LSU-Alabama BCS title game is another win for SEC

First for the first time !

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And a huge loss for college football in general. I have yet to talk to anyone who is excited about this game.

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Haven’t seen anything from the bowl games that will stop the SEC train. As long as the coaching staffs in other conferences continue to field defenses that would embarrass the French Army, the trend will continue.

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The first game was the game of the century. Call this one the over signing bowl!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703384204575509901468451306.html

Bama over signs!

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Check out the atmosphere Monday night and report back if nobody is excited.

The game will be sold out, will have lukewarm TV ratings, and hardly anyone will talk about it next week. Nobody cares about the rematch of the century. Even SEC fans don’t care because they have already won.

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I LIKE YOUR STYLE JEFF- I’M TRYING TO IGNORE THE FALCONS GAME TOO!!!!

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@GTBob

Speak for yourself..Of course you dont care about the game like most of us didnt care about the Sun bowl.”Envy is the ulcer of the soul”

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There are two types of conversations I really hate participating in.

One begins, “In theory” and the other ends with, “You know what I’m saying?”

Both send me into mentally sorting my sock drawer mode.

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Dawg48….whatever it is you’re upset about, please get over it. Whatever Bama is doing, if it’s legal it’s legal…..tell UGA to do the same if this is making you so upset. Just admit that your team is not where you want them to be and move on. I can assure anyone who reads this, if UGA was in Bama’s place, you would not be writing this response.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah GTBob. Tell your defensive coordinator that he definitely should be watching the game.

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Sportzfan

Just pointing out facts!

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Just think, the FIFTH best team in the SEC (UGA) took the Big 10 co champ MSU to 3 overtimes and only lost because of a head case kicker. The rest of college football has mountains to climb before they can even compete

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Leave it to a GT moron complaining about the Championship game – a game that only GT can sniff at.

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A few appropriate comments:

1. Four different SEC teams have won the last six BCS championships.

2. UGA was not one of those teams.

3. During that period, UGA did not win the SEC championship.

4. Red panties.

In other words, UGA has sunk into total irrelevancy both regionally and nationally.

So why is UGA paying Mark Richt millions of dollars a year?

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GT Bob- why is it a “sell out” with tickets fetching the highest price in the history of Stub Hub for a BCS Bowl Game? Clearly people are excited about watching it and spending their hard earned money to attend the game in person.

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Pulpwud Smiff- Keep smoking the good stuff pal!! You must live in California or Colorado where it’s legal!!

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Stinger2 – see Milton Man comments. Go check the SEC BCS appearances and record before you spew your ACC garbage here. Loser conference with washed up coaches and third tier teams.

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UGA had scheduled to play Alabama next season but replaced them with Missouri. Not the way to make a reputation as a football power house. Wish the Birds could trade Mattie Mice with Tim Tebow. At least the game would be exciting.

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@Gaupper

There is no doubt there is extensive excitement in the SouthEast about the game, but I have to agree with GT about the general overall interest in the game. On a national level, I’m betting the TV rating will be dismal.

I’m a Clemson fan, and I can admit that the SEC has been the strongest conference in recent history, but I am fundamentally against giving a team a chance at a national championship that didn’t win their conference let alone their division. I really think Boise should have been given a shot. They beat a SEC division champ and only lost one game due to a missed field goal. This game really taints the 6 game streak when no other conference is even given an opportunity..

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USC or Texas can compete and get equal talent. FSU can come close but their coach can’t coach. That’s about it. Maybe an Oregon or Okla from time to time. Last year was a fluke though with Cam.

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It’s a given that the SEC wins either way in this game. The only way they would have come out better, at the tune of about 18m, would be if Georgia had beat LSU, and LSU was still matched against Alabama for the National Championship. I still think that when Alabama beats LSU because they will be 1-1 niether will be champion over the other.

Much has been said on how people would fix the BCS so I want to add my two cents worth.

1. Start by setting a 12 team limit for each conf.
2. Split all conf. and play a championship game
3. Teams are ranked according to how they finished going into the next season and rankings change as they play games
4. Add a plus 1 game
5. The 4 BCS games are played by the top 8 ranked teams
(a)1 vs 3 (b)2 vs 4 (c)5 vs 7 (d)6 vs 8
6. The winners of 1 vs 3, & 2 vs 4 play for the national championship.
7. The rest of the bowls are matched with Conf Champions and Conf
Runner ups.

If this system was in place this year the matchups would be LSU/OK ST, Alabama/Standford, Oregon/Bosie ST, and AR/KS St.

It pains me to say it but after what LSU did to Georgia; ROLL TIDE!!!

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It’s in New Orleans and LSU is in the game. The other team is Alabama, who has one of the biggest fan bases in College Football. If this was a spring game it would sell out

Couldn’t have said it better. It’s basically a home game for both teams. It’s like usc playing oregon at the rose bowl but even closer. Of course it would sell out.

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I just think it’s a shame that Alabama gets to play. It’s not fair!

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Wow the refs are screwing the broncos.Why is that not reviewable. That is pure bs

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People will watch the game…if for no other reason than to be able to blog about bad plays, poor coaching decisions, how the teams are overrated, and to make themselves feel better about themselves by denigrating others’ success…you know, people like GTbob…anything negative that comes out of the game will be like a sweet 16 bday for him and those like him.

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The truth behind Georgia kids that attend the University of Alabama…

http://onlyina.blogspot.com/2012/01/its-not-ugas-fault-youre-idiot.html

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Of course you will, GTBob. That’s what you do.

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1) Plenty of people are excited about the game. It is going to be a much better game than all those stupid NC games where the Big Ten or Pac Ten got a free ride.

2) UGA continues to embarass the SEC in bowl games? Really? Have you looked at the Dawgs record lately. They are 11-4 in their last 15 bowl games.

Please stop pulling stuff out of your backside on these boards. You Tech fans and SEC haters are just bitter little morons. Making up stuff to suit your cause is lame and pathetic. Then again, so is GaTech football.

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I’m not speaking for myself. I have talked to plenty of people about the game

Yeah, but they were all ACC Fans. I remember when the ACC talked Miami and VT into joining their conference. Everyone thought that with those two teams the ACC would dominate for years to come. Boy, were WE wrong!!!

