Braves’ reportedly offered Jurrjens, Prado for Orioles’ Jones

Jair Jurrjens had a 1.87 ERA in the first half last season before injuries. (Hyosub Shin/AJC)

Braves pitcher Jair Jurrjens had a 1.87 ERA in the first half last year before injuries ended his season again. (Hyosub Shin/AJC)

(UPDATED: 2 p.m.)

The Braves have made it clear — by their lack of denial, as well as logic and circumstances — that they are open to trading pitcher Jair Jurrjens and outfielder-infielder Martin Prado. But are/were they really willing to trade both . . . for one player?

According to the Baltimore Sun, the Braves offered Jurrjens, Prado and a prospect to the Orioles for center fielder Adam Jones, but Baltimore declined the proposal.

Jones is good — a .280 hitter

Adam Jones batted .280 with 25 homers last season for Baltimore.

Adam Jones batted .280 with 25 homers last season for Baltimore.

and Gold Glove winner who is still young (26) and not yet making outrageous money ($3.25 million last season). He also hit a career-high 25 homers last season. But the reported offer of both a front-line pitcher and a versatile starting position player — plus a prospect — seems like a lot.

For what it’s worth, the Braves don’t comment on trade rumors. (I’ve emailed general manager Frank Wren but he hasn’t responded, nor would I expect him to.)

UPDATE (2 p.m.): Wren emailed me back, but only to reaffirm that he doesn’t comment on rumors.

If the report of this rejected offer is true, it shows how much both players — Jurrjens in particular — have fallen in the Braves’ eyes. Jurrjens has had injury issues (primarily knee) in the last two seasons. He was one of the best pitchers in baseball last year and played in the All-Star Game. He was 12-3 with a 1.87 earned run average in the first half (16 starts), but only 1-3 with a 5.88 ERA thereafter (seven starts).

Prado was arguably the Braves’ best player in 2010 when they reached the postseason as a wild card. But he dropped off last season and also had injury issues.

Both players are up for raises in arbitration, which is a reason the Braves have made them available in trade. Still, dealing both for Jones seems like a lot.

Agree or disagree?

By Jeff Schultz

453 comments Add your comment

Ernest

December 21st, 2011
12:47 pm

You’ve got to do the things to help improve your ballclub. I wonder what this means for a possible Bourn extension?

Jason in Houston

December 21st, 2011
12:48 pm

yeahsure

December 21st, 2011
12:49 pm

dont like this at all.

NO

December 21st, 2011
12:50 pm

Ron

December 21st, 2011
12:50 pm

offer is to much to give up for .260 hitter making 3 million

Paula

December 21st, 2011
12:51 pm

There goes Jeff again – reporting unsubstantiated rumor as fact. So, Jeff, you didn’t want to wait for a response from Wren before writing your babble?

Dumb

December 21st, 2011
12:51 pm

This is dumb. Why don’t we just keep Prado in LF and GIVE them Jurrjens. It would be a better deal.

ByteMe

December 21st, 2011
12:52 pm

My guess is that the Sun is reporting a rumor as fact. Doesn’t sound like something Wren would do, get half the value back in a trade and no extra cash or anything. I’m guessing the story is wrong.

Finkle is Einhorn

December 21st, 2011
12:52 pm

What a dumb trade for the Braves. We should get much more for them. What about Bourn? This just seems like a salary dump rather than a smart baseball move.

jddawg

December 21st, 2011
12:53 pm

terrible move. i have never seen a .280 hitter that i said “man, we gotta have him!!” The Braves need some consistent power and we may be trading two provens for .280? I didn’t see all of his stats so he better be bringing 40 homers plus. It’s all about the money – which I ain’t got any of. Must be why they don’t call me about this stuff before doing it.

Biff Pocoroba Fan Club

December 21st, 2011
12:53 pm

Agree. Jones is a good every day player but not a superstar all world beater. With Prado, you also have someone who can play 3rd, should Chipper retire / get injured.

You can’t have too many good starting pitchers. A big reason for the Braves collapse last year was all the injuries to the starters. Unfortunately Lowe was not one of the starters who got injured.

Sammy

December 21st, 2011
12:54 pm

This sure would help the club. Fill a big VOID in the outfield. Not sure who would move to left, Bourn or Jones.

