr. Perfect, Thomas Dimitroff, doesn’t walk on water after all. Many of his moves have been average to downright JUNK.

SirReal

January 26th, 2012
4:16 pm

@Pete Smarmy Dimitroff isnt at all what people think. The N.E. mysitque wore off when he made the dumb move to get Julio thinking we were “just a player or two” away. His vision is impaired. Both lines are below par, his picks are injury prone/busts, and so are his free agents. If anyone needs to be under the scope, it’s ol greasy hair.LOL

boby

January 26th, 2012
5:10 pm

SIRREAL

YOU CLEARLY WAS’NT WATCHING ANY OF THE FALCONS GAMES THIS YEAR. FIRST OF ALL LOFTON IS A LIABILITY IN COVERAGE AND SECOND HE CAN”T RUN SIRREAL. YOU CLEARLY WAS’NT WATCHING THE GAMES BUDDY. THE FALCONS NEED A MIDDLE LINEBACKER WHO GO SIDELINE TO SIDELINE, RUN BETTER, AND ABLE TO COVER THE PASS AND LOFTON CLEARLY CAN’T DO NONE OF THOSE.

Sick & Tired Of Being Sick & Tired

January 26th, 2012
6:27 pm

I have been saying all along that many of the teams issues have been the result of the offensive and defensive schemes and not fully utilizing the skills of the players that we have. Hopefully the new coordinators will better utilize the talents.

I am for keeping everyone referenced in this article EXCEPT FOR SAM BAKER!!!!! He needs to be cut or hopefully traded, but I don’t know of any of the remaining teams that would be stupid enough to trade for him.

Chucktown38

January 26th, 2012
7:28 pm

You are killing me. Robinson is the best CB on the team, he is not a SOFT ZONE player unlike Grimes, who can NOT play press coverage. Grimes is gone because of it in 2012.Ovie has the same type of problem, he has all the ability in the world with coaches that don’t know how to use him.There are a lot of players who are in the same boat. I hope the new coaches will fix theses shot comings

Chucktown38

January 26th, 2012
7:31 pm

In my eyes TD has not drafted well. It is simple BIG TIME PLAYERS from BIG TIME SCHOOLS. Hell even average players from BIG TIME SCHOOLS is better than great players from small schools.

Chucktown38

January 26th, 2012
7:33 pm

We do need a RB with speed the hit the hole fast and with cruel intentions.A little attitude will go a lot way as well.

SirReal

January 26th, 2012
7:49 pm

@bobby Listen Booby, you are clearly dillusional.LOL I see that now Booby. The guy was top 5 tackling in the league and is ALWAYS seen at the ball.LOL I’m sure a lot of others teams will love to have that kind of “slowness” you speak of Booby. I was clearly watching sir…he’s not too far from Willis and other top tier MLBs. He’s earned his keep since he’s been here.lol

Eric

January 26th, 2012
9:38 pm

lets get the Oklahoma State Quarterback in the fourth round. Matty Freeze Up needs someone to push him for the number one QB job.

Ray Edwards is the only keeper in the JIVE FIVE!!!! He is fair against the run.

Eric

January 26th, 2012
9:49 pm

Grimes will end up playing against us in our division. Watch for Carolina or Tampa to grab him. Ronde Barber is getting old and Grimes would be a great fit.

Mo

January 26th, 2012
10:09 pm

Pro Football Focus graded Dunta Robinson 101st of 109 qualifying cornerbacks in 2011. Robinson ranked an even worse 105th in pass coverage.

walknbalk

January 27th, 2012
1:48 am

Schultz,

Dunta was misused in the previous BVG schemes. He will thrive in press coverage under Nolan.

BIG JIM

January 27th, 2012
8:08 am

what idiot on the falcons staff want to cut ovie,The one that said that they need to be cut themself..

vesaversa

January 27th, 2012
8:46 am

I say the Falcons should clean house .

Wes

January 27th, 2012
9:28 am

Well Jeff, you got 3 out of 5, and you show a lack of perspective on Ray Edwards. First off, Peria Jerry is one of the easiest calls on the team. He should NOT be on the roster next year. What franchise finds success waiting on NFL athletes to get better? Bad 1st season? Ok..sure. Bad 3rd season…Come On Man! I’d forgive players we acquired last year bc of the lockout, but this is professional football. Why put money in a perennial defensive backup? On that note, Kroy Biermann is a reality tv “star”[sic] not a football player…NEXT!
Ovie Mughelli is a necessity for the Falcons run game. (GaTech alumn) I love the fact that we have Mike Cox, but the truth remains that Michael Turner had 4 100 yard games during the 7 games Ovie played, and 2 in the 9 he did not.
Sure, we paid Edwards to get sacks, but compare that 30 mil dollar contract to the 72 million Charles Johnson cost. Even if Edwards doesn’t pan out as a superstar next year, he still isn’t a bust. We pay him $5 mil a year and he plays every down. Given the fact that he had to learn a new D scheme in a few weeks which included rushing from both sides of the line (which he did not do in Minn), I’ll give him a pass for 2012. I would have awarded the same grace to Julio and Quizz, but clearly they are fast learners. (Btw, Quizz was born to return kickoffs/punts, sorry Weems, I’m gonna miss you)