Miami didn’t even make the bowl series this year, GT & VT lost again, and Clemson was HUMILIATED. One bright spot though, FSU beat a badly coached inferior team. I guess that’s something to brag about.

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SEC has a loser tomorrow!

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Highest priced tickets in the history of Stub Hub.

Yeah, no one cares about this game.

LSU and Alabama fans certainly care about the game. They are pretty much the only ones though. Luckily they aren’t the smartest fans around so the scalpers can easily drive up higher prices.

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LSU-BAMA game tells me the BCS system is a fair system which is not swayed by lots of opinionated opposition to LSU-BAMA rematch.

The coaches and voters believe LSU-BAMA are the two best teams, and voted that way despite strong anti-rematch sentiment by other conferences’ fans.

If Stanford or Okie State is in this game, it would be an automatic win for LSU, and as a result LSU wouldn’t earn their title. BAMA as the 2nd best will make sure LSU honestly earn their title if LSU wins, not given to them as a status quo.

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Boobie Bowden

1-11

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Alphare

We already know LSU is better than bamma, we don’t know if okie st is.

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How ’bout Georgia next year? Are we gonna be in that hunt, to help the SEC add to its total?? Oh yeah, right. I’m in fantasyland again!! But we may get Top 10 in women’s swimming! What a joke Georgia has become…oh, since maybe 1980?!!!!! SAD!

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Please all you D@$% A$$ know it alls don’t watch the NC game and see how much anyone cares. Only a techmite would brag about being a DA. This is the system we have so any real collage football fan will be watchong even if slippery rock played Georgia tech(NOT). As always GO DOGS & GATA

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I don’t think there’s many people that deny LSU and Bama are the two best teams.

I don’t think anyone knows for sure. All the experts said Clemson was better then West Virginia. What has Bama done this year that is so impressive?

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Georgia is 1-13 against ranked opponents, since beginning of ‘06 season! So of course, let’s talk contract extentions! We can beat Georgia Southern….just not any ranked teams! Oh…and yeah, we lost to Central Florida.

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LSU = SEC champ
LSU beat West Virginia the Big east champ.
LSU beat Oregon the Pac12 champ
LSU beat Alabama already.
If the ” coaches and voters” new what they were doing Oklahoma would be playing in the game because they were preseason #1.

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Im not sure there is a such thing as an ACC fan. The SEC is the only conference where fans pretend to care about the other teams in the conference

Don’t know what you mean by that^^. But this is Southern Football — the only people in the country more rabid about football than Southern fans are the people who are from Texas.

My point: We’re like family, we can call each other names; but if you try it you’ll get the beat down. Sorry. It’s just the way it is.

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Hines ward owns TEBOW!

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I haven’t met anyone yet who isn’t intrigued by the game and planning to watch. SEC fans here shouldn’t miss it.

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The Tech receiver just dropped the ball on that big 3rd down!

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Moved a John Deere tractor to the farm and did some Bush hogging in the rain.
No FACE MASK fo the 1st Down against then Steelers? TEBOW should have a new set of downs.

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5150

Your always hogging the bush!

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Wow that was close!

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DAWG with the Deflection of a pass to a DAWG

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anybody watching this steeler vs. broncos game? ths is turning out to be a great game. i thought that the steelers would eat the broncos up and spit them out but ..

dang champ bailey (UGA) just made a great play. this might go into over time.

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FREE FOOTBALL.

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Block and return if they try

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OT baby’

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Look two bay bay’s on the Denver bench sitting next to each other 88 & 15

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Tebow T-Bow, TEE Bow. Tee BO

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They held LSU to 9 points. Nobody else has done that

They held the #73 offense in the country to 9 points. I’m really impressed.All Bama had to do to get to the MNC game was beat Arkansas and not lose too bad to LSU. What an impressive resume.

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It’s hot out here and the duck hunting stinks.

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Dawg48, you still want to bash Bay Bay?

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Crow tast like crap!

Lol

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I am as big a Dawg fan as anybody, but don’t tell me Tebow can’t play. All these critics of his you can kiss his grits!

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OK 48 you sell that CRAZY if it makes you feel good. LOL

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The go daddy.com bowl up next!

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I must be getting a contact High form Crowell cause i think i just saw TEBOW throw a TD pass the Bay Bay Thomas

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I am as big a Dawg fan as anybody, but don’t tell me Tebow can’t play.

I actually like Tebow but he probably won’t be an NFL QB for long.

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It also means the your Tech team was beaten by the 4th or 5th best team in the SEC.And rather soundly.At home!!

We also lost to Utah and Virginia. In other words, we were pretty horrible this year.

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48 what is a go daddy bowl? is that what the other SEC Defensive Coordinators call their game against BOBO and UGA?
NO that is the We are your DADDY Bowl. red panty. com.

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ARdawg do you want to bet on that? Do you want to say RICHT and BOBO will be the UGA coaches to go to that BCS game?

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I was talking about the QB – Tebow who went to Fla. an SEC team.

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UOAD
I said UGA will be in a BSC game before Tech. Your strawman is noted

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The SEC has pretty much dominated the competition this bowl season. Even when the opposing teams are able to match our athletes, they never quite match the toughness which comes from SEC play. The exception is Georgia. They continually embarrass the league, not for lack of talent but from fearful, conservative coaching and the absence of grit.

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Yes, Alabama and LSU have good defense, but with the exception of Arkansas and maybe UGA, there are not many decent offenses in the SEC.

I would like to see Alabama or LSU go against wide open offenses like are in conferences west of them. I mean, Alabama gave up more points/yards to a team NOT IN THE SEC than they basically did to the rest of their schedule.

Here’s the kicker, that team was not even and FBS team, but an FCS team…

Just sayin’, it is a crime that they put bama in the Championship game because they played LSU the closest….. there were other teams that outplayed LSU, but just lost the turnover battles, part of the game, but again – just sayin.

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Okie ST Pokie

Agreed. I think your boys got punked in favor of the ESPN poster child

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Yes, another Win for the SEC, but…another Loss also.

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RICK JAMES I will stop POUNDING on UGa when the UGa coeds stop getting drunk and get pounded on by DUMB REDNECKs at UGa.