AtlantaNative62

December 21st, 2011
12:55 pm

I find this potential trade rumor dubious at best. Unless Wren has lost his mind (I have questioned that many times), this is just a rumor.

cantondawg

December 21st, 2011
12:55 pm

Jeff,

What is the date that Liberty Media can sell the Braves. I’d love to see Arthur Blank buy the Braves this time around. He’s the best owner that Atlanta has had..

AtlSean

December 21st, 2011
12:56 pm

I don’t know about this one. Two good “potential” players for one respectable outfielder. I know that Prado and JJ had injuries last, and I think Prado will be fine, I do question the longevity of JJ. Are we that confident that our pitching staff can stand to lose JJ – I mean Hanson was ailing most of last season and Hudson had back surgery and we traded Lowe away (who was a workhorse- just not a great pitcher). How long will we get Jones for? I say if we get him for 2+ years then ok, if not then don’t trade away good talent for a rental player.

PMC

December 21st, 2011
12:56 pm

Love Adam Jones but it’s too much to give up to only get him back.

Stinky

December 21st, 2011
12:57 pm

Sometimes the best trades are the ones you do not make. This is the case here.

Tom G

December 21st, 2011
12:57 pm

Jeff Keppinger is a free agent who can play both SS and 2nd, lifetime .285 hitter, hardly ever strikesout,and would probably only cost around 3 miilion. What do you guys think?? Former Parkview HS and UGA star, also could help fan base like Brian McCann does!

Felix Milan

December 21st, 2011
12:57 pm

Could the commissioner stop the trade? That trade is asinine. If the Braves do not get an All-Star caliber player(s) for each of the Braves stated, Wren should be fired!

DC

December 21st, 2011
12:57 pm

This would be one of the dumbest moves of all time..in the history of all baseball…for the month of December 2011..

The American Dream

December 21st, 2011
12:57 pm

I like Jones’ taint.

Wish they would get rid of.......

December 21st, 2011
12:58 pm

I wish they would get rid of a bunch more of the do nothing pathetic lazy Braves including Mr. Sissy I can’t play because I am hurt Jason ZERO Heyward. Get some guys in with fire and spirit – while they are at it – see if they can trade Fredi Gonzalez for a bag of balls and some rosin bags – nobody would waste a good bat on him.

Chipper is a dog's name

December 21st, 2011
12:58 pm

Terrible trade offer

Bluestreak

December 21st, 2011
12:58 pm

Disagree that they have fallen in the eyes of the Braves. JJ is in an area of surplus for the Braves, and he is going to get big bucks in a couple of years. Why not trade him while he is desirable to others? Prado is good at a lot of things. But he isn’t much for power (not corner outfield power) and he won’t be playing his natural position with Uggs here.

According to the prospect, this would fill a need for the Braves with little detrimental affect to the team. I wouldn’t imagine AJ would be the fallback to Bourn if he were to leave, but an outfield of AJ, Bourn and Heyward would be a fast and strong defensive outfield.

I think the O’s are foolish for not taking this trade. It benefits them more than it does the Braves, while it fills a glaring need for both teams. They will never compete with the rest of their division if they continue to blindly hold on to Angelo’s favorite players, even when it would benefit the team more to trade them (see Nick Markakis)

Familyman

December 21st, 2011
12:59 pm

Absolutely agree, Martin Prado has been the Braves best player for the past two seasons with the exception of McCann, even considering the injuries. It is crystal clear that Wrens is no Schuerholz. I still say the Texeira trade was one of the all-time worst ever made.

Chipper is a dog's name

December 21st, 2011
1:00 pm

Pacman plays baseball?

PMC

December 21st, 2011
1:00 pm

It would take them from outfield of embarassment and shaky defense to a fun to watch excellent defensive outfield with alot more pop in one year.

old cowboy

December 21st, 2011
1:00 pm

I say pull the trigger.

Hankie Aron

December 21st, 2011
1:00 pm

Jeff- I think it’s too much for just Jones. I would think that the O’s would have to include a higher end OF prospect in the deal as well in case Bourn (Boras client) doesn’t resign,or maybe a backup shortstop (not J.J Hardy, keep dreaming Braves fans). If this offer is even true, the Braves are getting desperate for a power hitting outfielder, don’t you think?