Rod Paradise

January 27th, 2012
11:44 am

Agreed I think it was fortunate we had Mike Cox. I know he is not Ovie but he did a decent job. Keep Ovie. Agree most with “Sick and tired” I believe that most of the guys are going to benefit greatly with the new schemes and coaches. Also I like the idea of getting a rookie backup for Ryan(maybe the OSU rook). He needs to be put on his toes, big contract or not he needs to up his performance level. Dunta needs to be moved to free saftey. Ray Edwards health was suspect this year, but if next year he is not producing he needs to go. His ineffectiveness also lead to the opppostions O-Line being able to key in on John Abraham. Thus, making Abraham ineffective. I would work on utilitzing Snelling and Quizz more for sure, and less Turner up the middle. I beleive Snelling was the most under utilized player we have. That dude is awesome because he plays to win, and you can see it in his play. The biggest thing for the Falcons is improve their line both offensive and defensive. Looks what happened when you start getting to Drew Brees. Those guys are not invincible. That is what the D needs is the ability to pressure the QB, and get away from that crappy prevent D scheme. Other things to take note of with the Superbowl is look how much protection the O-lines provide Brady and Manning. That is what MR2 is going to need to win.

Arx

January 27th, 2012
5:31 pm

Damned fine article w/polls! But you know, I think the issue goes deeper. The Falcs are floating deadwood elsewhere and one could be old Roddy White who might have led this team to the SB by merely catching just half of his drops over the last two seasons.

There’s plenty of firewood to be found…

ebutcher2

January 27th, 2012
5:47 pm

Mr. Blank,

The offensive/defensive line is like the foundation of a house. If they are not solid you’ll eventually have problems. Prioritize building 1st class line play and coaching on both sides of the ball and the rest will follow. Use the remaining draft picks for 2012 on linemen. When evaluating players look for long arms, big hands, big butts and speed, speed, speed!

jason

January 27th, 2012
7:32 pm

D.Robinson is the worst corner in nfl history CUT HIM.

J-Lo

January 28th, 2012
12:26 am

Schultz: I was convinced by all of your arguments, and way to go with the Travolta idea!

Gold_Wing4

January 28th, 2012
2:46 am

dunta robinson was never a shut down corner? dude, why write something like that when you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about? apparently this guy never saw him before the injury in houston. he was a straight balla before that injury…

Wis-Kid

January 28th, 2012
8:25 am

Sam baker will be cut. Don’t look for Abraham to be signed and FA will be a bigger part of Falcons offseason. Draft picks;
2nd-23rd pick
3rd-22nd pick
5th-22nd pick
6th-23rd pick
7th-22nd pick
Look for more of the Draft picks to cover O-line, Trades may yield another #1 pick for 2013.Draft

Wis-Kid

January 28th, 2012
8:53 am

With Abraham’s age and the limited amount of snaps he took this season (13%), He could be welcomed back if he took a lower salary, but I don’t think he will. Look for the Falcons to shake things up, and welcome to the team Cortland Finnegan DB to be part of the steady nickle defense.

Wis-Kid

January 28th, 2012
9:02 am

@boby Lofton is one to keep.He played at pro-bowl level this season. I am not sure of who you were watching, maybe you should upgrade you broadcast service or something, but Lofton lead the team in tackles two years straight.

Wis-Kid

January 28th, 2012
9:09 am

You can be rest assured, Grimes isn’t going anywhere. Trust yo Boi!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robinit

January 28th, 2012
11:57 am

Can’t cut the best full-back in the league. He can catch, but he hasn’t gotten many opportunities

Robinit

January 28th, 2012
11:59 am

The middle linebacker SHOULD lead the team in tackles ALWAYS! That being said, I love him. My favorite tackle of his was against Marcedes lewis this year. That is a big guy to take down as hard as he did.

Eric

January 28th, 2012
12:20 pm

I love Grimes but I think he is gone. I think he wants out of here. He protected himself by not playing in the Giants playoff game.

Eric

January 28th, 2012
12:25 pm

we need a back with some wiggle in the hips and Mattr Freeze Up has to step up and play BIG IN BIG GAMES. I am at the end of my my rope with Matt!!! If he does not come up big next year I am turning in my my 4 season tickets.

FalconsFan23

January 28th, 2012
12:26 pm

I think we should keep Ovie, Dunta, Edwards, Abraham, and Grimes without a doubt maybe Peria Jerry but I think we get rid of baker and sign someone like Carl nicks and I think we can’t afford to lose Michael turner or roddy white but get rid of Snelling and get someone like cortland finnegan in coverage and maybe draft a corner and guard or tackle maybe another receiver in case Harry Douglas leaves

Eric

January 28th, 2012
12:30 pm

I still can’t believe that the FALCONS show up for a playoff game and scores 2 points. Am I by myself on this issue? 2 points are you kidding me!!!!