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48 sorry I missed it.

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ARdwag it is BOTH. I learned it at The Fake Drunk Blonde White Girls Gollege and Plantation of Georgia.

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Arkansas St vs norther Illinois

I’m going with NI in this one

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?48 what dIv game is that?

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Okie State Cowboy,

LSU did play 2 teams of Big12 style: UGA and Arkansas, throwing the all ball all over the place, but once QB is wacked a bit, get out scored by opponents’ defense.

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Ark st , the future home of mike dyer.

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Okie State Cowboy ………………………Go back to your hole. You lost to a 6-7 team in IOWA STATE. LOL

How does losing out on BARRY SANDERS JR FEEL ?

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Hawk

Bama already lost to LSU!

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Defenses win championships.

Auburn proved last year that this isn’t true.

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How is that Basketball team doing along with your pathetic football team ?

We are struggling. We gave Duke a good game though. We are recruiting well though so there is hope for next year.

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Hawk

How are sloppy seconds? Saban at LSU owned bama.
Miles at LSU owns bama!
Bama is getting LSU’s sloppy seconds!

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As long as MILES nad SABAN are still in the SEC………………………………..SEC will always be in the BCS Championship I believe.

CNR and UGA can only have this MOTTO……………………………KEEP HOPE ALIVE.

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PUPPIES……………………………………….GT has even won a Football Championship in the nineties and UGA is 31 years and counting.

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To all those who thought BAMA doesn’t belong,

hate to break to you, BCS is a 2-team playoff system, where 2 best are chosen for the marbles. LSU is best team and BAMA is the 2nd best team.

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Alabama the state that buys NC’s……….

Auburn bout one so I guess the tide has to one up em!

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Read it and weep. LSU and BAMA will not be down for a very long time.

The Alabama Crimson Tide’s 2012 recruiting class was one of the nation’s best heading into Thursday night but the addition of two of the country’s top high school prospects may have sealed the deal for Alabama to land the top recruiting class in the nation for 2012.

With the commitments of athlete Cyrus Jones and safety Landon Collins during Thursday night’s Under Armour All-American Game, Alabama moved to the No. 1 spot in the team recruiting rankings for three major recruiting services – Rivals, ESPN, and 247Sports. With the Tide’s top competition in the rankings, Texas and Florida State, largely finished with recruiting, the Tide’s spot atop the rankings seems relatively secure.

The commitment of five-star Collins was particularly key to moving the Tide ahead of Texas and Florida State. BamaOnline’s Tim Watts called Collins’ commitment the biggest recruiting victory of the Nick Saban era at Alabama.

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Okie State Cowboy, your team gave 38 points and 590 yards of offense to a Stanford team with wide receivers who can’t run as fast as the average SEC linebacker. Stanford had 243 yards rushing and was 27-31 passing for 347 yards. And you’re pretending OK State would be competitive against LSU? Be thankful your team lost to Iowa State and spared itself the beatdown.

Tomorrow night will be big boy football with plenty of future NFL stars on both defenses, not the flag football you’ve been watching in the Big 12.

Take up your complaints with the Big 12 commissioner and the Big 12 ADs who opposed a plus one playoff. The SEC commissioner voted for it.

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“Auburn bout one”, another Dawg education on display.

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BAMA lost to a team that went undefeated and OKIE DOKIE STATE lost to a has been team.

BAMA………………………………NO. 1 RECRUITING CLASS FOR 2012. RICH GET RICHER

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ACC……………………………..KING OF THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL.

ACC……………………………………………….All…………………….Cissy…………………………….Conference

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GT Bob, how much coffee does it take to sit through one of those Thursday night ESPN games against Maryland in front of a crowd of 35,000?

Less then a game with zero offense. The godaddy.com bowl has already been more exciting then the LSU – Bama game.

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GTBOB…………………………..You are right in some regard in that BAMA is a household name, but there is no way that BMA would have been playing in this game if they had lost to GEORGIA SOUTHERN.

You need to study up a little more.

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Everyone I talk to is excited about the game so just get over it.

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GTBob, you should recall from the recent past when your team was humiliated by LSU 40-3 that great defenses tend to slow down good offenses. LSU and Alabama have both put up plenty of points on everybody else they’ve played this year and if either of them played an ACC team they’d put up 50.

So if you don’t like defense does that mean you have no respect for Bobby Dodd? He was the coach back when Tech football was relevant and I think he was a pretty defensive minded guy.

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He was the coach back when Tech football was relevant and I think he was a pretty defensive minded guy.

I have no problem with defense as long as some offense is played as well.

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GTBob: They held the #73 offense in the country to 9 points. I’m really impressed

Bob maybe you don’t know that much about football, but when LSU played Oregon (first game of their season), Oregon was ranked #1 and had the #1 Offense in the country. LSU beat them 40-20. They also beat another high powe offensive team, West Va.; and then another one, Arkansas, and they beat them by outscoring them and keeping them from scoring, (that’s called offense and defense).

So you may sneer at LSU 9 points when they played Alabama, but it just proves that you don’t know what the heck you’re talking about.

I guess watching Clemson get manhandled in the Orange Bowl by WVU must’ve unhinged you a little bit. I understand.

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GT Bob, you’re either disingenuous or an idiot, or perhaps both.

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All SEC teams should be happy that 2 teams from the SEC are playing because the earnings are split amongst all SEC teams.

Every SEC team benefits.

Alabama and LSU receive about $5m, the other bowl eligible schools receive $4.3m, and the bowl ineligible schools receive $3.3m.

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Oregon was ranked #1 and had the #1 Offense in the country

Wow, I missed this gem. No Oregon was not #1 and you will have to explain to me how a team can be the #1 Offense in the country without playing a game.

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Dawg48,

yes, the first game means nothing, just like Packers lost to Falcons in the regular season last year.

BCS is a 2-team playoff system, what do you not understand?

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GT Bob, wow already 5 pages of comments, seems popular to me. Oh and as far as GA being the runner up in the SEC , they may be the 4th or 5th best. LSU, Alabama, Arkansas and perhaps SC are better. LSU or Alabama will be 1-2 and Arkansas will be either 4 or 5. That’s only because they didnt get a BCS bowl against OK St or Oregon/Stanford. Maybe GT can beg to come back to the SEC, and will let you fight it out for the lower third of the conference.