Cedric

December 21st, 2011
1:01 pm

It is about time that we have worked to get a solid outfield and hopefully this deal will get done. Also it is time to let Heyward know that he is next if he has another poor first half of the season. However, we will need to find somebody to give Chipper some time off and to replace him in a year or two.

collegeballfan

December 21st, 2011
1:01 pm

Jurrjens and Prado for Jones is way to one sided. Now throw in a top minor league pitcher
and I might go for it.

J.J.M.

December 21st, 2011
1:01 pm

Tom G

December 21st, 2011
1:01 pm

The only player that Baltimore has that I would trade 2 players for is Nick Markasis(RF). Real good all-round player.

fred smith

December 21st, 2011
1:01 pm

It makes you wonder why both players have seemingly become so expendable in the Braves eyes. I can kind of see Jurrjens with the injury issues he has had over multiple seasons. Prado, however, was as you said the best player in 2010 and seemed to be the heir apparent at 3B when Chipper is done.

Danny O

December 21st, 2011
1:02 pm

Prado alone for Jones would be a bad move. And while Jurrjens has had some injury issues, he’s had stretches in his career during which he’s been simply brilliant. I think it would be foolish to move either player.

Chipper is a dog's name

December 21st, 2011
1:02 pm

I have a hard time believing this offer is actually on the table Wren is not that ignorant in fact has done very well so far imo

K Conway

December 21st, 2011
1:03 pm

Cut Chipper lose! Free up that BIG money!! If Murphy and Aaron had to go..let the part-time and over-paid Chipper go for the sake of the team!

Hmmm

December 21st, 2011
1:03 pm

Wish they would get rid of……. ,

Would you have dropped Chipper too? He’s been as dry and boring as any athlete we’ve ever seen and the team has done NOTHING since he assumed the role of so-called team leader.

El Bravo

December 21st, 2011
1:04 pm

Orioles management are a bunch of idiots If they rejected Prado and Jurjens for Jones… then again, it would explain why their team hasn’t won more than 70 games since 2005…

To Tom G

December 21st, 2011
1:04 pm

Tom, No one gives a rat’s @$$ Keppinger went to UGA. That is actually a strike against him as it tends to suggest that he is about as smart as a second grader. Don’t quit your day job, chump.

Hankie Aron

December 21st, 2011
1:04 pm

Familyman- John Schuerhotlz made the Texieira trade dude, not Wren

Scott

December 21st, 2011
1:07 pm

Apparently the O’s don’t think as highly of our boyz as you guys do… Thanks But No Thanks! Just because Prado had a good year doesn’t mean he is gold, remeber he used to be buried behind Kelly Johnson. Braves have generally done pretty good getting rid of players when they still have value.

NO, TOO

December 21st, 2011
1:08 pm

NO WAY!

Unless the Braves know something we don’t….

ZJ

December 21st, 2011
1:08 pm

Way to much! And they turn it down?? Dumb luck on our part, dumb move on the O’s.

DawgLink

December 21st, 2011
1:09 pm

MLBTradeRumors.com has the same proposed deal on their site. Too costly for the Braves in my opinion.

pete

December 21st, 2011
1:09 pm

That would be a great deal for the Braves, I would do it in a heartbeat. Prado is way overrated and Jair is injury prone and has Boras as an agent

steve

December 21st, 2011
1:10 pm

Unreal… sounds like another grissom and justice for Lofton and embree deal… This team is cooked. 4th place will be a blessing this season if this nonsense keeps up.

Datominator

December 21st, 2011
1:10 pm

This trade makes no sense, and I hope it is just the rumor mill feeding on itself. Adam Jones would be a good player – not great, and not worth both Prado and Jurrjens. His career .OPS is .756, for crying out loud. Prado has a career .OPS of .775 – this would be a hard sell to me even if was just Jones for Prado straight-up.

BravesFan79

December 21st, 2011
1:10 pm

DUMB!! Trade our Ace and super utility man for a guy hitting .280?? No way..

Matt G

December 21st, 2011
1:10 pm

Seems hard for me to believe that we made that offer. I mean if your the Orioles GM and you’ve got the chance to land 2 young All-Stars and a prospect for Jones I believe you jump on it. Personally I think we can afford to deal Jurrjens but Prado means more to us that just production #’s. His work ethic and leadership alone is worth keeping him here! Plus my 10 yr old who doesn’t understand “baseball is a business” would be devastated if Prado leaves….