Eric

January 28th, 2012
12:36 pm

i like Harry Douglas!!! He looks like a new england type of reciever.

Eric

January 28th, 2012
12:43 pm

FALCONS FANS RISE UP!!!! NO

FALCONS FRONT OFFICE WISE UP!!! YES

Matt "CHOKE" Ryan

January 28th, 2012
3:02 pm

It’s amazing that Peyton Manning a future hall of famer, is held accountable, but CHOKE who hasn’t done jack, is still protected by the AJC and it’s LOSER fans.

There is no wonder this franchise will always be LOSERVILLE.

HA HA HA :)

Matt "CHOKE" Ryan

January 28th, 2012
3:04 pm

CHOKE is not worth a bag of fertilizer

HA HA HA :)

Joey

January 28th, 2012
3:37 pm

Maybe you will “CHOKE” on something soon. And maybe Falcons fans will get to watch, then do a Marine/dead Taliban on you . . .

FL dawg

January 28th, 2012
4:19 pm

They better damn sure keep Mughelli and Turner if their gonna keep Ryan. C’mon man Ryan”s arm is weaker than Tebow’s on certain passes. The Falcons are, like most teams, able to do what their players can do. Ryan is a smart guy, I quess, but his arm strenghth sucks. Therefore ATL has to run, and play action/screen pass. Skinny post to Roddy’s their bread ans butter and Ryan/White do it well. Did MR impress anybody sides the Falcons at rookie combine?

Matt "CHOKE" Ryan

January 28th, 2012
9:25 pm

Dolphins picked a lineman over CHOKE.

Enough said.

HA HA HA :)

alex

January 28th, 2012
9:47 pm

keep sam jackson, build a stadium in east point and get the famu band for half time, bring marta right to the stadium and serve cognac at the games..there you have it “keep it classy atlanta…”

Tom G

January 29th, 2012
3:12 pm

No more skill guys until you fix OL and DL(pass rushers)!!! Bring Harvey Dahl back from Rams, we need his attitude on the field. He plays until whistle blows and sometimes after it blows, but he seems to take no crap from anybody while on the field.

Nerehere

January 29th, 2012
10:05 pm

Pro Bowl is a joke. Sissy pass rush, no tackling the quarterback? I mean, why even televise this NFL vacation? Yeah, I know-your family is there watching, not wanting you guys to get scratched or hit. Yada yada yada. What a waste of television time.

Nerehere

January 29th, 2012
10:10 pm

Very interesting television show on CNN @ 8pm. Dr. Sonjay talks to coaches at different levels about football concussions. In addition, their are several football articles about former NFL players who have this lawsuit going on with the NFL regarding the concussions. No wonder what we seeing now in NFL games are lots of whistles and attention paid to guys leveling each other with hits to the head.

LawDawg

January 30th, 2012
11:47 am

I voted yes on Mughelli before reading that he stands to make $3,733,335. That is unbelievable.

Barbara Person

January 30th, 2012
2:14 pm

If you keep trading veterans and getting new replacements, there will be NO adhesiveness to the team. Our biggest block to this last season is the NL lockout, no otas, no coach/team practice, no getting used to each other until about the ninth or tenth game. You need to have additions to what talent we already have, not trade for bigger and better and they become a BUST!!! Give it one more year with what you got plus help in the secondary. J. Rogers should be able to compliment Michael Turner and Ray Edwards should be able to compliment John Abraham. Need another one of those in the secondary. Need to use Brent Grimes and Weems more. Need complimentary help not subtractions.

aj

January 30th, 2012
3:47 pm

Ugh. Sam Baker is officially the sacrificial goat. The herd mentality is an ugly thing,Indeed.None of those players had a damned thing to do with the fact that the play calling is atrocious and our playoff opponents knew exactly what we were going to do.This time next year Mike Smith will be gone and we will be stating the obvious:He is a personable guy who will not step on Arthur Blank’s shiny well shod toes,a ‘player’s coach’ who is imminently likeable.

aj

January 30th, 2012
3:54 pm

maybe he can trim his toenails or groom his greyhounds or whatever after they can his a**,win us a Super bowl,Nope.

W.R.Terrell

January 30th, 2012
6:26 pm

Jerry was not a mistake, move him to Defensive end, he’s quick and bull strong and I believe he can adapt. There’s no need to pay a backup as much as Baker will be paid, either he shows something in training camp or hit the door to another team. Ovie can run the ball if given the chance, don’t give up on him. Dunta may simply need another defensive scheme.

Brent grimes may run for the money but if loyalty means anything then he should remain a Falcon and big play Ray is not a mistake, not by a longshot. Takes a moment to come back from an injury. He’s signed and can be a good asset.