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GT Bob, wow already 5 pages of comments, seems popular to me.

Yeah, thanks to me. I really need to start asking for a salary from the AJC.

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Maybe GT can beg to come back to the SEC

Why in the world would GT want to be back in the SEC?

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GT could not compete in the SEC. Lower tier in basketball and football in the :

ALL……………………………………CISSY……………………………CONFERENCE

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That sure was a WHALE of a hire you got for the basketball team. Talking about someone that was not even a household name.

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BTW,

Tebow as a QB is a whole lot more successful than Matt Ryan.

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That sure was a WHALE of a hire you got for the basketball team. Talking about someone that was not even a household name.

Outside of Coach K is any coach in America a household name? Actually, im not even sure Coach K is. You overestimate the popularity of college basketball.

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Finished your sentence for you, don’t thank me. I like to help the foresaken and the needy.

That is part of it, but really what benefit would there be for GT to go to the SEC? I really can’t think of one. I think that is why the SEC couldn’t get any ACC teams when they were trying to find a 14th team. They had to settle with Missouri.

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They couldn’t get a 14th team from the ACC mainly because the ACC didn’t want to get beaten up every weekend. FSU may make a comeback — I really don’t see either them or Miami being down for long; and VT should consider a better OC if they want to stay in the chase.

As for benefit, try garnering your team MILLIONS in TV deals and bowl appearances. The only benefit for the SEC to grab an ACC team would be for the SEC to grab Duke; and that’s because Duke is a basketball powerhouse and also makes their conference MILLIONS in TV deals and Sweet 16 appearances.

Oh and this is for you:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1010128-college-football-conference-rankings-for-2012

Conference Rankings for 2012.

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They couldn’t get a 14th team from the ACC mainly because the ACC didn’t want to get beaten up every weekend.

Yeah right. ACC teams are scared so they didn’t move. Give me a break. Your millions of dollars argument is useless too. College athletics are a drop in the bucket for most schools financially. Getting a few million more from ESPN would barely matter.

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Uhhh Missouri would kick most of the ACC in football and probably basketball too

I agree, but Missouri isn’t exactly a big name, has never won a Big 12 championship, and openly admitted that they preferred the Big 10. Congrats on that great get.

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The 10 SEC practice teams should be congratulated on getting the two title contenders ready. Mark Richt and others should be proud of running a top-notch practice team program.

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Calvin Johnson and now Damarius Thomas. Is Tech becoming the resource for NFL receivers ?

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Any goober would know that the SEC would prefer Clemson over A and M and Missouri. Thats obvious.

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Alphare, I’m not of the belief that Alabama is one of those two, nor are a lot of other fans. After watching the Stanford – OK State game, all I wished for was that Ok State had gotten the nod instead of Bama. The computers had this one right.
The system is broken, period, and this game proves it. All the conferences have split into divisions so that they can send a conference champ to a BCS game. If you dilute the conference championship to put a non-conference winner against a conference winner in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, especially when they didn’t even win their division, then you are feeding us crap and it shows.

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Colleges ALWAYS need money.

Not enough to throw away the values of the school and put themselves in a bad situation.

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ylojkt,

“especially when they didn’t even win their division”.

That’s because the 2 best teams happen to be in the same division. Actually with the old rule allowing tie game, they would be co-champ of West.

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ylojkt, the two best teams in the country are playing for the title tomorrow. Okie St has no defense whatsoever. LSU or Bama would destroy those guys.

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For TECH, moving back to the SEC is like moving from the penthouse to the outhouse.

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Preston. Tex Am and Missou may add 10 additional TV watchers next year. There is no market for these teams except perhaps some fans in Houston.

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ylojkt,

BTW, I don’t believe OSU is a conference champ this year with 10 teams in Big12. So that would disqualify them plus Notre Dame.

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If you don’t think the state of TX isn’t a very lucrative TV market for the SEC, then you need to go back to school and get yourself an education. Missouri will be pretty darn good too with the St. Louis and KC markets. The TV money is what everyone is after and the SEC is branching out.

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GT Bob……The ACC teams really have nothing to offer the SEC…..There are a couple of issues there….1st, the TV market is’nt there, hense the reason they went to Texas for that market with A&M and the St. Louis/ Chicago market with Missouri…..It’s all about money and we all know this….TV is the driving force…..2nd, Clemson and FSU, both of which are SEC type schools, have always wanted to join the SEC and still would if asked but the flagship universities, SC and Fla, in those states won’t allow it…POLITICS!…….right or wrong, money and politics drives football these days…..jus sayin theres more to it than the ACC schools standing pat…

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Preston & Alphare, they had their chance and lost, so why do they get a rematch? If the BCS had a playoff format and this was the end result, I wouldn’t mind as much and would have also watched the games that put them in the rematch as well as the rematch with interest. This way has left me pretty indifferent about the game. I’m a football fan and when this was announced, it was the last thing I wanted to see. I’ve watched almost all the bowl games and seen a lot of great ones and a lot of teams really jacked up and playing outstanding ball, this includes Ok St, whose heart and talent could be a challenge for LSU and finished .009% in the final BCS rankings behind Bama. Both Ok St and LSU play hard, high scoring football on offense and special teams and would be a fun matchup for the country to watch, way better than the most boring game of the last ten years being replayed.

BTW – as sad side result of watching all these games has been seeing which teams think they are better than the other team, so they sit on the ball with a lead and hand the trophy away because the thought was only true while they tried hard. Both teams losses were from coaching, and that is what makes it rough being a fan of Tech or Ga right now.

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Ok St did win their conference, I watched them destroy Ok.

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SEC is the richest conference out there. Go and ask MIZZOU: GTBob…………..You still do not have a clue.

You really think Missouri left the Big 12 because of the SEC money? They left because the conference was realigning every year and they were never one of the top teams in an uneven money alignment. Luckily they found a conference who wanted them.

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Wreckmaniac ……………………….The 2 richest conferences are in this order:

2. BIG 12

This isn’t true at all. The Big 10 dwarfs both of them.

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There are a lot of hogs feeding at the football trough.

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SEC has 5 of the top 10 revenue producing schools. 8 of the top 15.

2. BAMA

3. UGA

5. LSU

6. FLORIDA

7 AUBARN

24. Va Tech

25. CLEMSON

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If you do this BAMA and SEC fan will be pulling for you.

So regardless of who makes the MNC game as long as they are from the SEC you will root for them? This is why the SEC has no real rivalries and why the rest of the country laughs at them.

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so, what else is new. The SEC is the only conference in the country that plays real football!

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What’s funny is the idiots who cry about a rematch usually support a play-off system, which inherently means more rematches than would ever happen in the BCS system. Play-offs would also include wild-card teams which didn’t win their conference. Any system should have the objective of matching the two best teams period, otherwise it’s a flawed system. Those who would play god and dole out favors to any team they know full well isn’t one of the two best teams are superficial fans at best and corrupt at worst.

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SecFan, rematches in playoffs are fine because teams actually have to prove they are better then other teams. Rematches when games are decided by popular vote are just stupid.

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SecFan,

It’s a real paradox. Everybody wants a playoff because of the unfairness they perceive in the current system. Yet, almost all of the current playoff systems allow teams in that really don’t deserve to be in. I’m talking about wildcard teams and teams in lousy divisions who may win with a weak or even losing record (as did Seattle). Baseball used to have a pure system where only the two best teams, one from each league got to play and then they opened it up with expansion. One of the best (worst?) examples of what is wrong with a diluted playoff system is when a team like the NY Giants of a few years ago got in as a wildcard and ended up beating the only 19 game winner in NFL history, New England. It’s great that they won it on the field in the playoffs but by any reasonable standard, they didn’t deserve to be there in the first place. As I recall, they had lost to the Patriots at the end of the season. Talk about unfair rematches.

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GTBob,

Doing a little projecting on others I see. “SEC has no real rivalries and why the rest of the country laughs at them.” What you really mean is that the ACC has no real rivalries and the rest of the country laughs at them. Anybody laughing at the SEC would simply be a fool or insanely jealous.

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Anybody laughing at the SEC would simply be a fool or insanely jealous.

Every time your fan base barks or makes signs saying Go Dwags people are laughing. Every time you root for your supposed bitter rivals they laugh even more. The SEC is a great football conference but it is also the conference of oversigning, player arrests, and low brow fans.

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Tennessee won their BCS title in 1998-99. Since then LSU and Florida have won two BCS titles each and Alabama and Auburn have one BCS title each. Georgia has nothing but BCS futility while its head coach claims it is scratching on the door of “greatness.” Many say its a door of mediocrity. Forget about it. Florida went 6-6 this past season, but it’s a proud 6-6 with losses to ‘Bama and LSU. UF can sell recruits it played a tough schedule, while UGA with its lame scheduling can only hope to keep avoiding ‘Bama, LSU and Arkansas in order to salvage Richt’s job. Tell you what, the recruits are really watching UGA’s offense closely. I predict no big time running back out there will be interested in coming to Georgia if the same things on the field happen that happened to Crowell and Samuels happens to Keith Marshall in 2012. From the looks of it Marshall’s frame at 5′-11″,190 lbs, is slightly smaller than Crowell at 5-11, 215 lbs. From the looks of it Marshall is a speed back and he has to avoid as many collisions as possible to stay healthy and effective. If Bobo decides to send Marshall repeatedly up the middle as he has with 5-6, 165 lb, Carlton Thomas it’s only a matter of time before Marshall gets hurt as Crowell, Samuels, and Thomas did behind UGA’s patchwork offensive line. This is why it is very important to have a good OC that can assemble a good O-line and try to preserve the health of his RBs with sensible playcalling. But Richt/Bobo are not the coaches you want to play for anyway if you are a RB aspiring to reach the next level to go pro. As a Dawg the truth hurts, but Davis would be better off at So.Carolina and Gurley would be better off at UNC than to come to UGA only to watch Richt play his favorite at RB until he gets hurt or flunks out or gets kicked out the program. No decent RB in his right mind should want to take the physical beating Crowell took behind a poorly coached offensive line orchestrated by the Richt/Bobo mindtrust. It is absurd for Richt to have Bobo keep running tiny Carlton Thomas up the middle giving up on offense and keeping CTG’s tired defense on the field to win a game the offense has clearly given away. Once we are rid of the incompetency and 90s FSU pass-first mindset, Georgia can find a good HC who will find the right kind of OC go back to its roots and become Tailback U again before it’s too late. You have to be able run the ball to win in the SEC or defeat top ten teams and everybody knows Richt can’t put together and execute a reliable running game at UGA.

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If it wasn’t for Georgia blowing their game and Vandy’s close one it would of been a sweep for the SEC well except for the BCS Championship but I don’t think head to head SEC matchup for the title can be counted as a loss. Go SEC, even our new Texas A&M & Missouri teams won their bowls. Eat your heart out ACC.

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And the dogs played neither LSU or Alabama AND lost to the Big 10. Can’t make that up, eh dogs?

SEC! SEC! SEC!

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Thanks E.S.P.N. for this rigged match up so you can increase your t.v. ratings while you broadcast the game.

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Pathetic GT Bob, no wonder all the engineering jobs are going to India. Yeah, great ratings in the Orange Bowl for the ACC champ losers, seriously, 70 to 33? I have a hunch you watched with ALL the 3 people you know–ESPN’s Orange Bowl gets lowest BCS rating ever. Stick to engineering and basketball, (h)oops, Bama 74, GA Tech 49 last week. Ummm, engineering solo is your best bet, GT got out of the SEC for a reason…

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Its REALLY not that hard to get a degree from GT, just read the multiple comments on this post from GT Bob. He REALLY thinks that his education (or lack of) is superior to us rednecks. I hope he doesn’t watch this game, his ignorance would be an insult to the TV ratings. Just remember true sport fans, insecure GT Bob was always picked last in gym class.

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“The SEC is a great football conference but it is also the conference of oversigning, player arrests, and low brow fans.”

GTBob,
How many current ACC schools are on probation? Don’t spout your holier than thou crap. The ACC tries as hard as they can (within the rules or not) to be like the SEC. The shame of it all is that even cheating to try and cacth up, they can’t beat ANYONE in a BCS bowl. Got 70 hung on them by a 23rd ranked WVU team. What a joke.

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“So the irony is it will take two conference schools playing each other for the first time for it to suffer its first loss.”
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Jeff Schultz, sir,

The SEC has now played in 8 BCS National Championship Games and Won ALL 8.

Sir.

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Jeff, the real “irony” is that the UGA AD announces that Mark Richt gets a new contract and raise BEFORE Miles and Saban gets theirs.

Would that be irony, or insanity?

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It’s a complete JOKE! Two very good football factories, coming from a league of football factories… It’s all about money, period… ESPN and any journalistic jock that thinks this has anything to do with the two best teams are delusional.

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This will be the SEC’s first loss in the NC game in six years.

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There is no playoff system that prohibits rematches or bars teams that don’t win their conference. Why is this? Because the intent of the designers is to match up the two best teams for a championship and the undeniable, common sense fact is that sometimes there can be two worthy teams in the same division. Yet some are saying that just because college football has a voting system, this fact should ignored. Are you kidding me? This argument is so goofy you have to conclude that the different system argument against a rematch is just a smokescreen to cover biases.

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For Sale – Six autographed Crimson Tide Helmets dating back
10 years, all autographed by their respective head coaches;
Mike DuBose, Dennis Franchione, Mike Price, Mike Shula,
Joe Kines, and Satan.
Also, Six autographed UGA helmet dated back 10 years,
all autographed by their respective head coaches:
Mark Richt.
Call BR-549

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Sorry Schultz, but the SEC is a big loser here. For the first time in 6 years, the SEC doesn’t get to prove how dominant it is against the best that college football has to offer.

I don’t expect to hear the “S-E-C” chants at the game this time. There’s no point.

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DawgDad,

“Not pitting LSU against another Conference Champion is a lost opportunity for the NCAA, the BCS, the SEC, and College Football in general. Sad, very sad”

Why pitting LSU against another conference champ? Why?

So you don’t care about the best teams playing for NC, sorry, Big12 has 10 teams this season and they are not supposed to have a conference champ. Notre Dame is independent so they cannot be a champ of any conference.

SEC CG picks the 5th best SEC team UGA against the best team LSU, you know what happened? the 5th best team was murdered by the best team.

If you don’t want the best teams to play for NC, you can live in our own little world, because most people want the best teams.

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Nobody outside Alabama really wants this game and rooting for a conference is a losers mentality. Yay, South Carolina beat Nebraska! “SEC SEC”, well, that win with UGA’s loss pretty much locked up recruit Chaz Elder signing with USCe rather than UGA.

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Have Vegas give lines on LSU vs. anyone and BAMA vs. anyone and the closest spread is LSU vs. BAMA by a large margin. I bet it is double digit favorite for both LSU and BAMA against all others.
Vegas knows best

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Vegas knows best

Vegas favored Clemson by 3 over West Virginia.

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The only advantage for the SEC here is a gauranteed Champ and a larger pay out of bowl money for the SEC.

The payout for the SEC would be the same if Alabama was in a different BCS bowl.

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GTBob, both LSU and Bama (SEC) will get the same payout, which is more than if either were playing in lesser bowls.

An ignorant nerd is one who doesn’t know what you have just found out.

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GTBob, both LSU and Bama (SEC) will get the same payout, which is more than if either were playing in lesser bowls.

An ignorant nerd is one who doesn’t know what you have just found out.

The SEC will get the full payout for one of the teams and a smaller payout for the 2nd team. It works exactly the same as if Bama was in a different BCS bowl. The Big 10, ACC, and Pac 12 will actually get the same payout. LSU and Bama might get slightly higher payouts from the SEC for travel expenses.

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If Bama Wins you will never convince me we have a true National Champion. They will have the same record, each 1-1 head to head and LSU had to play one extra game in the SEC Title game that Oh By The Way Alabama didn’t qualify to play in. WHAT A JOKE THE BCS is……..Anyway, I hope LSU Steam Rolls the Tide because they deserve to be Champions…They have the best resume

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You just wonder how long Bama and LSU can keep this up now that over-signing is now illegal. Supposedly, they won’t be able to cut players and have their benches filled with 5 star recruits waiting for their turns. And don’t forget that their academic standards are at the bare minimum, unlike UGA, Florida and Vandy who don’t sign a slew of prop 48s. But these super-teams should start to fade away soon enough as the playing field levels out.

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Bob,

a 4-team or 8-team or 16- team playoff will be also based on voters’ opinions. What’s your point? I agree 4-team is more inclusive. But that’s what I got now, which is better than the one we got before BCS which was purely opinion based.

Can you tell us about your great playoff idea, and see if we can poke a hole in it?

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Vegas does not set a point spread based on what they think the outcome will be. They have one goal, and one goal only. Guarantee that the bookmaker makes a profit. They want half the money on team A and half the money on team B, so part of the formula forr setting the line is the publics perception.

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Bowl games do make lots of money for many colleges, which in turn support lots scholarships of other sports programs.

What’s so bad about it?

I like plus-1. So what kind of playoff do you want specifically?

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Bowl games do make lots of money for many colleges, which in turn support lots scholarships of other sports programs.

Playoffs would more then likely generate more revenue then bowl games which would contribute even more in scholarship money. The only reason to keep bowl games is tradition and the massive amount of money the bowls themselves make. The BCS cartel and the owners of the bowl games will never let a playoff happen because of their own financial interests.

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Bob,

16 team playoff means the champ has to play 4 extra games, a total of 17 games (12regular, 1conferenceChamp+4playoff). 1 more than NFL regular season. Don’t you think injuries become a big issue.

Also, colleges need bowl game money to support athletic programs. I feel your 16-team playoff system will dilute their earning and thus affect the survival of other college sports.

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For the SEC WEST – get it right, Jeff

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It’s hillarious to listen to these Jawja fans talking smack about Bama. Bottom line Dawg fans: Richt has taken you to ZERO BCS title games. Don’t give me all this junk about ‘we deserved to be there in 2007.’ You either are there or you are not. You had a shot to do something decent in 2008 and were blown away in Athens by Bama. Richt hasn’t taken you to a title game and won’t with the juggernauts of Bama and LSU in the West. And now Saban is taking your recruits from Georgia to construct another #1 ranked class. How sweet it is!

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“The six straight titles will have been won by four schools (LSU, Alabama, Florida, Auburn) ”

Notice that UGA is not involved in that run.

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WHile I completely agree that the SEC is the best, top to bottom, I am compeltely against this rematch. Yes, Bama and LSU are the best two teams in the country but teams get screwed every year and sh** happens. They had their chance.

What if Bama wins???? Do they share it??? Considering the season series would be tied I can’t imagine that Bama could be crowned the outright champion. Not to mention, I’ve read where if this game is a repeat of the 1st one only with Bama coming out on top that LSU could still be named champion because they won on Bama’s home field.

It’s ridiculous. Saban: Well Kentucky and Duke could have a rematch in basketball and noone would care. The Giants and Pats rematched in the Super Bowl and it was ok. YEAH, THE DIFFERENCE IS THOSE TEAMS GOT THEIR OR WOULD GET THERE VIA A PLAYOFF SYSTEM YOU POMPUS A**!!!!

How Tom Rinaldi doesn’t bring that up i’ll never know…

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I wish we had a playoff but I do think the 2 best teams are playing….I like the 9-6 football games as long as the reason is good defense and not bad offense…In this case it is

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Bob,

16-team playoff bring more money? are you sure?

16-team playoff means a total of 15 games.

Bowl games double that number and involve fans of 60+ colleges and all regions of the country.

I don’t think you are fully utilizing your Tech education in this case.

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Alphare, obviously it would take some logistical work, but you could play the first round of playoffs the weekend of the Championship games (assuming you axe one creampuff game from the schedule). Championship games would be last weekend in November and the first-round would be first week of December.

To make it work beautifully, you would need an eight-team playoff. How you get these eight is another argument. The first four games will be home games. After the first round, you have four teams remaining. Set-up your bowl games just like normal at this point except for these four teams. Eliminate one of the four BCS locations. For example, let’s say the Fiesta Bowl is no longer a BCS bowl. You would have the Sugar, Rose, and Orange Bowl as the final three game locations. Each of these bowls would get the NC game once every three years and the other two bowls would hold the semi-finals. Do you know how much money would be made in this system?

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I’m excited about the game but not the format, and I won’t be until there is a 16-team play-off format – just like the other divisions in the NCAA!!!!

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Boy, the techies love read and discuss articles about the SEC. I guess they don’t want to discuss one of the acc’s finest getting 70 points dropped on it . . .

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Both the Missouri and Texas A&M programs will be strengthened by joining the SEC. They will begin to siphon off recruits from OK and Texas because those athletes will have the opportunity of playing for the top conference in the country. It’s going to make a big difference for them. As it stands now, LSU owns east Texas. In the future, even more of those prized players will be headed to SEC schools.

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Bob,

I am not convinced about more money. My biggest issue is to keep the long-lasting traditions, and the champ don’t have to play too many games while others are bystanders.

I believe one of the reasons college football is so popular is no playoff. It gets everybody involved in an argument as to who is the best. Playoff may shut up lots of fans and fans of less talented teams eventually lose interest. Tech can be a good example of it.

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Whether a 16 team playoff or the 32 bowls generate more money is hard to quantify not knowing how much TV money the playoff system would generate. It is the case, however, that many of hte teams playing in the bowls, at least the minor ones, do not make money after taking into account the expenses of travel, band, administrators, etc. Virtually, all of the major conferences have some sort of revenue sharing of bowl revenue so the perverse situation exists that teams from those conferences that do not go to bowls may actually better off financially. As someone has noted before, the bowls are an entrenched fact of college football that the University Presidents like, so it is hard to see a playoff system developing much beyond what we have now.

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GT Bob, were those the ratings numbers or share?

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Maybe the kid from UGA can make the field goal in the halftime contest. Might be the only scoring on the field tonight.

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alphare

LSU 9
Bama 6

They already proved it on the field. Along with beating Oregon, West Virginia and winning the SECCG.

A month has gone by. They have proven themselves on the field and should not have to basically start over to play 1 game to prove they are the best. They have already done it over a 13 game schedule

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@GTBob

Fact about the Sugar Bowl being down is that there was an ACC team playing and not an SEC playing. The ACC was not deserving of playing in 2 BCS Bowls. However, VT would have been a better match up than ClemPson in the Orange.
My point is that veiwers accross the nation will tune into a major bowl with an SEC team much more than an ACC team. Most perceive the ACC as a basketball conference only!

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I agree with DawginLex. LSU has already beaten Bama in Tuscaloosa. It will be a shame if LSU loses a close one and Bama is crowned the champs. Unfortunatley, the BCS was designed to match up the 2 best teams and I think they got it right in that case. Most of us will never be truly satisfied until there is a play-off.

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silly bloggers

Yes absolutely because there would have been no layoff as teams would have been playing in the weeks leading up to the game.

This is no playoff

This is a beauty contest, the eyeball test.

Would butler have made the NCAA title game 2 years in a row under the eyeball test system?

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Just saying, if college football GROWS UP and actually get a playoff system. This will show the best of the best and 2nd tier teams, i.e. georgia can’t hide behind their conferences.

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The SEC is the class of college football. 5-2 in Bowl games (not counting tonight). ACC 2-6, Big Ten 4-6, Pac-12 2-5, Big 12 6-2 (2 of those wins by future SEC teams)

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Most? Try everyone outside the ACC.

No, most inside the ACC feel this way also. Why do you think we added Pitt and Syracuse?

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Fact about the Sugar Bowl being down is that there was an ACC team playing and not an SEC playing.

It has dropped the past three years. The Sugar Bowl is now the meaningless bowl. With the SEC getting a team in the championship every year its usually a 2nd best SEC team vs some terrible team.

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Does this mean if Bama wins, there will be a 3rd game as a tie breaker?

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A playoff system will come when there is more money to made than there is now. Period. Nothing to do with tradition, perception of fairness, or any other criteria. Money is what drives the process.

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How many roofers will be fired in Alabama Tuesday for failing to show up for work?

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Mike, the anti-rematch argument was nonsensical even before the bowl games were set, and yet with the benefit of seeing how Oklahoma St and Iowa St played in their bowls you’re still pushing that exposed logic? Unbelievable. Did you not see Stanford push OSU and its 107th ranked defense all over the field only to lose on a missed FG? Did you not see how LSU seal-clubbed Georgia in the second half of the SEC game? Knowing that, you would still put OSU’s defense in against LSU? In the interest of seeing a competitive game, I’m glad real football guys were there to make the correct decision instead of fans such as yourself who either have only a superficial knowledge of the game or are just plain biased.

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My hope

LSU 24
Bama 10

Reality is 14-10 either way

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An Inconvenient Truth

US News Ranking
GT: 36
UGA: 62

Endowment Size
GT: $1.5 BILLION
UGA: $600 million

Avg. Starting Salary
GT: $59,000
UGA: $44,000

Football
GT: 4 National Titles (1990) Calvin Johnson, Demaryious Thomas
UGA: 2 National Titles (1980) John Kasey, Kevin Butler

Basketball
GT: 2 Final Fours, Chris Bosh, Derrick Favors, Thaddeus Young, Jarrett Jack
UGA: 1 Final Four.

Baseball
GT: Mark Teixeira, Nomar Garciaparra, Kevin Brown, Matt Weiters
UGA: Gordon Beachem.

Golf
GT: Matt Kuchar, Stewart Cink, David Duval, Bryce Molder
UGA: Bubba Watzon.

GT is a GLOBAL brand. UGA is a regional brand.

Wal Mart CEO = GT grad
Wal Mart Checkout person = UGA fan

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LSU 16
Bama 13

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Ted=KAT from falcons blog

Douchebag loser

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“Split title if Bama wins?”

That just shows your ignorance about BCS. BCS champ is the winner of the BCS Champ Game. It is determined by the game result, not some voters’ opinions like the AP Champ.

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@GTBob,

“Man up and score a touchdown” ???????????

You wish the ACC could play defense like that.

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You wish the ACC could play defense like that.

I could care less about the ACC. I would like for GT to play defense like that though.

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GTBob don’t watch the damn game then, jesus is turning off your TV that difficult? I would figure a GT fan could figure that out.

I’m not watching the game.

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I watch all the bowl games each year. I have since they began on TV. I watched all the bowl games this year except the two on Saturday and Sunday of this weekend. I will not watch the game between LSU and Alabama because it means nothing. The SEC was weak this year, and I do not care to watch a game to determine the winner of the SEC.

The winner of this games is not the National Champion because they are afraid to play the winners of the other leagues as they might not win the NC. Oklahoma State would have beaten Alabama and maybe LSU.

The Old Man

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Pulling for LSU, but I predict Bama 21 to 17.

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Kudos to the SEC! SEC! for competing tonight for the NFL Minor League Championship. Too bad the SEC LEast Champion lost to the Big 10.

Also curious, what does Chippy due between now and spring practice? Does he go into a hole in WIn With’s back yard and Win With’s throws nuts and berrys his way from time to time?

Just askin’?

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The ship has already sailed on the rematch debate. But the bowl games showed which side was right. Those who wanted Oklahoma St in the game were exposed as silly know-nothings. In their bowl game, instead of going in and making a statement OSU spent the last few seconds of regulation on their knees praying that Stanford would miss a FG. Not impressive. Pretenders all year, they were incapable of tackling anyone. Their 107th ranked defense gave up an average of 33 first downs and 200 rushing yards a game. There has never been a team with such a pathetic defense to make it to a national championship game, much less ever win one, yet this is what the no-rematch weenies would have given us. Thankfully the true football guys voted for the two best teams and we’ll see a competitive game tonight.

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[...] back to the BCS. It’s LSU vs. Alabama. Please, no more whining. It SHOULD be LSU vs. Alabama. These aren’t just the two best teams in the SEC, they’re the two best teams in the [...]

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BCS system was installed because people were tired of the poll that determined the champ.

Now, some people like the old system of opinion polls. Speaking of reforming the BCS? how can you with people like that?

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To Silly Bloggers and other ignorant posters. It makes zero difference who won or lost their bowl games. The decision to play for the BCS is based on the games prior to the bowl games. As I proved conclusively in my post regarding the scores and information prior to the bowl games, there is no doubt that Oklahoma State should be playing LSU in the BCS.

Silly Bloggers posted comments about who LSU beat during the season, and it has zero to do with Alabama’s schedule against their cupcake opponents. Silly Bloggers, you are ignore the facts presented to you and, evidently, not capable of seeing the obvious.

It should have been LSU and Oklahoma State in the BCS. Alabama was not capable of even winning its division of the SEC. They don’t deserve to win the BCS if they can’t win their division title. Even if they were to beat LSU, they are still not the division or SEC champions. They are second rate in their division. I am sure every team in America who lost to their competitor in a close game would like another chance to beat them in the same year.

Silly Bloggers is so ignorant of the status he posted that Oregon, and other teams would have been in the BCS if they had won certain games. Yes, and the same goes for Alabama. If they had beaten LSU, they would have deserved the chance in the BCS. They did not and do not deserve to be in the game. They are a second rate team to the Division Champion in their own league.

Alabama and LSU need to play a best two out of three games to see which one can actually win their division.

The Old Man

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ahsoisee,

OSU played the same number of games as Alabama. They both have a 11-1 record.

1. While Alabama’s single loss is to the nation’s #1 team LSU, OSU lost to a 6-6 team.

2. While no teams except LSU were even close to beat Alabama, OSU almost lost to TA&M and K-State.

3. OSU gave up 25points or more to 7 teams, while Alabama gave up 25points to no team and beat 9 teams with 30points or more.

Yes, Alabama is better than OSU, by a big margin.

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[...] was Alabama late Monday in New Orleans, extending the SEC’s streak of national championships. It’s like a conga line that just keeps growing: Florida-LSU-Florida-Alabama-Auburn-Alabama. [...]

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